Cops in VR

Terrorists took hostages and made demands like "free our brothers from the prison" or "remove your troops from our land" with no regards to their own life or the hostages life all the time
Check out shit like terrorist acts in Russia or Israel

>They legitimately should have the active shooter be some random, experienced FPS player, who has no concern if they live or die and has no obligation to adhere to their scenario outline.

most school shooters and terrorists are actually total klutzes at the actual act, dropping magazines and jamming weapons, awkwardly fumbling to clear them. parkland and christchurch shooters are perfect examples of this. the only reason they killed anyone at all is because your average person is a dumb little farm animal ready to hide under a table or huddle in a corner hoping somehow the shooter will just pretend they aren't there

Well yeah, if your subhuman like Russians or from Israel. But americans rarely kill hostages, because most people who take hostages dont want to die. Kill your hostage and you lose your bargaining tools with the cops.
Besides, this is american cop training and they deal with different shit, like active shooters every week.

There is no training for that. It's a gamble, unless you want to approach every traffic stop with your weapon drawn.

Most of the accidents happen because cops are already nervous about the prospect of being shot by a cranky driver.

Why are US police so much more sociopathic and power-driven than other countries police?

The christchurch guy was extremely accurate, did you actually watch the video? Yeah mags fell out of his vest, he was otherwise super clean.

Yeah why can’t they just leave? Like what else are you supposed to do? Run? Why doesn’t hiding work?

>There is no training for that. It's a gamble, unless you want to approach every traffic stop with your weapon drawn.
Bullshit, there's plenty of situational training as well as training how to read body language and intent. It also gives officers and trainers an opportunity to refine existing methods or to spot issues with existing techniques.

Surely his ability to shoot down hallways and into corners of a largely empty room are unrivaled.

Did you even watch the video? Like, all the dude did was shoot into a corner with 30+ people huddled into it, then ran into the street with a shotgun. It's not hard to hit something by just randomly shooting into a corner. Saying "Extremely accurate" is kind of an insult to actual sharp shooters.

In the first ten seconds of the shooting he snap-shots a guy who is fleeing at an exit. Towards the end he hits another guy who is running away from like 50 meters.

50 meters isn't an impressive shot user.
In the gun world 50 meters is literally like a foot away. It's not hard to be accurate when something when it's that close.

All you need is a method actor and a car for that training.

A shooting situation in a public building with tons of hostages is a bit harder to simulate. Especially if you want to do it lots of times.

t. someone who has never shot a gun at a moving target before

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What the fuck is this virginal argument? Holy shit you are like a redditor. The guy was ex-military, I watched the video, he was an excellent shot. Go be nasal somewhere else. No more attention.

But user they do have a traffic stop gone wrong scenario.
And a street stop gone wrong scenario, a terrorist scenario, a bomb scenario, a dirty bomb scenario, etc.

Source:
Family member graduated the academy recently and went through some of these sims.

brenton was ex-mil ?

How about cops VS military in VR, which one would prevail. Dunno about the US military but over here we have specialized units for urban combat and others that you chuck in the woods and hope they don't die of starvation.

>50 meters is an impressive shot
>has shot a gun before
>accuses someone else of never shooting a gun before
Okay bud, you are aware an average range for an assault rifle is like 500 meters right? If he shot from 500 meters away with cross winds at 15 mph or more, then i'd be impressed. But he didn't. He literally shot someone down the street who was the equivalent of like 10 feet away.
If you can't hit a target at 50 meters away with any gun, then your name must be Randy Stair.

I can't want until the americans log on and start bullying you for pretending to know guns

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Can partially attest to this, hitting a moving target from 50 metres is a basic requirement from military personnel, so it isn't anything THAT impressive.

No wonder cops make so many mistakes. VR is such a meme gimmick fad that is not only: over but costing the lives of other people.

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Shooting at moving targets is certainly something you train as a soldier, but a standing shot on a running target at 50 meters is still hard as balls. It's so far away that being slightly offtarget will cause a miss, but its close enough to force you move your weapon with the run.

That's genuinly hard. For comparison, most fatal shootings occur at about 7 yards of distance in the real world (of course, that's in city conditions where the gunfight is usually engaged at a very close distance)

Cop training is a meme. They literally just give them guns and a radio and say go nuts. None of that psych eval/physical training actually matters or even happens in reality.

shut up libtard

this. if you look at statistics cops are actually bumbling retards in high-stress situations and it turns out something like 90% of officers forget all procedure in high-stress situations no matter how much training they had. same statistic applies to paramedics and firefighters etc. turns out humans aren't good at recalling boring training when people are having their heads cracked open all around you

This. I actually cringed when I saw the hostage taker or whatever the word in english is just giving up without offering any resistance. What is the point to train a perfect scenario where everything goes well? The guy should have let the hostage go and then jump the gun on the cops when they least expected at the very least.

I’d rather them not train cops to be paranoid retards. We already have too much of that.

Training like that is more about the moving and clearing as a team - the hostage situation at the end wasn't the focus of that particular exercise.

Speaking for EMS and critical care medicine, that's exactly why we train and need to train more - high stress situations cause a sort of mental tunnel vision, unless you've got lots of experience or training to fall back on.

>Leave military
>Start working in private security (not US based)
>Start collecting certificates for fun, company pays most of them
>Get to know instructors, become pretty much everyday customer
>Get some offers for one-time stints first as a casualty/hostage actor and later as active shooter/terrorist/hostage taker
>I get to harass civilian actors and policemen doing the class, shooting them with blanks/simunition, insulting them in the worst possible manner, crashing shit and generally acting like the worst asshole
>Do this for two years now
>Know how to get into perfect terrorist mindset and enjoy it tremendously
>Furthermore apply CQB methods into the training, frequently rekting actual cops
>Get money for it
>still no vidya bring me joy anymore
>still no gf
Such is a life.

This is true until it isn't. Training for the lowest denominator is not really a good idea, you should train against the best and for the worst possible scenario. That is why one of the things how to know good instructor is that he frequently makes it harder, like deliberately making your gun malfunction, creating scenarios when everything is fubar etc.

Tarrant didn't really shown any marksmanship. He was accurate on few occasions, sure, but most of those engagements were under 50 meters. I think he even comments it in the video, something along the lines "there were so many of them I didn't even have time to aim". What did he however shown was how calm, efficient and organized he was during the whole thing. People tend to get all jumpy from the adrenaline even during trainings, he did all cold as ice. That is respectable from my point of view.

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That sounds fun as fuck user
How does simunition compare to other nonlethal/recreation rounds?

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The great thing about it is that you can use your own gun, so people train with what they use irl. That alone is great, because you don't have to re-learn reloading, weapon handling etc. Rounds are accurate to around 15 meters, which is pretty much the most common engagement distance in CQB. They make nice bruises but nothing too wild. It's good also because it is not "nothing" like VR or laser training guns or even just blanks, shit stings, there is a recoil and bang and all is as real as you can get today. When you shoot someone, he feels it and generally people doesn't really want to be hit with them again, which is a great thing on it's own too.

Cons are pretty much the price (about three times a price of a regular 9mm round) and that sometimes it leads to more frequent malfunctions - not really that bad, but worthy of mention.

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That sounds really cool user
You are really cool

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I'm glad you liked it fren, you sound like a wholesome lad. Have a company owner's mommy wife.

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Looks like a VP9SK

Thanks for sharing these informative posts, user.

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Look at the people they have to put up with.

That turns them into sociopaths?

Did you know 40% of US police beat their wives? Real statistic.