Mahjongsoul Thread

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Last one got archived before I could replay goddamnit

Mako really got the shit stick because it's more of a stack of experience rather than a power.
Same goes for players like Touka, Funa-Q, Nodoka (basically all the computer types with glasses)

Then there's the actually skilled people with batshit insane techniques which might just work with high-skilled games like Hisa or Retard Master.

When we say lesbian magic we mean bullshit like Sakis Rinshan at will, Lesbian Wi-Fi where the one partner always doubles the score of the other, Moon Magic making everyone draw shit, whatever Toyone decides to pull, East/North Gates of Jairu Baito, Tit magic from Kasumi, guaranteed Chin-Itsu with balls from Kinue

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I know that, you dumbo, but it's irrelevant.

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no bully

KILL ALL NYAGGERS

2 left bros

But I'm right handed.

What do you mean irrelevant? No bronze chink niggers are going to stay damaten

I have no chance against anyone. I'm just toi stupid to play. I guess I'm not allowed to have nice things.

c-can I come?
I am playing this cursed game for about 8 years now.

1 left
ye sure

Remember to worship best girl today.

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holy fucking shit dude. let me add you, I'll show you some stuff when I'm off work.

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>those legs
Perfection.

Because of coruse I would avoid like a plague the riichi. There's no riichi so you have no idea what they need and when. Many cases the hand is closed, and they ron me, because they are assholes without riichi.

3:4 get in here already
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I want to pull those tights down from her legs and smell them for a long long time. Hmmm!

i only played one game yesterday and only know how to richii and make sequence/pairs
also the screen makes it hard for me to see what people discarded/numbers but i will get that with time

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My deal in rate is 23.08%. I started learning how to play defensively but honestly I've just been getting lucky in my recent games

we're all gonna get there bro
it's going to be a long journey through victories, defeats and boring games with fuck all happening.

And truckloads of bullshit and asspulls.

Mahjong Zen is achieved when nothing really shocks you anymore. It's a long road.


also we're still fucking 3:4 nyaggers get in here

>just woke up
>feel like shit
>must play mahjong

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>South 4, in first place
>Player in last place is dealer
>Keeps winning, catches up to a difference of only several thousand points
>Hits riichi again
>I accidentally deal into someone's cheap tanyao
>Ends the game with me still in first place
I meant to do that.

Post a replay or a screenshot, nigger. I'm 99% sure you don't understand what you're talking about.

83011 +1 South

Me on the top left

>deal tile
>hear RONNYA
>fuckfuckfuckfuck
>oh, nice, thanks cat

What the fuck is your problem?
When the hands are all open, with 1 call each how on earth would you know some one is just 1 tile away from victory and it's exactly yours? My point is, there is no riichi so it's fucking bullshit. I understand dealing in to a riichi, and accept it, because you can know what is safe to throw away.

Can someone post the 1 sou on fire gif?

>South 4
>barely behind 1st place
>open tanyao my way to victory

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fren room is open once again
all frens are welcome
#85142

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>someone riichi's after you do and you deal-in to their hand
>they proceed to deal into your hand twice in a row
Name a better feeling, lads

welp

My problem is that you seem to think that you know what you're talking about, but you don't. There's plenty of voodoo about figuring out if the open hand is close to being finished, such as suddenly discarding middle tiles from what appears to be an open tanyao.

Not playing this piece of shit is one

>There's plenty of voodoo about figuring out if the open hand is close to being finished, such as suddenly discarding middle tiles from what appears to be an open tanyao.
Maybe if you are an autistic savant.

Man these rooms are filling fast, im 2slow

make your own room

Same, let's try 18646 then

>have a wait for a haneman/baiman
>"RONNYA!"
>it's a ta-nyao

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>have tenpai for nice hand
>someone riichis
>game immediately gives you a risky tile

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I kinda dislike that I have to login via a verification code send to my email. Am I doing something wrong?

>4-Player East
>4-Player West
Which one do I pick?

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is there any use forming triple?? you need 4 seq+1 pair to win or 3 triple+1 pair
a seq is more likely

so they used a legit strategy to take down your slow hand and you're angry because you couldn't foresee this possibility

>west
???

East is 4 rounds
South is 8 (half a full game)
You don't get to play a full game ever, not even in tournaments

ADVANCED PLAYERS ROOM

NO AKADORA AND OPEN TANYAO BULLSHIT

YAKULETS NEED NOT APPLY

FULL HANCHAN

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JESUS SLALOMLOM, I'M SORRY FOR EARLIER

fren room open again, please come play
#85142

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>3 triple+1
Four triplets. You're fundamentally confused here.
3 triple+1 is 11 tiles.

You're still right though, sequences are statistically easier to form. Which is why toitoi scores higher.

Who rinshan kaihou here

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Sometimes those trips are dora, and if you're lucky ura dora, or you already have a couple dora and just went to win quickly.

get yakumanned

Good nickname friendo

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>get a ron off with a piece of shit 2 han hand
>2 ura dora
>12k dealer mangan

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>discard a tile
>music stop

>I'm just toi stupid
Just toitoi.

you could go for the triples hands which are usually worth more

or you can go for a fast all simples by calling pons. pons are easier to call than chis (sequences) as you can steal from any player. you can only call chi on the tiles from the player to your left

so i should always discard triple?

3/4

COME PLAY AGAINST THE BEST

DEFEAT YOUR OPEN TANYAO URGES

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Riichi ippatsu tsumo

Do I play with the boys for a hanchan before work or do a hanchan in silver?
Haven't played rank in a hot minute.

>play with chiponchinks
>or play with fellow skilled anons

The choise is obvious my man

The triggered babbies are at it again.

No, why would you do that?
You're more likely to form a sequence but if you have triplets then you have triplets. It's all probability and depends on your hand and discards present.

I guess this game isn't for me, or any multiplayer game. I already have broken My keyboard and headphones because of this shit.

you are the worst fucking nyagger of them all, that's the second time you won with a bullshit last round Baiman bullshit

gg it was fun

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European Mahjong Association allowed open tanyao and akadora only after 2016. Before then everyone played without it and it was totally fine.

Sorry, I'm not of Afrinyan decent.
One lets me get a bigger rank, the other doesn;t. I've been playing with Yea Forums a lot recently.

>54100
Holy shit. I haven't even broken 30k

thanks, that was very satisfying.

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Ive gotten games where Ive broken 80k in my east dealer before from repeats

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If you have no yaku besides ones like yakuhai/tanyao or even worse a mess which would end up riichi only, and you pull a tile where you could swap a ready triplet to build for pinfu wait, then yes.

I don't get it without open tanyao this game would be boring as fuck. When I get a shit hand I'm gonna go for the easy score so I have a better chance at something worth points next round. I don't want to have to wait until the 40th draw each round for the ara ara's working on that impossible yakuman.

>Many cases the hand is closed, and they ron me
>Many cases the hand is closed, and they ron me
>Many cases the hand is closed, and they ron me
Show replay. I don't believe it. If there are truly many cases you should be able to find at least one.

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How are these the comfiest threads I've seen on Yea Forums in years?

Is mahjong the great unifier?

so what am i missing here? this yakuman in game has only 2 sequences and 2 triplets,is it one of the exceptions?

also what is baiman?

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Just to confirm you can only Riichi when you need exactly one tile, so no riiching on Pinfu. Also Riichi can only be added to an existing yaku. So its basically just a way of adding on an additional han and bullying the table letting them know you are in nyanpai.

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Cant you read? What the hand is for this yakuman does not matter

? You can reach on pinfu, tenpai is tenpai, it also gives you a chance for ippatsu, ura dora

>orasu
>i am second and the difference between me and first guy is about 10k
>finally got a mangan hand with 2 calls and in tempai
>dealer throws riichi
>first seat decides to throw away a 5 sou into my honitsu and make his hand 1 shanten
Betaori is for pussies, amiright?

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Ouch.

>when you need exactly one tile
not true
>so no riiching on Pinfu
you just cant call it when you are waiting only on last of the pair
>Riichi can only be added to an existing yaku
it can be your only yaku when you have none to win the game

Riichii is basically a yaku itself. You can riichi with anything and it's considered a hand.

You can absolutely riichi on pinfu, but it only counts if your last wait is a ryanmen wait.

You can riichi only a closed hand. Even if you're in a 13-sided wait.
You can also riichi an otherwise no yaku hand, which is one primary reason why calling is bad.

You can riichi when you're in tenpai and your hand is closed.
"Need 1 tile" means 1 more can complete your hand. How many tiles can potentially complete your hand is irrelevant.

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>You don't get to play a full game ever, not even in tournaments
But why.

>Also Riichi can only be added to an existing yaku
no, riichi can be your only yaku

Square up.
Hanchan, standard rules.

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I go on a massive lose streak every single time I play this game after finishing my dailies

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No-tennya ;(

I'm a retard. 77107

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Because no one wants to sit down for 4 rounds with the same points. After 2 rounds whoever is in the lead won't deal into big hands anyway. It's better to just play two half games with a fresh start in between.

friendly room for frens, come and have fun but watch out for the nyagger

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Damn the main menu screen is such a banger

forgot number, it's 85142

When do you stop being a brainlet? I had five games and still have no clue how the fuck you richii

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what the fuck is this reddit fren shit?

OP thank you for making a thread, but in the future please do not put "MS" in the description line, just mentioning it in the post itself is fine.

get in tenpai (one tile from winning) and have a closed hand

Stop being a nyagger.

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Why not? So it would be impossible to detect by ctrl + f in the catalogue if someone was looking for it?

-You can only riichi if you haven't called a tile from another player
-If you're in tenpai (meaning a tile can complete your hand, you can call riichi
-It's a 1000 point bet, meaning you have to pay 1000 points to be able to call it
-Means you need at least 1000 points to be able to call riichi

Never. I understand the fundamentals, but have no idea how to make it work. I just wing it everytime and lose. I have no Spatial Perception or mathematical skills, so understanding all those patterns and statistics/odds are no go.
No idea about all the shit they talk about here, can't understand anything.

This isn't a game you easily understand in 5 games, lad.
Just keep playing and learning.

jesus christ why did you guys recommend me this digital crack

blame yourself for the lack of self control

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you'll get a "feel" for things if you play enough. hang in there

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Omega brainlet with below room temperature IQ here.
So this means riichi is only worth doing if you have some shitty hand that is technically "complete" with one more tile, but it's so shitty that it doesn't even have a yaku and without riichi you wouldn't even win?
If you have anything decent, or even great, then you are better off discarding manually and keepint it a secret that you are in tenpai?

Is reaching furiten a good thing or a bad thing?

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How the fuck do you learn how to play mahjong? It has to be one of the most confusing games I've ever seen. And there's like a hundred different variants. Do you have to be Chinese to learn?

I don't like losing without any feeling of fun, so I'm giving up.

I don't even know how to play
i am just placing random tiles and pressing the chi and pon, etc buttons

Both are viable startegies.
Without Riichii, you can specifically target people since you can call your ron whenever you want on whoever you want.
Riichii is an extra han, plus you get to check uradora.

You can also riichi to bluff the fact that you might have a big hand and that other people should fold, obviously not gonna work against newbies.
If you have good waits anyway you can riichi for the yaku, might even get ippatsu.

It's actually easy af and it clicks more with every game you play. Is started 2 days ago and already winning matches. Someone post the pic for retards thats how I learned it

take a wild guess

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It's hell learning it, I've been trying for weeks and I have so little to show for it.
There may be many variations, but riichi is the only one that matters. Case in point: fucking chinks made a riichi mahjong game, CHINKS, who came up with the original idea.

The game is literally just draw and discard with some calls. All you need to learn is some yakus and maybe some border cases, but since you play online, those don't even matter.
The rest is just logic. Use your brain a little and you'll win some.

Even in friendlies against anons, I just deal into every hand that reaches tenpai. Today's just not my day I think.

>Use your brain a little
What if you don't have a brain? Internet rotted mine away.

Mahjong has many rules at the start but they're not very complex. You'll get it with enough experience.

time to grow a new one

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>Only succeed at all simples
Why are the rest so impossible? Nothing ever comes even close to completion. Draw 40 and you are halfway done with a yaku.

They are not very complex, but there are simply too many of them. The sheer number of and figuring out how and when they work together them makes it really hard for new players to get into it.

If the 13 tiles in hand and your 18 discards can only do tanyao all the time, I'm rather questioning your observation and analytical skills.

will we see mass exodus from catbros to onee san once they uncensor?

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>feel like shit
>play mahjong
You must feel good and confident before starting a game, big hands come to those with high spirit.

Guess I'll try.

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>I'm rather questioning your observation and analytical skills.
What skills

>Just found out what a Tanyao is
Aw yeah.

take a good look at your starting hands. dont just throw word tiles away.

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LAST TIME WE REACHED THE WEST ROUND

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the point is that most hands can atleast be turned into something, you dont need to unga call open tanyao all the time

>Expert level
Based on your scores, you guys barely score for anything/have gone into exhaustive draws like crazy.
What a shitty lobby.

I have been waiting for this to happen and it has literally never happened yet and I want to fucking kill someone

>experts
>no akadora and open tanyao

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Wait until you find out what kan, pon, chii, and riichi is, and you have become a full-fledged nyagger.

Putting it in the description line moves it closer to being qualified as a general. The mods moved a thread to VG once because of it. Ctrl+f can find threads with the word in the original post just fine.

not completely true If two guys throw your winning tile in the same round and you decline the first one, you are furiten on the second one until it's your turn again.
That's why it's a good defensive idea to mirror the discards of someone before you btw.

There are more yaku in the game than tanyao, pinfu, yakuhai and toitoi, my friend. Once you get your grasp around the game you will find that open chanta, sanshoku or itsu are easy to make. Open tanyao just forces the easiest way around and promotes low valued, dora chasing hands.

It doesn't help when all starting hands are scrambeled mess and 1 or 2 different honor tiles, which everyone tosses out immidiately so you ahve no chance of yakuing out of them. Everything boils down to all simples, everytime.

stop being rude
close matches are fun

Updated version by the same guy.

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gg, bed time for me

There were one baiman and two haneman hands in that hanchan, dear shitlord. Even scores are not indication or stall.

God damn, YL4 got absolutely fucked in the ass.

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Not for as long as cat has 100% emote efficiency. Meanwhile ones like this would never see any use if I were to play her.

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Big brain plays, use your bad luck in friendly matches and then go play ranked with the accumulated good luck

There is nothing that screams "bad player" more than crying about open tanyao and 1000 han ronners. If you are so much better than them, beat them and move on to the elite club. If you can't even do that, then maybe you should learn to deal with them.

>not hitting them with that after "Tsumo~ Goumenasai" for the extra tilt
Whats wrong with you?

The Sorry emote is WAY better for that.

Well I know I ain't gonna roll for chars if they uncover her titties. And her alternative costume is trash so no reason to spend money there either.

I feel like I just drew everything everyone else needed. I could've even won the last hand, but I needed a mangan or higher to drag this into west round, so I went with toitoi.

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exactly, get creative
people like
are fit to play shit like dice, if you have open tanyao enabled every shitbrain can just win everything all the time based on luck.
Once you grow up and know all the yaku it's fucking boring, you want to have the time to go big dick and you accept some draws for it.

why the fuck have there been so many goddamn mahjong threads on Yea Forums lately
also how the fuck do you play mahjong every time I get stuck trying to do that shit in a yakuza game I just click tiles until I run out of sticks still less confusing than shogi though

Reminder to learn to fold and let sometimes other players win. It can help you advance the rounds and secure 1st.

Contrary to popular opinion All simples and Pinfu are not practical to go for every time. Pinfu especially.

The Yaku that will lead you to victory is Yaku that will open your hand (PLAY FASTER) while netting you decent Han. ToiToi, Junchan, and Chanta are all great to memorize because they allow you to work with terminal tiles in you starting hand instead of trying to dumping them and getting upset when you inevitably draw more.

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I'm just bored of it.
They easily play into my big dick hands at least once per south round and I would still win dealing into them purposefully for the rest of the game.

A free full english online mahjong client just released, guess it got a lot of people interested in playing.

>MMMOOOMMM, I WANT TO USE MY YAKUMAN. MOOMMMM, MAKE THEM STOP.
Every time, lmao. There's a reason they're worth a shit ton of point, because they should be HARD to make. Removing any sort of pressure makes them less fulfilling, you faggot.

That's what makes mahjong occult af. The tile you draw on riichi turn is ippatsu. Don't waver because of your desires.

since when is Yea Forums into mahjong? shit never made sense to me

OK then keep trashing them until you reach higher rank instead of whining here.

It's missing daisangen.

>memorizing yaku
sounds like too much work

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>(PLAY FASTER)
>ToiToi, Junchan, and Chanta
All of those are slow as shit though.

this. big hands need a good foundation. without open tanyao the minecraft autist block builders can turn any starting hand into a haneman.

>my face when I see an anti-kuitan scrub near me
How come I never see this level of whining about open yakuhai?

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I've been playing it in person for years and I'm really glad there is a decent free online client for it now that I've become more of a shut-in degenerate

This game wouldn't even survive mobile version if there's no free gibsmedat

>Contrary to popular opinion All simples and Pinfu are not practical to go for every time.
I know it's not practical, but that's what the game wants. I just draw until the hand starts to resemble something useful, and it's always too late to make anything complex.

Yakuhai require risks

"wisdom" the unenlightened faggot says while he still thinks Mahjong is 100% luck based and advocates hurting yourself and falling victim to intermediate big dick hands.

if you go for ToiToi I'll notice at your second call and can usually betaori by playing only stuff I see already on the field (because if it wasn't there you would've called it). I can purposefully discard shit worsening your hand which you'll then either not call/need or it'll pull your hand down. There's way too many ways to play around it.

The king's way is to look at your hand, look at your score, look at which wind you are currently and play accordingly.

If you sit comfortably in 1st, you might either just shorten the game and call like crazy or, if the hand is easy to read, go out of your way to make it harder to read and betaori accordingly.

If you need points and are Oya, go crazy, sure.

But if you call, you open your hand and decrease the count of stuff you can throw away safely which worsens your Defense.

I think his point is that, if you know all yaku and have them in mind, you can pick the fastest relative to your starting hand. If you get a shit tons of 12/79 then it's relatively faster to go for something like a chanta rather than pursuing a far, far away tanyao. Maybe.

They are slow to "go for." Every hand is slow if you are forcing your hand to go that direction. But in plenty of games you will start of with a terminal of each suit. Knowing the hand exist in the back of your mind will save you time trying to "force" pinfu, and let you go for chanta/junchan when your hand allows. Speed is about knowing how to get into Tempai as efficiently as possible

Is banning open yakuhai even a thing, ever?

I'm not even trashing them, we NashiNashi Players are not a hivemind.
Also I was 4dan on Tenhou...

Isn't Nine Gates closed?

When are we getting an option to allow open riichi.

Yes

>betaori accordingly.
What the fuck is betaori?

If you're 4th dan you shouldn't have a problem reaching gold room. I'm in adept 2 after 12 south games.

When you "Fold"
Basically you exclusively start discarding absolutely safe tiles. You tear your hand apart to remain safe.

I've actually tried getting into it since the Japanese seem to be crazy about it, but all those """"beginner""""" guides are overwhelming as fuck.

Dealing safe tiles to avoid getting ronned, even if it means breaking up your hand.

Is there a better feeling Mahjong than when everything suddenly clicks and you start seeing all the possible paths and branches your hand can take depending on your discards?

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It's when you step down from the way of the alphaori and play safe discards the rest of the hand with no intention of winning.

Im playing at gold room rn and ppl are pretty much joukyun level players and sometime a wild tokujou player show up and tear me a new hole.
Not silver isnt that bad senpai.

It's just pattern matching.

I was lucky that I had a bunch of friends to explain it to me and just had to grind out games to understand not being in furiten. And also Yaku.

>I'm in adept 2 after 12 south games.
TFW Novice 2 after 25 games.

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>Four melds of 3 plus pair!
>At least one yaku
Start with a few simple ones at first and work your way up

When you play beta as fuck and give up and discard the safest tiles.

Well, my hag might have some magical sand up her vagoo.
Either that, or it's because chinks can't stop dealing in. I think 10 of those games ended with somebody busting out

I got out of novice in 8 games I think. It's pretty easy if you know what you're doing. If you've just started with mahjong, you won't see such results of course..

I've gotten a lot of wins waiting on a terminal/honour because those tanyao idiots can't help but drop it right into my lap

Or you just know how to play the game.

Don't worry user I've been stuck in Adept 1 for like 30+ south games now.

>I got out of novice in 8 games I think.
I think it's time to quit, mahjong clearly isn't my place.

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Stop comparing yourself to people who have probably been playing this game for years.

I'm addressing this because you are being unnecessarily hostile for no reason. I've played Mahjong for all of 6 days. No I haven't reached the point where stronger players are playing defense well. Here are my stats, I don't every hand hoping to get lucky, my style is very boring actually as you can see. I don't go for big dick hands ever.

Relax, it isn't polite to make wild assumptions about someone who is just trying to help. I'm sure there are anons like me who literally only knew about pinfu, and open tanyo and would spend half the round managing terminals and honor tiles. I know I did.

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>tfw just here to play with Yea Forums and dont give a fuck about ranks

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NEWFRIENDS: IF YOU ARE LOST AND CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE HECK YOU ARE DOING, PLEASE READ HERE:

Hello. Here is a beginner's guide and a yaku sheet here

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If there are people with years of experience, there isn't room for people like me.

what the fuck is a pinfu and why do every brainlet who play this game since 2 days know what it is, and I don't

I'm going to pon that chun

4 times out of 5 you should riichi. In doubt, riichi. It's the main weapon of the game

Who the fuck is retarded enough to drop dragons when someone has an open of the other two.
What the fuck, you fucking retards.

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Can I unlock new characters without using real money? I wanna play as cool beer girl.

It's when you make a hand so shit it actually overflows back to good and gives you a yaku for it

>Last place, final round in south
>Didn't deal in but had terrible hands and draws, only made one shitty ron
>First place deals into a haneman
>Game ends with getting put in last instead
Made the round worth seeing through.

Technically yes but in practice no

>4 times out of 5 you should riichi.
Eh, I respectfully disagree. Although this is definitely a case of whether you see the glass half full or half empty. I don't think it's advisable to riichi willy-nilly. It can easily backfire hard.

>drop isolated 2 pin early on
>could have won with closed chinitsu based on my draws if I kept it
fuck this

bros...

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>ron someone twice in a row as dealer
>they DC

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Support my game lil nigga

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Wow, she's cute.

I'd riichi only if I need it for yaku, or it's within my first 6 discard. I would consider it in the second row depending on waits. I would consider against it if you are in the 3rd discard row.

by calling a yakuhai you are gaining a yaku but you lose two potential safe tiles, you also forfeit some yaku you can only have without open hand and without triplets, as well as without honor tiles, losing you some potential points.
There's also always the possibility to draw the third wind yourself.

stupid catposters

F2Pfags, report in.

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I will if the android app is good enough

How am I doing nyaggers

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>Someone pons the haku and hatsu
>I have the haku which is also the fucking dora of all things
>Hold on to it and castrate my pretty good hand as a result
>Look up the replay later
>Some other guy at least three tiles from tenpai is holding onto the haku pair
Couldn't be helped, but still annoying.

if you play a game for 6 days and already come here spouting "wisdom" you deserve the hostility

Every time i try to get chanta or junchan without calling it takes forever, even when if i have a full hand of appropriate tiles. Some 4 or 6 will always fuck me up and the fact that people try to discard four 1s or 2s early on. In the end you'll be lucky to manage a hell wait for 1 tile but then it would probably be a better idea to keep dangerous middle tile in your hand and simply fold instead of going all out for 2-3 hand hand.

Are you the guy from yesterday's lobby who always presses the call button?

>4 games
get on my level

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jap word for alphaori btw is "mawashi-uchi" (discard-around), meaning you draw a non-safetile and make the effort to build it into your hand, usually changing waits.

what do glowing tiles mean?

Pretty sure this describes at least 70% of the thread.

dora
more points if you have them in your winning tiles

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They're radioactive, discard them immediately or they'll contaminate the rest of your hand.

someone who's already losing and just wants to end it or see a big hand for fun.

how is decided what dora is and isn't? Always random tiles or are they always red ones

slow and fast, now this is luck based and strongly depends on your starting hand. You are however right, if you force hands from the start you will be slow as shit, take it from a dude who tried to hon-itsu everything for years straight and even won some rounds with that. I see it as intermediate play (you know the yaku but decide from the start). Expert Play begins when your hand flows like water, and you make smart discards always being aware of which Yaku's probability you are raising or decreasing by that discard.

If you want to get really technical, the objectively "fastest" hand would be Chitoitsu because it's never more than 6-shanten

All they did was come off as elitist, and professional educators understand that insults have no place in a learning environment.
All they needed to say was "Your strategy is short sighted. As you improve opponents will see your open hand and prevent you from stealing tiles." At my current rank it is valid strategy.

It means they are dora meaning using them adds another han to your hand. Once I learned the basic yaku I found it helpful to start building hands around them If I got one with my starting hand.

I'm still climbing in silver because I have a job.

>took 20 games to understand what calling actually ment
I thought it was just extra points, but it seems to be just changing your tile in exhange for a better one opponent threw away and put the combo to the side.

Nah that guy was really funny, he discarded random tiles, called at every occasion even when he wouldn't have yaku and managed to bust out in two rounds by dealing into dealer's baiman while at 23k points

well yeah, scoring a sneakily concealed or just impossibly fast big dick hand full of doras and see the UI choke on all the Yaku it has to display

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its shown on your top left corner
its drawn before the match starts

Another expert lobby hanchan finished.

Man, you had balls to throw your riichi nomi against such obvious baiman on table.

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A dora indicator is flipped each round, look in the upper left corner.
Red fives aren't dora but bonus tiles that are always there.

>doesn't go 4th
Very good stat for a novice.

i always try to do the simple yaku and everyone richiis or rons before i can even get 3/4 of the tiles needed

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>me no BETAori
>me ALPHAori

>You had balls to do the only thing you're allowed to do in this room because there is zero pressure from anything other than big hands.

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Statistically, you win 1 out of 4 rounds and someone else wins the other 3, evenly distributed.
So if you properly defend, you're bound to take at least second place.
Even more so against inexperienced players who right now swarm the servers and get stuck in bronze.

red dora are the 5s 5m 5p

is the only benefit to making a closed kan the drawing of an extra tile?

Look at the top left for the dora indicator.
If it's a 5 then the dora is the 6 of that kind of tile. For the dragons it's red > green > white > red. For winds it is east > south > west > north > east.
Mahjong soul makes it even easier for you by making the dora tiles shiny so you don't have to think.

I love it when you can assemble a tricky dual wait on both a common tile and an honor tile that most expect to be safe.

Might've been me

>Red fives aren't dora
Yes, they are. Stop talking out of your ass if you don't even know anything.

exactly what I was abusing. Junchan-Iipeiko just feels like a really chunky dong.

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you flip over an extra dora indicator
if you richi this also means one more ura dora

white > green > red > white*

Exhaustive draws: The room

27
shouldn't have spent free gifts at the start

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As in they're not determined by the dora indicator.

Never Eat Soggy Waffles
Get Rid of Whities

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>somebody riichis
>draw chun same turn
>hmm im iishanten might as well drop it, he might be waiting on yakuhai and have 2k at worst
>3 concealed dora
>12000
FUCCK MEEEEEEEEE

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You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

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Fucking bullshit.
Mahjong is so popular because it's still unpredictable, nobody can guarantee that experts with years of experience will win reliably against noobs because the noob could just get extremely fast tanyaos or the occasional big dick hand he knows.

If you want to quickly gain knowledge and rank from where you are right now, read up on defense. Just try betaori for once, it really helps keeping your valuable points.
Learn patience and dealing with other people being lucky. Step down for a day if your draws are really shitting on you, there certainly are days like this.

Online Mahjong clients tend to at least stack the starting hands a tad favourably to make players stick to it as well, but it's chance based so there will be shit hands. Just see where those hands go, click the C and enjoy the internal rage while some good shit comes in (or see it crashing down while the opponents open their whole hand, telling you what not to deal anymore)

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which anime was that from

I always just think of the dragons alphabetically desu

urusei yatsura

based tetsunaki user

Urusei Yatsura. Lum is my side chick.

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>dragons
alphabet
>winds
seat order

That and it makes your hand be considered "open", disabling you from achieving certain hands, and lowering the value of some others.

1st row:
- if you just want the win, riichi now
2nd row:
- if you have a good wait but no yaku, riichi here
3rd row:
- riichi here if you're waiting on the 4th of 4 North winds or some advanced shit like triple waits, otherwise you just wasted 1000 points and put yourself in danger of dealing in


Also riiching in the 1st row can be the wrong move, let's say your last triple is 3-5 so you wait for a 4. You riichi, and next draw you pull a 6. Had you not riiched yet you could wait for 4-7 now.

The nyaggers are revolting.

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It's the bread and butter of riichi, the most standard, flexible and combo-friendly hand. Basically if you want to win and sing a whole song describing numerous yaku you have, then go for pinfu.

Also, open tanyao is for niggers.

Couldn't play a lot yesterday, here's a room !
Majsoul Friends Room 25748(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=25748

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Dora are balanced.

>scorelet
please.

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>Step down for a day if your draws are really shitting on you, there certainly are days like this.
It's everyday.

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Fucking luckshitters

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Full.

how did u win so much?i s this smurf or what

Dora were introduced into nip mahjong to make cheating easier.

where the fuck do you think you are and who is "they"
get back to whatever shithole spawned you

>start playing
>"fuck yeah so much fun I love this Game"
>3 days later
>"This game is a piece of shit I want to kill myself I WILL NEVER PLAY AGAIN"
why does it always happen. This game is dead now, what the hell I do now.

Tfw you see Saki play mahjong online.

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Pretty sure dora are replacement for chink bonus tiles

why did this guy break his 67m to deal right into my hand instead of the 78s

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how about learning to play the game

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Depends on general level of play but yea it's generally harder to go for Junchan surrounded by Nyaggers and Pon-Palace fucks

The key is to discard dangerous middle shit right away (which blatantly tells them your wait but it's Nyaggers, who am I kidding) and keep EVERY viable tile until they actually flow over.
Careful not to deal into Tanyao with overflowing 2-3/7-8 though. Or just go for Honroutou :^)

I don't want to play anymore. I'd rather kill myself.

>Some Nyagger Gets fucked in her cunny down to 5k points.
>They turn it around by winning 3 in a row as dealer and jump back up to 40k, threatening my position.
>Go full Nyagger and end the game as quick as possible with any quick hand I can make.
Fuck dude, that had me nervous for a hot minute.

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Probably because he's dumb

Because the tiles around the riichi discard are generally a little more dangerous than other tiles. You could have had something like 556 and discard the 5 for a ryanmen wait on 47 after all.

>average score 10k
>average turns 13
How even?

Afraid of your riichi discard maybe?

is just playing the game to "learn" it a decent strategy? I've basically read fuckall guides and just played the game

This is why full hanchan are better than shitty tonppusen, even if you get ronned in every hole at the start you still have your south dealer turn and oh boy if the comebacks aren't real.

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>tfw you start understanding what Akagi actually does

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why does this game make us so nervous even though we don't bet money

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long as you recognize the tiles

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The scary part it was an East Room, he just happened to be dealer last, and then happened to get 3 wins in a row as dealer.

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just go the last step and build every single one of your hands with a 北 on your right.
Only throw it when two Toitsu come together at the same time and you don't know which one to scrub off first (like 5-6-6 and 3-3-4 of two suits).
If you manage to get your four Triplets, just wait on the 北 and enjoy your easy points because nobody ever expects the Pei

do it in Chanta for extra points

Tricky waits are a fucking blessing.

My rank matters to me, so there's at least that.

don't know that feel

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I doubt he thought that far. In any case, user has discarded 35s and 4s has passed. That'd mean he had 3568s from which he has discarded 3 and 5 for a closed wait for 7s. That doesn't make sense.

When that happens, it's time to rewatch Saki or read Ten or Akagi or whatever.
Do some occult shit.

I have my Pei-chan Protection Squad Hoodie on when I play and the Goddess of the North Wind blesses me daily. Coincidence? yes of fucking course, SOA. It's fun to goof around with other Jongfriends tho

Good that I only play against bots.

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This image is fucking hilarious, and I have experienced it many times.

Ah nevermind, 4s wasn't discarded after riichi

finally, my losing streak is over.

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PON-NYA!

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>double riichi mangan hand just given to me

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It's actually pretty simple if you know the rules

>Alright, last round and I'm first, now I just need a quick tany-

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>It's fun to goof around with other Jongfriends tho
Not if you lose

I am that stats. I'm totally a smurf, yeah.
You are a smurf in this if you played Mahjong before, and I have yearly meetups with people where we do tourneys and shit. Most of them casually play online so the level is intermediate at the minimum, we also have some real magical sand fucks there and about half of them calculate points in their head.

I've played Janryuumon in 2010, Tenhou from when that became p2p onwards but once Win10 hit my PC I couldn't combine the icon for the desktop client with the payloader anymore and quit for a while, now this is out and I'm eager to unlock the waifus. But you have to climb for that.

So yeah, basically I am a smurf.

I fucking hate wind tiles
get out of my hand you little shits

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NAGASHI MANGAN

Can someone explain how this shit is a winning hand
The description makes sense but what the fuck is the example

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This is what happens if you wait too long to discard those little shits. they're a nuisance unless you have them early in the game.

I've played against Yea Forums here which is no stakes against pretty new players and I still get dopamine hits and extreme concentration while playing.
It's the perfect blend of unpredictability (luck) and skill with 100% replayability

that's not a hand
that's the discard pile

it's not a hand, it's just discards
arcturus.su/wiki/Nagashi_mangan

that's not what a discard pile looks like

It's an exception. It means a 100% of your discards are terminals or honors.

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going for EVERY hand until it hurts to throw non-safe tiles helps a lot. I play really fucking aggressive but usually don't call, add some Nyaggers kanning everything makes for easy 12k+ when you ron their little cunts

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Is there a room up?

It's a shit description with a shit example, cause your actual hand doesn't matter. You win by discarding only terminals and honours with none of them being called by an opponent and the game going to a draw. Your actual hand doesn't even need to be in tenpai, you just have to be so unlucky that it loops back into a mangan.

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>and no one has called them
Shit, didn't know that. No one calling any of them seems more unlikely than getting enough of those tiles and no one winning in that round.

you wouldnt let your daughter dress like this, would you Yea Forums?

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That shit might fly with shitters, but forget climbing the ranks with that attitude.

>daughter

only when she plays strip mahjong

>go for simple as shit pinfu in the final round
>expect to eke out tiny points
>haneman fueled by 5 uradoras

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What does "-1 Han after making a call" mean? Specifically what is a call? Riichi?

If she's with her boyfriend, sure.

No, I have sex with her naked.
Like a normal person.

Pon, chi, kan.

A call is:
Pon, Chi, Open Kan.

So would those hands still count as having yaku?

can I play the saki game if I can't read japanese or didn't watch the anime?

you can be the useless kouhai everybody pities but still wins off until you unleash your big dick hand one day and finally play with the cool kids.

Feels like shit

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>Get big hand round 1
>Just try to Tanyao the remainder of the game to maintain lead
>Literally all I can draw are Honor tiles while the other 3 are getting turn 2/3 riichis

Fucking end me from this hell.

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If you have a yaku that lets you have an open hand, yes.

how many of those were in your starting hand?

If it's more than 3 and at least one pair I start collecting.

I'd rather give up.

Specific Yakus decrease a Han if you Pon Chi or Kan. those are the calls they are specifically talking about. If you want more Han, rather, if you want to take a bigger risk, then keep your hands closed.

I like the fact that this is the actual text.
Read those chapters in Japanese recently.

google "scam saki" for a laff

But that's a boy.

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Over 9 years of Mahjong I have only ever seen one which was in real life, never online.
And I've seen chankans and Chuuren-Poutous.

NNOOOO
STOP BULLYING ME

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yeah, pretty much.
I'm only here to impress you lot, in my rounds I'm upper intermediate because I can only count han not fu and usually guess scores

just won my first game with a haneman on a chink on the first round.

you guys were right, just don't lose.

Hon-Itsu is worth 3 han closed, 2 han open.

>14 k points and getting RON'D on.
Silly Nyagger, get to the back of the scoreboard where you belong.

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Im sorry i keep being dealt trash and all i can make are quick, shit hands. I want the big money hands but the game wont let me.

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ish it good

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majsoul.union-game.com/0/?room=60328
standard rules hanchan 3+5 sec to think

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why are you still in this thread then? am I the only one comforting you?

Do people usually ditch their single dragon tiles and only keep the pairs? Because I like to hold on to each one I get at least until I see another one of it being played. Helps me get a desperate yaku if I draw a second one early on, and has the added bonus of pissing off people waiting on their pon. Until I really need to make some room, I just like hoarding dragons, man.

t. bronze room

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>am I the only one comforting you?
Yes

You deserve it, you changed into a nyagger since the last time I saw your mug.

It's ok but remember that discard reading is voodoo for the most part

"Efficiency" losers will always tell you to discard any you don't have a pair of.
I like to wait until at least one gets discarded.
I have the absolute worst luck of throwing away honor tiles and then immediately drawing them.

What are you keeping the hatsu for? Especially when someone discarded it last turn.

why do adepts come to bronze and bully me?

Once I see the basic shape of my hand or how Chiba calls this, 5 blocks, I get rid of dangerous tiles as soon as possible and living honors are up the list of dangerous.

please user, try it for another day. do it for me.
You can do it.

I wasn't even half of the replies, the whole thread is with you since we all went through that hell

Yes it is.

No it's not.

One more person is welcome.

If you only have a single honor tile, trash it. There are some scenarios where you want to hold on to it, like preventing an opponent from getting a fast hand early, or waiting with the honor as an uncompleted pair, but at your level of play you're seriously better off getting rid of any foreign wins and un-paired honors and going for pinfu tanyao instead

>need 30 points to rank even a second place will do
>-100 4th place
Fuck you game I'm back to watching anime.

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Cause experts bully me in silver

comfy casual room, come join and be comfortable
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IQ palette in these threads is breathtaking.

You shall now be my brother, I'm the dude telling everyone to keep the 北 to fuck with people.

as long as you know what to discard instead it's even viable. think about it - winds are usually pretty safe to discard, if you keep them long enough they might gracefully let you just fucking bail.

don't give advice if you obviously don't know what you're talking about

Just started, played one match. It was basically pon-palace and "tanyo - the game". Is this the average game in bronze? how is silver?

It literally is because it's all about ryanmen waits.

don't confuse play style choices with advice you dumb cunt

play south

lf>gotta go fast people, 60328

Yes, because Shousangen and Daisangen are a pain in the ass Yakus If you don't have 2 or more in your hand. they're the embodiment of trying to get Yakuhai but you can't because the third tile you need is either at the very bottom of the draw pile, or someone is keeping it in their hands to get the opened Yaku they need when you finally discard it.

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>People who never played the game
>People who played the game for years

only until you descend into sanmen entry-level waits or disgusting shit like 5-6 waits.

Why are you confusing a play style choice with advice? Efficiency losers just want to get into Riichii ASAP without taking into account what they can actually make.

>double ron'd
oof

I feel like there are people from 10 years old to 40 years old, as well.

>that double ron ending

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>that last double ron
have some mercy jesus

if this wasn't a luck based game you guys would probably just tell the newer players to git gud and call them casuals

arcturus.su/wiki/Fu
imagine calculating this shit IRL

Nice double ron but I still win. 1 place left.
Majsoul Friends Room 25748(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=25748

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Should I dust my gifts? The cookies and crystals I mean. What is the dust for?

Also, is it feasible to get a different character as F2P player?

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and sitting on honor tiles forever on the chance you could draw another for a chance at a single yaku when you could be building a better hand is retarded

Silver is the same. Games in gold are comfy.

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Ok looks like not happening. Sorry to bother.

If you don't take her advice and Riichii when you got a chance and someone Ron you, or someone else, you have no one but to blame but yourself.

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I did when I was playing riichi in Tabletop Simulator. It's nothing special, really.

2 places finally. Get in.

Guess I'll come back and try to regain my dignity after that double ron

mahjong calculators are a thing

>Tabletop Simulator
>IRL

Shit's hard, hope you get better luck this time.
full

It actually IS feasible to get a new char out of dust rolls if an event with easy to buy dust materials is going, so fucking chinks now use un-dustable gifts during the events. Looking forward to see how it will go down on EN server.

It's okay but not much more than that. Other than sucking pinfu's dick the manga isn't particularly good at mindgames, the mahjong is kind of decent I guess.

Ok, I will. For you and all others.
Sorry for this shitty drama, I'm a bipolar mess.

5 numbers outta 5 blocks, how it was won, put that together, get something like "2han 40 fu", look at the table to get the point result

This died to a yakuhai. Press F to pay respect.

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Literally just count your triplets.
2 if not terminal. 4 if closed.
4 if terminal. 8 if closed.

Multiply by 2 if it's a kan instead of a triplet.

>which yaku
Either toitoi or all terminals if you discard 5 and draw 1p

>5s

Does this game allow the Civil War yakuman?

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It's got Nanking yakuman instead

>Toitoi
That shit is suuankou material dude. It can switch to all terminals with a 1p and be played open, but it's also in 1shanten for another yakuman.

I like it

it's an actual hand

How do I become the Yaku Man?

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Why learn this mnemonic when you can just remember that it's going clockwise on the compass.

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That's bullshit, but I believe it

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wind order is something i dont understand but are you saying that it's North -> East -> South -> West?

also is this for both the dora indicator order as well as the way the wind turn order shift amongst players?

American Mahjong is bullshit.

Mahjong winds are mirrored from the compass though, so looking at the turn order in the center is better.
As for dragons, hatsu (green dragon) is pronounced the same as the word for "first", and chun (red dragon) literally has the kanji for middle on it. Then you fill in the blank space with third one.

Is there a way to switch wind indicators in mid to kanji? The roman letters confuse the hell out of me

Play in the japanese website

Just remember Hatsujou Nakadashi Paipan instead 発情中出しパイパン

What

I'm clearly NOT logged in, though

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>Keep making furiten because I don't even know how Yakus really work
I'm retarded bros

it's for the dora, not sure about the order shift among players.

>best player in mahjong
>call rate this low
is calling bad bros?

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You can't win on a tile you've already discarded

hacked, say goodbye to ur cat

*can't win on ron
Tsumo is still fine

Stop brute forcing it and learn how to Yaku. There are easy ones even a brainlet can understand.

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Riichi + Ura Dora are always better than crappy 1000 points Yakuhai.

I'm 18 points away from adept 2, too scared to play now

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Oh shit lmao, I still had it open in an old tab

>Low
You can find a lot lower rates among other top players. He just knows that calling every time you see a yaku isn't helpful. I'm at 28.5% myself.

The bully has become the bullied, MY POINTS

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Kan-Shimasu

NOTE: This line was said with Class and Elegance

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>I'm in Riichi
>Kan opportunity comes up

Any reason to make the call?

any rooms up?

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>Possible rinshan
>MOAR DORA
Yes

Does the game automatically end if somebody goes into the negative?

Dora.

More dora, chance at rinshan, more uradora. No reason NOT to if you're already riichi.

I would say yes if you have a good chance of hitting your win. If you have good draws more dora at the end of the screen is good. You dont kan when you have a chance of not winning

god damn it

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Ye

Yes. More Dora, UraDora and Rishan Kaihou Yaku.
Better if you're the only riichi in the game.

I haven't been in tenpai in so long I don't even remember what it's like. My hand never comes together. I just discard my draw for 20 turns and get ron'd on.

How do these people get turn 2/3/4 riichi's every round.

>His pool doesn't have any man tiles.
>Still deals a man tile.

You deserved it.

Get smoked, son

>tfw can never make valid hands

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Unbelievable how you can have such terrible fucking luck
Not a single starting hand worth shit in the whole 8+repeats rounds
Not once did draws get me anywhere except fucking pinfu or tanyao at best, not even fucking dora
Meanwhile there were 7 or 8 riichis within the first 10 rounds among the others, and at least 4 of those went into menzen tsumo

Unless you're taking a risk for san kantsu or Rinshan, just stick to discarding useless tiles until you get Tsumo or Ron.

yeah, those guys are smarter

I still havent figured out how get those copper things

Just do Riichi

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some saki pages really makes you think...

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efficiency in their discards

you just said you discard your draw for 20 turns thats extremely rare to have gotten that unlucky... learn more yaku or just look at your hand differently, dont chase one single set of tiles and throw everything that isnt that away

you can reshape the course of your hand multiple times throughout the game and go for different tenpai ready setups just go with the flow and be water my friend

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I'm having a deja vu here. And again it's been killed, although I opened my hand this time.

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fuck ritz' upgrades

Will I play better if I'm naked?

where my slow boys at?
I don't know the first thing about tile efficiency and I get scared real easy because I'm betaori as fuck.

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Should i play mahjong naked?

Just focus on getting at least 1 of your/round wind tile triplet or any dragon triplet and just ron/chii like a proper nyagger.

Silver or above only. But it also costs copper to play, and if you score badly you don't win it back.

This must be the secret to all those super powers.

Only if you are a cute girl

You can't get chankan'd with a closed kan (unless it's the last terminal/honor for a kokushi but you won't ever be in that scenario in your life)
There is literally no reason to not call kan after a riichi.

what the fuck is even

Concealed hand, open dick.

Why do people who don't know what the stats mean make posts about them.

so I have to pay coppers in order to get them. What do I do If I run out of coppers?

how much star dust did you huff for that luck?

Extra fu can push your score higher. For example if you already have 4 han, having a triplet of any kind in your hand will push it to mangan usually.

Are the Miyamoris just standing in a public park naked?

It's pretty cute that this game is still achieving bump limits, when it should have died off 1 week ago.

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There should be a calculator that suggests yakus based on the situation. It's too hard to pick one because if it'll all goes down the toilet you are fucked.

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If you fall under a certain amount you're handed an emergency sum.

If you fall below 4.5k, you can redeem one free daily welfare check once you are silver rank.

Dignity restored.
gg lads

we don't want the game to become TOO automated

>it's a get ronned by a full flush on 6th discard episode

based welfare shrine

3 places.
Majsoul Friends Room 25748(4-Player South): mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=25748

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Even if you pon one of your triplets, it's a haneman. Get any dora triplets and it goes up to baiman or sanbaiman. What a crazy hand.

There should be an AI that plays for you, thinking is oh so hard.

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Great revenge
I was about to have an all honor hand.
if only that 1 dot dropped.

What ever happened to the major league riichi competition thing announced like a year ago? Never heard about it again.

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ITS NOT FAIR GIVE HER TO ME YOU STUPID GATCHA AAAAAHHH