What's the final verdict on him as a villain?

What's the final verdict on him as a villain?

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Wasted potential but par for the course for shitty anime writing. It turns out all of the arguments he brings up against the Phantom Thieves forcefully brainwashing arbitrary enemies without any understanding of how their supernatural powers work besides the advice of a talking cat are moot because he's evil and crazy all along.

his motivation was a massive disappointment for several reasons. Lets knock out the most obvious issues first. One, it's stupid and unbelievable. Two, you can't take him seriously anymore because he basically comes off as a whiny crybaby instead of the hyper competent rival the game had led you to believe he was.

#3 is the most disappointing thing about it to me, though. It was a massive let down that it felt so damn derivative of Adachi. Adachi already had the "I'm a loner, I don't need friends, how can you beat me with the power of friendship" thing. It worked in P4 because it was an ongoing theme there. It felt tacked on in P5. It made me very aware I was playing some dumb tropey JRPG.

based best boy

I kinda got like a Pokemon Black and White vibe from his arguments against the PTs. Like, the story was too cowardly to outright say what the actual moral issues with the PTs were, so he'd only ever have vague broad criticisms like "is it right to take justice in your own hands" because the game wanted you to root for the PTs

Which I don't necessarily hate either, because the game should make you want to root for the protagonists. But the tradeoff is that I was never that convinced by Akechi's intelligence.

good idea or alternate viewpoint, lousy execution

Shittier Adachi with daddy issues that was explicitly designed to be fujobait.

Really shit execution. It feels like the writers forgot the game ended in December and had to squish his character to fit.

Only problem here is that the Phantom Thieves were always objectively right anyway.

Why are the always right? Now that I think about it, P5 really is just a power fantasy. Besides the one part where they discover they've been rused, nothing goes wrong for them.

He was handled horribly, the twist was garbage, he doesn't really challenge the PT ideals cause they just are objectively right

Not him but the PTs are criticized on here by the same type of people who criticize that one famous speech Cap gives. It's people who feel as though herd rule should be the default morality for whatever reason and can't fathom an individualist sense of justice.

The "river of truth" speech is really stupid because it tells you that if you're absolutely convinced you're right, then no matter how many people tell you to knock it off, you shouldn't. With that logic you could justify anything, even shit like genocide and terrorism, because "no, YOU move lol". Morals are determined by society at large, so if the entire world is telling you that you are wrong about something, then you ARE wrong because you're the one not following societal standards.

Just a shit rehash of Adachi like literally all of the P5 cast.

What a disappointment of a game.

Because everyone who is against them is cartoonishly evil.

Interesting until muh daddy issues

Needs a better motive than "daddy pls"

You're the exact kind of person I was talking about. For you, morality is determined by the herd. When stories portray an individualist take on morality to you it comes off as retarded or incomprehensible.

He better get his redemption arc in Golden

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PERSONAAAAAGH

what was his motivation again? I actually cannot remember.

>Only problem here is that the Phantom Thieves were always objectively right anyway.
I wouldn't say they were objectively right in sending peoples souls to the shadow realm or whatever the fuck happened in Mementos at the end of the game