No Draphs

Cant wait to play as Box

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Granblue has at best one or two popular graphs, humans are the most popular race. Still a shame about everything else.

Aren't the cds there since you don't use bar for anything other than super moves?
Instead of using bar for both supers and some special moves

The game didn't die though, development was stopped because the studio was hired out by Riot, one of the biggest game companies in the world. Sounds pretty successful to me.

Friendly reminder that Arcsys practically disbanded Team Red and basically killed GGXrd before they were finished with Rev2 just so they could shill their graphics on other, more popular franchises for quick and easy shekels.

Anyone who supports Arcsys games after the BBCTB fiasco and the leak that explained why Daisuke hasn't had any statements on GG for a whole year is a mindless NPC who doesn't care about actual integrity in a company.

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>No Draphs

DLC

Play Street Fighter V aka best e-sports fighting instead, you scrubs.

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RT was alive than any other fighting game at the time outside of USF4. It was shut down due to Riot buy out, please stop your dumb revisionist bullshit

>No source
>Literally who
Wow so credible

Leaked Footage of GBFVS
embed.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34474153?ap=1

>no source
wow

On the other hand something along these lines probably did happen

Still no result from that buyout yet.

>Believing a random anonymous shitpost
Why is Yea Forums so utterly fucking stupid?

SFV is the most boring fighting game of all time

>March 2018
That was pre Evo. During Evo, ASW president already assured that Daisuke was working on a new GG.

"Yea Forums culture" dictates that shitposting is more important than actual discussion

>tfw that League of Legends fighting game finally comes out and you get to absolute body MOBA babies who will have no teammates to blame for their ass whooping

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Who knows or cares what happened to it at this point. Riot I’m sure quietly canceled the project since there’s no way, even working from scratch we wouldn’t have heard or seen something by now.

>implying
It'll be full of degenerate comeback mechanics just like LoL itself

RETARD ALERT

gematsu.com/2018/08/new-guilty-gear-title-in-development

>it's a post on Yea Forums so it must be true guys!
retard
> Daisuke hasn't had any statements on GG for a whole year
except that he was the one that confirmed that there would be a new GG in an interview way back last year and that during the EVO stage a representative also mentioned that he was absent cause he was busy working on something GG related

>Like the design of some champions but can't stand mobas.

I can't wait.

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You just know Mori and Daisuke did corporate espionage when they did the visit to Riot HQ

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no PC
no interest

>Cygames
>ArcSys
99.9% PC release guaranteed

>>No Draphs
I don't know anything about GBF and even i can tell that's bullshit.

>would like to get more invested in gbf to be ready for the fighter
>dont want to play mobage
Oh well

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>Some Riot tranny faggots get to see based Daisuke and hear his godlike guitar riffs.
>I will never be able to see him live ever because I live in Florida and anyone who's sane will never visit this hell hole willfully.

PUT THE FISH IN

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>No draphs

How do you even know? Was the full roster released?

Rising Thunder's cooldowns were basically meaningless. Most were so short that they'd recover well before you'd need/want to use it again, and some like whatsherface's fireball would instantly recover if it hit (making it a zoning tool with more risk-reward as a result).

>Selectable skills like selectable gems from SFxT

What a bullshit comparison.

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People are just speculating that pic related is the full rooster which means one (male) draph

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The only Draph in the logo is Vaseraga. Considering how slow news is coming out it's pretty easy to figure that the logo roster is all we're getting.

>implying a Riot Fighting game wouldn't be a 3-player tag fighter JUST for shitters to blame their teammates for missing their team combos

The gacha players are gonna bully us

What is the skill system?

I honestly think it's dead but I'd love to do that as well. Similar reason to why I want to play this game, to beat up some whaling addicts.

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Post waifus. I must judge the game on its truest metrics.

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Wait for relink I guess and listen to the OST
youtube.com/watch?v=3u2mtDpuZu4
youtube.com/watch?v=Sn8yInYg0vs
youtube.com/watch?v=e7YmF0TGNs4
youtube.com/watch?v=1-qY_sPTI_o
youtube.com/watch?v=-vQwyrwSyCI
youtube.com/watch?v=KwEDkiHI2UI
youtube.com/watch?v=J-xth-5G1Mc

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Think about how easily you fell for an anonymous post, did no research of your own, and started regurgitating this shit and realise who the fucking NPC is here.

Was Yoda the first bouncing around midget swordmaster? I really like that design.

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I want to fuck that box

League of fighters was an interesting project. It was made by some LoLplayers who were also into fighting games. It was a low budget fan game made as a passion project that also used skill cooldowns. Dev team even got FGC peoole like Chris G to playtest it and give feedback. It died same time as Rising Thunder.

It's all true, I taught Daisuke everything he knows when he was a youth in South Africa so I'd know.

>not maining Katalina (Alter)

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>They didn't even give us the actual Dark Katalina skin with the coat
fuck you

I'd actually really like tag fighter where there are 3 players on each side. Would help convince my friends to finally get into fighters.

Some games like DBFZ have it as a feature but I want it to be the main mode

cooldowns is definitely the buzzword for this game, like gems, functions
it seems like no one can explain how it's inherently a bad system though, or how it's 'casual' despite being an additional four meters to keep track of

>selectable skills
>cooldowns

So its different and therefore shit?
Cooldowns on skills is just another resource to manage. Pretty much all fighting games have resource management.

I prefer brunette Ferry

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>>Selectable skills like selectable gems from SFxT
What? You just have your moves up top, nothing has said you can change them

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Is this game indicative of ArcSys casualizing their products all around?

post more potatoes

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that thing will have so many comeback mechanics that it will probably fuck the fighting game genre just like how LOL and DOTA fucked the RTS genre

Yes. This, FZ, BBTAG paint a dark picture for GG.

The client company always has the final say on the direction of the game. Atlus did so for Persona, Bamco for DBFZ and Cygames for GBV.

>No draphs
Time to s____ u_ the Platinum office gamers

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Charlotta was the main reason I started playing Granblue. The Harvins are cute.

Explain babytag then

Not made by Team Red

ArcSys is paid to make the game the client company wants. Bamco, Atlus and CyGames have the final saying on the design

The developers are still the ones that choose how they execute those demands.

>Selectable skills like selectable gems from SFxT
I swear it's like none of you ever even saw what SFxT looks like with how frequently someone compares something totally inaccurate to SFxT gems.

SFxT gems didn't change your moveset or how your character worked, they were all star boosts or easy mode gems. Also they didn't suck because they let you customize your character, they sucked because they didn't change your character at all, the effects were single use and temporary, and the DLC gems were flat out pay to win improvements of the gems that exist in the game. Stop calling everything SFxT gems because it makes you look like an idiot.

>Mori
There's your answer

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If anyone wants to try out Rising Thunder this is the build they released
drive.google.com/file/d/1jVqr9gKyfIbPCm93iYWMCikhBfZe1OPp/view

Very obviously unfinished, but gives you an idea how a game like this could work. Personally I think the project and anything related was entirely abandoned. Would be pretty stupid to work on something for months, then basically give the competition all your prior work as you move onto a similar project.

It depends on how the client wants them though. Its all on the specifications. If the client wants a game thatbborrows heavily from the gacha game with skill cooldowns, ArcSys has no say on that

The funniest was with MvCi, where people only made the comparison cause both were shiny rocks.

it IS meant for casuals. But it doesn't matter because cygames has infinite money to put into it for esports shit lmao
Literally EVERYONE is going to play this game when they see the amount of money cygames will shill out for prizes

don't bother user, Yea Forums doesn't play fighting games.
unless they're namedropping 3s for e-cred or whatever.

>Street Fighter V
EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWW

>No Draphs
Pretty sure Vaseraga was confirmed though

No Draph no buy

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This. Will literally bankroll all FGC events moving forward

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Would be fun to see how many will finally drop SFV.

>No draphs
Game's shit and it will be until they put one in.

>Rapist (of men and women)
>Cool

Wtf is a draph and why is it so important

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>Cooldowns on specials like LoL
>Selectable skills like selectable gems from SFxT

That's because they're based on base Granblue? Where skills have CDs across the board and using those skills at the right moments defines combat?

I'll only play if they have a playable Yordle

the female Draphs are shorty cowgirls with enormous breasts regardless of age.

surprised?...

I'm surprised the western FGC hasn't caught onto it yet. Like if I was anyone with any clout I'd be sucking of cygames for the chance to get a commentary gig

Only interested if it has GGPO

Midgets with big breasts

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This is just about as credible as all the smash leaks and grinch. You are basically fucking retarded if you believe even a word of it.

Titty monsters, females at least

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really short girls with horns and giant milkers

street fighter 5 more like indian streets fighter 5 'cause it's all shit

Yoda was annoying as fuck but at least Box is cute.

The second one isn't true far as we know.

Cooldowns have weird implications for a fighter, locking you out of moves for a resource you can't really control takes some control away from the player. So if someone does a move twice, you might be only able to punish it once which could get annoy. From the looks of that trailer though it might end up being more of an aesthetic thing, moves such as Katalina's DP refilled almost instantly. Which is also kind of how it worked in Rising Thunder.

There are 3 other issues this system presents. One, that it appears you only get one ex moves, two every character is limited to 4 moves and three you only get one strength of each moves. None of these are deal breakers but they do reduce how many aspects the game has going on. So if you wanted to zone you wouldn't be able to mix up the speed of your fireballs. Unless other mechanics are introduced to fill this gap.

I wont blame them because Cygames is a relatively unknown developer in the west. They only ever had traction with Shadowverse and recently with Dragalia Lost, but thats mostly because of the Nintendo partnership initially. Plus, there's a really common miaconception that succesful gacha devs are just some mid budget organization when in fact they're some of the most lucrative studios around, even more so than developers for console games

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Games like this are made with fans of the IP in mind first and fans of fighting games second, so I'd say no. If ArcSys are really interested in dumbing down all their games a lot, I'd say it won't be apparent until the next GG, which we already know will be simpler, but not to what extent.

No, retard

Does J. Wong count?

>No Draphs
>No Draphs

Guess I am not buying the game then.

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Because a good chunk of the Western FGC figureheads and commentators are honestly pretty dumb when it comes to expanding their prospects. I think Jiyuna and MajinObama were the only ones who started rubbing elbows with Cygames as early as 2017 for Shadowverse commentary to build up that portfolio. Too bad Jiyuna got banned from Shadowverse commentary because he called one of the decks at the event, retarded in stream.

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It's made for retarded gachacucks after all.

He does actually, he's been asked to do some Shadowverse stuff.

I don't think there is anything Justin doesn't shill so he doesn't count.

Loli's tits too big

How do we know there are no draphs

>ArcSys fighting game uses Rising Thunder mechanics
YES

To be fair, Starforged Legends era Aggro Sword IS retarded, he's not wrong, but he forgot he was doing E-Sports commentary.

Funny thing, I recently booted up SFxT with some friends recently and I was able to get through maybe 2 matches before realizing it let us play without gems. I can't remember was that always a thing with local, or did that come with some update that flew by everybody?

I think that misconception is finally dying with FGO being the most profitable game, which says a lot about the game industry. Maybe people want to ignore that fact.

You shouldn’t take your facts about games from shitposting threads on Yea Forums.

We have no idea the full roster but 10 characters from the title art and people are jumping to the conclusion that that’s all there is. Plus one of them is a Draph being Vaseraga. I’m sure a Naru and maybe more will be in the game as well

We don't OP is just an anti-shill

Honestly I think cooldowns on the "better" special moves wouldn't change that much. You already experience the same with stuff like Ultra and V-trigger in the SF fight. Once the meter fills up (which is inevitable since its bound to taking damage), their reportoire of moves change, which becomes something you have to account for as a player.

In the same way, CD:s just means that you as a player will just play around their access to certain moves. It increases/decreases the risk associated with certain plays, which will create a less stagnant game flow as your options will ebb and flow situationally (for comparison, the grid in UNIST does something similar).

But basically I don't think it would change that much compared to the basic fighting game formula. Like I said, a majority of fighting games already have resource management.

You s󠛡oy boys weren't gonna play for more than a week anyway

More like no female draphs

I don’t know about the lore of Granblue since I just jerk off to the porn, so correct me if I’m wrong but there is a Draph, but it’s a male.

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Lot of the western FGC still has that capcom or nothing mentality. Even NRS players who have such a direct line to a company that does give out so much money drop their games after a year.I guess it is changing somewhat now, but the FGC really has odd priorities. I'd say Cygames still needs to prove itself in the FGC, but they've been throwing in money for like 4 years now? If GBV doesn't take off they are just going to throw money in till it does, pocket change for them would be life changing in the FGC.

judging from the screens of gameplay we have right now and the "DELAY 1" written near a nickname, i want to believe this is ggpo and not in-house netcode. however, we don't know for certain just yet.

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Oof rough perception

Was anyone?

>arcshit
Lol

Perspective *

>ArcSys caring about their western fanbase
Good one

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>cooldowns
I still signed up for the beta but damn I was afraid of that

Cygames is being extremely stupid.
There is nothing to be gained from traditional videogames; the money and the future of the videogame industry is on mobile and gacha. They should use their money to strengthen their position on the mobile market instead of wasting it on projects like anime, the fighting game or the action game.

Retards.

Oh shit it could be ggpo couldn’t it. Damn considering this is a slower paced game too you wouldn’t have to worry about balls to the walls teleports all over and random hits. ASW in the past said they might experiment on the idea I think and Granblue versus would be a perfect fit to try it out.

I just hope it’s good rollback though cause sfv taught me that if you can’t do rollback right don’t ever do it at all and stick to frame delay.

go do your dailies gachafag

Why is Saber a halfling?

>their reportoire of moves change, which becomes something you have to account for as a player.
With vtrigger yes, but a lot of people dislike that whole system. SFV gets accused of "locking moves up" quite a bit.

Meter is a tricky one, cause it is kinda true but also not. If you lack meter you can still do a version of a special, so it is only the properties of a super you lack. Which is generally a trade off for the strengths that move has like invincibility. Though you do also get ex moves that change a move in really significant ways, like the trajectory of a fireball. So it does kind of fit. There is also kind of a difference between taking action to build and manage meter, and simply waiting to have access to a move.

I think my problem comes in with a situation where after punishing someone (especially for sloppy play), they can just repeat their action while I can't repeat the punish. That can exist with something like meter, SFV even fucks this up again as many DPs aren't invincible without meter. But the best scenario is you can normally deal with stuff and a resource allows you to do it better. That can be done with CD but i can see people getting frustrated that the reason they couldn't deal with something better isn't in their control.

>RT cooldowns
Who didn't see this shit coming? All I can say is I hope this shit doesn't actually bleed into future guilty gear or blazblue games.

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I've never played a mobile game and still I can see the writing in the wall.
Cygames is pursuing a false god.

Why are people so assblasted about CDs? Not like you won't be able to attack at all. Use your moves wisely or whiff and get punished hard

It won't

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Except they've realized the best way to keep a gacha game afloat is to market in places besides gacha in order to stabilize the IP.

Vas is in buddy

also nice taste

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>There is nothing to be gained from traditional videogames
Expand notoriety to people who normally wouldn't play (I've heard so many people say they picked up GBF cause one of the console games interested them) and cause everyone wants some of that esports pie. At the very worst they get their money back + profit by sticking a code in the box for a costume.

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>No Draphs
What's the goddamn point then?

So if they DID add a female draph who would it be? Narmaya?

Because a nice thing about fighting games is having the majority of your moves on demand instead of waiting around.

I like how we know basically nothing about how cooldowns work but we're complaining anyways. Haha, its fun.

Read the thread

>No draphs
What about my dick?!

Are you daft?

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something something excuse to post draphs

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Either her or the second most popular draph, Anila, who already makes fighting game references in her attacks.

They’d have to add Drang too, you can’t have one without the other

Sturm will be DLC as a duo unit and you know it.

>The Granblue fighter is casual shit and dead on arrival
That's every game by Nu-arcsys nowadays, Just look at BB tag

who expected it not to be casual shit?

Your first day here?

>That's why it closed down because it was so cool

yes unironically
it was so cool that riot games bought it so they could sell it as a lol fighting game

Reminder that this game will bomb and the only good fighting games are those with complex inputs like Melty and SF.

Please do not support arcsys or french bread.

You can do that with normal marketing, not with something as expensive as a fucking videogame project.
Why are Cygames' shareholders okay with that? I would veto that shit in no time

Boy you are retarded

They have 3 games in top 10 revenue of mobile games in japan
Do you really think they don't have money to spare

Last year alone they sponsored almost every single fighting game tournament out there

The video game isn't being paid for in its entirety by them, that's not how licensing deals work.

Second, it's a different type of marketing. You get people whose brains naturally block out "mobile game" to pay attention to your brand.

>smash specials

i'm actually ok with this

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>quarter-circles and shoryukens
>complex

Smash doesn't have cooldowns

French breade made melty you dummy

BBtag is actually great.

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I'd hope Sarasa will be playable but it's extremely unlikely because I'll be surprised in future dlc and so on they'll go past two eternal really. I mean Siete will obviously be the first either in the base game or in the game's first batch of dlc 100%. And I'm pretty sure everyone's fine with that since Siete is a good boy and doesn't deserve to be friendless. On top of being the actual leader and face of the Eternals.

Though who would everyone wish that the second eternal would be? I know it's obviously going Song, but I can at least have fun pretending it could be not the most boring choice out of them all.

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Haven't heard a fucking peep out of them since. They're all just scrapped and spread around LoL itself.

Also fantasy strike does the same thing and it seems to be even less remembered than an actually canned game.

Fundamentally, there's no difference between a normal button and a special button. It's simply that the more "special" moves such as shoryuken are traditionally locked behind a harder input rather than a single button press. Some fighting games can also have rules for which moves can combo into each other while others do not

For instance, Elena in SFIV was a fine zoner even though she mostly just used normal buttons. You don't need a special move to throw projectiles to be a zoner. Meanwhile, characters like Lambda-11 threw projectiles with her normal buttons.

Like, your best punish does not necessary need a special move. It's likely since a special move tend to have a "high damage property", but your best punish could also be a heavy punch.

Looks good

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Its fun but everyone here is in super tryhard mode so no one will agree with you.

It's the perfect game for Yea Forums, just like this one. I don't know why anybody here pretends to be above either.

Siete's voice actor (Junichi Suwabe who is Claw in SF) tweeted immediately that he wants to be /in/, so he's likely

Is the roster out already? 2 of the most popular characters are draphs so this doesn't make sense.

Yes.

They could easily be launch DLC though.

It isn't
All there is to go by is the logo

>It's the perfect game for Yea Forums,
But Yea Forums sucks

Don't lie to me
Kay

The jews always know
twitter.com/Floejisan/status/1126185458310893569

They aren't jews who just hoard money and give out scraps once in a while like you western kikes.

lol
KMR-san knows exactly what he is doing,

>Only draph is a barafag in armor
>Only Harvin is an annoying cunt

>casual
good. no smelly fgc negroids there to ruin the fun

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Exactly. They can barely play babytag properly without kicking and screaming. Cooldown Fantasy will probably still be too hard and they'll find some way to blame it on the game not being accessible enough.

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This I didn't even know they had 3 mobile games and yet I'm looking forward to this and the RPG.

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ryu throws a fireball in literally any street fighter game, he now has at least two options (actually more but I'm trying to keep this simple)
>throw another fireball, which will generally lose to the other player jumping or doing another anti projectile move, but will win or be neutral with pretty much anything else
>don't throw another fireball and attempt to counter the other persons attempt to counter the fireball (such as doing a shoryuken to hit him out of the air when he tried to jump a fireball that never came out)

meanwhile when anime gatcha man throws a fireball in this game, he does not have the option to throw another fireball because it's on a cooldown, his potential followups are reduced by one and as a result the number of potential counter moves the other player has to think of is also reduced.

the game is objectively simplified as a result, and this is one of the most basic elements of a fighting game there is, I could go on with tons of more elaborate examples.

>he thinks the casuals won't get stomped since everything is even easier
Veterans will play, user

>her not wearing her armor
>in a ps4 only game
lol

God I love Apollo. Wish they just gave her more love in side events and so on. More light hearted stuff with her and Orchid would be appreciated. Here’s hoping she’ll be in versus

The only draph that matters.

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Grancucks btfo phahahaha

Jokes on you, I love women in armor.

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In RT the cooldown on certain moves change depending if its on hits/block/whiff

wish people would stop overanalyzing everything from like 15 seconds of gameplay footage

we're going to get actual footage within the coming days probably, be patient and we'll see how this cooldown stuff turns out

any cooldown more than "as soon as the move's recovery is over you can do another one again" will suffer from this problem.

the main thing that makes fighting games hard for new players isn't the inputs, its that people aren't predictable and there are a ton of moves people can potentially throw at any given time. knowing what options someone could theoretically hit you with at any given time/spacing is half the fight. by introducing move cooldowns (that are super obvious on the screen) you are broadcasting that you have only so many options you could do.

She's gonna wear her helmet as well.

This, it'll probably be too short to do anything but be a rough visual indicator of then your recovery frames end/fireball is off screen and you can move again.

The helmet will work like Ky from GG or just be an easy alt. As in knock her down a certain amount of times and the helmet will get knocked off

No Narmaya, no buy.

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I'm still wishing for Alliah to be an SSR soon, just cause I know she and Apollo will guaranteed to be at each other's throats even though they're on the same team now. So basically if you have both of them in a party they would have unique voice lines just straight up dissing or backhanded complements the entire time.

I just like my women in knight armor.

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Even better

>throw another fireball
But it isn't like he can do this instantly, there is recovery and you usually can't have a stream on screen at the same time. From what we have seen, Katalina's DP recovers before she even lands. It is logical to assume then the other moves work in a similar way.

So it isn't throw then wait 3 seconds for another one, the cooldown is basically just visualising your recovery frames

HEY! here, please dont lump me with the others, i wasnt even planning on buying the game, hell! I dont even play GBF.

Katalina is the beginner character so it makes sense.

Not that guy, but did you feel it was important enough to differentiate yourself from the rest of those anons? Was getting called a onions boy matted that much to you?

Not really worth it anyway. They started banning people for using UI and QoL enhancements, so it's painfully tedious to play until the devs actually fix shit on their side.

Who cares?

Katalina has 2 of the same icons in her load out that are a lunging attack but one acts as a regular special and the other as an EX. While in Lancelot's "loadout" he seems to have different 2 EX moves and not dupe icons. Maybe you select skills before the match and can select if you want a normal/EX variant (with much longer CD for balance) on it?

Cute girls.

Considering it's a Granblue game but with actually gameplay this time, I'll check it out.

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I just want a new mainline BB or GG game that hopefully won't get dumbed down or simplified to appeal to a playerbase that won't stick around for more than a week.

Is Almeida in?

Do you get to violate the girl after beating her?

Literally Leo from Xrd

It's true.

bump

>everyone except for Lancelot shown so far seemed barely affected by the cooldowns
>Lancelot was getting raw fucked with pretty much every special on cooldown in the trailer
>Lowain's item shit and 3 amigos bullshit will probably have longer cooldowns as well
I hope they give an idea of what the timers will be like on the other character reveals going forward, I wanna see if the simple fundies chars will pretty muh always have their toys

It does change how I thought a lot of stuff would work. Like in the Lowain trailer he does an ex move where both his friends leap in one on the ground and the other jumping. I figured you'd get 2 variants + ex, with the normal variants only being one friend coming in and the ex combining it. But if you only have one non-ex version it does limit the move set a bit

Like I said in it seems like your specials will have variants and that'll affect how the moves CD will be.

>The Granblue fighter is casual shit
People drop fighting games exactly because they're too hardcore and complex. Nothing wrong with being casual so fans of Granblue can just play it and have fun without sitting 200hrs in training mode learning matchups. There's plenty of hardcore and dead fighting games like Xrd so it's not like we need another one.

How's BBTag doing? I hear that game is very easy to pick up and has awesome cool characters like Ruby. It must be pretty popular, right?

>People drop fighting games exactly because they're too hardcore and complex.
I don't think that really stacks up. Tekken is known for being hard, overly so which makes getting good a real pain. Yet T7 is one of the few fighters that is gaining entrants, and is also a popular game with casual. Meanwhile games like DBFZ, SFV and BBtag all see drop off.

>a weird crossover litearlly nobody asked for
Hm, I wonder what went wrong.

Rising thunder 2.0

It's fucking dead on PC, no idea how it's going on the basedstation.
Tekken 7 is one of the easiest tekken's in order to get into the bare minimum, even Tarada said they made it easier, he's talking about games like Xrd and BBCF, not DBFZ and BBTAG which are also casual as hell.
SFV is just trash.

rising thunder was actually a good game, this going to be some brain dead autocombo trash

>Tekken 7 is one of the easiest tekken's
Yet it is still incredibly complex. When Tekken 8 removes KBD and makes ewgfs a single button press you'll have a point.

>DBFZ and BBTAG which are also casual as hell.
Yet those games are doing terribly this year. Which goes against his whole point

They've said that they're going for SF2- style gameplay, so it might end up being similar to Rising Thunder

Nigger go look at xrd and fucking bbcf or unist and compare, complex fast paced fighters sell like shit, Tekken 7 is alright but it's the MOST CASUAL ENTRY IN THE FRANCHISE and not even close to the level of something like BB.
BBTAG is dead on pc but I really don't know why, heard the online was fucked since day one though.

Don't forget massive censorship due to being on a SNOY console.

praise him

>fast paced fighters sell like shit
DBFZ is fast paced and sold well. It just couldn't maintain players despite being incredibly casualised

>Tekken 7 is alright but it's the MOST CASUAL ENTRY IN THE FRANCHISE
Okay I get you are special and can't into nuance but you should be able to get this one. You keep pushing this (mostly cause one autistic guy from /fgg/ pushed it everywhere), but that doesn't change it is a very complex game. Some aspects made easier does not automatically mean a game is casual, this even applies to GBV. Tekken 7 has made a few aspects easier but the vast majority is still very complex. Yet it remains very popular, proving that whole point that complex games can't do well wrong.

>BBTAG is dead on pc but I really don't know why
It is dead everywhere, which proves the original point wrong

Guilty gear is doomed, arcsys can't make a non babby mode game anymore.

Must suck now being mainstream huh?

>It just couldn't maintain players despite being incredibly casualised
Well, the fucks ups with Toei had a pretty insane chilling effect on the scene.

I'm guessing the controls are gonna be LMHS with H acting a bit like in DBFZ/BBTAG (strong blockback hit and universal antiair/sweep/maybe overhead?) and S of course being the special button.

>Mainstream
>None of their recent games can barely retain players

Yeah it really worked out

It was dropping off way before that, after EVO pretty much.

Guilty Gear is too intimidating for new players. They go online and getting stomped without any chance to retaliate. New cancer characters don't help. It needs some compromises and tone done some bullshit, plus some kind of f2p version like Core Fighters. Then, maybe, there's a future for GG.

Will it use superior limb based combat

I imagine there will be a throw and super button as well. Instead of making people press two buttons for a throw. The super one might work like the special where direction determines what super you do, cause it looked like characters have multiple. That would leave two buttons free

One thing I wonder about is where this parry comes from. I think that is a skill they talked about earlier, so maybe you have a unique action (vskill like?) button

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But where is best boy?

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I actually think Xrd is already completely accessible outside of it having a small playerbase so the only people now playing it are people who are good at the game, and it can be hard for a new player to catch up with that. The game itself is pretty easy to pick up and play at a somewhat competent level though, and there are plenty of characters with a relatively low skill floor. People just act like it's hard to pick up because of Accent Core, which was actually much less accessible, but Xrd's much easier to get into. I still think it could be simplified in some ways to its benefit, but I don't think it's all that intimidating for someone who actually tries it, what intimidates most people is just the reputation the game has for being tough to learn, and that's compounded by thinking they need to learn everything at once when in reality it's not the end of the world if you don't know how to Jump Install or something like that when starting out.

Shini fucked up the ports for CF, Tag, and [st]

It could be like Blade Strangers. That's the first thing that came to mind when I first heard they wanted single button specials.

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it's smash special inputs mixed with rising thunder cooldowns

the best of both worlds
i didn't like how rising thunder had a different button for every special
this is much better

I hope GBV still has a way to do different strengths of moves, even just two would be okay. For some reason I think they will avoid multiple button press moves, just to make stiff as straight forward as possible.

What annoyed me in RT is you only had 3, and despite being able to change you moves every button had moves locked to it.

>make easier game
>easier game sells better than the rest of the franchise
>proving that whole point that complex games can't do well wrong
Why do I waste my time on 4cucks.

Yeah for a year due to hype autism and now they have to pander too the normalfags.
Better be begging for other developers to take the place again.

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Part of what hurts people getting into it is people that pretend to play GG hyping up how hard it is to play.

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I agree, and I think it's true of a lot of other fighting games as well, even when people phrase it in such a way that they're praising it. A lot of people talk about how difficult VF is for example, and its fans of the game and detractors alike that do that, but in doing so they give off an image that it'll take way longer than it probably actually would take you to play at a somewhat competent level, and so a lot of people just don't bother with it as a result.

People are hyping up UNIST while they can barely play that either too.
Most YTers and twitterfags are blue square scrubs. Your average person online can hardly play fighters

Fun fact, ryu can't have 2 fireballs on screen at any given time

>the entire game is just wake up DPs
great job ArcSys

>It just couldn't maintain players despite being incredibly casualised

all characters are the same
35 goku variants
0 unique stuff
small roster with team of 3

team based games generally do worse than solo
what could go wrong?

What you say is true, but to be fair, even if they are blue squares I wouldn't necessarily take that as a sign of them being bad because UNIST's ranking system is shitty. I'm an orange and I'm pretty bad at it and probably deserve to be green or blue, some light blues completely decimate me, but I'm still orange because of the game's ranking system.

what is more gay
liking sandal or liking cagliostro?

I'll give you that, the ranking system is hilariously inconsistent due to its same color only rule.
I run into red and oranges who can hardly do anything past 2.5k damage or block basic frametraps.

I put little stock in the ranking system but people do lie about UNIST a lot, SamSho too.
>UNIST IS ANIME STREET FIGHTER
>SAMSHO IS ALL FOOTSIES
(lol

>SAMSHO IS ALL FOOTSIES
Well it ain't about combos or pressure

I don't believe in unist shills period, I probably play more than like 50 shills combined.
They're kind like mikaspammers, you think there's a bunch of them but there's hardly any mikas online.

>SAMSHO IS ALL FOOTSIES
That is true though

>I probably play more than like 50 shills combined.
You can't deny UNIst rise

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What if I like both

I'm not denying it, I'm just stating that most of them probably aren't any good or worth remembering.
They'll move onto the next hot thing in time while a couple of people who actually like playing the game will stay as with any game in the limelight.

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i fucking hate fat people they are so disgusting

>BBCF gone completely
Its not fair, Japan still plays it regularly in the arcades but West scene vamished completely

>I'm just stating that most of them probably aren't any good or worth remembering.
That's literally any game though, you don't have to be good at a game to like it.

>They'll move onto the next hot thing in time while a couple of
This doesn't work when what UNIst has had is a steady stable rise.

>people who actually like playing the game
Where did french bread touch you?

It's not but there is still plenty of dirty shit in the game. It's just that the game rewards defense and patience while still being explosive.

Not when Basara, Galford, and Ukyo exist

That's because Mika is ass

>No Draphs
The only downside, and will likely be fixed with DLC.
Just because some skills have CDs doesn't inherently make it bad.
The game very well could be dogshit, but a different fighting system doesn't automatically make it so.

>That's literally any game though
What's what I said.
> you don't have to be good at a game to like it.
Of course not, but people who aren't good at the game probably shouldn't go around sharing misinformed opinions
>This doesn't work when what UNIst has had is a steady stable rise.
I mean it's had like 4-5 waves of popularity at this point but it's its first EVO, I'm willing to bet there's a couple bandwagoners who won't stick with it

sounds pretty fun
another case of tryhards that dragged crosstag

>but there is still plenty of dirty shit in the game.
That doesn't mean it isn't about footsies. Footsies doesn't mean just Ryu whiffing cr.mks, or super clean play.

It is simply the mid range game where you are trying to control the flow, baiting and poking for damage. That can include making a huge read and throwing out something big, or knowing that you have a busted move that will always catch them doing whatever.

I just want a beat'em up xith that engine please. A good one, with a local multiplayer like good old times, it's really all I want.

You know what, that's completely fair when you frame it that way.

>playable loli fighter
Found my main

He looks like fujobait and a raging homosexual (he is)

>>Selectable skills
source?

It has been obvious as hell since dooberZ dropped. FUCK CASUALS AND FUCK NU-ARCSYS

>SF
>complex inputs
>implying french bread didn't make melty
God damn Yea Forumsedditors that don't play fighting games are so easy to spot. You probably just shitpost in /fgg/ during evo and that's it

see me in +r

>Arcsys
>We wan't to make this game less combo focused
>Also arcsys

It's the highest selling blazblue game so it's got that going for it
Hopefully it's success can put some money towards a new [spoiler/arcana heart lovemax\spoiler] game

>develop game for target audience (dbfz or gb) not combo autists
i don't see the problem? esp when gear/bb training room is still available

>[spoiler/
>\spoiler]
What in the god damn

Good one

It always confuses me how people who are total ass at the games they do play still somehow feel threatened by games becoming simplified.

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rip unist

>just because you suck at something doesn't mean you don't like doing it
At least they actually play fighting games

They only want to talk about how complex a game is without playing it.

That doesn't seem that combo heavy. That looks like two or three moves.

Because a huge aspect of fighters is getting better. If the ceiling is low that means there is less to aim for, higher level player ultimately isn't that different from yours. A deeper game can also allow for more variety, so while you still aren't good at everything they can carve a niche they like. Depth offers lots of different things to lots of different people.

Why do you keep making these snarky bitchy posts? Are you just that upset that people dare question a new fighter might not turn out well?

I don't think they do

You don't understand, that looks nearly impossible to a shitter. And this boards is full of them

Game literally should've been only female draphs, the most popular race. I hope this game bombs.

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How the fuck do you know?

>the most popular race
lol

Granblue itself is going to shut down next year because of the decline in female draph content.
No one gives a shit about other girls.

Fuck off homo.

t. homo

Git gud, spamnigger

I want to fuck them all

I didn't know draph fanatics were this braindead

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Human and primal women are all that matters. The popularity polls show this too.

You are just a homosexual yurifaggot

I actually like draphs and cake is my favorite character, I just don't want to be associated with you

>no girl Draph
>"Excuse us, gaijin, here's Redditmaya"

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>BBTAG’s controls were seen as too simple
>turns out it’s heavily reliant on proper meter use and managing 2 characters for near impossible to block situations
>DBFZ’s autocombos were seen as useless
>turns out they are key for maximising out damage for a good number of meta characters

What’s gonna happen this time?

>not recognizing blatant shitposters trying to drum up more discussion

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Actually Granblue is becoming more and more popular now that they are focusing on gay boys.

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Silva is the only human girl that's remotely popular and that's only because of casual yurifags.

>Jeanne
>Vira
lol

Naru is the only female Draph who ranked in the top ten of the female only skin poll

> maximising out damage
so, doing optimal combos....

>a good number of meta characters
lmao

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Jeanne and Vira are irrelevant trash. Most people didn't vote for Naru because she already has anniversary skin.

None of you waifufags are even going to play the game desu.

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I still want to try it out for fun. Would I buy it, maybe not, unless I somehow really enjoyed it. Anyway, was there ever any doubt that it wasn't going to be as braindead as possible? It's a fighting game for mobile game fans. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't implement the hold back to not do autocombos mechanic.

>The character with the most versions in the game and the character whose swimsuit release crashed the servers are irrelevant
eckes fucking dee

This, Granblue is played by boomer women

>black haired katalina
Cool, reminds me of Rosamia.
Wish Rosamia was there though.

bumop

bump

IMAGINE the low as fuck hitboxes also mating press

>e-sports
I see a lot of pathetic stuff online but people pretending vidya is a sport has got to be in my top 3.

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Any word on Re:link?

fpbp

>babytag lower than SC6 and UNIst in the rise

Good riddance to that mugen trash

Of of the programmers on granblue VS is a westerner who previously worked on the KI reboot and a big advocate of rollback networking, so even if it's not GGPO it's likely to be some similar solution.

Nobody here plays any fighting games.

god, i forgot how absolutely SHIT nico is

i do

Here's your dlc bro.

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>lambo in versus

we can only wish brother

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no you don't

>Not cygames meme characters like Vania, Cerberus or Grea

Some new stuff popped up yesterday
>While Platinum Games left the project earlier in 2019, the bulk of what it built remains, including the level layout, character animation, and fighting systems.
>Each character has their own fighting style and is tied to a certain weapon or weapon type.
>The game progresses in a mostly linear fashion, but there will be additional activities. “You can pick up side-quests from the towns you visit along the way, and come and go between them as you please,” according to director Tetsuya Fukuhara.
>Towns also act as lobbies where you can team up with other players online and take on missions. (You can also play solo, with the rest of the four-person party being AI-controlled.)
>Regarding characters, Fukuhara said, “We know there are many fan favorites, so we’ll try to fit in as many as we reasonably can. It’s not possible to match the roster size of the original game, of course, and the development team has its hands full deciding who makes the final cut.”

Shizumaru, Okina (za lasto bureido), maybe Choi from kof.

SKY KNIGHTS

Do I have to uncap my SSR katana to the max before reducing it or it's the same thing than reducing multiple similar Katana one by one?