Anime Fightan

Perhaps, it's definitely not out of the question. I think one of the namefag stays in /afgg/ just because he knows he's the king of the small pond and literally refuses to see anyone in a game if it threatens his position.

what do you mean?

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/afgg/'s skill ceiling is incredibly low

i actually enjoy GG though. I have played enough locally and random matchmaking. I only desire to help people understand the mechanics and watch them git gud to the point im getting my ass kicked.

Why they gotta hate? Good bantz are infinitely better.

Make sure you're playing the latest release. They put out a new one every other week...

All of my friends are into overwatch and shit, they hate fighters because they're archaic according to them.

the game does not get an update every week

If you play on Guilty Gear you see people post a lobby that says West Coast or East Coast, Europe/what your region is. If you don't then make one yourself. You can open up training mode in your lobby while you wait for opponents. If you don't wanna do that then you have another site you can seek out opponents, I think you know what I'm talking about.

Nobody matchmakes on Reddit, all of them are on Discord.

/ggg/ used to be good but it's shit now, I wouldn't recommend either

they arent entirely wrong. To the extent that humans beat eachother, and im the best people beater there is.

>Good bantz
/afgg/ and a good chunk of Yea Forums are incredibly thin-skinned, pussyfooting sissies. They'd rather train in training mode all fucking day than ever want to taste defeat online. I wish I was kidding but /afgg/ is pathetic and petty. Most of them don't want to understand.

Has it? What happened?

What makes them so pathetic and petty? I'm sure they play matches.

You need to use Discord if you want good games in anime fighters. That's how it's been forever. Before Discord it was Skype or IRC.

The normal matchmaking in most anime fighters like GG is so barren that I can legitimately find a match faster playing dead shit on Fightcade. It's a shame.

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It's hard to get into this genre if you are a beginner or just bad.
The same people that tell beginners to play with experienced players to learn more are the same guys that hate playing against worse players that can't take a match from them in a set.

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10% of them do, and bless their souls for wanting to fulfill the purpose of their general.
But 90% of actual bootlickers who hoist up a respective namefag's opinion and treat it as gospel. They're so weak willed that they'll do anything for said namefag's opinion. Any good with a name usually gets shitposted to death and people falseflag as said namefags to stir up more shit. The ratio to games being played and shitposting is incredibly skewed.

Most of the playerbase got burned out and quit the game, the only people remaining are the autists hanging onto the last vestiges of a dying community because they have nowhere else to go and they spend their time shitposting and fighting over scraps of drama left by /afgg/. It's a shame, it really used to be a nice little oasis of wholesomeness and good discussion on Yea Forums but that /ggg/ doesn't exist anymore.

Such is the fate of generals for not only a game that is in desperate need of updates but also being 24/7
You're just bound to lose shit to talk about and devolve into petty squabbles. A shame, I just picked up Rev 2 for like 10 bucks in a sale.

GG discussions stopped being worth engaging in when the #Reload threads died desu

The first few weeks of Xrd threads weren't too bad but it seemed like it pretty quickly spiraled into shitposting

Don't even need Discord for GG. If you aren't in a 3rd world shithole, there's usually a lobby up during reasonable hours.

It's true.
Why do Discorders hate beginners so much though? You'd expect them to be used to them by now but all of them bitch and moan whenever they have to fight someone significantly worse than them.
Beginners don't get better by fighting other Beginners either.

The process of getting good is kinda just fucked, unless you start playing on launch you'll be casted out.

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You do if you want to become reasonably decent at the game. The stronger players very very very rarely play in public lobbies.

>The stronger players very very very rarely play in public lobbies.
You mean the same strong players that tell you to fuck off when you aren't good enough for them?

The only way to get better is to play people better than you. That's why all of the strong players only really care about playing each other.

It's a shame, but most people are going to prioritize personal growth over community growth even as the game is obviously suffering for it.

I started playing on Discord, was going fine, got matches from different people but then suddenly they all stopped responding and I haven't gotten a single match in 6 days.
I feel like I got blacklisted or everyone is avoiding me because I am too bad, it feels bad.

I myself haven't quit, just taking a break with other things, but I probably won't pop my head into /ggg/ too often anyways for the reasons you posted and mostly stick with public lobbies until an announcement of some sort ever comes.

Literally just search the player made rooms. I play xrd everyday and have no trouble finding games without discord.

When will Sol get sidewinder back?

Discord is a meme to prevent people from buying the game. Smells like a whole lot of samefag in this thread.

>public lobbies

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What in the fuck are you actually talking about. The dustloop forums are completely barren because they migrated to discord for example. How is telling people to go online and matchmake a deterrent?

Welcome to the FGC.
Now get the fuck out, scrub.

>YOU CANT FIND ANY MATCHES UNLESS YOU USE DISCORD
>moves goal posts
>YOU CAN ONLY GET BETTER IF YOU DONT USE PUBLIC LOBBIES

Speaking of Anime fighters, whose hyped for the granblue fighting game?

He's probably a beginner. Public lobbies are perfectly fine for that level of play.

It's not an IP I'm all too eager to get into so I'm ambivalent towards it

The skill system looks horrendous, I was hyped before that but I kinda just hate it now and want a new GG or BB already.

Randoms don't give advice. It will take him months to even find out basic fighting game shit like Oki, Abare, Pressure etc

>strong players that tell you to fuck off when you aren't good enough for them
Just don't be bad lmao

Rising Thunder animu edition

Is it even possible to get good by just using training mode for a very long time?

No.

No it is not.
Unless you have some really strong players who are your irl/internet friends, you won't be able to get stronger.

the FGC isnt like that at all. just small anime game players. and then they bitch about people not playing their games.

>don't play with strong players u suck
>don't play with beginners they suck
>can't get good with just training mode
then what?

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No. Becoming good at a fighting game requires a mix of playing actual people and training mode.

>Arcsys Yu Yu game never ever

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Now you understand the problem. Most of the people I know that learned GG recently either started THE DAY that Xrd launched, or they already had friends who knew how to play the game that helped teach them.

Pick a different game or go make some friends.

You gotta do what you want. Fighting games are a genre where if you wanna improve at all you have to be assertive and take things into your own hands.

Training mode does not teach you how to git gud, it only helps you practice combos and learn your character's moves.

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fucking what? the game is more poppin than ever thanks to discord. it sounds like whatever discord you use is for casuals

just play SFV like a non-tranny would

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There's a thread up right now ifyou wanna play UNIST. Everyone there is pretty cool.

The lobbies are hosted from 9:30PM PST to usually 12:30AM-1:00AM PST and sometimes later depending on the host, Sunday-Thursday. PS and PC both have been having healthy lobbies lately.

I play guilty gear on psn, a very dead community, and even I can find matches. you just have to be patient and realistic.

>know your time zone and plan accordingly. east coast players will not be online at 2 am Pacific (unless they are). players are most likely to be on after work, especially on weekends and Fridays

>make lobbies and be patient. anime especially loves frame-precise bullshit, so ranked is dead. also put your time zone in the lobby title

>Add players you do find to your friends list. try to talk to them, even a little. you're going to have to build your own little community now

>DONT FUCKING USE WIFI GOD DAMMIT WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? If you have to, STICK TO YOUR TIME ZONE

>Accept that you play a dead game, and be patient. all you need is one opponent and you could have matches all day

Good luck OP

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>I want my community to grow!
>wtf why are these day 1/week 1 players so bad, fuck off!

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and setups. and dealing with what people use against you.

I have been to that thread countless times already and there is not a single EU player there and even if there were I doubt they'd want to play with a day 0 beginner.

PSN GG is like 6-7 frames of delay with an average connection after you count the native input delay. It's not even worth playing.

>they'd want to play with a day 0 beginner.
That's where you're wrong a lot of people there started from zero and worked their way up.
But the part you're right about is that the threads are NA and not EU

You can learn setups as well and good training modes that let you record can allow you to practice how to counter certain strings/setups/situations. But you’re not going to know what to lab without match experience

>expecting a Ram player to act like a decent person
I wouldn't be surprised if the Chen guy was laggy or bad or both. That is not an excuse but I understand where Onimario is coming from.

When the skill difference is high and the connection is good, the better player basically has three options: fuck around during the match, stomp the new guy or try and train them. None of these are probably what they joined the lobby for and the third one is hard to do for many reasons and there is no guarantee the one getting taught even wants to learn anything.
What I would do is ask for advice as politely as you possibly can and see how they respond. In a full lobby someone might be up to answering your questions even if your current opponent isn't. Try to ascertain if that player wouldn't mind showing you the ropes if you get an answer. Add them and players of your skill level or just people who are fun to play with in Steam. In addition to relying on randoms in public lobbies you could join a community like a character discord or some other channels and look at their resources for new players and matchmaking. I can't speak for all of them but the few I've seen are pretty good.

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I like to stomp them with their own character and hope they learn something from it. Sometimes they do.

Uh, I was just shitposting for the most part but thanks?
I play with /afgg/ because from my experience those guys have been tenfolds nicer than the scumbags like OniMario on discord + random lobbies.

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its the better player's responsibility to train. I cant get better if I cant fight opponents close to my skill zone. If they dont want to learn you crush them. Its still a learning experience so you are still teaching.

>/afgg/
>nice
are we talking about the same general here?

just shitposting for the most part?

you gotta swap back to your main and guide them afterwards though.

how do you know he plays ramlethal?

Nah, FT10 and then I'm out. They've got replays.

>mfw someone beats me in a fighting game

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man you FGC niggers are so autistic no wonder nobody wants to play your games when you are so opposed to new players

He's one of the stronger EU players, if you play GG in EU you know who he is

I like to play melty blood

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I main ciel

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>Is generally recognised as UNGABUNGA
>Try it
>Get zoned by ever character in the game
>I unironically have a much better win ratio with Ramlethal and Bedman

What am i doing wrong here ? I want to play this fucker so bad

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Character community discord is not an awful way to learn. Typically there is a ton of supplementary material pinned somewhere, explaining BnBs (at the very least). They are also generally significantly more helpful than entire servers.

don't bother with either Yea Forums or /vg/, neither actually play the game aside from like 2-3 posters and the tripfag/closed group politics are not worth it

Yeah, I guess you could just play like you would normally and remind them to watch the replays to learn what to do about it. I feel trying to not look like a dick doing that might be a challenge.

Like the other guy said, he's one of the better and well-known Ramlethals in the EU-area.

the #/vg/arcsysgames IRC still exists/spoiler]
its about 16ish guys now and we all know eachother for years

Seems like playing on launch is the best and only way to learn.
Don't wanna deal with people like the ram guy ( ) just to play some damn games

Sadly, yes. Most anime fighters go through a new iteration every couple of years, bar GG which seems to be dying. In my personal experience, dustloop discords were actually pretty supportive of new players, though I cannot vouch for anything as of recent.

Are you the same people who played BB on Yea Forums a couple years back?

get a fucking life incel these anime "games" are pathetic.
fucking incels who will never reproduce.

have sex

I like Jam. Very much.

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I fap to Ciel

a couple people played it but I don't think anyone really plays it anymore. Its really just a personal chatroom for us now.

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Everyday

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so same shit as every other fighting game general

And sometimes Riesbyfe

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>Seems like playing on launch is the best and only way to learn
I'm getting a feeling here that you're letting your losses affect you too much in addition to you being frustrated with a lack of progress. Do not think everyone in the community is like this one person. You're still going to run into people who act like assholes no matter how new the game is and you're certainly going to learn less from a fresh playerbase than what you would from an older playerbase. You learn even if you lose and if you get to play someone that doesn't dodge you, ie. most other people you will run into, you could use the replays to look into how you play against the character like what was said in the previous posts in addition to asking them and using other resources.

You would win more playing against a fresh playerbase and that might be more fun but that is not the best way to learn.

I used to go on #Yea Forumsfightan back when IRC was popular but most of the people I know from there have moved onto other things. There wouldn't happen to be any stragglers from there, would there?

>only way

If you're a bitch maybe. People pick up old games all the time and get good at them.

based

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Now this is actually bad

t. Ciel main

Do you fap to her scenes in Tsukihime?

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A lot of people that pick up old fighting games have already had experience in previous ones. Enough to build fundamentals.

And thanks to those fundies they get good fast, I can't do that and it leads to everyone growing tired of me and dodging.

God you're the same dumbass from afgg

I've seen people with no previous fighting game experience pick melty and get pretty good in just one year.

im also a slow learner

any discord links to ggg or afgg

they're generals not discords

You're not wrong, but there is a tendency for already formed communities to engage in that sort of thing. Players who stick out like sore thumbs at anything that isn't a public event are the ones who usually get the brunt of animosity--damned if you are better than the rest of the players, damned if you are worse than the rest of the players.
It's not that he would win more necessarily. It's just that there is not an established clique of people/culture that pushes outsiders away. Although I wouldn't be surprised if OP is just a cunt at all.
Not IRC. I think that one had a skype or a discord. This was long ago but not that long ago.
Find one person who is significantly better than you and play him on a regular basis. The way I learned to block properly was by having one dude just blow through like 50+ rounds in one sitting until I learned.

There's nothing wrong with that, I am too. Just stop crying about it.

>Find one person who is significantly better than you and play him on a regular basis.
How regular are we talking.
I have someone added who is very good but we only play like once every two weeks and he only sticks around for 3-5 games before getting bored of me

>A lot of people that pick up old fighting games have already had experience in previous ones
All you need is to play and to grow some patience and a thicker skin.
Keep playing. Do not let what people say or do get to you. Do not stop going to lobbies, do not stop hosting lobbies. Losing is natural and every single player loses and when they are beginning, they lose a lot.

I think I know who you are, would you like to play GG right now?

>I think I know who you are

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>I think I know who you are, would you like to play GG right now?
???????
I'm a blazblue player anyway

i mean the generals' discords

What was said seemed familiar and I assumed they played GG and had visited /vg/ at some point.

You're mistaken then because I'd never go on /vg/.

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Semi related I just bought a fight stick and while I use it for fighting I've found it more fun to use it for shmups and classic retro games like NES and gba.

Is this normal.

yeah the stick feels nice

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As in fucking daily or at least 3-4 times per week. If you are lacking fundamentals, your main goals should be learning how to block, using game functions like DAA effectively, and knowing what normals are safe and unsafe. 50+ rounds helped for me because at that point I was doing nothing BUT blocking, but that shit got reinforced over the next days and months.
Watch videos on match-ups specifically, because knowing when to poke out is crucial to not dying. Learn instant/just guarding (even in netplay), because that shit goes a long way.
As a side note, if you wanna get good, it's gonna have to take at least 1 hour of grind per day. Are you going through videos of famous players for your character? Do you learn how to punish specific set-ups? GG is not a big game. Some players treat it as if the game is their wife. Negative responses you are getting may or may not be based on your possible lack of commitment.
seeking help on this subject here is a fundamentally shit idea, why would you go here to ask about getting good at something that isn't a hyped classic

I started learning how to IB certain things like Susanoo's 6B and have been trying to do it in real matches but it's not going so well..
I'll keep trying thanks for the advice!
Also I just asked here because there was an opportunity to do so, I really hate discord due to bad experiences so I don't wanna go on there.

You're never gonna be good if you don't go on discord

Why?

Cause all the people who take the game even half seriously play on discord and it's the only way to have consistent good competition, discussion and info about anime games.

>I really hate discord
You are going to have a fundamental problem with the community as long as you don't get over it.
Fighting games are typically not played single player--you're gonna have to make friends to get info, training partners, etc. It's a community based game that you won't get better at if you play in a vacuum. With the dying playerbase, the community grew even smaller and had to stick to each other, with Discord being (arguably) the best of options at that time. The entire FGC infrastructure is there.
Do you have IRL friends who play the game? Do you know if there are events that run in your area? You could try attending a local tournament of a sort, even just to watch people play, and getting to know some people there.

Do note that Dustloop discords are significantly better than most experience you can get from /vg/ and that not every community is the same. You can get fucked over by talking to the wrong person over skype or IRC too. Most people do not inquire into any personal details in my experience. Just lurking should be typically acceptable.

We'll get revived in a few months when the next game is announced don't worry.

but they're rude
i dont have any locals (i checked) or friends

>but they're rude
This is the opposite of my experience with people on Dustloop. I am sorry that I can't recommend you much besides that at this point. It is, after all, a social game.

I thought dustloop was dead?

It's annoying how fragmented FGC resources are these days from relic forums, wikis, fb groups (which are for some reason ALWAYS fucking private), twitter, youtube, reddit, and discords out of the wazoo. Researching like I'm doing a thesis just to find out when my locals happen always deterred me from this shit

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Forums are. Discords--not so much.
You COULD try reddit, I think big players used to play there at some point.

So what's an anime fighter?

It's unfortunate but you're going to struggle if you don't have locals and refuse to use Discord. Anime fighters are the sort of game where you need one or the other, ideally both because netplay is even worse than usual.

yea, sure thats what deterred you

Get in with FD

It's not why I stopped playing but it sure is the reason why I'll never pick up another fg again.

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>The same people that tell beginners to play with experienced players to learn more are the same guys that hate playing against worse players that can't take a match from them in a set.

Now that's just not true. I enjoy seeing beginner players grow from their mistakes to make some major improvements to their fundamentals.

At least it's not true for me.

I meant to add that I was one of those newbie players starting out last year and after taking several beatings, I can now go toe to toe with the higher skill players in the lobbies I play with, and I hope to encourage other people starting to get serious with the genre to just stick it out because you'll eventually feel the reward for doing so.

Not him but the people who play games are good people. Just avoid the name drama and you can even find matches for games that hardly get played like Chaos Code and VanPri.