>A PS1 Final Fantasy has so much more content than a PS4 Final Fantasy that they have to cut it up into 3 parts and spend probably 5+ years remaking it in HD Absolutely despicable and sad. How can anyone be excited for this, how can anyone be seriously entertaining giving Square Enix money for this?
They're flat out admitting "yeah for the past 15+ years we've been gradually putting drastically less and less actual content in our games and spending that money on marketing and pretty graphics". If you defend this fucking remake, kill yourself.
Well the reason for the episodic release, other than more money, is that they want to not only recreate EVERYTHING from the original game but they also want to add a lot more content. So I am fine with the fact that it may be a trilogy.
Owen Fisher
That picture has more detail than the entirety of FF7
Gavin Lee
Oh yes, because Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children and Crisis Core were sooooo good weren't they?
They're just trying to pad out a trilogy to justify $180 for a FF7 remake.
Colton Turner
And none of the soul
Jaxson Russell
>soul There's this word again
Isaac Lee
The HD realistic anime faces look jank as hell
Ryan Richardson
You already made this thread before
Joshua Mitchell
>>A PS1 Final Fantasy has so much more content than a PS4 Final Fantasy Not really, it's just that now being a graphicwhore is more time consuming and requires a lot more data than before. FFVII had the same problem for its time, hence the multiple discs, but graphicwhoring back then didn't require as much time as it does today.
It has nothing to do with actual hard content (which FF never had), but you FF nostalgiafaggots like to pretend otherwise for the sake of bitching and living in your own delusions.
Brody Davis
I'll make it as many times as I fucking like faggot
Benjamin Taylor
That's because video games are more expensive to make now brainlet
Jacob Barnes
It takes longer, yes, but their team sizes increased accordingly. They've already said there's too much content for them to fit it on one game.
This all points to them being gigantic jews who've been pumping out trash games for the past decade and a half with less content than games they made 20 years ago. If FFXV had just as much content as FF7 how come they could fit FFXV on one disc?
Mason King
And they sell more so it balances out you corporate shill.
They're only as expensive to make as how hard they decide to chase stupidly expensive graphics you fucking child.
Henry Allen
They don't care. They want their fix at all costs. Addicts have no standards. Once you realize most gamers are literal addicts, all the stuff they let devs get away with makes sense. All the defense forces start making sense. They think you're truing to take away their drug.
Lincoln Martinez
They're making record profits WITHOUT mtxs. The mtx and dlc are extra sugar. Almost every single one of the biggest games this gen are single player and have no mtxs.
Asher Evans
thats not because of them spending pretty graphics and marketing, well, the former comes into play little bit but actually what square is saying is right ---- old games, especially JRPGs, you could have more broader locations, more detailed maps, more varied environments due to the fact that you just need to make it with pre-rendering maps and fields. you dont need to make it with full 3D models unlike in these days. if you make FF7 remake as the game having the scale that original had with super detailed full 3D models, you need to money as much as you need to make the biggest open world game.
I mean, SE did not need to do remake FF7 in the first place. it was obvious you cant make the proper remake if you do not split it, instead of this impossible project to achieve, they should have done HD remaster of the original, remaking original pre-rendering CGs into HD ones, which would not need a lot of money.
Jack Thompson
>It takes longer, yes, but their team sizes increased accordingly I don't think you understand just how much work you need to do in order to graphicwhore nowadays, especially for a moviegame like FFVII. >They've already said there's too much content for them to fit it on one game. Yeah, just like they divided the original game in CDs, turns out you need a lot of time and money to do a proper conversion of a game which sold on graphics back then and needs to sell on graphics now, who would have thunk it? >This all points to them being gigantic jews who've been pumping out trash games for the past decade and a half with less content than games they made 20 years ago. No, this is the butthurt headcanon of a disenfranchised faggot. Protip: FF has always been invariably trash, Squaresoft's production as a whole has been mediocre outside of two or three IPs which they drove to the ground in order to satisfy people like you. >If FFXV had just as much content as FF7 how come they could fit FFXV on one disc? Because they've been "working" on it since 10+ years, surprise surprise.
Logan Reed
>old games, especially JRPGs, you could have more broader locations, more detailed maps, more varied environments due to the fact that you just need to make it with pre-rendering maps and fields. you dont need to make it with full 3D models unlike in these days In other words, PS1 FF's had more content than modern FF's because they'd rather put the money into graphics and marketing.
Zachary Rogers
I thought the reason for the psx version being on three discs was the music. Besides the music don't all three discs have the same data?
Jonathan Nelson
Nostalgiatards everyone
Wyatt Martin
>I don't think you understand just how much work you need to do in order to graphicwhore nowaday So don't graphics whore. Just have good graphics, that aren't absolutely insane. It's not neccesary. >and needs to sell on graphics now It caught eyes because of graphics, it sold because it was a solid fucking game with characters, locations and a plot that people fell in love with. You don't need graphics to sell an FF7 remake, it sells itself. >Because they've been "working" on it since 10+ years What in the fuck are you even trying to say moron?
Kevin Jones
Well, yeah, JRPGs this side of the PS2 have been less sophisticated (although more accesible) than even SNES ones. This is not news.
Nathan White
Music and FMV's
Gabriel Reed
If they keep the three part plan, the last one may come out in 2034, if they keep their usual development cycles.
Ethan Murphy
Oh, right.
Leo Williams
And yet millions of retards, and most of Yea Forums, will rush out and pay $180 for the FF7 remake trilogy.
Fuck this fucking earth.
Evan Butler
>because they'd rather put the money into graphics and marketing. I am not saying that. rather, you could make the game having 100 times wider range than now with 100 times lesser money than now.
the problem is not square --- but the modern gaming itself. and anyone will not be satisfied anymore with PS1 low poly graphics.
Caleb Sanders
>it sold because it was a solid fucking game with characters, locations and a plot that people fell in love with. Uhhh how did people know it was a solid game that has characters, locations, and plot that they would fall in love with without buying the game
Austin Garcia
>Because you make money after release means that you magically have enough money to spend on making the game in the first place
That's how people go broke
Owen Davis
The multiple discs was because of the size of the FMVs, not because of in-game assets.
Brody Moore
Dev times would speed up after getting all the bases covered user.
Oliver Watson
>talks like a sarcastic prep
okay well you're kind of a dick
Hudson Anderson
Oh, Final Fantasy has always been the most cinematic ones since what 4? It's a complete non-issue. People that claim stuff like P5 to be the return of old school JRPGs? Those I hate.
Ayden Hall
>So don't graphics whore Impossible, FF is nothing without the graphics, nobody would care for a mediocre game series with garbage gameplay that doesn't even look good. >it sold because it was a solid fucking game with characters, locations and a plot that people fell in love with. Nah, it sold because it looked incredibly for its time and had an absurdly massive marketing campaign, that's it, the gameplay was trash even for its time and the characters and story were generic animu as fuck, if modern Yea Forums could have existed back then you'd see daily shitposting threads about how weebshit it was just like it happens nowadays. >What in the fuck are you even trying to say moron? Gee I don't know, maybe take that Squaresoft cock out of your mouth and try to listen to people, you retard.
I know you try to pretend FF wasn't trash in the past because you grew up with it, but not knowing any better at your age is fucking embarassing.
Colton Miller
So don't buy it then you fucking sperg. I'm hype as fuck - seems like they actually want to make a good game this time round.
Angel Jackson
Where is OP getting the info about the game having less content than the original and the game being 180$
Kevin Sanchez
>Uhhh how did people know it was a solid game that has characters, locations, and plot that they would fall in love with without buying the game Because kids actually talked to each other and bought gaming magazines back in the day instead of spending all day on twitter
David Hernandez
2030 seems more realistic, then.
Xavier Watson
Thanks to Square Enix's track record and how they've essentially dragged Final Fantasy's name through the mud, I have given up all hope of this game ever being good. Final Fantasy is dead. Maybe SE can change and create something amazing, but I really doubt it.
Luis Young
That's literally how video games work you drooling fucking retarded child.
You make the game, then you get your money back when you sell it.
Justin Mitchell
Kill yourself nigger, how's that for being a dick?
Fuck back to r eddit
Adrian Harris
Learn to fucking read moron.
Go back and read the OP again retard.
Jack Edwards
You're clearly underaged. Just go back to /reddit/.
Julian Gutierrez
>he posts reddit unironically
oh okay, sorry to bother your aimless frothing rage election friend
I'm obviously SOOOO like totally reddit lmao
Cooper Butler
Will this be on Switch? I refuse to buy Snoy consoles since they sell like shit and has no games
Camden Reed
>I know you try to pretend FF wasn't trash in the past Compared to what it's like now in the past it was the fucking mona lisa.
The fact remains their newer games can't hold a candle to their older ones.
Michael Parker
>seems like they actually want to make a good game this time round Yes, splitting a PS1 game into 3 seperate $60 games, padding them out with "new story elements" and probably shit tons of DLC just screams "we're doing this for YOU", right?.
Jason Watson
>I refuse to buy Snoy consoles since they sell like shit They literally won every gen since their inception in terms of unit sales, why do unit sales even matter anyway retard?
>and has no games Oh, it's retarded...how sad
Caleb James
Yeah, I'm not seeing it Seems to me like you're just pulling shit out of your ass
Ayden Rivera
Jesus fucking christ almighty give me STRENGTH...
OP didn't say it was cutting content. He was comparing PS1 FF's to PS4 FF's and saying how the fact FF7R is an episodic trilogy is proof their modern FF's have way less content, as FFXV fit on one disc just fine.
They're being huge jews, they're being putting less and less content into each new game and if you buy this trilogy you're cancer.
Brody Sullivan
Wii won over PS3 retard
Isaiah Lopez
Wii doesn't even count as a video game console, it was a toy. It had 0 good games, name one, you can't.
Jack Martin
How old are you? 12? 13?
Austin Nguyen
> Snoys actually believe this
Jack Morgan
Wasn't there a lot of cut content from the original that didn't get added to the game? You think they might be using those assets?
Adrian Scott
Name ONE game
Mason Howard
old enough to fuck your mom in your bed while the battle theme for FF7 plays on the TV
I wouldn't say more content (FFXII and FFXV take the cake) but in terms of sheer scale the open world FFs are vastly larger than anything tried today. FFVII's city of Midgar locations aline are going to take more art and programming to pull off than an entire triple-A like Dishonored.
Nicholas Gonzalez
> Gets proven wrong > LUL NO GAMES Snoyfags everyone
Caleb Morgan
I'm older than you, and I've never been to plebbit. Maybe you're the one who should go back since you appear to know how it's like. >The fact remains their newer games can't hold a candle to their older ones. They're the same fucking thing, stop deluding yourself already, some, if not many, are even worse than their modern ones.
WHY ARENT THEY USING ADVENT CHILDREN AERITH?? STOP THE JAW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
Blake Stewart
I'm not sold on that UI
Liam Mitchell
>just showing battles
I'm worried they cut out the exploration of midgar honestly
Cooper Gutierrez
Nice job exposing yourself as a newfag
Benjamin Sanchez
I mean, it's just turning FF7 into an overdone cringe inducing hollywood movie basically
Yea Forums should love it
Joshua Cooper
>fmvs aren't assets in the game
Colton Anderson
ff12 doesn't honestly have that much content at all
it's a big main quest, a lot of hunts, and a -LOT- of re-used assets to pad that out into 100 hours
Nolan Watson
>starting from level 1 each game
oh no no no fuck that
Robert Campbell
What a stupid thing to worry about.
Do you all want the publishers to lets play the entire game before you buy it? This fucking generation I swear.
Cooper Cox
*downsizes tifa's tits* *removes dialogue bits like tifa calling barret a retard* *cut out problematic sections of the game like the cloud crossdressing one* *changes combat to ffxv garbage action shit* *sells you the game in multiple pieces all priced like a full AAA game* *sells you various retailer-specific unique dlc content and 10 different day 1 editions*
But Midgar had zero exploration whatsoever, it was a series of linear corridors with no freedom of progression, if anything this remake will change that and let you have at least some pretense of exploration like FFXV.
Michael Butler
>wahh wahh im a faggot and I hate video games but I come to a board dedicated to them to complain about them How does op do it?
Andrew Bailey
THIS JUST IN
Square Enix is a business!
Jose Martinez
that's the tradeoff when you have to spend all your resources making HD assets. the only solution is AI. there's no greed element, it's purely technological and fiscal limitations.
Eli Cruz
And unlike FF7 it isn't a huge, revolutionary graphical leap.
It won't even be for PS4, if anything the first episode will be PS4/5 and the remainders will be PS5 only.
Oliver Gutierrez
>technological and fiscal limitations Is that why there are AAA games released with a level of detail like this that aren't charging you 120$ for
Michael Hall
there is no AAA game with the scale and detail of FF7 if they're planning on making the overworld a proper map.
William Harris
>Well the reason for the episodic release, other than more money Is more money. Period.
Alexander Perry
Fact. You haven't even seen the game yet, you stupid black asshole. You don't know what they're doing or what the fuck they have.
David Sanchez
I doubt it considering just how massively popular the switch has become it'll be multiplat within a year if not at release
Evan Brown
Don't care. Aerith is cute.
Jayden Howard
Well if your remaking an old FF, its the whole fucking world while games like XV are just small regions that constantly were getting cut back to what we got.
I still find it hard to believe we would get a XV-style world, getting the scale right in 7 would be ridiculously hard and unlike XV you don't start with vehicles. I could definitely see small model on world map style of game outside the instances towns/cities/caves etc.
Mason Flores
No they don't. FF7 is still the only FF game to sell over 10 million copies.
Isaac Cox
Not necessarily. FF7 is about 25 hours long, 30 by doing all side content not including materia farming. If they're going to add a shitload of padding o make part 1 40 - 60 hours long, it'll be much bigger content wise than the entirety of the original.
The whole point is that the only way for them to justify a remake is to split it up and sell them each at full price.
Nicholas Perez
>You haven't even seen the game yet, you stupid black asshole. You don't know what they're doing or what the fuck they have. >but I know its going to be shit Lmao
David Mitchell
A few 3D objects have more detail than the entire game back then
Liam Parker
>Aerith Who?
Aaron Perez
Ear It.
Adrian Price
yuffie
John Wood
Seriously can you faggots stop just spouting whatever buzzwords are in fashion it makes you look like an idiot even if you have a reasonable point to make. Just type a fucking sentence like a normal person.
Jackson Cruz
You ARE all running through the original for the remake, right?
Leo Moore
Seething
Tyler Long
How is splitting the remake up into 3 parts any different than multiple CDs.
Samuel Powell
Because they're not charging separately for each.
Luis Johnson
FF7 on PS1 wasn't $180 moron
Justin Rogers
>That picture has more detail than the entirety of FF7 I'm not sure you know what the word "detail" actually means, user.
Leo Turner
>How can anyone be excited for this Im not, Im going to pirtae it.
Carter Hughes
because it won't be in "parts" anymore it's been in development for almost four years now m8
Jonathan Sanchez
And some people are defending this shit. Can new gen gamers be more idiots?
Why hasn't anyone brought up voice acting? The original FF7 had none. Doing fully voiced scenes changes a lot.
Lucas Evans
>implying you'll be able to play it on any current console
user please at best it'll be a PS5 launch title
Matthew Roberts
This game would just be perfect on the Switch. think about it...
Colton Robinson
It's still going to be episodic. There's a reason they haven't shown anything but midgar so far. If they were working on areas outside of midgar they would have some cut ins of things like the big outside field areas
Aiden Bennett
user you are retarded. The game is a year away and E3 is next month.
Lucas Jackson
So you think they are going to build 90% of the game in a year? You do know midgar is just the very beginning of the game, right?
Lincoln Ortiz
All those hundreds of pre-rendered backgrounds still had to be modelled by someone. I wonder if it's really that much more work than what they did back in the day.
>3 CDs containing one game due to size >overall price of game comes around general retail price for a single game >can play all content in one go without wait What's wrong with you people?
>A PS1 Final Fantasy has so much more content than a PS4 Final Fantasy that they have to cut it up into 3 parts and spend probably 5+ years remaking it in HD
THIS IS BECAUSE HD GRAPHICS MASSIVELY INCREASE DEVELOPMENT TIME
IT'S WHY A 5000 HOUR DISGAEA GAME IS FASTER TO MAKE THAN A 5 HOUR CALL OF DUTY GAME
HOLY FUCK WHY DON'T YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND THIS BY NOW
4K-QUALITY TEXTURES + MODELS + GEOMETRY, ALONG WITH MATCHING LEVELS OF ANIMATION AND SCRIPTING, REQUIRE MASSIVE FUCKING TEAMS OF MODELLERS, ARTISTS, ANIMATORS ETC.
Robert Sullivan
REEEEEEEEEEE
Cooper Walker
user, do you expect them to show the entire game off? We haven't seen anything past the first hour and you think thats all there is?
Here's the biggest issue I foresee with the FF7 remake: how are they going to tackle the story? FF7 has a very unsatisfying story progression. It suffers from convoluted plotting typical of anime, and remaking it with detailed, realistic, high-fidelity graphics with fully voiced performances will only highlight those flaws even more.
I'm going to use Cloud as an example of the issues with FF7's narrative. Cloud is a terrible character, and it's because his entire personality revolves around a shitty M. Night Shyamalan-esque plot twist.
For starters, before the twist is revealed, Cloud doesn't show any indication he is suffering (aside from some vague hints that the story glosses over), so the end result is that he goes from being a taciturn hero who has internalized someone else's memories as his own without realizing it to...a taciturn hero who outwardly appears the same, but apparently has resolved all those deep-seated issues, no really, believe me.
Furthermore, what is even the point of the whole Nibelheim incident? Cloud goes from being a heroic person (which he clearly is, judging by the flashbacks where he rescues Tifa twice and defeats Sephiroth) who failed to qualify for the elite squad of the evil cyberpunk regime (i.e. not a group you'd want to join) to assuming the memories of...Zack, another heroic person who did qualify for the elite squad of the evil cyberpunk regime. As far as catalysts for mental breakdowns go, this comes across as very pedestrian in the grand scheme of things. It's like the writers wanted to have a plot twist and an identity crisis, but couldn't think of any compelling material for such a storyline.
Another big issue that FVII suffers from is the dialogue. Everyone in FVII communicates in very basic English sentences. Despite being a group of misfits, some of which aren't even human, all of the characters have very nondistinct and same-y styles of speech.
If they had anything else to show, they would. They literally don't even have Tifa's model done yet
Carson Nelson
They don't though. The PS1 Final Fantasy games each sold similar amounts to FFXV, if not more.
>NO ONE WANTS FUCKING GRAPHICS Wrong, retard/ 90% of the gaming audience screams when the graphics in a new game aren't pretty enough. Good job misunderstanding my post, I am literally making the opposite of a graphics whore argument
Aaron Hill
>tiny non-interactive static pre-rendered backgrounds that take all of 5 seconds to traverse >"content"
Ever notice that Nintendo shitters have all the time in the world to shitpost for threads of hundreds of replies but everyone else seems too busy actually playing their systems?
Holy shit op you made another one of these pathetic threads where you make the idiotic claim that “ps1 games have more content” that’s fucking stupid and literally impossible, the reason consoles are upgraded are so that developers can literally add more content into games
Gabriel Barnes
>the reason consoles are upgraded are so that developers can literally add more content into games This is just blatantly untrue
Brandon Rivera
Are you the op?
Oliver Roberts
Don't take the bait
Andrew Mitchell
>4K-QUALITY TEXTURES Bigger textures just means you can fit more detail in. They aren't harder to make. They are still painted in photoshop just like before and the normal maps are generated the same way.
>MODELS + GEOMETRY The poly counts for characters are far higher but a lot of that is just higher subdivisions. Underneath the mesh isn't hugely more complicated.
>ALONG WITH MATCHING LEVELS OF ANIMATION AND SCRIPTING, REQUIRE MASSIVE FUCKING TEAMS OF MODELLERS, ARTISTS, ANIMATORS ETC. Yeah, the animations are pretty crazy now. Especially the way Square rigs their characters with hundreds of bones. The animation systems for drapery, hair and inverse kinematic are pretty complicated.
The other place that receives a lot of programming time is the shaders nowadays too.
Consoles are upgraded in order to prove technical fidelity. If you want an example of older games having more content, SMT I and II both have more content than SMT III.
Kevin Nelson
OOOOOPPPPP COME OUT COME OUT IVE GOT A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU
Leo Ramirez
Yeah. Literal blocks and sticks attached to each other has more soul than a game where a single scene's textures has more data than the entire original game combined
Dylan Gutierrez
>justpretendingtoberetarded
Brandon Hall
>paying for the same game multiple time the absolute state of SOnY
Christopher Hughes
I'm here bitch
Jackson Myers
>other has more soul than a game where a single scene's textures has more data than the entire original game combined Why do people keep saying this like one hundred times in this thread? It's all phrased the same exact way too. It's all "this has more data in one _______ than the whole of the original". Why can't you people just just say "this one looks better"?
Elijah Taylor
t. zoomers I bet this game is older than you lmao
Justin Ward
I saved up for FF7 in grade 4 or 5 because my friend at school told me about some really cool sounding boss fights and shiet. Face-to-face like, like how people used to share information for well over 99% of the existence of humans.
Carson Parker
One was created by a small team of 50 people, the other was created by one of hundreds of poorly paid graduates who have died inside already
Jaxson Parker
FF7 fags are boomers now and can afford to blow $700 on a system and set of games for muh nostalgia.
I would have taken an actual remake which updates the 3D models and retouches the backgrounds. Maybe even get higher quality sound. Seeing this complete rework and new gameplay I'm wondering why they didn't just make a whole new game with that effort. The only reason I can think of is cashing in on that nostalgia and charging 3 times for it.
Jason Ramirez
Kill yourself you casual fucking drone
Hudson Hill
>expecting them to model a whole mountain no
Daniel Kelly
Cope
Jace Allen
No, it's actually the entire industry admitting that and it is true, it should be fucking obvious. Graphics ruined gaming.
Jacob Young
Good, because in that last thread after I told you that you didn’t know what about what it takes to make a game like this one you claimed that the remake should have taken a shorter time to make because the devs don’t have to worry about things like story, music, writing etc. your exact words were >A large chunk of game development is coming up with the story, characters, music, setting etc. But they have all that already, it's done. It's ready to go, they can just jump right in to the technical side of things. I didn’t see this until the thread got archived but here I can tell you straight up that your claim is fucking stupid, first of all things like story and writing take the shortest amount of time to develop, in fact if you read a game dev journal of pretty much any game you’d know that devs focus 90% of their work on the game itself and save things like writing until the very end, in fact most companies don’t even hire dedicated “writers” they just have the developers already doing other things focus instead on this aspect, not to mention that the remake not only needs to have a new script written which but also needs to completely voice acted out, you think that because it’s a remake this makes it take less time than a typical game? That’s ridiculous the gameplay style of the remake is completely different and so will things like the physics of the game and the environments, the remake will be a full on 3d game compared to the top view style of the original, not to mention every single asset from the game will have to be redone, and yes this includes the music as they obviously won’t use the fucking same music from the ps1 era, they are gonna use the same tune sure but a countless number of tracks will have to be recorded again and recomposed to fit a more modern style. Your claim that the remake should take less time is absurd. You clearly just have a “OLD GOOD NEW BAD” mentality
James Young
How can grown up men not get the fact that recreating the entire '97 game in today's graphics and mechanics without skipping anything and maybe even adding/changing stuff ala REmake 2 is probably gonna make the final product the biggest videogame ever made? Mind you I'm not talking about quality here, fuck SE after the Versus XIII fiasco but asking why the remake will take longer to make than a 2GB PS1 from the late 90s is fucking moronic, especially coming from people that live and breathe videogames every day of their lives.
This, this isnt a remake so much as it is an adaptation
The core gameplay isnt even the same, this is like if Ocarina of Time was remade into a Dark Souls clone
Xavier Robinson
hey fuck you the only thing bad about crisis core was some wonky translated lines they should've rewrote, the game was pure heart.
Carson Jones
Absolutely on point. Fuck this shit.
Brody Carter
Because that's not even remotely what they're doing? If you think they're keeping every scene from the original game intact, you must be a child.
Jonathan Baker
It's not just SE, everyone fucking does it now and I have a sneaking suspicion that fighting game DLC had a huge impact in making this a normal thing. In the old fighting games you'd have a complete cast, but now everyone expects a fighting game to have a season 1 full of dlc characters before the game is even out, which helps normalize it all. Fighting games aren't entirely responsible, but the practice did begin to get popular when they started doing it as well. We went from "expansion packs" to "buy the other half of the game, which we are selling to you separately on purpose". I'd say vote with your wallet but that doesn't work and nobody wants to stop giving these cunts money, so fuck it.
I'm not excited for the remake for that very same reason. Original FF games had so much content, it's impossible for it to be present base game in modern times because they'll just sell it all to you for an extra $25-$30 a pop, meaning the game will probably cost you, in the long run, about $150 to play the complete version. Instead of developing it all in the 8+ years they're gonna take anyway, they'd rather develop ONE part for 8+ years and sell you the other. It's almost like you're buying a fucking car or something, handing over monthly payments for a goddamn video game. The absurdity seems to be lost in the modern game crowd though, so to hell with it. People nowadays defend companies instead of calling them out, so what the fuck do I know.
Julian Turner
The community has already done a lot of the work with mods.
Are the negativity justified? Are people still skeptical of SE due to their fuck up with 15? Are people pissed about how they changed the battle system from ATB to action?
Connor Lee
What mod is this? I know there was one I tried to download a long time ago similar to this but I kept getting an unknown error and I gave up
Nicholas Hughes
Then why not make a new game instead
William Bell
You actually think this is about memory size? The problem is bigger better tech has given us less game to play. Instead of putting it on multiple discs they're admitting that a game from over 2 decades ago is so big and so much work just to replicate with better graphics that they have to charge multiple times to recoup the cost.
Technology should give us more, not less but flashier. Memory size be damned. It could be 5TB but the fact is we're being asked to buy a fraction of a game because going forward took us backwards.
Justin White
I'm 33
Mason Brown
>Mmm, yes please feed me more of your delicious shit Square
Brandon Gonzalez
Both were designed by a handful of people. The people doing the grunt work doesn't have input on design of the game
Kayden Jones
I said they have the framework AND THAT DOES SAVE TIME.
Even if it's only 10% of what they need, it's still time saved. Regardless of whether it all needs to be remade, they know what it's supposed to look and sound like which is a time saver and you can't argue otherwise. They've had 3 years, it should be on shelves right now.
I know what it takes to make games and I know remaking this one is a huge undertaking, but they have the staff and the money to do it so stop defending them like it's poor ol Squeenix up against the world. They're a multi billion dollar company with thousands of employees. My main point is I'm just blown away that any company would admit so shamelessly that their newer games are so bereft of actual content that when they remake one of their older ones it's like making 3 of their new games. It disgusts me to my core. I want to spit on every Squeenix higher up from the past 20 years.
The community should stop doing any kind of work, if it makes it look like a mobile game.
Adam Lewis
Your logic doesn't make sense at all. They're basically doing this because they don't want to take a decade to release one game, and are instead releasing multiple fully fleshed out games over time. They're not only trying not to sacrifice the scale of the original, they're making it even bigger. I swear, you faggots will bitch about anything.
Noah Roberts
It's a sad state of affairs,I never thought I'd see the day where people defend and PRAISE companies for jewing them. They defend them like it's their fucking grandmother being bullied.
It's only going to get worse over time, artforms don't crash like societies or empires do. Look at movies, rock solid decline into trash since their peak in the 70's/80's.
Joseph Rodriguez
You can pick and choose what you want. People have slowly been rerendering the backgrounds for a long time now.
No need to, already played it 13 times, 10 of them to full 100% completion when I was younger (all chars lvl 99, all materias on master, all enemy skills, etc)
Angel King
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Justin Ward
>They're basically doing this because they don't want to take a decade to release one game, and are instead releasing multiple fully fleshed out games over time No, they're doing it for money.
If they split the game into 3 and throw in some """New""" content (padding) they can justify charging you $60 three fucking times just to get one game. You're a retard if you can't see this.
Charles Peterson
SOULLESS
Josiah Watson
this post again
Luis Flores
Who said anything about length you illiterate cunt?
CONTENT. C.O.N.T.E.N.T.
Minigames, side quests, weapons, many and varied locations, characters, music, FMV's and so on. Fucking go away until you reach 18, you fucking peanut brain.
Landon Sanders
Well not $180 but adjusted for inflation a $60 from 1997 is like $95 today
Jacob Phillips
ohhh digging!
Jaxon Howard
>being this quick to judge You don't know what you're talking about
>Cloud doesn't show any indication he is suffering
This has to be bait.
Thomas Thomas
Ok, then FF15 indeed beats FF13 in that.
Jonathan Fisher
Keep in mind when you buy it that you have doomed all future games to try this same strategy of dividing their games into three installments. You are helping this business model become more widespread and common.
Justin Hughes
I want Aerith to sit on my face
Anthony Morgan
>defending Square I have said numerous times that Square is a bunch of niggers, but regardless do you have any idea how much longer it would take to make this remake than it would to make the original game, and also the story is not the “framework” other than the story itself there are pretty much no assets from the original game that can be reused, everything has to be redone from scratch, and what company’ admitted that new games are devoid of content, new games have literally thousands of times the content that old games did, in fact new games have so much content that some of them are completely overwhelming. If you came here and said “old games are better than new games” I would say that’s subjective and I can’t really argue it, but saying that “old games have more content” is objectively wrong, try to take a game like red dead 2, or monster hunter world and put it on the ps1, the ps1 would be literally incapable of handling that many assets at once, the fact remains that saying old games have “more content” is wrong, you could say they have “better content” and that would just be your opinion, but saying new games have “less content” is completely wrong. As I said you have the typical “OLD GOOD NEW BAD MENTALITY”
Ian Garcia
Same, but for Aeris instead.
Lincoln Wood
An important part of the narrative is Cloud going to do snowboarding after Aeris death, so I guess it'll be snowboarding.
I wonder if we'll be able to change clothes or if there'll be visual customziation capabilities tho.
Zachary Richardson
No it doesn't, FF15 is fucking dreck. It has no fucking content, it has the main story and a bunch of copy paste trash for side content.
Games sell for $60 now, I don't care when it's from they sell for $60.
Kevin Long
post webm of just her lips
Chase Murphy
>No, they're doing it for money. This just in: developers create games to sell them. Are you inbred?
Cameron Nelson
>ew games have literally thousands of times the content that old games did A million "go kill the goat" quests is not content retard. It's called padding. Modern games are 90% padding.
Andrew Kelly
>try to take a game like red dead 2, or monster hunter world and put it on the ps1, the ps1 would be literally incapable of handling that many assets at once That's technical limitations, you couldn't have 3D open worlds on PS1. That's not the same thing at all.
And RDR2 and MHW are both games NOTORIOUS for having no fucking content, especially compared to their predecessors.
Liam Collins
user theyre ripping you off lol
Sebastian Hall
>you couldn't have 3D open worlds on PS1 That's where you're wrong kiddo
Lets talk about the FMV's we want to see for scenes we didn't get to see in the original game. For me: >Sephiroth's attack on Shinra Headquarters >Sephiroth vs the Midgar Zolom >How Sephiroth snuck onto the boat >More of Dyne >Maybe more of Shinra's plotting >More of the Turks >Lots of cutscenes showing how beautiful and amazing Cosmo Canyon is >Cloud having flashbacks throughout the journey to the reactor in his hometown
I could go on and on.
Evan Hall
>>Sephiroth vs the Midgar Zolom Childhood is Tifa way to miss the whole point of that scene
Elijah Evans
Yuffie when she steals your materia and hides it in her shorts.
in 1997 they stillw ere $60, so if they sell the same, but the price has not been adjusted for inflation, and the games are more expensive to make now than 20 years ago, the math says....?
Jeremiah Scott
Are you a cock loving faggot?
Fuck companies, I don't care if they make money. You can't sell one game three times for full price. That's jewish greed and any retard that enables it deserves to be shot.
Justin Morales
>the math says....? Don't waste so much money developing shiny graphics. That's what the math says you boot licking faggot.
Charles Morales
>Sephiroth's attack on Shinra Headquarters >Sephiroth vs the Midgar Zolom >How Sephiroth snuck onto the bo
None of them were Sephiroth though, he never snuk into the boat, because it was a mind controlled minion by Jenova.
Jesus christ these threads on FFVIIRE are showing that people either has never actually played the original game, forgot about it, or really didn't pay any fucking attention.
Luke Lopez
>Lets talk about the FMV's we want to see for scenes we didn't get to see in the original game. >FMVs Why would you want this? In-engine cutscenes are better, because they use the same assets as gameplay. FMV make the game feel more artificial by using different assets from gameplay.
David Garcia
I just wanted a 1 for 1 remake with better graphics like RE1.
Wyatt James
You are a retard.
Ryan Robinson
HD was a mistake
John Gray
How can people be excited for this game ?
We already know the story, the combat isn't turn based and the first episode has been announced for a long fucking time.
There is no way the three episodes will be released in the next 10 years.
I like to see the pretty graphics and Aerith and all, but I don't feel any hype.
Isaiah Jones
How did it take you?
Noah Ortiz
I used to think that childishly proven wrong theory was right too user. Maybe some day you will grow up.
Eli Sanders
If they do it like .hack did, I'd be fine with it.
Disc 1: >max level is 40, but 30ish is where you'll be if you didn't grind at the end of the game >materia only goes up to level 2 >start with one limit break, but can only get their 1.2 in the first game >redxiii will be the last party member >game's final boss will be the highway boss and some new boss to make it a bigger ending >continue plus will be there, in which you do a bunch of side quests in midgar
The WEAPONs awakening for the first time. I'm also hoping they add a Sapphire WEAPON boss fight this time around.
Lincoln Young
Actually, you can. Because they will. And there's nothing you can do about it
Xavier Bailey
Does it actually go apart?
Nathan Anderson
Why are you defending a company?
Why are you defending being gouged for 3x more than what you would normally pay?
Why do you WANT to pay 3x more than you should?
Christian Bell
Audience for games in the 10s is 10 times the audience from the late 90s
Dominic Cook
>max level is 40 Half the fun of ff7 is grinding early, getting early limits and enemy skills and nuking everything.
Isaac Johnson
You're right they should put out a game with a 10 billion dollar budget instead
Connor Baker
nope
none of the fun minigames will be included, calling it now
Ayden Green
>Why are you defending a company? Attacking somebody for engaging in the conversation.
>Why are you defending being gouged for 3x more than what you would normally pay? Nobody is being gouged, this is just you misrepresenting the situation because you're dishonest.
>Why do you WANT to pay 3x more than you should? Should? Who decides that? People are willing to pay what the product is worth to them. The $60 standard is arbitrary and you're getting hung up on it without considering the value of what you're getting in return. A theoretical $60 version of the game that comes in one piece is undoubtedly worth less than what we're going to get. People are willing to pay more because we're getting more. If that doesn't end up being true, then would be the time to complain.
Nolan Gutierrez
You sound like an actual faggot
Nicholas Cox
But of course.
Its 5.5kg when fully assembled, pretty hard to weld.
>You're right they should put out a game with a 10 billion dollar budget instead They should stop spending millions of $'s on graphics.
Sebastian Rogers
I respect you, user.
Wyatt Scott
So my question is this. Isn't PS5 going to be announced soon? How will they handle that?
Matthew Parker
>people are surprised when FF7, a game known for pushing graphical standards even further beyond, has a remake that also pushes it further
Eli Hernandez
Part one is going to be a cross-generation title. Part two will be PS5 only.
Jason Cox
FFXV hasn't even reached 9 million sales, while FFVII has more than 11, the size of the audence does not matter, but the number of sales.
Carson Garcia
But did you find the hidden Ribbon in the Gay's Cliff caverns?
Jackson Green
They start from scratch, like they did With Final Fantasy Versus. / FF XV
Connor Butler
A funny thing, the shipping cost more than the sword itslef because of the weight.
Owen Walker
Just going from ff7 to ff10 was eye opening. FF7 had full world exploration with areas unnecessary for the main quest but with content to do. >ff10 is nothing but linear hallways and the airship isn't free roam, it's just fast travel
It's been a long downward trend
James Myers
>a game known for pushing graphical standards even further beyond
You don't NEED the most shiniest, expensive graphics that exist for your game.
If you can't budget a game without splitting it into three parts, protip: you're fucking spending too much money on graphics retards so dial them back to reasonable fucking levels.
Yeah, afther the 3 original runs, the 10 for full 100% I did with guides.
Carter Smith
>Attacking somebody for engaging in the conversation. What? Stop assuming everyone is aware of your zoomer thought process and explain properly. pay? >Nobody is being gouged, this is just you misrepresenting the situation because you're dishonest. Paying 3x for one game is being gouged. >Should? Who decides that? 50+ years of consumers and game companies reaching a cold war like agreement that $60 is the upper limit for a video game, that's who you stupid fuck. >The $60 standard is arbitrary and you're getting hung up on it It's important, otherwise companies would charge as much as they want for games. >without considering the value of what you're getting in return. A PS1 game that sold for $60 in the 90's is what I'm getting in return. >A theoretical $60 version of the game that comes in one piece is undoubtedly worth less than what we're going to get. People are willing to pay more because we're getting more. If that doesn't end up being true, then would be the time to complain. The "more" you're getting is worthless graphics whoring and padding to justify the pricetag of $60 for 3 chunks of one game you drooling corporate drone.
Elijah Thompson
>guides Aside from the piano there is literally nothing that's obscure enough to justify that.
Josiah Cooper
This board IS for people who actually don't play vidya to bitch and moan about anything but actually discussing about vidya. Seriously, you literally cannot discuss about the remake in this shithole anymore without these nostalgia ridden manbabies shitting it up. They are their own version of XV-kun. Fuck this shit hole.
Eli Price
Tell that to the marketing department.
I guess you are not the owner, or a director at a AAA studio, huh?
Andrew Wood
>You haven't even seen the game yet, you stupid black asshole. You don't know what they're doing or what the fuck they have. Oh the irony
William Cruz
No, but I found no other way to be sure I was actually doing 100%.
Ryder Adams
Yep. Playing it on an emulator on my phone.
Austin Martin
Did Cloud always have bolts glued to his shoulder armor?
Andrew Morris
yes
Jose Reyes
longer than 12, really?
David Brown
>A PS1 Final Fantasy has so much more content than a PS4 Final Fantasy that they have to cut it up into 3 parts and spend probably 5+ years remaking it in HD
No shit retard? PS1 games didnt require a quarter of the effort that devs puts on the visuals now. It was a thousand times easier to make games back then.
Sebastian Rogers
So, KH3 has a lot of content then?
Jacob Diaz
Still in the scene it was "sephiroth". That's what the OP meant, how they'll recreate the scene in modern times. Jesus fucking christ, you manbabies are just bitching for the sake of bitching.
Sebastian Phillips
XIII trilogy is the equivalent of a single PS1 FF with fully voiced and animated cutscenes