So Yea Forums. Who'd you side with?

Slipcover. Came with a mini guide/artbook and a CD with sample tracks.

HOOOOOOY GAAAAAANG

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A route that isnt boring
Hooooyyyy gaaaaaang

>eyebrows that thin
Whoever drew that needs to pay

>tfw gunning for chaos on this run

I don't remember, it's been years.

LAWCHADS ASSEMBLE
also wtf everyday there is a persona or smt thread, did P5R made that ?

So the story was roughly based on Paradise Lost, as we should all know. But that means that Mikado must be acknowledged as the "Paradise", the Garden of Eden, with the Black Samurai serving as the serpent offering forbidden knowledge. Even if Mikado has a flawed caste system, ignorance truly was bliss and nobody seemed to mind. Casualries were proud of their simple lives, even if they were looked down upon by some Luxurors. Even after the caste system is abolished and the people of Mikado become semi-brainwashed into accepting it, they're still at least happy. Anytime that the forces of Chaos invade into the domain of Law, their freedom of knowledge brings with it misery. Life only becomes worse for those involved, even if they believe their knowledge makes them more enlightened. I would have much rather lived a happy ignorant life in Mikado than had to fight every day of my life just to stay alive among countless others living the same struggle. The idea of earning your place in a world of strength is lip service. Chances are that you and everyone you ever cared about will die meaningless deaths or experience miserable suffering that makes you question why you bother to stay alive. There can only be one on top, but there will never be peace of mind. Even as the strongest, you are a walking target. Fear of you begets worship begets hypocrisy. All-encompassing freedom is an illusion, a simple phrase that can never be.

I ended up with Law on my first playthrough. I got cucked by daddy God just like every Law path in every SMT game, so I replayed and got Neutral.

>Chaoscringe
Have fun getting assraped by demons lol

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Cmon you dumb smooth brainer, just dissect your brain and find the brain fold that has that memory then, dummy.

Even P3 and 4 faggs are getting anoyyed at p5 babys

see

I have no doubt that this is a good game but why release it on the 3DS? Why not on a Playstation console where it can reach a larger audience instead of a handheld for kids?

Well I have only beat this game one time and I chose white ending because every other character deserved to never exist again.

>neutralcucks
Enjoy getting fucked by both demons and angels

Persona threads have been used for shitposting since the Joker reveal got people scared.
SMT threads happen more often because the Persona shitposting leaks into them prompting the creation of new threads.

SMT is mostly Nintendo

Persona and SMT are very separate
The lastest SMT entry is literally the game where you kill your friends
The lastest Persona all of your friends constantly suck your dick

Don't fuck monkeys, you could get a disease you sick bastard.

But neutral wipes out the angels and demons.

That explains it

>Why not on a Playstation console where it can reach a larger audience
Because the audience for smt doesn't exist on PlayStation platforms. Just look at nocturne. It didn't sell any better than previous entries despite being on the ps2 and being worldwide.

What's the difference between SMT and Persona? I've never played them.

3DS sold more than PS4 at the time

Strange Journey was on the DS, along with Devil Survivor 1 and 2. SMT I and II were ported to the Game Boy. Devil Children was on the GBC and GBA. SMT I, II, and if... were all originally Super Famicom games. The Atlus series started on the Famicom with Megami Tensei and Megami Tensei II, which were collected into a Super Famicom remake. Majin Tensei and Majin Tensei II were Super Famicom games. And Last Bible was on the Game Boy.

It's fine. She's healthy.

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>can't find a copy for this anywhere in Canada
aaaaaaaaaaaaa

This is what neutralfags actually believe. There is not a single neutral ending where demons are gone longer than 150 years, and in the majority of cases they are still present.

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Maybe because the Persona Musou is literally just Persona 5 Musou not Persona Warriors
Persona 5 is literally pushing out other Personafags as even they get next to completely ignored

SMT = Biblical apocalyptic demon summoning cyberpunk alignment choosing friend killing JRPG
Persona = Stylish calendar managing visual novel dating sim Jungian high school JRPG

>p3 and 4 fags finally get the same threatment as p1 and 2
Worse than dead - forgotten

SMT is a game with themes of societal change, corrupt gods and the duality of man.
Persona until 2 is a game about mental issues manifesting into reality.
Persona 3+ is a visual novel with bits of rpg interspersed within.

True
Honestly I still want that Nocturne Remaster.
A handful of patches would turn it from a 6/10 Confusing fucking mess to a solid 9.5 Near masterpiece

>Tfw somehow lucked into Neutral the first time
Even though I got the Whites Ending first since I thought that having that option available was locking into the Neutral route

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based and whitepilled

>Honestly I still want that Nocturne Remaster.
As a European Megaten fan I would suck a dick for that. All of our versions are still broke..

>getting the best ending before getting the little bitch errand boy ending
You're supposed to do neutral first, so that way you appreciate its futility and can fully embrace the White.

Let's get things started.
>Favorite mainline title
>Favorite boss fight in the series
>Your OST theme
>Favorite Megaten protagonist
>Alignment

are snoys starting to portbeg

What about the massacre ending in Apocalypse?

Yeah because becoming gods bitch, being a brainwashed slave, killing yourself and performing genocide while the cycle repeats itself or getting overrun by demons, living in fear and paranoia while the world burns, and again having the cycle repeats itself are better options.

>first playthrough
>try going chaos because fuck law and neutral is apparently hard to get
>get locked on neutral
I'LL FUCKING TAKE IT

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>Canadian
>Bought on a whim the day after it came out early in the morning
>Walmart got three copies and had one left
>Looked super premium, and had a deal where registering it with Fire Emblem Awakening on Club Nintendo would give like $20 in eShop credit
>Become really invested in the game
>Import pretty much every official book for the game, along with the OST and the English art book despite already owning the Japanese one
>Still haven't beat it, my stats are distributed equally, and I have first area demons in my party around level 50
My Centaur's Bufu knows no limits

Humanity is replaced with a new creation. Nanashi becomes YHVH, and the cycle continues.

>starting

>starting

>EuroBro
My heart goes out for you fellow Megaten bro
I’m still surprised they haven’t don’t this yet.
I’d pay anything to hear Nocturne’s Boss theme in HD

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It was pretty clear that the game was very low budget, what with the sprite demons and sprite npcs that were even lower res than the demons.

It really feels like Hashino is very protective of his games and Persona's success gave him power to do that. the PS2 models weren't reused for any 3ds games (even though Etrian Odyssey and Persona Q had no issue with 3d graphics) and SMTV doesn't seem to be reusing the Persona 5 models either.

Is Strange Journey considered mainline?

Nanashi won't be a YHVH, that's kinda the point. YHVH is drunk on power.

I honestly wish that the MC didn't die in the Law ending. Obviously it's there to show that God's a backstabbing bastard who doesn't deserve your loyalty, but really isn't it enough to just be a cucked slave who just perpetuated genocide?

Maybe we'll get it one day. It was said in an interview that they were interested in remaking it if I remember right.

As a Christian... I was offended when YHVH was made out to be a demon during that 2nd form fight. I had to turn off my game and return it.

Blasphemy is a sin.

It's actually more reasonable to ask why Nocturne was released on the PS2. Given the series' history and general preference of Nintendo consoles, it's strange that they released it on a Sony console all of a sudden. Though maybe they just moved with the sales at a certain point.

Strange Journey Redux
Minotaur
youtu.be/7RiHmQcHa84
Based Bug Able
Neutral

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>SMTV doesn't seem to be reusing the Persona 5 models either
yes it does, plus the gacha reuses at least the animations
Hashino is not the one making the models. IV used sprites most likely because they wanted more demons and the guest artists worked better in 2D

That's the part that got you to turn off the game?

yes

>Implying there wasn’t portbeg for SMT IV and Persona Q

YHVH is a fag

The Nintendo 64 was almost a complete desert for third parties in Japan, even more so than in the West. Atlus was putting everything on the PSOne for a while and just kind of continued with the PS2. The GBA got some ports, but they only really returned to making new SMT-related games for Nintendo with the DS.

Based

I'm willing to bet Sony had some kind of exclusivity contract or something.

ps2 was popular especially in japan.
reasoning for 4 would be the popularity of handhelds and this would apply to 5 on switch.
remember atlus only cares about the domestic market before ww

Nani?
Why wouldn’t they use P5 models?
The work is already done
Making new models is infinitely harder than porting

>Atlus was putting everything on the PSOne for a while
Not really. It was mostly just ports that also went to either pc or saturn outside of Persona 2

Man the soundtrack in these games are really good. I was listening to Nocturne's OST earlier, and a lot of the themes were nice.
>youtube.com/watch?v=B274jFa5hxY
>youtube.com/watch?v=qoSkvI3wPUc

But you don't get a pet monkey or laid in the Whites Ending, nor do you become the peoples' champion.

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Walter is a bro, and i'll always follow my bros

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YHVH isn’t Jehovah you idiot
If anything YHVH is a false god and kicking the shit out of him is what god would want.
Aren’t you a follower of god user?

>The GBA got some ports,
To be fair, the Demi Kids series also started on it.

What is the best combat theme and why is it youtube.com/watch?v=BGORm3P0F1w

Hashino has nothing to do with the usage of 3D models though. I don't know where you got that from user.

I'm going by the oni models in the teaser. They seem to have a couple of different details from the Persona 5 models even though both are obviously based on the same design.

The mobage also was outright said to have all new models.

youtube.com/watch?v=af9pTcq5uSo

Scratch that, I forgot it had a ps1 game.

I'm kinda sad that Apocalypse, while being a more balanced and challenging game, shit all over the story this game had which I thought was pretty cool. I wish Apocalypse was just something else entirely.

This
Hashino didn't make DDS or Raidou, they reused demon models

How many demons does P5 have again? Anywho, there was an interview with Yamai (head developer of V), and he said they were putting in a lot of work on the demon models.

retard

Because it's suspicious that we got no games using them after the PS2 gen outside of the Persona titles themselves, and now the SMT games that have models seem to have new ones rather than reusing the ones of other recent games. It really does feel like there's some kind of internal split over there.

About 200 give or take persona exclusives.

WHY DON'T YOU PLAY A REAL SHIN MEGOOMI TENSAY GAME LIKE NOCTURNE OR STRANGE JOURNEY?

It started as an enhanced version, and I kind of wish they had just gone with that. SMTIV with fixed gameplay and bigger law/chaos/neutral routes would be easily better than Apocalypse.

As much as I wanted to go after Lilith after so much time spent chasing her, Walter's route had more new enemy designs, was longer, and I think that Flynn wouldn't be the type of person to let his friend go off somewhere dangerous on his own.

Which is why I think this split started after Persona exploded in popularity and so he'd get larger influence.

Apocalypse ruined a lot of things that 4 executed smoothly. I feel like their balancing was shit too, I dont like the idea of needing end game demons for YHVH, but still having them learn shit tier moves that use too much SP.

Why the fuck did they nerf every single demon to the point all of them had similar moves by the end? It was obnoxious. Still, I liked how there were more and better bosses.

Apoc was still a shit show story wise, reusing assets, literally just recycling countless dungeons, etc etc.

>Atlus was putting everything on the PSOne for a while
The only new games they made for ps1 were the Persona games though, everything else was a port.
Even Soul Hackers was ported about two years after it came to Saturn.

Mainline SMT just kind of skipped that Gen.

Honestly that kind of bothers me too. It's hard to look past it.

Based and neutralpilled

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I was lawfagging for the first half of the game, but after the twist with the Reds I went chaos, but I had a real hard time on that final decision of let God nuke the planet and have all humans live in a barren desert wasteland, or pick Chaos which wipes out the entire human race to be nothing but feeding cattle for demons.
Lucked my way into neutral.

Fair weather Christian detected
>Let is pray
We'll sacrifice the son of Heaven.
Man's greatest glimpse of fire red.
Oh, how they're lost in their prayers for our greatest God.
Let me sleep please! I am a man, once demon.
I grow tired as heart and person weaken
On the name of God! I will not crack! Can you hear them, God?
I will not crack! Can you hear them god?

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>SMT 3 Chaos is obvious canon choice
>SMT 4 and 4:A Neutral is obvious canon choice

Oh boy I hope 5 finally restores THE LAW to its rightful place as best alignment. Atlus sent all the "rebellious" teens to work on P5 so only the stalwarts of THE LORD worked on SMT 5.

Maybe because the 3DS couldn't handle fully 3D battles? That's the only reason why. Now that we're moving back to a console of sorts, we can have 3D demon models again.

whos a better bro, walter or dadga?

>Maybe because the 3DS couldn't handle fully 3D battles?
Like I said, Persona Q and Etrian Odyssey had no issue with 3d monsters.

Got neutral my first run, which made replaying for law and chaos somewhat underwhelming

you seem like a trustworthy fellow. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

>Maybe because the 3DS couldn't handle fully 3D battles
Nah, several RPGs have 3d battles that run well pokemon being the exception because GF don't know shit. Even YHVH in Apoc was 3d after all.
It was either a stylistic choice or they didn't want to waste time making models for everything.

I like the 2D demons and it always cracked me up how they die in different ways depending on what move you used to end them.
Seeing shitters like those birdmen get punted into the sun after a phys move was great.

>Agi HoyBoy
>Based Skelly
Though Hoys have better memes I gotta go with Dadga
He’s one of the few good things in SMT A

But 200 to 300 demons though? That's a lot.

I FUCKING REMEMBER YOU

The white were right.

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>Waste time making Models
Ding ding ding
Remember they had their budget cut while Atlus’s parent company was bleeding money
The SMT plus Fire elemblem Awaking Cross promotion literally came last minute

The entire cast is so insufferable that Dagda ends up looking absolutely right.

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IV is terribled compared to Final gameplay wise, what the fuck are you going on about?
>Apocalypse ruined a lot of things that 4 executed smoothly
Like what? IV really plays like shit, STR doesn't work, dungeons are nonexistent, smirk is broken, partners are retarded etc
>I dont like the idea of needing end game demons for YHVH
What? This is a good thing, you have a much faster exp gain so you can actually use all the lategame demons you otherwise would never touch due to the level cap
>but still having them learn shit tier moves that use too much SP
Affinities exist for a reason, they never learn moves with a bad affinity. This is to promote a variety of demons instead of using the same exact ones which homogenized everything
>Why the fuck did they nerf every single demon to the point all of them had similar moves by the end
They didn't? Demons are actually a lot more balanced then IV.

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>tfw neutral on first playthrough without a guide

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I really think it's a budget issue considering how the npcs had even lower res sprites than the demons. You could barely make out their designs with how small they generally were.

This was my first SMT and i made a harem of qtdemons, maxed out lucked and became a soldier of god, striking down lucifer. Been hooked on the series ever since.

My brother

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SMT4's story is shit too, people just overlook that because it was their first SMT

Dagda would be right regardless though.

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Is this Karma?

Imo, the partner system in apoc is just as broken as smirk in the original iv. Other things are improved, yeah, but that kind of trivialized a lot of battles

Nocturne would've been more enjoyable if Demiqua wasn't too much of a bitch to kill his friends earlier.

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I followed my heart and got Law, wasn't at all what I was expecting

SMT4's story only real problem is how badly they handled the route split (where you see nothing of the other factions) which just results in all paths feeling incomplete and the end-game enemies feeling like they're just standing around without doing anything.

Play on Apocalypse mode. The partner gauge is worthless since they can't hit anything.

>Found out they were reading passages from the Bible not playing barking dog noises
God damn they really need to fire their sound producer guy

hi

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It really wasn't. Everything was relatively good until the alignment split. Mikado could have used more focus as well, but all around it was a solid game.

Dagda was always right
Honestly I hope they put him in SMT V.
He’s just too good to be a one and done deal

But all of Demi-fiends friend are assholes

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>the cd drama reveals that demi fiend only wanted to fuck chiaki and didnt give a shit about angry neet and oc donut steel cd drama protagonist

I'm confused on how to feel about the alignment system. I like it a lot better in 4 because it feels like your choices have a lot more impact, especially since most are strictly law/chaos answer, so it's not just "pick the ending you want, bro". I believe it genuinely reflects who you are as a person and what your values are when you play through not trying to get a specific ending. I know several times when I played I had to stop and consider the repercussions of my answers, do I allow the corrupt Yakuza to continue rule, sacrificing the lives of children, or do I throw that away, resulting in the Yakuza getting overthrown, but also a lot more innocent lives are at stake since humans simply can't win against a horde of demons.
Where this falls apart is that after your first run, you'll likely want to reach a specific ending, in 4s case, neutral. So all of those choices along the way are all just planned out beforehand so you don't end up with the ending you don't want.

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I unironically liked Astaroth's design in IV.

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How can 1 character be so based?

Playing IV, I answered as I would in real life and got the neutral ending completely blind

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The alignment choices are fucked in IV, it is actually possible to become too neutral to get the neutral ending.

How?

The white ending

Oh. That's what you mean.

Kindness

Deep down, so is everybody else.

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Your friends sick your sick in IV:A, even if you can kill them. I don't think there's any character in any MegaTen whose more blatant waifubait than Toki either. That aside, they are different, but they're associated enough that it's easy to see how one getting attention would give the other attention too.

Are you ready to purge the filth from THE LAND OF THE LORD?

They haven't even, P3 and 4 are still popular and both still get spinoff appearances.

I doubt that. It's probably just like P4A.

Law.
Fuck demons and fuck Tokyo

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>I don't think there's any character in any MegaTen whose more blatant waifubait than Toki either

Essentially every female in Persona IV: Apocalypse is waifubait of the highest caliber.

Final is nothing like Persona

Girl I've been drinking all day..

I'm just trying to take you home without a word

If I've never played SMT4 should I play vanilla or apocalypse?

You remind me of a feeling that I used to have..

apocalypse is the better game but its a sequel (or midquel i guess), not like a remake or anything. play both

I'm just trying to let you leave without a word

Vanilla first, then Apocalypse after. Apocalypse re-uses a lot of assets, but it is a different game.

It's way too "power of friendship" and saddles you with a cancerous supporting cast.

You're so wrong. Why can't you see this user? I don't want to argue with you any further. Please stop.

So nothing like Persona. Okay. Remember that time it focused on Jungian psychology and takes place in a high school?

Fuck off persoyna neutralcuck
This is a hoy thread

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>we will never get this

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This. The writers wag their fucking finger at the player for choosing dagda too. It's such a disappointment for smt.

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Not this and no they don't.

Imagine if during Nocturne Demifiend met up with Dagda.
If he manged a contract with him as well he would have been turbo broken.

Theres really no reason to play IV, it's not a really good game. Apocalypse gives you all the info you need to know.

Based taste.

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How would he move if he wasn't a stationary 2D picture?

Magic

Yuko isn't. Nocturne is so based to Freedom it's insane

>Nocturne
>David in SMT: IV because he's a total surprise and slapped my shit the first time
>youtube.com/watch?v=xIO2sehaC-8
>Demi Fiend

Alignment depends on the game. I tend to get Law on my blind playthroughs, but the TDE in Nocturne is the Demi Fiend ascending to his true potential. I wish there was a "usurp Lucifer" route in that game.

I mean, True Freedom still has Demi-fiend basically have to go through every day knowing YHVH will smite him at a moment's notice just because he didn't play into his plan with Kagatsuchi.

Every ending is kind of shit. The reason endings are just you and the others playing into YHVH's plan, True Freedom has you temporary fuck over YHVH, and TDE has you massively fuck over him and march toward a battle you my very well lose.

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