FACT: Every genre that exists today was either created on or codified by the NES

FACT: Every genre that exists today was either created on or codified by the NES.

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MOBA

Battle Royale

I legitimately think that bomberman multiplayer counts as a BR
However I don't think the NES version had MP

MMORPG

Virtual Novel?

FPS
3D Platformer
Point and Click Adventure

Open world crafting game

Walking simulator.
Text adventures.
Graphic adventures.
First person shooters.
Strategy.

>Point and Click Adventure
Wasn't Maniac Mansion a point and click?

Fact: you're a retard and even JRPGs were invented as watered down CRPGs.

Urban Champion

Yes.
The main campaign isn't 100% roguelike because you can store items to use later but the side content and chalenges (which amounts to much more than the main story) are true roguelike and brutal dungeons where you start with nothing and has permadeath.

Genre, not subgenre

Oh like RTS games?

Just because you did it first doesn't mean you did it right or even inspired others to do it.

roguelike is a subgenre, using the term very loosely, of top down dungeon crawlers. specifically, when people talk about "roguelikes", they talk about dungeon crawlers with an extremely niche set of mechanics that rogue had, rather than any genre defining features. On that note, NES had tons of dungeon crawlers, the late 80s to early 90s was the peak of the genre.

Good thing nintendo accomplished both.
Imagine creating a genre and the game turning up so good the genre is named after the game

Western RPG

It was on the C64 first.

Roguelike:
DnD-ish RPG
Turn-based
Randomized
Top-down tile-based, preferably ascii graphics
Insanely difficult
Permadeath(corpse retrieval is allowed, like in Nethack, but not keeping your items when you start over).
To be a roguelike it has to meet every single one of these requirements, otherwise it is a roguelite.

Once again, these are autistically specific criteria to separate dungeon crawlers like Hack from dungeon crawlers like Dragon Warrior.

>Once again, these are autistically specific criteria
Only autists play roguelikes, so they get to decide the requirements.

You mean arcade or PC.

That's kind of missing the point because roguelikes inspired the "broader" RPG genre, and roguelikes originated on mainframe computers.

the criteria essentially boil down to "the games made by japanese developer chunsoft when they wanted to make a game like rogue do not count as roguelike, because it took too long to beat, wasn't hard enough to satisfy my arbitrary criteria, and its procedural generation wasnt random enough"

Pretty much. Cope.

There's nothing wrong with roguelites, user. I've put 300 hours into Don't Starve. But Don't Starve is a roguelite-survival crafting game and Cataclysm:DDA is a roguelike-survival crafting game. There is a difference.

>roguelikes inspired the "broader" RPG genre
stop sniffing your own farts, even fucking MUDs are half a decade older than your shitty ""subgenre"". games like dungeon and dnd do not qualify under the categories listed in anyway, you don't get to grandfather them in you a group of games literally named after their 1980 progenitor rogue

MMO isn't a genre.

Golgo, Goonies II, something else I forget

They're just mad chunsoft appeals to casuals by making the main story more flexible and leaving full rogue autism as postgame stuff.

At the end lf the day it's just elitism.
You can find enjoyment knowing rogue elitists will eternally seeth over literally everything being called called roguelike now.

I remember, Dr. Chaos. Although, I think Golgo was the only one I listed that you shot people in while in that first person mode

>it's first person and you shoot so....
>twilight has an action scene so it's an action movie
>john mcclain has a love interest so it's a romance movie
Neh.

>You can find enjoyment knowing rogue elitists will eternally seeth over literally everything being called called roguelike now.
Roguelites are being called roguelikes by game journalists who think Sekrio should have an easy mode.

FACT: 90% of NES games were garbage.

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journalists who think Seikiro should have an easy mode are also informing me that e3 happens in june. Now that you're implying they are wrong about everything, so should I show up to the show floor in may just to be sure?

Survival Sandbox games

Actual Fact: 90% of Atari 2600 copies of E.T. currently sit in a garbage pit made specifically for them.

And the 200 or so that weren't were either great or good.

You call that an argument? Rofl.

I call it a counter-argument, to be precise. Rofl.

You mean "metroidvania", the genre name commonly ridiculed and called out for being dumb?

lol

Well yeah, they're retarded, but the point is laughing at roguefags getting assblasted.

Yeah. It's dumb, but the Metroid formula and gameplay is so good you can't help but calling it that.

Nah, he's talking about the 1981 arcade Donkey Kong being so good that roguefags will say Epyx made the first real 2D platformer, Jumpman, in 1983.

Rescue The Embassy Mission had that as the final section of the game when you are in the embassy killing the terrorists.

First person shooting is the entirety of the game. Think before you post.

>stealth
>sniping
>rappelling
>first person shooting
God, that game was great.

90% of all games are garbage

More than 90%, really.

That game was literally the precursor to Rainbow Six because we never had another tactical game like that till Rainbow Six came out.

I agree though, Rescue The Embassy Mission was a fantastic game. Game was intense as hell on the harder difficulties since you have less time and terrorists act more aggressive.

Also for an NES game, it was surprising the game had blood in it as well which was pretty cool.

OP said subgrenes don't count, so MOBAs are action games, Battle Royales are shooters, 3D platformers are platformers, and Walking Simulators are adventure games. All of which the NES had.