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Tomorrow, bitches!
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What’s tomorrow?
I've seen the trailer that'll show during State of Play and I can definitely say the hype train will be going at full speed when the public sees it too
they're gonna keep cloud's advent children emo personality so fuck it
I saw an ape escape thread now this. NExt you're going to escalate it to Episode 3 getting announced. I guess the console warriors gotta set the bar high so they can use it as shitpost fuel
>HAHAHA HOLY SHIT sony is FINISHED they didn't even get Chrono Break
The reunion.
>Square Enix
>finishing anything within 7 years
Don't be ridiculous
Oh but they're great at finishing trailers.
>Cloud is depressed after the events of Final Fantasy 7
>Suddenly the hack writers of Advent Children think this is how Cloud acts 24/7
I really hate this.
>They already lost two years of work by outsourcing to cyberconnect2. It's vaporware.
Advent Children was trash.
>Emo Cloud dressing up in drag part of the game
Yeah, unless SE retcons him being a faggy bitch, game is gonna be shit for having an unlikeable protagonist
Please don't mess up tifa
Please don't mess up tifa
Please don't mess up tifa
Barret is thick af. I wager Tifa will be fine. I definitely expect them to give her spats though.
Cloud was so much better when he was a jaded but strong asshole, like i am. Why can't they make Clint Eastwood-like characters for me to insert as anymore? I'm not some sissy goth bitch
It's Ratchet, not FF7
I can definitely dig spats, but Squeenix is gonna make her ass flat and act like she's thicc.
>is gonna make her ass flat
i mean
Thursday
>VIIR is episodic
>XV was unfinished
>KH3 is average at best and didn't end the series
I have no faith in this game
user, VII was unfinished
Square Enix is showing something, but its either Avengers, KH3 DLC, or something else
FF7 remake has to be E3
E3 doesn't have a Sony conference this year, and FFVIIR is going to be Sony exclusive.
>user, VII was unfinished
How so?
KH3 DLC was already revealed.
Square Enix took Sonys spot at E3, theres also the concert thing thats happening
Doubt it
Its gonna be avengers :^)
I just wanna see the 3 girls who I can stop caring about this trainwreck.
Okay, we've establish that Square Enix is incompetent as fuck and that the Tifa reveal will inevitably be a disappointment.
Now, post Tifa
the "re-reveal"
Extra content/fixes added in international release, Yuffie and Vincent weren't meant to be optional (would be part of main game), more Weapon fights, clone plot scrapped (although that's for the best).
There's probably more.
it was announced but nothing was shown, they only dropped the critical game mode
>Extra content/fixes added in international release
you mean the shit we got in the USA version by default?
Exclusive to the Epic Games Store
Of course. Still means it came out in an unfinished state. VII added extra bosses, XV added extra bosses. Same shit, different decade.
yeah,you see,final fantasy is a japanese franchise
Is it even going to come out for the PS5?
The only difference is that we weren't made to pay for Square's incompetence in 1997. Now we have to pay through the nose just to fix the fucking product.
except they were more money grubby with XV.
>a CGI movie
>anime
>season pass
>Royal Upgrade DLC
>Ardyn DLC
>Novels
>shit added in patches months after release
in addition to the base game just to get it's story.
It was never exclusive, just first on PS4
>Still believing Square can do anything right
When will you guys learn?
>all of those fucking extras that aren't optional
And that's why I'll never play or buy XV
Dragon Quest XI did surprisingly well, but that's what happens when you basically let a team that pushes out a nostalgia-based series that doesn't radically change everything on a per-game basis, do what they want rather than constantly fuck with your developers and directors over and over.
>E3 doesn't have a Sony conference this year,
didnt nintendo do the same shit but it was basically streamed in the same day to buy in the hype and resulted in no change?
I forgive the Enix side of SE, but the Square side is just incompetent.
DQXI is the first proper DQ in more than a decade, even DQ couldn't go without Square ruining it
It's KH3 DLC
Nintendo's been doing E3 Directs for years, and even then they have invitationals or special events at E3 specifically for the occasion. Sony on the other hand will probably just release a State of Play this year during it and that's it.
Cloud looks girlier than Lightning
Wrong way around. Square was fine before the merger.
It's actually both.
>ruined FFXV
>costed Square Enix $33 million for a new in house studio
>quit the company right after
>made a new studio to make a game based on the Olympics
Holy shit, how did someone destroy a company so badly?
I hope that we get to see Aeris' panties in the remake
>literally tried sabotaging FF and SE from the inside
Pretty based honestly
>>made a new studio to make a game based on the Olympics
was that part confirmed?
I still don't think we'll see proper gameplay and, even if we do, it'll still be FFXV style and will still kill my interest. I hope I'm wrong.
In any case, tomorrow still holds a lot of hype for me either way.
It was for the Paralympics, my mistake.
don't ever post my wife again
Is it confirmed that Iceborne will be in it?
Oh.
WRONG WAY AROUND
Seth's co star on The Orville has more meat on her bones than this bitch
It makes more sense for it to be at E3 than tommorow, most likely will show the kh3 DLC since Nomura announced it
>outsourcing to cyberconnect2
Is this real? What the fuck?
Yea, CyberConnect2 made the beta that they showed off some years ago. Nomura hated where its going so he just scrapped it for an inhouse production instead.
I mean it did looks like fucking trash, it's just too bad Nomura takes a decade to make anything now
Google it. The work they did was so utterly horrendous that it failed all of Square's standards. It couldn't even be salvaged in post so everything had to be moved in-house and started over from scratch. 2 years gone.
>2 years gone
not exactly. assets and levels can be entirely salvaged.
Not entirely his fault given that Square-Enix has tossed all their dev teams around onto separate projects. FF13? Had to haul in multiple teams to get it to stop being a development hog. FFXIV 2.0? Had to bring in multiple teams to get it off the ground again. Nomura's projects had been consistent: Final Fantasy Versus XIII (turned into XV despite his best wishes), and Kingdom Hearts III, but he was one of Square's premiere directors so they kept dragging him onto pretty much fucking everything in the meanwhile, and now he has to handle the remake of all remakes that he didn't even know he was officially the director of until early on in the game's reveal day after watching the trailer ahead of the public.
The reason Kingdom Hearts had all those handheld spinoffs that festered and fucked up the storyline? Literally his method of trying to hold over the fans until KH3 because he was so damn busy, which grew way out of proportion to the point that it's obvious KH3's final state exists just to get the tangles of all that shit out of his hair and focus on his newer plotlines.
side by side kek
Why did they give Cloud beady little eyes and heroine addict dark circles? His redesign is fucked.
Exactly my point - usually they can be salvaged but theirs were so bad that Square couldn't use them
>heroine addict dark circles
if canon still applies, it'd been like a month since Cloud recovered from mako poisoning and arrived in Midgar, and even during that time Tifa wasn't really sure he was all there.
Nomura is overworked by square. I bet all the adderal he has to take is why Kingdom Hearts is retarded
TIFA IS WHITE
Don't blame Nomura, he literally didn't know he was going to be director for FFVII Remake until the debut trailer came out.
if he took addy kingdom hearts' cutscenes wouldn't be so awkwardly paced.
Wait a minute cloud wasn't emo he was just tsundere for the planet
Lightning is hot, should I play XII?
she's built for sex
XIII is boring as fuck, i know it's a type but you're better off playing XII
Yes, you should play Final Fantasy Twelve
No she's not hot. Also she's in XIII not XII
13-2 and 13-3 were decent
You want this instead, user?
does he go nipples-out all the time? if so, sure.
lol no stop lying
What could they possibly show that they haven't already shown?
We've seen cutscenes. We've seen action gameplay. We've seen menus.
I mean they could always (and they certainly will) redo all of the above, but it'd still be the same thing.
The best they could do would simply to give us the Tifa, Yuffie and Aeris designs.
Because by the end of the day the game will still be an eternity away, and it'll still be broken up into several different parts and sold separately. And they will still have completely abandoned turn based gameplay, and the ability to seize full control of your entire party in favour of playing as none other but Cloud with assists from AI companions, in a real time action game system.
Nothing we don't already know.
>We've seen menus.
Have we? I've never seen any screenshots of the menu screens.
Not to my knowledge but I don't think they'd bother with an announced, scheduled event just to announce a date for AT Nerg, which is the last pre-Iceborne content.
Show some indication of what travel between areas will be like. Confirm whether there's an overworld. Show other character designs. Give a proper cinematic trailer that isn't just walking through Midgar. Show off battle menus, equipment menus, do a deep dive into the new Material system. Reveal that they're including a classic battle mode. Show off cross dressing Cloud
There's a ton they could show off.
It's a 10 minute video, there's absolutely no chance SE spent 4 full years with their mouth taped shut only to unveil their long awaited project of the century in a 90 second bit in a 10 minute long Sony direct. Maybe if Sony was also at E3, they could use this as a tease and show the whole thing off there but they are skipping E3 this year. Why the fuck would Sony tease 7R here and now only for Microsoft or SE themselves to unveil the project in it's entirety at E3?
It's either being shown this year at E3 or it's a next gen title and we have to wait a long time before seeing it.
>We've seen...
Nothing? The original tiny bit they showed at the reveal probably was nothing more than a standalone demo built off of FFXV that has nothing to do with the actual project itself, they showed us a few super early images of the game but again that was nearly 4 years ago at this point. I highly doubt anything from the initial reveal was concrete finished work that didn't somehow find it's way into the garbage over the years.
wrong
wrong
I'm going to update and post this every year until she's revealed
>13-2 and 13-3 were decent
u cheeky fug
this tifa is just no good
>Nothing?
We've seen this
youtube.com
And in combination with what we've learned about its action gameplay and being divided into episodic parts. What more could we learn?
It will be FFVII, FFXV edition, the episodic boogaloo.
Which FF can I fap to then?
Square Enix took Sony's E3 time slot. They'll most likely show it there. Even without Sony.
Look at the date on it, you'd have to be crazy to think a trailer/demo made before the game had even entered production holds any value.
i just realised that barret's got jet black's voice
13-2 is easily better than FF13.
Noel is actually the best character in the 13 series, and Caius is a far better villain with way better motivations.
>Play it first on Playstation
>Play it first
>first
Holy fucking shit. I unironically forgot about this. It's not even exclusive.
Good, I want it on switch and on Pc, xbox can just have it at this point
she's probably gonna look just like in mobius
>FFXV named its DLC "episodes"
>So that must mean FFVII episodes will be the same
Is Tifa supposed to be Asian?
noel sucks
So you're expecting the game to be unrecognizable? With completely different designs and artstyles?
Like I am sure they've made new models of the characters, but the designs will be about the same if not exactly the same for the vast majority of all the characters. It'll have the same general style. It'll still be FFXV combat. And the things we've learned about its episodic nature doesn't have anything to do with the trailer.
What are you expecting to see? At best we're just going to get a different compilation of cutscenes with an action montage just like this one only in a different location(s).
I really, really doubt they'll surprise us. It's a remake after all, we all know what FFVII is. And they've also already detailed the biggest things they'll be changing, and it hasn't even been good news. Why would this be different?
You'd have to be insane to believe it wouldn't be on every platform. The only real question is will it be current, cross, or next gen only.
She's like all FF characters. Caucasian eyes and nose, but asian facial structure
And that was not the only reason why
Square Enix outright said that they're dividing the game into episodes that will be sold separately. But they reassured us that each episode will be a full sized game.
So when you're getting FF7Re Part 1, it won't be a remake of all of FFVII. It'll be roughly one third or something of FFVII combined with added padding and fanfiction to make it a "full game". And then it'll end on a cliffhanger before we get Part 2 a couple of years later.
The original bit they showed was a very generic take on everything, as it was obviously made before the actual project had been put in motion. While what we will see may not be very different it'll at least be content that will be a part of the finished product and something we can mine for information and critique. There is no point trying to pick apart the original reveal trailer because as noted, at this point it's 4 years old and probably never was a part of the actual project to begin with.
Hell we still don't even know what was meant by the "episodic" comment or if it even meant anything at all.
If she does she's going to be higher quality though, and there will probably some differences. The long puffy hair ending in a ponytail, for example.
Nah fuck you.
I wouldn't even care if he was just depressed but the movie had to make him a massive fucking pussy on top of it. Constantly needs other characters to tell him what to do like a little bitch.
>game everyone played 20 years ago with better graphics and ffxv combat
I'll pass
>Square Enix outright said that they're dividing the game into episodes
It was an offhand comment in an extremely old interview that was never clarified to any extent.
I forgot his name until you posted it in this thread. He's shit.
>There is no point trying to pick apart the original reveal trailer
Why not? It laid their intentions bare, and was clearly what they were striving towards. Which is why while I am fully expecting everything to look slightly differently, I am not expecting anything to be drastically different from it.
It won't be like 13Versus to 15 where things actually became different. This will still be FF7 at its core, and they'll still be chasing the same type of gameplay as before. In other words it won't be radically different.
You probably didn't play 13-2 then.
Or maybe we just have different taste in characters, and you don't like Noel while I do.
>people dont realize the "rereveal" is in reference to Medievil, which they have already confirmed as being the main focus of the 10 minute long show
I'd love to be wrong, but I am not confident in anything any more.
They should just be making a new Final Fantasy game to be honest. And not retread Final Fantasy XV and all of its shit. I severely doubt that the remake will compare well to the original anyway.
But no we're getting a remake instead of a new game. And they'll be retreading all the FFXV trash while they're at it.
>It won't be like 13Versus to 15 where things actually became different.
We all want that to be true but we all also can plainly see how bad Squares track record has been over the last 20~ years. The only real intention they had with that reveal was taking a huge paycheck from Sony for the rights to show it off, arguably far before it was ready to be shown. They hadn't even told Nomura he was the project director before unveiling it, SE management is a wild and magical place.
>People actually think FF7R will get a trailer tommorow
Uh, I don't know if he's here, but there was an user in the last FFVII thread who wanted this colored. So I gave it a try. I'll color the other parts some other day... Or never
No. Just no. It's very clear that it's not about MediEvil. Furthermore, the leaker and his tranny admin friends on ResetEra heavily imply it's FF7. This and the Hashimoto tweet. It's gonna be FF7.
>4 years of radio silence
>Broken so they can show it off on a 10 minute long event video of which it would have a maximum of 5 minutes of coverage
Not happening, E3 is where it'll be if it's not a next gen title.
Its not going to be FF7. And everyone is going to be angry and screaming and Yea Forums will be all like "OH NO NO NO".
Screencapped. I will laugh at both of (You) tomorrow.
>What could they possibly show that they haven't already shown?
>We've seen cutscenes. We've seen action gameplay. We've seen menus.
Yeah, and it looked fucking ridiculous. Seeing anorexic Cloud in high fidelity realistic graphics carrying that giant buster sword that's bigger than he is looked absurd. These designs were never meant for realistic graphics.
How badly will modern Square fuck up Cloud's character?
Hey, I would gladly like to be wrong. But I know better not to get excited about rumors, especially far fetched ones.
Nomura said he will be a near identical copy of his original version except with a bigger sense of humor & he will come across as kind of a "Dork" instead of the emo version from the spin offs
>How badly will modern Square fuck up Cloud's character?
There's nothing to fuck up with. Cloud was never a good character, and it's because his entire personality revolves around a shitty M. Night Shyamalan-esque plot twist.
For starters, before the twist is revealed, Cloud doesn't show any indication he is suffering (aside from some vague hints that the story glosses over), so the end result is that he goes from being a taciturn hero who has internalized someone else's memories as his own without realizing it to...a taciturn hero who outwardly appears the same, but apparently has resolved all those deep-seated issues, no really, believe me.
Furthermore, what is even the point of the whole Nibelheim incident? Cloud goes from being a heroic person (which he clearly is, judging by the flashbacks where he rescues Tifa twice and defeats Sephiroth) who failed to qualify for the elite squad of the evil cyberpunk regime (i.e. not a group you'd want to join) to assuming the memories of...Zack, another heroic person who did qualify for the elite squad of the evil cyberpunk regime. As far as catalysts for mental breakdowns go, this comes across as very pedestrian in the grand scheme of things. It's like the writers wanted to have a plot twist and an identity crisis, but couldn't think of any compelling material for such a storyline.
Another big issue that FVII suffers from is the dialogue. Everyone in FVII communicates in very basic English sentences. Despite being a group of misfits, some of which aren't even human, all of the characters have very nondistinct and same-y styles of speech. Since there's also a weird lack of voice acting (not even grunting noises for taking damage), characters don't feel like particularly distinct individuals.
user I...
not this post again
>no actual rebuttal or counter-argument
cope
I've got your new Cloud design right here, a tall buff man carrying a huge sword, that fits.
>gay fuccbois dressed in matching black
FFXV's designs are also terrible, albeit for different reasons
I like the all black motif.
I have no faith left in Square Enix's ability to make good games
Except that Cloud isn't particularly strong at all until he was experimented on by Hojo. He didn't take roids and hit the gym 4 times a day.
New SebastiAn after eight years.
Literally who? And no, I don't wanna know.
Yo shoutouts to Etsy, Pinterest and Kazaa.
He looked fine in Dissidia and Smash, I dont know what went wrong here
but FF7 doesnt need realism
I think he looks fine.
He only looked sickly in a few parts of the trailer.
Yeah, they took it a bit too far with his scrawny appearance. Not even remotely believable that a dude like this is a mercenary.
A reveal like FF7 would make people more interested in watching PlayStation Directs in the future, but I don't see why Square wouldn't wait until their own pre-recorded E3 presentation. I'm actually into a lot of the smaller tier PS4 games, so I don't mind them getting the spotlight; still waiting for an update on WiLD.
Based.
I fucking hate Thursdays
"this guy are sick" - Aerith Gainsborough
What did Aerith mean? I have several theories:
>"This guy is sick"
Don't know about this one... the real meaning might be much deeper than that, even though this is supposedly the "fixed translation"
>"This guy looks like a corpse"
>"This guy is not even really alive"
>"That guy looks like his head is being burned off by a thousand sunlights".
>"This guy looks sick as hell and he even looks as if he's been running around on gas, if the guy doesn't die like normal, maybe he'll just keep running on gas and I'll be like, ok then."
>"This guy looks like he was suffering from intense pain, which is quite fitting since apparently he was running on gas for like... two days."
>"That guy probably thinks that he really was dying at some point, but... no he wasn't dying because he ran on gas. He's dead because a demon came to life and it was the demon's mistake that the corpse was made and it was burned into ash by the flame."
>"That guy really doesn't look human in the slightest, like he's looking through a crack in reality so his identity could be revealed through "a hole-in-the-air" vision."
>"This guy is really a bad guy, he's probably on drugs or something and he really hates people that have the kind of money you have. So he's going to take your soul and use it as a pawn to bring about the death of the majority of humanity."
>"This guy just told me that a new Final Fantasy VII Remake trailer will be shown in 22 years on May 9th, 2019 at Sony's 'State of Play'. Get on the hype train, because his sickness is about to be revealed in full 4K resolution."
Going off the last theory here...
Steganography was invented by Russian professor Igor Stravinsky to hide the release dates of popular literature, paintings, movies, etc.
When a video game franchise has a release date or game trailer for its newest installment, the developer may make use of this technique (the "game trailer steganography" technique).
This user is correct. Anything ff7 related will be teased at the concert.
II, III, IVTAY, V, VI, VII, Before Crisis, X, X-2, XIII-2, Lightning Returns and World of Final Fantasy.
>not fapping to Freya
The shading and Barret's reaction face are glorious
Nobody named "Aerith" ever said that, you dolt.
I'm no furry, so the only characters one might even consider fapping to in IX are Beatrix, Ruby and Lani.
I remember hearing that Cloud's gotten a redesign that's more faithful to the original game. It was revealed at some FFVII 20th anniversary event and no phones or cameras were allowed inside, so we only have the people's word to go off of
>Not Garnet's ass
Nice
Here's a link to some article as proof that I'm not bullshitting
destructoid.com
My dick wasn't ready for this
Why the fuck were they outsourcing this in the first place? FF7R is the biggest project Square will ever work on
That's a unicorn, not a human. Actually I just really hate her. She's the shittiest tsundere in the franchise.
She's not a tsundere though?
Tifa is a boob girl
Aeris was the ass girl.
>still looking forward to FF7R
>looking forward to anything involving Yoshi-P
>Constantly needs other characters to tell him what to do like a little bitch.
He wanted to die, he wasn't just depressed alone. He failed to save his friend, and doesn't want to the responsibility of being the one to have to save anyone else because he's resigned to failing at it.
Yes, she is. Even at the end of the game on the Invincible, when Steiner comments on her and Zidane's relationship. She's all: "What are you talking about? That's not it at all!" She's always pushing Zidane away and hiding her feelings, huffing and puffing.
Theyve never gone into detail about this and it was said like four years ago before everything was restructured and it has never been mentioned since
What exactly am I supposed to glean from this post?
Nomura implied they will be formally announcing that at e3
That actually gives me hope
You know what its implying.
ffx only took 2 years
The voice is annoying, but this is a good summary of all the official interviews and information: youtube.com
None of that "everything has been scrapped" bullshit.
Yeah, that's why he said "Square Enix", not Squaresoft.
>unironically linking to e-celeb clickbait
Fuck off.
Imagine thinking it's not a large catalyst for a mental breakdown what the fuck lmao.
Let's go through this hold on.
He grows up with one dream/goal - to join soldier and be like his hero - and boasts about it to everyone in his village, he fails at that goal, is understandably ashamed and embarrassed to ever talk to or see any of them again. He then gets assigned to a mission to his hometown, whereupon his hero murders the shit out of everyone he ever knew and destroys his village. He then confronts his hero, and gets stabbed to fuck. He then gets fuckin experimented on by hojo out the asshole. He's then saved in a near dead state by zack, someone who achieved the goal he dreamed of, and who constantly does his best to keep him alive all the way back to midgar, whereupon he is brutally fucking murdered by shinra and saves cloud yet again in the process after asking him to take care of aeris and live for him
NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU ON HOW IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO SEVERELY FUCK A PERSON UP TO YOU
I'm excited for a Yoshi-P helmed game desu. If its a mainline FF, it'll be a throwback to the old fantasy settings too, which sounds fun.
>clickbait
>literally everything we know so far with sources
kys
He beat the real sephiroth and chucked his gay asshole into the lifestream before getting his roids. that's the power of pussy for you
>inverse ass
what the fuck
ITS HABED
chinese dev that works as a contractor on 7r said the trailer they've worked on for a while will finally be shown at SoP
>extras that aren't optional
What? Everything's optional. I haven't watched any FF film since AC, and I don't intend to. Unless they do something with the Turks
And canon to the story.
saw that screenshot earlier and tried to find the post. had no luck. you have a link?
It's like he's heavily mako poisoned at the start of the game or something.
nah
I hope they include the scene of Johnny cucking Cloud at the resort.
That isn't quite the whole truth. Tifa was 250% tits and 10% ass, while Aeris was 100% tits and 200% ass. 100% being big on the scale.
Too bad the character on the right is only in the shit game for 5 minutes.
Except 3 million Japanese fans were so stop being a hypocrite
FF7 literally has all that too
No it didnt and that 33m had nothing to do with XV, also the XV mobile game made over 300 million in 2018 so whatever loss Luminous productions incurred in 2018 was made back multiple times over
>that's the power of pussy for you
also dead mom rage insert fleetwood mac
Nobody cares about your gay online butt buddy.
Nomura was the one who chose CC2 to work on it to begin with
Oh great the XV autist is here. Nobody reply to him.
objectively better
More excited for the MH announcement desu.
FF13 was only in development for like 5 years or something
>spoiler
You should play (watch) Before Crisis, if you haven't. Officially even when it contradicts VII in the reactor, the original VII events are considered canon. It's rather good. Pales in comparison to the original masterpiece naturally, but it's still good. I would recommend a try.
Nice. Thanks.
in the good game for over 45 minutes which is more longer than the amount of FMV cutscenes in ff7
seeth
Fuck off Barry.
>beady little eyes and heroine addict dark circles
It's only been 3 months since he started recovering from mako poisoning, and his head is all scrambled from the trauma of being experimented on and watching Zack die which happened in September. The only reason he's even with AVALANCHE is because Tifa saw him wandering the slums looking like shit in December, and she takes him in.
Can you help a brotha out? Do you know the source of this image? It's cropped so google is being useless.
Why is the Smash render of Cloud the only good render of Cloud?
Every other version of Cloud either looks like crap or hmm look like a fuckin 17 year old despite being 21?
>for over 45 minute
That's probably including dlc. Because I actually did count her screen time in the main game. It's a little over 20 minutes. She's in the game for less than 5 minutes before chapter 9
How can they deconstruct the "cool protagonist" trope, if they don't depict him as cool in the beginning? The audience should be led a false conclusion before one pulls the rug from under them for it to be a twist.
Yes, you've just given a summary of the events that happened in FF7 leading to Cloud assuming Zack's persona. What is your point?
The post wasn't talking about the events leading up to it, it was criticizing it for not being compelling. Cloud had already shown himself to be an immense badass by defeating Sephiroth and saving Tifa, so why should I be moved by his assuming Zack's persona? It isn't interesting in the slightest because there is no real conflict there, his assuming the Zack identity is the result of Cloud being unrealistically insecure in a way that is simply not believable.
Cloud assuming Zack's persona would have been compelling if Cloud was the sort of person who had real stakes for doing it. Like if he was a coward who let people die or something. As it is, Cloud's arc is incredibly weak and unconvincing.
I think I have. I remember hating the reactor confrontation where sephiroth just gets scared of cloud and jumps in the pit.
Outside of DLC she's only in the game onscreen for like 5-10 minutes before her hilariously ineffective demise.
I wonder what his armpits smell like haha
Good taste, Ultimate Cloud definitely looks the best.
We'll have to play to find out.
>frogposter
>shit opinion
every time
>only in development for like 5 years
>only
Man, I remember when FFXII was in development for three years and everyone was freaking out and making memes about how long it was taking to get made.
>slutty anime girl poster
>no actual rebuttal or counter-argument
every time
>Man, I remember when FFXII was in development for three years
But user, FFXII was in development for twice that long
>Development for Final Fantasy XII began in December 2000 and was headed by Final Fantasy Tactics director Yasumi Matsuno and Final Fantasy IX director Hiroyuki Ito.
no one needs to counter-argue a frog
4 years later and I still find it hard to believe that Cloud made it into Smash.
XII was in development for 6 years
I wonder if they'll keep the crossdressing quest in the game, and if so, I wonder how many zoomers on Yea Forums who never played the original will call it SJW tranny pandering.
Yep. That scene is in Before Crisis and Last Order (If it was an anime, then this latter one is what you saw.). Square said already in 2005 that the reactor scene in these two is "a faulty Turk report" (As in the Turk arrives after the fact and since Sephiroth losing to anyone is unfathomable, they write down that he jumped instead) and that the events of VII are still the correct ones.
Yeah I know, I meant that at the three year mark was when people started freaking out and making memes about how long it was taking, because back then everyone thought three years was an insanely long time for an FF game to be in development.
Sorry for my poor wording English isn't my first language.
They've already said they're not cutting that part out.
>Cloud had already shown himself to be an immense badass by defeating Sephiroth and saving Tifa
Not remotely the case, he says himself he should have died and had no chance of winning. He's assuming zacks identity because of a combination of all the things I outlined, not least of which is his death and last request.
And he did let people die, in his own eyes he let zack die, he let every person in his village die, he's the type of character that takes on far more responsibility than anyone else puts on him and for things that are beyond his capabilities to prevent.
>How the new, slightly darker aesthetic sits with some of the crazier elements of the original game remains to be seen, but it seems they'll be intact. Can't wait to see the delicious sight of Cloud in a dress in glorious HD? "Please look forward to it," said Nomura as the interview came to a close.
eurogamer.net
no base game
also 20 minutes is longer than kairi, namine, aqua and xion screentime combined in kh3
Twice no less, considering all the... strife they had to put up with to get him in the base game
her death literally triggers the world of ruin idiot
also still more screentime than any female in kh3
>no base game
That's a lie.
>square tried to jew sakurai out of cloud for ultimate if they didn't make him dlc again
It's bad enough he still only has two songs.
"Only" because it's shorter than the 7 the original user was talking about. It's still a long time, but tech has come a long way and games do just genuinely take longer to make nowadays
Considering all the trouble they had to go through to get him, he probably won't make it to the next Smash game right?
He's so much fun to play.
I want to read about sakurai getting dicked around by SE, is there a source
No one even brought that game up you fucking schizo. Fuck off back to twitter.
>He's assuming zacks identity because of a combination of all the things I outlined, not least of which is his death and last request.
We're talking about the original FF7. The scene you describe happened in Crisis Core, and is a retcon.
>And he did let people die, in his own eyes he let zack die, he let every person in his village die, he's the type of character that takes on far more responsibility than anyone else puts on him and for things that are beyond his capabilities to prevent.
If Cloud is the type of character to take on so much responsibility, why did his newly constructed persona become a 'give no fucks' mercenary for hire? You're contradicting yourself.
nope
also this flashback alone is longer than namines entire screentime in kh3 which is just this scene at the end and few shots of her on the beach
youtu.be
And? I did because I knew you'd defend KH like you are literally doing right now.
at what hour is it gonna start state of play?
i kinda wanna watch it
>nope
Yes.
>namines entire screentime in kh3
Sora's conversation with her in the final world is twice as long as this
Just fuck off already, no ones interested in your autism.
Every time
>I shitposted because I'd knew it would derail the thread
woah
Not the guy you're talking to, but the identity swap thing does get covered in-game.
>Why is Cloud the way he is in the beginning?
He's emulating Zack. Jenova cells have a weird quick that mentally "links" those that have it, and his Cloud's poisoned state makes him extra vulnerable to its effects.
youtube.com
This video shows Zack and Cloud's escape from the ShinRa mansion and Zack deciding on becoming a mercenary. When Zack dies, he asks cloud to carry on for him, which is what triggers him to become cocky. Of course, the player wouldn't know this unless they unlock this scene, but it gets covered in the Lifestream arc.
It's not even a FFXV thread or KH3 and the faggot still comes here.
>arguing about cutscenes
he's attacked witcher, xenoblade, devil may cry, cyberpunk, various rpg generals - he's a pest that's probably on like sixty levels of ban evasion
Well yeah, they're the last two games Square put out.
reminder that Japan's second favorite FF is X
Japan's third favorite FF is XIII
First is VII?
ask me how i know youre a pathetic secondary "fan"
VI
The only thing the Japanese are correct about en masse concerning Final Fantasy is Famicom FFIII being better than its 3D remake.
rather than cool, he should be serious
Yes
No, Japan doesn't care about VI
They dislike that one.
Looks like Conan.
dualshockers.com
I'm searching for sources but it's mostly rumors and some assumptions. Nomura was cooperative, and Uematsu most likely wasn't the reason for the music (he doesn't own it, plus worked on Brawl in the first place). There's a grand total of 3 songs and 4 spirit pngs from Square:
>the two battle songs and this: youtube.com
>Bizarrely not even images of the summons that are *already* on the Midgar stage like Bahamut Zero, just two Clouds (not even the Nomura drawings), Geno and Mallow.
Cloud was one of the few who were absent from the story mode cinematics, which probably means it was another restriction. So no fights with Zelda representing Aerith or Duck Hunt dog as Red XIII, just... Cloud's there too.
>switch
yeaah i dont think the switch can run this game bud, sorry
It's a thread about a Nomura game, so Barry will eventually shitpost in it.
>Too bad the character on the right is only in the shit game for 5 minutes.
and is the worst love interest in FF history due to her minimal screentime (like half an hour at most) and lack of interaction with the MC (one flashback when they were little kids).
it being an arranged marriage did not help people care about this "romance" at all.
He is "serious about his work," but he's also striking cool poses and hitting on girls.
Japan seems pretty based except for the XIII part
As long as they keep it true to the original then I'm good.
If not, I can always play the original.
STOP GIVING ME HOPE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BECAUSE HE'S NOT, JESUS, DID PEOPLE FORGET THAT ALL HIS MEMORIES ARE FAKE? THAT HE WAS EXPERIMENTED ON FOR MONTHS WITHOUT PROPER FOOD OR PROPER ANYTHING
>the worst love interest in FF history due to her minimal screentime
Rasler's a pretty close contender.
Easy, partner. Don't get baited.
>Rasler
Who?
*looks him up*
Didn't he die before he was even confirmed to be a love interest?
to be fair to the guy you're replying to, Cloud still has to look convincing enough to get hired in the first place
>No machines
machina*
It's not helped by the fact that the story tries to make Luna so emphasized, but literally up until Leviathan all of her major work is off-screen or in the movie, and the whole "Noctis and Luna communicate by letters because of an off-screen promise" only cripples their interactions further when the goddamn concept art from Ferrari showed them communicating by phone.
For fuck's sake, there wasn't even a need for communication delay or so forth. It's almost like an excuse to lessen the amount of lines Luna's VA had to do rather than an actual decent plot reason.
>Didn't he die before he was even confirmed to be a love interest?
Yeah. His death leaves a huge impact in the story, but we only experience it through Ashe and players aren't given any reason to have real attachment to his character.
>showed them communicating by phone.
lol that wasn't even luna either, it was stella.
Tabata thought letters were a better idea for some reason
the more I look back on XV the more I dislike it. How could a game they worked on for a million years seem like it was slapped together
Ciritical mode is a patch, not the full DLC. We're getting a trailer at some point since it has story content.
>His death leaves a huge impact in the story, but we only experience it through Ashe and players aren't given any reason to have real attachment to his character.
Sounds just like Luna
well, when they scrapped nearly everything from Versus XIII and start from scratch with a new hack of a director, things will be messed up.
Versus looked pretty shit desu
I'm glad some of the music was retained tho
In spite of everything, I do think a Square rep is among the DLC, specifically a FF one.
Square might be greedy, but they aren't stupid. They probably anticipated some backlash with the lack of songs and spirits, and think they could make amends by making all that shit DLC you'd need to pay for.
As for "who" exactly I can't really be sure, but if I had to guess I would think either Tifa or Terra.
>FF7 literally has all that too
Made after, not during. This is a major difference, they were expecting XV to be a hit, VII was a hit when they started milking it.
Terra isn't coming in a million years, and you know as well as I do that if VII got another rep it'd be fucking Sephiroth
Sounds like a brudda to me ya?
>Ciritical mode is a patch, not the full DLC.
I said "revealed" as in the whole RE:Mind thing. I know Critical Mode is a patch (I have not played it)
>XV mobile game made over 300 million in 2018
Are you retarded?
>How could a game they worked on for a million years seem like it was slapped together
Executive meddling. I don't really blame the directors because of the amount of meddling and team pulling that went on over the years.
>Terra isn't coming in a million years
FFVI is just as beloved as FFVII and if Nintendo wants to make hype, I think she'd generate it and I nothing is really pointing to someone like Tidus or something.
>and you know as well as I do that if VII got another rep it'd be fucking Sephiroth
Would it though? I think Sephiroth would work better has a boss than an actual playable character
Tifa I think would fit better as a fighter, and there aren't too many straight brawlers in the cast.
>Are you retarded?
considering he's the FFXV fanboy that loves to spout lies and stupid bullshit in defense of FFXV, yes he is.
>Executive meddling.
this is executive meddling?
Sakurai wanted Terra but realized Cloud is hugely more popular and the most obvious Final Fantasy representative. He also wanted Geno since Brawl but any sensible person knows the most that could happen is another Mii costume (to go with the Chocobo hat).
All he needs to look like a convincing mercenary is the glowing Mako eyes. Even a scrawny dude on Mako is gonna have more strength than an ordinary human.
Not that he needs to look very convincing in the first place, since he only worked for AVALANCHE iirc and that's because Tifa put in a good word for him.
FF was already one of the most casual franchises in one of the most casual genres I don't see how you can make it more casual without going phone game tier.
>I don't see how you can make it more casual without going phone game tier.
being unable to die
I was referring more to the bigger picture and not just XV itself, but the whole disaster of epic proportions that was their last decade.
>FFVI is just as beloved as FFVII
Not in Japan it isn't. Or anywhere else really, but especially not in Japan. Tidus has an infinitely better chance, and he's not getting in either.
>Would it though?
Yes. What you;re saying is the equivalent of asking whether they're going to put Polnareff in Jump Force after Jotaro. No, they'd obviously put in Dio. End of discussion, no further conversation needed.
>phone game tier.
To be fair, there's been a few FF mobile games already.
Right, and we already have Cloud
The only other characters I can think of that stand a chance are Tifa or Sephiroth
or Agnes or Edea but they don't really count as FF
no he didn't, read the interview
sourcegaming.info
Nomura: When we first talked, I asked “are you sure you’re okay with Cloud?” He’s not a character from a new game, after all.
Sakurai: But on the other hand, if you think about who to add from Final Fantasy, it’s hard to come up with a choice that’s not Cloud. We could have used Terra or Bartz, protagonists in their own right, but I feel like there would be some people who wouldn’t know who those characters are.
Nomura: There are characters like Strago too.
Sakurai: Characters like Fusuya might be good as well.
Nomura: The fact that you focus on characters like that is…(laughs)
He's not saying "oh I really want Terra in but Cloud's just too darn popular!" He's comparing her and Bartz to Fusoya to Literal Whos like FuSoYa and laughing about the idea of putting them in.
FFX has a canon sequel novel where Tidus comes back and kicks a bomb thinking it's a blitzball, and his head falls off. Yuna revives him and then dumps him.
Nojima is a madman.
If we're getting a new square rep it's a Dragon Quest rep. It's the biggest series in Japan that still doesn't have a character in smash.
I liked it when I was a teenager, but yeah.
>If we're getting a new square rep it's a Dragon Quest rep. Square is never going to stop trying to do everything in its power to force the West to like Dragon Quest
Fair enough, I was going off of memory.
Square barely cares about DQ in the west, it was mostly Iwata that really wanted the west to like dragon quest, oddly enough.
There's no fucking way they show it at the Sony Direct. We're going to get a teaser at the Concert next month then full re-reveal at the Square conference.
>Not in Japan it isn't.
Maybe not as beloved something like V, but VI is still up there.
>Yes. What you;re saying is the equivalent of asking whether they're going to put Polnareff in Jump Force after Jotaro
No? Because Jump Force and Smash don't really mix well as far as comparisons go
Sephiroth has a chance of getting in sure, but I think other characters fit the bill better with the evidence we're given, specifically 'brave"
FFVI ain't big in Europe either. We never got any of the games until VII. It's only in US that VI is really popular.
Thoughts on the leak Yea Forums?
> FF7R will consist of 3 episodes: the stealing of the Tiny Bronco will mark the end of Episode 1 and the beginning of Episode 2, while the return (parachuting) to Midgar will mark the end of Episode 2 and the beginning of Episode 3.
> The game structure will be halfway between a modern open-world and an old world-map style: technically speaking is just open-world in the sense that everything is seamless and fully explorable, but while leaving a town the visual will gradually zoom out and your speed of movement will greatly increase in order to give the player the impression of navigating through a classic world-map when they’re on the overworld; conversely, while entering a town your speed will decrease and the camera will zoom-in; this kind of transition also happens during random encounters.
> In order to move faster in the open world, you’ll have the same motorcycle you used to escape from the Shinra Bldg..
> The battle system will feature an ATB turn-based system like the original “superimposed” like the Combat system from Kingdom Hearts. In more detail: you can freely move around, jump, attack and defend too, all in real time like in any action game; meanwhile, however, you have a time gauge that fills as time goes on like a classic ATB bar. When the bar is full, a command menu pops up where you can select the desired commands like Magic, Enemy Skill, Summon, etc. like in the original, but without interrupting the flow of battle. And since every character has its own time gauge, even while constantly being in control of a single character, you can easily input commands for the others too when their gauge is full (you can still switch between characters, however).
>Maybe not as beloved something like V, but VI is still up there.
Up where? I'd say IV, V, VII, X, and XIII are all more popular in Japan. If you can't even crack the top five in the series overall, why are we even talking about this.
>No? Because Jump Force and Smash don't really mix well as far as comparisons go
Why not? It's an all star game bringing in characters from a bunch of different series. The main point being that Cloud and Sephiroth tower over everybody else in that game to the point that frankly I think it's silly to pretend anybody else would get in.
>If we're getting a new square rep it's a Dragon Quest rep
>Having to get the design approval by Toriyama
>Having to let Sugiyama stop his jewery for 5 seconds for the bare minimum of music
lol no
DQ should be in it sure, but there's too fucking red tape for even the chance. Fucking Disney would be easier to work with for Sora than anyone from DQ would be with Sugiyama
fake and WARK!
>leak
>Square barely cares about DQ in the west,
say what, Square-Enix has spent millions upon millions of dollars trying to market DQ in the West. Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean they're not trying
How can anyone possibly be excited for FF7R?
Do you honestly believe deep down that Squeenix won't butcher it beyond belief?
I want to see this trainwreck, albeit not pay for it unless it's better than expected from my low expectations
Being excited for 7R and SE doing a botched job are mutually exclusive.
>implying Toriyama fucking cares
>muh sugiyama
Jesus Christ stop with this fucking meme. He'd be fine with putting his music in smash.
>has spent millions upon millions of dollars
>[citation needed]
The only DQ game to do really well in the west was DQIX, the one game they actually fucking tried advertising with. Square does not care about DQ in the west.
The one thing Square excels at is presentation. The story can suck, the game can suck, but walking around midgar with remastered music and modern era polish? Kino
I'm a filthy vidya whore. I'll play anything.
I just want to see how far they'll miss the mark when it comes to FF7R
so another teaser trailer
I am moderately interested but if the episodic stuff is confirmed, I am waiting for the complete edition.
don't want to repeat the same mistake of buying it at launch like what I did with XV
I just really like FFVII's main party. I think every single one of the characters is interesting and charming.
Yes, even Cait Sith
I want to see crossdressing Cloud in HD.
>We never got any of the games until VII.
Exactly, now shut your mouth, nobody cares.
user, VI is the 4th most popular among the cumulative collection of RPGs in Japan, albeit behind X and VII but still
>Why not? It's an all star game bringing in characters from a bunch of different series.
SJ titles aren't as diverse as Smash, the fact most of the roster makes up of DBZ, OP, and Naurto should tell you something. Having Jotoro and Dio isn't that surprising when Goku has Cell and Freiza.
>The main point being that Cloud and Sephiroth tower over everybody else in that game to the point that frankly I think it's silly to pretend anybody else would get in.
Not to devalue anyone, but Tifa stands just as much a chance as Sephiroth does. Even more when you consider Amiibos are a thing and you can bet your ass people would pay for another Tifa figurine.
Not to say Sephiroth wouldn't sell either, but it'd be pretty hard to get a decent model with his sword.
>How can anyone possibly be excited for FF7R?
Judging by the sales, people will still buy SE games despite the bitching
>implying Toriyama fucking cares
It's not a matter of caring dipshit, it's a matter of getting him to help supervise it
Nips would go apeshit if DQ got in and it wasn't Toriyama's designs.
>Jesus Christ stop with this fucking meme.
Did I strike a nerve? The truth hurts user
>He'd be fine with putting his music in smash.
Prove he'd fine with it user, because there's plenty of evidence towards the contrary
>Confirm whether there's an overworld
Why wouldn't there be?
Cloud is supposed to look young because the Soldier program injected him with lifestream
Tifa was made to ride the BBC.
>There's plenty of evidence towards the contrary
How about you post it then, user? I hope you haven't been believe shitposts by retarded anons in DQ threads saying that Sugiyama's a xenophobe and wouldn't ever let the west have his music.
>user, VI is the 4th most popular among the cumulative collection of RPGs in Japan, albeit behind X and VII but still
[citation needed]
>SJ titles aren't as diverse as Smash, the fact most of the roster makes up of DBZ, OP, and Naurto should tell you something. Having Jotoro and Dio isn't that surprising when Goku has Cell and Freiza.
But this wouldn't really be surprising either given that Cloud is already on the roster and there's speculation that Square-Enix is getting another character. If you looked at it completely in a vacuum and disregarded things like trying to give representation to Dragon Quest, the Square-Enix character that non-Japanese people are most likely to know about that isn't already in the game is Sephiroth. I don't want him in the game, but Tifa's certainly not anywhere close to Sephiroth in terms of notoriety.
>Not to devalue anyone, but Tifa stands just as much a chance as Sephiroth does.
I'm not "devaluing" Tifa by acknowledging that she's less valuable an asset than Sephiroth. I highly doubt Sakurai and Nintendo are factoring in the "people who want to cum on their amiibos" audience.
I think it's going to be a Dragon Quest character. If it's going to be another FF character it'd be a universal FF icon like a Black Mage or a Chocobo. If it's going to be an actual character, it'll either be another protagonist or Sephiroth. Tifa's not getting in.
I'm not ready for the amount faggots that are going to make a big deal about that like Gerudo Link so another delay might not be that bad
AWAY AWAY
GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING Yea Forums! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Banjo (yes, THE Banjo from Banjo-Kazooie) getting confirmed in Smash Ultimate! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming Fighter Pass when Banjo & Kazooie walks into the spotlight!
>b-but Microsoft has a good relationship with Nintendo rn! He’s gotta be in!
“No!”
Sorry Stevefags, but the Microsoft rep is taken by yours truly!, Just because Nintendo & Microsoft are making Minecraft stuff on Nintendo's consoles & handheld's doesn't mean Steve is in, & Why would Nintendo choose a terribly animated character over a character that has been requested ever since Melee & Phil Spencer acknowledged Banjo & Kazooie being in Smash instead of Steve? Sakurai went way out of his way to talk up Persona 5 before Joker's reveal, guess what other game he's talked up? That's right it's Banjo & Kazooie back then. Don't forget that the Minecraft dev team De-confirmed that blockhead, also, the Smash Ultimate Joker showcase that came out on April, it was a green witch, hinting Banjobros & Kazooiebros are coming in Ultimate. The DLC characters have also been confirmed to be “surprising” according to the developers, so I’m afraid your years of crying for Steve are going to be subverted just like Erdrickfags, Dongorongfagget, BillyBo10k, & Virginbitch with the reveal of our favorite underdog! But feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter & bitter!
Oh dear God what is that fucking smell?
T. never played FF7
Cloud basically crawled his way back to midgar on severe mako poisoning.
This. The characterization in FF7 is so good, down to the distinct and memorable character designs. I understood how important that was when I played FFXII later and had trouble remembering who's who.
I actually beat FF7 on the switch port for the 1st time just recently and I don't get this part. What 'experiments' did they do? Why does he not recall any of it? The whole lie he and Tifa maintain through the first half or so of the game seemed really bullshitty. She just didn't tell him because plot. I also don't get how Hojo can be Sephiroth's dad if his mom is the alien monster.
>Cloud's gotten a redesign that's more faithful to the original game.
I'm ready
I doubt it would happen but I would love if models like that was DLC
based
You bring up a great point about the importance of visual design. Seriously look at this get up. This guy is supposed to be some hardened warrior with his dumb fantasy version of cargo shorts and weird ankle-high laced up boot-sandles?
Go back to the Shinra mansion and walk up to the test tubes in the basement. You'll see an extra scene detailing this. Jenova wasn't Sephiroth's mother, Lucrecia was. Hojo injected Jenova cells into fetus Sephiroth.
>What 'experiments' did they do?
Hojo threw him in a vat and infused him with Jenova/Mako bullshit basically.
>Why does he not recall any of it?
He got severe Mako poisoning and PTSD
>The whole lie he and Tifa maintain through the first half or so of the game seemed really bullshitty. She just didn't tell him because plot.
Not because of the plot but because of her personality. Pretty sure Aerith pieces it together shortly before she dies.
>I also don't get how Hojo can be Sephiroth's dad if his mom is the alien monster.
Sephiroth is the son of Hojo and Lucretia. Hojo injected a bunch of Jenova cells into Lucretia's womb while she was pregnant. The result was Sephiroth
I see someone never got the hidden flashback. you should get it user, it explains a lot of how Cloud got so mentally fucked up and why Tifa never told the truth to him
I just want to see the materia system and the combat after cc2 got scrapped
>> FF7R will consist of 3 episodes: the stealing of the Tiny Bronco will mark the end of Episode 1 and the beginning of Episode 2, while the return (parachuting) to Midgar will mark the end of Episode 2 and the beginning of Episode 3.
Don't even need to read the rest to know how fake this shit it.
Obviously the most logical places to end episode one is Aerith's death.
The obvious places would be where the discs end
Pretty much the only male characters in 12 with good visual design are Vayne and to some extent Balthier
destructoid.com
He owns all his own music, Square has to ask him to use it
>DQ threads saying that Sugiyama's a xenophobe and wouldn't ever let the west have his music.
Except the time he's done exactly that.
youtube.com
But disc 3 was just the Northern Crater (story wise). That's not really that big for a final episode.
Unlike XIII, XIV 1.0, and XV, Square-Enix at least has the framework of an already good game to work with, so it shouldn't be that bad. Right?
Tiny Bronco is actually a really good place to end it at, Aerith's death is a lot closer to halfway through the story than you'd think.
>He owns all his own music
So? All that means is that Sakurai can ask him without having to deal with Square.
>except the time he's done exactly that
Do you have evidence that it was sugiyama and not just the localizers fucking up?
Uh, Cloud was basically tortured and experimented on underneath Nibelheim Manor for 4 years and was a mindbroken mess before his identity was mixed with Zacks. It makes perfect sense.
Better make it just 1 solid game then without the episodick bullshit
I honestly think there is a chance of that. It's taken forever to develope and they must have seen all the shit they got for that.
Big Black Chocobo
>[citation needed]
rpgsite.net
>But this wouldn't really be surprising either given that Cloud is already on the roster and there's speculation that Square-Enix is getting another character.
Except no other 3rd party character has gotten another character.
>If you looked at it completely in a vacuum and disregarded things like trying to give representation to Dragon Quest, the Square-Enix character that non-Japanese people are most likely to know about that isn't already in the game is Sephiroth.
True enough, but again that isn't the only factor here. Monster Hunter is fucking huge in Japan and yet Rathalos is the only representation it has.
Sephiroth is popular, no two ways around that, but there's too much getting in the way of his inclusion and why I feel someone like Tifa has a better chance.
Compromise is the keyword here.
>I'm not "devaluing" Tifa by acknowledging that she's less valuable an asset than Sephiroth.
I never said you were, just that I think you're putting too much value on factor instead of looking at them all
> highly doubt Sakurai and Nintendo are factoring in the "people who want to cum on their amiibos" audience.
user, how naive do you have to be to believe that?
>I think it's going to be a Dragon Quest character.
That has its own share of issues.
>If it's going to be another FF character it'd be a universal FF icon like a Black Mage or a Chocobo
Then why aren't either in already instead of Cloud?
>
If it's going to be an actual character, it'll either be another protagonist
Yeah, that's why I put most of my stock in Terra getting in.
> Tifa's not getting in
She has just as much going for as Sephiroth does
I was under the impression that Advent Children had Cloud as angsty because that was the popular depiction of Cloud at the time, not the other way around.
Based
I thought it was the space aids that was killing him.
VII did a pretty good job of giving each of the main characters an arc that defied your expectations (except Vincent, but hopefully that's improved in Remake). It's easy to believe that the MC is this super powered badass, but nope, it turns out he used to be one of those faceless goons you fight in the very beginning. That big Black guy with the machine gun arm who looks tough and speaks in ebonics is really a caring single father who lost his family in a tragic event. And the girl who wears skimpy clothes, works in a bar, and practices martial arts? She's shy, sweet, and dreams of being saved by her hero. Cait Sith's "death" at the Temple of Ancients is meant to evoke a "haha, you sure got me, Square! I should've known the game would never have the balls to kill off a main character!" reaction from the player just before Aerithsth's actual death.
It's really not hard to rewrite that so that he's still charismatic/heroic. He could be ignoring the space aids and not letting on that anythings wrong before it *has* to be brought up.
Friendly reminder that your waiting this entire time simply for Episode 1
>tfw your probably going to fucking die before Square finishes all the episodes
Squenix was working on the game alongside CC2 so they didn't just flat out lose 2 years of work. Here is what we OFFICIALLY know. Nomura said previous comments were untrue, meaning either they only lost a part of the work or they actually didn't lose any progress contrary to what you believe. SECOND, your comment is based on some "insider" who is friends with a guy who knows stuff. Yeah, that is always the most accurate info you can ever get right?
>So? All that means is that Sakurai can ask him without having to deal with Square.
It's funny how you think that helps DQ's chances. If that practice is already in place, then obviously Sugiyama isn't just going to let anyone use his music for anything.
>Do you have evidence that it was sugiyama and not just the localizers fucking up?
I know localizers can be fucking dumb, but come on.
What do you think they purposely fucked up the instrumentals because they were afraid Americans were afraid of orchestras?
doesn't sound too bad desu
It's from the dark horse Conan series, it's a mini comic within that has a mage fall on its own sword and Conan starts laughing.
Episodic content was revealed right after they planned on making it a mobile game and before they received a bunch of backlash. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped the episodic part and just made it one game but we will see.
It's going to be ass. They will try the real time/atb fusion like kingdom hearts that just doesnt fucking work. You cant have menus while action combat is happening, there's no time to scroll through spells and not get pummeled.
>Friendly reminder that your waiting this entire time simply for Episode 1
that's the worst part. Hopefully further episodes come out faster due to the engines, battle systems , and other shit already made so all they have to do is make the new monsters and models.
>You cant have menus while action combat is happening
It's worked for years user.
>there's no time to scroll through spells
They have shortcuts for a reason
>saying it just doesn't fucking work
>bringing up Kingdom Hearts
>a game where it fucking works
You are confusing me user.
FF7 remake believers = chads
FF7 remake denialists = nostalgiacuck virgins
Yeah that's what people want. Equip 10 materia and only shortcut 3.
You can have up to 12 spells in the shortcut menu in 3
What are you doing user?
Thinking this shit works is confusing. Maybe in 3 it does as I've not played it but the other games the shortcuts were nice but trying to page through equipped items while dodging a boss fight was more trouble than it was exciting.
See you in 365 days
Dude, its worked just fine for KH for well over a decade.
Even if FFVIIR for some reason doesn't use shortcuts for spells and stuff, if they just let you scroll through your menu with the right analog stick and select stuff with R3 like in the original PS2 version of KH1, everything would work just fine anyways.
Holy shit this looks terribly generic.
Item shortcuts have been available since KH2, not that they're necessary if you're good. From the attack command it's two dpad inputs plus two X inputs, with the game's fast menuing you can do it in half a second and it can also be buffered out of a combo.
user, even MMORPG's can be played just fine with a controller.
>I've not played it
Nevermind. I'm talking to someone who formulates opinions that they force onto others without actually basing those opinions on current knowledge and/or experience... KH3 was absolute dog shit, but in no way was it shit due to controls.
There's no way they're mapping camera controls to L2 and R2.
There are times when I see this clip and I ask myself if I even really want it
It'd be a smart alternate option at the very least, but yeah they probably won't use it, considering how its been long since abandoned in KH. I honestly miss using the right analog for menus in KH, it was fun to have a convenient way to quickly scroll through my menu, and have access to more than I would with just the shortcuts.
Hopefully they'll at least add some more shortcut buttons in FFVIIR, in KH they only give you 4, but since the d-pad is useless anyways while the shortcut menu is up, they might as well make it 8 by letting you set shortcuts to the d-pad as well as the face buttons.
KH3 did exactly what you just described.
Midgar is my favorite video game city of all time
M8 they let you use 12 in kh3
No it didn't, KH3 used only the four face buttons for shortcuts.
The KH combat is actually really well done, Im surprised that menu during real time combat actually works
As long as its not Crisis Core thou it should be fine, and Osaka team not involved even thou I think Tokyo team doesnt exists anymore
Wtf are you talking about, did I miss something when I played?
fucking retard
I'm not seeing the horror? What are seven seconds of gameplay supposed to look like if that looks generic? It looks fun to me. I like the weaves and lunges Cloud does.
I know for a fact it only used the four face buttons for shortcuts. Quit playing around, I will pop it into my PS4 and take screenshots of the shortcut menu if I need to.
When you hold L1 to use the shortcut menu, you can press the d-pad buttons to switch to different shortcut layouts.
Since there are 3 you can set up in the main menu, you can do as many as 12 different things
so a hapa
The remnants of Tokyo team made XV. They're not exactly perfect.
>The remnants of Tokyo team made XV
More like the type-0 team made XV with a handful of people from the tokyo team
I really hope they don't release it episodically. People would be able to finish each episode in a matter of hours if they know what they are doing.
im sure this game will get one of those shitty mobile versions like XV
OH shit, I never knew you could switch sets in battle. I thought you could only pick which set to use from the menu, I thought it was useless since I could just switch out certain spells instead of making entirely new sets.
Fuck I really limited myself then, no wonder why I had so much more trouble with the game than other people.
how does that differ from releasing the whole game at once?
Because an episode for someone who knows what they're doing would last a couple of hours.
I don't understand why that's even a point of discussion.
Games by and large don't need separate disks anymore to tell a complete story, a competent dev team knows how to trim the fat and tell a story within a single game
Why does Square feel the need to squeeze in details for the most insignificant shit in a game?
There is literally no reason for VII to be episodic
Fuck, I decided to look into what team was handling FFVII Remake. I should just give up hope now that it will be redeemable. Division 1 fuckoffs aka the fuckers that made the XIII trilogy...
>Why does Square feel the need to squeeze in details for the most insignificant shit in a game?
To make more money.
Wouldn't it be easier to just make a good game instead?
Why spend tons of budget to make a single good game when you could make a mediocre game and split it up into episodes to make more profit?
...
Yes you kissed the fucking menu screens and l1 button m8
I love when games combine eastern and western aesthetics. Like Cloud and Sephiroth are based on those two samurai and Shinra has Japanese text everywhere but its fucking New York with pizza jokes everywhere. That and the future and fantasy setting. It gives it this timeless feel.
I'd honestly be happy with a story about just these five characters in the city.
I loved Cait Sith and almost cried when he died. I grew up with tuxedo catsand I still have one.
Him being a toy is still weird to me because I always thought he was a real cat before the reveal...so in my memories he's still a cat.
List 10 RPG games that look/play like this.
Midgard was amazing. If they focus all their budget time and energy into a Midgard the size of a full game it could be something really special.
Then all that effort could be put into the open world and everything else for the next game.
I mean if Square doesn't fuck it all up somehow. It needs a lot of the originals charm though, it wasnt just a futuristic city, it had weird fucking monsters and a cute cat playgroundm
Visually speaking its just a fucking boring ass city.
What the fuck does that have to do with that gameplay clip?
Don't get my hopes you you fuck.
Was Tifa a paedophile?
I hate how they want each FF game to be it's own mini series so much that the focus is mainly on how much they can shit out for one game instead of wether or not it's good let alone complete
Post yfw the remake includes a 3-hour fmv of Tifa getting violently gangbanged by Sephiroth and Genesis in the Nibelheim mansion library while cucked Cloud is trapped in a Mako tube and forced to watch.
Yes
it will be an action/rpg but will also have turnbased option you can turn on.
>but thats impossibru
the game is in 3d, its not hard to have a team go back through the game and add a planner system that makes everyone stand in formation, freeze the camera in place when combat ensues and use a menu system
Not him, but it literally looks like KH/XV or any standard hack and slash with Cloud as the MC.
From what I heard they ditched the episodic stuff.
The game will be a single game
I kinda think it's too simplistic to compare Midgar to New York even though I know the creators have drawn the comparison before. Midgar is such a unique thing with the stacked plates and the bulbous power plants, the mixture of technology and old world architecture. Hell one of the most iconic scenes in FFVII is Cloud staring down the tower, as if the city itself is an antagonist.
honestly my 2nd favorite video game city is probably Valua from Skies of Arcadia... and that's probably only because it kinda reminds me of Midgar
FFVII unironically has a better story, world and characters than all the other Final Fantasies combined so it makes sense they'll want to flesh it out rather than make hit and miss polished turds like ffxv.
I liked Lightning Returns combat, but I played that shit so long ago I dont have that much of a accurate fond memory of it, I just remember it being more bearable than the other two. have no clue if these guys could pull off ARPG KH like combat thou
>it will be an action/rpg but will also have turnbased option you can turn on.
So what you're suggesting is they literally make two different games based on same general story?
Whoa whoa whoa, I like FFVII too, but let's not get crazy here.
Likewise, don't act like the garbage new games are a proper gauge for the rest of the franchise.
Everything will unfold the same way, just they will implement code that removes your ability to run around, places the enemies and you, in traditional formation, fixes the camera on you and you fight via menu.
>ARPG MODE: run towards enemies fight slash them up while running around
>RPG MODE: run towards enemy, rpg battle mode intiates
I think I tried the demo and liked the combat, but the EXTREME linearity and horrible story from the first game turned me off from the series. I did try maybe an hour of the second game and wasn't sold on that either so I didn't give the series a second chance. I did try to play the first 3 times so people definitely can't accuse me of not giving it a chance, and I might even try a 4th time in the future and just bum rush it. I'm trying to beat all the main FF games that I haven't yet, and XIII will probably be at the end of the list.
There are only 3 KH games with command menu combat (4 if you count a demo).
>XV
Plays completely different from KH and what we've seen of FF7R. That's as silly as saying Mario and Metroid are the same style of platforming since they're by the same company.
Has FF7 aged well?
I guess?
I mean if they actually I guess I wouldn't mind and would even understand if that's what's been taking them so goddamn long.
I don't think that is the case, but maybe.
i can't wait for square enix next abortion. the definition of going from soul to soulless
they are that retarded
I highly doubt what that user is saying will become true, but look at Ni no Kuni and Dragon Quest XI. Its been done in the past, but the west doesn't tend to get both versions, and arguably we tend to get the inferior version only.
this was the last true great FF game. 7 was shit, 8 was okay, 10 and onward was trash.
is there a more based man? why isn't he fucking CEO
>Plays completely different from KH and what we've seen of FF7R
user, don't pretend like it's that different, which is besides the point anyway
Point is. FF7RE looks like a generic hack and slash with Cloud and Berret glued onto it. FF7 being an ARPG doesn't feel right and reeks of pandering. I hope something like this user says
But I wouldn't get my hopes up
And like this user said on pure aesthetic level, there's something about that Midgar that looks too clean
>but look at Ni no Kuni and Dragon Quest XI.
Not really the same thing, but it at least proves there's potential options which is a good thing.
I'm kind of hyped for the ARPG mode if I can manually aim barrets gun arm.
I will main that BBC fucker
Yes
It was so much fun replaying IX on steam. I did way more in the steam versions than I ever did on the psx ones, I got all the cards in 8, did all the chocobo stuff in 9, it was so much fun.
Fuck you, X and XII were great
XV
>Can have 99 of each item in combat
>Can use item at 0 HP
>Attack by holding O and holding the analog stick in random directions to swing somewhat differently, or fly around in different directions midair
>Dodge by holding square to have infinite I-frames as long as your MP lasts
>Summons are random cinematic attacks
>Block by pressing square when it flashes on your screen
KH
>Can only carry about 6 items maximum with you into combat
>When you hit 0 HP you die
>Attack by pressing X and pressing Square at certain timings to go into new combos (if you have those abilities equipped)
>Summons are field supporters you can use whenever you want (in exchange for 3 Drive gauge)
>Dodge by pressing square while moving to do a roll that has limited I-frames
>Block by just pressing square while standing still
They are two entirely different games. You haven't played them or are too inexperienced with action games to tell the difference. FF7R doesn't look like a generic hack and slash because it uses command menu and you can see summons in the HUD, it's clearly a revival of what Versus XIII was going to be gameplay wise.
was Genesis supposed to be diet/velvet cake Sephiroth or something?
X is good for 1 playthrough but then its boring. XII was the beginning of no return (abandoning turn based deep mechanics for casual action based combat). 13 was absolute garbage "action" based turn based shit. 15 was complete fucking garbage.
I'm not reading any of that because I really don't give a fuck and misses the point of my post entirely.
>FF7R doesn't look like a generic hack and slash because it uses command menu
>it doesn't look generic because it uses a fucking command menu
...just stop
I'm being dead serious. There's something magical about the quality of Final Fantasy VII and the combination of music, story, setting, that feel when you first enter the world map, the way you genuinely feel attached to characters. No other FF accomplishes that.
Tell me this doesn't hit you right in the feels: youtu.be
It would be like if Konami remade MGS1 for the PS4/PS5. It would be absolute soulless garbage. See this pic related game? That is your FFVII Remake only it'll take another 10 years. it'll be made by people who had NOTHING to do with the original dev team.
Besides it being way easier, and the karate flip over the door. The game was pretty great.
Unfortunately they remade it like 2 years after it came out, so now even the remake looks like poopie
BASED FF7 remake chad BTFO nostalgiacucks
>The game was pretty great.
no it wasn't. It has MGS2 first person mechanics and you could cheese the entire game. the voice actor changing, lines missing. Stop being a faggot. It was absolute dog shit.
>FF7 Concert in June
>Square conference the next day
>People think we'll see FF7 tomorrow and not in June
>No argument
Yet another retard talking shit about games he hasn't played bites the dust, I humbly accept your concession.
>that image
I can see I'll get nowhere talking to you
Fuck off
Notice the R1+L1 next to "command", there are likely multiple pages of commands like in KH2 and R1 or L1 switch between them.
Gameplay kino is back on the menu.
I'll agree that there's something magical about FFVII.
I also tend to think that Square accidentally stumbled into that magic and are completely incapable of recapturing it
Collecting materia and combining it was the thing that hooked me the most on FF7.
I fucking LOVE materia.
Is there some event or junket tomorrow?
Sony State of Play
In other words I wouldn't go expecting anything
Shinji Hashimoto retweeted State of Play
>I also tend to think that Square accidentally stumbled into that magic and are completely incapable of recapturing it
This. Same with Konami and Silent Hill.
I've been wrong before about something showing up, but this time I'm 90% sure it will show.
Why it makes sense for me:
- The Tweets
- Chocobo picture with cloud
- Nomura said earlier this year that FF7R would be shown on numerous events leading up to E3.
It's not that much too go on obviously, but I feel like this is it guys. The comment from Nomura has been stuck in my mind ever since he told that, and I've been waiting literally every day for something. So I think this is finally it.
But.. You never know with this Squeenix ofc.
If something is announced though, I'm sure it'll be a teaser for something bigger which will be at E3 just to hype people up. But yeah.. Let's see guys!
bros...
Golden Saucer...
All minigames have online mode.
>chocobo race against real people with your suped up hotrod of a inbred chocobo
>can bet gp
I dunno user, we've been down this road before.
As neat as FF7RE news would be.
funniest thread on v
The reason why Konami can never recapture silent hill is that the reason they accidentally stumbles upon it was by not giving a shit about what they did. Once it got popular Konami executives fucking ruined it. Not sure if something similar happened to FF7.
It's that 90's anime aesthetic. So much of FF7 was good because the time it wa released. Everything was grungydirty andficking 90s as shit.
Because soul motherfucker.
Pretty much. And Square are too cowardly to actually make something like that again
Midgar is supposed to be a dirty city and source of corruption that is literally sucking the planet dry of life
And here it just looks like any average city.
You saw a build from 5 years ago you absolute TWAT
And you expect it to change that drastically?
He was just Gackt. That's it.
Yes, yes I do.
Good to know, you're a retard
To be fair Nomura is coming back to direct it. I really enjoyed his most recent game. Whatever you think about Kingdom Hearts III it did have great art direction for the most part. Scala Au Calum, what we saw of Twilight Town (that comfy ass theater man), Hercs world and ToyStory and PotC were memorable to me too. I think he can definitively understand FF7's original atmosphere.
But this guy also did Verum Rex, I think he did 15 too right? And those are just boring compared to FF7. I can't remember was Advent Children shit for a super clean atmosphere too because he did that as well.
its literally 3 minutes long with NO NAMINE ON SCREEN idiot, fucking optional luna scenes have her onscreen the whole time
>To be fair Nomura is coming back to direct it.
First of all no, FF7RE got a new director after KH3
Second of all fuck off with this KH3 shilling, I didn't like KH3.
Third what does fake Versus XIII have to do with anything?
> And those are just boring compared to FF7
Yes it is. Because FFVII is supposed to be fucked up, a dying earth brought upon by man's hubris.
>I can't remember was Advent Children shit for a super clean atmosphere too because he did that as well.
From what I remember it was kinda dirty? Too clean for my taste, it at least got the whole wasteland thing down.
You're a moron, I don't care about your opinion.
seething nomura fag
according to japans top games of the heisei era the 3 most favorite FFs in Japan are 7, 10 and 15
Screentime is irrelevant to being a love interested seeing as you defend KH and older FFs where characters have far less screentime and interaction
Right back at you buddy