Will it pass or what?

yes
and it should be legal to sell tobacco and alcohol to kids

Probably in the US. Shit like that in the EU can easily be tied to age verification per postID for example.

>more kids get into hentai games
WE NEED THIS BILL PASSED NOW

>hurrr big brother I need you I physically cannot stop myself from letting my child enter a casino
You are correct user

But devs want to hit the T-rated sweetspot to reach the most people possible. They are less willing to use lootboxes if they have to make an M-rated game to do it.

Only actual shills and gacha addicts are against this.
Go play a real game, phoneshitters.

make a slot machine and get treated like a slot machine

>give game a M rating
>parents still buy their kids the game
>companies still sell lootboxes
>0 way of proving you're over 18 online other than doing extremely shady stuff like providing your ID card or some shit like that, would get the company in way more legal issues than its worth
wow its almost as that did absolutely nothing

>hurrr big brother I need you I physically cannot stop myself from giving my child my car keys and letting him drive around my car all day while I neglect my parental duties

>Aimed at children
Aimed at manchildren with no self control like that retard who spent 17K on final fantasy or the other one who sued the scam citizen devs and still buys more jpgs. Pretend it's for the children all you want, but it's tasteless adults with no self control who support these practices, and the government is all to happy to get a foot in the door for censorship by leveraging their inability to not buy shit games.

I wonder if gacha games will be affected. It's definitely gambling, but more often than not, there's no "box" involved in rolls, so they're not really lootboxes.

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This

This is unironically good
You really do not want kids exposed to gambling
>parental duties lmao
You cant supervise your kid 24/7, he will do it while hanging out with a friend, or with his phone even free lootboxes that do not cost any money are harmful so the
>just hide your credit card lmao
excuse is not valid
>but pokemon cards
Those are BS too but no one cares about TCGs anymore they are dead

Give me one good reason a private corporation shouldn't be able to include this in their games. By making lootboxes illegal, Americans are literally admitting they are too retarded and impulsive to avoid buying shiny boxes. They are more animal than human.

Ancaps are so hilarious when they believe their retarded drivel has any real world application.

I don't even care about protecting vulnerable people I just want to see greedy faggots get BTFO.

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Hopefully.
Lets fucking kill phone games and take out industry back.

>It's for the children
Go back to the brady campaign, boomer

isn't this from that incel gamer blog

user please, I need my waifus

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Its also for tons of adults with gambling problems.
YOOOOOOOOOOONG OUT

Nope, Americans refuse to turn on their corporate masters. It's a part of their vile culture. If the senator passes this, he will get shot.

>Give me one good reason a private corporation shouldn't be able to include this in their games.
it's not consistent with the laws already written

done, next question

>using the word waifus
You are pretty disgusting normalfag in my eyes but you know very well that you dont need gambling simulators to get anime boys that look like anime girls

Give me one good reason that i should pay to rent a copy of their games. It costs them nothing for me to copy and play it, so why should it cost anything.

Computer, replace "lootboxes" and "shiny boxes" with "meth". Heh now he looks stupid.

the white background and font is a really bad aesthetic design imo

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>abusing human mentality is okay when I do it

>waifus
>more than one waifu
Seriously kill yourself. I'm not even joking.

Probably not much. 90% of gachas are already aimed towards adults. If anything, this will just kill all non-adult gachas.

How did you get to make it look like that?

>oneangryincel literally incapable of not adding BONER CULTURE to literally anything

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>Authoritarianism is okay when I do it
Not even him. I bet you're fat.

>republican senator
Yeah i doubt the democRATS would allow it

>playing overwatch

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We wouldn't be here with a bill about to hit the Senate if the ESRB actually did it's job.
Pressure and outrage has been mounting for years now. They had plenty of opportunity to get ahead of it.
If they just started slapping M ratings on every game with random loot boxes this wouldn't be happening.
Instead they cucked out and we have to pay the price now.

They already proved this by making gambling in general illegal (lootboxes aren't really all that different) and having it heavily regulated in the instanced in which it is allowed.

Because gambling is already heavily regulated in the United States because of people you described. They won't even let you onto casino floors if there's even a small percentage chance that you're under 18.
Lootboxes and Gacha are just exploiting a loophole to sneak gambling into games and the bill is meant to plug that loophole.

i use the dark reader extension

The government is here for you, the citizen. Not the other way around. That's literally WHY america was founded, because the Citizens were for the government, not the government for the citizens.
Pick up a history book or go to /his/ you fucking mongoloid.

Excuse me for wanting games to not be unfun grindy bullshit.

lol, look at this butthurt Americans, always blaming the Gov for their own stupidity

You can just download fanart and official pics. Because it's the same fucking thing, except one you dump a shit ton of money into and the other you don't.

>They won't even let you onto casino floors if there's even a small percentage chance that you're under 18
Have you even been to the United States? I grew up in Vegas. Yeah Vegas is way more than just casinos, but my friend and I used to just walk around local casinos and hang out after school. They had arcades, bowling alleys, movie theaters, and restaurants. It was a place where we would go to try to pick up girls. Nobody tried to kick us out or any of the other kids who went there for the same stuff. We would often just hang out near gambling machines, too.

A lot of shit parents in this thread desu

Why have laws anyway. Can't you just solve everything yourself.

it wasn't anything any real game did, it is the mobile games. that mobile games are awful abusive skinner boxes has well entered the normie collective unconscious, all that's happening is they're making the (not entirely correct but far from incorrect) connection to lootboxes in real games. there have been some games (ie. Battlefront and other AAA shitshow nightmares) that have helped push this, but it's really all still back to how almost universally awful and truly heinously abusive mobile games are.

>The government should make it illegal to make games I don't like
lmao

lol, look at this ESL EU faggot, always trying to get the government to fix their problems

are they going to ban MTG as well? what about the blind boxes I'm started to see in the walmart toy section? are capsule machines too much?

We should ban parents from having kids. Since the parents can't protect their kids from buying loot boxes.

this is the actual best argument in the thread

No. The guy who's introducing it is some nutcase who thinks Google and Facebook have a bias against republicans, and without a doubt he'll bring it up in some way which will split votes.
Either that or it gets thrown into a larger bundle bill and does get passed.

>using waifu in a way other than as originally intended
>waifus
>plural
>having more than one waifu
Riajuu detected. You're ironic weeb at best.

That may be the initial reasoning, but who cares? Loot boxes are cancer, banning them is good, regardless of the reason.
The only bad part is that it'll probably be easy to bypass by making your game rated M or not technically using loot boxes like fortnite.

>he thinks big tech doesn't have a bias against conservashits
lmfao

MTG and Yugioh are screwed.
good riddance.

Where’s the argument

Why don't slotmachines not just always pay you at least 1 cent back. Then it wouldn't be gambling.

Hopefully.

Customers have the right to know exactly what they are buying.

See my post: Publishers target the T rating because it has a better chance if reaching a wider audience (see games like Fortnite, Destiny, Overwatch). Having to make an M-rated game to include lootboxes is not as appealing for a publisher.

Its fucking simple. Just teach, socialize, and snuff out bad behaviors before they become habitual without beating the shit out of them and you're pretty close to being the best parent in America.

I hope so. Fuck every single person on this board that's ever bought this kind of shit, you're all part of the reason the video game industry is swirling around in the fucking toilet right now. Fuck you.

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replace the boobies with a playing card and see what happens, it's a retarded double standard

>Facebook flat out makes money from all the shitty "news" sites uber-republicans find and click on in their ad bar
>Google is Google and already makes enough to not give a flyong fuck which side wants what

they should just pay out in the equivalent value of skins on the valve marketplace. surely that isn't gambling

Vegas is the gambling capital of world and definitely not the norm. In Wisconsin and Illinois they card everyone who looks underage and you're not allowed on the floor. Obviously there were other forms of entertainment but good luck getting near a slot machine.

this but unironically

casinos and mobile games have converged on the same shitty behavior but only one of them is being regulated

Literally put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. it will improve this world for the rest of us.

Facebook literally admitted that they kept news stories from conservative media from trending on their platform.
Have you seen the leaks of Google internal mailing lists? It's cuck central over there, no wrong think allowed.

Corporations only give a shit about making profits.

>the Yea Forumstards using kids an excuse to save their garbage vidya
Pathetic desu

Is gambling it should be treated as such

>conservative media
You mean nazi media. Conservative media like Fox are doing just fine.

if you want to see an end to lootboxes, then this bill has to pass in the u.s.

Gaming companies will then kill them off and find something else, they can't afford to abandon the u.s. as a gaming market, at least not yet (once china/india become profitable enough, they will).

The democrats will likely block this though, cause a republican introduced it.

I'm gonna say the n-word.

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>hurrr big brother I need you I physically cannot stop myself from giving my child a poor diet and letting him die before he turns forty while I neglect my parental duties.
Sorry you were abused/neglected by your parents, user.
However, shitty parenting isn't an argument for shitty business practices.
Just let Big Brother hold the invisible hand of the free market. Just a little bit.
Remember, Big Brother knows what's best for you even when you don't!

Eat shit. This is a net positive for consumers. Stop believing in meme philosophy and look at pros and cons in relation to yourself.

>Having to make an M-rated game to include lootboxes is not as appealing for a publisher.
And scamming the fuck out of their audience, doing extremely questionable false advertising, abusing several labor laws(not paying their QA teams,forcing teams to work overtime without extra pay etc), releasing unfinished products with the promise of "we'll fix it later" is appealing to the publisher?

Yes, and it will open the door to further regulation of video games, including content. This is the natural reaction to the level of mindless greed that is on display in the industry today. The ESA was created with the explicit goal of creating the appearance of self-regulation to avoid a government crackdown on games, and the ESA basically said "Fuck it" because loot box money was too good.

Now everyone is fucked. Fortunately, old vidya still exists, and is still awesome. Hope you anons bought a CRT before the boom happened.

Loot boxes should be given an AO rating honestly.

>Epic Shill detected.
Sorry, but this bill is needed to kill off Fortnite and Epic Game Store once and for all.

sadly probably not due to lobbying and bribes

all people who add "desu" at the end of the sentence should kill themselves

I completely agree desu

Are they not earning shitloads of money off of it? Then its appealing.

Are you upset desu?

I used to be a D.Va main back when I played Overwatch, but then they made her shield a toggle ability - shit was retarded

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No user that's just slippery slope fallacy. The government will save vidya :)

one of the biggest lootbox cash cows are battlefield 3, overwatch and fifa
all 3 games are rated T for Teen.
if this law would manage to get passed those games would have to be forced to remove lootboxes since they were original sold as rated t.
so ea would be forced to make fifa a m rated game somehow which would be hilarious and blizzard would be forced to release overwatch 2

>rated M
M is still 17 or over. The bill states 18+, so in order to have lootboxes, every game would need to be rated AO/Adults Only. That would instantly kill off lootboxes on PS4 and Xbox One, and Nintendo, because they refuse to allow Adults Only games on their platforms. The only places lootboxes would still exist would be Steam, since Epic said they will not allow adult content on their platform.

facebook literally hired the daily caller to fact-check their website

>Amerimutt
>Greedy beyond the point of jew-ism
>Unbelievably stupid
Wow, no surprises here.

They are because the consequences don't cost them anything

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You think they give a fuck that you worked for free and want pay

Anyone who plays a real game isn't affected by lootboxes.

What does any of that have to do with lootboxes?

I don't have kids.
I want other people's kids to stop doing this shit because it affects me too and ruins games.
I can't break into their houses and beat the shit out of them so I want the government to do it.
If it stayed in mobile shit I wouldn't care but this eldritch virus is starting to creep into real games and fuck that.

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>implying kids don't play games outside of their demographic
Hown.ru

>18+
In that case, this bill would be deadly to lootboxes in the US. Damn.

I play smite a lot and the loot boxes are a real thing there . i wish you could just buy the skin you want instead of having to gamble your money.

why is tracer's ass next to a lootbox, even though the article doesn't mention it?

yes

Its moreso enforcing laws already in place.

Yeah i need sauce on that pic

>will amount to nothing
>fed gov't can bend over any USA-based AAA company

topkek
overwatch will get fucking obliterated and so will every other game you can buy loot boxes in if they don't disable it for the region in question (like they already did for Belgium which was enacted almost immediately after the law passed)

this is a law that actually will pass and actually will be enforced
I can't wait to drink the fucking tears, lootboxes are cancer

That was less than a month ago, the incident I was talking about is from last year.
Also, Facebook's fact checking is ran by Poynter which ironically considers Daily Caller uncredible, yet for some reason approved their fact checking arm.

Exactly

Not in this case. This is separate from gambling laws, and a lot of it isn't just relegated to loot boxes. That's a good thing though, the design of games today has taken a very dark turn and it should be regulated because the industry has proven that it cannot regulate itself (nor can its customer base).

You do realize that desu stands for desu?

-t. Fed
We need the government to step in and tell us what kind of entertainment is okay. Think of the children!

The law ain't going to do shit for anything outside FIFA and mobile.
By the time it passes and is enacted, AAA will have run out of synonyms for lootboxes, crashed the industry around them completely, and will have moved on to their next scam.

you need a licences to insult others mohammed

It is gambling.
Honestly, just the ESRB giving games with paid lootboxes an AO rating would be enough.

This guy gets it. We need more porn and gore for the children.

>>and will have moved on to their next scam
>preventing shit like lootboxes happening ever again is a bad thing

>crashed the industry around them completely
lol no

is a newfag, but are faggots for defending typing out t.b.h., knowing the result.

Mm.
I have never bought a lootbox, yet, games I would have otherwise wanted to play have been ruined by them with no sign of stopping.
I don't have kids, so none of them are spending my money on lootboxes.
Yet lootboxes are still infecting everything I love.
Capitalism has failed me.
Time for government intervention.

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there is nothing wrong with raping tencent, ea, and activision as hard as humanly possible

this
why are americans always this retarded?

quality of games are going down because all you need are cosmetics hidden behind lootboxes to make mad cash.

unironically this

tbqh i don't see a problem

I just type out desu to be ironic desu

>why are americans always this retarded?
belgium banned it first and other EU member states are already moving to do the same you dumb fuck

No use arguing, stupid people will be for it or against it saying you cant prevent kids from getting credit cards or can’t watch your kid 24/6 and be in favor of more government control because people are stupid and make up whatever excuse they can with an idiotic analogy.

>games

Said the Eurocuck as he passed article 13, and made it a crime to wrongthink and offend someone online.

Not really. The difference between CCGs and lootboxes is that you can trade or even sell cards that you get, both of which you cant do with things you find in a lootbox.

But you're already not allowed to purchases lootboxes if you're under the age of 18.

If this passes, duel links is fucked.
Its the most lootbox infested game ever.

desu is fun desu senpai
does senpai still changes to senpai?

AO-rated games are banned from most stores in USA.

>It is gambling.
I don't disagree, however this is not a law related to gambling, at all. I work in a related field, and this is not like gambling laws.

Part of my argument in favor of laws like this (though not just restricted to minors) is that these people are selling loot boxes to people who may very well be recovering gambling addicts and could send them back into a spiral. There is a reason that in nearly every place in the U.S. that gambling is legal the casinos have to check a self-exclusion list to make sure that their customers aren't recovering gambling addicts.

>be retarded american
>consume nothing but mcdonalds cheese burgers
>cholesterol clogging every blood vessel
>cholesterol finally clogs up the vessels going towards the brain
>just give my kid my credit card because I was too retarded to use a condom
>kid buys fortnite skins and fortnite pass
>go into debt because I couldn't tell my kid no
>continue stuffing my fat face with burgers
>die of a heart attack as my house is foreclosed due to fortnite debt
>family sues fortnite and a law is made in my name

don't forget the british porn license

>"oi m8 u av a loisense to look at that there cuck porno?"

yes it still does

>None of the consoles allows 18+ games
Gee i wonder.

You know they’ll just say those games are aimed at the over-18 crowd, and if the ban goes as far as banning them from every game not rated M/AO or the regional equivalent, the characters will swear and bleed more until it is M-rated.
This shit does nothing to solve the problem of microtransactions in full-price games, which is the real problem with shit like overwatch’s lootboxes

Difference with duel links is that you are guaranteed to get card in pack sooner or later. In other games, there's no telling

Ding ding user. You found the loophole. Overwatch is a bad example of lootboxes being gambling because although it's rng, you always get SOMETHING for them, even if that something is a piece of shit (the content value/worth is another issue). They could have a case if said lootbox has a chance to give nothing in which case it is more true to actual gambling.

I'm pretty sure those a real things though, not pixels you don't actually own anyway.

This fight started in Belgium you faggot.
This isn't a strictly American thing.

the only way they're going to be able to keep kids out of games is if they make the games themselves full-on pornographic

american parents will buy anything violent for their kids but if there's a nipple all hell breaks loose

digital distribution
u wat m8? how is shit like rdr or god of war on consoles then?

>full-price games, which is the real problem with shit like overwatch’s lootboxes
But user, it's just cosmetic. You don't need it

I heard that Sony and MS don't like AO stuff on their systems

Belgium is a bureaucratic hellhole nobody should strive to emulate.

Bullshit excuse. If casinos thought that they could side-step regulations like that, they would give you a booby prize every time you played one of their games.

No, their digital versions are fucked.
There is no actual difference between a lootbox and a card pack in a video game.
Duel Links especially will get the dick from if this passes.

Do you honestly think that a law passed by those illiterate fucks will be nuanced in anyway?
No, its a nuclear option and it will take a bunch of shit down with it.

you heard it or you know it?

>MUH VIDYA
Maybe it's time to grow up.

There's no such thing.
18+ is basically a rating for porn games. GTA San Andreas got pulled because someone made a sex mod of unused assets they found in the game and got it an Ao rating and pulled from shelves. This was after it was pretty much the hottest fucking game out there.
So basically to get your lootboxes they'd need to create porn chambers of the game and kill all physical sales outright and hope most the parents never realize that there's porn in the game specifically so they trick children and gambling addicts into wasting their money.
>Overwatch just makes all the SFM canon
Well that fixes their story problem.

Not having access to the console market, physical distribution, and even some PC digital stores, is a death sentence for a publisher’s lootbox ambitions. Having a limited release is not conducive to selling lootboxes.

>big brother
I think you mean "onii-chan".

Just pay a few streamers and content creators to shill your product and you have 80% of gamers. Who cares about tv and bus stop ads anymore.

I only know that I know nothing.

Why'd angrycuck cross out the butt?

They don't allow it on their platforms, that guy is a retard for thinking they can just do it digitally.

Almost as if US and EU ratings are different.

Nowhere but steam sells A rated games.
Not even amazon, and they sell dildos and fleshlights.

If something like this passed. Developers are just going to introduce actual gambling into their games and write a warning label or something when you start the game.

Oh please if you were raised in this day you'd get that information easily

Who knows. You have to be an idiot to spend real currency on loot boxes though, especially in a game like Overwatch.

>actual gambling
So they are going to sell the chance to maybe sometimes get something we want? Maybe they are going to do it by having us buy "boxes" of stuff with randomized loot.

How in the fucking fuck does not spending money on this shit unfuck that games are designed purely around getting a few addicts to pay them all of the money?

>kills lootboxes
>kills mobile gaming
>forces mtga to either allow trading or physical redemption
if they arent going to legalize online sports betting a poker again ill take this as an alternative desu

Yes.
But the world is filled with nothing but idiots and they ruin games for the non-idiots.
I have never spent money on a lootbox yet I'm still fucked over.
I want something done about it, especially since I don't participate in it and still feel the effects of Whales who do.

>be europoor
>constantly think about america
>obsessed with america
>compulsively shitpost about america everywhere you go

But unless they get stores to cooperate with them, they can’t sell thise games due to the AO rating.

God I want to fuck Tracer so badly.

I want to get inside her loot box

>amerimutt thinks the only other ""country"" in the world is the EU
There is a reason why you people are the laughing stock of the entire planet

Back in my day you got cosmetics from accomplishing shit

It's illegal for kids to gamble, this is just upholding the law.

Have lootboxes been defined as gambling in the US?
>but europe
America isn't Europe.

>be pixel salesman with infinite pixels
>have to be regulated because you went maximum kike and tried to sell a chance for pixels

>implying 3rd worlders would be on the internet
haha, good one.

it would be used as an excuse to being AAA titles to $70 but it would be worth it
the effects on the mobile market are more interesting, theres a real possibility that it makes gacha extremely popular in the west due to a lack of alternatives which im not sure how to feel about

Guys, I used to be against loot boxes, but I bought one to see what the fuss was about and now I'm not so sure anymore. Please help, bros.

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>hur dur goyim just let faggot devs pollute the market with garbage and water down your options because muh free market
fuck off kike, i will continually fight for my interests at the cost of the dumb niggers that play overbotch and other garbage

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>Fox
I too enjoy government owned media choice #5

Jimquisition was right all along

this will kill that already ded game.

If your interests are AAA trash and shovelware with lootboxes then you should immediately leave Yea Forums and commit traffic wrestle

Imagine selling random stories like books, where you don't know what to expect, and getting sued for doing that.

on the contrary. I imagine them being forced to remove gambling might bring more people back to the game.

Jesus christ grow a fucking backbone, these people are exploiting actual game progression systems to force more money out of the consumer, stop defending shitty game design.

The market will find a way to keep this going if it's lucrative, but we will all pay for it in the end. Imagine something like a slot machine mini game but you need to buy virtual coins to play, there, i just created a replacement for lootboxes with random content.

Should we ban breakfast cereal? Kids only want it for the toy inside, and that is random. I bought $70 worth of Froot Loops to get a Donatello, but ended up with a dozen Michelangelos.

Don't tell me you actually believe this
Please

>Food analogy
>Defending lootboxes
Why

This isn't about retards who can't show basic self-restraint, this is about stopping devs who lock half the fucking content behind lootbox gatcha bullshit. I hope this fucking passes, their is no reason why any game should have a mechanic where you pay for a CHANCE to get what you want.

Ban these, it's literally gambling for kids.

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Beyond whatever you may think that this is big brother shit, loot boxes are a terrible practice and should be banned by the sole reason they are loot boxes.
Fuck Overwatch for ever making this shit popular.

this is literally how companies RIGHT NOW get around the lootbox ban
in places where lootboxes need to broadcast loot percentages, lootboxes are "bonuses" purchased as part of currency packages.

I hope so.

Fuck lootboxes.

Brazilian here, our goverment banned mc donalds toys because of this and guess what, it just means that everyone that buys a mc kid will pay for the toy even if you don't ask for the toy.

i assume the ban would include any RMT for a virtual currency

>hurr durr we need to put government restrictions on a monetizing style just because i don't personally like it
literally play any game that doesn't have lootboxes if they actually impact the game that much
or do you suffer from jim sterling syndrome where you are an addict to this dumb shit and physically need the government to come in and protect you from being a retard

>Give me one good reason a private corporation shouldn't be able to include this in their games.
Give me one good reason I should pay Nissan extra money for my new car to have windows.

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sorry if you don't like them but gambling laws already exist

I mean sure. Ban these too. Why are you guys so dead set on rip offs.

That's a poor analogy. A better one would be the cup holder or radio.

Do you guys also need to pay them to deliver the car, to the dealer?

Fox is centrist media dumbass

Being left of nazis doesn't make you not right wing.

Why is the image trying to imply that the senator is banning sexy butts?

>literally play any game that doesn't have lootboxes if they actually impact the game that much
Where the fuck does this passive attitude regarding predatory business practices come from

It effects everyone retard. These corporations will fill the games YOU enjoy with lootboxes as well. Now see what your shitty 'stop playing them' argument gets you.

This doesn't benefit you, stop defending it.

Know why Battlefront 2, Battlefield V, Artifact, and MK11 failed? Because the market works and bad games with shit microtransactions systems are punished. You don't need the government to step in to tell you what to do if you're not retarded.

Except in games they literally gimp core features unless you pay more. Not just 'cupholders'

>just ignore it and it'll go away it's not even that big of a deal
I don't think you fully understand just how poor people's impulse control really is. People fall for the gambler's fallacy WAY too easily and there are plenty of people who blow all of their money on lottery tickets. You know why F2P mobile games like FGO are so successful? It's cause they make shit tons of money from people who are desperate to get that one png of their waifu. "Just don't buy it" doesn't work in this situation. Sure, you can just ignore the game. But the paypigs who do buy the game will more than make up for the loss of revenue. It'd be like if there was an election and you decide not to vote for someone you didn't like but the opposing team has an unlimited number of votes for that person.

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It's gambling. And as much as I loathe outraged moral guardians and the sticks up their collective asses, I will not be sorry to see lootboxes get blasted.

Like?

You believe children should gamble?

Based libertarian bro. Legalize all drugs too

Not him but I already refuse to buy games that have lootboxes or microtransactions in there games that aren't F2P or at least have a f2p option but that doesn't stop the idiota from buying those games thus it gets popular and infects other games even Devil may cry 5 has microtransactions in it and MK which used to be all about having crazy rewards for the playing the game and playing it only no stupid money costing shortcuts that always going to be encouraged by the publishers by making the game a grindfest

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It fucking better

Children have been gambling for decades, if you'd ever been to an arcade you'd know this.

Fox is right wing it has been for years right wing is not bad though neither is left wing when they don't have there heads up there ass of course

It's just the playful joke since Overwatch is accused of popularizing lootboxes and the Tracer butt controversy that also happened not shortly after

I haven't purchased a AAA game in years. The whole industry is fucked and I'm waiting for the day when it goes belly up.
Regulations aren't going to stop them or their games from being shitty, they'll just find other ways to be shitty. The only way to clean up the shit on the floor is to wipe it out and start from scratch. Stop supporting these people.

>the poor gamblers!
They're grown adults.
>the poor children!
grown adults are responsible for them, as it is the grown adults money at stake.

>but the whales support them and give them most of their revanue!1!1
An online game can't survive with whales as the only userbase. Even if they did, the people who aren't whales become a market of their own, and games will be made for a market of everyone who isn't a mega-spending F2P hound retard.

In Halo 5 you literally can't unlock armor, vehicles or weapons without req packs and are much weaker than other players in Warzone. It also take hours of playtime just to unlock low level items.

In Overwatch the currency system doesn't work at all. It is impossible to get a lootbox unless you level up (which can take hours) because the game does not reward the player currency via gameplay to buy them.

Battlefield failed cuz it got too woke, Artifact failed cuz slow updates, MK has failed but God I wish it did
Other games with micros and lootboxes are still doing fine though like Ass Creed Devil may cry 5 Call of duty and more aaa shit

So were trading cards and they never got banned despite attempts to get them banned

I hope so.

I hope Hasbro makes Overwatch-themed Nerf Pussies

The guy you posted in your pic got married and had children with a good looking girl.

Can req packs be earned through gameplay or can you only buy them?
Overwatch sounds fucked but it's still obtainable through a reasonable amount of gameplay and IIRC it's all cosmetic and provides no gameplay advantages.

Maybe don't play shit games like Halo 5 or Overwatch.

>Regulations aren't going to stop them or their games from being shitty, they'll just find other ways to be shitty.
>Ignore the problem
Please, please tell me you are capable of rational adult reasoning and don't view this as a viable mindset to have in any area of life.

>The only way to clean up the shit on the floor is to wipe it out and start from scratch. Stop supporting these people.
>No u

Kill yourself.

yes, yes, excellent point

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I don't really have any sympathy. Just don't buy them. Works on my machine.

Trading cards are a physical good with a resell value that, among popular series, tends to increase slowly over time. It ain't exactly the same thing.

No user, capitalism failed me and I want the government to punish the evil corporations. The CONSUMER is too stupid to make his own decisions.

>Maybe don't play shit games like Halo 5 or Overwatch.
That doesn't make the problem go away you fucking retard. Millions of other people are buying them.

Do you believe children should own property?

>dude it's not gambling because you can make money off of it
Literally retarded response

I thought just by the picture in the article it was about a room that was modeled on Tracers ass.

>Millions of other people are buying them
Because they WANT TO. That's the entire reason why this exists in the first place: people want them. The system is literally working as intended.
You're just pissy because people want something you don't so you want to ban it outright. Vote with your wallet, it works.

>just ignore the problem and it'll go away

NO THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO INTERVENE BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T VOTING THE WAY I WANT. IT WAS HER TURN.

this is the only way to get lootbox and p2w shit banned and im all for it

It should and I hope it does.

>Vote with your wallet, it works.
this would work if there werent 10000x more retarded people than there are rational people who get outvoted every time

The problem is people are spending money on games and items you don't like, and autists are throwing a hissy fit and demanding the government step in to create laws about what content can be in video games.
There's a lot of shitty games with business practices I don't like out there. I just don't play them and stick to actual fun games.

>the system that is actively working to make everything worse and more retarded because retards want it is good because it's working as intended

I want to reply too

>kid under 18
Inb4 they turn all the game for +18 audience

>ban lootboxes
>60% of content in new games becomes paywalled

Not if all the money that these paradigms have made for the investors has anything to say about it.

And it's got a LOT to say about it. All "NO" btw.

Not him. And those people are casual bastards who don't know what good for gaming and it doesn't help that every main stream gaming outlet doesn't talk about how bad lootboxes are even as a concept most real gamers hate lootboxes
They bring nothing good to the table

If they ban lootboxes what do you think they're going to do to replace them? You think they're just going to let all that money go? I think the evil you know is better than the evil you don't.

This would work if there weren't government subsidised loans
>dude my new ip failed
>just take some money bro, you employ lots of my Nationality so i need your company healthy

Man I wish Yea Forums fought for their own rights as hard as they do for corporate interests.

Only based posts itt
Who enforces your these "rights"?

>hurrr big brother I need you I physically cannot stop myself from fucking and having children, give me money for them while blaming the system for uppression

>The government should dictate what is and isn't good for video games
Move to China, they're doing exactly that.

>The government saying what games are legal and illegal to make is fighting for your rights
Literal doublespeak

>He thinks this bill will ban lootboxes
This bill won't ban lootboxes though.
They're gambling and only adults should be able to gamble so the games will be A rated.
The fact that no one sells A rated games is another function of capitalism. No one wants to be the one associated with them so they don't sell them, except Steam.
If people, as you claim, actually like and want lootboxes that much the stores will realize they can sell A rated games for profit to those people.
But no, that won't happen cause people don't actively want lootboxes, lootboxes will die the moment they are A only..

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This is nothing but a good thing, those who think otherwise can just off themselves for not understanding how this shitty microtransaction infested industry has given us literally NOTHING of value.

Prove me wrong.

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Wow fuck libtards. Why are we letting them have so much power? We want a small, limited government.
Fuck this gay tranny shit.

>industry shills on full damage control for their cancerous practice

>Getting fucked over is bad but trying not to get fucked over could be even worse. So why try to change how things are?

>if we ban lootboxes, good games will be made
That's not how that works, retards.

>people don't have the right to not be psychologically manipulated by teams of experts that know exactly how to essentially hotwire your brain with well-studied and proven brainwashing techniques

The system isn't making everything worse, it's a byproduct of what made it worse to begin with.
Gaming is no longer a niche form of entertainment, it's now larger than Hollywood in value. It has mass public appeal, and the unfortunate truth is that most people who play games today don't have time to dedicate to them but do have money to speed up the process. So the system is created to cater to them.

Gaming is dead and is never coming back. It's become an industry, it exists to make money as cheaply and efficiently as possible. Support indie devs that make good non-lootbox or microtransaction filled games and don't buy the AAA games.

The only thing they can do is make the shit you would normally get in a box available for direct buying and jack up the price.

uh... yeah i believe thats what i said
you really want to take that gamble and end up with something worse? like i said they're not just going to give up on all that money theyre making, lootboxes are dogshit but you can avoid them at least if you really want to.

Games where you can fuck hookers and torture people somehow aren't considered adult in Burgerland. Walmart has no problem selling you a game where you can hogtie a woman and feed her to an alligator, as long as you're 17.

>I'm not a manchild with no self control, I was brainwashed!
The only game with this trash I've ever played is TF2. I started playing a decade ago when I was 12 and somehow never felt the urge to spend any money on a lootbox. Rethink your life if you're that weak willed.

>typing out t.b.h.
No, I unironically type desu

>personal responsibility doesn't exist
It's ok to say you want to ban lootboxes, but for the love of god stop being a colossal, sanctimonious faggot. You don't care about the people you're referring to.

B-but i want to play those cool capcom and ea games man!

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>can't even use Yea Forums magic to bypass the filter
It's quite embarrassing t󠛡b󠛡h

They aren't being prevented from making them in this bill.
They just have to make them for adults since its gambling.

Those are rated M. 17+
Literally no store but steam sells A rated games.
Having to be 18 to play a game with gambling in it would mean it would be rated A.

Based Big daddy GOP

Classic derailment by trying to shift the focus on "mah women or minorities"

Your time is up shill, just hang yourself or get a real job.

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I don't buy lootboxes, that doesn't preclude me from acknowledging the existence of brainwashing. You're a literal cuck shill if you don't believe the fucking jews in the CIA don't have highly advanced techniques to manipulate the human mind that can bypass all but the absolute strongest wills.

>Bill passes.
>Ushers in a new age of games aimed at a more mature audience to get around it.

>The government should make it illegal to make games I don't like
Someone finally gets it!

>ESRB does absolutely nothing to regulate lootboxes as gambling
>wooow why is the guvermint steppin on mah snake

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Oh, you were just trolling.

>I'm too weak to resist basic marketing and you're a buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword if you disagree
Sick mental illness brosephine
At least you're up front about it and not skreeing about how it's for the children. In an ideal world, anyone who makes anything besides E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy expansions would be beaten to death.

If you admit that dreams exist you must admit that there are parts of the brain out of your conscious control. If you think the goddamn jews haven't figured out ways to target and manipulate these parts of your brain you will one day find yourself entirely cucked.

The bill will get tossed out in court tbhfamalam. The US doesn't do government oversight of entertainment that way. It's handed off to private companies to deal with.

Ok, you can stop now. Your act isn't funny.

Vegas is always watching. My dad demonstrated this to me when I was young child. He went to a slot machine and like 30s after sitting down, casino staff came and told him he can't use the slots since I was there.

someone should have stepped in long ago and stopped the cancerous ToS practices we see.
start making people separately agree to each subsection that could affect ganeplay, BEFORE they pay for the game

this "you got banned because you violated our homebrewed ToS" shit is absurd lately

>At least you're up front
I'm memeing with that response, but it has a ring of truth. There are bad practices in games and I will react to remove them. It's not about some autistic principles because the world doesn't run on principles. It's about the fact that lootboxes aren't proper gameplay and they ruin games. If they technically fall under gambling laws, sure, use them to ban it. Lootboxes are shit and I vote to take them out of vidya. It's that simple.

You can sell a card from a game to anyone in anyway you want. You don't sell casino chips or used scratch offs. Try thinking it through next time.

Never heard of propaganda? Why do you think they would do that shit if they didn't have real evidence that it worked? Yeah you can argue it only works on the weak willed, but that shit will eventually affect everybody indirectly if all the weak willed people fall for it.

>not wanting this because then it forces devs to make actual content and not boneless gambling skinner boxes

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The ESRB is a voluntary group that has no actual power. It is run by the publishing companies. Same shit as the MPAA, really.

> people actually shilling for corporations in here

You can't make this shit up, like how much do you get paid to sit here and defend these practices?

I'm anti-censorship, sorry

Not trying to be funny, just using Jews as shorthand for people in power, corporations, governments, etc.

>Walmart and Amazon forced to allow A games on their stores by big publishers who refuse to give up the cash cow
>Adult games of actual quality slip through the cracks as a golden age is ushered in as adult games can actually make money thus providing an actual incentive to make them
>Conservative christians and social justice types have a heart attack and die at this horrific future that has been created
Hurry up and pass the bill.

A republican is doing it so it must be based and I'll support it blindly.

>yes daddy government control my media please!

Government would have known anything about this being a problem if thousands of people would have caused uproar and called the government to do there job which is make rules that benefit people fairly at least what they try to do sometimes they go to far like the policy on lewd content on the Internet and when they go to far we complain then too that's how this shit works

Speak english

>voluntary group that has no actual power. It is run by the publishing companies. Same shit as the MPAA
Yeah try getting your movie in a theater without an MPAA rating. Try finding a retailer or console manufacturer who will sell your game without an ESRB rating. These corporate agencies hold tremendous power but all of that power is meaningless unless they're compelled to act.

They aren't being censored.
Its not censorship to be forced to not sell alcohol, drugs, or guns to kids.
Its not censorship when in vegas you have to be an adult to gamble.
And its not censorship to require a game to be rated A if they want gambling since you don't want kids doing it.

Fucking based why are republican and right wing people so based and support the common people while leftie and libs are corporation cocksuckers?

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If every movie theater decided not to care, the MPAA would cease to exist, just like the comics code authority did when people finally got sick of them.

These agencies have no power because they legally cannot prevent anything.

Some next level irony posting.

>dude Russian monarchy sucks, lets kill them, what could possibly go wrong?

Reminder that the bill is also against Pay To Win garbage.

Based

Imagine if they just straight up banned lootboxes? what a glorious reality that would be

What do the democrats think?

This cannot pass without them.

If everyone also stopped caring money would lose all value too.
If everyone did X, Y thing wouldn't happen is a fucking pointless statement.

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>Legalize all drugs too
Why NOT legalize all drugs?

Degeneracy

Kids use dad's credit card without asking all the time

But I agree. Parents should definitely stop letting their kids play (((Western games)))

>if every movie theater makes the conscious decision at the same exact time to ignore the MPAA at the behest of their customers this somehow removes the regulatory power the MPAA has
How many time do I have to smash my head with a hammer to start thinking like this?

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Hopefully not. I love to 1 shot poorfags with my debit card. That's like the only reason I even still play vidya.

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dems probably support lootboxes because they are all on the big companies pay check.

Why should the government have a say on what harm you can legally inflict on yourself? They should keep it away from children and make sure the people who use it are making informed decisions but there's no reason to make the nation a padded cell with no sharp corners.

Not really, you probably don't understand how usiness on a large scale work, they have a set amount they need to generate regardless of the means necessary to acquire them. Low effort crap like lootboxes were a godsend, but if they can't return the investment like that, they'll find any way possible to make it, subscriptions, stream services, early access, any kind of mandatory DLC or map pack or whatever, break down the product as much as possible to make it impossible to play unless you spend the amount they expect you to pay.

The issue was free games compensating their business model with a casino, making them snowball super easy, delivering a semi decent product and then filling it with addictive miscrotransactions. They'll just get more and more cancer every time and people will keep flooding them because there's no alternative for them in the f2p market.

They needed to tone it down, but by removing it entirely they're going to fuck gamers even more when the time comes to make the proper adjustments. Remember buyign characters in LoL by grinding for a week? or pay $9.99, maybe they'll just require a month of grind now, so you're forced to spend the $9.99 unless you're 100% neet or using a farming bot.

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Yes.
I also think children should be forced into coal mines at 4.
Fucking cheap skate parasites living off their parent's wealth.
If they're old enough to breath they're old enough to be treated like anyone else.
Let them do anything they want.

Unironically if a bill was presented to censor left wing ideas or "sjw" stuff in media, Yea Forums would throw a party.

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I'm all for legalizing crack and cocaine, but marijuana needs to stay illegal because fuck stoners. They're the worst.

>(((Western games)))
Japan is the one making Gacha games, predominantly.

>They should keep it away from children
That's all this bill does though.
You have to have the A rated symbol on your game if you want to have gambling in your game. A is 18+.
Keeping it away from children.

Government has a job to protect society and the family unit. Rampant degeneracy destroys this and ruins everything. You don't have the right to destroy society.

My opinion: I don't think it's fair to allow a few bad games to influence the permanent removal of a particular game feature just because it got popular

Do...do you think republicans aren't, user?

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>stoners are bad but crackheads are ok

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Its not being banned you muppet.
Its being kept to 18+ only so kids don't gamble.

If no one cared there'd be no laws at all since no one cared to enforce them. The comics code was invasive and stupid (and actively set up by DC to fuck the competition in places) so as soon as they had a good excuse they ignored it, and the anti-drug Spiderman comic was just the excuse they needed. Meanwhile organizations like the ESRB don't inhibit anything other than keeping porn in porn shops.

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Nah will go back to shitty dlc practices like day dlc or Dead or alive shit

Justify keeping tobacco and alcohol legal in your psycho nanny state version of America.

The government has a job to protect us but not from ourselves.

>Literally retarded response
Literally retarded response

The ESRB literally had their chance to make things right and regulate this shit. They were obviously paid off and said they found nothing wrong with their own "investigation" and this is where we are at. It's time the industry get's a fucking ass whooping. They've been treating "consumers" like shit for far too long.

I literally said that

just as long as this shit doesn't pass before I have the chance to whale for my wife, we'll be fine

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Dunno man, if the bill was to remove any politic bullshit, left or right, then I'd be glad. Real life politics should had never been in video games. I just wanna play vidya in peace without everything sparking drama because it doesn't cater to one side's views, is that too much to ask for?

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>but not from ourselves
Kill yourself.

I’m unironically hyped for the ban.

Thankfully said bill would be ruled unconstitutional within an hour.

Why would you not want developers going back to relying on making good games to make money instead of doing some get rich quickly scheme with lootboxes, I hope this law passes

Fuck off nigger

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The ESRB is a voluntary group.

Because every single year some whiner will use the bill to justify banning more of what they don't like until the US becomes China.

Great Idea. It's gambling for kids.

Sadly all this will do is force devs to ask if you're 18 then ban you if you're not after you spend all your mamas money on a string bikini for your anime waifu in chink MMO 3000

Wait, are actual normal people actually SJWs? They hate racists, Nazis and radical feminists and tranny pushers.

The only completely based opinion in this whole thread.
I don’t even give a shit about kids either enjoy losing your whale money niggers

>actually still using this cringe fucking strawman
Holy shit, man

How does that discredit anything. 99.99% of the gaming industry uses the ESRB. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft will not allow your game on their platform without their rating. The ESRB failed to act and the government must step in in its place.

Is there a dem co-sponsor? If not, good luck pushing this through the dem controlled house when you're a republican.

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They're not going to all of a sudden make good games if lootboxes are banned.

What is it with all the overly sensitive No Step on Snek fags acting like this is an outright ban on lootboxes when its just the same "you have to be an adult to do thing" regulations we have always had since the dawn of the US and creation of that flag of theirs?

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>Who enforces your these "rights"?

The people and the government. And the people should take it upon themselves to get their government to enforce against predatory business tactics.

A voluntary group that is mandatory in order to sell games. And don't give me shit about steam. Consoles are the biggest market for video games. It's why so many developers/publishers sell out and dumb down/downgrade their games to put them on consoles.

hell yeah let's save this industry

>>"oi m8 u av a loisense to look at that there cuck porno?"
Wait, the porn ban got through?
Holy shit, I at least thought eurofags would've had enough self respect to vote that down.
I'm not even shitposting, you guys need to have a revolution or something.

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>Cosmetic microtransactions go away
>Games start selling the updates as DLCs
>Free2Play games just stop existing or go full pay2win instead of selling cosmetic shit in lootboxes
Bravo. How stupid do you have to be to support this?

Fuck yeah
Fuck off SJWs

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Steam doesn't give a shit if you have an ESRB rating. The government legally cannot regulate games due to the 1st amendment.

i would unironically take dlc spam over fucking skinner boxes
because dlc is harder to sell than OOH SHINY NEW BIKINI SKIN BUY BUY BUY

They're just super shills paid to spout horrible opinions.
No decent human being would ever be in favor of manipulating children.

Where in the bill does it mention anything about ghosts, skeletons or whatever the fuck people don't like? It will be clearly stated it's to prevent gambling in games towards kids under 18.

>developers and publishers aren't trying to make good games anymore just ones that sell loot boxes
>a lawmaker wants to ban this
>some of you are against it

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>Mandatory
It's not, console-pleb. Also, the comics code authority was also required....until it wasn't. No legal repercussions would happen if said companies decided to say fuck the ESRB. They have no actual authority.

You're right, but nobody likes loot boxes.
What we need to neuter the parents and draft the children to fight overseas, that way the children will fight and rape the locales over there and US businesses can sell loot boxes freely to those retards instead of our retards. Tax revenue, GDP growth, and a brainlet cure.

As we all know bills are never used as justification to pass more restrictions once the government gets its foot in the door.

To do that they would need to either legally recognize ESRB ratings as legally valid or create their own rating system. There is currently no legal classification for what constitutes a 'game for kids'

i hope it will
it's pretty much gambling and it exploits kids

too bad both lefties and righties hate war now.

>censoring bad or destructive ideas
Thank God you weren't one of the founding fathers. Freedom of speech is good because it lets idiots show how stupid they are, if you limit that you deserve to be drawn and quartered.

>Bill to prohibit loot boxes

Why not make the bill to ban loot boxes? We want loot boxes to die.

This but unnironically

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>he says even though one of the founding fathers got a bill passed making it a crime to make fun of him and jailed numerous people

>saying "you're against it" instead of actually arguing the points head on
Pussy.

Better instant AO rating
Places like GameStop and Walmart refuse to carry AO games
Console makers would either A. Let pornographic games on their systems or B. Outright remove games with loot boxes
It’s the game version of ending up on the sex offender list

>>Free2Play games just stop
user.
Free2play games don't have to have lootboxes to make money.
I can think of countless mmos that STILL exist without lootboxes and have cosmetic shit you can straight up buy instead of gamble for.

Based commie

Probably wouldn't pass constitutional muster.

The government does not have the authority to demand ESRB rate games AO, nor to do so themselves. You ever wonder why EVERY ONE of these "ratings" boards are not government handled?

Everybody loves a good war

Gambling halls still exists despite the fact you always lose in the end.
Our brains are shitty at math

M rating is 17+
This bill won't make them M.
This bill is for 18+
AO

>Free2play games don't have to have lootboxes to make money.
Yeah, they can just sell expensive DLCs or barely make any updates because why the fuck make updates when the game doesn't make money anyway

>saying "you're against it" instead of actually arguing the points head on
>Pussy.
>doesn't mention any points

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Righties are super anti-interventionist now and the far lefties are as well because 1. AMERICA BAD 2. "muh South America"

Wait, so you don't even know where to find the points in the thread but you made that post anyways? What a retard.

The government can't set ratings. Violates the constitution.

It's the /pol/ part of Yea Forums. Those fuckers will be against anything if they think the "ess jey dablyuu" are for it.

>aimed at kids
That's the key part. You can make an M rated game with as many lootboxes as you want, but stop trying to market this stuff to kids.

>Steam doesn't give a shit if you have an ESRB rating
Way to completely ignore consoles to try and make your bad argument look better.
>The government legally cannot regulate games due to the 1st amendment
I'll try to make this easy for you to follow. The government can regulate gambling. Gambling is for adults only. Lootboxes are gambling. If a law is passed recognizing them as such the ESRB will then have no choice but to give all games containing them an AO rating. The government need not take any further action.

I hope so.
Fuck lootboxes
Fuck kikes
and Fuck the wretched corporate dicklickers ITT

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Thank God you weren't James Madison*

Happy now?

>barely make any updates
AQW literally has weekly updates since its inception and doesn't use lootboxes.

No I wouldn't I perfectly with there content having the right to exist legaly now whether I want it forced into my games and stories like Nu marvel Mortal Kombat and Battlefield hell no.
Cuz if I don't defind there existence than I can't complain when Snoy censors Senran kagura

Good, next ban Pokemon cards.

>Yea Forums is full of fucking commies
twitter is where you fucks belong

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>league of legends dies
please pass

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No it doesn't.
Literally exists with alcohol, guns, and drugs and irl gambling.
You have to 18, or 21, to do them.
It doesn't violate shit or if it does they already don't care.

BASED BASED BASED

But when Belgium does it, it's because they're enlightened European intellectuals?

fuck off kike.

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Updates for a game like this are piss easy to make compared to Overwatch update. Overwatch would just sell DLCs instead of making free updates if cosmetic lootboxes didn't exist.

Why didn't they do it themselves in 93 then? They let the industry self-regulate with the ESRB and obviously with this debacle they failed to do so. Now they have to step in.

I just wanted to point out muh free speech couldn't last even 15 years before someone shat on it

sure, remove lootboxes and microtransactions, and how are they going to make that money back now? games are just going to get worse now.

Neither alcohol, guns, drugs, or gambling are content produced with art. But hey, enjoy trying. I look forward to the court literally tossing it out.

The government can't ban art.

So I'm guessing any game with loot boxes would be rated MA, regardless of other content? So a Mario gacha = insta MA.

or would a Mario gacha even be allowed?

BAN GAMBLING FOR ADULTS TOO

Because they would lose in court on 1st amendment grounds, and will now. Not that it will pass in a dead locked house and senate.

Oh, it would also be painfully easy for the publishers to loophole if the language mentions specific ratings or the ESRB.

This bill doesn't ban lootboxes you fucking brainlet.

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Republicans are the most pro-business party, and they're the ones passing it.

I always forget how many retards there are on Yea Forums until these threads pop up and I remember how many people need the government to wipe their asses for them.

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AO
MA is 17+

>how are they going to make that money back now
Quite possibly the most effective thing megacorporations have done is convince people that without DLC and microjewactions they wouldn't be making a profit. The market that they can sell to has grown exponentially over the years. When normalfags and women are playing videogames you know this isn't the nerd hobby it used to be. Companies will be perfectly capable of making money without jew tactics.

All ratings regarding movies and videogames have always been independent of the US gov.
As far as I'm aware, they're the only things that get rated by a board of some sort in the US. I'm not sure how these Ratings Boards are made, all sorts of companies that sell games or movies get together and decide I guess, for public distribution anyways. If a game's rated AO+ it won't be sold openly by large distributors, at least most of them anyways.

Why are you faggots so concerned about lootboxes and micro transactions?
I don't even know of any games that have those besides the yearly Assassins Creeds and CoDs.
Are you guys seriously playing those shitty games? By purchasing those shitty yearly games, you're already supporting shitty practices in the gaming industry.

It restricts content in a media product.

>remove lootboxes and microtransactions
I'm pretty sure nobody said they're gonna remove microtransactions, they just wanna remove paid RNG boxes. Games can still have in-game stores where you buy what you want instead of hoping you'd get it in a lootbox you paid for.

>be dem
>use this precedent to pass a bill forcing games with "hateful material" to get instant AO ratings

the muh kids is such a shit argument it's true purpose is to give the government more control

That's a pretty bad analogy. Whatever the manufacturer spends to put windows in your car, they would have to charge you at least that much extra just to break even.

I don't give a fuck about the big publicly traded game publishers.
Let the investors run away when they realize that it isn't an infinitely growing cashcow anymore and let the publishers crash and burn.
More will rise up and take their place with more sustainable business models.

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I suggest they get into business and not government, then.

>They're the ones passing it
With a minority in the house? That's a neat trick!

That is one garbage clickbait image.

god i hope. imagine games without shitty gatcha bullshit

Overwatch has lootboxes

Pretty sure there's something about pay2win microtransactions as well.

Specially in mmos, where you pay for premium items to prevent your items from breaking when you're upgrading and shit like that, it's the same gambling garbage but with extra steps.

Overwatch is a shitty game.

>400 post thread on something with zero chance of every passing

No its not a bad analogy.
The car costs the same as it would with windows, you aren't offered a cheaper car.
Now they just charge you extra because lol.

> kids under 18
> 17yo 11 months 29 days is labeled as a kid in the US
> 18+ games aren't allowed on consoles
> M rating is 17+

So if this passes than loot boxes are done for.

>Cool games get AO ratings
>Parents don't buy them for their kids
>Adults buy game for themselves and play it
and eventually more stores will just openly sell AO games cuz profit and stupid parents will buy them for their kids, but we'll have a golden age for a few years - maybe

So, same thing as what'll happen if you ban loot boxes? They'd just sell AO to kids.

That's a stretch from gambling but also banning/restricting P2W bullshit would be justified too. The only thing that should be bought with real money are cosmetics that don't affect the gameplay.

Only after he turn into a feminist.

Fuck off Jew

You know what
Yeah fuck those too

Sometimes you need enough crazy to work

Honestly kinda wish trading cards had been banned for me as a kid, it was a total waste of life and money, and when everyone is just trying to get the shiniest most epic card, nobody bothers learning how to play the game, they just collect. If gambling cards had been banned, corporations would have actually had to design fun and interesting board games based on mechanics rather than 0 IQ shiny card collecting.

This could easily be a bipartisan bill, the House Democrats are raring to stick it to big corporations. This honestly has a decent chance unless the Democrats oppose it solely on the grounds that a Republican introduced it, which unfortunately, is always a possibility

It should. Kids can't go to a casino. They can't play the lottery.

It's not passing, bro.

Kill yourself in absolute fucking scum

>people in here saying let's ban magic the gathering as well
Yeah guys, banning lootboxes isn't a slippery slope, and it's the SJWs who want to take my fun things from me.

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Honestly.
I just wish they were required to sell the cards individually.
That way I could buy them cheaper than after market overpriced shit.

It’s literally made to be addictive
Fucking stop you idiot

>Commit Neck Rope

>I just wanna play vidya in peace without everything sparking drama because it doesn't cater to one side's views, is that too much to ask for?

It got big and popular my friend. Just hope Manga doesn't get the same treatment, specially now with the 2020 olimpics in Japan.

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t. shabbos goy

I don't want it banned.
I want them to be required to sell shit individually straight from them on top of the packs, instead overpriced after market shit.
It would be more expensive than buying a pack but it would be cheaper than buying it from some guy who opened 200 packs to get it to sell to you for 300 bucks.

And that would likely kill the game and thus it would cease to exist and my fun shit is gone. They live off selling packs. Also you just killed limited you fag

Gambling laws exists you stupid fuck
Die already faggot

Manga has been big and popular since like the 90's. Anime expo is one of the largest cons in the west. Just shit like comiket and comicon outranks it. It's bigger than E3

>on top of the packs

This bill is trying to stop KIDs from having their little brains lootboxed. You're grubby card game played exclusively by 30 year-old men should be fine.

So, why are you retards suggesting we should also ban magic?

KYS Puritan faggot. Once again showing conservatives are the censor happy "muh childrun" faggots

It’s actually the worst

>Pay 4.99
>Get a pack of cards of equal or aggregate value
>You physically own the cards and can do with them as you please

Lootboxes
>Pay a varying amount of money
>May or may not get items of equal value to amount paid
>Don’t own items in any capacity
>Items can be taken from you at any time because you don’t physically own them or rightfully own them

It’s a fucked practice that corporations like EA has been exploiting for years. This shit has been plaguing gaming for 2 fucking console generations. The worst part is you’re only defending to be a contrarian faggot.

How would it kill the game?
They would be selling the card individually and making all the money that grubby little jews sucking from their teat do.
They won't make as much money but you faggots would never stop playing the game and will continue to buy cards to play the meta so the game will continue to exist.
The game wouldn't die, it would just stop being full of jew faggot shit.

/pol/ has been actively shitting up the entire website for a while now because of legitimate stupid people who crept in during the election. they're even shitting up boards like /an/ and /sci/ with bullshit like hating cats and talking about killing them (because muzzies and liberals like them)

Fresh
Unless they want porn games flooding consoles this kills the loot box

There's a good reason for it.

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I wouldn't be happy about that because it would just make people hide their true views. How are we supposed to know who to target and kill if we don't know what they think?

>ban magic the gathering as well
We should.

Gaming is heading in the free-to-play w/ loot box direction. If you don't want games to essentially by wrapping paper for microtransactions, you better hope this passes.

Hopefully it will pass yes. Forcing people to make a M rated game, which are known for selling less, to have lootboxes around is a great filter for this shit. It would work great at discouraging people from using them at all.

Stop this shit you fucking moron. Whales have proven that "vote with your wallet" doesn't work. We need a solution to get this shit under control, and if this is what it has to be, then so be it.

Guessing you have no idea that the higher a rating is, the more poorly a game typically sells?

how far fucking right are you to honestly believe that? Just one step shy of Saudi Arabia?

Is there a rule that /pol/ memes have to be years old garbage, or do they all just kind of end up that way because of the users?

Not him but, a Centrist is really just a reactionary position where you over react to extremist opinions. There's endless examples of extremist leftist opinions, but where are the examples of extremist alt right opinions? One is usually terrible examples that are touted as "a harmless loud minority" while the other are usually opinionated assumptions.
Here's examples for both:
Extremist Left: News station shows a protest where a antifa member punches a unarmed person in the face and breaks their nose
Extremist Right: News station shows Trump saying "the wall is good because it keeps out bad people" and people draw their assumptions to state "he's clearly being racist".
Ones video footage that actually happened.
The other is a assumption.
This is why some see Fox News as centrist, they only react to extremist left, while never making right leaning assumptions.

But M rated games or 17+? So there are minors playing them

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/pol/ is literally red-dit, and red-dit only ever gets our memes when they're a couple years old.

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Based. Fuck the publisher kikes

Post your country user

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Slot machines have artwork lmao, you're a dumb cunt

Sometimes this earth isn’t gay

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Dilute yourself

No it’s an SJW posting as a normal person notice both the mash and T shirt hiding a radical SJW

The picture is calling people who hate radical anti-SJWs SJWs and not normal people though.

Overwatch isnt for kids.
Its 18 and up.
It has guns in it.
Youtube even gates it mature adult because of this.

This
Just keep this cancerous practice away from kids and get your fucking AO rating since 17 is still a child

Of all the fuckery associated with microtransactions and DLC, Overwatch is pretty innocent. They even make the maps and characters free day of release.

Well guess what I’m used my 1st amendment right to tell you to fuck off and stop pushing predatory practices on underaged kids

Free speech needs limits
It’s vague for a reason but easily abused

The government can one up them and straight up ban and highly fine companies that do.
If I had my way they’d get off lighter dumping 1000 gallons of oil into a national river

Government can ban, file and even imprisonment.
AO is little fish to what the government can actually do

>You're a leftist for wanting freedom of expression
Okay, retard.

Yes the are
The government has already censored art with advertising guidelines
But keep thinking you’re above what you actually are.

This
We need a crash to give the industry a good reset button

>T Wants a new generation of complete degenerate obsessed with Alchol and the Shiny box Jew
Fuck off you stupid nigger

Not all expression is good
I highly doubt you want to see Ron Jeremy’s wrinkled Dick posted everywhere