How would you feel if Pokémon added an ATB battle system?

ATB is a type of turn based battle system, it prioritizes quicker thinking.

Think final fantasy 4-9's combat. A bar gradually fills, and when it does you can move. If pokemon adopted ATB you could control all 6 on the field at once.

Don't.
It would only work by nerfing the fuck out of everything to accomodate the fact you can get 2 turns in a row.

puke. Ugh.

All 6 would be dumb, but bringing back triples and making them VGC standard with ATB would be neat.

It’s shit. Speed is always OP and by far the most important stat in battle systems like that. Getting, say, 1.5x more turns than your opponent on top of going first is an absurd advantage and lets you completely outclass them with buff/support/utility skills. In Pokemon where setup = gg this is doubly true.

That sounds awful and hard to keep track of

NO!

MUH AUTISM DEMAND I NEED 90 WHOLE SECONDS TO CAREFULLY DECIDE TO USE PROTECT OR NOT!

It'd be balanced by having more than 1v1s. Turn it into 3v3s with a switch out option like FFX. You'd need to make a couple of changes like some kind of aggro mechanic for high HP pokemon (taunt for example), or slightly boost slow heavy pokemon like golem.

How about we don't turn Pokémon in FF?

when poke'mon fights are one a time how does this mechanic make it better? Now it's just a 6-on-6 circle jerk because if you can spam through your skills fast enough you better believe the AI is way ahead of you. What a stupid idea.

haha in this fictional scenario where the developers add an ATB system you already assume they will screw it up by making it unbalanced?
haha geez man, people are ridiculous

it would only make the faster ones even more OP

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4 (Yours) on 1-6 (Opponant's) battles just like a standard RPG.

System in place copies Final Fantasy X where you can see the turn order on the side of the screen.

Pokemon can be switched out at the cost of whoever's turn it is.

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actually some hybrid system, so faster pokemon could attack more often, is my wet dream.

>6 on 6
oh great fast things with earthquake become even more op
and intimidate
so all welcome your lion of balance overlords

That'd be stupid since ATB is only interesting with three or more part members at once.

why are we trying to copy FF's battle system when said battle system is actually worse than pokemon's?

What if Pokemon had press turn?

fuck that, give me a press turn pokemon game with 4vs4 or 6vs6
We already got all those types implemented it could work

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ATB isnt interesting with less than 5 though

Press turn would turn the comp scene into a complete shitshow

quick attack would be worthless in ATB

They would have to completely change every other aspect of the battle system to make it work. I'd rather see it in a spinoff game than changing the main line games. The main games have had 20 years to perfect and balance the battle system, and it's the best it's ever been (assuming you play VGC, the format the game is balanced around). No reason to break what works.

Have it be relatively weak but increase the speed of your next gauge charge. A lot of moves could be overhauled or tweaked for the new system. Nobody's saying it has to replace turn based pokemon either, it could just be a spinoff.

that's fucking stupid unless you put in your command and then wait for the bar to fill, because it's QUICK ATTACK not NEXT QUICK ATTACK

Presumably priority would work by giving you extra actions.
>select Quick Attack
>after the attack your bar is full immediately and you get another attack right away
>select Whirlwind or some negative priority attack
>instead of going off right away you'd have to wait for your bar to fill again
>slower ones like Trick Room might have a longer cast time
Really the entire system and every move would have to change.

The move would be redesigned as many things would have to be. How would Prankster work? How would the Scope Lens work? How would Pursuit work?

well in FF7 you could change it into wait mode, so the game wouldn't let the next turn active until you choose your commands.

There's already a game that does that though.

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You are trusting Gamefreak of all companies to make a balanced game.

Have realistic expectations.

The metagame of Pokemon has been terrible for a long time now and adding ATB will only make it worse.

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>gamefreak can't even remotely balance 1v1 turn based
>Meta game is already a speed stat circle jerk
>Let's make it more complex

It doesn't necessarily need to be Gamefreak.

Let's go one step further. If you could give the future of the pokemon series to any developer, who would it be?

Genius Sonority

Slow pokemon would become useless. Pokemon is fine the way it is

Lets get the meme developers out of the way.
Story by Obsidian and gameplay by Platinum.

I think you mean, Pokemon developed by Monolith Soft.

Most based post all week.

>swords dance blaziken with speed boost
Yeah no

>If you could give the future of the pokemon series to any developer, who would it be?
atlus or falcom.

>Select quick attack
>Can Quick attack again right away
>And again
>And again
>And another 25 times
>Use Hydro Pump or Ice beam to finish it off.
Nice

I miss their Gamecube games

People who don't play competitive pokemon shouldn't have opinions on competitive pokemon.

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Just don't allow quick attack to be used twice consecutively. It could fail on second use like protect. Protect and detect are completely broken on paper too.

Just make the battles a 3d arena fighter.

Here's another thought - don't adopt your retarded system.

The fuck do you mean "added?" That would be a complete overhaul of the entire combat system. That's not an "addition." I swear to god, no other series makes Yea Forums as retarded as Pokemon does.

Mad. The ATB system is horrible and plagues any game that has it.

>I swear to god, no other series makes Yea Forums as retarded as Pokemon does.
Its actually hilarious. Its like every other series Yea Forums whines about casuals trying to change it, and then when it comes to Pokemon its all these retards going UMMMMM HOW ABOUT YOU MAKE IT REAL TIME SO I CAN GET INTO COMPETITIVE PLEASE?

YoU mUsT bE fUn At PaRtIeS

Is this some retarded twitter meme? Why did you respond like a 12 year old?

>you could control all 6 on the field at once
That would be retarded with Pokemon's rock-paper-scissors type system.

But then it would be barely different from Shin Megami Tensei

I'd like to see some kind of grid pokemon game where you could actively dodge into directions with your mons.

Make the entire game based on rotation battles. Rebalance everything around it. Was the most fun thing they've come up with and they nixed it after a single game

At the very least make double battles standard

We really need another Genius Sonority made Pokemon game.

Fromsoft.
Fuck it.

They are never ever going to change Pokemons battle formula ever. Not now, and not in 15 years.

Even Let's Go which was supposed to reinvent the series in a way decided to keep the boring drawn out and uninteresting battle system

ATB is a shittier system than turn based. It's a useless inbetween in the middle of turn based and real time. There no such things as a good ATB game.

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protect should've been gutted long ago.
worst move in the game

Seriously. The only decent games that use ATB are decent DESPITE it. It doesn't add anything and only takes away by funneling people into the "strategy" of mashing your way through most battles., rather than taking the time to think what might be the best move in a particular situation.