BEHOLD MY SMT thread that is a bit different
BEHOLD MY SMT thread that is a bit different
Jack Lee
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Adrian Robinson
I've just been playing SJR and I'm at Shekinah but haven't beaten it quite yet, but fighting Shekinah after coming off of fighting Mem Aleph made me think about something I hadn't really noticed before in how ATLUS has changed their design philosophy towards boss fights. A lot of the more difficult fights in Nocturne or Strange Journey had me spend very little time in the actual fight, I would usually die in a turn or two and the challenge would be in fusing a team that would perfectly counter the boss, and then when I go into the fight I would either find my team doesn't work and die immediately or I would beat the boss no problem, and that's how a boss like Mem Aleph is. Shekinah, and a lot of bosses in IV:A and, to a lesser degree, IV feel like there's a lot more strategy in the actual battle though, even if you go in well prepared, I feel like more of the fight is in the actual fight as opposed to in the preparation for it, as it was in Nocturne and vanilla Strange Journey.
Does anyone else feel like they're design philosophy changed with bosses since the 3DS era started? It's not something that had ever really occurred to me before now.
Connor Johnson
>and, to a lesser degree, IV
IV didn't do this shit once, every boss was garbage, but the DLC bosses were more like your first description, especially Masakado
Aiden Rodriguez
I can kind of see it. Maybe that's why IVA has my favorite boss fights.
Cameron Wright
You did go neutral, right guys?
I mean theres no downsides, you get to side with your fellow humans and protect their interests, get to be a hero among them, kick Lucifers and Merkabahs ass, you fuck the cute monkey and shove it to The White.
Daniel Johnson
I actually appreciate the bosses in the IV duology a lot. In general the dialogue options affecting what happens in combat is great. You'd have to purposely pick the wrong shit to buff the boss's stats though.
Easton Brown
I kinda noticed it in the SMT IV dlc fights which are borderline impossibke even if you have a team that perfectly counters them.
Sanat for example will use gaea rage more often if you repel his physical and attack and exploit his weakness.
So what you have to do is bait out his other less powerfull attacks so that he won't spam his strongest attacks.
They didn't make it as hard as that in IV:A, but I feel like they balanced the bossfights around the fact that you will exploit their weakness as much as possible.
Odin for example has a combo where he uses will of thunder to pierce give his thunder skills pierce, concentrate and thunder reign to completely fuck you up.
Vishnu flynn is a bit different his weaknesses changes if I remember correctly and he does massive damage so you have to try to waste his turns as much as possible with imposing stance and buff/debuffs so that he will have less turns to fuck you up.
Connor Martin
I think they unironically improved the AI of bosses?
Lucas Campbell
It's time to get this thread started.
>Most important hope for SMTV
>Favorite final boss in the series
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Asher Jenkins
>shove it to The White.
Why would you want to shove it to them when they were right.
Caleb Brown
>Commit genocide so powerful that it put Merkabah to shame
>Kill everyone to "escape" suffering like little bitches instead of directly solving the problem
>Only managed to delete their specific universe out of the million of universes that exist in the Axiom
>YHVH exists in his own personal dimension so it's not like the White actually effected him by nuking everything with the Yamato Generator
The White are a "Bad Ending" for a reason.
Angel Jones
I finally got some magatama, what i'm I in for
Isaac Walker
>Most important hope for SMTV
More Kozuka tunes
>Favorite final boss in the series
Metatron in Devil Survivor Overclocked
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Bunny and/or Abel
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Strange Journey Redux
Jeremiah Hill
Tyler Sanders
>Most important hope for SMTV
That it can stand on its own two feet and isn't just Nocturne 2.0 with IV:A's combat and fusion. I know that for some just having all the things that made other games in the series great wrapped into one package would be ideal, but I'd be pretty disappointed if the game didn't end up feeling like it has its own identity, which I'm a bit worried it won't.
>Favorite final boss in the series
Probably IV:A's YHVH, but only if you side with Dagda. The reasoning for going to fight him in the Bonds route feels kind of contrived just so they could force a YHVH fight in, and I don't really like the interjections from your friends in the Bonds route.
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Raidou, no question.
>Megaten game you're currently playing
I'm just finishing SJR, and next I'll probably go back to Soul Hackers, which I once started but couldn't get into a couple of year ago, or if... seeing as it was finally translated. I'd like to finish at least one of those before P5R comes out anyway.
Thomas Miller
>exists in his own personal dimension outside of that particular universe
>there are millions of other universes
By your logic every ending is pointless because there can still be another universe where humans are observing and therefore giving power to YHVH. The White ending was perfectly fine until they had to write more bullshit later on that made the already strange setting of IV even more nonsensical.
Thomas Lewis
>YHVH exists in his own personal dimension so it's not like the White actually effected him by nuking everything with the Yamato Generator
That's only the case because the fan-fiction writers of IV:A couldn't handle how right the White were, so it's an irrelevant point, and none of your other points change how right they were.
Jack Wright
>Metatron in Devil Survivor Overclocked
I hated that fight honestly, which is a shame because I love Metatron. I had a really bad build to be fair though, so while it's my own fault to some degree, I didn't have a great time with the fight still.
Jaxon Collins
>Most important hope for SMTV
Balanced alignments aka no more Neutraljerking
>Favorite final boss in the series
SMT4A YHVH
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Raidou or Bunny
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Soul Hackers
Daniel Perez
>>Most important hope for SMTV
I hope they make the routes somewhat good.
In SMT it's usually either "chaos/law bad neutral slightly less bad" or "chaos/law bad neutral good"
Even in nocturne that did away with alignments and the only truly good ending is the route where you return everything to normal just like many other neutral endings.
I guess there is true demon ending, but that was added later on and even in that you just end up being Lucy's boytoy.
In my opinion DeSu1/2 did alignments and reasons the best, all endings are pretty good in their own right and all have their own merits except for the obvious bad ending.
Also it would be cool if each route has it's own unique dungeons and bosses.
instead of the usual where you fight the same bosses and go through the same dungeons with the only functional difference being the dialogue and cutscenes.
I know there are some exceptions like in SJ where pillar lady gaga is the finalboss, but you still fight mem aleph in both neutral and law instead of neutral and law having their own unique bossfight.
>favorite bossfight
Denying YHVH's divinity was really cool in Dagda's route.
>favorite protagonist
The fresh king
>SJ redux
Gabriel Perry
Null: All
David Cooper
Does nemissa bump Hitomis bust? I dont remember her being such a titty monster.
Landon Hall
Post more of my monkey wife
William Brooks
>Most important hope for SMTV
Gameplay is balanced well enough to where all styles are equally powerful and there isn't a clear "best" between them. Or just straight up copy IVA's, I wouldn't even mind.
>Favorite final boss in the series
IVA
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Flynn
>Megaten game you're currently playing
SJR
Tyler Thomas
>The Chaos rep in V won't be as fun as hoy boy
Ughh.. Bros..
Logan Cruz
Good dungeons
Harihara
Rye Dough
Record Breaker
Brayden Watson
On the bright side maybe Lucifer will actually make an appearance in V.
John Turner
>Or just straight up copy IVA's, I wouldn't even mind.
IVA's mechanics truly were perfect.
The only thing I would change is that they should add a VIT and don't give magic pierce.
With awakened power all the spells felt kinda homogenized and it kinda made allmighty obsolete.
Also I think it takes away physical build's niche where it can hit virtually anything, but never hit any weaknesses which gives magic builds a nice contrast where mag may not hit as hard as str, but it has a lot more variety in what kind of damage you can do to abuse press turns.
Angel Brooks
Not even the IV guys could handle the White being right, hence why you had to kill em
IVA just made it worse
Hell Imagine an ending where the white help you kill YHVH, take the throne of the creator and just use it to nuke the multiverse so no more cycle shit could happen
Thomas Price
All that suffering, finally over. Truly the best alignment.
Liam Lee
I kinda want to see how Doi would design Lucy, not just the redesign of that crappy guest artist, but his own original design.
Maybe he can make that Lucy unleashed Kaneko was talking about where he has all 12 wings.
Henry Ortiz
>whitefags
Jason White
Who gives a shit what Burroughs thinks?
Gavin Roberts
>and don't give magic pierce.
Personally I'd get rid of pierce bypassing reflects too. Being able to completely ignore the entire enemy resistance system was dumb.
Ian Wilson
me bitch
Joseph Adams
I wish boss talking was implemented into regular gameplay.
Like just being able to fuck with the enemy via dialogue if possible. Like making them lose press turns, fucking with stats, altering behaviour.
Plus V keeping the expanded talk skills (fundraise, negotiate, trade, scout) from the IV duology and expanding on it with more.
Michael Price
Yeah, but you're a fag.
Owen Miller
>AI explicitly programmed to be biased towards neutral bitches about alignment that reveals the most flaws of neutral's outcomes
Who could have possibly seen this coming
Adam Bailey
*Smirks uncontrollably*
Andrew Foster
Colton Myers
I thought it was a nice trade off to STR builds.
You can never hit any weaknesses, but you never have to worry about getting resisted.
Gabriel Lee
I assume the expanded skills could work with the Gauntlet, but fuck calling them app points.
Benjamin Phillips
I’m glad V is coming to the switch, I can only imagine how much butchering Sony would do to content censoring.
Jace Carter
>Dagda is right
David Wood
Drop the top
Yeah it's cold
But you feel the heat
Connor Lopez
You're already hitting big dick phys damage and getting a free press turn because Asahi gave you smirk, without ever having to worry about mitigation. This isn't even wurld of str anymore, it's more like universe of str.
Grayson Thompson
>He's not a Neutral Samurai from the Kingdom of Mikado
What's your excuse fuckers? On another note, what settings do you want to see in SMTV? I really liked the Medieval setting of Mikado. Shame you couldn't explore it like you could Tokyo.
Carson Wood
You know what would be cool.
If they made 2 games like DDS that were planned to be 2 parters from the start.
The first game focuses on the crash of society where everything starts out as our normal world, but everything slowly goes to hell as demons slowly start to come more to the foreground untill socuety just crashes.
The second game has you traveling through terminals all over the world to fight factions based around their native pantheons of gods.
What do you guys think?
Carter Lee
But ut's even easieemr with Mag, because every boss has a weakness abd MAG also crits with smirk so you get to crit and hit a weakness on top of that.
Justin Stewart
Hey you, distract Lucifer for me.
Samuel Perez
i'd rather prefer it to be in one package but I wouldn't mind it as long as it's done well
William Rodriguez
Would you guys have a problem with V being stylish a la p5?
Lincoln Robinson
What would happen if Nanashi and Asahi didn't accept Odin deal to go open the Ark?
Would Dagda force Nanashi to do it? He didn't seem to be able to force you to do complex shit.
Also, without Divine Powers happening, would Flyn succed on his plans to save humans?
Levi Campbell
Good dungeons
Tie between Manitou and Polaris. If mainline only then 4A YHVH
Soul Hackerman
I'm not
Caleb Gray
>V being stylish a la p5?
Like reusing Persona 5's aesthetic? Of course that would be bullshit. It would be lazy.
All of the SMT and Persona games are on point aesthetically except maybe Persona 1
Elijah Allen
Luke Allen
As long as it fits the game and atmosphere but IV/A both already have great UI design so I expect nothing less.
Chase Roberts
I liked Mikado's setting alot as well
In my ideal works SMT IV would be on a home console, fully 3d and you spent the first half of the game in Mikado doing samurai shit and reaching tokyo is the big midgame twist.
After infernal and Blasted tokyo both Wally and Johnny realize that law/chaos as kind of suck so you their law and chaos ending or more akin to the redux law/chaos as in an ending thar has the core ideas of law/chaos without it actually sucking.
Ian Jones
IV/IV A were already cool, they could expand it some more and we are cool
Easton Hall
I thought so too, but atkus never made a fuck huge game and I would rather have 2 games where the first and second half I just mentioned are properly developed instead of cramming that shit into one game where it gets kinda rushed.
Kayden Wright
I would like for it to be stylish, but not in the same way that P5 is. I like P5's style, but SMTV should have its own style.
Dylan Edwards
Adding to this roses and the color gold and red seems to be the aesthetic.
Kevin Hill
I feel like Gold will be the primary color of V.
Liam Ramirez
Why haven't you played the first game, Yea Forums?
Zachary Thomas
SMT IV neutral is what happens if Nanashi choose to stay dead and never freed the divine powers.
Also Dagda forced you to do shit by keeping you alive.
If Odin didn't ask you, Dagda would tell you to free Krishna and if you refused he would just stop giving you your lifesupport and let you die.
Justin Moore
>Like making them lose press turns,
You can already do this
Brody Nelson
They cut IV's original script, so maybe it would've worked better if it was split in two.
But then how would you handle compendium and stat shit
Luis Gutierrez
I'm kinda hoping they'll go back to SMT1's pre-apocalypse start.
It might be a good move to pull in the Persona crowd, too- have it start as your average highschool shit before everything goes to hell.
Isaac Smith
Personafags are single digit IQ, I don't want them ruining the series anymore than they already have, like the fate system from Devil Survivor 2 or parts of SMTIVA's story. not to mention they are just super obnoxious in general
Samuel Walker
You lose your comp during your last battle and get a new one in the newgame, but it has none of your demons or compedium.
Somewhere during the tailend of the game you can get your old compedium data back with your old fusion autism demons you registered if you have a savefile from the first game.
Christian Morgan
Based but whinypilled
Colton Morris
>FATE SYSTEM BAD
IVA story was fine too with based Dadga
Jack Watson
>First hour of the game is highschool sim.
>Immediately present multiple girls to "Social Link"
>Nukes drop as you go out with her.
Cameron Smith
>Starts right after you leave high school
>Demon program drops on the Internet
>Tokyo gets nuked
Nice bait Atlus..
Wyatt Price
>Try not to feel too bad
Jeremiah Mitchell
I think she's hot.
She should be fuckable.
Nolan Hughes
>school bully goes full Ozawa
Adrian Davis
>SMTIVA's story
That had nothing to do with Persona, it just has generic anime characters because its lazily written. Making the game take from SMT1 would do no harm either regardless of what crowd it pulls in.
Christian James
Is it true that the Final Fantasy remake will release on the same month as V?
Easton Jenkins
Where fuck did you get that from ?/
Asher Jackson
Based
Luke Young
Nobody knows the release dates for either game
Hudson Ward
Yes, because they both release never ever.
Dylan Sanders
We still know jack shit about V.
Luis Campbell
Why was the Chaos Hero so scared of this guy when he was decked out and could shoot fireballs from his bare hands?
Jonathan Edwards
Not him, but the SMT IV duology was basically I & II rehashed. I think it's time to stop referencing them for awhile.
Leo Allen
Are I and II worth playing ?
Cooper Young
FOR
THE
KINGDOM
OF
MIKADO
Wyatt Ortiz
Which really hurts, since IV/A was "what if we rewrote I and II but made the story subpar instead?"
Eli Edwards
I agree to an extent, and I do want SMTV to have its own identity, but the way SMT1 started is something the series hasn't done anything like since Nocturne and it was barely a thing there. I feel like it's something that could be done for better reasons than just because SMT1 did it, so I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them do something similar in SMTV.
Yes, but in SMT1 you should try to get Estoma early on and then never get rid of them.
Brandon Rogers
Because he dumped in Str and vit
Christian Parker
I blame the atlusnewfags who want more otaku pandering bullshit in the games.
The concept of IV:A is actually pretty goismd, but they could have executed it way better.
Josiah Perez
>i and ii rehashed
It's nothing like these games though, even the stories and setting are vastly different.
Cooper Martin
I appreciate your craft, Pascal-user.
Hudson Richardson
There's a lot of references and similarities between them. Most of them blatantly there, like the dream sequence Flynn has of both Jonathan and Walter like Hero has of Chaos/Law hero at the beginning of the game.
Charles Rodriguez
Wasn't there a version where pascal has doggo's hat
Chase Cruz
Those are just parallels.
Kayden Ramirez
Jack Kelly
>Most important hope for SMTV
Well written alignments, reasons, whatever they plan to use for routes
>Favorite final boss in the series
YHWH (SMT4A version)
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Demi-Fiend
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Last one I played was SJR. Maybe P5 if that counts, but I didn't care much for it. The school system and social links always turned me off from Persona.
Samuel Phillips
>i and ii rehashed
>i and ii
>rehashed
Nope.
Andrew Nguyen
Only if you call Hitomi sexy in the beginning. This gives her a boost of estrogen in just the right spots.
Lincoln Williams
Ayoo Harlot, I think there's something wrong with your pet dog..
Eli Roberts
When Lucifer gave Demifiend the heart of a demon, what does that signify? Did he virtually sell his soul?
Julian Bailey
>Most important hope for SMTV
I'm already getting Nocturne vibes so I hope the story will be more mature and intellectually stimulating. I hated the moe bullshit in IV:A
>Favorite final boss in the series
Mem Aleph. Played through SJR on hard mode but had to drop it down to normal to beat her. Also had to fuse a frost ace to reflect some of her bullshit
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
SJR guy
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Nocturne, am in Nihilio now. Also playing P3 FES on and off.
Ryder Reyes
>Pascal will never be there for you
Caleb Johnson
>played SMTIV when it came out
>for whatever reason my autistic brain thought the smirking mechanic was cool, so whenever something good happened to me IRL I'd give a smirk
>now this is a habit I cannot break no matter how hard I try and everyone around me thinks I'm an asshole
Ryan Mitchell
isabeau is cute! cute!
Austin Mitchell
Julian Rivera
>my autistic brain thought the smirking mechanic was cool
But it is cool.
Jacob Morris
>Mexican Junpei
KEK
Nathan Gray
Only chads Smirk
Xavier Brooks
Just embrace the
>ニヤリ >:^)
Carter Taylor
>Most important hope for SMTV
dank ass oppressive atmosphere, another great soundtrack from Koduka and more designs from Doi like his concepts with IV:A's gameplay
Liam Thompson
based but also redpilled
Jose Edwards
When does Raidou get fun?
Oliver Adams
>Most important hope for SMTV
Release within the next 18 months
music and aesthetics on par with 4 (tall order)
not high schoolers (unlikely)
Daniel Anderson
If you're playing 1 only the story is fun, the 2nd one gameplay it's 10 times better than the first one
Liam Hernandez
But it IS cool
Zachary Wilson
When you accept that you're not going to enjoy the combat and just push through it so that you can enjoy everything else about the game.
Tyler Rogers
Please refrain from posting any more-
>it's a hoyboy thread
Oh bother.
Camden Gutierrez
Landon Perez
Which smt game should I emulate?
Brody Clark
Oh fuck that is not Jonathan....
Kayden Taylor
It could technically be a Johnny thread as well.
Daniel Wood
All of them
William Lewis
hoy
Robert Martinez
>Johnny
>Hoyjon
Such is a hoyboy's anagram making skill no?
Xavier Martin
Zelenin needs a good fuck
Alexander Reyes
Good to know.
I guess Ill just focus on the story and great atmosphere until I reach 2.
Elijah Reed
smt iv is a very good place to start oddly enough
strange journey redux could be ok too
Matthew Gutierrez
So i am about to play SMT IVA and i just want to know
>Can you make Flynn your slave?
>Is there any porn of Nanashi/Flynn?
Austin Baker
Don't get your hopes too high for Raidou 2's combat either, it's an improvement, but it's still not great.
Luke Davis
Yes but that is gay
Matthew Butler
What stats do I even focus on in SH?
Just finished the first vision quest
Oliver Anderson
All but MAG, though you want it at at least 8 for the best armor
Anthony Edwards
Is the WiiU emulator strong enough to emulate Tokyo Mirage Session?
Henry Hernandez
The wiiU emulator wikia says that it its, even perfect in some cases
compat.cemu.info
Ian Hughes
>The music gets distorted after a while. Enabling RDTSC doesn't fix this issue.
Oh fie. For a game that is centered on music and idolshit, that is sort of a letdown. On a side note, was the WiiU emulator similar to the Project64 emulator where they optimized it to play Zelda games and had everything else as an afterthought?
Ryan Ortiz
>was the WiiU emulator similar to the Project64 emulator where they optimized it to play Zelda games and had everything else as an afterthought?
Exactly that, Zelda even got mods and stuff
Levi Morgan
Anybody got any advice for Kyūyaku Megami Tensei? I'm still on the first game, in Valhalla, and I'm shit at it.
Grayson Carter
Does this thread tread the path of Law, Chaos, or Neutral?
Jose Rogers
I feared as much. Nothing against Zelda, but developing an emulator to optimally play one game and leave the rest rubs me the wrong way. I guess if people were really wanting to play BotW and nothing else from the WiiU library, the emulator is perfect for them. Ah well, beggars can't be choosers. Thanks for the clarification.
Charles Lewis
wurld of vit
get demons
Caleb White
>Most important hope for SMTV
That it comes out
>Favorite final boss in the series
IV:A
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Bunny
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Just finished SJR. Dunno which game to play next. Maybe I'll replay Record Breaker.
Colton Murphy
>hoyboy thread with nary an ubergestalt or a record scratch in sight
what do you think, user?
Jace Rivera
>hook in personafags with generic waifus only to have them slaughtered by demons 3 hours in
Josiah Sanchez
You're a true hoyboy, user, be proud.
Jackson King
>Most important hope for SMTV
That the personafags that were writing IV:A don't try to shove friendshit into it. And that it's actually good and replayable and toned down on the DLC faggotery.
>Favorite final boss in the series
IV:A YHVH, amazing ost, challenging, boss lines and using Flynn and Satan in a second party is kino. Fuck bonds though. Lucifer in Nocturne is also kino+.
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Demi-Chad
>Megaten game you're currently playing
SJR
Mason Reed
>by demons
>not making them do it themselves
Bentley Sullivan
>2019
>not following the path of law
Luis Ortiz
>Most important hope for SMTV
That the "bitterness" group have the most say in developing the game and story while keeping the Old Guard and Personafriends influence to a minimum.
>Favorite final boss in the series
Shekinah
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Space Marine
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Running through SJR again to get the other endings.
*AHEM*
Brayden Butler
FUCK YOU *record scratch*
Connor Sullivan
>>reject his path
Austin Peterson
Here is a rundown on the hoypill
Owen Lee
>Most important hope for SMTV
Apocalypse's combat improvements
>Favorite final boss in the series
Apocalypse's YHVH
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Doomguy
>Megaten game you're currently playing
Just finished up SJ:R
Isaiah Morris
You're right
Justin Morales
Why the fuck is there a megaten thread 24/7 now? Just go to /vg/.
Jack Hill
>Megaten game you're currently playing
None right now. I never finished DeSu, so I was planning on starting that soon, but all these people talking about how great YHVH's fight is makes me feel like I should play 4A instead.
Do I kill my friends?
Zachary Bell
>Most important hope for SMTV
new mechanics, like the smirk from SMTIV
>Favorite final boss in the series
IV:A
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
SH
>Megaten game you're currently playing
SJ Redux
Jason Adams
P5R and Smash Joker resurrected Megaten, and /vg/ is too slow
Brandon Cooper
>Do I kill my friends?
Yes, Dagda was is your life bro
Liam Richardson
>Why the fuck is there a megaten thread 24/7 now? Just go to /vg/.
There has been a shift in in the stars.
All true megatenchads can feel it in their bones what is about to happen and so we awaken from our slumber.
soon
Nathaniel Gonzalez
these are the threads on Yea Forums, stfu
Dominic Cruz
I think they learned their lessons that persona and SMT fans are not the same especially after the pissed off disater that was Tokyo mirage sessions
Brandon Powell
Have you not seen how many people have been rightfully jerking off DeSu's routes?
Andrew Peterson
*the best
Asher Butler
Fuck off
Daniel Garcia
The existence of Final/Apocalypse says otherwise, but perhaps the fallout from a promised crossover will help to curb their expectations.
Brayden Richardson
Apocalypse was based though
John Butler
Imagine what Toki's petite butthole would feel like wrapped tightly around your dick.
Connor Phillips
I don't think they ever made SMT games tailored to Persona fans, #FE being the only real exception, but there is still a crossover in the fanbases between the two. Granted, that doesn't mean they should take too much from one another as they're liked for different reasons and Persona became a spinoff to begin with precisely because it's different. The only reason people think they try to appeal to Persona fans with SMT is them being presumptuous about why IV:A is written the way it is even though IV:A doesn't even feel much like Persona, it just feels more like Persona than other SMT games.
Josiah Martin
Guys, i just found a new projared nude
Christian Mitchell
For a single dungeon, the other 95% was Persona:SMT edition.
Eli Campbell
Only if you go faggot and don't follow dagda, it its also the edgiest smt game
Ryder Nelson
>apocalypse gameplay was based
Ftfy
Samuel Wilson
Should I play IV or just go ahead and play IV:A?
Matthew Wood
*Dagda was based though
Ethan Bailey
IV so things are not too strange
Mason Watson
>edgies smt game
2 25 year olds cannibals wanting to fuck a mentally 7 year old wasnt edgy enought for you?
Tyler Howard
I really disliked how after Dagda refers to the person you revive as being your queen or whatever. I wanted to my boy Navarre at my side, but the character you select being referred to as queen made it obvious it was a waifu choice instead of an underling choice.
That's why I said 95%. Should have had that shit happen when you're doing whatever it was you needed to do with the emotion pots, but I suppose that would have required more writing/resources.
Gabriel Cox
>dagda was based and toki was best buttslave
fify
Julian Morales
Both routes in Apocalypse are shit, only the gameplay is good.
Easton Davis
Yeah it would have been a bit more consistent if they had used a gender neutral title.
Hunter Thompson
Fuck you trannie, both routes were fine (even if bounds was kinda 'persona' it was till good to have one different route in a game)
Owen Hughes
>implying that stripping YHVH through intense fedora tipping wasn't the tightest shit.
Easton Davis
Thanks
Jayden Moore
I'll end it thus
EEEEEEEEEE
Landon Hughes
It wasn't.
Camden Robinson
(You)
Jason Martin
t. YHVH
Mason Morales
All of DeSu's routes are actually pretty good bar Yuzu's
Jason Morris
Liam Taylor
>Most important hope for SMTV
they keep the sci-fi cyberpunk aspects of the series and don't go full magical like Nocturne
>Favorite final boss in the series
If we count superbosses, then Demi-Fiend from DDS
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Demi-Fiend
>Megaten game you're currently playing
was going to play Raidou but when it came in the mail the disc had a big fucking crack all the way down the center. Now I'm playing Nocturne while I wait for a replacement to show up.
Ayden Baker
I played a bit of 3 on the psp years ago but that's it
Which games should I play?
Bentley Morgan
I played persona 3-5 what's the best smt game to play?
Benjamin Reed
See if you don't want to see then go Nocturne or IV/IV A
Chase Long
Get that weak shit out of here.
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
Now these are some tunes a man could jam to.
Oliver Wright
Yea Forums I want to get into smt/persona. What game do i start with
Benjamin Moore
here
Easton Perez
Play IV it's the perfect baby's first SMT.
For persona start with 3.
Ayden Sullivan
>Note: Yuzu’s tits do not use the 3D feature
Kek.
Elijah Cox
Some of you sons of man are alright. Don't go to Tennozu Shelter tomorrow.
Sebastian Richardson
>Most important hope for SMTV
As of right now just for the game to come out by next year at least.
>Favorite final boss in the series
Alice from Desu2
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Abel or Demifiend
>Megaten game you're currently playing
SMTIV:A
James Smith
Why is Walter so great for memes?
Aaron Harris
Robert Williams
Post your favorite demons.
Joshua Jackson
It IS cool though.
Robert Sullivan
Very cool dude untill it's time for the alignment lock atleast.
Hoy is a fun memeable word and minotaur shenanigans made him more memorable.
Lincoln Anderson
LORD OF THE FLIES
PRINCE OF LIES
Lincoln Harris
Anthony Reyes
>tfw 3 consecutive P5 announcements and still nothing, not a single news about SMTV
The waiting is truly painful
Aaron Garcia
I hope E3 reveals something
Chase Robinson
Do what I do, dont give a fuck about it
Isaac Baker
>demons
Austin Ramirez
Ippon-Datara.
Jacob Sanchez
ATLUS never reveal stuff at Western focused events so I suggest you put those hopes away.
Xavier Morales
Great taste, son of man.
Blake Cox
Yo I finally beat Medusa and get to see what the rest of this game is like, wish me luck fags.
Robert Perez
This mostly apply to Strange Journey where Boss battles are actual long battles rather than quick-skirmishes. I think I took a good 15 to 20 minutes fightning Shekinah, way more than I did in any other SMT boss, simply because either I or the boss would die before so. I think this is actually really nice. Most SMT battles are quick, brutal, but in Strange Journey they are long enduring battles of wits. Now that I think about it, the commander skills even compliment that part of the game.
Asher Clark
When it comes to big reveals, ATLUS usually does their own live events, I think the few exceptions were the SMT IV reveal in a Nintedo Direct and the V reveal in the Switch conference.
Lincoln Carter
bruh, you could shred through every boss in a few turns with the right team. Shekinah is the exception, because like he said, she was added in the 3DS remake and isn't in the original
Ryan Rodriguez
Most my battles were a slog, expect the ones I used Doppelganger, but I thought that was the intended way. I thought the whole point of the commander Skills was to reinforce the point that battles are long. I've mananed to beat it well enough, so I'm happy with my performance.
David Lee
Should I play SMTIV or replay Devil Survivor 2 for the 5th time?
Give me a good challenge run for DeSu2
Dominic Murphy
Don't have to cause the game gets significantly easier from here on out, your greatest challenge being reading a map.
Adam Kelly
Congratulations, now you will face the hardest boss in the game: Navigating Tokyo
Nolan Wright
John Davis
Was this a complaint that japanese fans had, or was it easier for them?
Jonathan Morris
Robert Martin
When is this bugman getting death flies again
Dominic Bell
I don't care how fucking late I am. Every fucking time there is a thread that is on /vg/ or a pokemom thread, you fuckers will always say, "Go here" when you don't even care!!! You're just saying that to get attention. If you really hate the thread, why fucking enter it??
Easton Perry
Never ever. Just like Betatron never getting Fires of Sinai back.
Jacob Richardson
Seeing as they rwvamped the map and added quest markers in IV:A, they must've complained enough
Owen Hughes
Space Marine is the best protagonist
Josiah Ross
Whats the anime
Ryder Kelly
I think Betatron got it back in Apoc
Asher Flores
>Going Bonds route ever
Brody Flores
More like best vending machine.
Mason Brown
Would you think a SMT game that takes place in America and is the same timeline as SMT 1 where you have to stop the angels and demons from nuking Japan be a cool idea for a game?
Thomas Ross
>you have to stop the angels and demons from nuking Japan
>and demons
hey fuck you, it's all on that lawfag thorman
Parker Thompson
There'd be a option to help based Thor and blow Japan sky high right?
Isaiah Morgan
Early game megaten is kino comfy, I can't wait for PQ2 and to never finish it like the first Q.
Anthony Rogers
>Leaving the best smirk after Flynn out of the picture
Eli Cooper
>smirking Isabeau
Boner pls.
Jose Foster
Not especially. I'm not opposed to non-Japanese settings for SMT, but just America isn't that interesting to me either. I don't understand why people seem so eager to have MegaTen games take place outside of Japan, you don't see it as much anymore, but there was a time where everybody kept going on about how the next Persona should take place in America as well and it just seems like a change that would add barely anything to the game.
Michael Gomez
Joseph Wilson
YHVH please give me a fucking SMT1 and 2 remake for the love of Pascal.
Ethan Morgan
It will just give you a bad ending
Parker Moore
was toki a guy after all?
Jaxson Myers
What?
Brody Bailey
>you'll never have a cute demon waifu like Lilim
Why even live
Jacob Morgan
Fundraising is the most fun shit
>BEAST OF MACCA
Jacob Cooper
imagine being so beta you don't even try to go full /xg/ in order to connect yourself to the expanse
Caleb Walker
WTF, why does this Dragon Quest game look so weird?
Hudson Long
Sluts aren't cute.
Owen Ramirez
Christian Thomas
A lot of people say Nocturne has the best atmosphere but I honestly felt the underlying darkness a lot more in IV
Kayden Campbell
>They took Death Flies away from Beelzebub
>Demons are starting to get more signature moves
He better have it in V.
Liam Rodriguez
Not sure if it matters but almost every 5* demon and some 4* demons in the gacha game have some exclusive skill to make them stand out, don't know if they'll use that as reference for V.
Jaxson Taylor
I actually really like IV's atmosphere and setting quite a bit.
>YHVH attempts to nuke Tokyo to kill the people he deems unworthy
>Masakado becomes a giant dome of rock to guard the city from being ravaged
>Your home country Mikado is built above the back of Masakado as Tokyo rests within the chaotic city
This is only the tip of the iceberg, but man I loved this game. I can only imagine what it'd have looked like in full 3D.
Adrian Adams
Discovering Tokyo for the first time has to be one of the most unforgettable things that has ever happened in gaming. Until then I thought it was just going to be a Medieval SMT game, but the ominous atmosphere of Tokyo is just amazing
Hunter Roberts
Ah wow, thanks for the information. I don't play Dx2 so I wasn't aware, but I'm glad even more demons have special skills to set them apart from one another. Well at least the important higher leveled demons.
Landon Evans
Blake Jones
What's with all the threads lately guys? I can't keep up.
Nicholas Thompson
We're trying to summon SMTV
Wyatt Stewart
Someone redpill me on Soul Hackers
Ryan Reyes
I don't know, but it's at such good timing for me since I've started playing SMT 4 and I bought Redux to play after
>accidentally got neutral when i was aiming for chaos
hell yea fuckers
Thomas Powell
It would be better if the alignment split happened earlier in these games, so each route felt unique from the other. Like you said, specific dungeons or bosses, different gear, access to certain locations, it would be great. They'd have to do more work though which I doubt they want to do.
Jackson Smith
It's the most aesthetic megaten
youtu.be
Adam Mitchell
i really dont know but i couldnt be happier
Eli Wilson
Some how I got the bad ending where I just trigger the blackhole how do I avoid that in the future?
Lincoln Turner
dont listen to the wite pepo
Carter Taylor
It's the last of the classic style games, so it's not only got the most added to it of those types, but having a 3DS remake also means it had a ton of quality of life improvements too.
It's also insanely fast, in movement and battle and pacing. It's like a 30 hour game, so less than half the time you'd spend in most other Megaten games.
Jose Martin
That's the good ending brother.
Logan Ramirez
Why avoid it?
Andrew Nelson
>TAINTED SOUL. REPENT AND DIE.
I need that as an image alone
Levi Morgan
SMT GAME IN EGYPT WHEN? Or at least it used heavy Egyptian influence since Egypt itself is kind of boring with all the sand everywhere.
Carter Sanchez
Tell The White to fuck off.
Hunter Fisher
why not though
Hudson Taylor
third one is /biz/
Anthony Young
It's only natural that people would want a change in setting since most of the titles take place in Tokyo. I wouldn't mind places like the Expanse getting focus though, or somewhere else in Asia like Hokkaido, Osaka, Kyoto, or elsewhere.
Ryan Harris
There you go
Aaron Powell
I wouldn't be opposed to that either, but if they were to do it I'd want them to do it for a reason and not just for the sake of it. I wouldn't mind if they made a game set in America because the game was based around urban myths and cryptids or something like that, but I wouldn't want them to do it just because.
Aaron Ross
Dagda was based, the rest was crap Anarchy is king. Shouldn't have even been an option to side with the friends I wish the whole game was focused on the anarchy side, if you were intended to like the bonds route they probably shouldn't have too dumb too live Nozomi and take your press turns Gaston in there.
Benjamin Torres
>Most important hope for SMTV
The usual shitposting memey demons with a kino story that ends with you punching god or angry anti god. And if they keep up with apoc trends keep the combat and anarchy route. For fucks sake drop the bonds route, nothing wrong with persona stuff but we have persona for that not SMT mainline persona did it infinitely better then the bonds route anyway.
>Favorite final boss in the series
Bhraman or Metatron from overclocked
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Bunny for memes, Doomguy for kino
>Megaten game you're currently playing
I've played almost all of them but I'm currently watching my little brother play DDS2 for the first time, he was a persona baby but I got him to play Raidou, Nocturne, and now we're working on DDS
Brandon Gray
You're right. I'm sure they'd properly weave the setting into the story since it's not just there as a new aspect. If I recall correctly, they mentioned using America in SJ during the conception phase.
Landon Brooks
Is he a bitch? Yes
But god damn his design is 20/10 and so are all of his fights.
Jackson Evans
Parker Torres
I wonder if Kaneko is pitching ideas for the plot in V?
Thomas Garcia
>Lucifer dresses up a a high school girl to get close to the samurai.
>Shekinah uses Demeter as a proxy to get Doomguy to collect egg fragments.
waifufags beware
Bentley Cox
Hooooly shit just got to the route change in SMT IVA and played the beginning of both of them.
For Bonds:
Holy shit Danu is straight up savage. She just fucking up and makes a new son. Felt way worse for Dagda than the massacre route. Asahi just straight up being revived like that doesn't mesh with me at all. It felt so anti climactic.
For Massacre:
Killing all your friends one by one was painful. Probably one of the best moments in SMT history. My only problem is there isn't a real reason for following Dagda. I feel like they should've added something like "Hey Kid, I can revive your girlfriend and your dad for you if you help me out. There's no way you'll see them otherwise."
Zachary Lewis
Lucifer is the high school girl goof
Nolan Hernandez
I mean a majority of these demons aren't even native to Japan culture, what the fuck would a wendigo being doing Tokyo or Hell biker?
Matthew Morgan
oh my god he looks even more like a woman now
Gabriel Cruz
Anyone got a picture of Flynn.exe?
I laughed so hard when he popped up.
David Phillips
Did he manage to surpass Demifiend/Aleph as the strongest protagonist after New Neutral ending?
Grayson Butler
I don't think that's that relevant to the setting though because they're going to have Demons from myths and religions from all over the world no matter where the game takes place.
Parker Robinson
>want to kill my friends
>but want to kill dagda too
just give me divine powers ending atlus
Leo Jenkins
>My only problem is there isn't a real reason for following Dagda
The dude revived you, and gives free revives.
After Asahi died there was no reason to go friends anyways since your only reasons to live are for yourself or Dagda at this point.
Josiah Myers
Nanashi is still the strongest.
Ryan Cooper
I guess. It's still a weak motivation considering all that's happen to you. Like shit just seeing your friends grow and you just outright lmao fuck you guys seems off-putting.
There's more reason going with your friends because Asahi died for you and to outright betray everyone is way out of line.
Luis Perez
Not compared to aleph, dude killed YHVH without any help or interference from others nanashi at least needed to strip his power and use dagda and satan/flynn and his buds.
Joseph Reyes
>Aleph's party doesn't count
???
Angel Martin
>couldn't even take on YHVH without dimenishing his form despite having another messiah, a party of demons, and about dozen humans or Satan with him
Aleph or MTII protagonist are still tbe strongest.
Ian Davis
But my point is that why are these demons only showing up in one spot such as Tokyo when huge chunk of them don't belong there. Demons in the series are created by the thought of man. Shouldn't certain demons only appear in certain places? Strange Journey made it make more sense since the demons are actually appearing because of human actions on nature and the Schwarzwelt is their way out. I personally would like to see a world traveling SMT game since you can explore the world and actually get demons in certain spots. Fusion can still be a thing.
Caleb Stewart
Nanashi fought infinite heads, while Aleph only fought one
Checkmate boomers
Joseph Edwards
Aleph had Hiroko and some demons with him, Nanashi had his demons, his party or Satan, and Flynn and even then they couldn't defeat him in his natual state.
Cameron Peterson
>"some demons"
You mean Lucifer AND Satan with some endgame demons like Shiva?
Also this
Cooper Hughes
>Nocturne
>intellectually stimulating
I loved Nocturne, but none of the SMT's are "intellectually stimulating" and I'd consider anyone who does a neckbeard.
Nocturne is great for it's atmosphere.
Connor Price
If you go neutral aleph doesn't have either and he still does it and he doesn't weaken him he fights him head on and wins. Nanashi either needs him his friends, and all of the SMT 4 gang to denounce YHVH and weaken him to fight him. Or satan/puppet flynnand dagda's powers, even then he still needs to weaken him.
Elijah Reed
It's really pointless to argue over power levels between protagonists when concepts like the multiverse exist, and there being thousands of possibilities where the protagonists fail as well being possible. The Messiah's in The Diamond Realm DLC shows you as much.
Hunter Ross
>If you go neutral aleph doesn't have either
and you can go solo as nanashi while passing turns as satan/flynn
your argument is retarded
Aaron Allen
After Apocalypse, should I play record breaker or Redux?
For DS2: I only got the communist and daichi ending
For SJ: I only got up to the dungeon that starts with a C.
Matthew Ross
How will V top IV:A's final boss?
Nicholas Murphy
I hope they don't get too worked up over this. We don't have to have epic YHVH fight in every game.
Evan Brown
Not him, but the concept behind Reasons being based on Nietzsche philosophy and the fact that is deconstructs the usual alignment formula was pretty interesting. To this day I appreciate it a lot, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily deep. It is pretty thought provoking though if you research it. Not sure why you brought up the term neck beard though.
Tyler Gomez
He can't compete with MTII guy, aleph you can argue over but the MTII guy is unparalleled in strength.
Leo Myers
who is the chaddest protagonist and why is it this good looking motherfucker?
Jaxon Clark
and you're still ignoring the fact Nanashi had to strip YHVH of his power before killing him where as Aleph or the MTII guy didn't.
Zachary Walker
We won't be seeing YHVH again for a long ass time. Apocalypse was his first return since SMT II back in what, 1999? That's a long ass time. I'm pretty sure V's final boss will be entertaining regardless though. Just make it difficult and give it a booming ass soundtrack, and that's already two bases covered.
Julian Lewis
It doesn't make them any deeper and they still mirrored your usual alignments. Reasons were shit and shouldn't be praised.
Leo Long
Eli Watson
Doesn't have to be YHVH, I'm open to new ideas.
Lincoln Harris
>1999
SMT II was 1994super famicon era
Christopher Taylor
What's the deal with those breast pockets
Christian Robinson
MT isn't even set in the same multiverse
stripping someone of their power is power by itself, retard
and Nanashi's YHVH was clearly different from the one Aleph fought
Austin Scott
I wonder who the final boss of V will be
Jose Davis
So your basically just saying it's retarded to argue over power levels anyways, because each YHVH is different and MT is seperate from SMT, what's the point of arguing whether or not Nanashi or Aelph or fuck the vending machine is the strongest to begin with then?
Alexander Ramirez
whoever it is I hope Kodaka the madman does justice with the music
Samuel Mitchell
1999? that shit came out on the super famicom hee hommie. I love smt 2 but that game would look like crap if it came out in 1999.
Jacob Martinez
Shekinah is basically the female avatar of YHVH..
Blake Edwards
Reasons were pretty interesting even though they were essentially rehashed alignments. All of the endings were pretty bad in the grand scheme of things though since they're truthfully just you playing into YHVH's hands, with the exception of TDE & Freedom. Then again endings in this series are never particularly good since Atlus makes Law/Chaos look like borderline bad endings. The only exception has been DeSu 1 & SJR.
Oliver Garcia
The back of the box for Apocalypse has bugged me ever since I got it.
>Walk the line between peace or anarchy!
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE
Oliver Scott
They're not your friends.
Xavier Cooper
How can I get synchronicity prologue?
With english subs?
Gabriel Gutierrez
I started with Persona 5 and I'm enjoying mainline. It gave me a good taste for the battle system without dunking me in the deep end.
Brody Martin
BEHOLD MY SHITPOSTS
Justin Russell
Who was praising them?
Oliver Wilson
SMT I and II really didn't have that terrible of law/chaos endings. In fact, SMT II goes out of its way to show how shitty the neutral end of I was.
Jason Scott
>daily smash bros, RE and DMC threads are allowed
>SMT isn't
Nolan Sanchez
SMT II's world was actually fairly chill considering how fucked the Earth was by the end of I, at least until Law fags decided to fuck it all up.
Jayden Hughes
Yea Forums belongs to the Persona fans
Jackson Sanchez
Lincoln Roberts
SMT II's law ending where Satan decide to judge YHVH was fucking kino
Kayden Foster
Nozomi was a bitch, tensions were really high there was no reason to tell them it was you. She should've said she killed the hunter who broke the seal. I get that they're going to start suspecting each other of being the traitor but telling them that a couple of kids did it was really fucking dumb. Thank god Fujiwara and Skins were level-headed enough to get the crowd to not lynch you first chance they get.
Lincoln Morgan
>Return of Reasons
>Mem Aleph
>Strange Journey guy
>SMT 4
Speaking of which does SMT 4 get better anytime soon, I'm finding it a bit of a slog to get through compared to alot of the other ones i've played
Bentley Hall
Yes, Fujiwara made sure that the only consequence of the tribunal was several areas facing simultaneous attack on account of the lack of defenses, with high death tolls on an already battered organization. The best part is Nozomi never gets called out for her retardation, her hypocrisy, or the fact that she doesn't want to fully cleanse Tokyo of demons because that would interfere with her little racket where she gets to be queen of Fairy Forest. Persona 4 Apocalypse is a hell of a game.
Jaxon Campbell
The funny thing is I kinda agree with her, like Nanashi and Asahi where dumb as fuck for trusting odin and going to break the seal and they did cause everything to happen. But jesus christ she literally couldn't have picked a worse time to do it, then fucking trying to act all snarky at the association
>y-you guys are just ganging up on kids
like she had no possible clue this would happen, made me just wish she was eaten alive by sesha instead of asahi.
Hudson Hughes
Well yeah they were dumb as fuck for actually believing Odin, but Dagda would have forced Nanashi to do it anyway (or found a new godslayer if Nanashi decided to just stay dead).
Nathan Reyes
I'd unironically play a Sonic themed SMT game
Cooper Harris
Let me rephrase that, Asahi was dumb as fuck, fair enough Dagda would've made Nanashi either way. But it's almost too stupid to fucking live levels when Asahi thought nothing could go wrong by trusting this fucking eldritch demon hiding in the wall telling her what she is doing will "help". Fuck I hate all of the characters in this game, Dagda was right kill your friends kido.
Hunter Martinez
>Odin possibly has a major role in SMT V
>He has an entire overarching dungeon based on Valhalla
>It has callbacks to SMT II
It would be awesome.
Thomas Fisher
Did you ever doubt?
Ethan Evans
What do you want to see out of Doi's demon designs in SMTV?
Julian Anderson
Jordan Garcia
I want SMTV to go like, Odin vs Zeus vs Shiva/krishna vs whatever.
Just a bunch of top gods duking it out to be top man. Slip away from the Lucifer vs YHWH stuff for a moment, and focus on other gods.
Grayson Perry
I want to see a new Lucifer design from him.
Joshua Davis
>the changes to Toki's resolution have caused her Persona to awaken to new powers!
Hudson Lee
More freaky alien shit like Lucifer in 4 and apocalypse as well as Flynn.exe
I actually love Doi's designs. They're modernized and uncanny enough that if I saw this fucking Lucifer in real life I'd shit my pants.
Jacob Adams
The fact that there isn't a Divine Powers route in IV:Final is honestly the greatest crime in the entire series.
Thomas Hughes
That actually sounds interesting. Gods from multiple cultures and mythology squaring off against one another to establish a new form of religion on the world.
Jayden Thomas
>Jimenez loses his psycho face in New Chaos ending
That was pretty neat, for a Chaos route anyway
Aiden Ross
Wouldn't it just be a mix between the white and anarchy route? Maybe a hint of the law ending in IV. I cant see a way they can spin it to be unique.
Dylan Rodriguez
It would have essentially been the Anarchy Ending, but Krishna, Odin, and Maitreya would have replaced YHVH instead of Nanashi. Truthfully Odin doesn't in the group since the other two deities are of Hindu origin.
Carter Reyes
Jeremiah White
I mean the divine powers are just people sick of the law and chaos shit. It's basically the majority of non abhramaic gods under one banner.
Jason Scott
Neutralchad always
Lucas Perez
Just finished SMT If...
AMA
Kevin Phillips
The white ending will always be shit, they already stated that it destroys only the IV uinverse.
Jack Smith
How was it overall? How comparable is it to Persona and SMT?
Justin Williams
I mean they would've killed you too so your soul would also be saved.
Jayden Fisher
Persona fucking counts. The fucking idea is add on from if...
Aaron Wood
>Neutral """chad"""
>has zero alignment heroes until SMT IV, where it gets a fucking monkey
>a monkey that doesn't do a damn thing and would rather just cry in bed
Ethan Garcia
Post the SMT games you've played and rate them in order from best to worst:
1. SJ
2. SMT4
3. Nocturne
4. DDS1/2
5. Raidou 2
6. SMT 2
7. Soul Hackers
8. Devil Survivor 2
9. SMT4:A
10. Devil Survivor
11. Raidou 1
12. SMT 1
13. If...
Logan Russell
>im-fucking-plying
Charles Cox
>until SMT IV
Excuse me?
Kayden Diaz
>Has zero alignment heroes until SMT IV
>I don't play the games confirmed
Here's your (You) though
Gavin Foster
It's just like SMT1/2 gameplay wise, music wise, etc. But it lacks the overarching apocalyptic adventure type of story/theme that those games have. And without that, to be honest, it's a bit weak. It's ok though if you really liked 1 and 2, but hard to recommend it on its own merits. I guess it's a little like Persona in that it's set in a school but other than that, I don't see similarities.
David Johnson
>disobeying the Lord and His servants
Neutralfags and Chaosfags both get the divine lightning
David Harris
>is absent for the vast majority of the game unlike a regular alignment hero
>doesn't consistently provide input that may be subtly shifting over the course of the game, unlike a regular alignment hero
>just comes back for a little bit as a non-human then goes away
Arthur was more of a Neutral hero than Gore.
Adrian Lee
>implying that being a lawcuck is any better
Oliver Price
I went law because I wouldn't like to live in a post apocalyptic shithole filled with demons and literal human shaped biological weapons from above the ceiling ready to turn into even more demons at any moment not a fan of this series though so I don't understand the meme alignment wars
Ethan Morris
The joke is that every SMT IV end is shit, embrace oblivion.
Aaron Davis
Persona count?
1.SMT4A
2. Devil Survivor
3. SMT4
4. Devil Survivor 2
5. Strange Journey
6. Nocturne
POWER GAP
7.Soul Hackers
Nathan Phillips
>lawcucks and Chaoscringe need alignment reps
lol just like them to not handle things themselves and let angels and demons do it for them.
Gabriel Ward
Kayden Torres
Everyone has alignment reps you mouthbreathing canine.
Elijah Nguyen
You can shit on the peace route all you want, but this moment was Kino.
Elijah Flores
There is no alignment rep for neutral in I and II.
Jose Ortiz
>1
Hero himself is the Neutral rep honestly.
>2
Fair enough.
Lucas Ortiz
The player can't be the rep
Hudson Perry
NINE & IMAGINE literally exist to dab on Hero for choosing Neutral.
Chase Hughes
I CANT FIND A LILIM FOR ANTHONYS QUEST
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Austin Cooper
Matthew Bennett
Why didn't you like Soul Hackers?
Persona would confuse things too much
Luis Cox
I have honestly no idea. I got to the 1v1 against the dude and you had a choice of bringing nemissa. I kept losing and got sick of grinding and the story wasn't hooking me at that point. The other games I've stopped playing because of external reasons. Only soul hackers I've stopped because of choice.
Ian Sanchez
It has a unique style to it. I guess it's not for everyone.
Hunter Allen
Where exactly did you drop the game at? Around the time you reach the 3rd dungeon you should be adjusted to the mechanics. Keeping Nemissa alive isn't too hard, and you can damn near beat most fights with her and the MC alone.
Mason Sanders
>Most important hope for SMTV
I want it to have a good alignment system where it is not hard as fuck to determine what ending you are getting, and I want the plot to be solid as fuck
>Favorite final boss in the series
Babel, the King's Gate
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
Flynn
>Megaten game you're currently playing
I'm replaying Apocalypse with my gf. SJ Redux after that.
Brandon Hill
>SMT IV
>SMT IV Apocalypse
Why couldn't they just say SMT V
Chase Perez
Logan Adams
>he doesn't understand that the white's plot is shit
Sorry user, you need to take control of the Axiom for the white's plan to have any sense, otherwise it only nukes ONE timeline.
Bentley Hernandez
Xavier Gutierrez
the 1v1 against the old dude. I honestly forgot the plot already.
Alexander Hernandez
Asahi's so fucking cute and adorable.
why is there barely any SMT porn?
Easton Ward
Because it didn't blow up until just recently
Kevin Foster
>For it to shake things up a bit in terms of plot, go in new directions (Having it be a teenage boy in Tokyo means it isn't looking good on this front). Also for it to have 4As battle system.
>YHVH
>Doomguy
>Strange Journey Redux
Juan Wright
People worrying about the MC being a teenager is kind of strange. Demifiend started the game off as a basic teenager before the Conception occurred and nobody had an issue. Megami Tensei starts off with a highschooler as the MC. I don't see the issue really. It's not like we're going to school.
John Sullivan
Joseph Gomez
I see a lot of mentions of Apocalypse, Devil Survivor 1, and Strange Journey Redux here.
Isaiah Gonzalez
It would be cool if the MC was an adult, like in SJ. I bet a lot of people rate SJ so highly is because it has a more mature aesthetic. The playerbase has aged with the series and the younger generation has Persona.
Nathaniel Reyes
I am an Adult.
I would like to play as an Adult.
Simple.
Andrew Gray
Sorry. Why is there no Asahi porn?
Tyler Moore
That's completely fine. Again though, I don't see how the MC being a high schooler is inherently worrying in V's case in particular like some people make it out to be. The only protagonist we've had in the mainline that has actually been an adult was Doomguy. Flynn actually counts as well since he's canonically 18.
David Morgan
Also, having an adult cast results in the game feeling a bit more mature, with the characters acting less like... well, stupid teenagers.
Joseph Parker
That's pretty understandable. Going from IV to Apocalypse was pretty jarring.
Dominic Bennett
>"Despite only making up 13% of the population.."
Jose Mitchell
I don't agree with that, characters can act in a way where they don't come off as immature whether they're teenagers or not and characters can come off as acting like teenagers even if they're adults. Chiaki acts weird in Nocturne, but she doesn't act like a teenager, the whole cast of DDS are adults, or at least based on adults, but they still act in a melodramatic overly emotional way that people act like only teenagers can act like. The characters in SJ aren't engaging because of their age, their age is just a consequence of the fact that it would be dumb for teenagers to be enlisted by the UN, but their personalities could be stuck onto a teenager pretty easily and it would be completely believable, though they'd obviously be in a different role rather than being adults with important jobs. The character's age doesn't really matter much and is mostly superficial, what's important is just that the character is good, if they do that much it doesn't matter if they're a high schooler.
Asher Wood
Good summary. That only applies if a character arc manages to have a good basis and cleanly tied up ending to it though, which isn't the case most of the time. Let alone this doesn't even apply to the MC's since you project your views into them via the dialogue options that the game presents.
Sebastian James
Isn't that always how bosses have been though as of about Nocturne? Your team either fails horribly and you establish a new one that either tears through the boss, or puts up a even fight until you beat said boss. I think there is more strategy involved though.
Dominic Kelly
I've been stuck for three days and counting against the second Ouroboros fight in SJR, fuck me
Josiah Thomas
Literally how?
>Go around and grind Macca/Recruit demons for a bit
>Fuse demons that resist or are immune to Electric and also have relatively powerful fire attacks like Agilao so you can spam Co-Op attacks
>Heal if you get low
That's literally it. Fusing Asura after beating Delphinius is highly recommended. He comes with Black Flame, which is a pretty powerful fire attack and it'll definitely help on Ouro's boss.
Charles Morgan
New to SMT and playing 4. On a scale of Etrian Odyssey to Final Fantasy, how useful are status ailments?
Charles Price
>Get out of Monochrome Forest
>Wake up next to Isabeau
Did I just get the neutral route without a tutorial on first try?
Joseph Ward
They're useful, but I wouldn't say they're Etrian Odyssey tiers of useful. You get some really good status infliction skills in IV:A though.
Luis Rogers
Tyler Johnson
Unfortunately Final Fantasy level usefulness. They're not worth using most of the time at all save some special cases.
Tyler Anderson
I do have Asura, but he's chaos while i happened to become law and made most of my demons that way. I have a couple of demons with elec resistance too but that usually just means they get almost insta-killed by the physical and light attacks. Guess I've just been unlucky and possibly dumb with my demon choices, I'll have to grind my way through
Carter Bailey
I just spammed fire attacks and acid breath and got it on my second try.
TBF, I was level 48 and got lucky, and literally my entire stock but 2 demons were dead.
There was a point where the MC had bomb and only just pulled though because the next attack missed.
Jason Wilson
> grinning emoji instead of the one that’s literally smirking
One job
Oliver Reed
smtv cancelled, atlus to focus on persona bowling, persona pinball, persona skate and an untitled persona themed shmup game
Evan Roberts
should't you quit your hobby since you feel to old for it grandpa?
Nathaniel Walker
Fuse new demons with thunder res and fire skills, wear thunder resistant equipmen, and get some ailment recovery items (and skills if possible). Buff and debuff but not beyond +3/-3. That's what I did after thinking it was a bullshit fight and I won in my second attempt.
Jack Smith
>mfw team-wide Tetrakarn/Makarakarn reflect on a Boss
Jacob Russell
He killed a YHVH avatar that was summoned into the remnants of their post-apocalyptic world that had their faith diverted towards a false YHVH. Fuck all for belief to give him power.
Nanashi fought YHVH in his own universe and won.
Henry Campbell
Yo what's with the route choices?
Nanashi no reason to pick massacre route and help Dagda after he fucked him up with the seal.
However why is the bonds path so fucking dumb?
>Replace Dagda with a new Dagda
>Stephen just outright says kill yhvh and you outright do it. No reason or whatever, just go kill yhvh.
Sebastian Davis
I want to HUG the monkey!
Aaron Gonzalez
demon cooties
Henry Murphy
They're great for hordes and regular demons, also farming cash out of demons.
There are mid-bosses you can hit with ailments but I haven't bothered with main bosses.
Jacob Smith
virgin vs chad
Ethan Richardson
this is where you put plot armor to prevent getting oneshot
Isaiah Gonzalez
>>Stephen just outright says kill yhvh and you outright do it. No reason or whatever, just go kill yhvh.
Literally the entire game is building to killing YHVH, on both routes. He's the reason why all the other gods are pissed off and doing their shit.
Elijah Bell
That shit doesn't work on bosses far into the game so enjoy it while you can. Mem Aleph especially curbs that shit with Almighty spam.
Kevin Taylor
It was always annoying how people claim YHVH had no reason to be fought in the ending, when the entire plot focuses on the Divine Powers and their plan for salvation.
Isaiah Johnson
Well i'm playing SMTIV and I just killed all The White with it + Fog Breath and Luster Candy
Anthony Smith
I really fucking hate the source system in SJ.
I keep stockpiling them and only rarely using them because the are so fucking hard to regain.
I just want the system from 4A.
Fused demons suck without sources because barely anything transfers.
Also, doomguy is level 50 and fornax, and I'm still using anahita because I can't find a better healer to replace her so far. Most of my goto demons are a full 10 levels behind me aside from a grendel.
Benjamin Garcia
ayy lmao
Leo Garcia
Oh IV? Never mind then. I never used it on Lucifer/Merkabah, but I'm pretty sure they carry Almighty.
Ryder Flores
Okay cool.
Hey kid wanna kill God now? Yeah go right ahead.
There was literally no buildup in the bonds route
Jaxson Jones
Is there any SMT game where the Law ending was the definite best ending? Chaos was best in Devil Survivor and in SMT2. Law only had one good ending in devil survivor 1.
Nathan Reyes
Wait, what game is this from?
Matthew Cruz
>No build up in Bonds
Except you know, the Divine Powers telling you about YHVH and their plan for Salvation more and more as the game goes on.
Adrian Johnson
>get 3ds emulator (citra)
>get .cia file, graciously donated by an user
>have to convert it to a .3ds
>okay then, a bit of a hassle but alright
>google and find out how to do it
>try and pop it into citra
>have to decrypt it
>extra pain in the ass but okay then
>download decrypter
>execute
>doesnt work
>try again
>doesnt work
>try even more times
>doesnt work
>spent over 30 minutes just to play a bloody vidya gaem searching forums and nothing
I just wanted to play SMTIV dangit.
Brayden Bailey
Apparently Law+ in strange journey redux is very good.
Leo Edwards
>smt thread
>posts persona character
OH NO NO NO NO
JACK FROST BROS, WHAT HAPPENED!?
John Long
Hoy, what are you saying
Elijah Thomas
YO LIL*RECORD SCRATCH*
Adam Stewart
It still hasn't sunk in for me that 3ds emulation is a thing
I wonder what its like to emulate smtiv on a vertical desktop screen
Xavier Williams
Law always gets the short end of the stick in these games. Off the top of my head
>SMT II Law
You actually end up killing YHVH in that ending as well, and the archangels are your bros. It's pretty good.
>SMT SJR
The new Neutral Law ending is a good one for humanity, but they're still relatively brainwashed to a degree because of Pillar Zelenin.
>SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked
Amane's route is pretty great, but even then it pales in comparison to the Chaos ending which she herself joins you in to defeat Metatron.
Atlus has a huge Neutral and Chaos bias.
Isaac Gonzalez
ziperto.com
I played it on citra and used this.
Andrew Stewart
>Atlus has a huge Neutral and Chaos bias.
Actually, I think it's more that because Japan is a more collectivist society, with collectivist values being pushed, under those values, Law looks a bit better and chaos a bit worse, making them more balanced there.
America with its values of freedom, leans way more chaos, making the routes seem unbalanced to the western world.
William Moore
wrong
Wyatt Young
>blocked within my country
>VPN doesnt have enough data to download
>try and just bullshit it by going in with VPN first to the site and then downloading via real internet
>fail
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
Josiah Roberts
What about Europe?
Leo Carter
If Law was represented by Shinto gods then you'd be right, but the heavy usage of Judeo-Christian figures is due to MegaTen being loose commentary on religious cultural imperialism.
Jack Moore
Based Samurai
Jayden Russell
Try looking up decrypted roms on google or something like that
Aaron Mitchell
Depends on the country.
Gabriel Cruz
I love the Demonica Girls!
Wyatt Morales
Aside from zelanin, do we know their nationalities?
David Taylor
Yes good job.
Hinestly I think most people will get Neutral if they answer the dialogue options honestly.
Jackson Smith
>religious cultural imperialism
That's a big dilemma in these games.
From a god's perspective what's the bigger priority, upholding the tenets of their alignment or making sure their cultural influence exists?
Hudson Sullivan
just started playing smt iv and god isabeu is fucking hot
Samuel Brown
I like that they gave all the crew members portraits.
Austin Parker
>Wanting to fuck a monkey
Better than Apocalypse dog fuckers though, that's for sure.
Jayden Diaz
>Honestly I think most people will get Neutral if they answer the dialogue options honestly.
It also requires doing certain sub-quests, and for the answering questions part, the overall threshold for being neutral is revoltingly thin.
John Kelly
Isabeau is my wife.
Christian Gonzalez
>US
Williams
>German
Zoe
>Japanese
Maebe
>Russia
Zelenin
>China
Chen
Jacob Lewis
Nice.
Imagine if they all had their respective accents on the dub they refused to make.