Why was he so stupid?

Why was he so stupid?

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I'm not your mary, james

Bad script.
Also, they tried to channel Lynch, but Team Silent is completely out of their depth trying shit like that.

based zoomer

Because he was completely FUCKED in the head, user. He was far gone the funny rabbit hole.

retard

He was a grieving and psychologically unstable widower who followed a vague letter to a dangerous place on the off-chance that his dead wife might be there.

Because there was a post here It's gone now.

He was in shock and living with permanent disassociation from strangling his own wife to death.

I'm convinced with these compelling counter arguments.
Anyways, like I said:
Bad script, tried to emulate a director WELL beyond their expertise.

>"This was very obvious and not much of a twist."

I don't give a shit about giving any arguments to litteral retards user

It's pretty obvious even if you don't know, especially after the scene after the abstract daddy fight

>There is none since the writing is so poor.
compared to other mediums, yes. in video games it's among the best.

the game takes place in a nightmare that can physically suck people in, you never see a non-otherworld version of Silent Hill

I meant James killing his wife not the rape thing.

the first part didnt even take place in silent hill though

bc thats how the otherworld works faggot. its not like real like where ur walking around the mall its supposed to be supernaturalish. like damn you start picking apart the games you might as well say banjo kazooie is unrealistic cause a bear and a bird dont live together and are friends with moles and fight witches.

Incomprehensible pseudo intellectual trash. Notice how all of you incels can't explain why the ugly bitch with the pink leopard skirt exist and you can play as her if it's all apart of james' mind

More importantly, what the fuck happened to your greentext?

That's what I meant. Yes, James killing his wife wasn't much of a twist because the foreshadowing was handled with all the grace of sledgehammer to the skull.

>he can fight very well because he was in the military
>turns he actually wasn't

thanks Tomm

Yeah I know, but Angela straight up says "you wanted her out of the way didn't you ?" after you kill Abstract Daddy

>letter

>Incomprehensible
based retard

White male

>Incomprehensible
brainlet

Silent Hill literally manifests shit into reality. It's why the monsters can hurt you. It's why the town can change on a whim. How much of a brainlet can you be not to understand something so simple?

If you want to emulate a master film director, you should probably hire someone that can write. They didn't do this with SH, and the result was a cheap replica. You're allowed to be ignorant, but I won't suffer your opinion.

doesn't matter

>Lynch
>Master film director

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Explain why the writing is bad instead of saying baseless accusations

This

>ugly bitch with the pink leopard skirt
um...

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How so? You don't get much foreshadowing about it until the very end. Unless you just took a wild guess and felt smart for it.

>shit literally just manifests out of thin air

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>Eddy saying you're just like me
>Angela syaing "you wanted her outy of the way"

I mean, I guess it's obvious for me because i played it like 7 times

lol this made me laugh

>Lynch
>master film director

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He's delusional and on denial, when he sees something fucked up like Eddie all crazy tries to look and act surprised like a child but at the same time to be the responsible wise adult, poor James

Those are both practically end game though. I think Lara maybe says you hated Mary or something really early on but other than that they keep it pretty under wraps until the point of the game where you're supposed to know the twist, I wouldn't call that bad foreshadowing.

Confirmed for not actually understanding the B-movie tier lore of the first game. Based retard.

Sure. For starters, the goal was to emulate Lynch in SH2. It's not surprising since SH1 was basically a visual ripoff of Jacobs Ladder. From the first game on, they had putted themselves as "people with no originality."
The dialogue in SH2 tries so hard to reach for that Lynch and Lovecraft's otherness, but it never lands in a way that comes off as anything other than extremely poorly delivered. Characters are often repeating obvious things, and stating the same questions over and over.
There are even some hilarious translations from the script that come off as very weird in English, and I can't tell if they're errors due to quality control or translation issues. Right from when you meet the chick on the boardwalk the script is totally fucked. The amount of ellipses used is like a teenager wrote it and tried to emulate human speech patterns, but did it with the most braindead material possible.

It makes me a little sad whenever I introduce the game to new people and they just say, "This is Shutter Island isn't it?"

Much better then Team Silent.

Here's a better question; when Heather and Douglas go to the motel, how do they check in?

Actually, I guess if we are going to go down this route we may as well; the implication from Silent Hill 2 and 4 (which would ostensibly translate to 1 and 3, but more on that later) is that there are essentially five different layers of Silent Hill/reality. The first layer is average reality, with every other subsequent layer the ones we usually play in (Fog, Night, Nightmare, Nowhere).

What's important, more than anything, is that characters can seemingly switch between these layers fairly easily; our own protagonists often switch anywhere from layers two through five on a dime, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for a random person to switch in and out from the first layer (reality) and the second layer (Fog). What this means is that, even while all this shit is happening around us, there's still regular life going on just one layer over; while we're out being chased by zombie dogs done the streets of Silent Hill, the town itself is actually a pretty normal place (minus the cult) where people just go about their lives. So in the case of SH3, we can assume then that Heather, Douglas, and Claudia transferred from the Reality Layer to the Fog Layer without even realizing it--also explains why calling for cops or an ambulance wouldn't matter, chances are the phones wouldn't connect and even if they did, would they even find the body of someone that was killed in another layer?

However, this all kind of falls apart with the first game, where Cybil is there because the town of Brahams supposedly "lost contact" with Silent Hill, which would suggest that everything happening over there is actually happening, even if later games make Silent Hill seem like it's a normal town where things aren't fucked up

A very generic ghost story twist.

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He's not
He's suicidal and going nuts
It's very obvious from the game, are you retarded op?

>A ton of faggors.
Nice.

You got a source for any of this? Because from what I remember the first Silent Hill took inspiration from a lot of horror movies, to the point that the streets in Silent Hill are named after authors. And the first time SH even referenced Jacob's Ladder was in 2 with the hospital otherworld transition scene.

I don't know what these pictures mean, one of them is Max Payne

It was extremely emotionally heavy. I could relate to it on a level and the game built up to it excellentlu. The letter reading at the end made me cry.

born 98, played last year

>putted
based foreign retard trying hard to sound smart and failing

Through the Ritual of the Holy
Assumption, he built a world.
It exists in a space separate from
the world of our Lord.
More accurately, it is within, yet
without the Lord's world.

Unlike the world of our Lord,
it is a world in extreme flux.
Unexpected doors or walls,
moving floors, odd creatures,
a world only he can control...
Anyone swallowed up by that world
will live there for eternity, undying.
They will haunt that realm as a spirit.
How can our Lord forgive such an
abomination...?

That is retarded.

Smart people don't go to Silent Hill.

This. I thought SH2 was the one that got inspired by Jacob's Ladder (hence the entire narrative and visuals), not SH1.

You should watch Jacob's Ladder you uncultured swine. When you do, it will be obvious that is the reference material for the series visually.
As for the "otherness" that Silent Hill 2 goes for in emulating Lynch/Lovecraft? This would literally be the only excuse why the writing is so wooden and the delivery is so stiff. If that WASN'T the goal, it only makes the writing worse. The Pyramid Head rape scene where James is in the closet is completely lifted from Blue Velvet as well as some other visual cues lifted from Twin Peaks.

>bunnyhop, sseth
>not S tier
Nigga u gay

I HAVE watched Jacob's Ladder, it's nothing like the first Silent Hill. It fits 2 so much better that I'm starting to question whether or not you've even seen Jacob's Ladder. I don't think you know what you're talking about at all.

>being retarded.
Putted is used as slang for pigeonholing yourself.

he was in denial

If you don't think the crazy grate world Tim finds himself in near the end of the movie isn't like SH1, I don't know what to tell you.
Long and short of it, none of it takes away from the very poor quality dialogue and delivery in SH2.

>the only excuse why the writing is so wooden and the delivery is so stiff
I think you're forgetting the fact that the game is written by Japanese people in which case this is actually fairly normal.

>literally making shit up to save face
based retard

A story about a man learning to let go of his pain through a supernatural hell world is exactly what SH2 is. Jacob's Ladder just doesn't have Jacob being the one that intentionally killed his son, and instead of the hell world being a real place it's him transitioning to the afterlife. Maybe don't just say outright incorrect shit if you're gonna try to make a point about something.

There are two schools of thought:
1. The dialogue is totally fucked because of bad writing/Japan.
2. The dialogue is totally fucked because of a bad attempt at emulating Lynch.
There are scenes in SH2 that are inspired heavily by Lynch. It's your call honestly.

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>imagery looks the same as this other thing therefore bad
This isn't a secret at all, hell it's the most known thing about Silent Hill's visuals/storytelling. Also you're forgetting that Masahiro's art and motifs borrow from Francis Bacon more than anything else you've listed.

You're being pedantic.
SH2 is more inspired by the actual story, yes. I don't disagree. But the series was always inspired by JL visually and thematically.

>literal retard doesn't know anything.
Surprise surprise

Today I will remind them.

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I want to play this version of SH2.

Goddamn, James is fucking RIPPED

Just download The Suffering

You get a letter from your dead wife whose death was by your hand, then enter a foggy town where all manner of supernatural phenomenon are occurring and THEN you meet her attractive and seductive doppelganger who consistently shifts personalities between the young and vivacious double and the sweet wife you used to know.

That would fuck me in the head too.

Is that sniperwolf or whatever that faggot is called?
He also belongs in F tier for the garbage way he talks

It was inspired by a lot of horror movies. You reference the grates but the only time they even appear in Jacob's Ladder is in one scene in the hospital where he's on the stretcher. It's just dumb to try and say any of the games are trying to emulate one specific piece of horror or author/director, they took inspiration from plenty but ended up making their own thing.

to be fair you need a very high IQ to understand David Lynch

James puts himself through hell because he's suicidal, not because he's ignorant of the risk. He states in the graveyard at the beginning of the game that he knows something weird and dangerous is happening with the town, but he doesn't care what happens to him.

I never said it did that. You're making up a point in your head and running with it.

You've been going on about how 2 is ripping off Lynch poorly, unless you're a different guy in the reply chain.

This.
>*kills wife*
>gets a letter from her.
>"I guess I didn't kill her after all lol"
>goes and meets a doppelganger of his wife.
>"Hmm... I think this town is a little weird."
>jumps through a bunch of hoops for nothing essentially
>"i guess I plum forgot I killed her lol"
dumb game

That's the delivery of the dialogue and how it was trying to capture a certain otherness at times, but there are two schools of thought:
So either, it's very bad wooden, sparse, and poorly written, or its just these things trying to emulate someone else. Your call.

Holy shit you actually that fucking retarded

low blood sugar

no, he was pretty much nuts.

>Incomprehensible pseudo intellectual trash
I've met people like you and they're always the biggest fucking idiots in the room. I had to explain cost accounting to once and they just couldn't grasp the use of figuring out how much product and wages were paid for an incomplete batch of products, and then complained that all of this is completely useless in the real world.