Post games where they respect the difference between these magical creatures. Below i will post some examples:

But that's because there's no fungi type and all the fungi like moves are grass type. I know what you mean but that was a bad example

The most intelligent kind

Crossbreed

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>This is not correct and it's a blatant mistake.
yes it is. "Dragon" comes from a greek work that just means serpent, so that "Wrym" is just as much a dragon as that 6 legged fag. Additionally, the only ones that did the whole "wyvern" thing were the English, who also weren't consistent and called things without any wings wyverns still.

Your arbitrary classification system for fake lizards is fucking dumb.

youtu.be/0PlwDbSYicM?t=919

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more like cutefeet

FFXIV has an entire expansion full of all types of dragons

Forget it. You’re dealing with Reddit incarnate.

yes it is correct, not yes it is a mistake. Either way, OP is some dumb wannabe intelectual that just goes off poorly researched "ahktually" videos.

what do we call bug dragons

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I can't recall the last time I saw a Lindwrum or Wrym in a game.

Can someone post some examples?

that's a sliver user

Faggets

>Good Example: Dragon's Dogma
Wanna know how i can tell you never played the game?

I was about to point this out.
Grigori is a 10/10 though.

i never saw these types of dragons in a game
they're not popular i guess

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Feels bad.

That Lindwrum would be horrifying in a tunnel/cave setting.

This is true. The people who believed the mythologies often didn't even know what they were talking about, but in modern society we can categorize mythological creatures in ways that make sense and have a general consensus of their characteristics. Like you can't call a dwarf a fairy anymore even though back then they were considered fairies.

Amphiptere-bug?

Yeah autism is more prevalent in modern societies.

>Grigori is a 10/10 though
undoubtedly, i'd even say he's the best dragon in vidya
But then you also have 3 types of dragon (4 leg 2 wings) that are called Drake, Wyvern and Wyrm in the same game

Autism is having more intelligence than a bunch of stupid medieval people?

this is your argument?

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my dragonbook of choice says that lindwurms can have 4 legs as well. they are just very small

if people started calling orks undead I am pretty sure that even normies would complain about that so I never understood the big deal of respecting dragon lore as well

>the distinct name in German heraldry for our four-footed dragon is the Lindwurm
>In Norwegian heraldry a lindorm is the same as the wyvern in British heraldry.
lol

For me, it's the fae dragons

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And now look at this "Wyvern"

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That's a ugly Wyvern

Thanks for the lecture on Dragon identity politics. Also they don't exist and I call them whatever the fuck I want.

>you can't call a dwarf a fairy
Sure you can, retard
>even though back then they were considered fairies
Back when? By whom?

I think the term wyvern/dragon in this context determines the level of animalistic traits, for example Grigori has intelligence, a will, desire etc while this scaly boy merely followis his instinct therefore he is a wyvern

You can call them whatever you want. That doesn't mean you're correct.

Serpent dragon>tortoise dragons.

>That doesn't mean you're correct.
Neither is OP.

The difference between dragons and all the others is actually quite significant.

All the other kinds have biological grounds to exist realistically. Which is: No more than 4 limbs. Just like every animal on earth.

Dragon's on the other hand have 6 limbs, sometimes more. It signifies that they are something higher than an animal.

That's why in Monster Hunter only Elder Dragon's have more than 4 limbs. At least since I last played it.

"Wyverns are very similar to dragons, and in many languages, cultures and contexts no clear distinction is made between the two. Since the sixteenth century, in English, Scottish, and Irish heraldry, the key difference has been that a wyvern has two legs, whereas a dragon has four. However, this distinction is not commonly observed in the heraldry of other European countries, where two-legged dragon-like creatures being called dragons is entirely acceptable."

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Not "some cultures".
Only Britain made a distinction.
Everyone else didn't.

This is all kinds of dumb.

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no such thing

>Just like every animal on earth
>what are invertebrates

good guess but actually no
all 3 of the lesser dragonkin look the same except their colour
this is a drake for comparison

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so this whole dragon vs wyvern discussion exists thanks to the bongs?

Why not? Different types of dragons are always welcome in vidya

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The good ol' "dragon's are the biggest everything else is smaller"

This. Every time I get some chucklefuck online who asspulls that arbitrary "distinction" I cite the painting " Saint George and the Dragon" as evidence of their plebbit faggotry.

Everyone has forgotten the Drakentaurs

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The lesser dragons in DD are actually pretty small.

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maybe because they're humanoid

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Dragons with 6 limbs make no sense.
There are no reptiles in nature with 6 limbs.
In fact, nothing except INSECTS or ARACHNIDS, or other arthropods.

This means that Dragons with six limbs are impossible.
They'd need to have descended from the Arthropod lineage, which means they'd have external shells instead of skeletons and would all be invertebrates.
Where are the six limbed flightless dragon ancestors?
If you want them to have six limbs, they need to have six-limbed ancestors going back to the Paleozoic/Mesozoic.

Instead, dragons with more than 4 limbs should resemble insects:
Invertibrate
External chitinous skeletons
No brains, basal ganglia only
Simple intelligence
Insect-like wings

This would actually help explain the dragon's fire-breathing, too, since the insect world actually HAS fire-breathers.

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yes, and only after the 15th century or so, when they came up with it the distinction for the purpose of heraldry, so when you told a guy "hey draw me a cool dragon on my crest" you didn't end up with something other than what you wanted. But all other cultures did it differently, like I said in , and like with the bongs, it was just for the purpose of making it clear what was the symbol. In more casual contexts, nobody actually cares.
Also, a funny thing: Dragon comes from the Greek "Drakos", serpent. Wyvern comes from the french form of the latin word Vipera, viper.
Both words just mean snake.

>humanoid
I don't think you know the meaning of the word

>make a wyvern
>call it a wyvern
ok then

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ok. so they have ancestors with six limbs. we’re making all of this up, so that details is pretty easy to add. happy now?

The difference between wyverns and dragons is that most people will understand what you mean when you use the terms appropriately. That's all that language is.
If you say "dragon" with no other detail, people in the west will generally assume 4 legs + wings, so that's the the typical definition of dragon, but people in the east will think of flying snakes with stubby legs and whiskers, or if you say dragon but depict a big scaly firebreathing monster minus one pair of legs or without wings they won't get confused, so it can also apply to those definitions correctly, just not as commonly. This means that you can call basically whatever you want "dragon" and be correct, but depending on the circumstances it is still possible to be incorrect if by doing so you introduce confusion.
However "wyvern" is more specific. In general, if you say wyvern people will assume two legs + wings flying lizard thing. You can use the term to apply to anything you want, but it will confuse people unless you properly introduce them to the definition you're using, so using "wyvern" to apply to things that aren't the standard definition of wyvern is more likely to be incorrect than using dragon to apply to non-standard dragons.

Think of it like the word "hammer." A mallet can be called a hammer, but if you ask someone to pass you "that hammer" and they could pass you either a rubber mallet or a claw hammer, the claw hammer is the "correct" answer despite the term being able to apply to both objects. At the same time, a bit of wood or a wrench or your shoe can also be a hammer, but the ability to use the term hammer to apply to those is heavily dependent on circumstances and while in some cases it can be correct to call your shoe a hammer most of the time doing so will introduce confusion and therefor be incorrect.

tll;dr linguistics autism post more dragons

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>some bongs in medieval bongistan classify dragons on totally arbitrary grounds because dragons don't exist
>now pepole have to endure this autism
In my local town a dragon was just a serpent who had a lot of fucking gold,didn't even spit fire, and when it got too old it fucked off to the ocean because even the earth didn't want it anymore

>4 legs and a tail
>humanoid
Wut?

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>if you say wyvern people will assume two legs + wings
No, that's the point, most people won't

>In fact, nothing except INSECTS or ARACHNIDS, or other arthropods.
Yes, no other creatures have more than 4 limbs.

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Where are they?
What ancestors did those descend from?
Do they share a common ancestor with Arthropods?
Why don't any other lizards have six limbs?

Every mammal on land has 4 limbs, and so do the ones in the sea.

Did the ancestor also have fire breath, or just a stinky gas breath, like the ancestor to the bombardier beetle, the stink bug?

Same for every other lizard EXCEPT for this "Dragon" and his unknown, unnamed, possibly non-existent ancestor.

Is the dragon's ancestor a six-limbed snake that shoots fart gas?
Can we call it a stink-skink?

BEHOLD THE MIGHTY DRAGON!
ANCESTOR OF THE FIERCE STINK-SKINK!

The arthropods and the mollusks branched off from the same ancestor at least 700 MYA.

But, hey, thanks for giving me another example of an invertebrate with multiple limbs that isn't related to lizards!

>Every mammal on land has 4 limbs, and so do the ones in the sea.
Work harder on your bait, man.

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WYVERNS ARE DRAGONS IN THE SAME WAY THAT A SQUARE IS A POLYGON.

HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND YOU FUCKS?

livescience.com/4298-dolphin-remains-legs.html
There are dolphins with 4 fins.

Now find me one with six.

>The arthropods and the mollusks branched off from the same ancestor at least 700 MYA.
so? Your making absolute statements that aren't correct.
>only this thing
>presented with evidence to the contrary
>that thing used to be this thing an epoch ago hurr durr

Why does everyone get so defensive over a simply classification system for big fictional lizards

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And there are those without, saying EVERY mammal has 4 limbs is factually incorrect.

You’re fucking stupid.

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Bragons

Nobody likes spergs, simple as

Come at me, bro.

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Literally every single one of those is a dragon you fucking brainlet.

D&D (or whatever you took this from) doesn't dictate the rules of all fantasy settings. Wyrm/dragon/drake/wyvern/your mom/etc are all synonyms as far as semantics is concerned
That said, Dark Souls distinguishes dragons from drakes/wyverns

Did you stop reading my original post halfway because you were so excited to try and prove me wrong you missed the part about the mesozoic era?

tell me how can you be this gay and still havn't committed suicide yet? whats holding you back, just do it everyone that knows you would be happy to be rid of you

bro nobody cares taht you’re an entomologist or whatever

>make a wyvern
>call it a drake

Guess the game

Find me some then.
Remember, vestigial limbs count.

Honestly I did not read that post since you made a broad sweeping absolute statement that was incorrect in ALL CAPS, fiurther reading proves you to be even more correct since you said they would have to have external shells, the octopus shits all over you again.

>call a made up thing one name
>tryhard faggot comes in and "AHKTUALLY THAT'S INCORRRECT, I SAW IT ON REDDIT"
>History and linguistics both prove that he's retarded and wrong
Nobody's defensive, it's just calling retards retards.

Dark Souls? I like that they went for a more heraldic depiction, with the weird beak mouth. The big red one was called the Hellkite Wyvern though, even though it was the same, only big and red.

>vestigial limbs count.
Then all snakes have 4 legs because one obscure ass branch of legless lizards exists.

Why are people autistic about this stuff only with dragons. Every other change or subversion of generic fantasy lore is pretty much left alone. For example, everyone complains that dragons are ackchyually wyverns in Skyrim but no cares that TES dwarves are actually just elves. Why do you people want everything to be the same and boring?

fuck off with the D&D crap

Gee, it's almost like my argument that nothing outside of the common ancestor of arthropods has MORE than 4 limbs, because the common ancestor of all other life on earth had 4 limbs has some merit!

Plenty of games with those "Drakes" or Lizards as they are more commonly known as.

Well snakes have evolutionary remnants of legs so I think thats acceptable.

Cool, show me a mollusk with wings and I'll accept my defeat.
Because last time I checked, this whole argument was about dragons.

based retard

oh, also, OCTOPUS USED TO HAVE A SHELL:
livescience.com/58063-why-the-octopus-lost-its-shell.html

Shove your DnD bestiary up your ass you fucking idiot, noone ever gave a fuck about that distinction until you filthy neckbeards started screaching about it

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Can we just talk about bad dragons?

youtube.com/watch?v=E0Ju3mO50pc

>used to =/= does
my whole argument is that you need to stop making incorrect absolute statements if you ever want to win an argument.

Cause dragon's are the coolest thing in fantasy so people want to make sure that everything stemming off them is correct.
It's the same reason why there's a million kinds of lightsabers.

If you don't do that then you end up with over simplistic environments liken to bethesda games.

>so people want to make sure that everything stemming off them is correct.
then they should actually do some research instead of making dumb ass charts like OP

Maybe you should read the entire post before you respond.
All those creatures had those things in the mesozoic, thereby explaining why they are the way they are today.

Stop straw manning.

I haven't been paying attention, but why does one autist care so damn much about the legs of lizards again?

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How could i forget about Volvagia...maybe i'm a pleb

lmao imagine getting upset over imaginary definitions of imaginary creatures

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Reminder that Western and Eastern dragons, and even different types of Western dragons, aren't actually all "dragons" and arose as seperate, indepedent chimeric monsters and were only retroactively grouped together due to supeficial similarities. This is especially noticable when people try to label Mesoamerican feathered serpents or the flying serpents across the Americas in general as "dragons" when they are even more isolated then the west and east are

So the autists wanting to use different terms are correct.

they also refer to Grigori as Wyrm multiple times.

Ok dumbfuck. We'll all remember that so you never have to post it again. Promise. Now fuck off back to retard land or wherever you make up this bullshit.

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he's right though

Not magical creatures.
Differences arbitrary.
>This is not correct and it's a blatant mistake.
>This is correct.
Dangerously autistic.

Seems like a very inefficient method of locomotion.

the most important aspect a western style dragon needs to have is the proper role in the story
as the great obstacle the hero needs to overcome, the unholy beast that tests his skill and resolve

if a dragon is just a normal enemy or god forbid an ally, it has failed as a dragon regardless of how many limbs it has

Quest for Glory IV Shadows of Darkness has wild Wyverns.
They're styled like a lindwyrm, but they have poison stingers.

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The Chinese and Mesoamerican "Dragons" play pretty similar roles and developed independently in style as a way to portray a being as both heavenly and of the earth, not a monster. It is only the western dragons who largely developed from almalgamating many chimeric, antagonistic creatures together. Mostly due the European obsession with with Greco/Roman themes.

my wife

Why does the west love reusing the same memes over and over? The hero’s journey is so fucking trite and boring. It was good, I’m not saying it wasn’t a great concept. But you can’t run the same formula forever and expect it to be interesting

Except we're not talking about mexican feather boas, we're talking about this thing, the version without wings, and the version with arms. These did in fact all develop from the same thing.

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Aren't dragons also sentient and pretty wise while wyverns are more like REEEEEEEEEEEEEE FIREEEEEEEE

Dragons are also red and wyverns can be red or green

if you want a great scaly lizard to ride then fine, but don't call it a dragon

RuneScape is the most based and dragpilled game out there

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Western dragons were never really depicted with more than animalistic intelligence, aside from a weird knack at kidnapping princesses instead of just eating them.

Who cares about dragons anyway. Literally the boomer beast

no, where did you hear that?

depends on what its moving through, some snakes move similarly through sand, although maybe not quite as much of an exaggerated sideways motion.

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>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE FIREEEEEEEE
Wyverns are commonly associated with poison rater than fire.

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If you’re going to be so autistic you might as well call Chinese dragons and Japanese dragons by their name. Long and ryu if my weeb knowledge doesn’t fail me

Tolkien said this motherfucker was one of the most intelligent creatures to ever exist.

Apparently he couldn't outsmart a big arrow though lmao

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this made me want to play runescape 2bh

In antiquity I meant. Obviously westerners have stolen some writing conventions from Eastern legends in order to augment their own writing

>*all* of them take increased damage from Dragon Hunter weapons

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They aren't even dragons, they're land gods that just look like winged serpents.

yeah, but snakes don't have legs, so it makes sense. That dude up there does have legs. Maybe it's just pretending to be retarded the way weasels do though.

intelligent yes, but also incredibly arrogant

it would make sense if it was moving through sand, the snaking motion would at least, since stomping down on fine sand with legs wouldnt work as well.

but yea i doubt thats the case and its just moving like that cause it looks cool, shits fantasy yo, no need to overthink it TOO much

This is not a phoenix either

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>respect
sucking hasbro teenage fantasy book isn't respect, it's slavery.

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>winged serpents
>winged

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Why are dragon autists so autistic?

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>wings with no legs
How does he even take off and land

Jumps off a mountain maybe.

>no need to overthink it
No, I like the idea that it prtends to be retarded like a stoat much better.

they have different scale patterns, different horns around their heads, and slightly different shaped torso/ heart placement as well

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Maybe he coils up and lunges upward?

nigga that would be awesome though imagine if there was a zombie outbreak but instead of people turning into zombies they turned into some fucking stinky ass rotting orks
shit would be rad as fuck

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So they're about as different as Polar bears, brown bears, and panda bears essentially? That isn't too bad desu.

that's just L4D2 with chargers only

same bro, same

>Dragon
>actually having consistent features.
>This is showing respect.

Bullshit. Dragons originally where anything large and vaguely reptillian. Your drake nonsense is just someone wanting to make it autistically classified.

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Don't make me pull out my official dragon biology book again

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Where the fuck are the chingchong pingpong longdongs

nigga i ain't talking about some oversized zombie who runs at people with their giant fap arm im talking some actual axe flinging gun shooting orkz

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kek

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I don't know shit about Asian dragons, but as a mesoameriaboo, while Quetzalcoatl for the Aztec's was absolutely represenative of a synergy/dualism of both heavenly and mortal elements (feathers = sky = divine, snake = earth = mortal), I'm actually not certain that ALL mesoamerican feathered serpents have that element/that that's the foundational symbolsim at play

For example, at Teotihuacan, I've read that the feathered serpent was more associated with water, rivers, etc, which is why the main river re-directed through the city is aligned with the feathered serpent pyramid, the facade has both featheres serpent heads and proto-tlaloc faces (though i've also read they might be proto-cipactli's), and much of the items we've found there tend to have aquatic symbolish and the placa in front of it might have been able to be filled with water a la the roman colloseum

Granted, it might be it just ALSPO had water elements on top of the heavens/earth symbolism, but i'm not quite sure

My understanding is eastern and western dragons developed entirel;y seperately, user

fucking westerners these days got no patience for us honest to god hardworking longwong noodle dragons

Wait australia has dragons?

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at least translate the interesting bits nigga.

And they even look like kangaroos lmao

See OP a sub species of the lindwurm can have wings as well

It's non sense be petty about this because in some operas this classification it's different.

that looks like a green kangaroo with a pterodactyl type head crest thing.

>drachen = dragon
Meaning that they're all dragons.

Forgot pics

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>membrane wings
Odd but cute

>My understanding is eastern and western dragons developed entirely seperately, user
How eastern are we talking about? Slav Eastern? Or Jap and Chinese eastern? Because I'm only talking about European perception here. A Portuguese man, a polish man, a norwegian man, everyone in between and probably the average anglo will all recognize that two legged dude with 2 legs as a dragon. They won't break down into that autistic chart of OP.

We’re talking about dragons. Sky’s the limit and you’re worried about them following the real world

Yes called marsupial-dragon
„Wyvern diverted from most dragons by only having 2 legs“

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feel like this thread just moved from /tg/ to here?

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I think those are supposed to be what Bunyips are.

No, like the actual text in the pages. What's with the okapi and platypus in ? What's it say about their head?

>be peasant
>wake up at 5 am in the morning
>just harvested some motherfucking oats the other day
>go get some water for your oatmeal breakfast
>this motherfucker is chilling by the well
what do

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remove bigots from the file name and it’s pretty good to incite rage. Bigot seems to easy to spot

The crystal ball you see some eastern dragon (draco orientalis) is actually it’s egg
Note how Japanese dragons have 4 claws but Chinese 5

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Who else had this book as a kid?

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Every universe can establish it's own meaning of the word.
Just like BoF Dragons are Gods of grass and stones.

Go complain to your local knight/lord. Getting his ass chewed on by a dragon is part of the job description.

Also find a new water source because he's clearly using that well as a bathroom.

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Some kraut, apparently.

WYVERNS ARE DRAGONS YOU FUCKING KEKS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Thank you for not being a retard

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Animals don't evolve during their lifetime, Pokemon is retarded.

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>No, like the actual text in the pages. What's with the okapi and platypus in
It says that those animal at some point in history were also regarded as fictional and magical but later proven to be real
Just like this book are going to proof that dragons also exist

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MSI Dragon

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Sorry for the not so great picture quality
I hope you guys are still enjoying it
On the page you can find the runs which dragons use to write

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remember when /g/ made porn of this guy

African Wyverns are big enough to hunt elephants

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Having a hard time trying to figure out the type of dragon in South America. Could you please take a closer pic of him, book user?

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Flying on a dragon is the true gentleman‘s way of travel

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Tell it to Fuck off. If I dont get my oatmeal I go Fucking mental.

You can get a better look of him her

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That‘s about it for the book

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Nice, thanks user

Be sure to buy the newest dragon fire proof helmets

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>imagine caring about what you call fantasy creatures!

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No he's not.
>Made up monsters aren't exactly made up monsters!!!!!
There's no official taxonomy for this shit. There's no Nicene Creed on the definition of dragons. There's just autism gone horribly wrong by circlejerking retards in extremely closed circles thinking that their bullshit ass-pulled definitions count for the entire planet. It's pedantry and it's incorrect -- the absolute worst kind of pedantry on the planet.

Cool. Thanks dude.

FUCK OFF DRAGONFAGS

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Have trouble finding dragons in your area? Why not buy a dragon whistle at your local dragon shop?
Btw Sea Snakes are dragons who went back to the ocean millions of years ago. Similar to what happened to whales

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Half of this thread BTFO by this post. Thank you, user.

I see you're still sperging

>FUCK ___ DRAGON___S

That brings back good memories.

FUCK DRAGONS INSTEAD

Every sane individual knows everything in there is a dragon, but also knows that there is a True dragon group for the greater wyrms. The wing count and consequent bullshit is a plot made by neet dragons posting.
T. Gold dragon

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If dragons were real how long would they have lasted before we completely wiped them out? I'd say they'd be completely gone as soon as we developed decent ballistae tech. So sometime around the 50 BC. Romans would have gone around the world slaughtering those shits by the hundreds. They'd simply be too deadly to let live and bringing back shit like dragon scales/teeth would be huge business in the empire.

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>sperging
Is that what you call it when someone calls out your bullshit? Or is it just run-of-the-mill projection you're doing?

The Greeks would probably domesticate them and start having dragon harems

>If dragons were real how long would they have lasted before we completely wiped them out?
I don't know, impenetrable scales, flight, and fire breathing doesn't seem like something that can be defeated by anything other than that thing mao zedong did to all those birds on china and even then I don't know. Seems like a good way to get villages burned down.

Depends on how smart the dragons are. If they're dumb animals, there's still a chance they would have wiped us out, but they would have to have done so very early on. If they are actually intelligent and existed before us, then there's no reason why they would not have eliminated us before we even evolved into proper humans.

Dragons would be smart to keep all humans at an agrarian technological level with no ability to create deadly weapons, something they could do with no loss of life to themselves. If they did allow cities to exist, they would have to occupy them to monitor the humans. Most stories with dragons are portrayed with such gross contradictions of having both great intelligence yet inexplicable stupidity in doing nothing to curb the advance of human technology that will eventually enslave or exterminate them.

FUCK YOU MY MORTAL KOMBAT INTERNSHIP GAVE ME PTSD ABOUT THAT SHIT

Hitting a dragon with a ballista is like hitting an airplane with artillery -- possible, but far more difficult than you initially think. Knocking them out of the sky would be damn near impossible. You'd have to lure them into your killzone.

With the intelligence dragons have in some settings, you can expect them to develop civilization a lot faster than humans. Their biggest problem would be a lack of numbers and lack of hand dexterity to make tools which would lead to industrialization, science and technology.

I think dragons wouldn't be too aggressive against humans. I think they'd keep them happy enough to be productive but controlled enough to be subjugated. In other words, dragons would become kings and feudal lords.

The problem is the clown society of America doesn't understand the concept of foreign folklore, an dliterally actually believe, hard on the bigmac secret recipe, that Disney and Hasbro made it all up.

Impenetrable scales would be hyperbole from peasants that tried to pitchfork dragons to death and got eaten for their troubles. A huge wooden or metal spike being propelled by a decent ballistae would be enough to pierce the hide of any living creature. It's really about how smart dragons are. Early ballistae weren't all that mobile and aiming wasn't that easy. If they learned that going in front of them was a bad idea then they could just fireball them from far away, or for dragons without flame just rush them from behind or the sides.

depends on how smart the dragons are
if they are really smart I think they would have killed off humans and not the other way around
if they are not that smart but still smart enough to train I don´t think we would have ever wiped them out but instead used them for war and labor animals like dogs, horses, elephants

Animals change more over their lives than their descendants change over dozens of generations. A person raised in cold climates by parents from a warm climate will be more comfortable than a person brought into a cold climate after being raised in a warm climate by cold-climate parents.

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Pretty sure if dragons were smart they could even avoid or defeat current day humans. Assuming they have all the knowledge we do about military technology including bio weapons.

I've never even heard of a lindwurm or amphitheater.

Is this what you DnDfags got reduced to? You all become powerful wizards just as prophecised and cast austim spells on each other?

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>they could even avoid or defeat current day humans
BACKBLAST CLEAR

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>Animals change more over their lives than their descendants change over dozens of generations.
that's a different process than evolution my dude. That's more like metamorphosis or in some cases, simply growing up.

Hellspawns.

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Holy shit you're a retard

Holy shit this is great.
Fukken saved

how do RPGs deal with hitting a wall of flame mid flight?

>mfw people still falling for OP bait

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Thinking that your personal, made-up definition of "dragon" applies to the world is retarded and spergish. You can stop that any time.

I'm not sure. But I am sure nothing will be left unharmed after being hit with a HEAT rocket.

It's a different process than Darwinian evolution. "Evolution", as a term to describe animals, originally talked about how they would "unfold" from embryos and change/adapt to their environments/challenges.

It's not a made-up definition. It's a thing that is widely accepted in the community. You can stop being a contratian faggot right now.

Every definition is made up and personal. In fact, YOU'RE made up too.

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Dragons were very real
nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/05/ambopteryx-new-species-bat-wing-dinosaur-discovered-china/

Science just thinks it's a stupid design

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>science
Nature, sorry.

Preferred Ancalagon the black myself

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>manta
>crystal
>guardian
>majesty
>Not flying around as a giant flying island full of worshippers on your back for all eternity.

>isn't at least the size of a horse
>doesn't breathe fire or toxic haze
>isn't a serpent at its core with chimerical traits
>doesn't hoard gold, circle the world, desire fair maidens, spoil crops, or rule the sea
There's more to dragons than just something looking like one.

But that's a wyvern

I remember this book I had it when I was a kid, I wish I still had it.

Wyverns are a type of dragon, Gary gygax is not the final authority on this.

Dragons having 4 legs is unrealistic, though

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>it's widely accepted in the community
The community of morons that suck their own dicks?
That's not how words or communication works, dumbass.

Says who? Dragons come in all sizes

Dragons in historical art depicts them as rather large, usually the size of a horse at least. You might be able to find some the size of a man. if you find any smaller, it's possibly from a work which doesn't really take scale and size into account in depicting things.

Trying way too hard but retards will still treat this as a legitimate argument

Probably ignore it, flame has no real force to it, just the wind pressure of the dragon's exhalation which is nothing compared to the air resistance it's already facing traveling as fast as it is, and they travel fast enough that it's unlikely the heat would have time to damage any of the important components before impact
You would't want an RPG though, they're hard enough to hit a predictable target like a helicopter going in a straight line with and a dragon would be much more evasive if they knew they were coming. Unless you're getting surprise shots you definitely need either something so high velocity they can't avoid it or guidance.

The real weakness of dragons is flak though. A 60 yard diameter shrapnel burst anywhere in your vicinity is bad enough when you're a steel and reinforced glass airplane, but if you're depending on thin wing membranes to fly and vulnerable eyes to see a you're not going to fuck with that.

I'd say "normal" dragons vs WW1 would be a close fight, WW2 would mop the floor with them. "Normal" meaning no "The dragon is also a master wizard and casts quickened enlarged force cage + cloudkill on your army"

It kinda is a bit. No vertebrate on earth has ever produced that kind of mutation.

The closest thing is this unholy lizard. Imagine gliding with your fucking ribs

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Whoops, dropped my picture

Except St George's dragon, the most famous dragon in all historical art.
He's the size of a dog or a large grouse.

oh no i'm retarded
can't give up now though

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Let's say we put dragons in prehistoric Earth. Would they survive to our days?

Yeah, but that isn't that largely due to symbolism more than anything else? To portray evil as pathetic?

That's symbolic, otherwise you wouldn't need a saint to put the thing down.

>no evolutionary reason
Dumbest thing I've heard all day, and it's been a long fucking day. Was that picture made in reddit or what is made after a visit to reddit?

you done it

they would run into the same issue other megafauna did, namely losing prey that is large enough and in enough quantity to sustain them either due to humans and other animals extincting all their prey, or being hunted themselves.

I think a lot of people just consider all of those to be types of dragons.

Ultima games

It's Friday night and Im here arguing about dragons on Yea Forums

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The idea that dragons and wyverns are different is a relatively modern invention. The distinction did not exist before the advent of heraldry.

If you actually fucking cared about the difference then you would know that the number of legs isn't even that important, whereas the presence of spikes on the tail is what actually defines whether or not something is better described as a wyvern or a dragon.

The whole point of language is to communicate things in a simple, quick manner. So why do people get triggered at wanting to differentiate wyvern and dragon? Saying wyvern is a lot easier than saying dragon but the front arms are wings.

Who gives a shit?

Imagine poking your ribs through your skin and stabbing people with them.

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I was on the wiki finding ancient proof that they gave a shit back then and apparently wyvern comes from the word viper. It's a lesser dragon with the body of a serpent and don't necessarily have legs.

Pic related is a coat of arms from a city in my cuntry

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A wyrm has wings you fucking retard

that's a drake in that game cause it's "small"
source: just got finished fighting one

Isn't grigori a curse inflicted uppon the chosen one in that game? Not a real dragon.

The word "dragon" itself is also ultimately derived from the Greek "drákōn", a term used to refer to snakes in general. "Wyrm" has a similar etymology. "Wyvern" as a word is not any different from the other terms for dragons.

This is assuming you'll be facing dragons in open combat in a field somewhere. What are you going to do if dragons start popping out of caves and deep forests into populated areas and just start wrecking shit? You can't really start throwing shrapnel everywhere.

19th century fanfiction will soon kowtow to post-materialism

Our ancestors fought irl with these brands in their flags so we could fight on the internet about their etymology.

Dragons have always been retardedly prideful so they probably just think humans are too stupid to make anything that could potential harm them

Gosh, nerd culture becoming mainstream sure has changed a lot. I NEVER heard ANYONE being super anal about dragon distinction until recent times. What happened?

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Why have people clung to this autistic shit? Go look at dragons in historical mythology. They range in form across that entire spectrum. This shit only started popping up like a decade ago, and it really needs to fuck off.

It's a noun from "derkomai", a middle-voice verb meaning "to be shocking/unsightly/a spectacle".
If we want an animal that fits the description of a dragon better, look at pterodactyls (and the conspiracy theory that they still exist)

mtg had this distinction between dragon races in the 90s already. It probably came from DnD, idk never played that shit

It's not that I care that people can identify them but every year the popular consensus is that only Wyverns exist and it's sad because there are less and less representations of the other types of dragons in media. DS1 had ancient dragons and Drakes and it's cool to see diferent depictions of dragons since they are cool. I don't care that people who watch GoT call them dragons but there's less and less types in fantasy media lately

>and the conspiracy theory that they still exist
Link?

It's a shitty meme. Half of the people are being retards on purpose, and the other half are star examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Skyrim has dragons, deal with it nerds

Never mind, it's nothing.

Just another lochness monster/UFO/big foot etc craze

People have always argued about asinine things.

Skyrim, the Hobbit film, and GoT are some of the most popular and influential media in recent years where Dragons are featured prominently, and both use the 2-leg, 2-wing "wyvern" design. Like it or not, they've effectively redefined Dragons as having that body type.

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Where did you get that definition? All the sources I found simply say "δέρkομαι" means "to see/watch/glance", which makes perfect sense, given the hunting method of most snakes.

That's exactly what I was saying. I don't care that they call them dragons. It's just that there's no variety anymore and the image of dragons and their subspecies disappears into a homogenized mass

The entire germanic people whom developed the original dwarf folklore Tolkien stole

No matter how inbred levels of cretin you are, wyverns will always be dragons.
Get a girlfriend and have sex.

>"stole"
lol
name one fantasy trope that isn't stolen from something else.

>Get a girlfriend and have sex
Dress up and bend over then, faggot, I am going to hold your hands.

the originals, numbnuts.

Original Dwarfs are mythical ya retard
Not fantasy

then call a retard, fag.

The book Smaug had 4 legs. It's probably easier to animate with just 2

No, they chose to go with the wyvern type design because of muh realism, as is typical.

WHAT'S THE BEST GAME THAT LETS ME PLAY AS A DRAGON AND FUCK SHIT UP.

amphipteres are fucking terrifying

Skyrim.

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PLEASE TODD I CAN'T PLAY ANY MORE SKYRIM.

When the mc calls the wyvern a dragon a party member just tells her to stop being stupid and to look at the notice the biological difference

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Spyro 3

This book exists in English under the title "Dragonology". Google it. I bet it's been scanned.

Is King Ghidorah a Wyvern then?

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Then why don't you take a break and play some Fallout 76 then? It's just as fun! Buy it for every platform so you can get the full experience!

fugg, forgot my image. But don't worry, things not working are just part of the experience!

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FFXI names and designs them as such, however Wyrms look like this.

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i did, I loved all the textured items and stuff you can pull out and feel the scales and fur of.

youtube.com/watch?v=5EVq1j0tews

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