>be non english
>can write and understand written english almost flawlessly
>have a decent level in speaking but have trouble whenever I get nervous, turning into an english caveman
>can usually understand english but have problems with some accents, or need subtitles when there is a little noise
>too insecure to use voice chat while playing videogames
my voice isn't weird or retarded I just get nervous
how did you overcome this my non-english friends
Be non english
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me too, fren. I just accepted my non-englishness and after just using it for quite some time it's pretty good now.
make vocaroo
voice chat is for fags anyway user.
You can get almost same level of teamwork with chat unless you are doing some serious shit like esport.
ESL's are superhuman. i cannot imagine learning english if i were an adult via anything other than immersion, and that must be humiliating to start out
I overcame this by voicechatting anyways.
It's like riding a bike. You are like a little child afraid of riding a bike. Think of it that way.
what do you want me to say
damn you're brave
will try to do the same anons
yeah I usually stick to that but I made some english friends
I started learning as a kid by myself
polished my skills playing diablo2 online
I have a thick Finnish accent and people bully me for it
user stop being a pussy
i speak English more than my own language
By making this thread on /adv/ instead retard.
Not that user but say some movie quotes hard mode:quotes from the movie from your country translated into english
English is not as hard as people make it out to be. It's basically all just shortcuts to make talking easier. This does make it look like a clusterfuck if you come from a more rigid primary language, but a language like Mandarin or Japanese is much more difficult to learn comprehensively than English, where you can communicate by just getting your point accross.
say WHITE PIGGU GO HOME
The entire intro to TDKR
English is the most easy language in earth, especially the american one
I know that feel
>read english since 10 year old
>understand complex written english better than most natives
>can pass for native when trying to write properly, even - especially - when writing complex technical shit
>strong polack accent with those stupid 'R's
>keep accenting wrong syllable in words
>can never hear correct lyrics in songs
I spent more time reading English than average burger on Yea Forums, but didn't have the chance to practice speaking much.
>the most easy
oops
Wait, there is american Earth?
Go for it user, I legit like it when I hear accents in voice chats. It reminds me of long ago when chats were filled with people from all over the world instead of separated regionally. I won't bully I promise
>english only speaker
>hang out with ESLs
>don't treat them like shit because I can't speak anything other than English
Believe me, as long as you aren't friends with Yea Forums class retards, they'll be cool with it.
>in earth
You posted a sadcat.
You are human garbage.
Didn't even read your post, because I know it's shit.
Kill yourself.
That's exactly his point though. Even if it's written like that, it's easy to understand what he means.
English is baby-tier in terms of understanding what people are saying.
vocaroo or gtfo
Imagine being this much yard ape spear-chucking negro groid.
>how did you overcome this my non-english friends
>implying English first (or only) people don't also go full caveman when they get nervous
>be Dutch
>playing MK11
>hear some american black guy talking to me on his mic
>call him a nigger
>he calls me a taco eating mexican
Why do americans hate mexicans?
>negro groid
just dew it im dutch and you literally cant except for some key words
>he calls me a taco eating mexican
Is that an insult???
I don't know if it's my mic or vocaroo but it sounds like earrape
I'm trying with my phone now
thanks for the bump user
still haven't read the whole thread sorry anons wait a sec
I even dream in english lmao but t
they're like muslims to the germans except less violent and more job-taking
Mexicans hate Mexicans too.
Yes, but it is no different from "proper" British English. We just have some minor spelling differences like "color" rather than "colour" and a couple different word connotations. Nothing major.
Hou je kanker bek
>tfw i have this problem but with spanish instead
feels bad man
I guess. He started chimping out after I beat him, so I think it was meant as an insult.
kom dan kankerjong ik neuk je helemaal kapot hoor
try being indian, paco
I'm spanish
>american english
>she don't
Is goed kom kanker vechten dan
Desde España o Sudamérica?
kanker hou kanker je kanker bek kanker ik zit nu op de fiets ben er zo
HAHAHAHAHAH
똑같노ㅋㅋ
rate no bully
vocaroo.com
I fucked the pronunciation but I'm nervous
españa
>speaking worst gook
I was the same, and I was unable to speak English fluently at all, until I started voice chatting frequently with a Qt3.14, and I got a hell lot better and nowadays I'm extremely fluent, and English natives tell me I have a very cool accent lol. It's just practice, user.
You have no problems, my dude. You have a nice deep voice and if you are on EU servers no one will care about your accent anyway since 90% of people have an accent anyway.
HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
sounds just like one of my gayman friends, yer good enuff my man
Britfag here - I wouldn't worry about it. There are many accents we all don't understand over here too from the UK.
Just be yourself user
FASTER
could be worse and you mic quality is fine
Mexicans are the mexicans of the internet. Literally no one wants to be a mexican.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
Why is it that everyone defaults to English on the internet? That makes gringos become a shitload lazier.
Okay, now read that again without a cock in your mouth
jk you're not bad
>need subtitles when there is a little noise
Don't feel bad. I need them when the actors have British accents (American).
OH NONONONO
Sounds like a bangbros intro.
thanks anons I'll do better when I stop being that nervous while speaking english
I usually understand americans way better than british, they're fucking hard to understand
more
the fuck you sound better than a ton of people I play with
also your voice is hot no homo
>I need them when the actors have British accents
Same
>>too insecure to use voice chat while playing videogames
What a faggot.
If you're Eastern European, feel free to talk because English speakers think that accents cool
Skandinavians have a gay accent don't talk.
For Central Europe don't talk if you're French or German.
If you're Spanish never talk, even to your fellow taco language speakers
South Americans don't talk unless you have a good grasp on English
Africans have a pretty dope accent in my opinion feel free to talk if you don't mind everyone saying "nigger"
Chinks are incapable of understanding the English language
Other Asians are alright
The fuck? Are you trying to bait me to praise you by pretending to be embarrassed? Because there's nothing wrong with your voice, an accent is not a bad thing and you're very easy to understand.
Zeg wollah broer
you should do ASMR
Ah. Onions de Los Estado Unidos y practicando la lenguaje para la gente de la Sudamérica. Esos pueblos no usan las conjugación vosotros, y buscando alguien desde esos lugares para practicar.
>If you're Eastern European, feel free to talk because English speakers think that accents cool
mentionings
poland pstrong
user, lo que acabas de decir suena bastante gay.
i agree tbqh
>That lisp
>onions
Mexican here, I think burgerlander brothers have the need to feel superior and take out all their frustration on Mexicans, because somehow we ruin their country, rape their women, spoil their Fortnite (KEK) games oh and most importantly steal their jobs even tho they are parasite niggers or basement whales. By the way I'm not hating on anyone
I should try making porn films then lmao
holy shit thanks user I feared noone would understand me if I tried online
*kisses you in the balls*
>If you're Spanish never talk, even to your fellow taco language speakers
why?
in fact I deleted plenty of audios before that one because I thought it sounded fucking awful
I tried to talk slow so I wouldn't trip talking like a retard
what's ASMR?
yeah, we use different verbal tenses, expressions, words etc
I can help you if you want but I don't talk like south americans
>lisp
what's a lisp?
English is everywhere. It's always in your face in ads, or in catchy phrases, or being taught in school, or being spoken by people you play video games with. You have to be an idiot or living under a rock to not naturally pick up on it.
>what's a lisp?
A dynamic programming language with many parentheses
English is piss easy. The worst part is the abhorrent spelling, or rather how spelling and pronunciation don't even correlate much. In fact, native English speakers have way more trouble with this, see they're/there/their, or the most retarded offender, should/would/could "of". How people make this ridiculously stupid mistake is beyond me.
¿No que los mexicanos odian a sus compatriotas mexicanos.. además de que ellos mismos odian ser mexicanos?
Cute voice, want some fuck?
>what's a lisp?
You may not notice, but you Spaniards all have a lisp where you mispronounce certain sounds. All the Spanish speaking world makes fun of you for it and as a non-Spanish speaker I can still identify you Spaniards because of it
this thread is cringy as fuck
>ik zit nu op de fiets ben er zo
Dead
There exists people in every language that are fucking chimps and can't spell for shit, for seemingly no reason at all.
A lisp is when people pronounce s like th
>black
>American
Fuck off. I dont call sand niggers living in toothpaste land toothpastians, so why would you call a nigger living in burger land a burger?
>Have to speak actual English whenever an ESL is working with me/in a meeting with ESLs.
I'm actually fine with this, because they made the fucking effort that I did not. It does make me realise that its really easy to become completely incomprehensible in twisted colloquialisms, wordplay and irony (actual irony you schmucks) that to anyone who actually had to learn English it's basically gibberish.
But I'm sure any language has this for its native speakers. I know whenever my Belgian and French friends speak they suddenly pick up the pace to stupid levels.
yeah I really like it too when I hear some non-english pronunciation, has some magic to it
thanks user, I treat good too people that is trying to speak my language
>tfw i've got italian accent
>but aren't we spaniards supposed to be talking the original castillian language, making south americans the wrong ones?
yeah but it makes you sound gay lol
>It's Napoli
No me abuses por favor
Buen uso de Google Translate, dejame explicarte, Si, los Mexicanos somos envidiosos por naturaleza, si vemos a alguien triunfar buscamos algun defecto de este/esta al instante para empezar a criticar, por ejemplo lo que paso con Yalitza Aparicio y su nominacion al oscar por su actuacion en la pelicula ROMA, hubo cientos de asquerosos trogloditas mexicanos tratando de desmeritarla que fue vergonzoso y eso es algo de todos los dias, pero aun asi son selectivos, los malnacidos no tiran mierda a Salma Hayek por ejemplo pero sabemos que es por dos gloriosas razones.
No se si los mexicanos odian ser mexicanos, jamas habia oido eso, al menos yo no me da igual la verdad.
Close
caserta
Go back far enough and you're supposed to be speaking Arabic, pick your time period.
you don't sound spanish, you sound like an indian trying his hardest.
literally no one cares unless you're playing CoD with 12-year olds, we're just playing videogames
>Caserta
I want to joke and go oof, but I fucking loved the place so you get a pass.
Is that all? Jesus my guy, you need to have more confidence in yourself. I thought this was gonna be a train wreck but it was far from it.
>can write and understand written english almost flawlessly
>This godawful punctuation
>Using a with an uncountable noun
Sure, user.
what accent have you got?
As a bong (Welsh), lemme tell you the secret to avoiding any problems with accents.
If anyone mentions you have an accent make a mildly self-depreciating joke. Something a bit sterotypical and have a laugh at yourself.
99.95% of everyone will laugh along with you rather than at you since you got there first and showed you can have a laugh at yourself and will never mention it again unless you become good friends in which case they'll riff the shit out of you for it and you can do the same to them.
Not even kidding.
Can confirm. My little brother who plays fortnite, says that english speakers make fun of him for his accent.
For my part I play mostly RTS, and I've never had any problems or teasing about my accent.
Yeah stuff like wordplay, proverbs, idioms and other kinds of expressions are often fucking nonsense if directly translated into another language. Some idioms are really old and people don't even know the origin of it so some things are pretty nonsensical in their own language if you think about it, such as "going cold turkey" or "and Bob's your uncle".
It becomes especially bizarre when two different, but very similar languages have proverbs or idioms that are the same in either langauge, but somet mean something different despite being very similar. I don't have an example at hand but I encountered that a few times when talking to my Dutch gf (I'm German)
>have a decent level in speaking but have trouble whenever I get nervous, turning into an english caveman
Being American must suck.
italian sounds fucking good, it's another language I want to learn after german
are you memeing me?
and you didn't hear the ones I discarded lmao
I thought that too
no please
I studied some arabic basics and it's hard as fuck
makes my pain go away a little
yeah I've been always insecure about my english pronunciation, thanks user
see holy shit is that some audios/videos that are super silent with some kind of relaxing sound?
where did I use "a" with an uncountable noun? that's why I said almost
also why would I use perfect punctuation in Yea Forums?
>tfw when I realize I spend most of my time thinking in English than in my own language
>most...than
>be German
>use English basically all day every day, both in text and speech
>rarely leave my house, live alone
>talk to someone in German
>often start saying some words in English before stopping myself, sounding like a stuttering retard
I'm fucked
It's not a perfect English, user. it's just what I use to post on Yea Forums all day.
But feel free to correct me so I don't make the same mistakes again.
>holy shit is that some audios/videos that are super silent with some kind of relaxing sound?
More or less. This guy is probably the most well-known example of it, he had a show where all he did was paint a picture for 25 minutes and it kept going for like 30 years because people liked the sound of his voice so much.
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>Live in Japan for a year
>Think and speak Japanese nearly every day
>Move back to the states
>Spend a good second or two thinking translating Japanese for English in my head before talking or responding to people
>This goes on for a month
>Google translate
El culiao aweonao.
I'm ESL myself, just teasing you.
>talk to someone in german
>can't think of the german word
>pause
>say it in english
>you mean bratwust?
>yeah, fuck, how could i forget bratwurst
wait, isn't the english word for bratwurst just bratwurst? Hotdogs are a different thing.
what a fag, just speak nobody cares. I even got a chance to speak to a cute jap girl while using VC. He accent was weird too but it was a nice chat.
>be American
>have a mic
>can't communicate vital information clearly when I get shot so it's just me spouting nonsense
>don't use mic
>have slight Southern accent so fags will just comment on it anyway
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For a good reason tho.
You sound like someone who plays Arma with milsim groups
Fuck you Puljujarvi. Karpat a shit
You don't understand, user
First of all, most Germans, espcially older people, are fucking terrible at speaking English. Chances are they don't know the word.
And secondly, if they DO understand it, they'll just think I'm a tryhard hipster faggot.
By talking more and not giving a fuck. It's not rocket science.
Don't listen to him.
Technically though, it should be either "more [blah blah] than" or "most of [blah blah] instead of."
benis :DDDD
Seems it's not that easy, dumbass
I had a bud that had a thicker accent then you but talked the same and he also was self conscious of his voice.
He was worried he didn't speak quick enough or he would speak too slow or too long of a pause between words.
At least it's not PC to harass people because of their accent in the West. Try being a white boi playing on the mainland China server. I get a little hype and make a single pronunciation mistake and the entire game turns into a session of who can use the shittiest Chinglish.
Not the easiest mechanically, but definitely easiest because it is essentially the lengua franca and exposure to it is almost guaranteed.
holy fuck OP is going to be an hero
You would never be able to tell I'm Spanish.
If you're Finnish you deserve to be bullied
Yurop or spic? If you're European, just go for it, at worst people will find it cute. If you're spic, you are fucked
holy shit bob ross is considered ASMR?
I only saw memes and small videos of him
he's fucking based
damn I thought you said you were asian and was jealous of your pronunciation
you still sound good user
I agree with you but I'm dumb
looks like that's our fate until we get comfortable with speaking other languages without caring too much if you mess up
no why would you say that
vocaroo pls
holy shit that must be a glorious shitfest
doubt
Finns are bros. They all have mild autism and most like to drink. Their language sounds like a fucking mess though, probably because it shares no roots with any other languages (except Estonian I think)
Alles ist in ordnung Fruend, Weil ich auch Deutsch lernen. Manchmal es ist einfach, sondern es schwer konnen sein.
post more sad cats i need them for my collection
9/10, would listen to your autistic videos about Mario Maker
Your level of proficiency is something I am jealous of, not of Japanese but I wish my German were at that level.
I'll make one for you then
People who shit on people with accents are just envious monolingual plebs (so mostly Amerifats). Every person who has ever tried to seriously learn a second language knows that having an accent is nothing to be embarrassed about because getting to a conversational level is already proof that you've learned a lot and that you should be proud of yourself, because it's a lot of work.
Monolingual fags know that too, but mask the fact that they feel bad about knowing only one language by making fun of ESLs to make themselves feel better. It's really just that.
>me: "fucking gringo de mierda!!!"
>the american pig: "REPORTED for RACIST!!!"
WUT happen bros?? Seriosuly??
But can you blame us Americans for being monolingual? The only language they'll teach us in school is Spanish. Why do we have to learn our invaders language? Where are our other options.
>you still sound good user
Thanks. Yea Forums once told me I sound like a gay cowboy
If you're thinking of the autistic Mario Maker dude I'm thinking of, then I'll let you know that he's German
i've yet to hear an accent more incomprehensible than what i heard in the deep south (us). drunk scots didn't come close.
it's really more that if you make fun of regional differences then you should make fun of foreign ones too. equal discrimination, equal jest.
American here. Just got back from Netherlands. I was nervous because I speak zero Dutch, but most people in Amsterdam speak English and sound like Americans. In Tilburg my friend and I were hanging out with a Mexican, and I was speaking Spanish to him and he'd reply in English. Language is magical.
Not him, but I've been getting recommended a lot of cronocyde videos.
>have a normal northern american accent
>get on a french server
>”please... please talk more. it good. accent.”
Bullshit, Scots/Irish are hands down the hardest English speakers to understand
There's tons of possibilities to learn languages in our day and age, user. Duolingo for example. If you really want to learn another language then you have literally no excuses.
70% of my English skills are self taught. The English they "teach" you at school is hot garbage.
You sound fine, and I'd even describe your voice as nice. The only way to get over insecurity it to just keep speaking.
kek
>French server not instantly banning you
I highly doubt your claims
I meant what is taught to us in school. Many people outside of Yea Forums don't care enough to learn another language on their own. And that includes Europeans.
who dis?
It wasn’t on PC.
Dutch people are crazy good in English because all their TV shows and movies are in English (except stuff for kids). So they are constantly exposed to the language. And most books an such also don't get translated, so you're simply better off if you can understand English very well.
Germany is the complete opposite, they get literally everything translated and dubbed. They are a lot worse at English as a result. My friends even refuse to watch movies in English with me because "it's too much effort" since they have to read the subtitles. It's fucking annoying.
>tfw french canadian but everyone is so fucking retarded where I live they don't speak a word of english so no one to practice with
>thick Finnish accent
I love that fucking accent
vocaroo pls
He is not blaming you for being monolingual but rather for being a cunt with ESL people.
You can also learn things on your own, not everyone learned English thanks to the school.
As I said, teaching languages in school is always ass. And I can guarantee you that on average, every non-UK European speaks more and better English than the average American speaks Spanish.
You won't be exposed to much Spanish in America unless you live near the border or a major metropolitan area.
It helps that English and Dutch are super related. I remember playing MGS5 and being able to tell what the Afrikaans PMC were saying most of the time and I don't speak a lick of Dutch or Afrikaans
Point taken.
I completly agree. I was taught spanish for 3 years and I know like 10 words of Spanish. I taught myself German through Babbel, Duolingo (which sucks), books, and media. And consider my German pretty good for one year in.
Upp inn th aess off Timo
Yeah definitely. Although German and English are also pretty similar. In fact English is easier than German. (And so is Dutch)
dunno, maybe i ran into a particularly clear-spoken scotsman. i assume he was also a high-functioning drunk.
i'll admit that my experience is biased, though. i was using the worst i'd heard in the south for the comparison, not what's typical, and i spent three years there as opposed to about three days in scotland.
I took years of Spanish in high school and I really didn't "get it" until I started working with Spanish speaking people at my job.
Is it true that German actually has a shitload of impossible to understand dialects?
Nobody wants to hear a french leaf on mic, me included, so I don't try period.
La conchesumadre culiao
>also why would I use perfect punctuation
So you can convey your ideas concisely and clearly, you illiterate barbarian.
I don't believe so, I'm the user learning German. Many of the dialect differences is just the differences in slang and merely pronunciation. Some reigons pronounce words softly, while others more harsh, and some right in the middle. I understand Austrian German, aside from their slang, while I'm learning Hoch-Deutsch, standard German.
Swiss-German on the other hand is much different.
youtube.com
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WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK
yeah, very similar to british accents in that regard. just look up some videos on youtube
You got no idea bro.
Only certain villages deep in the alps have super bad dialects. t. Austrian
I wouldn't say a shitload. But some of them are really hard to understand if you're learning German as a second language, for example Bavarian, Swabian and Saxonian are hard to understand even for natives (if they don't live in those areas, that is). Bavarian is even featured as its own "language" on wikipedia.
bar.wikipedia.org
vs the actual German article de.wikipedia.org
Stuff like that is the case in most, if not all European contries though.
I'm only here for the sad/crying cats
You could teach some Argentinian in my server some lessons in speaking.
He's an actual chore to be in voice with. Text even moreso because he's got a room temp IQ.
Godspeed user.
I'm not having much of a problem yet, but maybe in the future. I'll keep you posted.
>have a decent level in speaking but have trouble whenever I get nervous, turning into an english caveman
>can usually understand english but have problems with some accents, or need subtitles when there is a little noise
The thread has like 180 replies so someone's probably already said this but don't worry so much about OP
I'm a native english speaker and I get these issues too, speaking while nervous is hard in any tongue and some accents/background noise combinations just make comprehension hell, even for those who have English as their only language
If it's voice chat in specific you're concerned about don't worry about flubbing your words, you can always just say your mic is fucking up and at worst you can just repeat yourself. Plus most games with a voice chat system also have text.
Close enough, I am a burger, all Europeans sound the same to me
Argentino she boluó cuanta copa tene boluó
We don't have being Mexican but we do hate other mexicans
I still can't believe the Welsh word for Microwave is literally the sound it makes "Poppty'ping"
Burgers really are dumb, huh
Fulgrim?
> be me
> sound very simple-minded and vulgar but energetic when talking in native language
> turn to pleasant and professional while using english, cannot sound natural
That's what working for english-language corporations does to you.
>If you're Spanish never talk, even to your fellow taco language speakers
You can't stop me.
I really enjoy hearing not native english people speak it's just a nice thing to hear imo.
Especially when you guys use english memes.
Jap guys and chinese girls are my favorite to hear.
Just keep up the talkin friendos ill have you know that this user enjoys it.
It's the opposite for me. Whenever I speak English it's with my Yea Forums-tier friends where we're vulgar and jokingly racist all the time. When I was in America I had to watch myself to not say fuck all the time since Burgers frown upon swearing as far as I know
I'm sorry user I'm currently watching the thread and taking care of other things right now, I'm kinda busy
I was planning on making an imgur with my sad cat collection but I can't now
yeah it's specifically voice chat
I don't get many opportunities to speak english here in my country
and the ones that are from my country are usually too retarded/young to even considering talking to them in my own language
lmao the argentinians I've heard had an excelent english pronunciation
maybe the one you know is an exception
but I want user
thanks user will do
Lol, maybe in formal settings but everyone here swears like a sailor.
Nah his pronunciation is fine, he's just a fucking retard with a nasally voice that fucks with his mic on purpose.
Burgers don't frown upon foul language in most contexts, people say fuck and shit all the time in public here
>Burgers frown upon swearing as far as I know
Only in quiet places or around kids
reminder that argies are white!
I was in Disneyworld so that's also not exactly a place where you shoud swear I guess
How come you censor it in TV shows and even songs, then?
"Puritan" values. Same reason we censor titties but our TV and movies are filled with ultra-violence
we should have burned your fucking capitol when we had the chance
>How come you censor it in TV shows and even songs, then?
Based on the tv or radio rating. some channels are senpai friendly and some are not.
You can say fuck and nigger on comedy central but not on a softer network
It really depends on the people you're talking to. The older the person is, the more trouble you'll have to understand them
english: Enjoy your meal
german: Guten Appetit
bavarian: An Guadn
hessian: Gudn Abbo
saxonian: gudn Abbedied!
That's not true, it's called meicrodon
>senpai friendly
F-amily
>that accent
american girls would be all over your dick
so stay the fuck out, you swarthy Iberia nigger
t. Europoor
lmao I thought we were hated in america
I'll stick to my language just for you user
lmao
what videogame? just curious
>Same reason we censor titties
We don't do this lol, there are so many movies that have topless chicks or straight bare asses that it's unreal.
But yeah the violence is true
Practice makes perfect.
Just overcome your fear to voice chat and you will get better at it. How else are you gonna become better at it without doing it?
Wow user, did you conclude that all by yourself? Gold star, buddy
that's the only way, I agree
honestly that's the way I learned how to write and learn english
I devastated the language while trying to speak with english people online in diablo2, but I improved a lot thanks to that
>french canadian
the worst kind of leaf
the only tolerable frenchies are Cajuns and they're barely even French at this point
Americans don't actually hate everyone we just mostly don't know about foreign people
Remember that people on 4ch don't accurately represent the opinion of the majority
Show up be polite and we will love you/spoiler]
My problem is that I have an accent but it's really weird in a way. People usually can't really tell where I'm from or what my first language is based on my accent, they just know something is off. I wish I had a sexy ass accent like this instead.
>english speaker with a strong regional accent
>friends are mostly ESLs
>they all have steamy hot, purring baritone voices and exotic accents
Don't be shy about your cutesy broken english, OP!
Well where are you from, then?
urbanites have glorified Europeans as "exotic" and "romantic" for about a century
most normal Americans couldn't give a singular shit, though
Let's hear that voice
This post reeks of cocklust
The glorious lands of the Mountain Jews.
Allemanian dialects like Swiss German and the Vorarlberg dialect are quite difficult.
this is exactly what i mean
fucking fags, the lot of 'em
Discord server, was mainly for War Thunder and other shit and then we re-picked up GTAV and he bought it to play with us.
Not even Swiss people can understand all Swiss dialects.
What do you want me to say?
Why y'all getting all worked up about not having perfect English. In America we have ebonics speakers and they were born here. The BBC has their news site in pidgeon or whatever it's called. English is bastardized regularly and us native speakers dont care. You shouldn't either
Well no surprise people don't recognize it then
Oh fuck I loved Jetstream Sam's voice actor. How much did they pay you for doing MGR?
Recognizing a native German speaker's accent is quite easy in most cases.
Gimme a good core 6k anki deck.
you wanna post them here bro? you should try and get around to that imgur man it'll be sweet also as an English guy I dont think you sound bad dont worry too much be confident with your team and friendly and pull some jokes but dont overdue it and if they're assholes mute them or fight back but dont let it get to you everyone is an asshole during matches but you'll find some people that are friendly n stuff hope it goes with you
Yea Forums - Social Anxiety
iz it becauze we sound like the team fortress zwei doktor, ja?
Bavarian != German, Bertl
everyone has it
Don't call my language "Bavarian" ever again.
Genau!
Everybody hates Mexicans. Imagine if Americans were twice as obnoxious, half as intelligent, and had no power or success to at least make up for it. That's Mexicans.
thanks user that's really good to read sexy ass accent
please user I'm gonna blush
where are you from?
post voice
we europeans consider foreign things as exotic too, happens everywhere I guess
>war thunder
damn that was fun but I was fucking awful at it
what
I haven't played that game user sorry, does he sound like me?
if you drop an email I'll send it to you later, I can't search them right now user sorry
I don't mind people making fun of me, I just want to sound good and I'm insecure about it but I'm just fucking dumb
that's me
>This thread filled with foreigners stays but my Bleach thread analogy to hated but actually loved video games gets zoned after trending with 100 replies
Say "hello how are you today in your native"language
Then say "Vanilla lemon drops, don't mind if i don't" in english
Everyone instantly recognizes a German accent, though. Bavarians just sound weird.
lmao get fuck u STINKY WEEB
embrace that you have an accent and just try to talk as normally as you would in your own language, everything will smooth out much easier
>Be a spanish 7 yo boy playing Ocarina of Time back in the day
>Dont understand a single thing
>Read all the dialogue with my spanish pronuntiation
>My older brother is an English teacher so I always ask him what they are saying
>Suddendly start understanding words here and there
>Suddendly I can get a basic grasp of what is going on on some dialogues
>Wtf is this magic
>Start studying English in school later
>Be forever 2 or 3 years ahead in English class
>In high school teachers ask me when they dont know a word
thank you video games
Jo mei, video schbui machn gaudi
>tfw no kiwibros in vidya
feelsbadman
What's even your point, retard?
Lol that shit means nothing you get fucked
Yikes, Brudi
>literally "no u"
stay assmad
>american has shit taste in manga
big surprise
>Bleach
Perhaps things would work out better for you, if you weren't such a shonenshitter? 11,10, 12, 12, 2, 3
sapperlot!
>Onions de Los Estado Unidos
Hot damn, you sound like you’re trying to seduce me.
If you came to America you’d get any girl you want (assuming you didn’t look like an absolute trog)
vocaroo.com
Here you go. People are sleeping here so apologies if it sounds a little too quiet.
I only said it 'cause I mean it. I'm from Switzerland.
Just practice. Your accent will either adapt or you will just improve your pronunciation. I used to work in a customer service amd talking pretty much daily with so many kinds of people helped me a lot to become more fluent, right now I can happily say I can talk perfectly in english, with maybe my only flaw being that I tend to talk a bit fast.
>the Swiss
The trick is to get English speaking friends to play vidya with online. With time you learn how to pronounce words the proper way with their insight.
I still have a thick accent, but people can understand me well enough thanks to my buddies online
It's better that way.
>the swiß
git gud then.
>interesting thread with international anons discussing languages stays up while your shitty Yea Forums bait thread dies
Yes, and...?
English is super easy except for pronounciation when learning new (written) words as nothing follows a pattern.
Plus most people who learned it learned it when they were young.
Nope I'm all good this happened 3 months ago and just remember anime is alive today because of The Big 3+DB
Ich wette du trinkst auch bleichmittel, schwuchtel ^^
Most German post I've ever seen.
XD
same, I'm just honest with whoever I'm talking to though
:D ^^
I wish Germans would stop that shit, it's so fucking cringy
t. German
Hey, Antonio Banderas, I love your work.
Seriously though, you're good. It doesn't sound weird.
fuck you, they're cute^^
No it's fucking annoying as fuck, stop acting like a 12 year old for fucks sake
I ahve a german friend who never does that kinda stuff
:3
Just try and stop me ^^
:P ^^
My old german gf always ended her texts with ^^
Weird how that of all things brought back some nostalgia.
He does, but not in front of you, because you wouldn't understand. ^^
Did she also call you a Schwuchtel?
that was a fun thread
It's obviously not everyone, but it's definitely far, far more common in Germans than other people.
It's just how "chat culture" there is. Maybe it's something about German sounding too "serious" and people trying to seem more friendly, I don't really know why.
That's also possible.
OwO Was ist das??
Stop. Please
JAJAJA MARICONA
no está mal, he escuchado muchísimo peor
8======================D
Du kannst mich nicht aufhalten! :D
No. She always ended her texts like
Ich liebe dich ^^
It's the only phrase in german I know.
I miss her.
>Onions de los Estados Unidos
Post voice
I think german net culture was a lot of weebs back in the day, weebs that intermingled with the normal folk and introduced them to emoticon ^^
unironically breddy gud
>Onions de Los Estado Unidos
>Onions
gets me every time
>arab immigrant coworker at home depot
>You're accent is so good! It sounds like the american accent we would hear on tv growing up!"
What.
factually wrong
Shit you might be right. I was one of those weebs as an early teen
It also helps that it's very easily accessible on German keyboards (it's directly under the escape key)
Being a kid playing dialogue-heavy games was a godsend, it forced me to properly learn english to understand dialogues in games like Super Mario RPG and OoT. Now I wish that had been the same case with japanese, as an adult is way harder to get into a new language, let alone have the drive to actually improve it.
I also had french classes when I was in elementary and middle school but those felt more like filler classes since I never used it again.
>All the Spanish speaking world makes fun of you
Because they are a bunch of insecure favelians who, up to this day, still cry about muh gold and have no cultural legacy whatsoever beyond tacos.
I've just talked in games, be it team chat, all chat or in a /vg/ discord. I still don't talk too much (mainly because finnish and I don't do small talk in the first place) but at least I got over the stuttering.
>be burger
why would I ever learn another language?
i mean it'd be cool, but what practical reason is there to even bother?
the best i can come up with is:
Spanish: Don Quixote
Japanese: weebshit
Latin: historical & religious reasons
and those are all pretty flimsy reasons
Sounds like du liebst dick, fag.
Exactly. you also got stuff like °_° back in the day, because it's on the same key.
In essence it's just very simplified japanese emoticon if you think about it. (;≧皿≦)
keep practicing, Bruder.
I talk to myself like an autismo when I'm alone and it's always in English
It'd make my life easier.
Some people just get enjoyment out of learning new languages.
Doesn't matter if english is the most popular language, learning a second language opens you a lot of doors in the professional world. Spanish is also the second most popular language, so there's that.
This.
Stereotypes and shitposting are fun, but compare to reality are really overblown.
Happens to me all the time. I believe that my vocabulary is larger in english than it is in my native language.
I only hate two types of people, user.
People that are intolerant of other cultures.
And the Dutch.
Dont worry esl bros your English is good
Being able to speak, understand or write in other languages is always an advantage in any job or job interview.
>from latam
>been told I have a slav or jewish accent
Do i fix it or should I "make it work"?
That's really cool that you're that good, user.
Please, don't let it fade away- keep using it.
Yeah, fags have it easy. Except for the plethora of homo-related diseases and their cancerous gay sub-cultures.
not too many, East german is understandable but sounds like AIDS, Bavarian near impossible, but it basically sounds like german, if everyone is super drunk and never learned german in a school. Northern dialects are pretty ok, but sound weird.
Why the Dutch?
>vocaroo.com
reminds me of this
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Here you go, sad cat spanish-bro.
I don't mind people who don't speak English but I hate asking them to repeat stuff. If you don't mind repeating stuff, it's fine. I think it would be a good, safe way to practice.
>only person playing
>not pointing the tv towards him
niggers, everyone
i feel like my vocabulary in both languages has gotten worse. i always talk a few hours of german and english a day and the constant switch between grammar and vocabulary has made me really confused about what's correct for which language. also if i start saying an english word i can't switch back to german without some effort.
Just make it work, I'm mexican and a couple of people have told me I have a russian accent, even if I always do my best to have a clear american accent. Sometimes it's something you can't really change, so just roll with it.
It's a joke from Austin Powers, user.
youtube.com
The two statements contradict each other.
I like your accent.
what songs you guys listening to? I'm listening to helpleness blues
English is easy to learn because it's practically everywhere all the time. You're going to learn some even without trying, and with the tiniest amount of effort you can learn enough to be more or less fluent.
Oh thanks, sorry you had to explain it.
I sniff my rose verygood taste
>Nürnberg
>ostfränkisch
i'm born in Nuremberg and you can actually hear which City/town/suburb someone is from. It's crazy.
How much onions does it sound like I've drank?
vocaroo.com
can you type the first part for me?
No worries, user. It was hard to tell it was a joke, and not that many people remember the Austin powers movies.
noeffort/10. couldn't even keep your role for 10 seconds.
You sound scottish, from that short phrase. But it's like you said earlier, even that is a bit off.
It's still very clear what you're saying in english, though. You're fine.
you sound like a spic lol
Slavshit here
How do I get rid of accent
I do that thing where I'm speaking in my native language and suddenly add an english word in the middle and it takes me a few seconds to realize something was wrong.
>Telling someone to die because they posted a image of a cat.
What this world has come to
"Hoi, wie gaht's dir hüt?"
I tend to talk very fast when I'm speaking Swiss German.
I know that my English is understandable, I just sometimes envy these more "exotic" sounding accents, I guess. This is actually the first time I've been told I sound Scottish.
Move to somewhere that's only english speaking.
Immerse yourself, and you'll find you'll be slowly adjusting to match the local accent.
You don't, you embrace it and make fun about it.
A lot of us germans got Schueler.cc or studi.vz back when facebook was considered a no-no because privacy. I accidentaly found a Fairy Tail RP group and it was big fun.
I suppose it started there or on ICQ
very nice thank you for sharing fren
thank for honesty
Canadians are the worst scum here and irl though.
You have to put more energy into your baneposting, friend.
=^.^=
might add greek, russian, and german for philosophy and swedish for muppets
It started way before SchülerVZ was a thing, though. I'm pretty sure what the other user said is right, it started because of weebs.
t. had an account on Animexx
We're all in this together, friends. Native or accented speaker, just you all keep on trying!
Yeah i was thinking it's swiss german, not italian or french.
the thing that amazes me the most about you guys, is that you actually type in that language.
>be me
>study computer science
>use english more than my main language
>also highschool was teaching in german
Sometimes I genuinely can't remember words in my own language before thinking 2-3 seconds
Dude, we were ^^ing all night 10 years before studi.vz or facebook was a thing.
Eh, I'm to insecure to make fun of myself in front of unknown people.
okay, I'm sorry. I was just trying to say enough for people to be able to discern my accent, I didn't want to scream or whisper to have it off.
I actually had my animexx acc after i got the schülerCC one.
so i might be wrong there, ICQ and CC were basically my introduction to the internet
try this
why my pp hard
tastes like dirt, honestly.
i overcame it by slowly pushing myself and talking every now and then.
this thread reminds me that i actually had one person say they masturbated to my voice while i was posting in a vocaroo thread for a little while.
Yeah, I can see how it's kind of weird from an outsider's perspective. There aren't even any actual rules as far as proper spelling goes or anything.
No need to feel sorry. You're not ESL, are you? You sound American to me but I'm not the best at discerning accents.
German: Kant, Goethe, Schiller.
To anyone learning German: read Faust 1 if you feel ready, it's great.
Spic here. Mexicans are subhuman pigs that come to the states to fuck the very few nice things that american culture has to offer. Mexicans treat everyone like shit, are gross, rude, lack hygiene, will try to scam or rob you, will try to rape you if you're a girl. Everyone hates mexican
youtu.be
Practice. When watching a movie or something, try repeating what people in it say, imitate them. Talk with native speakers online. If you have a mic try listening to yourself and correct yourself. As a Russian, that's how I got rid of my accent. I can even imitate scottish accent to some degree after watching the entirety of Limmy's Show.
>tfw I regularly masturbate to a bunch of vocaroos someone posted in one of these threads
i feel no shame
let's hear it then user
While being non-native english speaker, between studying English in language school and my obsession with World of Warcraft (which was not translated for a long while), I got quite a bit of experience. It allows me to translate quite technical texts (like pubmed articles) without aid.
But whenever I try to speak in voice chat, I become the IRL version of Grug
"Shoot up! Enemy! Help need!"
Luckily, I`m embarassed enough about my simpleton language to remember that I have awful slav accent cykablyat, and awfull burr (had to look that word up) even in my own language.
thanks for this wonderful thread anons
you've been really good to me, I love you
>german """philosophy"""
Betas should be kill
Burger here, just cut loose my dudes. I love hearing accents. Speak on, foreign bros
how can you take yourself serious with all those -lis?
What a fucking cuck, just speak and don't give a damn about what other people think, you'll get much better anyway. I don't see what's wing with not being an EOP
Talk. Then talk some more.
>Yea Forums-fags
>imitate them
Already did
I just don't understand how to pronounce R and ING. Like should you do it softly or just go fullrussky HELLO IM AЙBAH ФPOM PAШA.
idk how. vocaroo doesn't show anything since i got a new laptop and clyp.it seems like it needs to have an account made. it's nothing special anyways so you're not missing out on anything.
We're too busy making fun of eachother's dialects to worry about that.
wa'ah, pure wa'ah
Must suck to be confused for a Mexican
>tfw self hating pajeet
never been on voice chat, discord voice calls always end with me muting myself in the first few seconds
my voice doesn't even sound very indian, it's just that I can't roll my r's or decide whether to use the british or american version of a word so I end up saying something inbetween
Kinda semi related but what's a good male to female voice changer? because I want free Steam™ games from beta males.
I unironically love Indian accents.
can we hear some?
Also decide once for BE or AE and keep using the same.
One advantage of being a half british half latino biological failure of a mutt:
Fluent in both Spanish and English from birth.
Next language in line is Japanese, then wait about a decade or so to see how shit pans out before deciding whether or not to kill myself.
sound like a fun place to be.
also best fucking chocolate on the planet. Fuck you belgium!
just do it anyway brah, think of all the people who speak worse than you and voice chat still, most people don't care and the only people who'll laugh at you are retarded burgers
>tfw I use both and mix them
Does it sound mangled to some? Yeah sure, don't really care besides it's not that bad
You're a man of perfect taste.
Also, to everybody who isn't really proficient in vocalizing English: don't begin or end every sentence with "My friend". I know you want to sound friendly, but it quickly devolves into a parasite phrase that gets annoying quickly. I've seen too many people doing that. Expand your active vocabulary.
B caмoм бpитбoнгиcтaнe вapиaций 5 этoгo R, тaк любoe нe full russky пpoизнoшeниe пpoкaтит.
>tfw slavshitter
>at worst people fing my accent amusing, at best endearing
feels good
Thank you for your valuable advice, my friend.
WHY ARE KRAUTS SO FRIENDLY?
>for vacation in germany
>order food in german
>waiter immediatly notices and keeps talking english to me
>ask for directions to a church
>strangers answer in english without hesitation.
All i wanted was to learn german, now all i can say is stuff like "Guten tag, mein name ist user." and other basics.
I'm not, I'm american, but I have a slight lisp with my s's that gets exaggerated the more I think and am aware about it.
You, you double nigger
>be born in a shithole that speaks some ooga booga language
>make an effort to learn the language of the civilized world
I can respect that
wrong, i love the "my frrriend"
youtube.com
Being slav is comfy
Europe in general has a good english education so most people you find can at least manage a simple conversation.
As for vocabulary, it doesn't really matter, we usually understand both. As for pronunciation, there are many terrible native accents, I don't care as long as I can understand it.
They're afraid of being called nazis.
Just try your best without an accent and it'll probably work out
>went to Vienna
>oh shit time to practice my dusty ass german
>try talking to a store clerk
>loading.gif
>she chuckles and switches to english immediately
I was grateful but also hurt
Wow that girl thinks shes hot shit but she is really ugly.
I'm like that and I AM English.
Mind posting a vocaroo? I'd love to hear your German.
I mean that's just the most sensible reaction, isn't it? Nobody wants to make life unnecessarily hard for others, and talking in English makes it easier for both parties.
It does suck for wanting to learn the language though. Ideally you have to find some friends that you ask to always talk in German to you so you can practice.
Also listen a lot to local radio and read newspapers. You pick up a lot like that.
yeah i noticed, but germans like talking english, i think,
The only german i really spoke was to myself and friend when i was learning in the hotel.
I'm currently without a microphone, sorry ()
it's been 2 years since the vienna trip and I pretty much never speak german, so I can't speak anything but the most basic phrases now and am insecure as fuck
which is a shame because when I was 17 I spoke on Sprachdiplom level, but learning english took over and the rest is history
Do japs say their last name first? I never understood how their names work.
talk to yourself like a weirdo
works after a while
fellow poorlak here
Yeah many people love any opportunitie to use their English skills since it happens rather rarely
Excellent thread, guys.
thanks to all burgers making us less self conscious and good night to all fellow yuros
This. I love it when some random tourist asks me for directions or something. Any oppurtunity to actually speak English is welcome.
Great thread lads!
>>can never hear correct lyrics in songs
Holy fuck, this is so annoying
Yeah, they say what is basically their last name first. Common practice across most of east asia, ties into the whole cultural aspect of elder/predecessor respect or whatever. Honouring your old folk and all that.
>can we hear some?
here you go
vocaroo.com
apologies for the clicking sound, don't know what that is
>decide once for BE or AE
don't think i'd be able to do that, it's far too late now
Threads like this one are pretty much the only reason I still come here. Yea Forums can be really nice sometimes.
y-you too!
>Skandinavians have a gay accent don't talk.
Erping with fat north american women is so easy with a scandinavian accent
one motherfucker did this at the fair in town. He leaned back too far and rippen through that canvas ceiling above him. I guess it fling him about a block away before he landed in somebody's yard.
They still use the same machine, but there's a huge duct tapped patch over one of those triangles in the ceiling.
Don't forget that we only pretend to hate each other on 4ch.
The fact that you're even trying to speak English to communicate with me makes me respect you immensely.
God speed
lmao it autofiltered the s o y in you url
>Excuse me sir?
>Yes, what's the matter?
>Can you please (suddenly switches to our native language)
That was the worst bait and switch ever.
hahahaha shit
link in is s(zero)y btw
that's hilarious, I've been trying to get it to load to give it a listen since he posted it, and now that makes sense.
kek
english is pretty good, you only have the soft R.
but definetly understandable
Your voice sounds fine, bro.
There's a little hint of indian but it's barely noticeable and it's only because i was listening for it. Trust me, you sound very intelligible.
Doesn't sound bad at all honestly but I might be biased since I like Indian accents.
You're English is actually pretty good.
You'd definitely pass for someone living in the states that's the son of first generation immigrants.
>a fucking moomin
>a fucking FINN
post vocaroo
this has been a nice bread
let's just agree to disagree
put me in the screencap
PSA to catpost in moderation
I hate that cat face and everything it stands for.
Thank you for this nice thread, friends. I really need to go to sleep now. Wanted to go an hour ago but you're all so nice here.
Pic related, it's all of us coming together across cultural and language barriers to enjoy vidya together
Thanks everyone, this was a refreshingly chill and supportive thread. Hopefully I hear a few more of you on voice chat now!
Your english is better than the fucks they import into the USA to suppress american wages.
saatana
Makes you smarter
It's not bad at all. I mumble or eat my words. Maybe I shouldn't have skipped those speaking opportunities. 333 years sup
PERHAPS HE IS WONDERING WHY YOU WOULD SHOOT A MAN BEFORE THROWING HIM OUT OF A PLANE
Here in Ireland if you go 15 miles in one direction the accent completely changes. There's fuckers down south in rural areas that I can barely understand, I just awkwardly nod along with what they say.
cya around user, cheers
man I love sad cats
The only thing you burn are your fucking burgers and chicken fingers you goddamn cave dweller
see this is your last warning
>thread about linux gaming gets deleted
>thread about language has over 450 posts
fuck the jannies
your cat posting though
that's because linux gaming is a meme
there are better threads to complain than this one user
hot
I have no issues with this thread, just wish there was some FUCKING CONSISTENCY
Another insecure non-native speaker here. All of this discussion inspired me to make a little voice sample because I want to hear your feedback. Give it to me straight Yea Forums, how bad is my accent?
vocaroo.com
I'm sorry a legitimate viyda thread got removed, user, but please don't have this one removed as well. We all want to viyda together, and language is key to that!
where are you from? Madrid?
>draw a big hips loli
>call it a shota
This is a fucking crime.
valencia
understandable/10.
would play with you.
>play games with voice chat
>nobody ever really responds
>can't tell if it's because of my voice or just because servers with good ping to estonia (right under finland, languages sound similar) are filled with russians/antisocials
This bread is dying anyways, so tell me what's up. Same pasta as op because I'm not original
vocaroo.com
like I said, have no issue with this thread, didn't report, but it's just so fucking frustrating to have legitimate threads deleted for seemingly no reason while threads that are tangentially related to vidya seem to be ok
You have a pretty confident tone, not halting at all. It's clear there is an accent, but I'm struggling to place it's origin.
Good stuff, user.
>don't talk if you're german
Accurate
t. german
Your accent is fine and understandable. I wouldn't even apologize.
Where the fuck are you from? your english sounds completely fine.
Janitors are a weird bunch and not in the funny way. Sometimes they'll delete a nice vidya thread just because posts are accompanied with girlposting, other times they'll leave completely off-topic threads alive until they decide to delete it when close to bump limit. Considering most, if not all of them, are newfags, that's of no surprise to me.
user, you sound like you're on the verge of breaking down crying or about to go insane.
But you're very understandable!
"Most easy" is a perfectly viable alternative to "easiest", and kind of proves his point.
>It's clear there is an accent, but I'm struggling to place it's origin
>Where the fuck are you from?
Answer in the spoiler if you want to take a guess first.
>not busting their balls for their accent
Either a woman or a faggot.
I don't speak very often so I guess it makes sense. If I have to speak more than half a day my throat will be sore for the entire next day
Ehhhhh, they dip into unemployed welfare almost as hard as the rapefugees.
>Finn
You're welcome in my videogames as long as you teach me how to speak your language.
Based Finnbro
The mods are really vicious and malicious.
One on /int/ and /pol/ is a Russian KGB and the one on /g/ banned an entire word because someone said his tiny pink keyboard was a soiboard.
>finn
I can speak a bit of Irish. My accent is a mix of Manchester/Bolton/Irish, I absolutely hate it, why can't I just have a normal accent, Irish people say I sound odd and so do my English cousins ( ._.)
Savage, but true.
>Irish
How does it feel to be able to verbally btfo someone by saying literally anything.
>as long as you teach me how to speak your language
Honestly, I think it would be really fun to teach Finnish to a foreigner. I would probably become a teacher on italki if I wasn't so scared of video conversations.
>tfw regularly spoke english with friends until I moved away and straight up stopped talking for almost 10 years which made my accent unsalvageable
Sure. Probably an ineffectual one. Just like burger is meant to be an insult, but I embrace that shit because burgers are delicious, as are tacos.
I'm non english too and I overcame it by speaking perfectly fluent, native english in voice chat
t. american
Huachicoleo maximus
How do I unlock that ability?
As a burger, I find abbo fuckers and seal clubbers harder to understand than bongs.
>Unlock
Its a racial passive you dope, just say anything and end it with "cunt"
The Linux threads are the ones with Sweeney being a dumb cunt, right? I'm honestly starting to believe they have a bias towards defending the fucker.