XD PvP is sooo hard I don't know what I'm doing!!! Lollll this isn't fun

>try pvp
>don't know what the fuck I'm doing, just follow the pack
>die repeatedly while people scream in chat
>quit and don't bother so much unless there is something cool like a hair style for 20k marks, and always just feed when I grind up the marks
>now learn they are removing something I had hoped I could grind up to eventually even though I probably wouldn't if it was permanent
why do they keep putting resources into this shit part of the game? Hardly anyone plays it yet it keeps getting exclusive shit

pic related, one I tried in

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No it isn't, Rival Wings is barely even PvP at that point. At least with Frontlines the objectives are simple enough for casuals to understand AND I'm constantly getting to fight people.

RW is literally "stack healers and get into giant feel good robots to get press x to win buttons". It's not fun, and it's definitely NOT PvP.

You're a retard. I don't know what else to tell you.

>fight a lala
>he clips under the floor and I can't do anything
this entire race of cheaters should be banned

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I wish Succu had more arts.

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Send me your nipples fag. Need a quick fap.

Play Feast if all you want to do is kill people. Frontlines is about playing the objectives and it's tards like you who keep chasing the enemy that keep causing your team to lose.

Shatter is objectively better because it's easy to bot.
>he actually wants MMO PvP as real content
yikes

>its an adders give flames the win because the keep autistically attack mael instead of going after whoever is in first place episode

If you play a melee class you don't fight anyone in FL, only ranged can safely do anything against the deathball that people sit in 90% of the time. RW gives melee a reason to exist by splitting the large groups up a bit.

Feast is the only PVP that matters.
People pining for FL/RW are just afraid of personal responsibility.

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>he's a fat loser faggot that wants to play mmos """""competitively"""""
Holy shit kys my man you're a blight upon the community and the world in general

I know you're awake and lurking.

FL is actually fun, because XIV's design only translates will into PvP if it's a large scaled mode. Plus the GCs add fun banter and flavor to it. RW is trash, and I feel sorry for anyone who takes Feast seriously. It's always been a laughably bad take on a 'serious' PvP mode.

Not only that, but the community is horrible and filled with win-traders and rank inflaters because the community consist of, at max, like 40 people. And half of them cheat. I've been on every major PVP discord to know.

t. top 100 player

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>paying to play a game to do bare minimum and obtain as little dopamine as possible

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I've seen melees cause some serious damage in frontlines, especially if they get battle high/fever, but I admit I don't know how they do it because every melee I see who breaks off from their party blob just gets incinerated by all the enemy ranged.

Not really. I just don't want you entering completely disregarding winning. It's like playing a game of basketball with your friends and people just keep trying to shoot from half court all the time.

I hate the discord group. They'll shit talk people behind their backs and they'll literally stop queueing when a "bad" is on.

Stop ignoring me.

Rival Wings is good fun. I like it better than Frontlines. It's needlessly convoluted though, I had to look up how to play it because I didn't know what the fuck was happening in my first match.

I learned to stop taking it seriously when half of the people in there that people like, gush over and are part of the 'cool kids' were caught win trading and nothing ever came of it. Plus I've had one too many speed hackers for me to enjoy the mode as much.

Not only that, but it's an MMO PvP mode. And FFXIV's PvP mode at that. Anyone who takes it totally seriously and a sign of pride is a delirious retard, to put it nicely. It's so niche and meaningless that you might as well brag about having a few jobs at level 70 or something.
The rewards are pretty cool tho.

NIN is pretty much the only melee that can reliably get Fever/High because assassinate scales with how low they are and resets on kill, so they can basically chain it on low health targets.

You know where to find those.
Hello! I was packing a few things.

I actually don't [email protected] send tho.

Show us your dick nerd

You think I own a smart phone?

Dragoons have Piercing Talon which does the same thing going by the description, only it's also ranged. It's a GCD skill so you can just spam it if you have the TP. No idea if it's as effective.

>Trying to get specific glamour
>Nobody runs the dungeons they drop in
>It's a DPS piece so I gotta play DPS so I don't risk it dropping and losing it to a party member
>30 minute queues every time and it never drops

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Don't bother bro, Bonewicca literally never drops. I straight gave up 30 runs in.

Done and sent, now do this.

bruh bonewicca is a current endgame dungeon, I WISH it was bonewicca.

What dungeon, what data center? I could help.

>plays the Final Fantasy MMO for casuals
>complains about casuals

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If it's 60lvl then just duo it with someone, you can even solo some of them.

I can help out if you're on primal

About 1k less damage and you don't get a lot for your TP bar, it's better to spend it on Jump.

Unless it's a 70 dungeon just solo it, I do 60 dungeons on SAM all the time.

FFXI is so cool conceptually, except fucking all of my friends left and it's a dead ass game now. Joining and paying a monthly sub to fucking grind bunnies for weeks, walk around a world with dick all in it with terrible slow combat gives me AIDS. You can 100% use trusts but fuck the combat being ass was primarily to get you to communicate so if you're using AI what's the point. I might as well load up fuckin runescape if I just wanna watch my guy auto attack for 30 seconds between specials. Please genuinely give me a reason to play XI again.

Finally managed to get a friend to agree to play this shit with me after 5 years of trying to get other people into it. Started leveling archer for the first time to play along with them, and boy I forgot how absolutely shit the early game is.
ALSO WHY ARE GRAY CATS SO FUCKING HOT?!

Reminder that the game currently meets 2 of the 3 steps to failure
>Devs falling back onto Patch it Later mentalities with the latest case being Hrothgar/Viera
>Team lacks members overall that have little to no insight into the MMORPG genre
Graphics is the only thing they don't focus on though they do seem to ignore them enough to conflict with the desired art style.

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>with the latest case being Hrothgar/Viera
I don't think they ever intended to add male viera or female hrothgar. I don't think they ever will, either.

>>Devs falling back onto Patch it Later mentalities with the latest case being Hrothgar/Viera
OF ALL THE THINGS TO PUT UNDER THIS POINT
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT FUCKING BUNNIES
NOT CONTENT REGULARLY PUSHED BACK
NOT JOB ADJUSTMENTS REGULARLY TAKING MONTHS
NO, YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT FUCKING ERP SHIT YOU FUCKING DEGENERATE DICK SUCKING TRANNY

Yes I am mad

>thinking patch it later refers to Male Bunnies/Female Lions
You shuld keep up with the news user. They've already stated that over ShB lifespan theyll slowly add the ability to wear certain helmets and eyewear to the 2 races. You can wear them only for stats but no visual glamour.

I asked for nipples not your twitter, just send me the pics man. I don't have time to wade through your twitter.
Also I don't have a smart phone.

>Races that come out in a future patch are patch it later cases
I mean...yeah?
>Team lacks members with insight into the MMO genre
Multiple members have played WoW in the past and take notes from other games. What do you want bro?

Oh, right. That. Eh.
From what I understood that's mostly them having to work around the spaghetti code 1.0 gifted us with.

>forgetting that Hrothgar and Viera wont even have visible helmets or glasses for most of the expansion
You guys really have Trannies living in your head rent-free
>taking notes
>Yoshida even admitted only 5 guys know how to make battle content
They can take all the notes they want but when they can't translate them into actual gameplay or ideas then you have a good chunk of the dev team without decent MMO insight.
>using WoW as a game to take notes

>Multiple members have played WoW in the past and take notes from other games. What do you want bro?
He wants memes like non-target combat and world pvp (that literally never ever worked) instead of a Final Fantasy game.

Quit after Heavensward. Only thing I miss is the music and comfy setting. But as a game, this really sucked.

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That's nice dearie keep us posted

>Yoshida even admitted only 5 guys know how to make battle content
It was 3 guys who can design ultimates.

yeah i feel ya. XI was a great game in it's golden age but it's past it's prime now. there are some decent private servers but going back feels... fun but weird in a way.
A lot of old XI players I know (including myself) ended up switching to Eve Online after they raised the level cap. It's got the same, old-school, difficultness that the old Zilart/CoP XI had.

>thinking non-target combat and world pvp is what is wanted
Come on now, make better bait user. Most of the complaints from players generally revolves around the lack of engaging content due to massive leap from 90% of the content being faceroll and the other 10% requiring an actual brain. They have done nothing to even expand on their most basic system of FATEs or Dungeons.
>PvP in FFXIV
Not with that combat system that fucks over melee players.
Source on that user? Last I checked they admitted around 5 people could even design the raid content or anything remotely engaging.

How does it have anything to do with code? They literally just didn't bother to remodel the headgear for the new races.

THE TEXTURES YOSHIDA THE TEXTURES

This is legit the only graphics related thing that is absolutely unacceptable in this game, how can you make a main fucking character like Hien, look at that pixelated fucking SHIT ASS COAT and think it's ok?

I think they said something about the head customization pieces for viera and hrothgar taking up the slots that equippable headgear would usually occupy, and they can't simply add more. It reminded me of equip slots in oblivion and skyrim if you ever worked around with them in the CK.

>Source on that user?
During Vegas fanfest ultimate ultima panel.

The problems with them being understaffed on battle designers is due to there literally being no one to hire, they're practically begged people to apply for positions.

its best not to look too closely

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>spaghetti code
Good to see there are still players falling for these excuses over and over. You do realize they actually made a new engine for it and dropped Crystal Tools right? They just fucked up their new "custom engine". The Dev Team coded themselves into this mess.
Refer to if you think Ultimate is the only limitation due to battle designers. They legit lack people with any good MMO insight.

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You can find them yourself, they're down towards the bottom.

>They just fucked up their new "custom engine"
No shit? They had to rebuild an MMO in 18 months from existing assets and database. Not even single-player games are made in 18 months anymore. Of course corners were cut.

why would you even play that carebear PvP? Or a fucking female sim for trannies for that matter. You have no one to blame but yourself.

You heard that inside your own head then because they said nothing of the sort. I mean we already know there's at least some headgear that works, like the Dancer AF headpiece is visible on the Viera in the dancer trailer.

What they did say is that the unique head shapes means they can't just directly plop on existing headgear models and have it work, they would have to remodel all the headgear to have special hrothgar/viera versions. Personally I'll doubt they will even get around to patching in headgear compatibility on a large scale, maybe just a few little things here and there.

server ticks and latency makes the pvp literally unplayable

>Pvp fucks over melee players
Nigger what? SAM are regularly taken because they do faceroll damage in Feast and can just straight kill most other classes and they build adrenaline stupid fast.

It's not actually their fault though, it's not like they're cheaping out and not hiring people to try and save a buck it's that there's literally fucking no one available to do the work.

The top mch players are blatantly using speedhacks anyway.

>1 month later the group still can't pass Nael divebombs

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>still believing Yoshida's lies
They literally have not remodeled the gear to fit their new unique heads. Do you think you can plop a helmet and just change the ear positioning like you do between the races?
Just bringing it up because of people spreading this false 1.0 spaghetti code nonsense as if it has any merit.
And this rectifies them fulfilling the "Lack of MMO knowledge" how exactly? In the end of the day the fact still stands that the Dev Team has hit 2 of the 3 easy steps to failure that they themselves have stated.

It doesn't change the situation, but it's not like you can get mad at them and blame them for it either, unless you expect Yoshida to go and kidnap someone and force them to do the work or something.

Depending on how much you guys raid I don't think you will be clearing ucob before ShB.

this is just anime world of warcraft with an even less capable playerbase

Are they specifically saying what the issue is with the lack of applications? I mean, designing content in this game is so methodical, I can't be convinced that it's lack of talent. Even Ultimate is just upscaling or overlapping previously existing designs/mechanics and making number requirements more rigid. I'm more likely to claim they're just bullshitting again to cut cost again, but I'd at least entertain an alternative if they fully explained what they believe the lack of applications represents.

I figured this game had such a vertical, linear design in the first place so they'd never run into this issue.

Adrenaline builds at the same rate though, you can't influence it outside of boxes.

It's Doma fashion you wouldn't understand.

Why are the dungeons DDR? I don't get this weird design where you just run away from a certain spot or run to a certain spot when it lights up on the floor

How is this fun

Everyone in Japan wants to work on gachashit, that's where the money is at the moment

Do you know how bad crunch and work ethics are in Japan? Square can totally do that

>Even Ultimate is just upscaling or overlapping previously existing designs/mechanics and making number requirements more rigid.
Oh just throw them all on screen and hope it works out is it?
Sounds easy, I guess anyone can do it really.

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>wants male viera
>gets called a tranny
hmmm...

I just spent 10 minutes looking up that card by passcode and it's an effect monster, what gives man, I wanted to see what trap was used to make that card and now my world is upside down

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My group made it through Fellruin on one day, Heavensfall in three, Tenstrike in two, Octet in one. Feels amazing man. Shame we've been stuck on adds for almost a month

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75 cap was golden age fite me

>not knowing JP work culture
Come on user, this is a weeb game. Do you think they dont work them to the bone regardless? A bit of slave labor won't look bad to them, hell it'd probably be encouraged. Anyways as it stand the fact they meet 2 of their 3 steps to failure should be of concern, regardless of whose fault it is.

desu just solo'd it three times to get it and it took me about the length of time to do that that it took for a single DPS queue. I tried solo'ing it before but I stupidly pulled everything and assumed it wouldn't work when I died. With more modest pulls it was easy.

Wait, Stormblood is where they dropped PS3 right? Why are it's textures that terrible? Ps4 can do better than that.

>7 weeks to go trying to kill UWU
>currently on Suppression
I hope we can make it

There's nothing much left after Suppression, so you should be able to clear it if your group is not full of braindeads.

I could've helped if you're on primal.

>taking 7 weeks for a glorified hw savage fight

They weren't going to redo all the textures in the game, that's a ton of work. Primary advantage from dropping PS3 was more RAM that could be used to display more effects, better boss animations and more UI elements. That's right, PS3 RAM was used up so tightly they couldn't even add the TP bars to party list without removing something else.

Eh fuck you user some people aren't as good at the game than others. At least we're still all better than 95% of the braindeads in duty finder that youll find.

Show your clear if you're so great.

Why is the Ninki Gauge such shit, bros? Why does Yoship hate Ninjas?

Nothing wrong with it

Pre-Adoulin to Early RoV was the golden age. Tons of QoL changes (Some of which even XIV doesn't have), a massive pool of horizontal gear options at cap, very diverse content structure, and major changes to stats/mechanics/jobs. The combat also started hitting its full potential around this time, to the point where just about anyone could hit capped Haste/Fast Cast. The 1-second GCD actually became noticeable when you could get 1k TP in one attack round.

>They weren't going to redo all the textures in the game

What about the new textures like Hien?

Same. Just watch youtube and download lala fapbait, you don't have to play the game to enjoy its only benefits.

Passive gain as opposed to active gain like on WAR and SAM

It's boring and passive.

>sit in ranged feast queue for an hour
>finally get a pop
>get 600'd
>back in queue for another hour

great pvp mode yoshi

>it's a "Yea Forums pretends that even the hardest content that video games have to offer is piss easy" episode

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Drop Ten Chi Jin and put ninki gain on Jugulate and NIN would be more fun.

>he's a ranged player
what you deserve for being one

all mmo pvp is carebear-tier, the fact that tryhards made up the term is hilarious and pathetically ironic

playing healer legitimately lowers my life span by a few days every match and melee sucks
maybe i'll go back to tank

user that's the entire game including endgame. It's all the same mindless easy shit.

Is there any indication that the current fight designer is going to come up with new shit, be replaced, or do something else?
None of them have been interesting or fun except o3/4/5. Then there's fights like 1 and 2 especially which are just absolutely awful.
>piss easy boss fight for 2 minutes
>piss easy add/dps phase check with like 2 mechanics
>the first phase again but a little harder

shit gets stale

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>display more effects
>better boss animations
But XIV is a fucking pinata of light vomit, it's designed so shittily. Anyone who actually tries to play the game will have them turned down to minimum.

Nothing to do

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PvP is genuine trash though

>Not having everyone else's effects turned to minimum

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playing dragoon is literally a free win

>touching XIVs pvp

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just cleared seiryu with my friends and it was cool

Congrats fella

Kenji Sudo (SCOB, Midas, O3-4, UCOB) has been absent from post-launch SB credits. Either he's gone or has been working on 5.0 stuff.

You're aware that you don't have to play casual content for retards in this game, right? I bet you don't even do Savage, let alone Ultimate, and yet you're here whining like a stupid tranny.

1.23b was so good.

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I'm working on unlocking the sightseeing log of ARR.
It's actually pretty comfy, the ARR zone have a lot of nice spots.

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Do you raid with a maleqote bard from Midgard?

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I only do this when I'm in eureka desu.

>gear breaking
>gear losing power
>exp loss
>full loot
>partial loot
>justice system with jails (some with actual trials with players)
just to name a few I've personally encountered. What's pathetically ironic is your lack of knowledge on MMOs for someone who claims to know about them.

>they will never make a fight like t7 where you had to control dps to be able to clear
mindless dps meta is so boring, especially when you can't skip stuff

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If that's the case that explains a lot. Whatever it is, hope they change this shit. Current guy's designed way too many fucking fights that are supposed to be EX trails and Savage fights to basically the same formula every time. I hate it. Even shit like tankbusters has similar timings.

This, I just won 5 matches in a row tonight. I'm only in bronze but it was free as hell.

>mfw I erp as a wind-up succ

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>check twitch
>stream title "let's check out ffxiv"
>thumbnail of castrum abania
ummmmmmm

You better be using a femlala then.

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What's the best way to level DPS alts after 60? Going back to early SB sidequests doesnt give much but queuing ismt as fast as healer or tank for dungeons.

I kind of enjoyed seiryu due to it feeling more fast paced than usual fights, unfortunately it was still too easy.

you level with a tank or healer friend

stop being an impatient ADHD fag and queue for your highest level dungeon.

Not in game, unfortunately. FFXIV RP in general is annoying as fuck because of the chatbox limit. I had someone get upset at me because I copy-pasted like 4-5 text boxes at once everytime I made a post instead of drip feeding it to them with a few minutes between each message.

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Until you get to gold and be put with platinum guys you will be facerolling other teams with melee, I think I had 80% winrate before I got to gold.

Is DRG really that free? What's it do that lets it be that way?

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spam HoH come on you nigger did you buy a jump potion and completely have no idea about deep dungeon?

Tsukuyomi and Seiryu felt incredibly easy despite some punishing mechanics. Most likely due to being trials inbetween raid tiers. Never saw enrage while progging both, it was either wipes or the clear

high burst and aoe damage
most shitty healers won't be able to save their team

Huge burst damage. Get your chaos thrust combo on them, pop blood of the dragon and then jump their ass for half their life, pop geirskogul and build up to nastrond, rinse repeat. Ranged attack does more damage the lower they are so it's a good finisher. It's just a metric fuckton of damage that is hard for inexperienced healers to deal with. They have good mobility with spineshatter and elusive jump, too.

I always thought the odd number patches were supposed to be the hard ones. 3.1, 3.3, 3.5 (although namely Thordan) were all good trials with a proper difficulty meant to fit between the second and third savage fights of their tier. Stormblood on the other hand made them easy as shit except maybe Shinryu for reasons I do not understand.

>Wanting the game to look like garbage

The only thing I've ever turned down effects for is Titan's millimeter precision stomp in Ultimate.

3.5 had the easiest Extreme trial in Heavensward by far, same as Stormblood. I have no idea why they do it that way when there's a content drought afterwards.

catch-up before the expansion

Odin was also a pretty easy fight.

Zurvan was not the easiest primal in Heavensward, that is just plain bullshit.

Is it gonna be kino?
Or is it gonna be shlock?

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Odin nebrt had an extreme version

no i raid on tonberry sorry fag

??? Urth's Fount is not extreme and was not designed to be anywhere near extreme difficulty, amigo.

Also, that guy is a fucking idiot if he thinks Zurvan is easier than Bismarck - and on the same token, if he thinks that Seiryu is easier than Lakshmi/Susano were

The only hard part of his fight was getting people to do colors right. Everything else was bottom-feeder tier.

>People still confused about raid gear when we see both a SAM and DRG weapon.

SKIP SOAR OR DISBAND

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>instead of circlets we will get headbands
>instead of asscape we will get coats
revolutionary

to be completely fair in that point of the expansion and patch cycle with a shitload of welfare gear and relics, if you couldn't pull the dps needed to skip soar you had a mental disability

Its just going to be Midan gear assets reused

Zurvan was easy. It's just that it was also punishing. That's why it wasn't fun - it was contradictory. Mechanics themselves were utterly simple, but punishment for them was disproportionate.

Midan sets were the best in the game so I don't see a problem with that.

Boy, you really are a dipshit. Nobody is saying Zurvan was that hard, but he was NOT easier than Bismarck. By my money, he was worse than Ravana as well.

And they all ain't got shit on my mans Zurvan

This was my issue with Zurvan. No matter how high I set the ilv requirement people still welfared their way in and did such shitty DPS that even solo healing with SIX DPS PLAYERS I'd have groups fail to skip Soar. It's not hard. Inability to skip soar is entirely, 100% an indication of shitty DPS.

I didn't say he wasn't easy, I said he was not the easiest. That is pretty much demonstrably true. Also, I thought Zurvan's mechanics were pretty interesting & engaging compared to, say, Nidhogg, who really only has one uniquely spicy mechanic.

Nigga, when I was farming the bird, I had pugs with 5 DPS and 1 tank unable to skip soar.
I was crying tears of blood.

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zurvan on release was DEFINITELY easier than bismarck on release

But Zurvan was the easiest EX primal ever added at the time?

You're nuts. Insane. I actually struggled with Bismarck because lol pugging without cross-world PF. Took me a good week of tries to beat it. Still think it's easier than Zurvan. I did Zurvan hundreds of times, could probably do the fight asleep, still think it's harder than Bismarck.

Am I living in some fucking la la land where everyone I ever knew agrees with me and Yea Forums does not? Is this a regional thing? Until today I have never met someone who thought any primal other than Bismarck to be the easiest HW primal.

WE FALL

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Bismarck was killed with yasha gear iirc
Most people needed Antiquated gear for Ravana tho

Man, I wish I still had the screenshots. All labeled "Zurvan Dipshit ##", probably had a dozen or so, of players insisting their DPS was fine next to the picture from their 950 dps DRG parse

Ravana pre-dated antiquated gear, but beating him stopped being special when it came out. Of course by that point it didn't matter anyway since the antiquated weapons were better than Ravana weapons

you fuck up in bismark
>you die
you fuck up in zurvan
>lol vuln stack it's fine :)

you don't have enough dps in bismark
>you die
you don't have enough dps in zurvan
>lol you just have to do an extra mechanic, no biggy :)

everyone you know either never did bismark on release or is just legitimately fucking trash at zurvan lol

>someone mentions that the two new races are unfinished and can't even wear headear
>this genius has a mental breakdown about trannies
have sex

Not only is Zurvan harder than Bismarck he's also harder than Sophia. I don't know why Yea Forums always does this shit where they always say the most recent thing is the easiest, as if they're trying to prove something.

>you fuck up in zurvan
>>lol vuln stack it's fine :)
More like you die and now there's not enough people to do the mechanic which cascades vuln ups out making more people die.

This.
One guy messing up colors was already a wipe anyway.

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He's not though, Sophia at least had a unique mechanic which confused a lot of retards

What kind of ultra crack are you smoking? Solo healing Zurvan was hard because the group was just dead if anybody fucked up their color, or if anyone pointed the beam into the whole group. Shit, half the time you'd wipe to all that bullshit even in a group with two healers. What is there to fuck up in Bismarck? Oops, I'm a fucking idiot and killed the bubble when I shouldn't have? Didn't stand in the middle? Bismarck is mechanically simple in two ways, there's few mechanics and what do exist are shallow. Just a bunch of boring add fighting with some DPS checks thrown in.

How in the fuck does failing DPS checks in Bismarck equal a wipe and not an extra mechanic? You know you can skip the entire last round if your DPS on the back is high enough right?

>perfectly balanced
>highest skill ceiling activity in the game
>no gcd or server tick bullshit
>1v1 with games ending in 5 minutes.
reminder that lord of verminion is the only real pvp in this game.

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t.never cleared zurvan ex.

>you fuck up in zurvan
>>lol vuln stack it's fine :)
What planet am I living on? Not only does fucking up on Zurvan kill you, it's also virtually guaranteed to wipe the party. A single mistake on Zurvan is practically unrecoverable except at a few very specific moments.

>not pressing buttons is fun

Yeah I gotta agree, not just because of the tilting but I just think Sophia is harder than Zurvan overall. Sophia also being a fight I did hundreds of times. At least she's got a good song. You know what, so does Zurvan. Penultimania fucking rules.

Sophia and Construct 7 already proved that the average FFXIV players can't into basic math

grrrrr I just need a couple tarnished lenses and I keep losing the rolls

Please stay on your containment board on /vg/

>I had someone get upset at me because I copy-pasted like 4-5 text boxes at once everytime
Really? I keep wondering if anyone would, yet to meet one but I don't really make a point of fishing for strangers and mostly RP with my EB. I'm really not a fan of drip feeding the char limit instead of just pre-typing the whole thing.

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You ever have a 20 minute argument about whether or not 1 is a prime number with a furious WAR who keeps trying to Shirk you not realizing you can just Lucid the threat away?

That was a fun Ridorana.

Certifiable fact: if you want to win the roll, you have to do the worst in the group. Works great on primal mount drops, that'd be how I got Seiryu dog

>Shame we've been stuck on adds for almost a month
>do hatch
>do rp
>stack for megaflare, repeat x2
>hurr so hard

nigga what, normal nael is harder than adds, get it together

>Zurvan was hard because I'm shit at solo healing :(
ok
Think about this. If you fucked up in Bismarck and got knocked off it didn't have baby shit like where you could be ressed. You were DEAD dead.

I cleared it the day it was released.

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Who's your dealer?

I guess they enjoyed getting the response in bits sooner than waiting longer or they couldn't preemptively write up a response of their own.

>Not raiding at 10:30PM on a tuesday

That's a yikes from me dawg. Did you ever solo heal it? I'm curious because you would know that mistakes are close to unrecoverable in the last phase when solo healing. So if you fuck up in Bismarck you're dead for the rest of the pull, which is fine because if you're that dumb you were dead weight anyway. Meanwhile in Zurvan, if ANYONE fucks up it's dollars to donuts the ENTIRE party is fucked, which ends the pull anyway. I'm going to assume the answer is no, since you seem to be the kind of autist pulling the FFLogs card. I can attest that solo healing Zurvan will absolutely trash your median with really low healer parses :^)

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It absolutely was the easiest trial by far. But a lot of people came into the game around the time when it was the most recent trial and the others had been outgeared. As a result, a lot of bad players clogged up PF for it and you got the whole SKIP SOAR thing where retards couldn't handle a simple mechanic.

I bet that accounts for you as well. Bet you didn't do each of the trials when they were recent.

>Raiding past the shitter catchup patch in the patch cycle
That's a huge yikes from me. Why would I be raiding when we had a12s on farm since week 2? Everyone already had what they wanted at that point, why continue?

Tops are almost always trash in this game, but it might be nice to have more shorts for boys. The girls will have to put up with skirt and hooker boots for the millionth time.

>The girls will have to put up with skirt and hooker boots for the millionth time.
You joke but there's a pretty small selection of skirts in the game. Thigh highs also aren't all that common, at the very least ones without cluttered design. Unless we count tank boots.

>Buying clears

Imagine being so pathetic.

lads how much hair clipping should you tolerate with headgear before you decide to go with something else?

Nice joke, girls will get the same things as the guys because they can't be bothered to make cute thing sfor girls unless they are level 1 fotm glams.

My child, if you weren't doing min synced coils with your group of friends to kill time until Stormblood, you just weren't living.

I am curious, speedlord, what's your fastest Zurvan kill? Of course by this point we're completely off-topic but it seems you're giving up on your shitty "Zurvan easier than Bismarck" arguments anyway

Really? You think there were more new players in 3.5 than at 3.0, the launch of the expansion? Do you have a single fact to back that up?

You sound like a fag.

what's the point in speedrunning primals for babies when you could speedrun the actual tier?

Imagine accusing someone of buying a clear for the easiest primal added into the game

Don't care. Arena pvp is retarded.
Either world pvp or bust.

I don't know, you definitely have the makings of some of the folks I sold Zurvan to. Unwarranted attitude and lack of fight understanding you have demonstrated very clearly by this point.

I asked because I wanted to get an indication of how experienced you were with the fight and the extent to which you mastered it. We're not talking about Creator, we're talking about Zurvan (and it being harder than Bismarck). That you are avoiding the question gives me a pretty clear answer anyway.

You can go home this summer, my friend. The wait is almost over. Too bad I have to be torn between Classic & ShB and probably won't have time to play either.

I wish fotm glams were actually good for a change. Most of the stuff I've worn this expansion is from HW or ARR.

they tried with quaintrelle, but it was ugly, then males cried they were oppressed and got their own quaint outfit, now everything is gender neutral aka for guys like combat gear

You guys aren't even discussing which Primal's the easiest any more, just awkwardly trying to flex on each other harder in the most cringe way possible. Reconsider your life choices.

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Some of them are okay. Castrum Abania has some god-tier weapon glamours, a lot naturally suited the glams I already had from HW which was a big plus.

I can't get my waifu Midan Mask of Striking on my Tonberry character since nobody wants to do A6S anymore. Feels bad man.

There was never a discussion. Bismarck was the clear answer from the beginning. Then some guy started listing all the reasons he thought Zurvan was easier, which really just listed all the reasons he didn't know what the piss he was talking about, then started deflecting when everyone questioned his lack of understanding.

>I asked because I wanted to get an indication of how experienced you were with the fight and the extent to which you mastered it.
Experienced enough to clear it day one with a ragtag group of friends and a couple static members, which is exactly my point. You didn't need any amount of experience to clear it because it was fucking easy. I have tanked, healed and DPSed it as well as tanked, healed and DPSed bismark. Bismark is harder on all three fronts hands down.
>bismark has tank swaps you need a brain for
>has mechanics you need at least two functional human brains for
>if you fuck up in it you're dead for the rest of the pull
Zurvan is way, way more retard friendly than bismarck

Complaining about an unequal number of options is perfectly legitimate no matter who does it, but they also said that one was already done but to be released in the following update, which it was. To me the funny thing about the quaintrelle set is the male version is far more versatile than the abomination they gave the girls.

I mean we obviously don't agree but this retard raid tranny won't take that for an answer and bringing up his parses and sales

Extreme trial difficulty:

Garuda: 5/10
Titan: 8/10
Ifrit: 5/10
Ultima: 7/10
Leviathan: 4/10
Ramuh: 6/10
Shiva: 6/10
Gilgamesh: 1/10 lol

Bismarck: 4/10
Ravana: 6/10
Thordan: 10/10(Hardest extreme trial in the game)
Sephirot: 8/10
Nidhogg: 7/10
Sophia: 7/10
Zurvan: 4/10

Lakshmi: 3/10
Susano: 4/10
Shinryu: 9/10
Byakko: 5/10
Tsukuyomi: 6/10
Suzaku: 7/10
Seiryu: 3/10

God I fucking miss thordan so fucking much it was so well designed now we just get actual fucking garbage on a plate pretty garbage, at least

You are correct.

>Sephirot harder than Nidhogg
???

Please, please stop. You are embarrassing yourself. Bismarck's tank swap with the Sanuwas? That's just matching colors and reacting, the same exact shit you have to do in Zurvan, except instead of organizing 8 people into a semi-adapted-on-the-fly scramble for some tower positions, it's just a fucking Shield Lob you have to do. Then like 45 seconds later you press Provoke. Gee, that was hard.

You seem to think every fuck-up you can do in Bismarck knocks you off the edge. Is there even a singular mechanic outside the one add thing and the rain phase push from center that forces you off the edge? Hop off the back a little too late? I tell you, only one of those is reasonable to get wrong, but if you can't piece together why the whole group is in the middle and you aren't...

>Suzaku
Man, speaking of retard checks... that fight is Retard Check (Extreme). Good times all around. I also happen to think Sophia was harder than Sephirot, as was Nidhogg.

Have you tried min sync Thordan? It's quite brutal.

because it is
all you had to do In nidhogg was use the safety triangles

Shinryu was great too tho

guess how i know you are a heavensbaby

>suzaku
>7
Yeah, this list doesn't look right.

Sophia is way too high. It was 4-manned during Creator even without capped gear.

Dilate

You obviously didn't do those fights when they were relevant, or if you did you had a static at the time.

The fact that Sephirot has permadeath combined with DPS checks very late in the fight is what makes it harder than all the later HW extremes.

Yeah I agree, but Thordan holds a special place in my heart. The game was just better back then and they hadn't destroyed my favorite class yet.

But Sophia gets so many people tilted! :^)

Wasted potential. The hardest Stormblood primal, but still too easy for my taste. Of course, it all depends on where you draw the difficulty line between a fight that's genuinely hard or just hard to beat because nobody has a damn brain. Like Suzaku!

What do you expect from raidtrannies?

>nidhogg harder than sephirot

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You have autism and no one should respond seriously to you.

>suzaku and sophia are 7s
what the shit did you experience to put them up that high?

Only one worth mentioning is Shinryu imo. That fight is Savage-tier easily.

I don't remember Sephirot very well - what knockback was there besides Pillar of Heaven (?) that would enforce the permadeath?

I do think it was hard, but not that bad. Maybe I just don't remember it well. I might take back that it's easier than Nidhogg though, I'm struggling to remember a hard part of Nidhogg other than the Fang & Claw nonsense.

Speaking of Nidhogg, look at you seethe. Putting even Nidhogg's angry boi status to shame

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*AHEM*
FIXED Extreme trial difficulty:

Garuda: 5/10
Titan: 8/10 (10/10 Before latency fix patch)
Ifrit: 5/10
Ultima: 6/10
Leviathan: 4/10
Ramuh: 7/10
Shiva: 6/10
Gilgamesh: 1/10 lol

Bismarck: 5/10
Ravana: 6/10
Thordan: 10/10(Hardest extreme trial in the game)
Sephirot: 8/10
Nidhogg: 7/10
Sophia: 3/10
Zurvan: 2/10

Lakshmi: 1/10
Susano: 3/10
Shinryu: 9/10
Byakko: 5/10
Tsukuyomi:5/10
Suzaku: 6/10
Seiryu: 2/10

Should have mentioned I'm talking about clearing them in DF/PF when they were relevant. Sophia was a pug killer even if statics found it lenient.

PF.

>getting absolute destroyed by an ANIME GIRL poster of all things.

Absolutely paid for carries. Hilarious.

We are talking about encounter difficulty and not how hard they are to clear with a group of retards.

Wrong, the other list was correct.

we know you're samefag because you're reddit spacing tranny
go to /vg/ if you want attention

How the fuck is PvP hard? They dumbed it down so much its literally just time your burst with the other dps on your team and thats it. It used to be so much better when you had full access to your skills.

I like both MNK and NIN :)

We don't bother responding seriously to you because you are an autistic tranny. Kill yourself.

Sophia was actually the only trial pug could do.
rip raid finder, over 50 clears with it

>he doesn't have the season 1 feast set from when PvP was good
Explain yourselves Yea Forums...

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>min sync Thordan
>brutal
holy shit what have you even cleared uwu or ucob? LOL

Encounter difficulty is 100% based on how the group coordinates and cooperates. There is no "objective" difficulty separate from the measure of how hard the fights are to clear with retards. The two are inextricably linked.

>You want attention! Meanwhile let me post a big list starting with *AHEM* like a teenager to spout my opinion that was already dismantled bit by bit
I'll let the other guy show you that you're wrong on the desperate samefag card, and instead offer you some advice: Just give it up, man, everyone is going to judge you a lot worse if you keep going than if you just drop it.

I made macros for Sophia because I just didn't trust anyone else to count the meteors properly. Boy, what a good decision that was. I probably still have those damn macros. That was when you could stack a whole bunch of s and they'd play in sequence and take forever, that ensured even the most braindead PF dragoon couldn't ignore the macro.

>literally showing the wintrader set when light party was a thing
show me the solo queue one or kill yourself, pedo cheater

I didn't wintrade though, we just waited until King Stefan wasn't queuing and shit on noobs over and over

One person fucks up tilts, you res them and keep going.
One person pulls their tether just a little too far, party wipe 15 seconds later.

All you faggots seem to love to do this thing where you judge a fight's difficulty in a vacuum, by just looking at the description of mechanics and then deciding how hard that would be for you personally to execute. You approach with the assumption that everyone else in the party just does it perfectly, but virtually every fucking fight in the game is a fucking cakewalk if that's your starting point. If you have two fights that are otherwise mechanically identical but one is more punishing of failure than the other, that's the harder fight.

Just drop this embarassing self-fellating bullshit where you constantly have to act superior towards anonymous posters on an anonymous image board by making sure everyone knows how easy you think everything is.

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pvp was never good, just slightly more complex

If so many people in feast are bad, you should have no trouble at all succeeding, and yet the majority of people that try, don't.

And no, there aren't 100+ cheaters.

Only scummy, shit people seem to do or enjoy the feast

Based

Ah the old, if you call me out you're a samefag, followed by the reddit spacing meme.
Nice.

agreed, but at least it was better than what we have now. i had 600+ matches in original wolves den and havent touched pvp once since it got revamped.

g-guys we're not queue dodging w-we're just gatekeeping the wintrading shitters p-promise....

I've been top 100 multiple times, it's just about grinding it out every single day. I've beaten people that were literally top 10 just because they queue'd up with an autistic healer.
It's just boring to log in every day, lose 2 win 3 and then log out again.

>Slightly
At least it was better than 8 skills and no CC because retards couldn't fucking fathom they needed to click purify on their healer
I didn't enjoy the process of getting it but I enjoy showing off my rare exclusive PvP set
I did really enjoy flaming people and camping in the back with coins in solo queue though

>Can't start UCOB because 5.0 might completely fuck it up and make it unclearable
How hard would it be to keep jobs as they are atm JUST for the Ultimate fights?

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sure
show me any other feast reward you got then, great player
oh wait, you obviously can't lol

Who is talking about everything being easy? Me? I'm talking about Bismarck and Zurvan being easy. Regardless of this whole shitstorm about which of the two is easier, I think everyone can agree they were both pretty easy. I really don't understand this post. Is this argument so weak because you're so angry? You're saying that Bismarck is more punishing (debatable), so it's harder because mechanically they're the same? In what universe are Bismarck and Zurvan mechanically the same? Or even similar?

On the subject of Sophia tilts, it really is a shame it wasn't permadeath like every other arena knock-off before it. That said, with all the tilt mechanics it would have been a little goddamn ridiculous for Sophia in particular, so I understand the decision. Still, that's no excuse for later fights - Shinryu, for example, should have permadeath when you fall off but it doesn't. Feels bad man.

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Funny thing is you replied to two of my posts here, but they weren't the two you thought were the same person. Dumb tranny.

if you dont enjoy it stop supporting it with your money. its really that simple.

Just how fucking low do your standards have to be to PvP in XIV of all games?

Light party has always been a complete joke.
youtu.be/56ENTCOP3Fo

Probably not very hard since skill swap is already implemented for PVP but I doubt that's going to happen. They'll either unlock it or dump echo on it.

Why would I keep playing the shit mode when I already got the most rare and exclusive set of them all..?

once you hit gold you go from fighting the people who are still trying to farm garo things to people who do FRC. This is my first season and it's kind of frustrating.

Why would they make it unclearable? If anything the fight will be easier with any changes they make be cause 99.9% sure combat is getting dumber down further

I have, I'm just saying getting top 100 is essentially "how long have you been grinding since week 1" and nothing else.
Feast is filled with speed hacking healers my man.

yoshi said they will temporarily disable ultimates to rebalance them for the new job adjustments
either now or never

Anyone can beat anyone else once or twice. Even though you can carry, some matchups are literally just unwinnable, it's not hard to beat a top player once or twice.

Beating them consistently without doing some sort of queue manipulation fuckery is different.

>combat is getting dumber down further
This means less cooldowns for NECESSARY mitigation and healchecks. DPS checks will probably be easier though yeah.

>99.9% sure combat is getting dumber down further
Do you have a single snack to satisfact that up

that isn't even me anymore dude

why are you still replying to this tranny

Not particularly, it's very very possible to get a shitty healer four or five times in a row. Feast, especially top 50+ boils down to which of the healers can handle switch up betters/what tank can CC smart enough.
The only DPS that can truly carry is like MCH because they're just fucking busted.
Almost all Melee are useless against a good healer besides like MNK.

Some things become harder with job changes & min syncing. For example, I was busting my balls in min sync Thordan because of how Shield Oath was changed in Stormblood - I can't generate enough gauge in Shield Oath to build Sheltron for the first buster, so I had to do the pull in Sword Oath and still BARELY had time to do it.

Some jobs are also just plain worse at level 60 than they were in Heavensward. So, I could see how the same thing might happen in ShB with UCOB. Still, I would expect UCOB to become easier, not harder.

I was too busy farming FL for my 5k kill tittle and queuing for Seal rock as well for the Field commander set

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I don't really care. There's a few fellas in this thread who think Bismarck is harder than Zurvan, they're all wrong, they've all been shown why they're wrong, and at least two of them are still desperately throwing pot shots because they just won't sleep tonight if they don't get the last word. Reply if you like, I'll give you the last word since it will help you feel better.

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guess how i know you never cleared any

My group of pretty much newbies raids once a week doing all the content in order and Thordan has fucked us up for many months. I'm glad it's at least considered really tough, I'd be more embarrassed otherwise

>that tranny healer that touts their gamer expertise in the babby game of xiv
fucking yikes why is this such a common thing? the cope is so bad it makes me cringe, unironically kys

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>getting dumber down further
Oh no they've already started dumbing down the playerbase clearly

Both healer and melee are straight up the best carry roles, and every season top 10 is always filled with them. As a melee you have the single best button in the game that lets even the biggest of morons get kills, on top of having the most frequent burst windows.

All the ranged ones are far too strict, they require more setup and have cast times or need to be done within a certain time window.

Also MNK is probably the shittiest of the melee. Their big strength is their burst is very easy and very fast, it's two off GCDs back to back, but the recovery from it sucks hard. It takes a MNK a lot longer than a DRG who can burst constantly, or a SAM who requires less GCDs to get to their midare. NIN does the least damage of the 4, but at the very least they have CC and cheese with hide LB.
MNK excels in lower ranked matches where healers have no idea how to handle a lot of damage going out at once, and you can basically solo people in the shitter ranks.

>anything in hw being hard beside midas

I want pre nerf MNK back

>come back to HW
>half way through the story
>hit 60 on my PLD
>decide to take a break and get my ARC to at least 50
>run dungeon and am getting huge amounts of exp just from mobs
So I take it they changed this to allow quick leveling? Because I don't recall being able to level 3 times during one dungeon run. Then again, the last time I really played was the week HW released with small spurts since.

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sam feels shitty for me I can't tell if I'm playing it wrong most of the time when the fuck am I supposed to midare and is higanbana useless? also which traits are best? i usually take the hpshit and the dumb shield with attack because it feels like i get bursted way too hard.

kill yourself avatartranny

this selfie added absolutely nothing to your post
if you need to attentionwhore you can go to /vg/

please learn to speak english instead of spamming buzzwords like a cunt

It's almost like you faggots got kicked out of reddit. You don't belong here leave.

I want pre-Sigma MNK back. I kinda didn't like MNK in Stormblood over HW, it just didn't feel Monkish for some reason. But I just can't stand 60s PB, Wind Tackle (which admittedly was pretty much useless) and all this newfounded Tornado Kick wizardry that has arisen from it. It feels like a completely different job.

okay and now that i've actually read those posts it looks like you are talking about PvP please disregard my comments here

This is called the armory bonus, it's always been in the game. Any time you're on a job lower than your highest-level job, you get a juicy XP bonus.

Stop giving him attention. Let him have this, he needs it or he won't leave.

They are trying too hard to fit in, but so are you.

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You midare in sync with your team, higanbana for downtime because sustained damage still adds up.
As for what traits a lot of it is personal preference but I think increases resistance duration should be mandatory. 15 secs of CC immunity instead of 10 is huge. The rest can be any combination of Damage/defensive traits, they barely make a difference.

>Armory bonus
Didn't know that, The last time I played was when you had to have secondary classes to get important abilities. So I only really have PLD and WHM leveled and never really did anything else.

>fit in
Get out.

>they barely make a difference.
I hate this.
The pvp bonus you would get on your pvp skills was nice in the 3.X system, it gave a sense of progression as well.

>80 pulls on nael
>only just now got it down
>see heavensfall twice every raid night in a 3 hour period
couldn't be moving any slower. hope when they do class changes in shb i don't have to relearn bard or play something else

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you can keep your shitty avatarposts for yourself
nobody wants to see your incel taste second life tranny self-insert

t. ranny

you most likely will
also heavensfall onwards is the hardest part of the fight so good luck

Pls no bulli, you know I'm right. See how you're also trying to be exclusive? That's another part of trying to fit in.

What? You went straight from beating Nael to Heavensfall trio? That is lightning fast prog, my dude. Heavensfall and adds will be your biggest roadblocks, maybe Tenstrike if your group's brains are too puny to do the line strategy well. Don't give up anonymous!

>all of this tryhard
I get that most of you newfags on Yea Forums instinctively visit /pol/ but can you fuck off.

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t. /pol/tranny
go back

The first few trios aren't very hard after Nael.

>50 days to find a group and clear ucob, learning from nothing
I want to, but i'm realistic

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Honestly, I would be worried if I was a BRD main now.
The class feels so great to play right now that I can't see what they can add to it without erasing some stuff.

Yeah the old ones were much more high impact, but gating them behind levels was awful. If you had just started out, you would just straight up be worse than someone who had pvped for longer, and not just from experience. Their skills were literally better than yours.
One thing I think SB did right in terms of pvp was getting rid of any outside advantages like gear or traits.
I hope in the future we'll get some job exclusive traits to choose one for variety instead of the generic ones we have right now though.

>my /pol/ boogieman
rent free

>muh trannies
I have to wonder if the people spamming this epic new meme are aware of how obvious it makes their idiocy to everyone else.

extremely unlikely unless your group is really good or you raid almost every day

I'm retarded I meant quickmarch. Forgot there's like 6 variations before you even fight adds. Lucky the divebombs arent that hard but going through 7 minutes of nael bullshit because someone put a divebomb wrong is making me gouge my eyes

do people not just call them anything else besides 'adds' because twin would sound like twintania or something? because from a wow bg it has more of a council feel from what i've seen

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>want to farm out A8s gear
>everyone else who joins is bad and can't do enough damage to skip Gavel
>they also fuck up the orb stack
I hate you all, I just want my weapon and coat

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I would feel way more inclined to farm glamour gear if they just 1:1 copied the transmog system from World of Warcraft like they did the battle system and everything else

Like fuck can the spaghetti code really just not take a picture of every piece of gear you got and give you an image of it FUCK OFF AHHH THERE ARE SO MANY COOL PIECES AND I HATE THE WARDROBE SPACE SO MUCH THERE'S LIKE 4 CLASSES I WANT TO MAKE LOOK COOL

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>Those people screaming and crying about how normal mode Shinryu was too hard for MSQ
I wonder if they feels shameful now

They don't. They are the sort of people who are so edgy that the are unaware of it. They honestly believe what they post is funny.

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it's just adds because you kill them off while bahamut charges enrage teraflare

>everyone thinks trannies are just a maymay!
trannycope loool

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How many pulls on average does it take for people to kill UCOB?

No, but calling anyone and everything a tranny like you're doing just outs you as a dumb shitposter. Keep your powder dry.

>Shinryu does absolutely nothing new
>retards still struggle with it
what you need to understand is that the average player is breathtakingly stupid, when they can't beat something after the first 2 wipes, they cry for nerfs, these fuckers can't even do that Y'shtola instance without crying about it.

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Yes, but that's still very fast. Especially for three hour raid nights. I'd have expected at least a night each on Quickmarch & Blackfire.

You can do it! My group had 6/8 members cleared when we beat the fight even though we started at 1/8 and just lost that many fucking people since then. It's frankly a little ridiculous.

Actually, I also object to the use of the word 'adds', but absolutely everyone calls them that. It seems like a disservice to Nael Deus Fucking Darnus and Twintania to imply they are puny adds like what you get in T13.
By my book, in difficulty, it goes Heavensfall Trio > Tenstrike > Blackfire > Grand Octet > Quickmarch > Fellruin. You can do Fellruin in one night, its really that easy.

Adds is a clusterfuck of mechanics with preposterous autoattack damage going out. But it's not very council-like... the phase doesn't last long enough.

You are a super retard. You are giving them attention. That means they're winning. Don't you understand that?

Hundreds and hundreds. This is like 2 months of prog at the minimum. Its a tough fight.

Fuck mahjong and fuck you, I'm not going to waste my time learning some gay Chinese tile game in a subscription based game.

Alright since I know you fags are usually good with computers.

I just bought

-prime z370-a ii
-i7 CPU
- 1060 6GB
-Gold power supply
- 16GB Ram

and a cooling system.

Is this shit good enought o play this game at 60 fps?

>calling anyone and everything a tranny
Nice deflection avatartranny

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>That bed

Jesus fucking christ, how can his skin be so white and well taken care of and his bed look like it has constant shit stains everywhere.
How do these people live?

>you are giving them attention
>that means they are winning
Not really, Get them to post retarded shit enough and they honestly start to believe it. It then affects their personal lives. Seen it happen quite a bit. Eventually it hits them hard enough they lose themselves. Also don't be an autist and reply to that many people at once.

The gay Chinese version of the gay Chinese tile game is less annoying to learn.

Were you born yesterday? Have you ever heard the expression "don't feed the trolls" in your life? You know that phrase came about for a reason, right? You can play whatever mental gymnastics you like, the reason we have this plague of idiots spamming the word tranny is because people like you give them exactly what they want you.. you... tranny

>don't feed the trolls
You have to be a literal newfag to honestly believe this.

>wintrading
That has been true for any mmo I've played. play mostly only pvp in mmo's and end up generally somewhere top 20% and i've seen wintrading in any mmo from 300 players game to wow. Cheating with hacks is mostly limited to popular games because the people who develop it do it for money and thus won't target ultraniche games with low players but wintrading is already bad enough by itself when you only got 20 people potentially competing for rank 1 since it become so easy to dodge others and wintrade yourself to 1.

Oh and on the matter of bg's in ff14 - you can create premades and stomp randoms. And most randos don't play objectives which trivializes it.

>just ignore them that's why they say it, not because it's true
fucking trannies and your mental illness copes, I mean it's to be expected, yes everyone believes you you only play girls because you're not gay yes sure, but holy shit is it still bad to witness nonetheless

which i7 cpu you shithead?
And yea probably as long as you got a halfway decent CPU.

im going to die of old age before they release the benchmark

Sorry senpai.

Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake 6-Core 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I78700K.

This good?

Didn't know that I could make my chocobo fly.

...

More than enough.

I had to run a lvl60 dungeon 70 times to get the mch chest piece. Ask fc members or friends if they want to tag along for a few runs as tank/healer, even 1 run helps.
Tried soloing but takes way too long, unsynced duo however is a lot faster.

you're going to need to copy/paste the entire amazon ad before I'll be able to tell you

hard to say
realistically within 100 hours of prog

>Sightseeing number 5
>You need to be on 2 pixel on top of a fence to get the vista
What the fuck?

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lol gitgud loser

And certain jumps in this game are much more difficult or downright impossible if you're above 30 FPS.

Thanks.

No bully I have autism.

I hate the ARR logs. Done with both HW and SB, but ARR's are stupid. A certain time during certain weather in an unmarked location, also there are fucking 80 of them.

>teammates jumping off of heliodrome
Just kill me.

I'm only missing 2 from the first 20 to unlock the next 60, but they only open in 4 and 7 hours ;_;

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>Tsuku lower than Suzaku
lol what

Can i find a gf in this game?

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Based
Thordan was top tier.
God i miss HW so fucking much bros....

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this

enjoy your shit blue mage, fags

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Once you figure out the "puzzle" behind Tsuku phase 3 it's a joke to execute

yeah they'll be obese/very round and have (more) mental problems (than women usually have) and also maybe a kid or three, or they'll be a tr*nny

>Shinryu: 9/10
that fight is fucking boring until the last 2 minutes though, its honestly very disappointing after how good Thordan was

Don't even know if I want to bother trying.The weather aspect is just too much buillshit. 5/80 now and it's daunting me into apathy.

Why does this have to be the only good anime MMO?

>anime MMO

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ff xi blu
>cool story quests
>extremely customizable job with tons of different magical and physical spells and buffs and debuffs
>what skills you have even modify your stats
>fucking sick aesthetic
>can actually play the fucking game with it
>combat in ff xi is actually somewhat tactical so farming mobs for spells feels like less of a chore than in xiv

ff xiv blu
>story quests are forgettable as fuck and the main NPC dude in it is boring as hell
>literally a minigame job/gimmick
>can't even do content like palace of the dead with it cause fuck you
>over half of the skills are the exact same with slightly different potencies and elements (elements only matter in carnivale)
>the carnivale, the whole thing this "job" is designed around is boring and not difficult at all
>boring uninspired phantom thief aesthetic, AF chestpiece looks almost just like recolored RDM AF

how did they fuck it up THAT much bros.. i would have even been happier if they just made it so we learned monster skills through job quests in XIV rather than the trash we got now

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I fucking knew I wasn't going insane when this healer was dashing around the map like sanic and never stopping

>play game designed for brainlets
>mad that brainlets play the game too

Same with Suzaku.
Tsukuyomi required you to have correct positioning for three different mechanics or the group wiped, it had the pepsi gimmick, plus final phase ins and outs and lefts and rights that you had to memorize.
Suzaku on the other hand? There was the birds (and you could fuck up one of them just fine), rhythm game literally didn't matter, simon says required you to rotate your camera, the only hard thing was paying attention to the push/pull.

>XIV
>good
It's not even good, it's just barely okay.

There's a speed hacking healer right now on the rop 100 ranking board for crystal. Guys been doing it since day one.

yet it's the best thing on the market at the moment cause bfa is trash, and eso just has awful gameplay, some people enjoy eso though i guess

>cool story quests
understatement of the year

youtu.be/es-cbZRP8NA

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>combat in ff xi is actually somewhat tactical
hahahahahahahaha sure a game with a 10s gcd is tactical

Is synched Thordan really that hard? I was 30 ilvls overgeared for him at the time, but I could at least train people to fight him for bird farms. I STILL, to this day, cannot get people to understand Sephirot even 160 ilvls over his ass.
Thordan is still my favorite fight though, ran it so much I could have bought the bird with tokens.

>FFXI has a GCD
lolwut

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did you even touch ff xi ever

It was slower but it was punishing to the point where if you didn't do things perfectly you'd get fucked over hard. It still maintained tension. That's why it was tactical. The battles (were) relatively slower but you had to go over the fight in your head alot and keep track of one or two things with high precision or you'd die which was very punishing as well. It made for still-engaging gameplay that also gave you time to talk and didn't kill your brain with braindead rotation spam.

>xi boomers hour
go to bed

>AST with MNK/BLM shittercomp
>Can't even AoE feathers in Garuda and speed is way down
>Will never parse above purple despite tryharding
Now I have a SCH who hates healing in ucob.

>make a thread about how XIVtards can't handle basic tasks
>be surprised when people bitter at how you ruined FF MMORPGs arrive to make fun of you too

Yoshi-P should be hanged by a lightpost alongside the outsource studio who ruined 1.0s

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>tfw there will never be another mmo with semi-turn based tactical like combat cause WoW is the standard for every fucking mmo now and no one dares to try anything new

mmos are unironically dead

>gave you time to talk
you can talk just fine in ffxiv, its not my fault it's too hard for you that -you- can't. That's what we call projection.

A lot of thordan was dps/mit checks. Thordan isn't quite as puzzly as Sephirot mechanics, there's just a whole lot more of them. Don't know how you found it easy to teach last phase to people. I've tried at least 4 times to teach pug tanks how to do the fucking Spear, and I've suceeded only once.

spotted the grey percentile

>typing in 2 second gaps
lol
ok
thx catboi
alright
howru

high quality chat my friend

That's not the point niger. I have a decent type speed; I can give off little bits of text while playing as MNK even. That's different than having a decent conversation with people while maintaining full uptime (unless it was endgame bird meriting).

What else is good? WoW? OSRS?

11 failed financially, 14 made money
all that really matters. It's the same issue with wow - they dumbed the game down massively over the last expacs. Nobody develops for top 10% because mmo's need mass market appeal which means catering to shitters.

>11 failed financially, 14 made money
What the fuck lol? FFXI was 100% profit and kept square afloat during their turbulent late PS2/PS3 years as FFXII took forever and FFXIII bombed. Then 2010 rolled around and FFXIV bombed, while FFXI still had 300-500k subs.

Subtract FFXIV 1.0 from FFXIV ARR and I wouldn't be surprised if SE is still in the red on it. All that work on the Crystal Engine, just to be wasted like that.

>11 failed financially,

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This game is suffering for someone who works third/night shift.

I HATE TO LEVEL GATHERERS
>9x chance to get something
>Fail
>Fail
>Fail
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

XIV's community is easily the worst thing about it

Nothing. Maybe runescape or some classic private server for some other old MMO if you can get one with decent population and not too many cheaters/multi-boxers/mega autistic monopolizing oldfags.

eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-25-ff11-is-the-most-profitable-final-fantasy-ever

Note that there's no data from after 2012, probably because Square Enix is afraid of revealing exactly how much money they squandered on FFXIV 1.0 before they nuked it with a meteor

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Have they shown DRG AF4 yet?

>Don't know how you found it easy to teach last phase to people
It wasn't easy, just doable. Perhaps I was just playing at a time where the ratio of shitters was low. I actually did try a seph run today since I'm missing his bird, but I cannot for the life of me get people to comprehend tethers and towers. With the current deeps, they're basically the only mechs we have to do. It's absolutely infuriating.
The amount of drooling retards on this game right now is insane.

>11 failed financially
holy shit, you impossible retard

>negative KDR and shit damage as war
Get good

Nay, DRG, SMN, SCH, WHM, WAR and NIN have not been shown.
there is talk that the gear shown alongside PLD and MCH is NIN and not SAM, but this is highly unlikely.

Okay let me rephrase it:
It didn't meet investor expectations on profit.
It's the same problem everywhere it doesn't matter if it's in the green. All they look at is if it's as much profit as they hoped to get. This is also exactly what's breaking blizzards neck currently. That's why i'm making the comparison.

>9 deaths as a tank
were you literally just sprinting into enemy packs? I was shit at PVP once too and I was never that fucking inept

A bit, has a helmet that looks like a dragon skull

>ITT: people squabbling over primal difficulty instead of doing ultimates
>people squabbling over arena pvp when lord of verminion has more competitive credibility
>people preferring xi over xiv
what's wrong with you Yea Forums, it's like you try to be wrong at everything.

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>do ultimates
>this late in the expansion
Everyone competent cleared the month the fights were relevant

how can anybody fucking read posts like these fuck off

>play a game well known for basically just being an ERP chatroom
>surprised when everyone who plays it is a huge faggot

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>subversion of WoW

why would I care about this game?

Because it's better than WoW, sweetie.

it's not 2005 anymore

today i will remind them

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It being purely an erp chatroom is mostly a meme, it's all concentrated one one or two containment servers, just like how it's contained on /vg/ and any associated shitcords.

fuck off and respond to 1 at a time you fucking sperg

>le ffxiv is an erp chatroom meme
its not gonna become true no matter how many cherrypicked balmung chatlogs you post mate

Yeah but RTS is garbage, it's a dead genre for a reason.

>Mfw they will copypaste SMN AF2 again for AF4

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There's probably 2 phases near the end you don't even know about, people would fuck up nonstop

its really not better and wow has the most subscribers.

>no voice acting
>MSQ is a drag and worse quests than any other mmo, go here investigate, walk back. LOL what the fuck?
>dead world
>GDC makes people sleep because the combat is shit

oh nononono even at its worst that WoW is still beatin FFXIV

being 'dead' because people are scared of 1v1 competition and too much of shitters to play it is a good thing user.

Trolling used to be a art.

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wow is at 2m currently and 50% are chinese.
That leaves about 500k for the us as you split again US / Eu. It's not even good in subs anymore.

*an art

is it possible to somehow view mogstation items to ensure they look good with your character or hair style before buying?

get someone to link it to you in game

Used to be like half a decade ago, not anymore.

fuck off trannies

Garland tools is the only external way to view the models, but it's without proper lighting and won't be on your character.
garlandtools.org/db/

If you know someone with the gear, you can ask them to wear it or link it in chat and you can try it on in-game. Can't do anything about hairstyles but you could search google for "hairstyle name" "race" to find photos of your race with that hair.

It's gone grandpa, now we pretend to be retards to get (you)

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You forgot moggle mog

>image: movie cover
Wait, this is a movie?

Watch out you guys, we got a jealous WoWcuck over here.

I am not sure about the pretending anymore.

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>do PvP
>team just runs around like retards
>lose to the Maelstrom

Every time.

Is there going to be a new event/stream with expansion information? I remember just before Stormblood launched they showed off a bunch of new dungeons and abilities etc

>lose to the Maelstrom
With the help of the Immortal Cucks.

on May 24th there's gonna be a 3-4 hour live stream going over all the battle system changes, showing off the new AF gear, some new areas and enemies, Job changes, etc.
Benchmark should release after that as well which demos some new areas and gear and includes a character creator for Viera and Hrothgar.

>source
>muh ass
nice

>a art

wow dude careful.

It's been in the news on all kind of sites. Where do you live? Bumfuck?

>pretend
nice try

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Link.

Sounds good. I really enjoyed the stream they did just before SB launch even if I quit after a couple of weeks.

>entire month with no news because of benchmark being delayed
>we still don't know basically anything about dancer or gunbreaker

>battle system changes
First time I heard this I was expecting so much more and not just removing 4 abilities and adding 2. Can they stop using this phrase fucking hell

The only reason our static died to Shinryu was bursting him to near death in phase 3 and causing the adds to all explode at once. We got him to 1-2% twice before focusing adds. Retardedly easy fight.

>benchmark being delayed
Anyone expecting the benchmark before the live letter at the end of the month was a retard

Bros, how do we get Asmongold to play FFXIV?

It's two weeks to the information blowout m8. Also why do people keep saying the benchmark is "delayed"? It was always going to be out in May and no one ever said when in May it was going to be.

"battle system changes" includes anything involving PvE gameplay, so it's accurate even if the changes to your job are small. They're removing the TP bar in this expac too so that should be interesting to learn about.

>being that incompetent
>google wow 2m subs
>first link
eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17624462586

second
eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-total-active-subscribers-3-million-ish/27421

wow that was hard.

tldr: multiple different people came to same result. One dude used blizzards api to collect data from them other used google trends with machine learning. Both came to roughly 2m subs.

Fuck off

>guy in FC was hyped as fuck for Gunbreaker
>everyone talking about jobs and shit before they were revealed
>guy is adamant that it has to be a DPS almost solely because Renzokuken
>Gunbreaker is revealed to be a tank
>guy has a shit fit in FC chat and threatens to unsub
>no one really cares so he gets pissy
>eventually calms down and admits he likes how the viera look
>he's bummed they didn't reveal males
>is adamant they will be revealed at Tokyo fanfest and is looking forward to it
>hasn't been online since the fanfest
I kind of feel bad for him at this point

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He tried and hated it but fuck off.

Benchmark dropped weeks before the combat liveletter for stormblood last time.

Benchmark dropped after the liveletter because they showed off the video that the benchmark used during the liveletter

Gunbreaker being a tank means you can pair it off with all the sci-fi gear tanks have gotten over several expansions that will actually fit it better, conceptually speaking, than it fits the current 3, medieval fantasy inspired tanks.

>sounds like a huge faggot
>has attention whore mental health issues because he didn't get what he wanted
>happens again with his homo race
>>hasn't been online since the fanfest
that got a top kek out of me

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This is incorrect, people were going crazy over new skill animations in the benchmark because we hadn't yet been shown what most of them did, which was (mostly) shown in the liveletter weeks afterwards. Don't spread misinformation.

>all the sci-fi gear tanks have gotten over several expansions that will actually fit it better
Like what? The Burn gear is the only existing fending set that would really suit GNB imo.

More important is if they can make gunbreaker + dark knight work as well as paladin+warrior to give dark knight a role in the meta.

>Not wanting to be an allagan gunbreaker.
>Not wanting to be an alexandrian gunbreaker.

If you say so chief but i'm positive that it was released after a liveletter also to add on to my previous point, please bear in mind that ShB releases a few weeks later than SB did so the time schedule for things aren't meant to mirror SB's pre release hype schedule

>Also why do people keep saying the benchmark is "delayed"? I
Because Yoshiman himself said "it was late".

>tfw have full Alex tanking gear with 8 pages to spare for an Alexandrian gunblade
I hope they have it available early instead of waiting for Alex ultimate or something like that

You know it's gonna look weird as fuck and have a dumb glowing orb orbiting around it?

so are they gassing everyone while we are partying on another planet?

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>allagan gunbreaker
I wish. I'm still upset there was no High Allagan Rapier.

I'd be surprised if alex has a gunblade desu considering RDM and SAM didn't have coil weapons aside from the ultimate variants

so? that's one of the reasons I like the Alex weapons, they are far from the best, but they are nice enough to use on occasion.
they added normal variants to T13 after UCoB was added

There is hope. RDM and SAM weapons don't have that, also their Shiva weapon designs look vastly different from the originals.

>high allagan
I remember back in HW someone crafting me High Allagan Fending Coat for free because I said I mained PLD.
Unironically great community.

Oh they did? I wasn't aware of that, fuck I should have kept my alex books then since I plan to try out and maybe main gunbreaker

there will at least be a lost allagan gunblade if previous patterns hold

Get 3 friends and burn a favor for them all there.

Speaking of patterns, what do you guys think they'll do for EX Primal gear on release? People didn't like Lactose not having weapons.

Titania is almost certainly level 73, and it was Ravana (53) and Susanoo (63) that you wanted weapons from.

Are you even aware of what an FC is?

My wish would be for both primals to drop 450 weapons with different secondary stats.
And also they'd have 450 accessories, but both can drop them, like expert dungeons do.

YUU EXPECT ME TO DESIGN TWO WEAPONS GAIJIN?
TROO BAD

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>Samurai and Red Mage have Heavensward PvP weapons but not ARR
Does this mean Dancer and Gunbreaker are only going to get whatever Shadowbringers has and the weeb trash from Stormblood?

>PvP weapons
literally who cares? they're weak as shit and aren't even interesting enough to use for glamour, what's the point?

They look cool. Duh.

no they don't

Glad I'm not feeling alone this way. Their PR campaign for this expansion is seriously lacking.

The Samurai one that looks like a Sabre is cool.

Just one of the many suicides not-recorded yet from the basedman-P BTFO'ing hypestorm faggotry he told everyone to contain or they will surely be let down in a way they would not agree with eventually

Just like the last expansion.

>want the PLD hammer from Feast
>need to get silver and then bronze twice
Dumb game. Give me more hammers/axes to use.

Happens when they don't give themselves enough time to develop the expansion.

Well not gonna argue it was great but by now for SB we had an extra live letter (at the end of April) and a released benchmark as well as some cryptic pictures of skills posted by Yoshida on the official forums.

If XIV is shit, what else is better?

Last time the last fanfest was a month earlier. They're obviously behind the schedule. But media tour starts next week. Just chill and wait, it's not like anything's gonna change at this point.

Nothing, the genre is fucking dead.

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I wouldn't expect much from the live letter. They'll probably spend half the time talking about how new game+ works. Actual news will come after the media embargo ends so June 1.

I still kinda want a SAM weapon that looks like a european straight sword.

When will we get more info on Gunbreaker? Whole reason I picked up the game and started leveling a PLD

I want a gun that looks like a Winchester.

>negative KDR

Akshually, It's not negative, just < 1.
Still a retard, though.

>that feel when no static, FC or friends

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