Worth 29.99 ? looks cool

Worth 29.99 ? looks cool
Could just be the ass honestly that's teasing my wallet

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Just watch the cutscenes on youtube. Gameplay sucks.

Lol no considering you can get her in Soul Calibur for less.

Yes, it’s good time value for money. Path b is often seen as the worst, c is the best

>tfw have waited so long the game is half off now
I might as well just wait until it's $20 or even lower.

How fast do you get bored.

Getting mixed messages here

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Play it if you played the first game, otherwise fuck off.

YoRHa Edition is around $15 on Steam in my region, and that's the permanent price without any possible sales factored in.

I'll keep waiting.

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What first game

It’s one of the highest rated games of the decade, play it

Its an ok game but id get it as cheap as possible since its a one playthrough and your done deal.
Just to stare at 2bs bulging thighs and butt.

NieR
Well technically it's Drakengard, but NieR is more crucial to understand Automata

Whats it like to be poor?

If you like philosophy it’s perfect.

it's been like 20 for over a year lol

Ps4 Japan sale

Other than the human part. Is it really that crucial?

I also wondering this

Shit game, floaty combat, pirate it first or at least watch a vid. The combat feels so bad though holy fuck I literally uninstalled 30 seconds after getting control of 2B. The game is seriously just fotm weeb trash for people with bad taste and yellow fever, A2 is infinitely better by the way.

The irony is that you’re almost certainly poorer than me, I just have to pay less for things.

Yeah, otherwise you will miss every reference and won't know who Emil is.

>playing Taro games for gameplay
Retard

> xddd why aren't you tossing your money away on worthless garbage
What's it like to be retarded?

Alright nigger tell me what percentage of the fanbase played the first game.

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>N-no Im not poor

Pathetic

Fantastic thanks user.

Its like video game eva except you give a shit about shinji because shinji is a hot chick and instead of piloting super robots, they pretend to be cuphead and fight tincans on the set of metropolis.

Or I could be completely wrong and be a faggot. You have to see for yourself.

Absolutely.
I got it for roughly that price myself couple years ago, and I feel like I stole it afterwards. It is truly a magnificent, one of a kind game. Don't let salty memesters claim otherwise.

I later on purchased it for PS4 as well, and replayed it from scratch. Still haven't 100% it, but one day I will.

Bait. My father is a professor of phil. and merely through second-hand knowledge to me it's obviously Taro was just name-dropping rather than saying anything substantial. The Sartre jokes etc are cringe if you actually know anything about the field.

>memesters

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Just get it now, nigga. You get way more bang for the buck than you might imagine. Not to mention some unforgettable experience you recall back again and again in the future.

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I can't tell if any of the responses are at all serious

It's a truly unique game. Flawed for sure, but the whole aesthetic is on point.
Feels awesome to play too, even if it's not really deep or challenging.
I spent 60 bucks on it so that it could run like trash on my 1080ti, and I don't regret it.

>if you pirate the game you get denied the true ending.
>just hop on youtube and watch it
>fans scream but you miss the emotional feeling
lol

Is it even the same emil, that's just a like another reference bro. You want this guy to play through hell just so he can notice the boar riding anamation is the same in both games.

>Friend and I were playing through the game together
>He moved away before we could get close to finishing it
>Want to buy the game myself to finish it but thinking about automata just makes me sad now

>NieR and Drakengard are crucial to Automata
haha, what?
Neither of those games are not crucial AT ALL to the story of Nier Automata. Every reference to the previous titles are fun little references for longtime fans, not required playing. Keep your gatekeeping bullshit out of here and let OP enjoy 2B's thighs and an existential crisis.

It is a very good game. Definitely worth $30

>Is it even the same emil,
Yes.

>but thinking about automata just makes me sad now
Thinking back to Automata makes most of its fans "sad" by default. In a good way.

yes. please do it.

I didn't. I just watched Clemps's review of the entire series leading up to Automata

>Emil playing a huge role in the events of Automata and machines being designed after him is just a tiny reference

It's implied that it's him

pretty much everything in the game is somehow related to Emil.

>Emil playing a huge role
Emil does the following
pop out of a machine's head
run away
start a shop
fucks off for a few side quests and is never mentioned again

> machines being designed after him is just a tiny reference
Yes, as it has absolutely nothing to do with the story of Automata itself and is just worldbuilding bonus material. Hell, I didn't even think about that until you mentioned it, and the revelation has done nothing to affect my understanding and enjoyment of the game itself.

and you don't even need to know who the fuck he is to enjoy the game and understand the message it is presenting. All that is bonus goodies for longtime fans.

It's not like Kingdom Hearts 3 where you have to sit through hours of recap material just to understand what the fuck is happening.

Good job leaving out the parts where Emil fought off the aliens and was the entire reason why machines were made, brainlet.

to add. All of Emil's "important' bits are just backstory and worldbuilding. It's as necessary to the plot as watching the Japanese stage plays, IE, not required at all.

You have to dig deeper. All the robots are based on Emil clones. That means the yorha androids are also based on Emil,
The aliens were probably Emil too.

Yes, get it. Although I'd advise you not to get it on PC.

Literally where does it say machines are made directly because of emil, last he told us he fucking forgot everything.

What's wrong with PC version ?

>playing games for gameplay
>Retard
I thought I was on Yea Forums, I guess I got turned around and stumbled into /cinematicexperiences/

>name dropping
It's the machines copying human personalities that were on record dumbass
It's not simple "name dropping"

You need to mod it for it to be playable. The port is terrible. Even then I wouldn't say the mod fixes everything.

Performance is completely random. Mod doesn't fix it.

Literally the only problem is setting it to borderless/fullscreen properly, other than that retards with toasters keep complaining about it.

Yeah, I left that shit out becuase it's
1. Not in the game
2. Not important to the story

Next you're going to tell me I need to watch Captain Marvel to understand Iron Man 1

The main thing is that it has a resolution glitch where full screen is locked to 900P unless you download a mod called FAR.

>the reason for the existance of the enemies you fight for 80 hours isn't important
lol ok

I played it on a phenom 2 955 with steady 60fps. Upgraded to a 2600x and drops to 40s frequently.

The resolution's fucked, but the FAR mod fixes it. Also, the keyboard controls make the game basically unplayable, so make sure you have a controller.

If you want to just play the game, yo udon't have to do any digging at all. That's my point. You don't need to play any of the games. All you are spouting are the little references that is a bonus for fans of the series. You can literally play and enjoy and understand the game without knowing any of this shit.

Jesus christ

Great game if you like something like Undertale, unironically

Fun enough gameplay on its own but if you're willing to actually try liking the story it's 10/10

The mod fixes performance if you use it to tweak GI values. Mod doesn’t fix random crashing though.

Also KB/M support is an absolute abortion, honestly it’s as bad as it could possibly be on KB/M, it’s not even a console port, it’s actively shittier
>removed the dodge button entirely for no reason, you have to double-tap WASD
>during 2D segments you literally can’t aim AT ALL, they never bothered to hook up mouse support
Plus all the usual shit that comes with a P* PC port where mouse speed is capped at the analogue output value and menu navigation sucks.

Nothing.

People will complain about Automata with FAR, yet rave about Dark Souls with its mod, yet its the same exact process. Get a mod, fix the graphics.

I liked it at first, then loved it. I wasn't sure what to expect from the combat since I see everyone say platinum games are gods at making combat, it wasn't really that good but it doesn't get in the way of enjoying the game otherwise, unless you're playing the hardest difficulty maybe. You can spam cheap consumables to heal in addition to customizing your skills that can keep you alive.

Who gives a Fuck besides autismos

user is talking from a writing perspective, not an in-universe perspective. Reading comprehension, please have some.

I played Automata for 70 hours and ran into none of these issues, not well optimized but my mid-tier pc could handle it easily still. Crashed once during my playtime

Doesn't play nice with AMD hardware.

The reason is given in game.
Aliens wanted to kill humanity
they made robots to do it
Badabing, badaboom, there we go.

That's wrong tho

Based

It doesn’t crash all the time, but it crashed 2-3 times on me.

Even a SINGLE unexpected, unrecoverable crash in a game which makes a point of never auto-saving is inexcusable though. Do you know how many PC games I’ve logged many hundreds of hours in without a single crash occurring? The PC port of Automata was an afterthought, it’s bad. Unstable, unoptimized, nigh-unfunctional without mod support, piss-poor control configuration and terrible scalability options.

That doesn’t stand in the way of the game being good (though honestly the game is just mediocre) but it is a fucking clunker of a port.

>a major point in the game is reasons for existing doesn't matter at all and the androids were fighting for a lie the entire time

>LOL BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHY IT HAS 3 BUTT HOLES, ITS SUPER IMPORTANT GUIS

Dsfix also fucks up collision detection, making some jumps and edges not work correctly. Also I never crashed in Dark souls with the mod, like I did in nier.

Also DaS is playable without dsfix, nier isn't with my hardware. I get white screens of death (780ti). So the nier port is just outright worse.

Game never really crashed on me. Maybe once or twice in my whole playthrough.

>always shitpost on this game
>give it a real try
>it's actually quite good

I'm sorry Nier bros.

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And so is the fact that there are humans on the moon.

And the point is that it doesn't fucking matter and that the characters have to make up their own reasons to exist.

>Dsfix also fucks up collision detection, making some jumps and edges not work correct
Only if you change the FPS

I didn’t feel anything at all for any of Automata’s characters except Pascal. I don’t get why people meme about the story so much.

Yes, it'll change your life forever.

I started playing the game around the time I had an existential crisis, so it was pretty important to me.

Carried by the soundtrack

>only if you change the FPS
Yes, and who didn't?

Combat has literally no endlag how that could constitute floatiness is beyond me. Dumb fucking kiddie hearts retard

It has Denuvo though.

It's like that objectively 5/10 girl you liked in middle school for no apparent reason.

You can use a button that switches it to 30 fps for those parts of the game. LIterally just a key press away from making a jump

Asshole

its good and a lot of anons like it so contrarians shit their pants. every thread is flooded by seething retards bitching about the older games but even most of them concede the gameplay is better

And? Only pirate niggers care about denuvo.

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People meme about story when they mean to say feels. You can achieve 10/10 feels regardless of overall plot,which is what tier automata often does, because from the dev's own mouth they cared more about the emotions they wanted a player to feel rather than the actual plot

Not him but it’s the way that the dodge and attack animations take so long between starting and coming out. Objectively there’s no input lag, but it takes so long between pressing a button and the character actually doing the fucking thing. Even jumping has this godawful lerping windup.

The whole thing feels weightless and floaty because your character just sort of drifts between actions. There’s no pop/snap to your commands. Nothing happens quickly so nothing feels forceful or important.

That's literally the problem. There's no hit feedback and no weight to your character or weapons, you're just twizzling your little stick around at one gorillion hours per second like a hot knife through butter. It just feels so bad.

Really? Pascal is like forced "please feel for this character now" and one of the weaker secondary characters in the NieRverse for me.
>I don’t get why people meme about the story so much.
That's completely fine. It doesn't have to be an emotional rollercoaster for everyone, good stories are never like that. Different people react differently.

you sure you have your tv set to game mode user?

It has the exact same hit feedback as dragons dogma or devil may cry.

But that’s the thing, I got no feels. I get that argument; I teared up at the ending of FFXV despite that game having a bunch of fucking nonsense shenanigans for a plot, because the characters were likable and understandable and I could identify with their emotions.

Automata never gave me that. I never cared about anyone in it. Pascal got me a little bit, just in the scene where he wants to have his mind erased. And I guess the little bucket machine at the start of B was sad in a cute way. But beyond that I was incapable of giving a fuck about anybody. They were stiff, uninteresting characters with no real emotional development, and half of the game’s “grand sacrifice” moments were retarded because the game hammers into your head that it’s all just backups anyway, so nobody’s death has any real meaning, at least until the very end.

short hair A2 > A2 > Devola = Popola > 2B > Commander > 6O

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The only feels are the credits boss if you delete your data. If you pirated it you didn't experience it.

>Great game if you like something like Undertale, unironically
I hate UT with passion, and loved Nier:A without even trying. I don't get the comparison at all.

>What's wrong with PC version ?
Nothing a simple patch that takes 5 seconds to download and install would not fix.
However, if your PC is made in the past few years, it would still be playable even all-vanilla.

What did you think of Planescape: Torment if you played it?

based and red-pilled

>But that’s the thing, I got no feels. I
Sounds like you're a bit of a psycho, 2bh.

I know what I’m talking about. Test it if you don’t believe me. Perform a dodge in any other action game, and then perform one in automata. Automata has this whole big lean-in animation before you even start moving, then an acceleration curve up into the dash, and then a slowdown.

Even games with a dash-dodge like DMC (Trickster) or Megaman X have the move pop out instantaneously. No startup frames. Automata EVERYTHING has a billion startup frames. Running, dashing, jumping, and most of your attacks. The animations begin instantly when the button is pressed, but they spend forever dicking around in preparatory animation before anything fucking happens.

It makes the game feel unresponsive and soupy.

How do you program this?

>and half of the game’s “grand sacrifice” moments were retarded because the game hammers into your head that it’s all just backups anyway
I remember thinking that, but after finishing the game I looked up more of the lore and stuff, I found out there was a good reason 2b was crying during her ending

Did someone recommend you the game by chance, and you begrudgingly played through it?

imagine playing a game for the gameplay lmao

I didn’t choose to delete my data.

I haven't played Devil May Cry in like 12 years and I didn't particularly enjoy Dragon's Dogma melee combat.

It's $30 for a game that's extremely bland visually and has gameplay to match. Don't bother.

Lol

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I was excited to play through it (not for Taro, I discovered it as a Plat fan but I followed its development closely because it looked fantastic). It just disappointed me. I can do stupid RPGs; I cried at the end of the first Kingdom Hearts FFS. I cried at the end of FFIX. It’s not like it’s hard for a game to break through that wall and touch me if I care about the characters. I just never managed to give a fuck about any of Automata’s characters.

>game feels weightless because characters act like they have weight

>secondary niggers try to get into Automata despite being warned multiple times to play DoD and/or NieR first
>wah wah why dont I care about any character or the world
Retards

I've never played the first Nier and loved Automata. Deal with it.

That’s correct. This may seem counter-intuitive but the reason is because you are “holding” the character in your hands via the controller. When they pop and snap around in response to your commands they feel heavy and significant. When they drift lazily around after them it feels like smacking around a balloon. 2B controls like a beach ball, not a baseball. That’s why it feels weightless.

Nobody bought it for the ass, you discord tranny.

I don't need to pay for sex faggot

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based. so many nierA fans are derivative shitters

this is some beyond insane cope

Nice buzzword, faggot.

The word you’re looking for is “secondary”, tranny

It's a story about characters trapped in a hopeless struggle in a hopeless war in a hopeless world that doesn't care about their existence one bit and treats them like disposable trash. There's no religion or mythology or ideology to fall back on. That they manage to find some sort of meaning to their life in the end is pretty powerful I think, and it's rare to find the same tone in a Western story. That's the part that resonates strongly with some people.
>Even if it's pointless, you still have to do it!

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Except Dev and Popo (kinda) and Emil none of the characters in Automata were in Nier to begin with. And Dev and Popo get a miserable billion-hour exposition dump anyway. Did I miss the part where playing Nier would explain to me why I should give two shits about A2 or Commander or 9S or 21O or 2B or the Pods or Adam or Eve or any of the other myriad speaking role characters who meant nothing to me, despite the entire story revolving around them?

>because you are “holding” the character in your hands via the controller
Found the kid who flails their controller around trying to make their character jump better. Do you tilt your head in racing games too?

2B and A2 are literally built upon the memories of Kainé

I dropped it after a few hours. It's dry, bland and boring. One of the most overrated games I've ever encountered.

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I guess that's just how it is then. I liked following the repressed androids and their whimsical apocalyptic adventure, I did like that there didn't seem to be much of a point to it all. And figuring out the stuff that didn't make sense after made it even better for me.

2b weighs 148.8 kilos and has an 88cm waist.
Apologise to 2b for lewding her.

Imagine her straddling your weak flesh body and pinning you down with all of her weight

I bet you believe you are sophisticated.

This is never stated, except for a throwaway line in the stage play which could be interpreted as you wish
You don't need to have played NieR to get Automata although it might help to relate to Dev/Pop

Today's engine's are material based. You just choose the material and it behaves like it, breaks the light like it should has the physics it should have and so on.
In other words this engine has a thicc material.

It depends on what you're looking for and the values you hold toward video games. It has good parts as well as parts that are just ok, in my opinion - but a game's appeal is mostly subjective, isn't it ?

Story-wise it's 7/10. Emotional bits are a little cringe if you're bothered by typical hammy Japanese acting; I personally find it enjoyable. It's not super deep either, but the premise is pretty neat, more so if you can be bothered to familiarize yourself with the lore of the prior games.
I'd score the same for gameplay, and for similar reasons. Not very deep, in order to keep it story-focused, but has pretty cool flashy animations if you're into that, plus plugin chips (skills) help to mix it up a bit. Alternate weapon types are fun if less effective, but not unbearably so.

Also, 2B's pasty bubble butt and thighs.

All in all it's pretty casual gameplay-wise, but still fun and interesting.

usual utter shit japanese port that mever got fixed because the devs are incompetent lazy fucks

I feel like “loose themes of futility and pointlessness” don’t do much to give the specific characters any emotional depth. Like, yeah, war for no reason, everything’s a lie, there’s a grand plot twist oh-shit-moment, but why would that make me give a fuck about this guy I’m controlling? Or this guy I’m fighting? Every story beat that’s supposed to have significance just falls flat because I don’t care at all what happens to these androids.

It’s a decidedly video-game plot, that’s the thing. I give about as much of a fuck about 9S as I would about Doomguy or Sam Gideon. I understand them and their motives well enough to get why I should kill the things in front of me to keep moving, but the game never bothers to make them into a person I have emotional interest in. And so all of the major “existential crisis shit” has about as much impact as if Doomguy were to wonder aloud, 75% of the way through the game, “what killing all these demons MEANS? What’s the POINT?”

That's the exact opposite of weightless and floaty. 2B is instantly invincible when you press Dodge, the 3-7 frame "lean in" catches enemy attacks and allows players to change 2B's trajectory, unlike all the games you listed. Furthermore the dodging in Nier Automata has fantastic feedback, closest feel to wavedashing in melee than anything in another game, putting that as your negative makes you look like a massive autist

Well in any case I believe the game is not for me, and some part of that feels like it's being praised too much, which is both right I imagine.

Has anything ever given you feels?

2B gets pretty much all the emotional depth she needs in the beginning when she's pissed that 9S lost his memory of the opening mission. I think that's probably the point in the game where you're either on or off the wagon, because as a player it's pretty easy to ignore a fist clenching and not go on to think about why 2B would care so much or what her problem is when "9S" technically still exists, but then again that's a part of the story that very intentionally doesn't happen on the screen but instead inside the head of the player. If you're asleep and just shuffle from scene to scene treating everything the characters do as set dressing, you're obviously going to miss the parts that are intended to create an internal dialogue for the player and therefore miss all the "important" bits from the game's story.

There's plenty of emotional depth in the characters beyond just being trapped in a hopeless existence. They have emotional attachments, personal beliefs and a strong human desire to find purpose, they experience heartbreak and loss. Their morality get challenged. It's easy to not relate to them or conversely to identify with them. Comparing them to Doomguy or any blanket FPS guy is kinda disingenuous don't you think?

2bs story is creepy when you realise her whole little girl act of "my 9s i have to find my 9s" is because she is his executioner programmed to track him down

Yes. Plenty of games have, including games with stupider plots than this. I mentioned already ITT I literally cried at the ending scenes of KHI, FFIX and FFXV. I've also gotten plenty of feels (though not enough to actually bring a tear down my cheek) from Hollow Knight, Saints Row 2, Myst III, and tons of others.

A lot of those aren't even good games from a narrative perspective. A lot of them are pretty retarded. But they characterize well enough that I'm able to feel for the people in them, and so when sad things happen to those people, I feel sympathy.

I can't feel sympathy for non-characters who the game never even puts in the effort to get me to care about.

The game isn't being praised too much, it's being praised for the wrong reasons. People are searching for depth where it doesn't exist. Yoko Taro has never been cryptic about anything. However, the internet pseudo-intellectuals feel the need to pretend it's deeper than it is because they believe that they're not allowed to like simple things lest they seem unsophisticated.

I don't believe the game is deep at all, but it works well for me because it touches upon universal human questions.

>They have emotional attachments, personal beliefs and a strong human desire to find purpose, they experience heartbreak and loss
But I don't. The abstract fact that they have emotional attachments doesn't make them mean something to me, any more than an NPC in Prototype should mean something to me because, if you pause to think about it, that dude I just ate had a mother like we all do, right?

The game needs to present this shit to me in an identifiable way, and it totally fails to. You never learn to like 2B. You never come to root for her... and then they just kill her off and replace her with someone else who you have even less reason to root for. I don't know these people. Their hopes and dreams, such as they may exist, don't have any bearing on the way they behave on the regular in the game itself. 9S gets a little closer to proper characterization but he spends so much fucking time engaged in expository dialogue that it still makes him really hard to actually give a shit about.

Ditto Adam and Eve. God, I have never met a set of vidya villains I gave less of a shit about. I got more amped up about my Rival in pokemon than those two fuckheads. It's all just so pointless. And Commander too. shit, that should have been easy, a betrayal arc is a super-simple way of getting a player invested, and they still made her so plot-irrelevant before her betrayal that you don't give a damn. Being betrayed by Lotus in goddamn Warframe did that emotional beat better; when goddamn Warframe is outplaying you on your "betrayed by your guide" character twist, there's no hope for your writing quality.

Strong bait

No dumbass her "muh 9S" is because she loves him. Her existential angst is because it's her job to kill him and even when she doesn't comply he ends up dead anyway because reasons which increases her despair tenfold

Why do you feel it necessary that the game must have a cookie cutter story? It seems just as I cant sympathize with your opinions on this game, you cant sympathize on why people like it.

Nah, $15 really.

>The game needs to present this shit to me in an identifiable way, and it totally fails to
It kinda does and I have to disagree, but at this point this feels like circular arguing for the sake of disagreeing. Emotional stories are subjective by definition, you didn't care about any of 2B/9S/A2 and that's okay, because we're not working on an intellectual or philosophical level. The only meme is in not understanding emotional responses are not the same for everyone.

I'd say that's less important to the themes of the game as opposed the fact that 9S and 2B "die" all the time which doesn't bother 9S at all whereas 2B recognizes losing memories as "true death" which is what in the story makes her change her overall tone so dramatically when 9S gets captured (as a plot point he's "off grid" and gets true death if Adam kills him)

The story isn't the problem. Space aliens, androids fighting a war for a humanity that secretly doesn't even exist, robots that have given up their immortality for independence by disconnecting from the communication grid, the potential evolution of artificial life, that's all well and cool. I don't mind the story. My issue is with a game that tries to heartstrings me about its characters sacrifices and suffering but never bothers to make them likable or relatable enough to have it work.

Automata's failures are entirely of character development, but character development is where the feels all come from. You can't build an emotional beat around a character's death if that death isn't going to mean shit to the player (/viewer/whatever). In order for it to mean shit, the player has to be made to care about the character, so that they are sad to see that character taken away from them. That's what Automata never accomplishes.

It never makes me love its main cast, or hate its villains. I can tell I'm SUPPOSED to, but I just don't, because it never puts in the work to make them lovable/hate-able. It just goes "oh no, 2B is deeeeeead! AAAAUGH!" and plays some dramatic music and some screaming, but I'm watching this cutscene play out and going "oh, okay". 2B meant nothing to me, who gives a fuck if she's gone?

To take it a step further, consider the opening line of dialog of hating "God." God for the androids is Humans. 2B has no love for duty, if you read her weapon story the reason she carries it out it's because it's the only way she can stay close to 9S.

It is somewhat pottery therefore that it is the ghost of humans (the player) that ends up breaking her free of that cycle. It also follows thr lyrics of Weight of the World of a the singer crying out to "God" for help.

2B never dies except for C/D route. It's always 9S and he always ends up protecting her in some way.

Got physical Yorha edition on my ps4 for $18 but still didn't played it.

That's sort of a handwave. Yes, personal experience means different people have different tendencies to relate to certain dramas or characters, and yes some people are probably easier or harder to "get to" with a character or scenario. But the amount of memeing people do about Automata, like the game represents the absolute pinnacle of emotionally devastating storytelling, that's what gets me. People treat it like it's best-in-class at this shit, but I don't get that. It does not, in my mind, represent some sort of stand-out piece of vidya in terms of its emotional depth.

Yes, I'm sure some people were affected by it, some people are affected by all games. I bet there are people who got choked up playing Gears of War. But this is one of those games where the emotional weight of the game is all anyone talks about (besides the ass) and yet when I issue this challenge about the quality of its writing, nobody ever seems to come back with "WHAT? How were you not totally in love with XYZ after the scene in ABC?" "You mean to tell me you didn't care about 123 after you saw that part where 789?!"

No examples. Nobody is swinging back with all the shit that really touched them about the game. They just sort of insist that it was an emotional rollercoaster without ever talking about the ways in which it was an emotional rollercoaster.

I liked the first one's story way better.

Yes but the way the way the protagonists view loss of memories as true death is what all those "muh 9S" moments are in service for. They're robots, they literally just 3D print you a new body if you get trashed, and there's wifi-quicksaving. To 2B however, factory-resetting 9S would be killing him, even if he's just losing the time you spend with him from the start of the game.

The stuff you're overlooking

They're repressed militant androids, 2b repeats her mantra of 'no emotions allowed' multiple times. And yet you see her break this herself multiple times, she has feelings.
9S yearns for some kind of family or company, as he's overjoyed to be working with people despite being told to stop acting so emotional multiple times and even his non-efficient speech pattern gets him criticized by his cold by-the-book operator, yet this operator also seems to be developing an interest in having family based on her independent pursuit of human relics in her sidequest.
Adam and Eve are super intelligent children more-so than villains, kind of like everyone in the world is a child in some way, nobody is around to raise them. 2B even often implies she's evil to some extent, always mentioning she's a machine built to kill, typically remorseful self-deprecation prompts sympathy.

You say lame games make you feel so it sounds so weird to hear you not give them the chance.

That literally does nothing to enhance the game, though. It's not even mentioned in the game. You would have to explore all the additional lore outside of it, and we're arguing about picking up a game for 30 bucks. It is still enjoyable, and does a great job at being someone's first entry into a series.

What game does the endless pointless proxy war better?

I got like 150 hours out of it, definitely worth the money. There are lots of little surprises in this game, and the whole time I was playing it, I had the strong sense that whoever was overseeing it actually LIKED video games. It gave me this weird whimsical feeling I haven't gotten from a game since playing Kingdom Hearts 1 as a kid.

>It gave me this weird whimsical feeling I haven't gotten from a game since playing Kingdom Hearts 1 as a kid.
Bloodborne didn't do it for you?

Great game, so great that I went back and played Nier 1 and am ALMOST enjoying it even more, currently on playthrough B.
The characters and story are way better in 1, whereas Automata has more interesting themes, music, environments and sidequests.
I highly recommend both.

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3rd route had really shitty frame pacing but if you went back to previous ones it wasn't a problem.