Games that (mostly) didn't deserve the hate?

it was ok. i hated it at first but after playing a bit i liked it more.

DA:I was GotY because it captured the zeitgeist completely
>open world
>very cinematic
>lgbt friendly
>bioware
Remember that this was when BioWare hadn't fallen from grace just yet and people still lauded them as the best western RPG dev next to CDPR

I personally liked it a lot though, probably my personal GotY as well, a ton of content, decently enjoyable combat and cringey dialogue are really all I need to have a good time. I do play lots of MMOs so I felt right at home

DA2 is trash and a giant step down from DA:O but at least the gameplay has bits and pieces of mindless fun. DA:I is just plain mindless.

To be fair though I'd probably go back to hating DA2 as much as I used to if there any other franchises doing it's particular brand of RTWP tRPG gameplay.

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>Remember that this was when BioWare hadn't fallen from grace just yet
It was after DA2, ME3 and TOR.

It came out 2 months before ME3, so it just made the cut.

>Remember that this was when BioWare hadn't fallen from grace just yet
Excuse me? It absolutely was

Nevermind, I thought you were talking about 2.
No, Inquisition was alright but it was WELL after Bioware became shit.

>and people still lauded them as the best western RPG dev next to CDPR
Neither of them make good RPGs

What was wrong with Witcher 1 and 2?

Reflecting upon Bioware and all their games and I get the felling that they have a cure under them that says
>One step forward and two steps back
With every game they make

None of the games are really RPGs, they're action/adventure games

Fair enough

The public opinion of BioWare was still incredibly high at that point
It's not like normal people care about TOR and the blunder that was the ending to ME3 was mostly forgotten/forgiven by the general public, especially with some of the better DLC being released

I think both developers have made great games in the past, especially BioWare in its prime
Are you saying BG2 isn't a good RPG?

Bioware doesn't make good RPGs, present tense, they made some good ones in the past but haven't in a while and don't look like they will in the future. The Witcher games aren't really RPGs in the first place, they're action-adventure games.

I preferred what DA:2 was trying to do, by trying to bring a single location to life rather than smearing their creativity too thin over a whole continent, telling a high personal/low world stakes story that takes place over a believable stretch of time. It just sucks that they rushed it and fucked most of it up. Your conversations with the Qunari leader in 2 remain the high point of writing and characterisation for the series, it really felt like you were coming face to face with a believable yet thoroughly alien culture and was a relief from the overall trend 2 had of writing every character as though they are comic relief.

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>the overall trend 2 had of writing every character as though they are comic relief.
I did not feel any comic relief from Fenris or Aveline, Anders spends most of the game crying about mages and is only relaxed in the first part of the game.

>putting witcher 1 in the same category of games as nu-Raider or Uncharted
You're being a moron and you know it

>Witcher and Gothic series aren't RPG's because muh character customization
>They're the same as Sekiro, God of War, DMC etc.
Will you stop shitting up this board you pretentious twat ?

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in DA, elf+human=always human.

>I preferred what DA:2 was trying to do, by trying to bring a single location to life rather than smearing their creativity too thin over a whole continent, telling a high personal/low world stakes story that takes place over a believable stretch of time

Why do people praise DA2 for this aspect as if it's somthing revolutionary when plenty of wrpgs have such a small scale, or even smaller?

>Vampire Bloodlines takes place within a single city
>Fallout: New Vegas centers on the political turmoil in one specific area
>Planescape: Torment is actually a personal story (unlike Dragon Age 2, which is decidedly epic in scope, what with it leading to the outbreak of the mage-templar war)

>we hot rodded the art

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i remember seeing this image before the game came out and thinking all those white silhouettes were all the companions you'd get through the game....NOPE, why would anything nice ever happen?

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I don't think it is revolutionary thing to do, I think it is a superior setting/story telling aim to have. I like all the games you listed partly for this reason.

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These fuckers showing up in the demo is roughly when I realised that I wasn't going to be buying DA2

HAHAHAHA

Shems, day of the veil soon. Fuck you

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It’s, no joke, one of the worst games I’ve ever played, top 3 least polished titles I’ve ever touched

Well, Inquisition is worse.

>but I don't ever want to leave you
>I'm hungry
10/10 dialogue, I'm sorry I ever shit on this game

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