Why do critics and fan opinions differ so greatly sometimes?

film critics are over 35 and don't play video games

Critics are an outdated concept.

Critics look at it objectively

Nintendo fans are toddlers so they are easily impressed by jingling keys

As a movie it's pretty average. It's gonna get a bump for the Pokemon branding.

Reminder same critics praised Endgame even though it has like 20 fucking movies to watch to even get why its happening etc.
But 1 movie about pokemon was enough for them to throw a bitchfit that they didn't know anything.

A better comparison would be the scores for Pokemon Let's Go and Explorers of Sky.

>why do pokemon fanboys eat everything pokemon up
Not sure

More than %20 is far from a traditional standard deviation.

pokemon had a black male protagonist with a white female partner, hollywood should've ate that shit up

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Wtf

Critics are pretentious faggots, everyone else just wants to be entertained for 2 hours.

critics are critical
fans are forgiving

Imagine unironically being a film "critic" and thinking you matter at all.
Film isn't art.

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For this movie actual literal boomers

Bright just showed me how retarded audiences are. It's not a good film

SJWs cant control nintendo

Because one is a critque by someone with a much larger pool of comparison which has its rating shoved into rotten tomatoes binary good/bad system and the the other is just joe smo literally saying good/bad from the start?

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god i fucking love the orville
if we don't get a season 3 i'll be pissed

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>=!
are you retarded?

Because they can't appreciate the details and don't know of them, this poster a lone made me want to see the movie.

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I'm genuinely curious what mongoloids like you think art means

someone post the Congresswoman one

does the movie even have anything to do with the games? like am i gonna hate if i see it if i've only played pokemon red or blue like 20 years ago?

How could you watch Venom and think "yeah, that was enjoyable" lol

it's an excellent movie

better than the actual current star trek series

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Because fans don't get paid to give their reviews.

Fans are almost always vapid sheep who like/dislike things because other people do. Just look at Yea Forums.

Venom is all style no substance, the problem is that it doesn’t really need substance anyway so it’s stupid to dock points for it specially when other capeshit is scoring way higher with just as much CGI funride

>it's an excellent movie
What about the movie makes you conclude that?

Something similar happened to that Superman vs Batman movie too

>critics point out it's shit
>normalfags don't care and just want to watch those 2 fight

Critics are bought by Disney so they can get more money out of avengers

>Marvel movie fans will eat any shit
We already know this, they're killing the cinema industry by supporting 5 superhero movies a year and nothing else

Because fans see inherent value in the movie's assets, before they even tackle the story, the comedy, the delivery, and everything else.
Detective Pikachu could have been a Pokerap of CGI Pokémon and it would still be liked

Wait i thought people said it sucked.

>does the movie even have anything to do with the games?
Yes.

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SAVE
MARTHA

Because different people feel different about things? 66% is pretty damn good for a fucking live action pokemon film

it's fun to watch, i'm not that big of a snob

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this

But Disney's Marvel wasn't responsible for Venom. Thats why Disney paid for bad reviews, because they want the rights to Spider-man back from Sony.

the film is not a retelling of the game’s plot tho

bright was also good
but yeah STD is literally an STD, it's just awful

What the fuck? This movie isn't that bad.

I checked and it's at 56% fan score now, which is more like it.

Critics dont like certain types of movies. Up until the dark knight trilogy.

Comedy, kids (Outside disney), and action are normally way under scored by critics.

I use to take audiance score more to heart, but since faggots have started review bombing based on political agenda I cant even trust those now.

Ghostbusters 2016 was a decently fine movie, same with Capital Marvel and Solo. Venom and Alita are just shitball movies that end up with great scores.

tl;dr reviews are fucking useless.

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the cope when Nintendo does it again and saves the Video game movie industry

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Looks like Pokekino is on the menu

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So you have nothing substantial to actually say about the meat of the film. You can't even explain why you liked it beyond "it's fun" and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "snob"? Okie dokie bro.

This movie was fucking terrible.

the movie sucked. critics cant disagree or will get bombasted with SJW shit
so audience are right in this one

It mostly is. Same main characters (though a couple got name changes), same overall plot, same locations and events, and an ending that ties up what the game left hanging yet clearly intended to do.

True and not true. There are plenty of reviewers to rate movies with their legacy or partnering media in mind.

It takes you now what Pokemon are and how the Pokemon world is supposed to work more or less. But that's about it.

>MCU burnout is real

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You lost me at Ghostbusters, take your (you) and fuck off with your attwhoring

yes, it's that simple

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THREE BILLION INCOMING
AVATAR CAN GO AND SUCK A DICK

>Nintendo

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Captain Marvel is easily one of the worst MCU movies, and it was boring, and the title character is utterly devoid of personality. Not to mention they tossed this in a month before Endgame and expect you to care about this nothing character who is overpowered alongside characters that have been built up for years across many films

Stop using terms without knowing what they mean

he meant !=

They deleted a bunch of fan scores so it's altered. The movie fucking sucked though it's definitely a 30-40% and not even worth watching when bored.

>it's fun to watch,
It was boring.

Dude, Endgame was the most successful MCU movie yet by far. Pokémon beat its third week grossing, which is normal. It's not a sign of burnout at all.

nintendo owns 60% of the Pokemon Company

Probably wouldn't be that low if Brie Larson wasn't a cunt.

normies hate bvs

>YOU MUST LIKE/HATE EXACTLY WHAT I LIKE/HATE!!!!!

Fuck off bandwagon faggot.

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Fans have autism. Critics don't.

Good little movie, but god damn the girl is a HORRIBLE actor, borderline cheesefest is what she was.

>Captain Marvel is easily one of the worst MCU movies
While I also find it mediocre, it's much better than this absolute tripe: rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_the_dark_world

Which somehow has an insanely high score.

To be fair Season 2 is a perfect 100%

>people actually think Captain Uncharimastic did well

>literal hero’s journey without a journey, starts off a stronk female character and ends it in the same tone
>you’re a snob for not liking it
hoo boi

Thats a dumb reason to score a movie low.

Why Detective Pikachu instead of an actual Pokemon movie? I want live action Ash.

The movie was made by Warner Brothers and Legacy, Nintendo had no involvement aside from lending the brand.

i was talking about Bright based retard

Not really, she's the main character afterall

Why? Ash fucking sucks

Can't believe the thread went any further than this.

It's also low because it was mediocre as shit.
only idiots on Yea Forums

One billion, incel.

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Even a doujin makes a better premise than that trash

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29% is way too high for movie with only 10 good minutes

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I gave DP a try since it's Pokémon and I like Pokémon and I regret it: It was boring & its comedy was tiresome
It's the only movie I saw in at least 5 years and I feel like I wasted my time.
I'll just stick to Vidya.

who are you quoting?
it’s ironic of you calling me out for expecting others to like what you do when it’s you who’s shitting on everyone for disagreeing, both critics and audience reviews
have another (you) for your hipocrisy and fuck off

So, who cares what the actress is like IRL in the review of the movie.

Tom Cruise is a huge bag of shit, but man can he act in some action movies.

Detective Pikachu is a test movie to see how the people will react to a realistic Pokemon film
If it does well, we'll probably see the Adventure of Red or something

Your mom fucking sucks. I know because she's sucking my dick right now.

>ghostbusters 2016 was a decently fine movie, same with Capital Marvel and Solo.
Lol

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why is every counterargument now seething?

Not all critics are fans so it's less likely as many will like it as a group of just fans.

It's not a hard concept to understand

oh no no no

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i'm married and you're not, kid, no dumbass actually thinks captain shit-attitude did well

idk but maybe critics analyze stuff like character development and spacing while your standard fan is just gonna be like omg I recognize dat thing!!! and not give a fuck if the movie has nonexistant structure. Like how fucking avengers is just an excuse for the movie to keep introducing 'i know that' moments by smashing all capeshit characters into one movie and the glove powers are excuse to do whatever special sfx they want in a fight and no real character development.

The best part of the movie was definitely seeing all the Pokemon they created for it.

Unless it comes to pushing progressive agendas. Then it's the opposite.

nintendoeverything.com/detective-pikachu-team-on-why-the-movie-shies-away-from-pokemon-battles/

>“Part of [The Pokémon Company’s] conceit for Detective Pikachu was to create a new region, Ryme City, that had a new set of rules. The Pokémon Company wanted to have the Pokémon not be in pokeballs. They wanted a region where humans and Pokémon had a different, elevated relationship where they co-existed. The Pokémon could be human beings’ familiars.”

TPC wanted the movie not to focus on trainers and battling so they went with Detective Pikachu.

>Ghostbusters 2016 was a decently fine movie, same with Capital Marvel and Solo. Venom and Alita are just shitball movies that end up with great scores.

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$800M

>Critics look at it objectively
>Marlel movie 5/5

Show me wear in my first comment that I shat on people hating the movies? I hate on people review bombing the movie based on political affiliation which is factually happing which has effected my use of audience reviews. If you didnt enjoy Ghostbusters 2016 that fucking fine.

It was an okay effort in that regard. A bit hit or miss but I liked some, like Torterra

>over 35
>don't play video games
They're the only ones who actually played videogames when they were goo and not just watch lets plays of Fornite

Is it good? Looked legitimately fun, even if the premise is bizarre.

I liked it up until the point they the big bad transfers his mind into Mewtwo.
So fucking stupid.

>No Pokeballs
>No trainers
>No battling
Why even make a Pokemon movie then?

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Because all Marvel movies are part of the MCU, that's like 22 movies and that's a good thing!

Worst MCU movies:
Thor: Dark World
Captain America
Age of Ultron
Captain Marvel
incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
Black Panther
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol II

Damn Marvel sucks lol.

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Oh no no no

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>jeez this fucking pokemon games are fucking shit rehashes, nintendo should start doing better pokemon games
>DUDE ITS NOT NINTENDOS FAULT ITS GAMEFREAK OKAY!?!

>wow that pokemon movie made by warner bros is doing good
>HAHA NINTENDO WON AGAIN

nintendodrone + tripfag, not even once

>Disney does not have the rights to Spider-man
What?

>Critics look at it objectively

Disney always makes sure to come in touch with them so they can see their movies much more objectively

Bright had such a great premise ruined by a shit plot

>So, who cares what the actress is like IRL
The tards who watch capeshit I guess.

They dont, Sony still owns them, but they let Marvel produce spiderman now because Sony cant make a good one.

oh they played *a* game
one reviewer whined that the movie didn't reference anything from pokemon go
other reviewers mentioned it was a pokemon go adaptation in their review somewhere

people are retards

Then I guess that's the best of both worlds since Sony can make good Spider-man video games.

Look Captain Marvel is bad. So it gets bad scores.
This is not difficult rocket science my guy.

63% critical response is pretty good for a Pokemon movie.

Guardians 2 is easily in the top 3 best MCU movies.

If you like Pokémon it's really good. I think you can still enjoy it otherwise, but it's a more standard fare.

Because there's merit in exploring a different side of the Pokémon world in side media. There's still plenty of great-looking action in the movie anyway.

Its almost like there's been twenty movies or so leading up to that point, what more character development is there to be had? Crossovers like that are entirely for the spectacle of seeing a bunch of characters get into big fights and there's literally nothing wrong with that, its entertainment, this is what it is for.

So is Detective Pikachu good, be honest

>Pokemon go adaptation
What the fuck is wrong with normies and their short memory spans? We're they living under a rock during pokemania?

I don't get it either, what is the point of Pokemon if they are not glorified pets?

>Ghostbusters 2016 was a decently fine movie, same with Capital Marvel and Solo.
Ghostbusters 2016 was crap, I'm sorry. It simply wasn't funny and completely missed what made the original two movies funny and enduring. Which is a shame because most the actors involved are talented and funny elsewhere, Kristen Wiig and Kate McKinnon in particular.

Solo was mediocre at best, Captain Marvel was meh but still better than Solo, still easily one of the weakest Marvel movies.

Venom was also mediocre at best, it was just kind of there and the plot just kind of abruptly ended up at your typical "bad guy is just like the hero, but more beterer and bad!" nonsense. I do genuinely want to see the sequel with Woody Harrelson, just because he's going to be Carnage. I don't expect it to be any good, though.

>Sony cant make a good one
They recently made the best one by far, it just happened to be an animated movie.

>Dark World
This is a shit movie with delicious Kat Dinning tits.
>Captian America
People hated this movie?
>Age of Ultron
It was Meh
>Captain Marvel
Even more Meh
>Hulk
Fuck you, it was a good movie
>Iron Man 2
Legit bad
>Iron Man 3
Legit Meh
>Black Panther
I disagree with this
>GotG II
I also disagree with this

>this movie that just came out beat a movie that came out over 2 weeks ago!
>in China

You mean Guardians 1.

Venom is genuinely entertaining especially if you watch it with friends

Also Sony can make good Spiderman animated movies.
But it wasnt bad it was more inoffensive and blah

so what if people review bomb shit? let them have it their way, if the film has stuff they don’t like they can voice it just like anyone else, if they are lying you can easily spot the inconsistencies in their criticism just like in critic reviews.
you’re shitting on them because you’ve deliberately chosen to post a pic that shows you perceive the audience to be entirely comprised of polfags, so fuck off being a dishonest little shit acting as if you aren’t antagonizing people who dislike your stuff

Every Marvel movie does not have high scores.

>because Sony cant make a good one
>implying the Raimi trilogy arent the greatest Spider-Man movies ever

What was wrong with Black Panther

HARD MODE: Don't complain about black people or other /pol/shit, actually articulate why you didn't like it.

A critic is there to nitpick and break things down.

A fan is happy if they're entertained for 90 minutes.

Black Panther had little relevance in his own movie and the third act was total shit

I went into Ghostbusters/Marvel/Solo with very low expectation because of the user reviews and came out no hating them. I went into Alita and Venom with high expectation because of reviews and came out fucking confused as shit why they were rated so well.

Its why the who thesis of my post was I can trust audience reviews anymore.

Watching with a brain vs without one sort of inherently does that.

it’s dumb fun for kids with the same old fun little journey culminating into a battle to save the world from a megalomaniac villain, being carried all the way through with flashy action scenes, references, kid-friendly jokes and cuteness

The plot? they had all this technology and refused to share it with their neighbors and eleve burdens.

Enrage the gatekeepers of the hivemind at your own peril. Russia and the budding neo hitler jugend movement have invested too much for your insolent and controversial opinion to be tolerated.

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wait, the game did involve R gaz, crazy guy that wanted to make pokeinstrumentalisation real, and shit? Man, I really need to check those spinoffs games

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>Watching with a brain
Wait, we're talking about current year movie critics, aren't we?

So it's like a good oldschool anime

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WE
WUZ
KANGZ

Black Panther is a retarded super hero. He's just ethnic Batman without any of the gothic undertones and cool villains.

Are you implying that current Sony Pictures is the same as early 00 Sony Pictures.

Can someone explain to me what was so bad about Dark World. I'm not even saying I loved it or anything but this is one of the MCU films that always catches shit when people talk about poor ones. What actually made it so bad to people?

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>that review where the woman took points out of Man of Steel because Marlon Brando wasn't in

>nintendo wins again while others fail
>N-NO STOP IT! N-NINTENDIES F-FUCK OFF! STOP!!!!
why cant you just accept your loss

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>Ghostbusters 2016 was a decently fine movie
Holy shit, just no. How do you even find a movie remaking a classic movie, but much worse, to be even remotely decent?

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Critics want to tell you what you "should" like.

It was a horrible plot, with bad dialog, and the worst of the worst of marvel villains. The only thing worth watching is Kat Dinnings Delicious tits and Loki.

CRITICS ==== SHILLS
STFU LOSER

So you mean whats the point of the games then? Because in the movie they are glorified pets, in the games they're just soulless battle robots.
Honestly the movie is the best direction for pokemon, but gamefreak doesnt care to figure out how to properly integrate pokemon into the world and environment and after all this time people are complacent, so they just remain as soulless tools for battle. Only the anime and now the movie actually uses the idea of pokemon to it's full potential. I guess the anime moreso since it has them as both pets/partners and battle tools.

Ghostbusters was just terrible. The humor and banter in the originals had a point and played off the character's personalities and had context. The humor in the 2016 movie is just dick jokes with no context, so much of it is "lol smart people doing dumb things XDDDD"

Its like the difference between classic Simpsons and its layered, clever humor and modern Family Guy's random cut-away jokes with zero context or relevance to the plot or characters, even if a few manage to be funny.

It was relatively forgettable. Not much happened until the end.

it’s a poor man’s Lion King with a shit excuse to justify isolating themselves in a bubble, the film begins with a premise that you can tell from the first 30 minutes how the rest will play out

>Thor: Dark World
>Age of Ultron
>Captain Marvel
>Incredible Hulk
>Iron Man 3
Legitimately bad

>Captain America
>Iron Man 2
>Black Panther
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol II
Just kind of meh, but not "bad"

But that's where they arrive at the end

So much soul condensed in one pic how come a fucking Pokemon related thing feels more Noire and Cyberpunk than fucking 77

Let's be real here, Pokemons remained restricted to pokeballs because of engine and budget limitations. They just did not want to create all visual and text content for every single pokemon to wander around the world.
Nowadays the budget limitation is still real and gamefreak is stupidly lazy, that's the only reason why you can't just have your pokemon follow you

dilate harder, old man.

>Venom
>mediocre
It was hot fucking garbage

The first time I watched GotG2 I slept twice during it and only caught the Yondu scenes, then watched it again on tv and felt I missed nothing

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>makes over a billion
>it did not do well
Sure thing, incel. Keep denying reality, it's all you can do in the end anyway.

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This, it does the Pokemon part very well but has the story very very "safe"

*bigthink*

There's a reason why they dumped all the human world cast and kept all the asgard people.

That science shit was boring. They redeemed themselves with the third movie by making it fun than gloomy.

The game also had R made from Mewtwo and the whole deal with Harry's crash and what happens to him and Pikachu, yes. However, the movie villain is original, in the game the villain really is his son who is just producing R to make money. Merging humans and Pokémon is something added to the movie to better justify what happens to Harry.

I won't argue with that, but I didn't hate it, it was just kind of there.

Besides Detective Pikachu, the only vidya movies I kinda liked where the Tomb Raider ones, you can't go wrong going Indiana Jones.

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>We're they living under a rock during pokemania?
They weren't alive duting that time.

I don't know what people hated so much. the real problem was the jarringly bad PS2 looking CGI, especially when MCU movies usually have pretty decent CGI. Killmonger was neat and the James Bond like scenes were fun. The whole last 30-40 mins were kind of a mess, again the PS2 CGI comes to mind.

being conveniently retarded in order to advance the plot is one of the laziest methods you can use to tell a story and this film uses it for the whole script

>R-REEEE INCEL
nigga i'm married and you're not
please stop projecting your insecurities because your flat-ass waifu will never notice you
only retards honestly think disney didn't inflate the numbers

>D-D-Disney bought their own tickets!

Just getting it out of the way now.

Jesus christ this. /thread

20% is usually about standard for a movie like this, if OP knew anything about differing critic and audience reviews look at Hook. That shit just baffles me and it's still considered a classic to this day

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except they did

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Because critics tend to look at movies through an objective standpoint. Of course this doesn;t always yield true, but for the most part, this is how (movie) critics review their craft.

Fans/general audience look at something from "if it appeals to me" It can be putrid garbage but if it has enough titties or explosions, they give it a thumbs up. just look at China and every Transformers movie between the first one and Bumblebee. Absolute garbage movies, but that didn't stop its International box office numbers to be very good.

How would that even work for a 1h30-2h movie? See how Pokémon origins turned out? Do you really want that? I swear Yea Forums doesn't know the first thing about how to create a product

Thor Ragnarok is easily one of the best movies in the franchise, quite the 180 they did with that one. It helped that the director is known for comedy more than anything, I hope they continue with that trend with Guardians 3 and anything else they do with Thor in the future.

Where is prince of persia?

I unironiclly liked it

This image proves you wrong

>Thor: Dark World
Yeah, bad.
>Captain America
Just "not there yet" but not necessary bad.
>Age of Ultron
I liked the movie as much as first Avengers, dunno why people are so hard on it.
>Captain Marvel
Didn't bother to watch.
>incredible Hulk
Yeah, bad, so bad it's not part of the MCU.
>Iron Man 2
Liked it more than the first movie actually.
>Iron Man 3
Liked the PTSD, didn't mind the twist, but at the end of the day I guess it's leaning towards the bad side of MCU.
>Black Panther
Overrated, but otherwise ok.
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol II
It was good.

As far as movies adapted from video games, Detective Pikachu is fantastic, it's main audience are children and manchildren who like Pokemon and it caters to those pretty great.
Obviously the plot and direction is nothing to write home about but it's all around fun and keeps a steady pace throughout.

But the only reason it's good is probably because it's pokemon and Ryan Reynolds does a fantastic job of marketing it.

Wasn't she seething that her part in Endgame is like 15 minutes?

Iron man 3 is kino

>nigga i'm married and you're not
>still denys reality and lives in his little incel dreamwolrd
Never stops being funny.

>m-m-muh disney bought tickets
And retarded on top of it. A truly winning combination.

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So they already made almost half of the cost in two days? Seems pretty good to me

>watching with a brain

>movie bad, I don't understand pokemon
>You've played pokemon GO right? Then you really don't need to watch this
>clearly just a cash grab
>Is this franchise still popular?
>only good if you're a fan of pokemon and know who bulbasaur, charizard and jigglypuff are. Otherwise boring

This is what the majority of the rotten reviews are like

Venom from an objective standpoint is not a good movie. I enjoyed it because Tom Hardy did a great job, but I would not call Venom a good movie.

Source?

It's because they experience the media differently. Movie critics have seen so many, know the one the staff's biographies, and won't be satisfied by anything but a deep emotional story, even if your regular viewer would enjoy a fun lite adventure. Game reviewers it's the exact opposite. They just want to get it over with before the deadline.

It’s retards like you who still don’t realize Pokémon is now separate from Nintendo.

because fans are not talentless hacks looking for clickbait bucks.

Critics are often sjw leftist losers looking to generate clicks so they create fake controversy.

>N-NO YOU'RE NOT MARRIED REEE STOP IT STOP IT
progressives really are heteronormative retards
it's not my fault you can't think critically for two seconds or stop insisting that everyone is some fat cishet crybaby
kill yourself homophobe

That's fucking sad, holy shit.

not good, but it was a fun movie

>Yeah, bad, so bad it's not part of the MCU.
It is, its canon. Its referenced in several other movies.

what was wrong with the first Captain America? Do you hate WW II and tommy lee jones?

You're legit retarded it you truly think that 1 fucking billion at the box office for a movie that had a 200 million budget isn't a massive success. But then again, incels aren't known to be able to think logically anyway.

Fans pay to experience the content

Critics want to be paid to convince people to pay for the content.

I will be absolutely upset if Thor isn't at least though the first half of the movie with the Guardians in GotGIII. Those final scenes where unironically the best part of Endgame.

Gen Xers and boomers are eternally butthurt about Pokémon.

>People liked Bright
This is why Jews rule the world.

not enough people of color (often being relegated to the background)

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Since we are talking about Marvel, is anyone else mad about how Ghost Rider does not get any love?
He is by far my favorite hero(es) and I could talk about why so for hours. Also probably the most powerful hero(es) in the Marvel universe. Yet he never gets anything cool. Is it the fire CGI price?

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>progressives really are heteronormative retards
And thus the incel gives himself away. Thanks for the laugh I guess.

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>still resorting to homophobic I-INCEL YOU'RE ACTUALLY A STRAIGHT WAIFU WHINER bullshit
cannot believe feminists are this desperate to give a corporation that hates them money

>i'm a married gay man
>HAHA NO YOU AREN'T
homophobes, everyone!

Who in the fuck would give that movie a negative review? The good parts greatly outshines the cringey parts and that's without the twist

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>he is not progressive, therefore he must be an incel
progressive logic right there

>Someone thinks differently than me? No... this isn't possible...

>nicolas cage killed ghost rider forever
fuck

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He got like what, 2 movies? That's quite enough "love". It only sucks for people who don't appreciate Cage absolute fucking kino.

>n-n-no U
And as always projection is the incels last defense when he reaizes his own logic is kicking him in the nuts.

Movie critics are uptight and believe they are the messiah that can do no wrong as they judge any and every movie under the same lens rather than being remotely flexible
That being said, I'd say the RT score for Detective Pikachu is accurate.

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>still insisting i'm not a married gay man
>I-I-INCEL REEEEEEEEE
when's this homophobic broken record going to quit?

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>retarded incel is illiterate as well
It really can't get any better then that.

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This. Its the fact that got a living meme and walking caricature like nicholas cage to play him in the most recent movie.

its impossible to take anything he is in sereiously, hes a joke

A critic has objective criteria, the audience has subjective interests.

An audience is more likely to be swayed by effective marketing, a critic will do their job.

Having watched the film just earlier, I can definitely say the marketing did an effective job of selling exactly what the movie is and how you can enjoy it, they nailed that.

Feels like they're setting that up, I'd be surprised if they don't have Thor in the next movie. I just hope they keep him fat.

Nick Cage definitely should keep being Ghost Rider, if literally anyone else is cast it just won’t be the same anymore

All the stuff with peters father is boring, which is weird because he shouldn't be considering he finally gets to reconnect with his 'old man'. The fact that they have Ego then explain his entire existence and explains everything he is currently doing and why and is jarring. Movies are supposed to be show not tell. The 'twist' comes out of nowhere, he just drops a "I killed your mom lol". The golden army felt like some side thing to waste screentime and they don't seem to have any purpose besides being mad Rocket stole shit. A lot of really forced jokes as well, or ones that went on too long

Honestly I think Ego is one of the biggest problems I had with it in general.
I admit the Yondu scenes were fun. The action wasn't bad it's just everything else was eye roll inducing. The first one was definitely more engaging.

>literally proves me right after calling him out

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>ghost rider
>most powerful hero
He's a one-trick faggot. Anyone with a soul has absolutely no chance against him. In fact he can literally (and I do mean literally) one-shot anyone with a soul by merely looking at their general direction.
Now put up a soulless opponent against him and he can't do shit other than rely on his chains.
Sure there are not many soulless people in Marvel but Thanos is one of them and he is enough.

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>movie is out
>no mind controlled fem mewtwo art
bruh

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Why can a plane be landed on that forehead of hers

hold up
are you saying gay people are incels because they can't get with women?
holy shit, you really ARE homophobic
these are the kind of people who like captain marvel? yikes

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Holy shit, you're really not pretending, you are an illiterate retard.

What is this Yea Forums thread doing here?

The two Chris's have great comedic chemistry with each other.

the word incel has been used so much by the left that it's lost all meaning these days. They call anybody and everybody they don't agree with "incel".

The left has a habbit of doing that to a shitload of words. Eventually incel will have no worth anymore as a insult that they will move onto some other new word to call you.

>writes incoherently
>it’s other people’s fault for not grasping your illiteracy
progressives shifting the blame for everything? gee, what a surprise

Alright, Yea Forums, pitch me your ideas for sequels and spin offs.

What "Pokemon doing human things" would you like to see a movie made about?

It'll come, just be patient

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>literally will not screaming "no you're not actually a gay man you're an incel pretending to be a gay man"
>LMFAO WOW YOU THINK I'M A HOMOPHOBE
because you literally are a homophobe
you pretend to care about gay people but then turn on them instantly if we disagree with you

She has like 5 minutes of screentime, maybe, in Endgame. Get fucked am I right

>Now put up a soulless opponent against him and he can't do shit other than rely on his chains.
Except for, you know, his chains
>can shapeshift into any weapon
>can cut anything
>are mind controlled meaning he can move them as fast as he wants at any direction
>can wrap around any enemy, then Ghost Rider can just speed up with his motorcycle to a different fucking dimension instantly thus guaranteedly ripping apart whatever the chains were attached to
Meanwhile Ghost Rider himself is
>immune to physical damage, managed to tank the Hulk without any sign of discomfort
>immune to psychic damage because of spirit of vengeance shenanigans
>immune to anything that isn't a heaven weapon
>and even if you do use heaven weapons against him, he instantly regenerates any damage
Nowadays he only fights lovecraftian eldritch gods that can't be one-shot by his soul-killing shenanigans. He is the only one capable of facing such entities.

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more like
>INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL
>wow what do you mean you didn't understand my argument?

>peanut sized incel brain can't understand simple english
Not even suprised to be honest.

>nintendo wins again while others fail
Win another failed movie attempt, congrats

>the word tranny/soiboy/cuck has been used so much by the right that it's lost all meaning these days. They call anybody and everybody they don't agree with "tranny/soiboy/cuck".
>The right has a habbit of doing that to a shitload of words. Eventually tranny/soiboy/cuck will have no worth anymore as a insult that they will move onto some other new word to call you.

hurrr durrr

>you pretend to care about gay people but then turn on them instantly if we disagree with you

Why are people obligated to care about homosexuals?

Hardy couldn't save it for me. He tried, really he did, but I still hated every but of Venom, except maybe Venom himself.

retarded masses are low iq

nobody has to give a shit about gay people
but pretending you care about them, only to try to take away their minority status if they wrongthink, is fucked up

They don't, it's just incels projecting their own insecurities onto others to distract from their fleeble attempts to argue why one billion at the box office isn't a success.

god damn that stupid nigger looks so out of place. why couldn't they have gotten a normal white actor or even a jap

Why is Ghost Rider weak to holy weapons anyway?
Isn't he supposed to be possessed by an angel? If anything hell weapons should be the big bads against him.

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>still insisting i'm not a gay man because i'm not a braindead idiot who understands how box office inflation works
retard homophobe

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>fans spent money
>critics didnt
critics have the better opinion because they aren't under the sunk cost fallacy

But tranny and soiboy are only used at the appropriate moments, it still works
Cuck was overused and lost its meaning a long time ago, sure

>But tranny and soiboy are only used at the appropriate moments

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>movie critics: meh it's another bland videogame adapation
>Pokemon fans who would buy a grenade without the pin if it had a Pikachu sticker on it: BEST MOVIE EVAH

Movie critics watched it as a movie an
Fans watched it as fans

they didn't pay but they're still obligated to watch and review the movie even if they have no desire to watch it and aren't the target demographic.

>incel proves once again that he's an illiterate retard who doesn't understand simple numbers let alone the logic behind it
Keep going.

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the problem with this movie is that it didn't know how to be executed, it tried to be a reboot and a sequel when even rlm propose a better plot, making a sequel and having them wanting to join and show they can do it. i also would've liked if the original team wad only have one left because others retired or passed away only for bill murray to open a school for more ghostbusters and let's the 4 women trying to join for personal motives

How bad were the Ghost Rider movies? Are they worth a torrent?

>people itt unironically defending movie reviews

christ

maybe it’s because the rider torments the shit out of people and makes them die of regret for their sins, meanwhile heaven is all about forgiveness and peace

what was the plot?

>movie came just out
>somehow inflation menas it didn't make a billion
Are you really this retarded or just really bad at baiting?

>i hate gay people so much i'm going to pretend they're not actually gay to try to get under their skin because i'm mad about a movie

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how did it end? was pikachu his dad?

No, the only decent parts are the Ghost Rider scenes and those are barely 10 minutes as a whole

The first one is entertaining enough. The second one, besides a few scenes, is just boring.

>incel once again tries to make it about gays all he can talk about
Go on.

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>mfw I googled info on any further releases after finishing the game and what I saw was an uglier than average ameriape from a fucking hollywood movie

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>Thor: Dark World
Yeh.
>Captain America
Weak ending, but otherwise a really solid movie.
>Age of Ultron
Yeh.
>Captain Marvel
Yeh.
>incredible Hulk
Yeh.
>Iron Man 2
The movie is pretty confused, but I don't hate it.
>Iron Man 3
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Man 3 is a solid movie. "Muh Mandarin"-fags need not apply.
>Black Panther
Solid movie outside of the power rangers CGI. Completely overrated by everyone in the US though.
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol II
Several of the jokes fall really flat to an uncomfortable degree and the finale comes a bit out of nowhere. But it does a good job juggling the entire cast. Still a decent movie, I'd say.

But that's because the angel possessing the rider is an Angel of Justice (angels in charge of protecting the innocent) that was captured by demons and tortured for years until it corrupted itself and became a Spirit of Vengeance (a creature in charge of bringing the souls of sinners to hell to feed the other demons). It's still an angel, just a corrupted one.
Also, Ghost Rider can forgive sins and purify people thus turning them benevolent, he just chooses not to do it for some reason. And anyone watching him approach has enough time to pray to God and ask for forgiveness anyway thus turning them invulnerable to the spirit of vengeance, whoever doesn't is a fucking dumbass or just a big bad

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oh, i will, until you get it through your thick skull
>i hate gay people so much i'm going to pretend they're not actually gay to try to get under their skin because i'm mad about a movie

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The movie was redpilled about jews though.

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A critics job is to be critical about thing they themselves haven't the vision to make
A fan or a regular person can simply enjoy something as what it is, just entertainment and will appreciate fan service and being true to lore etc
The main problem in my view is the self importance that critics have for there view

I doubt anybody who saw this movie actually played Detective Pikachu.

they are fine in the same way of any regular capeshit film, it’s worth only for the action scenes

"Critics" are paid and bought out.

Funny how I never mention gays, it's been only you the whole time little incel. And that only because you can't realize that 1 billion is bigger then 200 million.

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>Ghostbusters 2016 was a decently fine movie, same with Capital Marvel and Solo.

Its not my fault I keep dehumanizing leftists when they do the job for free.

I havent seen this movie yet but a lot of times critics analyze a movie more than the audience.
In this example a critic will look at the movie and say "Take away the Pokémon and it was just an average movie."
But the average audince member will say "Oh that movie reminded me of my childhood and that's something I enjoyed, it was a good movie."
So who's right? It depends. I have a huge personal attachment to Pokémon so in this case it's reassuring to me that people with a connetion to Pokémon enjoyed it.

Because basedboy fanboys are retarded and blinded by rose-tinted glasses. All the Pokemon movies are fucking atrocious. Detective Pikachu looks as bland, boring, and bad as the Sonic movie, but people love it because they love Pokemon. If you went back in time to 2003 or whatever, before Sonic 06 came out, and you showed them the Sonic trailer, Sonic fan boys would lose their mind and love it just like people love the Detective Pikachu trailer.

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The Last Jedi was objectively decent.
people who are mad about it are fucking retarded fanboys and need to grow the fuck up.

>Leftists

Im a conservative user.

>i hate gay people so much i'm going to pretend they're not actually gay to try to get under their skin because i'm mad about a movie

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while fans do it for free

A critic's job is to tell you if something is good according to an objective standard, not if you will enjoy it.

After Earth is fun with friends but it's still a terrible movie

>insisting someone is a straight incel when you know for a fact he's married and gay isn't homophobic

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fuck you faggots I tried to have a talk about ghost rider and spider-man but you keep talking about politics
hope the mods permaban all of you
and yes I know I was off-topic but going off-topic on Yea Forums, Yea Forums or Yea Forums themes is one thing, going off-topic about Yea Forums or /pol/ themes should warrant a permaban

>incel projects once again his insecurities becasue 1st grade math is too complex for him

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Based and redpilled

>being this homophobic because he's mad about Captain Marvel
imagine hating gay people this much, oof

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Guardians 2 is much better than the first one lol

One of you may be gay but you're both faggots

anyway, i'm going to go have sex with my husband. stay mad about your shit movie with artificially inflated numbers and bought seats

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Not video games fuck off you just wanted a lot of yous off a hot topic when you could of used some fucking metacritic score here’s mine now go suck a dick

Iron Man 3 is a shit film only if you expect the Mandarin to be the actual Mandarin. As soon as that muslim shit shows up you already know something’s up

At least we got Ecto-Cooler back for a few months.

The agenda rules user, niggers are here to stay and make you seeth

Nobody wants to try, they just want to win.

>imagine hating gay people this much, oof
Seeth harder incel.

But that makes them based and redpilled

Because fans aren't paid to advertise their shit.

that's a namefag, not a tripfag; there's a difference

In this case because many critics are not fans of the video games and may not even played them. They will look at the movie from a more objective standpoint where as many fan opinions are from people who love the franchise so they will be going into the movie already with a positive bias.

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capeshit fans can be fed feces and enjoy it.

But being a fan of the material ties expectation to it that might you rate it even harsher should it suck.

Of course overusing words like "cuck" is an exclusively left wing problem. This is your brain on /pol/

IIRC even Kanye West got called an incel too.

How can a pinless grenade be for sale? Wouldn't it already explode?

A lot of the critics are older and aren't going to understand Pokemon. The movie is made for fans of Pokemon to enjoy. Considering that fact, the movie is doing better with critics than I expected.

It explodes once you buy it

Fascinating. I need to know how this grenade was built.

>A lot of the critics are older and aren't going to understand Pokemon
That could be said about any movie about a world that's different than ours

If we're going by the movie canon he's mulatto, and The harsh truth is that, for all the bmwf shit they push, they don't give a shit about mulattos.

A good movie with an actor who is shit in real life can be overlooked because the movie is good. The artiat and work can be seperated.
A shit movie starring a shit person can not be overlooked, and the shitty person in the lead is just the icing on the shit cake.

>Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Man 3 is a solid movie. "Muh Mandarin"-fags need not apply.
Nigga even putting aside ruining the comic character, the twist was just stupid, he was actually a decent villain up until that point, and it gets replaced by "generic post-nerd supa eviiiil villain who is mad Tony ignored him on a rooftop"
Not to mention all the stupid shit with Pepper having powers (never brought up again the mcu btw) and a pretty muddled finale. The best scene is probably Stark saving all the falling people from the airplane.

Why did people on Yea Forums pay to see this film? What were you thinking?

I thought that fight was pretty kino

I just came back from the theater and I enjoyed it. I'd say it was worth the money.

I was kind of interested in the story up until that point. The entirety of the villains plan was just dumb desu

Because people are fucking stupid and enjoy every garbage you set in front of them as long as it's a recognizable brand.

you can spoonfeed fans dogshit and they'll like it.

>Detective Pikachu
SOUL
>Avengers
SOULLESS

>the stupid shit with Pepper having powers
Because she was injected with the stuff the villain was using.
>never brought up again the mcu
Because she underwent treatment for it in the end.

I took my girlfriend to see it

And apparently I will continue to be the only person in the world who actually thought Age of Ultron was enjoyable and good.

i liked ultron but i also wanted to fuck ultron

>that writing
Do people actually pay for that twitter post tier garbage?

Detective Pikachu is already projected to do better than Endgame by the end of the year. There's nothing the mouse can do about it.

Personally, I don't entertain the opinions of Pokemon fans because they obviously don't know what they're talking about if they like Pokemon, so I must assume the critics are right on this one.

Because the fans aren't 60-70 old people.

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1) People who become critics as a group are not representative of society in regard to interests, gender, race and everything.
2) Critics are not representative of the target audience of every specific movie. They probably look down on games on average.
3) Critics view many movies so they will value uniqueness and will not value things they've seen before 100000 times.
4) Critics are more interested in movies so they care about cinematography, shot composition and other gay shit that isn't explosions, fanservice and hot women.

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Remember that movie critics are corrupt and accept bribes from Disney to scorebomb movies such as Detective Pikachu.

Spider man 3 is a dumpster fire
2 and 1 were good though

Pacing was kinda jank, desu. The initial scene in Oakland isn't properly executed and Killmonger comes into the movie way too late. The weird pacing makes T'Challa less compelling than he is in Civil War because he just doesn't have anything to DO for most of the movie, whereas in CW he was determined and active and he was the best part of that movie.

I still really like Black Panther but it has some issues. But saying it's one of the worst MCU movies is laughable.

>GotG Vol II
bruh what it's like in the fucking top 5.

Also come on Cap 1 and Iron Man 3 aren't THAT bad.

it's 2019's "u mad?", any reply confirms that yes they are seething and you have won

fpbp

What is there to not understand?

Go on Yea Forums, in addition to being seething and cringe and have sex, you can also be worked.

The critics are seldom fans and therefore don't know what fans like or want.

Endgame is The Last Jedi all over again, critics like it but the fans hate it.

I'm aware, it was still stupid, is my point. The entire finale battle was cringey and lame.

I thought the Last Jedi was a good movie with good ideas that executed some of them in a very clunky way. Every time I see people act like it's a fucking abomination on this website, I just have no idea what they're talking about.

trembling already Warnercuck?

Honestly the only thing that needed to be explained more was Mewtwo considering he's a pretty important to the Pokemon lore and is a complex character.

>bruh what it's like in the fucking top 5.
What is your MCU top 5 bruh
>Also come on Cap 1 and Iron Man 3 aren't THAT bad.
I'll give you Cap 1, the other 2 iron man films outside of the first were bad though

>the Torterra scene

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I got to see venom eat special forces units
That’s more then I could have ever hoped for a pg13 rated venom movies which doesn’t featured any other marvel characters

Off the top of my head,
1. Guardians 1
2. Infinity War
3. Endgame
4. Guardians 2
5. I dunno, maybe IM1 or Thor 3.

I'm not saying Iron Man 3 was like, great, but it's not as bad as Thor 2 or IM2. It's pretty middle of the road for the MCU.

50k reviews were deleted because "muh trolls"

>Captain America
Fuck off, that's literally the only good movie

You're the one who should be trembling, because Detective Pikachu is already set to smash Endshit's records.

I actually went there and enter a random thread
Damn, what a bunch of cringe seething worked fags

>does the movie even have anything to do with the games?

its a movie about the game pokemon?

Detective Pikachu's game is fucking terrible lmao.

I will always remember pic related as an examples of criti vs fan consensus, and it’s relevant to pokemon

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It is bad in almost every possible way a film can be bad. It didn't execute some of its ideas poorly, it executed all of it poorly and then some. The entire casino planet bullshit didn't need to happen le stronk woman bullshit was unneeded, led to some very stupid character decisions that don't make sense but that I'm supposed to buy because stronk woman. Lukes character ruined entirely, it feels like the end of a trilogy not the middle piece, horrible dialogue, garbage pacing.

I'm really more shocked when people try to claim it was any good.

Nope, iron man and GotG 1 are also good, better than captain america 1 certainly.

>le stronk woman bullshit was unneeded
>Lukes character ruined entirely,
See, this makes it really difficult for me to take you seriously. ESPECIALLY the second one.

>literally the only good movie
Shit taste my guy

This was the absolute worst pile of shit I have every watched. Literally had 2 (if you could even fucking call it that) pokemon fights. In the fucking trash it goes.

Audience members self filter. When you see the marketing for a movie like this, you know whether or not you can turn your brain off and ignore its obvious flaws or not. The people who go see Detective Pikachu know exactly what they're getting into. If you forced a random sample of people to watch it, they wouldn't rate it this well. On the other hand, critics don't self-filter, and they are trying to reflect its appeal to a general audience, not those that have already decided they want to see it.

and if doesnt you'll just shit your pikachu diaper and cry about how its all a conspiracy by Disney

Failing to see what you can't take serious about it. You realize changing an established character entirely isn't good story telling, and neither is a character withholding information just to show she is a powerful woman and for no other actual logical, story relevant reason

Imagine having taste so shit that you confuse kino of the year for shit.

You should at least give him that respect, I mean, he is taking you thinking Last Jedi was "good" seriously, when he really shouldn't.

>SEELE still trying to enact their plan
Those guys just will never give up

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the pandering dialogue was cringey and took me out of the movie and the CGI fight against warmonger was awful.

I don't really watch Marvel movies, but I did see Iron Man 3 and it had the worst one-liner I've ever heard in my life.

>MOVIE BASED ON MONSTER FIGHTS
>THEY ONLY HAPPEN IN UNDERGROUND FIGHT CLUB TIER ARENAS
>"Did you hear pokemon are starting to attack humans? That's soooo unlike them! This is a scoop" - SOME STUPID REPORTER BITCH
ALL POKEMON LITERALLY DO IS ATTACK PEOPLE.
THEY ARE USED FOR COMBAT.
THIS MOVIE SPLICED THEM IN WITH SHITTY REGULAR DAILY ROUTINES, MAKING IT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE PHOTOSHOPPED ON THE SCREEN RATHER THAN ADAPTING THE WORLD TO A PLACE THAT HAD A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH POKEMON. THIS ENTIRE MOVIE ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE A FUCKING POKEMON GO TRAILER BECAUSE OF HOW OUT OF PLACE THESE FUCKING POKEMON LOOK.

>it had the worst one-liner I've ever heard in my life.
What was it.

IN THE END, RYAN REYNOLDS IS HIS FUCKING DAD? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? NO SHIT. EVERYTHING IS PREDICTABLE. THERE IS ONE ACTUAL FIGHT IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE AND IT DOESN'T EVEN INVOLVE THE MAIN CHARACTER. THE MAIN CHARACTER LITERALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO USE ANY OF HIS 4! FIGHTING MOVES UNTIL THE VERY LAST 10 MINUTES.

>You realize changing an established character entirely isn't good story telling,
Yeah dude, everything should just stay the same forever. Just show me the thing I already know so that I can recognize it and clap for it. Luke fucks up in a horrible way, exiles himself, picks himself up, comes back, is Luke Fucking Skywalker again and faces down the First Order by himself, which is something he said he wasn't going to do at the start of the movie. He ends the movie staring at the twin suns the same way he did in his youth, and he gives himself over to the Force to save his student the same way his master did for him and ignites the Rebellion in the process.

This is good filmmaking, dude, I'm sorry to break it to you.

>for no other actual logical, story relevant reason
She had a reason, and she gave it. She didn't trust Poe because he had just gotten a bunch of people killed. Holdo was one of the things that definitely could've been better executed, but it wasn't movie breakingly terrible, and referring to it as "le stronk women bullshit" just comes off like you have an axe to grind.

>Pokemon Let's Go
The hell? Wouldn't that be the INVERSE situation where critics and normies loved it while fans hated it?

Explorers of the Sky is absolutely appropriate though.

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The part at the end where Tony's line before he deals his final attack against the villain, where the villain says "It's a shame about Pepper, she was too good for you and I was so close to making her perfect." or something like that and Tony says something like "You're right, I didn't deserve her. But here's where you're wrong: she was already perfect." and then the music swells and he does his final attack and wins, and that line is treated like his final put down on the villain. I don't mind him saying Pepper is perfect obviously, but it's such a lame thing to say to the villain and they treat it like it's so much cooler and dramatic than it really is.

It's usually difficult for me to find a one-liner I don't like because usually even the bad ones are just dumb and have a certain charm attached to them for that, but that line was just bad and with no campiness or anything like that to make it bad in a good way.

Wrong, there are no Klefki in the movie :)

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what's with Doug and AVGN making random cameo apperances in weeb media? does jap internet actually watch them?

>”Repetitive music”

Detective Water when

Because Hollywood like movies that follow their ways or suck Hollywood's dick. So when something like a videogame movie or an animated movie comes out suddenly that movie is beneath them.

>objective opinions
Oh, boy. Here we go.

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Critics always have to agree with the consensus among critics or else they look stupid. it's better to be stupid as part of a group than on your own. they only compete by being the most pretentious in how they explain things

I dont think you know what one liners are.

>that sugimori art in the credits

Critics walk into things with skepticism, your average viewer expects to be entertained.

$

Venom fags are shit eaters filled normie boomers and niggers

I want to FUCK that ghost girl

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It was honestly a nice touch. It also made the mayor guy look more like a villain.

>tim lighting Mr. mime on fire
That was unexpectedly dark and hilarious. Also the Seinfield joke.

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>critics dont know anything, fans are the only people who you should trust
also Yea Forums
>fans are retards who eat shit, critics are right
sasuga Yea Forumsgaf

Not him, but Rey is just a fucking boring character with few, if any, flaws. She rarely struggles with anything, accomplishes what it took Luke two and a half movies to accomplish in 20 minutes, there's just no tension when she's on-screen. I don't think it has anything to do with le stronk womyn meme, she's just a boring, flat character with little depth that does everything well without having to earn it. She trains with Luke for a couple days, fucks off but is magically awesome at using the force, then swoops in and saves the day at the end while they kill Luke off in the fucking stupidest way possible.

The scene in which he dies was actually great, he's sitting on his little rock with the sunset in the background, it felt like he was maybe opening himself back up to the force and was going to get off his duffer and go do something, but lolnope, he just poofs away instead. Then you have the entire scene with Not-Paltpatine, Rey and Kylo Ren, which should have been the actual end of the movie, leaving it on a cliffhanger with Rey having to either take Kylo's offer to throw it all away and go with him to start over. But lolnope, back to square one, like it didn't even happen.

Finn was the most interesting character in TFA, and they did fuck-all with him in TLJ, relegating him to a nonsensical side-plot that both had no bearing on the actual story and was logically a complete, utter waste of time. Why the fuck wouldn't Holdo just tell Poe what her plan was? What was the reason for the secrecy? I'll tell you what the reason was, it was so Finn and Rose could go on their little adventure and have something to do in the movie.

It was wheel spinning: The Movie, nothing fucking happened, all the characters were in more or less the same place at the end that they were at in the beginning. Except for Luke, who was fucking dead after being a glorified overhead projector.

If all jews on earth suddenly died today, there would be no more gap anymore from tomorrow onward.

>old men
that's very little now percentage now, it's mostly 30-40 people who wish they had done better in life

Cause people that never got over themselves wants to be constrain.

>Critics aren't Fanboys but autistic /vp/ manchildren are

Ftfy

Tell me what my boy did

Jews. Look, man, I know. You see a post like this and you think "fucking /pol/tard" and shake your head and I used to do the same thing. Shit is just so much worse than you know right now and everything's all discombobulated and it all goes back to one place and I wish it didn't. I really fucking didn't because my family is non-practicing Polish Jew that converted Catholic generations ago. I'm not gonna denigrate you for not wanting to believe it or thinking I'm wrong, but it's that fucking simple. Our people are a virus at the leadership level.

I agree that Rey doesn't struggle enough, but her shit with Luke and Kylo was the highlight of the movie for me, so I don't really agree that she's boring or without flaws. Her being powerful is fine, I don't really need to see some Rocky-ass training montage where Luke helps Rey level up her rock moving skills. Her just being powerful in the Force is reasonable. I agree that Finn was not utilized well in the movie - they deleted an extremely important scene that establishes where he's coming out of TFA and sets up his arc but even then, narratively, him deciding to commit to the Resistance isn't done as well as it should've been, given how important he is and a lot of that has to do with how clunky the casino planet was. But them not accomplishing anything on the casino plot isn't narratively useless, it serves the themes of the movie, learning from failure, and the shit with the little kids comes back at the end.

Holdo didn't tell Poe the plan because she didn't trust him because he just got a bunch of people killed taking out the Dreadnought. It could've been executed better - I think they should've leaned into the idea that with Leia there, both Poe and Holdo are good at their jobs, but with Leia out, both of them are struggling, forced into a position they're not ready for, but both of them in their own way learn from each other and grow as leaders, Poe figuring out that sometimes you've gotta live to fight another day and Holdo figuring out that sometimes you've just gotta blow some shit up. Like I said, the idea is there, but the execution was clunky. But it wasn't like, TERRIBLE the way it was in the movie.

Luke's death was beautiful, I completely disagree with you on that. He gives himself over to the Force in a way that parallels with the best parts of New Hope and Jedi and he goes out in basically the only way I would accept. It's like that "it's like pottery, it rhymes" shit from the prequels, except actually good.

Lol the only good part was sexy venom gril but venom fans have always been acting like evrything venom related is GOAT

>Luke starts off shit
>blind optimism and a mysterious past, and the sacrifice of a mentor, carries him through to win the day despite the odds
>he goes to grow stronger, but ever the optimist, faces certain death in a futile attempt to save his friends, only surviving because the bad guy wants to use him and could have easily slaughtered him without a second thought
>trains for years, truly becoming a Master in his own right, still willing to throw his life on the line for hope, and would still have died if not for the deep hidden affection of his father's sacrifice which fulfilled an ancient prophecy, an even set in motion before Luke was ever born

>Rey
>has no friends or family, no support, has to do everything on her own
>instead of being angry, bitter, and sneaky, she's just a confident bullwark that excels at combat because ???
>she defeats a powerful Sith Lord with a weapon she's never used before and has powerful Force powers despite having no idea what it is because ???
>everyone loves her despite her being a complete jackass because ???
>her plans work because the enemy is completely hilariously incompetent
>actually this just sums up the show in general, they only succeed because the Empire is even more incompetent than they are
>also by the way remember Luke, yeah he did a 180 and has nothing to do with Luke in the original movies
>by the way Rey is now a master of the force
>telports behind u ignore the fact the Elite Honor Guard literally run away and miss attacks on purpose
>saves Kylo nothing personell Ren because she's so good
>haha join me this is just like that time Vader told Luke to join him except with absolutely no emotional reveal or attachment except horny teens in your area now
>escapes because incompetence
>literally Luke just fucking dies cause he skyped too hard

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Critics who are willing to accept the Marvel heroes can't wrap their brains around what a Pokey Man is, literal boomer brain rot syndrome.

Most marvel movie get 3/5 It's not good but it's positive for rotten tomato stop misunderstanding rotten tomato score

>she defeats a powerful Sith Lord with a weapon she's never used before and has powerful Force powers despite having no idea what it is because ???
Okay, first off, Kylo was nowhere near being a Sith Lord in TFA. And secondly, motherfucker, he got SHOT WITH A WOOKIE BOWCASTER.

Because critics are literal Boomers and Gen Xers who only know Pokemon as "The thing my kids used to play on their Nintendo and the thing my grandkids play on their phone"
Having said that, this movie still looks like shit.

The Loki fan loves the dark world he has a lot of character development

And he was perfectly fine because the Sith feed off negative emotions and pain and the movie even went out of its way to show that.

Except it didn't because Rey won because she's so fucking good.

Unironically this. Google the Kalergi plan and the Bolshevik revolution. You'll understand a lot more about what's going on and why nothing makes sense anymore.

Wow, dude, you completely misinterpreted what the movie was trying to show. It was showing that he had a gunshot wound and he was bleeding and he was in an insane amount of pain. It wasn't making him stronger. It was his excuse for losing.

Without that wound, there's no way Finn can even keep up with him, muchless actually hit him. Which is, by the way, another wound to make his loss to Rey more plausible.

Nobody swallows your shit it's cringey and lame he got you good just go to sleep mommy's gonna make you breakfast and tell you all woman want your dick so that you won't be grumpy tomorow

so, why is the movie shit? I enjoyed it and thought it was surprisingly decent but know that it's no magnum opus.
tell me without holding the hand of reviews.

Other than pikachu all the pokeman looks hyperunrealistic

Again, not really. Rey never fails, the movie makes this a point. A repeated point.

Everything she does she wins. This is the antithesis of a hero. What is a hero with no loss, sacrifice, or room for growth? I would say a boring ass Shounen protagonist but even they get their asses kicked around before they reach beyond God level. Rey is just boring.

>Twice as many showings
>lower ticket avg.
lol

Treecko looked really good and the Morelull as well. Mewtwo looked nice as well.
some other mons looked pretty good as well.

I like the scene when she's absolutely powerless and unable to move a single finger

Bright was fucking bad, and people liked it cause will smith im pretty sure

You didnt see spiderverse did you?

>Holdo didn't tell Poe the plan because she didn't trust him
They're literally all about to die, they're the only people in the resistance left, everyone on the ship wants answers, not just Poe. It made zero sense to not just tell everyone there the plan. What would Poe have even done? He liked the plan when she finally told him, and keeping all that shit to herself accomplished nothing but starting a mutiny because half the crew thought she was completely incompetent and had no plan.

She kept it to herself so Poe, Finn and Rose had a thing they could go and do during the low-speed space-chase. Nothing but wheel-spinning.

>Luke's death was beautiful
Pic related. It was a beautiful scene that was ruined by having him fucking die a glorified overhead projector. It would have been the perfect way to show that he had reopened himself to the force and the idea of hope and was ready to not be a crusty old hermit anymore.

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And then escaped without any consequence having completely thwarted the bad guy's evil schemes.

>It made zero sense to not just tell everyone there the plan

I can understand not telling the grunts but when she left her officer staff in the dark you just know some retarded thinking went into that. Why would there be First Order spies on board when they're being chased down and picked off?

Yeah, I kinda thought she would just mary sue the whole thing, glad Disney didnt give in to that peer pressure.

Don't forget the part where they actually seem like they're setting up a nice twist with Kylo tempting Rey to just fuck off with him and forget the Jedi and the Sith, which would have been an interesting direction to take both their characters and the rest of the trilogy, but lolnope, Kylo is bad guy again and Rey is super goodlady, RESET BUTTON LOL :^))))

Because Yea Forums and reddit did a review bomb campaign.

Of course if niggers review bomb a movie/game it's not going to show accurate scores.

When the mjolnir flew by I was half convinced Captain Marvel would be the one holding it, but nope, based Cap kicks some ass with it for a few minutes instead.

If the movie was rated r she would have been rape but it's for children soo..

>People who sperg out over details and dont enjoy anything
Vs
>People who have fun and sex

Back in the day critics where the elite comprised exclusively of people educated on cinema language and technique so their critiques implyied an educated analyisis, not a simple baseless opinion, and therefore their imput was valid and respectable. These days they know as little as the audience and some youtubers and their reviews are basically on the level of reading the plot of the back of a dvd box + their opinions on how X political topic is or not adressed in the movie. This make them worthless.

Lol snoke had is force grip thump right in her asshole for 5 minutes

I feel like "glorified overhead projector" is being a bit glib. He projected himself across the galaxy. That's probably pretty difficult.

>It would have been the perfect way to show that he had reopened himself to the force and the idea of hope and was ready to not be a crusty old hermit anymore.
Yeah and it. Did all of that stuff? That's kinda what was so good about it.

I'll defend Last Jedi pretty vigorously because I genuinely liked it a lot, but,
>Kylo tempting Rey to just fuck off with him and forget the Jedi and the Sith,
They absolutely should've done this. Just fuck off the Jedi, fuck off the Sith, fuck off the First Order and build something new. Kylo backsliding was disappointing to me and considering how gutsy Johnson was in some other parts of the movie, I'm disappointed he didn't just go for it.

I never really got this fear, that movie was always gonna be Cap and Tony's time to shine and the Russos weren't gonna undercut that. Although I was just a little nervous when Thanos headbutted her and she just fucking no-sold it. It made him bodying her with the Power Stone a lot better.

>The Dark Elves just fuck around for a majority of the movie.
>Christopher Eccleston put in a shit ton of time and effort into researching his character and they waste him completely.
>Thor's relationship barely exists.
>Science mumbo jumbo for a majority of the movie.
>Fights are incredibly boring for a guy who is the god of thunder.
Thor and Loki's minor interactions are the only thing that kept that movie afloat, it's right at the bottom of the entire MCU movie list.

>Christopher Eccleston
>Mickey Rourke
>Mads Mikkelsen
The number of incredible actors wasted on shitty villains in the MCU is fucking criminal.

Have you never seen the avgn nico nico videos?
They love the guy

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At least Amy Pond managed to get a lead spot in GotG and Endgame.

Having him die like that was beyond stupid, Rey and Kylo talked multiple times across the galaxy and nothing happened to them at all. That's a pretty shit feat for a legendary Jedi master.

And that doesn't even address the complete character assassination in the rest of the movie. His whole arc in the RotJ is that anyone, no matter ho bad, can be saved, that there's good in everyone, but then oh no, my nephew is having some weird bad dreams, lol better pull out my laser sword and try to kill him! Completely, utterly out of character.

Everything was absolute trash after the fight for Wakanda between Black Panther and Warmonger.
They absolutely did not try at all in the 2nd half. They said "WE NEED TO MAKE THIS MOVIE MORE GENERIC" and they did. You have the HORRIBLE looking CGI battle between the villain and the hero while a giant, unimpressive war is going on between two armies. It's not fun to watch.
I honestly believed that Black Panther was easily one of the best MCU films during the 1st half. It was interesting with great environments and decent character interactions. They drop that quality almost immediately.

>Waahhh canonically powerful character is shown to be powerful in the movies as well.

The Captain Marvel origin movie was alright. I feel like they should've skipped the origin story shit and made the movie about her fighting Thanos' forces or some shit, showing the history between her and Thanos. Thanos is historically a captain marvel villain as well

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>people don't like fantasy in a modern setting
>people don't like cop movies
The hell is wrong with you niggers?

jesus christ, lower down the onion intake.

>Dumbass "Orcs are black people XD" hamhanded allegory
>Was just generic gun fight after gun fight until the last act.
>Ham handedly implied Will Smith as a bright as well
>Dumbass plot hinges on dumbass corrupt cops that randomly wanted to kill the Orc cop "becuz he's an orc xDDDD"
>GET IT? ORCS ARE BLACK PEOPLE. CIVIL RIGHTS GUYS

I liked Bright. Wouldn't watch it again but I liked it

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And if Kylo did that, you'd rage like the faggot you are because "but muh Yoda said that if you go the path of the Dark Side even ONCE, forever will it dominate your destiny" and complain anyway. Him still siding with the Dark Side in the end makes sense.

>orcs are niggers
Orcs and humans have been a thing since forever
>generic gun fight
Yeah? It's explained why. It's not a good one but it's explained. Most likely for the harry potter crowd
>will smith is a bright
Never made sense but you know PLOT
>whatever the hell this is
Again, orcs vs humans
>Orcs are niggers
Get your fucking head straight

there's also "you're projecting", which some autist is trying to force

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>how gutsy Johnson was in some other parts of the movie
He wasn't gutsy, Abrams just left him with little in the way of a framework and a direction in which to take the movie, so he said "fuck it, I'll do the opposite of what everyone expects, that will shock people." This is not how you handle the middle movie in a trilogy, and I put lots of the blame on Abrams for not giving him much of anything to work with, it wasn't all Rian's fault.

In fact Abrams is at fault for much of the trilogy so far being mediocre-to-bad, Lucas and whatsherface had several ideas and plans that they concocted as a part of their pitch to sell the franchise to Disney, but Abrams said "Nah, throw that shit out, imma do my own thing and then leave nothing for the next guy to work with."

>and thats a good thing
Fucking what a horrible journo meme

>B-b-but you'd say THIS if this thing ACKSHUALLY happened
Please, tell me more about what I think and what I would say.

Hang yourself.

Fans are happy to accept trash as long as it's familiar trash. That's why they're fans. They're a blight on society.

>Critics look at it objectively
>Critics think The Last Jedi is a good movie
just lol

You're fucking stupid you wanna know what's considered a land slide in politics a 5% difference. That's 4/10 disliked it vs 2/10 you stupid nigger that's fucking massive. Do you want a 60% pay raise or 80% cause the difference is massive you absolute idiot.

On games it's often that reviewers get bought out and don't beat games, but consumers who pay for shit that doesn't get written off as taxes actually sink their time into shit they buy and buy shit they think will be worth their time.
But this isn't about vidya, is it?

All of those outlets are likely the same one that consistently remind people of gamergate. Lmao.

this is giving me brain ebola

You're already on a rant about something that's only logical lorewise. So yeah, I can actually put words in your mouth and know what you'd say if things ended up differently. You should actually hang yourself.

>Touhou
>Mario
>Ghost Busters
>AVGN
>NC
I never thought I would see such a crossover

Because fans always gauge the quality of vidya by a couple memorable scenes while professional reviewers go in-depth with the intricate details and usually sum up the quality of a product with a broad stroke.
Also both sides have different biases and references, influencing scores to their respected desires.

>Orcs and humans have been a thing since forever
Yeah except they make them directly correlate as black people by making them live in ghettos and wear oversized jerseys, drinking 40s in the street and etc. Instead of making them actually act like Orcs.

>Yeah? It's explained why. It's not a good one but it's explained. Most likely for the harry potter crowd
It only explains it but doesn't excuse the direction they took the movie. You might as well have made it a generic cop movie and it would've been better

>Never made sense but you know PLOT
And it was a shit plot. That's why people didn't fucking like the movie

>Again, orcs vs humans
No, it's fucking retarded. The way it was being executed was just hamhanded "muh civil rights" bullshit. The "dark lord" was also clearly an elf. Elves should be ostracized with the same logic.

>Orcs are niggers
Yeah, that's the movie's point and it felt like a retarded afternoon special.

What in the lore says those two characters coudn't have done something other than hit the reset button and go right back to where they were at the start of the fucking movie?

Again, fucking kill yourself.

Literally Yoda you dumbfuck, once you go Dark Side, you don't go back. Unless you are the chosen one because you are the chosen one and have your son dying in front of you. Kylo coming back to the light side and live through it would be bullshit, and I certainly hope they don't do that for IX. Hang yourself.

>ghettos are now exclusively a black thing
A ghetto is a product of when a lower, inferior class or race is subjugated by a higher, superior class or race. Every nation has had ghettos. It makes sense that orcs are like that.

Also elves are clearly jews if we're gonna look at it that way.

>orcs being niggers is the movies point
Did we even watch the same damn movie?

>Because fans always gauge the quality of vidya by a couple memorable scenes while professional reviewers go in-depth

Fucking true. Look at Rogue One for instance, critics know it's garbage but fans squeal about how TOTALLY BADASS that vader scene was

For detective pikachu I read a lot of reviews that a lot of critics were not pokemon fans, and said a lot of shit went over their heads.

>Critics knew it's garbage
Critics liked rogue one though you retard.

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Wow, you're making a lot of stupid-ass assumptions.

Never said they had to succeed or speculated on what they would actually do once they fucked off. It simply would have been a more interesting direction in which to take the characters than
>LOLnope, reset button :^)

They spend half the fucking movie building up to that moment and hinting at it with the two being connected with force magic and in the scene(s) leading up to the audience with Snoke, and then Kylo just goes back to being generic badguy.

That movie was fucking trash. I've never seen so much shit crammed into such a small time frame. I felt like I needed a smaller attention span to follow the damn movie. By the time I realized what was going on in one scene it had already gone ahead to the next two scenes

It's odd way of saying "women aren't funny"

kill your parents

The actual ghost rider scenes are great. 2 ups the effects of the fire and small details like the leather jacket bubbling with the heat really add to the intensity. 2 also has an amazing scene with this giant digger. But there's just not enough of Ghost Rider.
In 1, Cage isn't energetic at all, with some weird as hell scenes. The movie has no idea what to do with him.
In 2, Cage is full blown crazy but then they focus on a kid and his mother for most of it.
Still worth a watch though.

>By the time I realized what was going on in one scene it had already gone ahead to the next two scenes
That sounds like a personal deficiency.

Welcome to the new world order. Its kosher my goyim

Fucking hell, I remembered it being like 60 or something. What a stupidly inflated RT score

>Unless you are the chosen one because you are the chosen one and have your son dying in front of you.
Prequel bullshit that didn't fucking exist when the original trilogy was made and these themes established and explored. Luke's entire goddamned arc in RotJ was that everyone has good in them and anyone, no matter how bad, can be saved and brought back to the light.

>I hope the character doesn't have an arc and stays a petulant child and generic badguy for the whole trilogy
Get a gun, press the end of barrel to your temple, and squeeze the trigger.

t. nuwars cuckboy

RO was the most Star Wars movie since the OT though.

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>just look at this dick sucking smile
Wondering how many years she was on cock carousel.

how can you have a pokemon movie starring a main character that dislikes pokemon in a city where pokemon battles are illegal, give me a real pokemon movie

All the women in the movie are funny and talented, the movie just sucks.

>Posts a bunch of action figure shit on a screen and calls it kino

Thanks for the demonstration buddy

It's the most true SW since the OT, plain and simple. Deal with it.

Yeah that's kino in 2019, just look at Marvel, loved by critics and the audience alike.

Critics see an ungodly amount of movies, so they become pretty jaded sometimes.
Also, they have suck movie studio's dicks sometimes so that they can continue to have access. "I hated the Last Jedi, but I have to give it a good review so I can continue to go to Disney's red carpet events"

But, specifically for Detective Pikachu, a lot of these critics are old men and women who didn't grow up with Pokemon. Meaning, they don't fully understand the movie's world and they don't get the references and the fan service. If this movie came out in 2039 or 2049 it would probably have a higher critic score.

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>remember it being 60

You remembered it wrong. RO always had consistently high scores for both critics and viewers.

It needed to have fewer characters and less nonsense the movie didn't bother to explain at all. And don't tell me I need to watch a fucking cartoon or read some books to understand basic shit that's going on and who characters are, movies need to be able to stand on their own and be predicated and reliant on supplemental works for the viewer to understand what's happening.

It didn't need to explain Forest Whitaker's character's life story, just fucking explain who the fuck he is and why he's a fucking walking dishwasher with a purple mind-rape monster that apparently only mind-rapes you for a day or two and then you're fine.

Bribes

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Sure thing buddy

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Critics should be looking for problems somewhat objectively while comparing what they view to things it share similarities/takes inspiration from, preferably things that have done it well. There will always be subjectivity involved, but a good critic will try to not rely on their feelings as much as they will rely on a fair judgement on the quality of the execution the director (or whoever it may be in various different scenarios) has achieved compared to what could have been done with knowledge of previous, well-done examples in mind.
The baseline for what is a well made example will likely differ, but in any medium it should not be that drastically different from a general consensus among those with knowledge of the medium.

However now critics are just people paid to have opinions and talk some shit about stuff. It's only getting worse, but vidya still has the worst critics.

THIS. SO MUCH THIS!

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>, just fucking explain who the fuck he is and why he's a fucking walking dishwasher

The movie explained this.

I think you're just retarded.

brie larson can't act for shit

They did. He's a rebel that separated from the alliance and went full extremism in his methods. Him using torture with his monster only adds to that. Everything you needed to know was explained or showed.

>56%
It's way worse now. Funfact: TLJ audience score is worse than any of the prequels

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She was good in the Scott Pilgrim movie. The actor can only be as good as the material and the direction they're given. Unfortunately the material for Captain Marvel wasn't good.

No, it didn't. He's in the movie for all of 10 minutes, then is abruptly swept under the rug and dies.

It was better than Solo and TLJ but it was still mediocre. The end was the worst pat, every character just HAD to have their little
>I'm living up to the expectations set for me and I'm dying in a last blaze of glory :3
Moment and it was beyond predictable and boring.

Same people who give Venom a 30% probably give every other Marvel film a 90%

Why was he a fucking walking dishwasher

What was the monster, where did it come from, why did he mind-rape people with it

There was so much they could have explored with his character and relationship with Jyn and her father, but there's just too much shit going on and he's quickly killed and the movie just moves on.

>No, it didn't. He's in the movie for all of 10 minutes, then is abruptly swept under the rug and dies.

But it did, all you needed to know is that he was an extremist that raised Jyn after the Empire took her parents. He was injured in the conflict he left her at and she thought he died. Clearly you're just retarded.

nu sjw star wars are way worse then prequels, at least prequels had this autistic charm to it.

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Most of the other Marvel movies are legitimately better than Venom, sorry. Pacing was off, it set itself up fine but then 2/3s of the way through the movie we get generic bad-guy-is-good-guy-but-more-betterer nonsense we got sick of 10 movies ago and Venom decides he's going to be le goodguy anti-hero and save the earth because lol I'm a loser too.

Hardy's performance was good, the teaser at the end has me legitimately interested in seeing the next one just for Woody as Carnage, but that's all that was truly good about the movie.

You tags will die alone lmao. Venom is top tier and the movie did venom justice. Don't @me

Do you also need to know what characters ate for breakfast and if their shit was solid or liquid, or their pee clear or yellow? Who cares where the monster comes from? You already know what it is, it reads minds. All you need to know is he doesn't care if he has to use a mindraping monster on a human to get his answers. It serves to show he can and will use torture to get to his goals, and thus explains why he and the rebellion parted ways.

Why setup all that shit just to not explain it, and do nothing with the relationship between himself, Jyn and her father. Pacing was erratic, there were too many characters and again it was too predicated on having seen/read other SW media.

I love how everytime someone criticizes Brie's acting the first thing people respond with is "but Scott Pilgrim"

Holy shit this is why people don't trust viewer reviews over critics. RO is not that hard of a movie to understand and yet this autistic retard needs every little detail explained to him

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No.

Prequels have more entertainment value for being so unbelievably horrible, but they are objectively poorly-made films by any/all standards used to measure such things. TLJ is right down there with the prequels for me, It was terrible, but it is still a more well-made film than any of the prequels.