I would like to have a FFXIV thread

I would like to have a FFXIV thread.
Do you have any hopes for your favorite class in shadowbringers?
I hope greased lightning 4 finally becomes a thing, maybe making you quick enough to make riddle of fire not feel as bad.

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XIV is shit and so are you
we don't need to have threads every ten minutes

Fuck GL4 I want MNK's fists to cycle like BRD songs.

Yeah, how dare he try to talk about something other than Smash or Persona!

I havn't seen a thread up for several hours now? Are you mistaking XIV for VII?

The tooltip for some of the fist buffs used to mention using mana, maybe they'll bring that back because TP is being removed or someshit? I heard that at one point.

>they know

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Yea Forums is for video games, not skinner boxes
ban MMOshit, ban gachashit, ban console wars

I'd wish we'd get a huge Dragon's Dogma-like explorable zone.

DD's zones weren't that big.

>if I don't like it it's not a real video game

Nice irony you got there.

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>leaving eceleb out
I hope they ban you as well, for posting offtopic flamewars.
That would be great, didn't pre ARR have big zones? I'm sure the servers could support it.

I mean the first game, not the MMO.

So did I.

>Like 12 VIIR threads.
>BETTER PERMA DELETE XIV THREADS XD.

This is my wife, say something nice.

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just fucking an hero yourself, useless trash

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Handsome lion man

She looks smart, now say something nice about my wife.

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wspd or crit?

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She looks like she will have a cute funeral.

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T-this already happened and she lived.

I still can't believe Hien, Yugiri and Lyse just got btfo and they don't even address it or tell us what happened to them or if they're even okay
Like it's not even a cliffhanger it's just not addressed

looks like the claws were part of their racial gear after all

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>Those retards that thought they would kill Y'shtola in SB

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war should be dps
drk should be dps
_________________
change my mind

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semi-important characters like them only die via self-sacrifice

>He doesn't want to tank solely with his own sheer fucking anger
Admittedly DRK could be DPS I guess but WAR as a tank is fine

You know what, I'm really not worried.

youtube.com/watch?v=cJRyEyLBMqI

As a samurai I was appalled by the move set they gave hien.

I mean I'm sure they're absolutely fine but it's just weird that it goes completely unaddressed
Especially after STB tried to make such a big deal out of them as characters

While its still kinda sad how they have such basic movesets the idea of this fight was great.
Having to hold out while the warrior of light is coming to help was a great idea. It really made me feel like the warrior was as big a deal as they should be at this point. Also that your SB group wasn't just a group of pushovers.
Some Kino shit honestly, looking forward to more story content.

Since the big story isn't "omg the leaders of Doma and Ala Mhigo got rolled" but "omg the Warrior of Light got beat by Zenos!" I assume they're okay.

But fuck am I mad at Crystalfag for that anyway. Yeah, give me a seizure in the middle of the last fight just to ask if I got your fucking UPS package and now all Eorzea thinks I'm the Jobber of Light. Fucking asshole.

last last patch was pretty underwhelming overall. made worst since we knew we were going to the 1st. It would have been better if the patch released before the fanfest

He knew Estinien was out lurking. Still, he could have been more clear instead of being vague and saying "throw wide the gates"

Who are the most powerful npcs? Estinien? Any job quest people who arn't total jobbers?

Gaius seems to have gotten pretty top tier if he's collecting Ascian scalps with nothing but his gunblade.

Wait, Zenos is back? I knew he was alive in that elezen body but he's back to being an active villain?

He'll be the WoL of the Source while WoL becomes the WoD for the 1st

play the game, retard.

or, y'know, its a customization option

durrrrrrrrrr

weapon damage > gcd > crit

I would like to hope Thancred and Yshtola arn't jobbers now, especially after the trailer made Thancred look sick as fuck, but who knows

Fuck you I'm in the middle of catching up, I only started the SB patch content last night. What's all this stuff about different worlds and needing to be warriors of darkness?

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I could just tell you everything, but wouldn't you rather just watch the main story yourself?

it was in HW

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I guess this means they're alive at least?

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You remember the Warriors of Darkness from Heavensward, right?
When Urianger looked like he was double crossing us to help them but actually was playing some mad 4D chess?
Okay well Hydalyn apparently fucked up at actually fixing their world so now we need to go and do it so it doesn't totally start fucking us by having Sin Eaters hopping over to the first like Voidsent

Ninja is broken in alliance raids. If you have 6 or more of them then you have infinite trick attack uptime if everyone times their abilities properly.

Are we including gag stuff? Manderville family. You know that'll eventually culminate in an Ultimate Hildibrand fight that makes pre-nerf AV look like a joke

I know, how could I forget not-EMIYA yelling at me for twenty minutes? But does that mean we're doing the same thing he did now?

BLM has Shatotto and DRK has yourself.

>Okay well Hydalyn apparently fucked up at actually fixing their world
I think you mean Minfilia

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>Hydalyn
Is it actually loli Minfilia or loli Hydealyn ?

what's worse, furries or trannies?

>rewatched shb trailer a dozen times
So this is what the kino meme is about...

Built for tanking.

>I will suck up all the Light in this world!
She probably accidentally got stabbed in the boob and it all leaked out which is why she's a loli. End of the ShB MSQ and she'll suck up all the light and have titties beyond the realm of comprehension

>Implying flooding their shard with light isn't exactly what hydaelyn wants.

Furry trannies.

Fannies...

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Hydaelyn got enough power from the Crystals of Light to no longer need Minfilia as the Voice. It was independant Minfilia that went to the 1st.

I can't help but feel as though they went a little over the top there. Unless they wanted to make it look like everything you've done in comparison has been child's play.

Isn't that counter productive tho?
Light filled worlds, like the 13th World of Darkness, can't be rejoined.
Unless she's doing it to try spite Zodiark but I thought they both wanted the rejoining? Unless I remembered wrong and it's gonna turn out that Hydalyn is a scortched earth type villain whee she wants to fucking nuke every world with light so Zodiark can never rejoin the shards.

yes. by doing all those good things like killing primals, asciens and liberating doma and ala mhiggo, a flood of light was slowly occuring. The 1st symptom was back in ARR where they noticed aether thinning in the black shroud.

did you rike it?

youtu.be/4tyuIh12_HU

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There's a NPC somewhere that mentions that you're the one that saved then or came to their rescue or some shit. Chances are they're alive but are sitting on the side lines since the Stormblood characters just didn't have as much of an impact on the player base.

There's a reason we're rebuilding Ishgard and why Aymeric is at our bedside when we wake up. Heavensward was just so much better.

To be fair, you've never really been focused on hunting Ascians you just beat them up when they get too close to whatever you're busy doing. Someone dedicating his life to hunting them would probably achieve better results.

>Want to be both unique, but part of a hive mind community
>Inflict their fetishes on the general populace
Is there a difference between the two?

>Unless she's doing it to try spite Zodiark but I thought they both wanted the rejoining?
The rejoining only benefits Zodiark. A void world can't be rejoined. While this weakens her further, it also means Asciens wont get what they want. Even if the 1st is saved, all the asciens need to do is send in another one to stir shit up and try again

Remove Dragon Sight

>pancakes.jpg

Oh.
Makes sense then that she might just purposely be fucking up as many world as she can with light if she really believes it's "the only way" or something.

Definitely trannies. I barely see any furries on this board as it is. Trannies are all over, from GDQ to trap shitposters.

If we take what Hydaelyn has said at face value, she doesn't want the rejoining because each shard houses life and she doesn't want to kill it which is a major concern the rejoining would cause.

Maybe in 6.0.

Why?

It's a huge fucking pain to apply it in the middle of a fight, and whoever you put it on immediately runs the fuck away so you both lose it.

"How many years have come and gone since that day?"
Which day is he referring to?
The time we fight Elidizenos, or the time we did the Crystal Tower?

The last time you cleared Titan EX in a pug

That day you went from being the warrior of light to the warrior of darkness

Crystal Tower more likely. Zenos wouldn't make much sense there.

You don't lose the buff, only the person you used it on. Also it's not that hard to apply. Put the guy you want to use it on on focus and bind a key to focus target if you're not used to using the F keys to select teammates.

It looks like the other worlds are "ok" its just that the Asciens are messing with the worlds in order to weakening them enough to rejoin. Igeyorhm was too god at her job and the 13 shard turned into The Void we know. The WoL were too good and now its slowly becoming a void of light. I doubt she wants a void world to happen, but 7 worlds were already rejoined and she's really weak while zodiark is growing stronger

>Do you have any hopes for your favorite class in shadowbringers?
Let me manifest Frey during battle as a dark knight, give me a fucking stand

I want a new fucking crafting or gathering class. We've been ignored for too god damn long.

Heroic villain. In the sense he's going to take back his birth right from ascian subhumans, but for the purpose of bitch slapping you.

Dark Shadow: All actions are doubled for 15 seconds, including cooldowns, and all attacks are doubled

Stop being a casual. The challenge level of content you're at(where people run away from it and you consider applying it a "huge pain") obviously doesn't require it anyway though.

Put it on the healer. They're never going to move away from the boss's butt unless they have to.

Do you think he'll be sad or happy the next time we beat him to death?

>alive in that elezen body
He's a hyur now

I want some water and ice spells, but I don't know how you would add anything to RDM without fucking up it's flow. Maybe make them DoTs with long cast times like Thunder/Aero

Are you blind?

Trannies are (slightly) worse but they're a self-correcting problem. Furries have way bigger numbers and will infest any community if you allow them to.

gee I wonder who's behind this post

Make it a toggle instead and it costs HP to keep it active, they want to make DRK primarily an off tank after all

You haven't played through all the story patches have you

No they don't. PLD and DRK will be main tanking in 5.0.

Post a screenshot of this Hyur then.

Currently main a DRG and love it but would like some variety to offer in group content. What 3 jobs are more fun to play?
>DRK or PLD
>RDM or MCH
>WHM or AST

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PLD, RDM, AST

PLD > DRK
RDM > MCH
AST > WHM

MNK

what the hell would they add to gather that the other three dont already do, and what would get crafted that the current 8 dont do?

PLD, DRK if you like pressing buttons
RDM
AST

Are there any decent SMN books? They all look so boring and samey. Wish they would get a new weapon but I know it'll never happen.

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I’m level 50, how long am I gonna have to grind to get to the Matsuno and Yoko Taro content? I just started school and I’m worried it might not be possible.

>DRK (I'm in the minority on this though)
>RDM
>AST
Why is Bocchi so fucking perfect

The PvP books are decent.

Here's a few quick FACTS for you Yea Forums:
>1. Lalafell are the most powerful race in the world
>2. Lalafell are the cutest race
>3. All of Eorzea is rightful Lalafell clay
>4. Lalafell are Hydaelyn's chosen people

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Mimesis Lux

DRK
MCH
AST

A couple of weeks if you do it normally.

Within a week if you do boring, repetitive content like PotD or HoH.

Is that like cumulative weeks or

I'm at work
In the final story patch Zenos is on the battlefield at Ghimlyt Dark and gets accosted by a hyur imperial soldier that he kills, then he starts talking about taking back what's rightfully his as he walks over to the dead soldiers body and the camera focuses on it
You're going to screech how that doesn't mean he took the soldiers body but that will just expose you as being an even bigger brainlet than you are now since this game isn't subtle with its story telling

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I wonder who could be behind this post...

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lmao imagine playing as a potato created by Allagans, probably for the purpose of being hunted as game.

Lalafell are naturally born evil and Ul'dah is the proof. The only reason Pipin is so good is because he was adopted and raised by a hyur.

Level up MCH. By the time you hit 70, you'll make it in time for it's rework. RDM is piss easy boring as it is.

He isn't, you fucknugget. He just switched gear/outfit.

It could just as easily mean he's taking the armor

Cumulative

Apocalypse Zeta, Mimesis Lux, Pyros book

5. Lalafells are literal Allagan failed experiment trash.
6. Lalafells are a beast tribe on the First world.

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>Allagans don't exist in the first shard
>Lalas do
Your memes end here

Pld is boring all the way through, DRK only gets fun at 70 and only during big pulls
All your other choices fucking suck, pick up NIN and SCH if you want to play another dps and a healer

>Allagans don't exist in the first shard

I love epic meme localizations

NIN is for players that have all the incompetence of the DRG meme, but none of the self-awareness.

Yes, he went and took hyur sized armor to wear as an elezen,

Kind of this? I just cleared The Ultimate Weapon last night and am browsing how much "postgame" shit there is I'm starting to get concerned I won't be caught up by ShB unless I just skip all the non-MSQ stuff.

SCH is the least fun healer if you actually want to heal.

One just died like half an hour ago

For gathering maybe something elemental based, focused on getting concentrated elemental ingredients and crystals and stuff.

Crafting it's harder to say, perhaps something of a master class that requires multiple leveled crafting classes and makes a smaller amount of very unique and powerful things. I just want something different.

I find it fun

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t. Brainlets

How shit can a game be if its discussed this much?

Welcome to Final FANTASY. A game that has Science-Fiction.

And you probably hate playing the other 2.

How do I keep trick attack nicely lined up? I'm messing around with ninja to give me something to do, a lot of times I end up having my mudras come back up when trick attack still has 15 seconds left. Do I just sit on it for a bit to get trick out right away or are you not supposed to do it literally every 60 seconds?

Who is actually going to play Hrothgar? They should have just done Male/Female Viera. They're basically uglier Roegadyn, and Roes already make up a tiny fraction of the population. They're just furry hunch back Roegadyn. Why waste the resources? Who is this for? Who gave them to go ahead to make this financial decision and what metrics did they use?

These are your party members for tonight.

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Yoshi literally said "this may be the last time we ever add player races, so let's do beastshit for variety"

I think the thing that always makes me quit FFXIV is that end game gear (i'm talking like actual gear not shit from roulette weeklies) in this game feels like it takes forever to get and it barely feels like it matters.

I only play for story content and then unsub.

nope, I only hate AST. That shit was never fun to play

>tfw I forgot my sub renewed today

fugggg :DDDD

>Yoshi said a bigger focus on RP options
Will this finally be the expansion they let us bang our choice of Scion?

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You appear upset.

genuinely disgusting

>Elfin Bow Discovered by the Sons of Saint Coinach amongst a cache of weapons apparently seized by the Allagan Empire during their conquest of the Three Great Continents, this particular bow is documented as having belonged to a lost race of tall, slender beings known as "Elves." Some speculation has been made as to the Elves' relationship to modern-day Elezen, yet evidence proving a definitive connection has yet to be found.

Not even the 1st was safe from the Alaggans

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This post reeks of a tranny

Admit that you want to fuck Khloe, Yea Forums. You can't fool me.

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There are shitty grunt Ascians and not just the named ones we've been dealing with, you kill off a couple of Ascian mooks in the SMN job quests. Gaius has probably only been killing the scrubby weak ones.

>Unremarkable "wholesome and safe" memespouting normalfags: the party

>give in and download the ps4 trial after all this time
>finally reached my first dungeon, had to play with others
>got 2 recommendations
>as an Archer/DPS
I feel happy, will continue playing.

Replace white mage with scholar and this is a good comp

Translation?

>all played by sweaty, grown men

Jannies ban the chloefag he always ends up dumping cp

There were *some* people who wanted Lupin playable, so we got Lions instead

forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/329385-Lupin-make-it-a-playable-race!

It's a 5.0 comp.

female lalafells are the most skilled players in the entire game

Nigga you really think someone has time to translate all of that and type it out in a post?

I would enjoy watching them all die painfully

Stop being a dirty degenerate and go back to /vg/

Every lala player I have seen only knows how to faceroll. They also get extremely angry when you tell them they've made a mistake. Only mi'qote players throw worse tantrums.

BEAST TRIBE SCUM
BACK TO YOUR DIRT HOMES

I posted one picture, you seem to have mistaken me for another.

>female lalafells are the most carried players in the entire game
The power of having a vagina.

I hate WHM players. Consistently the worst fucking faggots in the group at doing mechanics and optimizing their braindead job.

Goddamn I genuinely don't think I've had a single static with SCH + AST despite both being astronomically better and more fun to play than WHM. Easier fucking role than dedicated off-tank.

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Agreed, I leveled AST after SCH and found it a lot more engaging.

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No no, kid diddlers are all the same

So Zodiac/Anima weapons are basically irrelevant at this point, right?

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This is your tank for today

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>call out a brainlet
>REEEEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE UPSET NOT ME
Take your pill

I don't understand the new glamour system. Why do I still need prisms if I now also need these fucking plates?

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MCH is my only 70 job and I've had a blast despite its shortcomings. If the live letter at the end of the month doesnt showcase any good changes I'm just gonna move over to GUN and maybe DRG

God I hope they save MCH

Cartoon catgirls are not kids, user

The relic weapons have always been irrelevant. Just using the current tier's raid weapon is better most of the time. They're just pretty weapons to show off how much time you wasted grinding.

based trips based hrothgar

Story of my life

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One Live Letter from demolishing a Grade 1 plot in Shirogane. They can't possibly fuck up SMN and make MCH even worse can they?

I hope gunbreaker is fun. I do think making certain tanks dedicated off tanks is retarded, but oh well

Good

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SCH and SMN pets will now be on cooldowns instead of normal pets and be more bursty.

With enough whining I'm sure they'll buff them in 5.1 or 5.2

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Probably the Seventh Umbral Calamity with Louisoux solo-ing Bahamut.

SMN needs fixed. Not you don't get FF7 style cutscenes and have more damage than black mage with more support and healing power than a scholar because 'muh mp costs'

SMN's rotation shouldn't be 2 minutes long, when everyone else's are about 45 seconds or so. Should only need 1 set of aethercharges expended to get Bahamut primed up

why is MCH bad?
I've played it all this time but I don't raid or understand meta shit

The only buff SMN gets will be a accidental one intended for SCH.

It's not bad. It's just worse in its role than bard because bard is disgustingly OP with better raid buffs and better mitigation.

Overall amount of work relative to other jobs is way higher for the damage that classes like BRD can do with ease. The heat mechanic and it's ping dependency also makes it feel clunky.

it does about the same damage as Bard but is much harder to play and doesn't give the same level of utility. Overheat is also an unnecessarily obtuse mechanic

You're working 60 hours for 40 hours pay. Props to you for sticking it out

Can you imagine? Playing a race that won't even be able to visit the dwarf city? Is it possible to fathom that level of cuckoldry?

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SMN pets should be like 30 second cooldowns that do huge bursty AoE or single target damage.

He had red masks as well as the black ones

DRK > PLD. PLD is the most boring job in the game IMO
RDM > MCH. MCH is just a mess. RDM is simple but fun.
AST > WHM. It's kinda just WHM with more tools.

If they whine loud enough, they might get buffs that make them superior to BLM in every way for the majority of the expansion until the dev team wakes up and realizes their mistake at the last raid tier.

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>MCH
>amount of work
You can play MCH with your eyes closed, MCH is way easier than BRD.

That is a fictional number, user

>play NIN
I love when this happens, it means the person with the buff skill is parsing and you are getting out damaged by a fucking ninja
If you play any other dps and see the DRG tether the NIN or a AST feed them cards then you should quit in shame

There will be a Mini spell.

>trying DRG again for the first time since vanilla
It's more fun than I remember, but Heavy Thrust feels like a pointless upkeep skill now and I hope they do something about/with it in Shadowbringers.
Also I understand why so many DRGs glamour their artifact sets now, so much maiming armor looks like trash.

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Jesus christ why is pvp such bullshit
been q-ing all day long for frontlines
had about 9 matches so far, one exactly 2 (two) as maelstrom. Adders won otherwise. this shit is insufferable and got be raging. What is the fucking point of locking cool stuff behind this shit content?
Its bullshit

Im only hoping they make them fun and hopefully the same for MCH because they can't possibly screw up that job twice.

I think they could use the Bard's style of rotation. Pair up a style of Ruin with certain pets, Ifrit gets single target, Titan gets aoe and Garuda gets no cast time Ruin+dots that favors 2 targets vs true aoe

Red masks are the Overlords and Gaius had two.

13 is a real number

>but Heavy Thrust feels like a pointless upkeep skill now and I hope they do something about/with it in Shadowbringers.
Lucky for you those probably-fake skill prune leaks do nix it, along with other pointless or barely-used skills like Blizzard II and Fluid Aura
>Also I understand why so many DRGs glamour their artifact sets now, so much maiming armor looks like trash.
Yeah there's only a very few maiming sets that aren't completely terrible, and it's hard to compete with the artifacts. It's like Red Mage, you're hard-pressed to come up with a set as distinctly "dragoon" as the artifacts or specifically dragoon-oriented sets like Valerian Dragoon

Yall'dve'st getting your hopes up. Its gonna some weak shit like potency changes, pruning 2-3 useless spells and adding 1-2 new ones in their place.

I've been wanting this for ages haha
imagine an item like the firecrackers that lets us turn mini for so long or until we click off the "debuff" haha

Why do Duty queues constantly take potshots at the PCs not REALLY being that strong and needing lots of help to accomplish anything, while the story itself constantly insists you're the primary driving force of those victories and not a shitter begging for help? It almost feels like whoever is in charge of writing those blurbs has some kind of autistic bent against the idea of the players being competent

>He doesn't know the dwarf homes also function as gas chambers
Yes very sad we can't enter, now go inside lapopo cocodesu

Gaius has killed at least 2 Nabriales level Ascians. I personally think that the big twist of Shadowbringers is that Gaius is Hydelayn's new champion after you turn on her

The story NPCs make several mentions toward your 'gifted friends'. Stop skipping cutscenes.

It's less that and more the game taking the piss about itself being an MMO. "Canonically" you're borderline unstoppable (ie Bardam's Mettle being a solo proving-grounds that you walk into with three guys, and which your traveling buddies did do alone), gameplay-wise you've got three to seven buddies tagging along in every instance.

These are some of your party members for tonight

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Some of them do, but sometimes its tongue-in-cheek, like with Susano who Lyse asks if some of your talented friends are on a fishing trip nearby.

Its pretty inconsistent, and I like it as it allows autistic speculation. I fucking love autistic speculation

I'm gonna bully the fuck out of Rudder for not wearing his helmet. Iron Heart's good in my book, roe healers and casters are strangely some of the best I've ever played with

This. SMN/SCH pets should work as fairies do in PVP. They last a time and do their shit then going in CD. Also, I am still waiting for my Shiva-egi glamour.

It would be on their best tribe mount if anything.

Hrothgar are pretty gay.

whats the best way to level miner? I'm 55 and I need to be 60 asap. Also, any Ultros bros willing to help a brother out with some gil?

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weird sixsome

Befriend Iron Heart and we split from the grey parsers. in his party.

>but sometimes its tongue-in-cheek, like with Susano who Lyse
That's the only time it's presented as a joke, but people latch onto it to prove that your allies are non-canon. Every other time, they specifically ask you to gather competent allies, or mention that you're going to lead an elite group of adventurers.

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leves are the only way to level gatherers. head to Ishgard, pick them all up, and swing your pick. Don't be shy about chugging Cordial

Go find some rocks and click on them a bunch.

Depending on how autistic they are about it, it could just be because that person is doing more damage in their rotation at that time compared to everyone else. There's some kind of tool that you can feed a parse log to that'll tell you who you should be tethering each time for maximum rdps, my static tried it for shits and giggles with a couple fights we did and it recommended that the DRG tether every single other DPS and even the warrior at certain times.

so you're telling me that the warrior of light isn't a primordial force of light that can split itself into as many fragments as necessary to defeat whatever God you decide to slay?

>and better mitigation.
Eh, dismantle is better 90% of the time. It's an additional reprisal so it can fit pretty much anywhere. Troubour relies not only on the bard playing the right song at the right time but has several less uses per fight. It only really shines in those moments where you can't even hit the boss or where there is just a string of aoe going out like the beginning of O3S.

Just go mine a shit load of whatever the best selling thing in your level range is.

How do y'all deal with the RNG aspect of AST? That pushes me away from it compared to the other 2 healer classes.

that tool just say to give it to the highest dps

Does anyone want to do the ceremony just for items? not because its like a wedding or anything haha. Just for some fun haha

Whatever you do, don't forget to use survival manuals.

In Stormblood they're pretty clear that you solo'd Zenos.

Leves, and don't forget to use those gatherer or engineer manuals you can get from your Grand Company.

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thanks 4 the tips. would have like a handout tho.

There are some later-level tools to try and force yourself into having desirable cards, but it ultimately still is RNG. You deal with it by realizing that the rest of the party exists to lick your boots, being the only job that can actively bestow buffs on party members.

Isn't that mostly in the english localization?
Doesn't make any sense that Tsukuyomi would just stand there and wait for your 7 buddies to show up. And while it does make sense for you to lead an adventurer group into dungeons (like Ala Mhigo), it doesn't make sense for Zenos to let other people interfere in his battle against you.

If you want to roleplay that you're out crushing shit with an entourage of mental images ala Fray then they do leave it open enough for you to headcanon that.

I'm like 70% sure Raubahn says you're going into Ala Mhigo with a group but I could be mixing up situations.

Is Khloe up for adoption?

having fat on-demand AoE healing, benediction and OGCD shield is fun though

The roe looks like the only competent one
The lala will spam emotes to "encourage" others while doing 0 dps and not putting cards on people, the DRG and MNK won't know their rotations, do single target damage only no matter the situation, and won't hit a single positional, and the DRK will never leave grit and will respect all the content while constantly asking if everyone is ok or feeling stressed or overwhelmed
The roe looks like he gets off on the idea of stun locking massive pulls with holy

Just came back after a gap of a few years.

What's the best tank/healer/DPS? I know how much I enjoy each class, as I doubt much has changed on that front, but as to how effective they are these days, I have no clue.

If MNK is the best melee DPS don't even tell me.

And that's a good thing.

Having just played through this section again, yes, your job in Ala Mhigo is to take your adventurer friends in to kill Zenos.

Shinryu is the real question, as you'd have to have 4 extra buddies show up. I suppose they could lampshade it by saying other adventurer parties took part in the battle of Ala Mhigo and you just nab one of those as you run to the thing

>blm using manashift ever

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Levequest+Commercial exp guide. It only costs a few scrips from rowena's vendors. Use it!

She's up for "adoption", but only if you can afford her rates

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Warrior is the best tank, Scholar is the best healer, Black Mage is highest parsing dps, Bard has the most utility. Ninja is the most desired melee despite being the lowest parsing of the 4

Drk isn't a male midlander

Remember the scale of furry relativity. No matter how shit you think [thing] is, furry [thing] is that much worse.

Thus, furries.

Ideal raid comp is WAR/PLD/SCH/AST/NIN/DRG/BRD/BLM. Everyone else is shit.

>Allagans don't exist on the first shard
Show me the fucking proof, nigger. The shards diverged after a certain point, meaning until then they were one and the same, and since we're the source, that means fucking Allagans.

>Having just played through this section again, yes, your job in Ala Mhigo is to take your adventurer friends in to kill Zenos.
I think you're reading far too much into it having a "justification" for being a group dungeon, because once you're in there all of the dialogue and cutscene following don't even acknowledge the other party members exist. The mobs in the dungeon only notice the WoL, even the friendly dialogue doesn't make mention of the party as a whole. And of course, Zenos and the following primal fight is treated as wholly 1v1.

>Show me the fucking proof, nigger. The shards diverged after a certain point, meaning until then they were one and the same
The shards diverged 12,000 years ago. The 1st Umbral Era was 10,000 years ago. The Allagans came about during the 3rd Astral Era. The devs themselves at fanfest said that the First does not have Allagans.

Raubhan specifically tells you to bring your friends user

Allag rose during the Third Astral Era and the shards came apart 12k years ago

I used manashift and got 3 commends

>BLM
get a load of this guy

>be blm
>have diversion on cd
>rips aggro from tank and dies

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You didn't read a fucking single word of my post.

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Reminder that you only need the optimol raid comps if your shitters that can't win without them.
Was it the first Ultimate baha or Ultima that had a dark knight clear it? People suggested reasons and he just said he liked dark knight.

>The boss cleaves the entire raid

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Why didn't you use lucid

I don't think you have read this chain at all. Everyone knows I'm the warrior of light and everyone else are just my hypercompetent buddies. They don't need to be acknowledged, just as you don't acknowledge the npcs in Steps of Faith

>not having lucid dreaming for when you know you will take the aggro from the tank

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So did WARs cry a lot? Because so far as I recall they were top tank in HW and then got shat on and became the worst when SB came out. If they are back on top again.

>So did WARs cry a lot?
When have WARs not cried

Unironically based

Reminder that roulette heroes shouldn't have an opinion on job balance, nor what is considered "difficult"

both had dark knights but the reality is that drk is still really strong for main tanking if youre willing to use power slash and the occasional blackest night

The real crybably was SCH. They bitched so much that they got buffed to be stronger than ever in 4.1.

There's a difference between that and them literally being absent in all dialogue within the cutscenes, to the point that people explicitly point out you're alone. There being a group at all is a product of the game's design, and when it doesn't fit the moment like with Zenos and Shinryu the game decrees they're not really there.

You're way, way too stubborn about something this cut and dry.

Warriors got Inner Release, which gives them 5-6 guaranteed, no costs gauge spenders. Given that the raiding meta is dps based, the best dps tank is the best option.

And despite that, Warrior has on-demand cooldowns, the highest threat gen and a passive Convalesence if they need it, along with the super powerful Shake It Off and Holmgang

They asked for buffs even after they became insanely strong. Yoshi had to respond by saying "WAR is on a rampage" just to get WARbabbies to shut the fuck up about buffs.

I wholeheartedly admit

Dragoon is better utility than Ninja mostly due to synergy with Bard.

Praetorium has your party in most cutscenes, but Cid, Gaius etc only address you specifically. As the game is about the Warrior of Light, its how it has to be

Why? I never remember SCH being bad, not that I played it, but the general consensus during all the time I played was that they were best healer. What do they have to cry about?

user, you don't seem to realize so I'll just give you a heads-up, you're speaking with a known autistic freak. It may not really be them but they're sure emulating them so the same tactic applies: stop responding, they're obsessed with this little nitpick and will argue it to the death as if it even fucking matters.

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>being absent in all dialogue within the cutscenes
Do you expect them to have characters talk to random party members?
>to the point that people explicitly point out you're alone
When does this happen?

Not the same guy but what if I told you that it's still possible to rip boss aggro when having both of them on cd?
Take a second and think about our great community and you realize this can actually happen.

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Is there better AF then this one? This picture got me to play monk alone.

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Unless the tank is hilariously undergeared or AFK half the time (in which case the boss is going to be spinning like a top anyhow), a BLM/caster has no excuse for ripping aggro. BLM's don't even have the excuse of "but muh mp is full so I didn't want to use lucid yet"

only speedkill trannies don't like drk, drk doesn't affect rdps, only lb

Become a tank and do all your daily roulette and you get 100k+ easy.

I unironically do just for the boots

gays, furries and avid watchers of ru paul

Ah, I see it's the weekend. Time for "that happened" bullshit and other shitposting.

You a cute cat?

>When does this happen
I played through Stormblood's ending last night and post-Shinryu it gets pointed out you pulled that shit off alone

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AF3 is okay. MNK usually gets shafted in terms of AF imho.

Got a link for that leak?

SCH's state at the start of Stormblood was pitiful. Adlo cost twice as much as Cure II and had the same effective potency, Indom and Lustrate were nerfed relatively, and Excogitation got a huge boost. They had to burn a lot of MP other healers didn't to get the same effective.

After the changes and with gear, as scholars scale with crit hit must moreso than AST or WHM, scholars can usually just get away with Aethercharge healing which effectively gives Scholar infinite MP for dps

I did that in orbonne. On Agrias, took aggro right before thunder slash, tried to dump aggro but turns out once you're marked, it'll follow you. I was playing DRG

SMN's Heavensward set

ASTs first set.

No image handy but I have it in text form courtesy of a copy-paste from GameFAQs
- Hide (ROG/NIN)
- Blood for Blood (LNC/DRG)
- Riot Blade (GLA/PLD)
- Sword Oath (PLD)
- Trick Attack (ROG/NIN)
- Barrage (ARC/BRD)
- Blizzard II (THM/BLM)
- Refresh (Ranged)
- Dark Arts (DRK)
- Heavy Thrust (LNC/DRG)
- Wildfire (MCH)
- Jugulate (ROG/NIN)
- Aetherflow (ACN/SMN/SCH)
- Physick (ACN/SMN/SCH)
- Thrill of Battle (MRD/WAR)
- Freeze (BLM)
- Fists of Earth (PGL/MNK)
- Fists of Wind (PGL/MNK)
- Fists of Fire (MNK)
- Diversion (Melee/Caster)
- Lucid Dreaming (Healer/Caster)
- Protect (Healer)
- Synastry (AST)
- Fluid Aura (CNJ/WHM)

>the rest of your party canonically fails the QTE

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>third frontline win of the day after doing nothing all day but play pvp
am I gonna make it Yea Forumsros

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>tfw had no idea lalai was female until shattoto possessed her

kek

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>Protect (Healer)
Huh?

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>BLM dashes to you to be in range of Cure III and Asylum

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You shouldn't do non MSQ stuff on your first class anyways. Save it for the others. MSQ alone is enough to level cap you.

Plus the side quests in this game are fucking awful honestly. Not even that great for xp. Don't know why they waste the resource on them. Some MMO quota design bullshit.

The people who play SCH don't like to actually heal. Whenever there's any change that makes them press a green button they go fucking crazy. Just wait and see for yourself in a month.

They got one of the best AF weapons for Stormblood hands-down though, the only other one I like as much is Ryunohige for DRG

Role actions in general are going away and Yoshida's expressed disdain for Protect before, something along the lines of it being a lucky-charm for whatever instance you were in with no real thought or intent behind its use

highlander fella lookin for lo- I mean items

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You have until October.

Just do feast

Protect should be reworked, not removed.
It needs to work as a raid barrier like Shake it off instead of a 30 minutes shit you always need to put on.

Protect does nothing and is just a waste of space.

weaver af2

>use diversion on pull
>dps so garbage blm climbs to 2nd eminity anyways
>tank doesn't use cd so dies to tb
>boss goes to blm
>lucid dreaming
>tank gets raised and provokes boss
>gets zero heals, dies again
>boss back to blm because half the party is already dead as well
yes it's cherry picked as fuck and doesn't happen every day but it does actually happen.
maybe play the game and find out?

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Good luck bro, I’m also looking for a mount if you know what I mean.

>TA getting removed
God, could you imagine. There's almost no way they'd actually buff NIN's personal DPS enough to compensate so it'd just be a dead class.

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>tfw discord friend is a GM
>tfw he loves to action on any reports of blm “griefing”

Blizzard wizards are a legitimate offense guys

Sure if you're on Odin.

The four billion prisms thing is confusing. Do I need these things still? I just came back last week and messed with the plates for the first time. They don't use all the specialized prisms?

That makes a lot more sense now. I kinda hope they make it so good that people instantly dies to mechanics without Protect so there's more pressure on the healers.

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Thwy should have made it like the pvp version back in 4.0.

They would just put the damage debuff onto suiton or something, I imagine

Not necessarily, they could probably rebind its effects to Suiton and it'd just be less padding to get to Trick's effects. I'm more concerned about Hide since that sucks for flavor but I guess they could make it a job-specific extra action like Bard's music.

And my dad is YoshiP

>NIN in the cuckshed
Imagine.

You use prisms to place an item in the dresser.
They standardized the prisms. You can trade in all the old types in Mor Dhona for the new standard prism.

>tfw you once wiped on Alexander because a shitty healer refused to heal your party because they were offended by use of the phrase "eat the balls"
>tfw you found out later on Twitter your healer was Brianna fucking Wu

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>it's a "wiping on Agrias because one of the tanks thinks it'd be funny to steal aggro right before the cleave" episode
Really getting tired of this shit

Specialized prisms can be turned into NPCs for the global-purpose prisms they were replaced with, if for some reason you still have any.

You spend a prisom to put the item into the dresser. After that you can glamour it from a plate as much as you want for free.

Not really, you wanna marry a chocobo or something?

>no real thought or intent behind it's use
It's a fucking 30m buff what the fuck does he expect people to do with it? Just not use it? Does he want the tanks to thank their healer for shaving that tiny amount of damage off enemy attacks or something? What the fuck?

You can use prisms (which are one size fit all now) just like you always could.

In addition, you can use one Prism to put a piece of gear into the glamour dresser, then apply that glamour to a plate and use it infinitely

Aight, thanks lads.

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>DA
Please god please. DRK is my fave aesthetically and i'm still sticking with it, but god am I tired of DA'ing Soul Eater

Man, I dunno, he didn't like Protect in the first place. Last I heard it only slipped under the radar because the rest of the dev team wanted it, being a classic spell.

It should be made WHM exclusive and changed into the PvP version.

>aetherflow
Uh what.

Where do I get the new prisms and plates?

Protect used to last 5 minutes not 30 I don't get why they changed it to that instead of just removing it it was a stupid as fuck change at the time

Quick, how would you fix RDM?

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>another episode of monk delusion
It's all fake bullshit anyway

That was Ramuh you dumb fuck
>I do actually play on the same server and am on friendly terms with one of the people that were in that party

Hide is actually fucking useful, if they get rid of it they're fucking dumb. Resetting your ninjitsu CD is super useful since it lets you put on Huton, then Hide while the tank pulls and cancel it right away so you can cast another ninjitsu with the reset. Every single Ninja player with an IQ over room temperature does this.

Or it means the DRG is a dipshit using a macro

Probably Arcanist is getting reworked and that'll ripple-effect down to the two jobs

There's nothing to fix, RDM is perfectly fine as it is

I'm sure.

>hide
nice joke, mark

Some guy posted greyed out images of skills on Yea Forums, it's bullshit.

Woah, you got aggro on a wipe, huh? Holy shit user. What the fuck.

the only one of these I'm really against are Wildfire and Physick for Scholar. They'd need togive MCN a new gimmick, and I reallyprefer using Physick over Adlo to top off people who aren't the MT and aoe isn't appropriate

You automatically have 10 glamour plates with no way to get more. Prisms can be bought with gil, company seals or crafted. If you have the old prisms, there is an npc in Revenant's Toll that will exchange them for the modern one size fit all

NOOOO I NEED MY FREE HUTON CAST

>get rid of Hide
>Rogue questline becomes uncompletable

>Yoshida's expressed disdain for Protect before
Last I heard was that Protect almost got removed in 4.0 and that he prevented that.
>tiny amount
It's flat 15% dmg negation for 30min. I consider every healer that doesn't reapply it after a death an idiot.

Change Embolden to increase party magical damage, and give them a Refresh spell on top of Mana Shift. And Demi-Ultima.

You can tell when it's going to happen before you even get to Mustadio

Dude trust me.

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No my man it was def Alexander. I don't remember which part it is in particular but it's the one with the floating orbs you have to walk over. Did she fuck over parties like that more than once?

I don't really care which, i want to fuck her anyway.

>WAR, SCH, NIN, BRD could all be in the shed in ShB
God please let it happen.

>Hide is actually fucking useful
not really. with a countdown timer going for pre-cast, there is no reason for hide's ninjutsu reset.

it's true it's gone

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>They'd need togive MCN a new gimmick,
Say no more, brother.

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>she

no, it’s fucking needed for the rouge and ninja quests, you absolute retard

VerUltima*

BLU gets Ultima and Akh Morn

>get rid of Hide
>make it a duty-action like all the Omegascape-specific raid actions when needed
>dab on everyone saying it couldn't possibly get removed because it's necessary for class-quests

>Tank stone vigil
>Do it sloppily since it's my first time tanking it and I've tanked for a collective like 5 hours total (Keep having Aevises join the mob pack afterwards, some of the multi pulls are sloppy and weird)
>Apologize for it
>Everyone is nice and gives me 3 commends since apparently they've had bad tanks all day and I was somehow still the best one since I actually used cooldowns and swapped Oaths during bosses and never lost aggro

damnit just call me out on being bad I want to improve
i can't even be mad at them

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>BLU gets Ultima from O8S
I could dig it

>posting the extra fake one some triggered NIN made

>he thinks BLU will ever get to level 70

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dunno I got df suspended once for spamming fire3 blizzard3 back and forth for an entire dungeon

GUYS FELL CLEAVE IS GETTING REMOVED, YOU CAN BELIEVE IT BECAUSE I'M A FUCKING RANDOM user WITH NO PROOF

>ninja player lashing out in fear at the mere thought of their one-trick ticket to getting carried in raids getting taken away
lmao

wasn't it mentioned in the lore somewhere that each calamity is a sign that another Shard was destroyed/rejoined? If so, shouldn't that image have several crystal's check-marked or is that just a representation of us going to the First?

It will, in 7.0

>Rescue not on the chopping block

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If it's a bit sloppy but you don't get anyone killed/don't go slow as fuck it's still good.

I mean, swapping oaths low level isn't a huge deal since you still are relying on your threat combo to dps. Later you actually have dps moves.

>wasn't it mentioned in the lore somewhere that each calamity is a sign that another Shard was destroyed/rejoined?
Yes, the reason Calamities happen is to weaken the dimensional barrier so the Ascians can smash a world back into place.
>If so, shouldn't that image have several crystal's check-marked or is that just a representation of us going to the First?
It just means we're going to the First yeah.

>Blizzard II
Would anyone really miss this awkward piece of shit skill?

I did it, lads. After 134 hours I'm finally done with all the ARR MSQ stuff. Now I can finally start Heavensward.

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Rescue is great. I allows me to kill people I don't like by pulling them into aoe.

It's a representation of us going to the first shard.

I stopped playing for quite a while now but I've always wanted to play tank. I didn't because I don't like axes so WAR was out, PLD with those 5x holy sucked and DRK dark arts spam was boring as fuck.
I do hope they either rework DRK into a fun playstyle or the gunblade job is acutally fun to play.

The OCD autists coming on board will wonder why it goes from Blizzard straight into Blizzard 3

lifegrip ain't going anywhere, and I love it.

>wasn't it mentioned in the lore somewhere that each calamity is a sign that another Shard was destroyed/rejoined?
With the Warriors of Darkness they expressed an attempt to chain Calamities together ASAP so that they could rejoin the shards much more quickly than planned. A Calamity is a weakening of dimensional walls separating the shards, and they were trying to save their world by rejoining it (and merging their Lifestreams as a result) before it had a chance to be lost to light. They aren't rejoined, but they are brought closer together.

Enjoy, HW is one of the best FF games to come out in years

Those Aevises at the start are weird even if you know what you're doing. Sometimes they'll just randomly aggro on the healer while you're still fighting the pack way out in the hallway.

Have fun user~

Why the FUCK is fluid aura still in the FUCKING GAME???

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I skipped all the text and cutscenes.

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whm can't have nice things though

Going to get into this game when I repair my pc. I've watched class/job videos, and monk and bard sound fun. Are they good?

It has some uses in eureka.

>They aren't rejoined, but they are brought closer together.
Seven have already been rejoined and are gone.

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Yes to both.

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HW's intro cinematic is one of the best.

>skipping one of the best cutscenes in the entire game

youtube.com/watch?v=_19dLMMl7Y4

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>it's another monk playing thinking they would ruin the perfect balance to have now so he can live his revenge fantasy

Leave, scum

>localizer renames the Ara/Aga skills to 2/3 "to avoid confusion"
>as a result we get dumbfuck black mages spamcasting Fire 3 because obviously Spell 3 is a straight upgrade to Spell 1/2!
Great job fuckface.

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>15%
Is it really that much?

Frontlines can be fun if you get an alliance that actually cooperates and isn't pants on head retarded. Queueing solo kind of sucks especially if there are any premade parties running Frontlines.

I'm sad that I lost my Frontline Linkshell when the servers split. It was nice running with people that actually gave a damn about winning because we all want the gear and mounts.

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The people who level exclusively POTD and say its mana efficient AoE.
I wish I could say I was joking or it was just one person

Level 37 BLM here
Am I not supposed to be spamming Fire 3? I figured the potency difference outweighed the Cast time since I don't have Firestarter yet

bullshit that literally doesn't happen. just like "ice mages" a bogeyman that exists only in Yea Forums's head

I just started leveling a thamaturge (level 11) and not really enjoying the Umbral ice and Astral fire thing.

Also any tips for a new player? I plan on getting to black mage then Red Mage as well when I reach it and then I think that Scholar and Summoner look cool as well

The metric fuckton of text and cutscenes would've extended the time it took me to finish the ARR MSQ by god knows how long. I also started this character in 2014. Even if I did want read every bit of text, the huge breaks I've taken mean not remembering anything anyways.

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a costs two fire 1s to cast a single fire 3 for a +20 potency
work it out

How was it in 4.0? I dont remember

Fire 3 is only used to instantly jump into maxed Astral Fire. Fire is your main damage spell until you get Fire IV.

Nah I've seen one, but it is overblown. Its a easy thing to meme on. I havn't seen it since ARR tho.
There also used to be these fucking clowns that didn't equip job stones because they thought it was better to have all of the cross class skills.
Never underestimate MMO players.

>It's flat 15% dmg negation
That's literally not how protect works you mong. It's not a flat "%" mitigation, it scales with your defence stats, which means it's weaker in Sastasha and stronger at level 70 (same applies to gear). It doesn't calculate to exact 15%.

Only use the 3 spells to swap your fire/ice buffs.

>they will make ninja useless for no reason hahahahaha!!!
No, they want all jobs to be useful, except whm.

>tfw you can't play roid-rage Marauder in PvP anymore
That was some fun bullshit and I miss it.

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>He cant zip back to his ley lines
You ARE a Blm correct?

>134 hours
>skipped all the text and cutscenes
Retard or ERPing Filfth, which is it?

It is the only water ability conjurer has. They use earth/air/water and thaumaturge uses fire/ice/lightning

It's like the six elements and the two classes each have 3 for some reason.

youtube.com/watch?v=LWa8kpUU9uY

Oh God I had no idea
I just figured it was better to use 3 until I had Firestarter then go back to 1
Won't be doing that again

Wasn't being a base class a thing for early PVP thoug? I remember hearing people talking about it being efficient for some reason or another but never looked into it or pvp enough to notice.

Ninja will still have it's niche as an enmity manager when TA gets nerfed, don't worry. :^)

Why would you recommend anyone go there? You are literally being aids just by linking that.

Fire 3 to get the astral buff then fire 1 all the way because you can cast it more times than fire 3 and the cast time is shorter. Blizzard 3 when out of mana and then Fire 3 again to get the astral buff.

Back when I started playing the game in 2014 or whenever it was, before Heavensward, I played with a couple friends and did every single sidequest I came across as I played through the MSQ. Also spent time doing other things. Also long queues sometimes because DPS.

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>shade making up for losing 1000 rdps
:^^^))))
keep dreaming mnkey.

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It might have been, the people I was talking about did it in normal dungeons. I joined a dungeon once and saw a level 50 lancer and later a pugilist.
Some real basketcases

Marauder with all the cross-class buffs was a monster in PvP due to fucking Raging Strikes existing along with Blood for Blood and Internal Release, plus large chunks of the class's functionality not being locked behind the job stone yet.

unironically ninja's job-fantasy lies in its ninjutsu, not trick attack. with hanzo using the unknown combinations of the fourth mudra and other jobs getting radical redesigns i can see them scrapping trick in favor of the fourth mudra, maybe rebinding the vulnerability-up debuff to some other ninjutsu or a four mudra combination, and giving us more ninjutsu tools to play around with

Switching between ice and fire gets better once you have Fire/Blizzard 3, until then it's kinda annoying

>everyone who hates ninjas is a monk player
It's hilarious how rent-free they live in your tiny brains

hw is why ill likely never play ffxiv again. how do you top perfection?
you messed up

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this is another issue they need to address. Fire 1-4 have the wrong names. And no, Fire, Fira, Firaga and Firaja aren't going to fix it.

Needs to be Fire, Blast (Fire 2), Meltdown (Fire 3) and something else for Fire 4. I think Blast feels right for a name for an aoe ability, and Meltdown works for Fire 3 as the FF8 version increased damage taken by the target

if the game is to be 'entry level mmo player friendly', the names of abilities need to be intuitive so players can figure out rotations without having to perform them

OBSESSED

Benison is a water ability, at least visually

why cant players get that hairstyle

Why would any other job would hates ninja?

Nah

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That's a horrible idea, them forcing NIN to do fucking 4 mudra combos would just make it even more of a GCD-clipping nightmare than it already is for everyone who doesn't live right next to the server rooms.

>it's another episode of scum of earth being ingrate to their ninja.

if they ever give us the fourth mudra ninjas everywhere might have to commit sudoku at being forced to commit time to their biggest-dick effects

>The novel will never be translated

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The 4th Mudra could just be an alternate finisher button.

your ESL is showing, samefag-kun.

No, I'm a WHM

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Dude with all his gatherer 70 here
Do collectable.
It's comfy, give you a lil bit of money and get you a load of exp.

This is so out of place I literally can't even

Ten-Chi-Jin is already bad enough for that, what an awful skill they designed.

>play ninja
>everyone hates you
Guess I'll play sam

BLM sucks untill you get enochian at lvl 60 (I think?) because then you get acess to Fire 4/Blizzard 4 and it's actually engaging trying to mantain the enochian buff up while squeezing your most powerful spells. The leveling really sucks and there's nothing you can do about it because you don't have any combos and 99% of the time you'll be spamming fire 1.
Honestly I found out that RDM became boring after a little while because the rotation is braindead, even though some people may argue that optimizing RDM isn't that simple. SMN while it was my least favourite of the 3 became my favourite because of bahamut and the mobility even though its clunky as fuck.

Why do you not respect ninja players?

LITTLE SUN?!

As long as it loves me.

it's okay. they laugh now. they won't be laughing when they get ice bound and destroyed by your team in pvp.

Meltdown deals non elemental damage in ff8.

>pvp
LOL

and? Flare is AOE in this game and its single target everywhere else. Meltdown is a fine name for a powerful Fire spell. Its also in FF6

Sounds stupid
Fire
Big Fire
BIGGER Fire
Enochian Fire

BECAUSE YOU NEVER LB YOU MOTHERFUCKING SEA MONKEY

WE FALL
WE FALL

Flare was aoe in 2.

It's always funny to see people who don't know jackshit about a job and still give their opinion.

Anyone who think that 4.0 (and I DO mean 4.0, not 4.X) SCH was anything but a trashfire deserve a goddamn slap in the face.

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But I do you dumb inconsiderate faggot, show some appreciation.

I submit that FF2 was actually a proto-Saga game and as such doesn't count!

Though if we're going the FF2 route I want fucking Exit, screw Ultima

>get Enochian at lvl 56
>no Fire IV or Blizzard IV to use with it

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Did they release the new class skills? Is BLU fun? I haven't played this game since the start of stormblood but I'm thinking about paying a month to catch up.

Anyone else like to just drive around rhalgr's in the Regalia and pretend they're running everyone over while making impact sound effects with your mouth?

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Going by FF2 you wouldn't get Ultima anyway since it's white magic there.

Sucking my dick along with the rest of the party is all the gratification you'll get.

No, no.

>Did they release the new class skills?
In two weeks.
>Is BLU fun?
No, it's a gutted abomination relegated to the minigame cuckshed because according to the devs it's impossible to balance.

Then the drg can do it.

No, I'm not autistic, thanks for asking.

Have sex
This guy fucks

BLM leveling really sucks, it's night and day from 30 to 60, even more at 70 now with the triple cast and between the lines.

no, but i do that in eureka instead
you're alright user

>Did they release the new class skills?
Not yet, no benchmark 'til later in the month
>Is BLU fun?
Depends on if you're fine with it being side-content, there's the absolute germ of a balanced job in there that throws it being limited into question but then there's stuff like having Doom or Peculiar Light or a tank-stance. I enjoyed it but it didn't hold my attention past the Masked Carnivale outside of using Self-destruct for free Return casts. Ask around in-game for a bigger breadth of opinions on BLU, Yea Forums's hivemind is that Hitler himself programmed it and then killed their dog and Yoshida betrayed them

Get to it, bottom bitch.

>Yea Forums's hivemind is that Hitler himself programmed it and then killed their dog and Yoshida betrayed them
All factually true

This or OSRS? Got no friends in either.

I saw Yoshida burning a cross made out of two Blue Mage canes in my yard last night

Why not both?

WAR is a dps.
MNK should be changed to a tank class.

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There's more to ninja than lb and trick.

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They have Raiton too

Both are big timesinks.

>They make MNK a tank
>They forget to remove his positional requirements

Wrong, get to fellating my DPS stick, slut.

We never raiton...

Yeah, in overworld content they make farming crafting materials much easier.

That's true. They also have Shadewalker.

Sure, you've got Shade too

I don't play SMN much anymore, but I got Tsukuyomi's book and was amused at how long it is.

>short pale skinned pink haired viera
disgusting
absolutely vile

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>we never [free dps]
Eh

Fuma is better.

>the majority of Viera are going to be short and pale
Why do the people who play this game have to have such shit taste?

Fuma is literally the pinglet option.

Raiton is a DPS loss even on japanese ping

Even nip use fuma.

Fuma benefits from NIN's slashing debuff and physical damage up traits, it's so close to raiton's potency that it really isn't worth it if it'll even slightly clip your gcd.

I like using it if mudra comes up when I'm forced off the boss though.

>there are greylets in this very thread

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Is Fuma actually better? Honest question.

Fuma gets +30% extra damage from Ninja's passive and slashing debuff.

>being this much of a brainlet

Trolling?

In most cases, yes. But you use Raiton with Kassatsu