Is this game bad in terms of being a competetive, fun, and deep fighting game?

The only people who say it isn't a fun and deep enough competitive game are FGCucks who think anything that isn't Street Fighter isn't a fighting game.

Based

Yeah it seems like super raw RPS-y... I know thats what fighting games generally are but usually theres layers n shit

Yes it is

It's the current best fighting game of this generation, and definitely the best one that will be at Evo.

In terms of character choices and movement options it is extremely deep and complex (inb4 memeing). Current stats on character placing in Smash Ultimate vs the other Smash games will show you how well balanced it is, as well.

Tbh, they did a really good job with the game.

It's kind of dull yeah

Oh man cant I have one thread without you stupid stinky niggers arguing which of your stinky nigger games is stinkier and niggier?

Olimar and Snake are the best characters right now right? And you just play them super degenerate and campy?
Yeah, I'm thinking its a dead game, nigga!

Huh?
The OP literally asked how this game was competitively?

He is the OP

Its a shitposting thread

You have no scope whatsoever.
>inb4memeing
You're either memeing or retarded

In all honesty I think it can be very competitive and fun to watch. Maybe it isn’t a fighting game in the traditional sense, but once you see a rob pull some crazy shit with a top and then spike a dude you can’t tell me this shit can’t be played in a higher level.
Also Pac-Man can pull some high IQ shit that just leaves me baffled when people pull it off.
It’s also one of the few games you can really bm and that’s what I live for in multiplayer games. All you can do in certain fighters is maybe tea bag.

It's pretty good, they just need to fix the input lag

I rarely see them, but they are menaces. I run into Roy more and let me tell you, I’d much rather prefer the camp.

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He has autism user.

Nah, if you want that in a smash game play smash 64 or melee, anything else won't make the cut, although I have to say that having so many characters makes the game interesting to visit from time to time

The game is flawed. Hit boxes are janky as hell and there will be countless times that you'll say "how did that hit me? Shielding is way to strong, it just regenerates way to quickly you can full power smash attack there shield see it shrink to over half way gone and then they'll hit you, run away and then have full shield back it makes campy and spammy play styles to good because there no way to widdle down there defenses. the meta is fucked because of the sword characters. You see lucina, Ike, cloud and roy/chrom are so good against 90% of the cast that they invaildate them . The other 10% are the characters that can beat the swordies however that 10% can have fair fights with most of the characters in the 90% the thing is theres still no point in playing one of those characters in the 90% because chances are you'll lose when you encounter a swordie.

One more thing never in any smash game has a character been as rediculous as ganondorf is now. Hes like one of those comedically powerful character people modded into brawl. He can kill anyone at 60% and he can get you to 60% in 2-3 hits. This charact removes the need to have skill in this game. Sure you can play around him but one fuck up and your dead

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Garbage single player experience. Even Wii U had more to offer.

Its good, most people that say no is because they want to shitpost, like other smash more.

did you really play wiiu??

This is the most balanced Smash Bros. game we've had BEFORE any patches were thrown in. That alone has made the competitive scene more interesting and fun to both watch and participate in. I wouldn't say it's "deep" because that's pretty subjective, what you consider deep may differ to what others think. Overall I wouldn't call it a fighting game, not in the traditional sense. It's not bad competitively, but the community may make it look bad.

In Ultimate, characters that aren't easy to play often require some form of proper execution practice, something a lot of new Smash Bros and fighting game players in general don't like, meaning that, in their eyes, about 85% of the entire cast is not viable for competition. It's retarded. Anyway yeah, it's good.

This, Ultimate's gameplay is great, but it's like they forgot everything around it.

They forgot literally everything but the roster. And rosterfags still aren't happy. Pandering to them was a fucking mistake. They're a black hole of entitlement.

Not but only because it's unique in it's gameplay compared to other fighting games.
>b-b-b-but
No. Of all platform fighters, Smash is the only good one.

It's not artifically deep. Youy could probably make a case for why competitive smash is super high IQ but the game itself is intentionally simple
It's fun unless you have anger management problems

I was really disappointed that all the stages were already there without you having to unlock them, I mean that was something so fun about melee and brawl, why take that away from the game? Something similar goes to the characters, unlocking them was just a matter of few hours playing stupid 1 v 1’s, i really missed having to work for all those things

>most balanced smash game
im not sure about that, I haven't seen so many characters win big tournaments in the few months that the game has been out

I would argue that 64’s is still more balanced, because is not impossible to win a tournament with any of the 12 available characters but well, ultimate is still young, it has time to improve things

Man, I fucking hate losing.

I was just in this guy's arena and we played a shit ton of 1v1s. He won nearly all of them, while I was able to win maybe 4 matches in total. He was amazing, and I consider myself an above average player.

Every time I lost I was so pissed, and desu, I'm pissed while I type this blog to my favourite peeps on 4channel! I legitimately wanted to hit something to release this tension that I had inside myself. And I even hated the guy I was losing to, despite him doing nothing wrong and despite me willingly staying in the arena.
The easy answer is to just git gud, and that's what I was doing. I was just getting my ass kicked over and over in an effort to get better.

So I hope you enjoyed my blog! Fuck off, all of you!

Have sex, raging incel

This is a good post

Give me your code. I'll fight you right now.

Go fuck yourself!!!!!

I like the game but what the fuck is up with how fast shields regenerate. Was it like that in 4, if it was I didn't notice it. Here it's constantly: "wow I almost broke their shield I'll get them next time, oh what the fuck the entire shield is back"

I'm disappointed spirits were so unrewarding to collect. Would it have killed them to leave a little history with them? Trophies were great because they listed key games and had flavor text leaving insight on who or what they are. While the process of collecting spirits is less RNG heavy (thankfully) they just get shoved somewhere and you forget about them. And there's no reason to look at them since they're just promotional art and don't even let you replay the battles for fun. The whole game doesn't give me the "celebration of Nintendo" vibe the previous ones did.

And on the topic of stages I'm still mad only bing bing and koroks of the wild got new stages out of all existing series. Or the fact that there were literally only 4 new stages total (without DLC). All those games between Smash Wii U and now will never get stages now. At least in this game.

It was even WORSE in smash 4

I unlocked all the spirits, and fucking nintendo doesn't give me even a "congrats!"
Fuck the store
Fuck the 90% of adventure mode
And fuck niggers

It was unironically a better fighter then this

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I mean from a gameplay standpoint its pretty deep and you have to invest a lot of time into it to even get decent.

The problem for most is the TRASH online gameplay. Its so fucking bad you will be ripping yourself a new asshole from pure anger. One thing is losing that shit happens in every game and it suck... But getting match with people who wanna 1 stock - all items, or the lag is dumb as fuck. Also the GSP system is more than worthless and progression only really comes down to how you can see yourself getting better.

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Based & Redpilled
Smash fags should die

No, idiots just praise the newest iteration of their fan fiction game.
imagine a die hard fire emblem or animal crossing fan, these are the people that praise this shit.
next smash it's going to be forgotten and it wouldn't even matter if the next game plays like brawl, as long as it's on a new console with a new pokemon,13 yos will defend it.

Not all the dlc spirits ;^)

It's alright but ultimately there's not that much subtlety or options to the many situations you can be put into, and the game's community already seems conflicted when the 2 best zoners in the game win a big event, and they're not that much happier when it's Wolf or Lucina doing so instead.

>Even Wii U had more to offer.
t.never played Smash 4.
>Worse arcade mode
>No single campaign
>Smash tour

Smash 4 had nothing besides the online.

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It’s a similar game to Smash 4. Only it’s 4 on steroids, so it’s faster. But Ultimate does not have the legs to keep up the new pace, so it ends up tripping over itself.

Its casual fun

Every mainline Smash game is, Melee included due to the limited viable roster.

The only good competitive Smash games are fanmade like Rivals of Aether and Project M.

The game doesn't even let you know if you collected all the music or Mii Fighter costumes. I thought I was missing something for the longest fucking time. The store isn't even the main problem. The amount of SP you need to grind for all the enhancing and crafting is. Everything is so fucking lazy.

Good with friends, like local multiplayer
Online is absolute garbage with more than 1 player, so unless you're an absolute tryhard you won't enjoy online play, solo play is literally just spirit fights over and over again, nothing like subspace emissary and there aren't any other modes like home run contest or break the targets, but then again I've seen people playing for just against the CPUs in vs matches
Im honestly just waiting for them to announce another shit character like steve so i can sell my copy and move on from smash

Honestly having classic mode being randomized means it's at least different every time. And I'll take a real All Star mode and Crazy Orders over World of Light. Hell Events mode is better than Spirits. There's no replayability to any of these modes in Ultimate. Nor is there any real progression after you unlock all the characters. The challenges are the easiest in the series.