"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy...

good sales and lower prices compared to consoles
steam sales are a joke now and games cost as much as consoles on top of being digital only

It's a little more abstract than that. The service offers low prices because it's an entirely different distribution model. It got fucked when dying retail chains started bitching 5 minutes after he said that quote but it still stands that it's the digital distribution service and ecosystem that allows for lower prices.

>I've seen people get their avatar banned because they had Alex Jones on it on Steam.
LOL as if you have any proof of that

He is not wrong, and the picture is so accurate it's scary.

He's literally never been wrong

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>piracy doesn’t affect sales
So your saying it does.Ok,well you pirate everything so if you pirate non sjw games it encourages investors to make more sjw games

Both, I probably wouldn't have moved to Steam on service alone, the prices play a big part too.

>games cost as much as consoles on top of being digital only
Since when has that not been the case? I know there are a bunch of people that pay $5 for a game and then insist they are huge fans of the franchise but since when has Steam been "cheaper" on launch outside of stuff like GoG?

It's actually a combination of both. I hacked my switch because the prices were ridiculous and the service of only giving us ports was insulting.

Early on before physical retailers got pissed. Games were 10 to 15 dollars off.

>well you pirate everything
I don't. Who says I do?

I pay for the games that deserve it, both with content, and with business practices.

>he thinks enough people know how to pirate to affect the nu-stores
even most of Yea Forums has no idea how pirate, normies are even worse
Epic isn't going to fail due to piracy

proof fag

>even most of Yea Forums has no idea how pirate
What the fuck are you on about.

This is not even 2005 anymore, you don't even need a virtual disk like daemon tool anymore that requires you to somewhat understand what you're doing.

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>we are le epic pirates xD
PC gamers are the cringiest faggots in history, the gamer version of Anonymous in a Guy Fawkes mask

Haven't paid for a game with my own money for years yet I own 1400+ games on Steam.
Steam market is the easiest way to make money to buy games.

Lmao salty buycuck

>Steam market is the easiest way to make money to buy games.
Why the fuck would you bother with those schemes when pirating is easier and faster?

Jesus, you're one angry consumerist cuck, aren't you.

I wish I could afford a VPN to pirate free of the Verizon jew.

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>I wish I could afford a VPN
Get a job nigger. It's like 5 bucks a month.

Who said I don't pirate? I benefit from the market for games I want to support while playing them long before I buy them.

But then I would just buy games.

Okay then, fair enough.
Pirating then buying is patrician tier, everyone agrees with that.

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*Hits pipe*
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a buyfag. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are buying from, subscribing to, playing the product of, and defending a corporation solely so they can go and get your games locked onto certain digital stores. All the hard work devs put into their beautiful games - sculpting their bodies, getting the animations just right, figuring out what their audience wants, designing a fun experience. All of it has one simple result: their game is more enjoyable for one particular audience that will buy it on another storefront. Made the perfect game? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random alt-right russian hacker incel who has nothing to do with digital stores, who just pirates the game. He gets to play the game without any sort of interruption or DRM. He gets the benefits of the game's good times, the way the devs intended. As a "man" who has a PC, you are LITERALLY dedicating years of your life supporting a publisher simply to support games for other storefront consumers to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

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Why is it so hard for devs/publishers to not completely screw over their customer? Is it a compulsion?

I love that pasta and the variants.

>Haven't made anything worthwhile since 2007
>Popularized microtransations and cosmetics via TF2, opening the gates for more free to play garbage on the market
>Wanted to add payed mods
>"Actually money is how the community steers work."
>Added Steam Direct turning Steam into Google Play Store v2.0
>Made Artefact just to milk money even though nobody asked for it
>Steam fronted is still trash and so are the search options, but here are some faggot curators to do our job for us FOR FREE
>Retards will still defend Valve

FUCK EPIC, BUT FUCK VALVE NIGGERS EVEN MORE

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Jews marketers, pressure from ideologues, financial worries, journalist cunts, etc.

>paying for games
>ever
could be 1$ a game and i'd still pirate it lmao

>People think investors look at any reasons regarding piracy beyond hard numbers.

There is no justification and piracy literally has no effect on the industry, the industry making a big deal about it is a scapegoat to strengthen the rights of production companies.

>Pirating because "sjws"
I don't see how showing them you enjoy their games enough to break the law does anything about that one. Its not like they are going through your internet history to read all your bitching comments, they just see that you wanted a game and didn't want to pay for it.

This is bullshit. You only get your profile image removed if it has porn in it. And even then I have friends who currently have naked women or hentai as their profile pic and have never been warned for anything

if it was a service problem why would people pirate it which has even worse service? Pc kiddies doing this complaining is such a cringefest. grow the fuck up

there's two kinds of pirates
lazy people, and poor people
the latter will almost always pirate
and the former will consider buying games if it's presented to them as an easier/better option

>There is no justification and piracy literally has no effect on the industry

Show us the data

retard

You overestimate Yea Forumsedditors and zoomers.

Most of the games I pirate is because I decide that I don't want to give money to "those people" or condone some business practices.

What does that makes me?

>What does that makes me?
an autist

Soulless vs Soul

Hes right. Alot of piracy used to come from other regions having delayed releases, or somehow difficult to access games. It was from like mid 2000's but Gabe would talk about how piracy was heavily reduced when all customers had easy access to a new release at the same time.

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Come on, I mean, even my mother could pirate a game from Piratebay, install it, and then replace the launcher with a cracked .exe.

You just have to follow the steps.
How retarded can a zoomer be?

good argument

>How retarded can a zoomer be?

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People have been tricked into deleting system32 and wiping their hard drives with magnets. The common user is fucking retarded.

Piracy has never been shown to have a net negative effect on software sales, and from the forefront has always been about securing profit and security of intellectual property.

This can be seen back to "don't copy that floppy". Companies don't want their product to be weakened by inferior copies, and they wanted the profits that pirated copy sellers were making. That is why Gabe is quoted as saying it's a distribution problem, because piracy even back in the day was either to get out of regional distribution, or consolidating software for the ease of a consumer.

There is no additional cost to a producer for pirating their content, you can argue they lose a "sale" but unlike conventional theft there is not a cost to produce or replace the stolen good, thus you can only argue projected profit and sales which they have been shown to artificially inflate for shareholders anyway.

DRM came about because companies, instead of admitting they missed investors about the success of their software, used the scapegoat of piracy as an excuse, which prompted the demand of DRM and legislation from investors to protect their investment.

read that EU report that was suppressed because it proved piracy does no harm

Because it was never a service problem, but it was true, especially at the time, that simply dropping prices massively caused people in countries that traditionally defaulted to piracy to instead spend at least some money on the games they play.

Steam has amazingly low price, especially if you're a third worlder like me with their regional pricing.

>Having more delivery vectors available to you is a bad thing

alright.

they are if they are infected with malware

>ignoring half of the words on purpose

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That's just poorfag and incel whining.

>How retarded can a zoomer be
I told a friend of mine he should just pirate the dlcs for shit like paradox games but he’s too stupid to do it himself.

>Buying a six month old game for $15 has nothing to do with pricing
C'mon son.

Are we going to pretend that L4D(1&2) and Portal 2 don’t exist? Also csgo and dota2, but that’s debatable. Yes, valve changed, but it’s still ahead of the practices of other devs.

So what if you pirate, like it, and end up buying it?

Heavens forbid!

Piracy is a saturation problem.
When you saturate a market with dogshit and don't provide a right to refund across all products, then piracy is the way to filter through the dogshit and denying financial support for dogshit scams.

vidya cringe thread?

>Piracy is a saturation problem.
No it's not.

>Since when has that not been the case?
I know you're too young to remember this, but brand new PC games used to cost $50. It was standard. Then CoD MW2 launched on Steam at $60 and the success of that despite the retards who claimed they'd boycott it for a lack of dedicated servers caused the entire industry to start making their new releases $60 on Steam.

That's right, retards like you are responsible for everyone else getting fucked out of 10 extra dollars.

Piracy is a PC problem. Actually no i agree its a service problem, its just its satisfying to buy games for PS4, you own them forever and can always replay from your last save from months ago without worrying it will disappear because you deleted the game

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Yes it is when it becomes a solution.

>someone doesn't buy games from all the services
>it must be those virgins who don't have sex!

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>all these fucking epic shills who equate steam as nothing more than a store not knowing that most people buy thier games on steam for -50% off or more from key resellers
>not understanding that steam as a platform is fucking godly and they are constantly improving thier client with features
I bet you fags don't even remember a time when you had to install chink Spyware just to use ps3 controllers on PC and that was legit the only option.

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>using incel unironically
So that's true what they say, if people pretends to be idiots they get surrounded by actual idiots thinking they are in good company.

You faggots need to stop treating video games like you are entitled to them, if you can't afford it or doesn't like the DRM then fuck off.

Pirating niggers are the reason why DRM exists in the first place, so stop being a fucking subhuman and get a job.

If you want the full game unpatched, it's much easier to just pirate it and get thr full rather than buy it and look up guides to unpatch it.

There is an old piracy does not affect sales quote, but that only holds true to a point. When the pirated version offers more content that phrase no longer holds true.

>PC problem
My vita says otherwise

this was a big thing a week or two ago around the time Alex jones got banned from Facebook retard

>There is no justification and piracy literally has no effect on the industry

Guess thats why all games are drm free nowadays. Oh wait...

I bet you like the new UI lmao

No Wasn't piratebay siezed and Turned unit a british Botnet? I know how to pirate, But I don't use Piratebay nor Utorrent.

Some retard on /t didnt know what a magnet link was and when told to read the sticky got defensive about it

As opposed to illegit the only option?

Fucking kek

Why is Yea Forums so full of retarded moralfags who argue against piracy and retarded pirates who brag about pirating games as if pirating Minecraft makes them special

>tfw modern games are so shit theyre not even worth pirating

I pirate maybe 1 or 2 games every 2 months just out of curiosity and end up deleting them after an hour anyway.

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Then surely you can post some proof

Is that filename a reference to the edgy furry RPer with a landwhale gf?

Yea Forums: piracy does not affect sales, this has been proven many times in the past
Also Yea Forums: i will pirate this game to damage it's sales
The mental gymnastics pirate fags do to justify their acts it's always amazing to watch

based 14 year old respectless shits

>i will pirate this game to damage it's sales
Nobody actually does this? If they're that mad then they weren't buying it anyway.

yeah

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>implying refunds aren't a thing

>Wasn't piratebay siezed and Turned unit a british Botnet?
Not at all.

Why are his eyes so big that you can see the backs of them?

>"grrr I hate pirates"
>uses an adblocker
>listens to music on YouTube(with an adblocker)
>uses emulators
>downloads animes from horriblesubs and various other sites
>downloads/watches cartoons on sites like kimcartoon
>records TV shows with his Blu ray/DVD player

If you complain about vidya piracy but do any of the above you're a hypocrite.

>DLC doesnt exist on Steam
>DRM doesnt exist on Steam
>Microtransactions dont exist on Steam
>Censorship doesnt exist on Steam
>SJW's dont exist on Steam
>Exclusive pre-order bonuses dont exist on Steam
What am i reading

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You have comprehension issues.

Yeah, now that the EU had to literally pressure them into offering them.

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what did it prove?
people buy games when they are on sale for 2$ rathern then buying it fullprice for 60? sounds like a pricing issue to me.
most people dont pirate games because they have something for free, but simply cause they cant afford it. a "better service" wont fill a NEETS wallet.

What new UI? I've been using the metro skin since 2011

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>people buy games when they are on sale for 2$ rathern then buying it fullprice for 60?
The "best selling" tab is proving that you are wrong.

it doesn't it literally makes it worse because the only people left buying the games are people who either don't care or aren't autistic enough to not buy a game because there's a gay in it

>MFW i got Ass Creed Origins from Humble Monthly and i didn't installed it because i don,t want Uplay cancer on my computer

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/v's steamsale threads prove you are wrong.

>How free your speech is, is measured by if you get banned for calling someone a nigger
Endlessly amusing

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Not really, no, Yea Forums threads are not representative of all consumers.
The "best selling tab" is.

show me your fucking best selling tab, if its just another dumb random statistic dont bother.

I just don't care to download and keep track of 6 different distributors launchers just to play video games. It's easier to just pirate and launch games straight from the .exe without all the shitty DRM.

Steam still has issues with regional pricing in the EU since different EU countries have drastically different economies. The Baltics are especially fucked by this.

It's the top selling tab on the front page of Steam, see for yourself if people only buy "2 dollars games on sale".

That's because of the EU, not because of Steam.

i didnt say they only buy. i said they rather tend to buy the games when they are cheap.
if a game is new it obivously sells more then something that is old.
use your brain for atleast 3 seconds a day.

they need money to survive

Point. The EU should honestly hurry up and crumble already.

Formerly XCHUCK Games

Why does it still exist? You think with majors countries trying to nuke their own economy by flooding themselves with bagillions of jobless migrants on government help, you'll think they would have given up the EU already.

The EU exists to clump together Europe's economic clout so it doesn't become a series of economic client states to the US and China. The people trying to break it apart are all in the pocket of big American finance, or are literally going "MUH EMPIRE" in both English and French.

Wages haven't gone up substantively in most of the developed world since 2008. I wonder if this might have something to do with the increase in piracy again.

But Steam blow up in Russia and the third world because of very low prices.

>t.EU shill
You'd have a point if EU wasn't mostly completely staffed by unelected shithead officials who barely pay attention to what they vote on. It's just an overgrown cancerous growth at this point.

Don't even own hardware capable of paying modern games and still don't feel like I'm missing much. Getting a new PC soon and all the jewing/epic exclusivity means little to me since I'll be playing complete editions of gen starting games and so complete editions of new shit will be on steam for $10 by the time I get around to them.

Do you elect the civil service?

That's literally what the commission is, it's just civil servants on a supranational level, the MEPs and Council are both elected and they get final say, and last time they tried to make more elected positions everyone screeched about it. You can't have it both ways, you can't screech about them wanting an elected president then bitch that you voted against having one.

If we actually had one the brexit debacle would have gone much better due to there being an actual democratic mandate to have a real negotiation rather than a box ticking exercise.

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Ironic that Steam is one reason why i don't use Pc for games.

Try 2 every year

>if we don't rule over you you might get more influence from the big bad amerimutt
Fantastic argument there. I bet you think the Hapsburg empire was a good thing.

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