...home

I've thought a lot about this
fuck warrniggers btw
But I imagine that Classic will pull comparable numbers to retail (whatever the fuck those are). It will continue to have a healthy player base until phase 6, then a slow decline till a core player base is left.
Then Blizzard releases Classic+ or Classic [ascension]

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Squinty cleft chin face with no beard.

>Hahaha dae we're back to le home guize!!! 1! XDxD edit thx 4 the gold kind stranger! 111
Jesus fucking christ. Enough with this shitty stupid meme already, How pathetic do you have to call a fucking shitty cash grab home and then do the same stupid thread every fucking day? Literally EVERY day we have the same faggots making bullshit threads like this calling this stupid bullcrap home as if that's something cool or something to be proud of. I cringe every fucking time at this point. Each and everyone of you can go fuck yourselves.

Look at the aspects of classic that make it so appealing and change retail accordingly.
There are real systems and design choices in classic that would highly benefit retail. Things as mundane as resistance gearing for dungeons, non-meta builds that are endgame viable, less substantial jumps between item level from raid to raid, etc.

The best thing they could do is wonder "Why the fuck is it so popular" and then make retail reflect whatever the answer to that question is.

keep cringing till you stroke out, nigger.

You know what's going to be annoying? Is classic WoW is going to fucking SUCK and there's gonna be a million threads going NOOOOOOO WHYYYY BROS WHYYYY WHY DID THEY FUCK IT UP BROS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO HOME BROS and it will go on for two more months after release. I hate all of you.

nice rp, we already know that it's you who will be making those threads as a falseflag

You know they will release TBC after, and it will continue, right?

It'll be Classic Crusade after Classic becomes stale

Where are my male human bros at

>no beard

yikes. humans look like absolute dog shit without a beard in classic. mainly because they decided to give them THOSE eyebrows.

WOYIER

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lol

You write like a zoomer.

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>muh mtx
That won't keep a game alive
This is the only thing that can possibly happen at this point, but OSRS faggots are too dim to realise that a bunch of their content is recycled and rebranded RS3 content minus the new skills.

It already has sharding right? More like sharting. The gong banging event would be quite underwhelming with all of 20 people there to see it instead of everyone's computers chugging at 2 FPS with the whole server there. That was quite a sight to see.

That’s because you picked some gay face and not the one I suggested, fag.

they all bad gaylord

Maybe don’t play a h*man then.

This is rly weird I cannt tell the diff

I'm weirdly excited about collecting keys. People loved a dude with all the keys

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i only had a coupe keys back in bc, but the work it took to got them always made me grateful to have them

>grinding out rep for heroic keys (thats how they worked right?)
>the kara key quests

take me back

I doubt they have the talent to do anything with classic's success. All they can do is recreate it and then it's all down hill from there.

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can someone post all the vanilla orc female haircuts?

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sauce pls

i could but i don't feel like it

classic.wowhead.com/dressing-room#RMzz0zJ89b87T just go here

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>Finally decided on race/class now i just need to see if it's worth even playing the game again
I have so many irl things to do now, it's a lot harder to justify spending my time on this

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DOOD or MOOM

A FUCKING BALD SPOT? WHY ARE ALL THE HORDE RACES SO SHIT FUCK ME THEY CANT EVEN LET ME HAVE THIS.

thanks

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Molten Core and Onyxia are going to be a fucking Faceroll. That shit is fucking easy compared to current MMO standards. The prep is going to be the hardest part of the whole thing.

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it's not like that ingame

For sure, most of MC will be very easy. Spergs planning to require pre-BiS makes me chuckle.
But really, most of the raiding content isn't difficult aside from Naxx and the second half of AQ40.

Right looks like you're cosplaying the lion from the Wizard of Oz.

by Alah, I pray that you are right. My friends all want to play horde and I dont want to play UD meme race.

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Tryna decide on my alt character. Was leaning towards hunter because I haven't played one before and the pet distraction would be useful for snatching nodes, am now I'm thinking warlock may be a better choice, but I already played a warlock in retail way back when. Should I go for the new experience (and presumably better farming via instances) or something that will be more desirable in raids should I tire of my main?

>putting them side by side so people can't see the difference

I'm just happy were going back to raids having one difficulty mode. If it's too easy fine, if it's near impossible also great. It makes world feel more immersive and less video gamey to me.

I think you should play warlock because they are more fun then hunters. Another fun thing about replaying a class from when you are a kid, is seeing how much better you are at it now as an adult.

>tfw realizing just how far WoW's story has progressed and the sheer ridiculousness of it all
I remember helping a small group of farmers deal with a local thug problem. Now I'm on a literal spaceship, doing battles with demigods.

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I imagine places like twin emps will still be hell for a lot of guilds

Is that a real screenshot from retail? I'm going to vomit

>wh*te people lips

What is pally healing like at 60?

you press heal

flash of light, thats it.

Flash of Light until Boss is dead
Spend every 15m buffing

This. Also professions being useful, even lower level crafts being used for many different situations. Not like the current game where power creep destroys previous recipes or blizzard just straight up disables shit in zones.

-flash of light
-buffs
-cleanse
-throw blessing of freedom on tank when asked to

t. person that fucked up and made their first character a pally back in vanilla, and spent the first tier of raiding being a heal bitch until I my warrior hit 60

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I've been leveling a Warrior on Northdale just to get a feel for vanilla leveling again. EVERYONE seems to be killing shit much faster, and much more easily than me. Even if I hamstring kite half the zone seems to be full of enemies I can barely deal with, and I end up needing to grind the most pathetic mobs in my level range so I out level the rest of the quests I need to do.

I think I'm just going to live inside dungeons so 4 other people can carry me to 60.

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>if it's too easy
not fine. my biggest complaint from vanilla was how piss easy raiding was until late AQ40. BWL is one of my favorite raids of all time, but my guild moonwalked through that shit like it was nothin'.

I really wish raids had been balls to the walls hard.

Warrior leveling is so gear reliant i genuinely wouldn't play one unless i had cash to burn, or if i have a buddy to level with

How do we solve the warrnigger crisis? Statistics show their class population will be one of the highest come classic.

A heavily gear dependent class being that congested means we are going to have a lot of starving warrniggers on our hands, most begging for fury gear as well.

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the same way we did back in the day
>can you tank?
>no?
>then you can't come

I don't understand why anyone would roll warrior if they didn't want to try tanking.

True I just like running dungeons for (hopefully) better gear to break up the monotony of farming for the epic mount.

this, when I am putting a group together I never accept dps warriors

They’re the worst. Tanking is how you get your gear and make money anyways.

I tanked as paladin in bc/wotlk.
I take it classic healing is not as interesting as that?

even pvp warrs knew they had to sword & board if they wanted fat raid loot. people that absolutely refuse will be denied.

Starve 'em.

Jagex polling for new content was unironically the worst thing they did to that game.

Unfortunately that is part of the circle of life. Warrniggers reproduce more often than other classes but mostly because mortality rate is so poor. The earliest Warrnigger born will often consume it's siblings just to get a better chance at life. It will be a life of many challenges, most will die and return to the Earth to feed the grass which in turn feeds the mobs, which in turn feeds the aoe grinders & questers, which sometimes (but not often) feeds the warrniggers.

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then nothing would stop warding

Paladin tanking isnt a thing in vanilla they dont have taunt, they can do 5 mans I guess itll just take you longer

They are only viable healers, flash of light is all you do

My guild always called them warsissies, dudes waaay too afraid to be in charge of anything.

>the current consensus is everyone will blow past MC, BWL, ZG, AQ20, and the first half of AQ40
>this is the consensus when the regular playerbase on retail still wipe in heroics all the time
>this is the consensus when the majority of the playerbase didn't even see tier 5 in BC, let alone tier 6 (minus Void Reaver), and the majority of the playerbase didn't even kill the Lich King on normal difficulty in WotLK

i cant wait for these scrubs to walk into scholomance thinking the game is easy and wipe on rattlegore and then disband the group

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Is there any point in playing WoW Classic other than nostalgia? I've never played WoW but I'm itching for an MMO with an actual good social and co-op experience. I've only ever played RO on a mid-rate private server (pretty good experience because of the custom content and the friends I made) and I think one or two Korean grindfests that I quickly dropped.

How difficult is it to get a solid guild as a healadin? Assuming Im not completely retarded.

>implying scholo mobs won't dab on 'em long before based Megadethboss

warriors who tank in guild raids are the most retardded people that exist. Because as the main or off tank of a guild you HAVE to be there or the guild cant raid

say goodbye to your life as a teen and say hello to the streets as an adult.

Their leveling is so atrocious most people will just quit mid 30s

>tfw you don't like neo wow
>tfw you didn't like vanilla wow
>tfw you haven't found anything to fill the void in your life since you quit wow
Can't we just go back to the glory days of bc-wotlk?

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Not at all
As always healing and tanking are always in demand

this, they won't even bother attempting to cc anything

>wotlk
just play retail then

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I mean, going into an instance you aren't familiar with as tank is rather uncomfortable. Constantly flipping between atlas, minimap and actually tanking and can easily wipe the group on account of not knowing something.

Oh yeah, only retards commit to showing up to a group thing they enjoy 2-3 times a week.

>bc
Fuck yeah

>wotlk
Fuck you

Kill all warrniggers while leveling, separate the wheat from the chaff.

We only want the most resilient to hit cap. (No furys)

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wotlk > bc

gonna play enh shaman and you cant stop me

>the current consensus is everyone will blow past MC, BWL, ZG, AQ20, and the first half of AQ40
Nah, despite being easy most guilds won't blow through it. Most guilds will be pretty casual.
It's just that late AQ40 and Naxx will slow their progression drastically compared to the end bosses they will struggle with in other raids.

wotlk had better zones. tbc had better everything else.

I think TBC had better zones too.

>BC-babbie instantly becomes butthurt
stay mad fag

except for gameplay, story, raids, visuals, atmosphere etc

>less video gamey to me.
What the fuck does that even mean?

The only good zone was Nagrand, everything else was shit
sholazar, grizzly, howling fjord, zul drak were decent

you can't be serious
wrath zones are literally iconic, with players taking RP walks through them. tbc best zone was zangarmarsh, and that's it.

wotlk had better balancing (except dks) it had better pvp, better raids, better atmosphere, it had the single best storyline in the game and all the quests were interesting.

Will Azazel-sama be coming home?

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Please

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>what will blizzard do when you give them their money?

Laugh at you for being a retarded pay slut willing to pay full price for a 15 year old game?

>full price

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>$15/month isn't full price somehow

dumb home fags

Damn inverted ankles is such an odd fetish but I can't help it

fuck off chang

>subscription based game maintains a subscription

How could this happen?

Most people going warrior have never played vanilla and are just parroting what youtubers say about them being really strong
Most probably won’t make it past 30

WoW Classic offers a vastly different experience than than retail, the difference being mostly in social aspects of the game and character immersion/progression.

People have been trying to push this nostalgia narrative for so long now, it has been disproven times and times now by flourishing vanilla pserver communities if not else.

Really easy since paladin healer is the best you can ask for for raiding imo
They are always on demand

Warkeks in for a rude awakening. Stay the fuck out of MY zones (ashenvale, stv, feralas, deso, azshara, winterspring, stone talon, un goro.

I'll let you level in other zones, be thankful you even get that

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>I'm still willing to pay full subscription price for an old game

Homefags really are the dumbest people on Yea Forums.

Mage here. Too all the warlocks you guys are cool. Let's please not be retarded like this

>Obviously won't happen.

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I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of guilds instantly fall apart when they wipe twice in MC.

yeah, you hop on some light powered spaceship and go fight the legion on argus

>People constantly memeing on how shit warriors are before getting fully geared

All it takes in world pvp is 1 crit from a whirlwind axe to get absolutely fucked

Who the fuck would want to give blizzard money after the diablo incident?

>still can't decide between priest or paladin

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Nothing more pathetic than being a warkeks bitch lol.

Retard

I think what user's getting at is that multiple difficulty modes hurt his immersion as it doesn't make sense for established enemies to have variable power levels.
I personally think that raids having multiple difficulties is one of the few great changes they've made, but I see where he's coming from.

Reward good behavior. Punish bad behavior

More like they won't let it happen. They're already rolling the subscriptions together so they can lie about retail numbers to the shareholders. Also they'll probably never give out Classic vs. Retail player counts or any other data to indicate which is more popular.

lol these threads are so fun to read, in vanilla you can pretty much do what ever the fuck you want. only hard part is to have consistent 40man roster because in the end, vanilla is only about gearcheck and preparing consumables / buffs for raids

Warrior pretty much loses most 1v1s while leveling. They all bleed out while getting cc/slowed to death.

Women in their middle age with nothing better to do except play games all day.

Blessed and based post

Bawww r-retard! Just make sure warkek wears a condom. We don't want any more walking around.

pve or pvp?

>pvp
pally, because freedom and buffs are a warriors best friend
>pve
priest, because more shit to do

>Women

I'm a woman now? Thank God. Easy mode starts today

For me BC and wotlk is home. So if they go forth with BC I'd be happy for a while.

Retard

Retail is already BTFO'd and Classic is killing it just with its own hype. If they don't try to push Classic as the main thing instead of retail, Shadowbringers will give WoW the killing blow it's been needing.

Both... Although it might come down to whether or not my old retail buddies are going to play Classic seriously and their faction.

1.13

Discuss

>A suggestion of something that falls undera category means that all things under that category are that thing.

>warrior is so great when they get a level 40 weapon at early 30s
Come on now, it's not like warriors get something like the whirlwind axe all the time. Most of the time they get shat on by orange mobs if they don't have a decent weapon for their level.

Warniggers wish they could even get close. I guess you could kill a disc leveling priest? But not much else. Druids, mages, hunters, warlocks, rogues (maybe), shaman all pretty much dab on them with their CC

:'(

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>WW axe
Not gonna easily happen on a fresh server. Warrniggers are gonna be stealing corpsemakers from poor shaman's instead.

>user, you're always so nice to me. Much nicer than my kids
>Thanks for always being patient with me even if I screw up
>user, why don't you ever mention your girlfriend? There's no way someone as sweet as you doesn't have a girlfriend. Huh? You really don't?
>Check out the new pants I got! They're kind of revealing, though. There's no way I'd get away with wearing something like that in real life
>What kind of girls do you like? Older ones? [uncontrollable giggling]
>My breasts are so swollen today... Oh! Did I say that out loud?

This is your MT for the night. Say something nice about her

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>join guild
>become close friends with a girl
>turns out she's a hot milf in real life
>reveals that she has a thing for me
>starts flirting with me
>described to me what she was doing to herself
>asked me to make myself cum while she talked dirty to me via whispers
>we continued to this for months

Before anyone asks she was a girl I confirmed it. And this was way before the tranny meme blew up. I wonder what happened to her

Is there anything more pathetic than being friendzoned by some tubby middle aged hambeast over the internet?

I met a married mom through ultima online, she even drove a few hours to visit me.
She was like a 4/10 which should already be obvious if she's traveling to meet some fucking dork from a video game but at the time i thought i was a pimp.

Did you fug?

I'm not sure whether the people in this game (pservers) are retarded, prideful or whether my point is unclear. I tried to make them kneel before me with the combination of pointing at them and then kneeling down quick, hitting them and repeating it if they didn't do it, with some /nos thrown in.

End result: +30 dead horde. One bowed and one begged so I let them off the hook. 2 salty whispers from angry dead horde.

Yep

This literally happened to me, sort of, we ended up sex chatting on ventrilo and sending pictures. I was like 15 at the time.

then my mom found out and called the cops and it was a really unfun next few months being in therapy

>allytranny autism

How much longer we gotta wait yo? I just wanna go back to chillin with my homies in Azeroth.

remembee to check your email every morning in case you find a beta key

>only hard part is to have consistent 40man roster because in the end
Not sure how it will translate to classic but at least in my pserver guild this was often the most difficult thing in the world. There wasn't even any guild drama or loot issues (at least nothing out of the ordinary) but people would quit all the fucking time. Not even just to join other guilds but just stop logging on - which i know is the nature of the game and probably even more prevalent on private servers but still.
It was a struggle since someone would quit, you have to get someone else, they're often not geared or attuned, you help with that, then someone else quits, etc etc. And if you run a raid short on people, depending on your gear levels it can just go poorly or at least take longer than it should.
Other guilds had it worse with tank poaching which i'm 100% sure will happen in classic.

Hovering around 40 is also annoying since your bench isn't very deep and you feel obligated to not gkick cancer as swiftly as necessary.
This was a late night PST time zone guild so that was part of it, just not as many on the server were into that as it's too late for east coast, a bit too early for most australians too.

we'll get news tomorrow, either beta, launch, or news about both.

Nothing? Requires the same sub and Vanillatards have stated unequivocally they want vanilla to be vanilla, so once they reach Naxxx they just get to sit back.

What's the biggest bag size in Classic?

18 slot from onyxia afaik

really? Tomorrow?

you think they will do beta?

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i dont think so. i think they'll just move to tbc.

why tomorrow?

believe 18 slot, not counting specialty bags like soul shards or herbs, etc. (i dont recall what those carry at the high end).
think 4 diff 18 slots, the crafted one, one from zg, onxia, and uh... i forget but i remember it being 4. some rep thing i think but could be easily looked up.

We heard the exact same shit about OSRS, and look how it turned out

what is a bond????

>use mommys credit card to buy bonds and sell for gp
>buy the best armor in the game right out the bat

huh, I wasn't checked in
weird thing though, I have overwatch active, but I never paid for it, why do I have it?

Never had that issue when i played on a pserver, and i was in a casual progression guild. Also, for attunements people mostly took care for it themselves, or got with other people in the guild who needed it.

'ate humies
'ate stinkin' elfs
'ate the alliance queers
'ate shoes

Love the horde
Love PvP
Love pints
Love me wife
Love me warchief

Simple as

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>doesnt realize gear requires stats

stop replying to finalflash
>inb4 warkek
nah I play an actual stealth class and I will dab on you nigga

FF hasn't been here since he got catfished and doxxed when he went back to Archeage.
Also literally no chance he can afford 18 euro/mo.

had pretty much the same, people just burn out. our thunderfury tank ragequitted just before naxx, so thats that. managing loot is also pain in the ass

Can't decide between being the leatherworker everyone goes to for their gear or the alchemist everyone goes to for their potions.
What gets you the most gravitas?

He got BTFO when people realized he had no dad, killed himself.

I personally hope we get to go through the wild ride all over again. I would play until end of mop

>gravitas
neither.
if you want to make money, potions.

neither is going to happen because you wont be in the best raiding guild on the server

>warnigger shows up to dungeon without shield
>group all starts roasting him
>he claims he can tank just give him a chance
>say alright and inv
>start dungeon and he pulls two elites
>/laugh and watch him die right before we kick him and zone out.
Warkids hehehe...

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>according to /home/, literally every class is for fags, niggers, trannies, tryhards, retards, etc.
Is there one (1) class you faggots can universally agree is decent?

Playing OSRS rn, I've never even made it to endgame rs really, my only 99 ever being pre-ge fletch and magic, but I really don't mind RS3 esque content. Really I dont even dislike RS3 much, it just has a few fatal flaws and doesn't feel much like RS anymore.

rogue

Rogue is for faggot nigger tranny tryhard retards

Nope.

Crass buttmad zoomer roll out his moms in 2002 and never saw /home/

sharding will kill classic.

warrior = small dick
warlock = big brain
priest = team player
rogue = faggot
druid = biggest brain & nature pilled
paladin = tranny faggot
hunter = could be based
shaman = definitely based & naturepilled

What’s the one class-race combo that will always trust to be a bro and have your back? For me it’s troll shaman, never met one I haven’t liked.

no, rogue rapes allytranny incels and this makes it a based class

>he got catfished and doxxed
>Also literally no chance he can afford 18 euro/mo
storytime?

Tauren warriors are pretty based. Undead and Orc warriors are almost always dickheads.

Who is the runner up most based class? We all know number one belongs to druid but really who comes even close?
fuck off warrniggers

>will always have your back

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Warriors are literally subhuman discount rogues while leveling.

Shaman. I’d never play one, but I’ve always respected them.

Priest
>heals you
>buffs you
>is a total bro

>be me
>be kid
>be BeeCee
>in some guild with ventrillo, there are two girls, one a milf and the other a 20 something
>begin to thirstily ERP with both of them
>end up creating guild drama, and catfights
>focus on ERPing with the 20 something, do phone sex, and calls at lunch break at school
>eventually you realize anyone who plays WoW, and ERPs/has phone sex with kids had mental problems
>drop contact after she has a few manic episodes in a row
>drop the game because WoW is shit, come back to check the new expansion, get a guild
>people in guild start saying some crazy person is whispering them and talking about me
>it's the 20 something psycho
>she makes a few alts and tries to get back with me

>all I want is to just get shield slam crits in PvP, and cap flags
The lesson to be learned is that you should >have sex so you don't get distracted in game by ethots, and miss a Gromsblood node.

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Just give me BC without the flying. Karazhan and Zul Aman are the most based raids in wow's history. Comfiest shit ever

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>mind controls you off of the ratchet/bb ship and jumps you into fatigue waters

why in the fuck could gnomes be warriors but not hunters?
why are gnomes even allowed to be any melee class that isn't a rogue?
really rattles my autism

jesus christ get over it already, it was only a few hours a day

>implying anyone else is autistic enough to spam druid pasta

why the fuck would there be gnome hunters

I know that feeling. This 35 year old married woman was sending me nudes for awhile during Wrath, and begging me to fuck her in front of her husband (they lived like two hours away). I rerolled and changed my number because the bitch was so clingy.

I cant wait to put Charlie's in the ground in STV

only if you chose the wrong faction at start :^)

Dude if you've never played WoW I honestly think WoW classic is great experience. People here aren't just here for nostalgia, it was genuinely fun and immersive.

definitely pretty based, stam buff is useful and shield is nice to keep random damage off nontanks in dungeon
based in dungeon content

a gnome shooting a gun is more feasible than one tanking

left.
Everyone saying they are the same is faceblind these are clearly different

what this pasta?

Based druid reference dump
Tanking endgame content
>youtu.be/alH2QXm8MM8?t=1
>youtube.com/watch?v=mNGo5SMeqgo
>youtube.com/watch?v=n70syHDWfr4&t=85s
>youtu.be/gk1CrOL3JiI?t=100
Farming in heal spec
>youtube.com/watch?v=V9sI38mG46k
Farming lashers in dm
>youtube.com/watch?v=rttXIFcLv2o&t=12s
PVE spec = PVP spec
>youtube.com/watch?v=o7KXRMv0iZw
KILLING named quest ELITES SOLO /w appropriate gear @ level.
>youtu.be/PKdHFSpVY_I?t=178[Embed]

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it's the same, right is just within smelling distance of an undead

>Left: FOX News
>Right: CNN

why are all human and undead players so fucking bad?

>shadowbringers will give WoW the killing blow it's been needing.
No it won't lmfao.

In terms of building 40 man raids, which specs are outright refused an invite? Which classes will get the fewest spots

I was literally about to post this before I refreshed, wtf

>AAAAAAAMBUUUUUUSHHHHHH!

Such a reddit post

It's the default choice of race, almost half the Horde on Nost played undead.

>playing human
Even if you are a fag who plays alliance other races are better at their classes. Maybe except warrior but big maybe

ret paladin
shadow priest
boomkin druid

basically any meme spec.

think shadow priest which is only brought for the shadow damage debuff
as for straight up least popular class its probably druid

Its 2019, raids will be filled with all specs. Except for guilds pushing for firsts.
The pserver tryhards who try and speed run MC arent going to be relevant in retail classic.

They'll just walk through the old progression again and stop making new content, and everyone will love them for it.

enhancement shaman, non-frost mage... there’s too many to name

I don't understand ppl who think they will release the expansions, it would defeat the whole purpose of Classic.

or just dualwield fury tank them :^). only had problems in strat living

well you probably get to raid in a meme spec but prepare not getting any loot, since you are the last one in priority

I think it will be pretty huge on release. 1-60 is pretty damn fun then gearing out BIS in 5 mans. PVP should be going good. Then you hit the wall of grinding MC, BWL and Ony and people burn out. Oh and ZG another must farm raid. Like all these raids it is fun the first few times but quickly wears off when you realize how aids the trash is.

Maybe they come back when AQ comes out who knows.

Cool. Thanks for the responses.
I’m probably just gonna roll a lock

otherwise good but boomkins and spriests get spots in raids, both are not needed but getting 1 is nice always

Deeps shaman/paladin, fire mage if you insist on using it in MC for whatever reason, shadow priest, boomkin. You can still do it if you have the guild leaders balls in a jar but it's not something to have your heart set on. Rogues have seemed to always have the most trouble getting spots typically since they're always one of the most popular classes and a lot of people want them as geared alts.

Paladin healing was never interesting in good versions of WoW. Tank healing is boring as fuck in raids and thats pala speciality

BC should have been after Wrath. Wrath should have been after Cataclysm, and Cataclysm should never have been a fuckover of the world, it should have just been a "fill in the rest of the zones/island" expansion.

After people are tired of vanilla and don't want to go back to retail, it does't seem impossible. I don't consider it especially likely, but at least burning crusade would in my opinion be well received. Wrath would also probably go well, at least before 3.2.

I wonder how long between "phases"

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It’s ironic because they used Cata to make questing easier to attract new players but it was the beginning of the end for retail and their sub count never returned to WOTLK peak.
Devs need to realize that people want a challenge

6 months at least. Keep in mind that they are in no rush now to provide content. People sign up to stay in Classic indefinitely.

Just fyi, lock starts out as one of the lowest DPS classes in early raids then becomes one of the highest. Look into the demonic sacrifice spec, it’s what you’ll probably use in raids. Also, if you want to minmax with racials, I’d recommend orc for the Horde and gnome for the Alliance.

Yeah I figure their utility makes up for their early lackluster performance.

Will there be city raids? I just want to storm Orgrimmar boys. I did it once on a private server; we water walked up the coastline until we got to the river and they never saw us comin

Wow all that PVP in deep down in P3 and 4. That seems dumb.

I think it's pretty optimistic to expect the majority to actually hit 60. The complaints are going to be through the fucking roof.

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>those little paerver patch videos
Those were coo

Shadow Priest until Naxx, Arcane Mage, Non Marksman Hunter, Affliction Warlocks, Ret/Prot Paladins, Elemental/Enhancement Shaman, and Balance Druid are out, Shamans/Paladins will cry that they can Nightfall when a prot specced warrior off tank should be doing it when not tanking. Druids, and Hunters get very few slots averaging 2, 2H Warrior is okay on Horde, and only really seen on Ally in early MC when you get a massive upgrade from blue weapons.

Hopefully most people stick with it. The journey to 60 is pretty fun so hopefully there aren't too many retail babies that quit

DPS meters isnt the end all be all to a succesful raid, you need to stop worrying about them.
Every class has its own job that it brings to the table.
The only dps meter you should ever even consider looking at is the one that only contains your class.

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Doesn't matter unless cutting edge. First few tiers are gonna be 20 manned and ony even less used. Would be cool to see her kill with less than 15 in current tier

>Not being ready for the Tarren Mill vs. Southshore battle in Ph2

DS is a shit spec that shouldn't be used. Not only do you gimp yourself in anything that isn't a raid, you also lose in dps to SM/Ruin in any fight that allows you to put a corruption on (essentially all of them because of 16 debuff slots since the start, unless you get cucked by the other warlocks), but also in fights where your pet isn't in a danger of dying. And if there are multiple targets, you lose even harder.

Cataclysm should of been "Goblins for horde update". Not sure what they should of added to alliance, but certainly not werewolves - lycantropy is a disease, not a race.

youtube.com/watch?v=8o8jYFtZGQ8

this guy is based

Who are you BTFOing with this generic non statement?

High elves

more than anything I just hope it makes Blizzard realise again what makes an MMO good

Resets under the guise of catch-up mechanics and 'expansions' are not it, old content should never be meaningless. Though I fear retail is the way it is because they simply found it was the best business model

>ctrl+f meter
>You're the ONLY post talking about it
?????????

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Perfect.

As someone that plans on playing Classic and is a fan of Vanilla, I would be okay with them trying to either create new expansions in the spirit of Vanilla instead of going to TBC, Wrath etc. Would be cool to see a different timeline where the lore gets fucked less.

I also wouldn't mind eventually adding new raid content after Naxx, once again in the spirit of vanilla content. I mean there are a lot of spots on the map in Vanilla WoW where they could have added (or planned to add) additional raids. You got Karazhan, Hyjal, Uldum, Grim Batol, Dragon Isles, Caverns of Time etc etc.

Although even if they decide to do one of these ideas (they probably won't) I'd still like there to exist servers that strictly exist for Vanilla as it was.

>mfw running around as a Holy Pally and saving people from ganks and mobs with my quick healz
>tfw get many frens this way and game is a breeze since I always have someone to call for help
Don't worry warrfrens, I got you!
Trully the most /comfy/ game

What about human bbc?

I bet Blizzard already retconned the lockout system to deny 35 people in a raid dying and leaving to skip the lockout and then do another run with less people/alts filling and rotating.
Also:
>cutting edge doesn't matter, but everyone will be 20 manning Rag
????

High Elves for alliance (I mean, they have actual buildings instead of mud huts and wear shoes) and Gobbos for horde, no fucking squidface aliens, werewolves, pandas, "another humans as different race", "another blood elves with different color", "another trolls" and that shit.

forgot pic, fug

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>retail is the way it is because ((they)) simply found it was the best business model
Fixed

t-that's clearly her spoils of war.

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>maraudon
huh?

>bbc
>human
Pick one

No, give us ogres like they originally intended.

welcome to warrior. enjoy doing this until lvl 60. i'm not kidding, it does not get any faster, it actually gets slower. you feel REALLY good if you're lucky enough to finish your whirlwind axe at 30. You feel strong for like 4-5 levels and than you go right back to being a slog.

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What the fuck are you talking about. Sounds like you're trying to cover your own ass

theadly reminder that there will be a raider.io score equivalent for classic when it releases
there also will be a vanilla version of oqueue
addons will ruin vanilla

>huh
no god pls don't hit me with another fireball

I doubt they will, the mass majority of MMO players will likely find it far too slow. Wasn't there an uproar in regards to retail like a year or so ago when they made levelling take longer? Not to mention I doubt most will take it seriously what with all their collectable shit being on retail.

There'll be complaints all over about Quest/NPC's being dead from PvPers, especially with no dishonor system being added in at the start, as well as drop rates for quest items. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed classic way back when, and look forward to playing through it again with friends, but most people hyped for it never even played classic and only have things from retail to go by.

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>see warlet in the wild fighting two mobs
>throw weakest dot on him
>watch him instantly lose all hope and let's himself die.
wtf warrs, I thought you were supposed to be the badasses of 'nilla?
Why do people want these niggas? Just cause they big?

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>Though I fear retail is the way it is because they simply found it was the best business model

I think they actually fucked themselves longer term because they were greedy. Nearly every step they had was trying to make the game more casual and anti-social to attract new players. They kept pushing this shit over and over and most of the old playerbase left because they didn't like the direction of the game and the new players they managed to attract well they weren't very loyal and didn't see the big deal because it was so easy and pointless. They only salvaged it because they milked the fuck out of the few fanboys whales they have left by selling them a reskinned mount daily because they make so many of the fucking things.

please not more elves
alliance is faggy enough as it is dont make things worse

>there are dumb fucking warrior idiots on this board who don't know how defense works
Noob warriors will try to fight mobs 2 levels higher than them like they're playing a mage and wonder wtf they're doing wrong when they have 10% hp left after every kill because they miss so many fucking swings

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Alliance are handicapped by default so they want to include the fucking moron race

This. High elves / Blood elves went to Outland with Kael'Thas, they aren't even left on Azeroth in the [proper lore] and Silvermoon was destroyed by the scourge so it should look much like the ruins of Lordaeron / Undercity in game.

Ogres for the Horde makes perfect lore sense.

fighting green mobs is quicker yea but you're still left in the shadow of literally every class except maybe paladin

>play druid and rogue on pservers
Stealth was TOO comfy. I don't think I can go back. Just watching people do things while totally oblivious to me made me semi hard every time.

I see a strong, fat, ugly abomination and I want it to represent me in game.

this, but without the sexual implications.

I'm assuming 3-6 months, but hopefully phase 2 comes out closer to three months than six. Not having the Honor system out is an awful decision.

>no dishonor system being added in at the start

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I know the feeling. After Nost I tried playing a priest and couldn't handle it, feeling so exposed at all times especially in the more lethal contested zones wasn't comfy.

I would play as and elf for Kael'Thas to fuck up everyone else.

>Patch 13.0.1
>Lakeshire has been fortified by guards

This but including your sexual implications

An Undead Rogue will be my first alt after leveling my human mage

>not just any guards, but lights hope tier guards, that charge you and knock you back 100 yards

Youll get a lot more money getting $15 a month from 5 million people than you will from the 250,000 that would be left over if they did that

>...home
yikes

>tfw he was right in the end
enjoy your dead servers 2 weeks after release when the zoomers and e-celebs left

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I honestly think Classic will destroy retail, there were 13 million subscribers at Wrath's peak, and you know damn well 90% had their heart broken by Cata.

They've been dreaming of coming home ever since, and now the dream has become reality.

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Is "classic vs retail" one of the few times "soul v soulless" isn't just a meme?

>still no news

what are they doing?

stfu Brackers
>youtube.com/watch?v=wDXtut0fDmI
no one wants to come home to THIS

Most of us have grown up, have full time jobs, maybe wives, maybe kids, a house to take care of, no fucking time for classic wow.

>yikes
...home

How will the servers be dead if we are still playing on them?

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It is pretty bad and I think it is the hardest out of all the characters. You literally only have auto attack until level 40. The RNG of overpower and whirlwind at level 35 I think.

Once you get bloodthirst at level 40 an actual attack outside of autoattack. 2H fury is the way to go imo its decent but still behind the other class.

Its the only class I play and have done it 1x exp on 3 classic and 2 tbc servers. And yes it makes me want to kill myself. But I love tanking and once you cap out its fun.

There is very high chance that blizzard will die before releasing it hopefully

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>job
>wife
>kids
>home
What kind of insane person would want ANY of those things in 2019? What a cucked and boring life

Literally who cares. New humans have been born, and they wanna try out Classic.
Go to work dad, i'm "sick" and have to stay home from school today, so i can grind in AV.

like 90% of the initial playerbase will be retail players because they'll probably offer a battle pet or mount when you buy classic.

those players will bail out after a month when they aren't even at level cap and realize the game makes you work for things.

As if a WoW player would want any of that except their own house so they could play in peace.

0/10

it's never a meme. it also applies to that remake of Crash Bandicoot. the old versions retain the soul

>nuclassic releases
>zoomers, wrathbabies, and e-celebs start flooding onto every server in existance like a swarm of locust
>zoomers, wrathbabies, and e-celeb proceed to shit up every single server
>hype dies off 2 weeks later and they leave, leaving behind a bunch of empty, barren servers

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They aren't going to sell classic my dear friend and beloved fellow user, it's going to be downloadable from the battlenet launcher as long as you have a sub.

>Zoomer zoomers zoomer zoomers
>2 weeks 2 weeks
Just go collect some mounts, will you.

yikes

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go back to Cosmetics of Mountcraft

I really like how all these hats are basically designed to be worn backwards at all times.

warlocks are chads. humans specifically knowing they'll be fighting hordes of nuhorde undeads. Orcs secondly, undead are stinkers

based

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Thinking Classic WoW would be a good game as long as a flood of zoomers don't ruin it is already overly optimistic.

I like this version the best.

Shamans are dope.

Im mapping how much gold I would need for my talents while leveling, at level 40 I would need 32G 25S, since I'm leveling a Warlock, do I really need to level up most of my Imps skills or can I get away with just buying Blood pact for dungeons?

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Asking about Classic. I can't decidd between mage, rogue or warlock. I love wpvp and amassing gold, but I also want to be invited to raids. I plan to play for an absolute shitload for the first months, like 12-16 hours a day. I can't decide if it's worth having alts in vanilla/Classic, or if I need to maximize focus on a main to make sure I can stay in raids and gwt geared?

>mage has fantastic utility with drinks, foods, mama gems, polymorph, frost nova, blink, teleports, portals, etc
>they have consistently good dps, and the best ranged dps class
>one of the top classes for gold farming, combined with the lowest repair costs as cloth

>rogue is one of the top melee dps choices and has lots of ways to CC at least one target
>the best ganking class, the one most fun activity in the game
>has minimal utility, can stealth and open lockboxes though
>terrible AoE, terrible gold farmer, but can safely pickpocket BRD at least

>warlock has a super chill and strong playstyle, but heavily gear dependant before they can beat most others in dps, still powerful in pvp
>good utility in various pets, healthstones, soulstones, summoning portal, and lifetap into drain life nearly no downtime in grinding
>decent gold farmers, not sure about capabilities but they can apparently do both lashers and princess runs

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>loved Wc3
>didn't bother with WoW until last 3 months of WOD
>bored as fuck and stuck it out for legion
>hated the RNG, but liked story shit for classes, stuck around till ToV
>came back at end of Legion for mage tower
>bought BFA unsubbed faster than legion, so fucking boring, rewards felt hollow, game play somehow worse

maybe...classic will be home?

mmm enh shaman

I was the biggest classic nerd back then. I quit my semi pro q3 career to play it 24/7. I played all classes, cleared naxx and got 2x rank 14.
Frankly, I'm not going home, guys.
There are no alternative routes I could take to experience the game in a different way. Only thing that could be fun is to 1shot people in BGs once again.

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Can shaman use 2handers in classic? I need my TuF

>stealth, pickpocket & lockpick
This does it for me. I couldn't live having to walk past a locked chest because i played a class that isn't Rogue. And pickpocket is the best skill in the game, who doesn't love stealing stuff?

>boomkins
no

About rogue I forgot to add that I would also stick with mining, just to sap/kill people and steal their mining nodes. I could spend full days of playing just doing this.

>I played all classes, cleared naxx and got 2x rank 14
You're lying.

>I plan to play for an absolute shitload for the first months, like 12-16 hours a day

wtf is wrong with you

>who doesn't love stealing stuff
Sure, Mr.Goldberg.

Yes I can. I'm rolling Alliance.

This still haven't been adressed by blizz. It's literally over if the servers are going down when theres more than 40 people close by

Thank you BASED mon. Tooska and Boomshaka tribe decided this is final for now. Perhaps da things change once Classic releases, and the Blackmoon Tribe is contacted again.

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I like games and I have no reason to work again until next year.

I wish I was.

Imp dps is garbage. The shield could be nice on the tank but it's probably not gonna make any difference. Most locks never bother casting it anyway so nobody is gonna give you shit about it. Save your gold imo.

What do you think the absolute bare minimum number of people needed would be to full clear each raid? I didn't play vanilla so I don't have a clue myself. With how much min maxing and knowledge there is now, I wonder how far you could push the limit of under representation in easy shit like MC or Onyxia... but even in shit like Naxx I wouldn't be surprised if you could be well under a full raid at some point.

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>After weeks of R&D, experimentation, and prototyping, we were confident we could deliver the classic WoW content and gameplay without sacrificing the literally millions of hours put in to back-end development over the past 13 years.
Here's what millions of hours of coding done by morons gets you.

>you go faster while stealthed

I save about 3G if I don't buy that shit, which is nice.
Man I wish I went complete Autist as a kid playing WoW rather than buying everything.

>Swiftmend Resto
>Moonglow Resto
>HoTW Resto/Tank hybrid
>DPS/Tank Feral hybrid
>Pure DPS
>Pure Tank
>Balance

These are all the Druid specs for raids right?

because tanking pre wotlk is absolute cancer dogshit

Idk if it's some cloud based server bullshit or sharding that fucked overall big battles in retail but even on my trash computer back in 06 I've never seen that happen.

I wouldn't bother with swiftmend builds, it really isn't a great ability. Better off being moonglow or feral/resto. both good for raid both can farm without respec, and both pretty okay for pvp.

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Do you guys buy the last bank slot? How much was it again?

Are zoomers actually excited for Classic?

You def don't wanna go pure on a druid. they do a hell of a lot better dipping halfway into trees, and depending on what you want. Hotw resto is probably 'best' for pve content and flag running. But from what I've seen it looks like even with defensive talents druids can kill most in pvp if you try your ass off.

just find a healer and kiss his feet
warrior is pretty damn fast when you have no downtime and can use cleave and sweeping strikes and shit instead of HSing to 36
also, it always seemed to me that your rage generation shoots through the roof as soon as your gear is better than just alright, keep an eye out for STR/AGI pots and get yourself some cheap enchants on your better pieces. Just a few % damage turns into a hell of a lot more rage if I'm not being stupid.

when people used to say "wow is a bad game"
..yeah sure.. thats why so many people play it and its so fun and polished and streamlined ect...

It didn't occur to me when I was younger that it could have been made / financed by lunatic psychopaths and the game dev team had almost nothing to do with any of the elf rape.

get yourself one of those meme mice so you don't have to take your hand off your junk except to type

Alliance Warlock
>has to deal with WotF (more than 50% of Horde are undead) which breaks Fear and Seduce and grants immunity to them
>have to deal with Shamans, literally the caster-killer class with tremor totem, ranged interrupts on a long-cool down, and purge

Horde Warlock
>gets WotF or stun resist (both OP as fuck)
>has to fight less Warlocks since proportionally few Warlocks are rolled on Alliance
>gets to fight Paladins, a class with no gap closers, from range

yeah, real good design there

name a better item

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muh 1v1's if ur class is "shit" just combo with someone

alts are just for fun
even the shittiest classes can push 50g/h, and if you're fucking fast at leveling you'll get an alt to 60 in 6 days /played during which you could've just farmed over 7k gold on your main

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>Imp dps is garbage
It's fucking 200 a pop at 60.

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Yeah pure dps and pure tank are probably really niche. Feral isn't that popular, and for only really minimal sacrifices you can become soo much better at the other role. But it does happen, that a raid wants/accept their friend druid as a pure melee dps or main tank.

If you're playing that much no reason you can't play all three and just see what one is most fun for you.

*Ahem*

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lol no just make an alt

*clears throat*

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>not having hundreds of dollars in blizzard balance by playing the ah 5 minutes a day

Okay, but Alliance has Paladins so there will be more distributed raid gear on Alliance than Horde.

100g

Paladins are annoying. You can toss corruption on everyone and shoot instant shadowbolts out of your ass if you're ally since only priests dispel and they've better things to do. It's not that big a difference outside of wpvp

luffa

I could solo most of Scholomance in Tier 1 gear as a fucking rouge, fuck off retard.

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Sneaking past everything is not the same as soloing it

>rouge

It's like I'm already back in the barrens

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Retail heroics have more and more punishing mechanics than vanilla raids

Have you seen the youtube video about all the differences between private servers and classic?

Classic will probably be much more difficult because a lot of the values on private servers were just made up like resistances and proc chance.

what the
how the fuck does AV normally work then?

I remember having an absolute blast in wpvp with prenerf version of this that didn't have cooldown timer, three rogues jump on my shaman and just proc shield for me non-stop, hilariously broken, but fun none less.

Easy, they just combine both retail and classic subnumbers in a general "WoW subscriber number" group.

This is you.

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No I mean killing shit, especially the trash room down the first stairs with trash necromancers summoning trash skellies.
Best thing about it was making gearlets shit themselves by pulling the whole room.

*drops*

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youtube.com/watch?v=_8mpnN2fVYQ

>Fucking Tree Nigger gets it

if classic is like this, my game won't be playing classic but working as hard as possible to shitpost so this project fails

Is leveling priest that bad? It was my first class back in bc, but I'm afraid retail has spoiled me and I won't be able to wand for hours again.

unimaginably boring, but quite fast

is it that time again
youtube.com/watch?v=Qas9vDLW__c

dot, wand watch something on 2nd monitor

ain't even got lord benedict's key nigga

accurate trips post

Warkeks would mean warriors, you dumb cuck. Warlocks were locks. So maybe lockeks could work.

This concludes your lesson for the day.

Vanillafags, what's the name of the addon that displays every mob in combat in a little window so you can easily cycle through them? I've been looking for it and it drives me crazy

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if classic has success they will implement classic features in retail.

Druid, Shaman, Warlock, Priest = All based
Paladin = legitimate faggots
Hunter = Autismals
Mage = literal insectoids incapable of completing a single quest. Brainpower only capable of grinding mobs.
Warrior = Doesn't matter what kinda gas you put in it, it's gonna run like ass
Rogue = invisible faggot

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*ahem*

youtube.com/watch?v=xeUhSjuhQYE

Vanilla raiding isn't actually hard, this is a meme.
It's basically LFR level difficulty, especially MC- anyone who actually played and raided in vanilla can back me up on this. The hardest thing about vanilla raiding was actually getting 40 pepegas together who could push buttons.
It was a different time, so peoples perception of difficulty is skewed by this.
But yeah, most people who play this game are playing it for their barbie dress up roleplaying simulator/mount collection and this is still true in current retail.

>2007
aaaaaAAAAAAA

STOP obsessing over a meter folks
it is NOT the end all be all

>pepegas

Don't ever listen to anything tips out says, he knows nothing about the game
There are a lot of things he brings up where he points out that "private servers are easier because X" but he doesn't know these things at all, he just says it because he knows that's what people want to hear
If you buy into his shit then you are an NPC literally
Claiming to know the actual procrate of ironfoe is hilarious, it's like he is the most knowledgeable person about vanilla wow despite not even knowing what ignite is and claiming mages does top dps in naxx because top 100 parses
He's a complete idiot but it works for him because he says what you guys want him to say so you can feel good about vanilla wow

You'll find that people obsessed with that shit are the same shitters who will join a normal pug of a raid with heroic gear and brag about being big dick DPS. When in reality their parses are shit and they can't get into mythic raiding guilds because they're bads.

zoomers dont care about wow, they play fortnite, lol and minecraft. wow is a 30yo boomer game.

they'll probably make it WoW 2.0 and do another alternate universe by releasing completely different expansions to it. Wouldn't be all that bad, but not like I'm going to play this or retail anyways ever again

>Obviously won't happen.
It will. OSRS btfo’s retail and so will this.

No, I was just pointing out that user mentioned meters out of absolutely nowhere preaching to no-one.

druid main spotted

warlocks and SP buddies 4 lyfe

let us bundle ourselves together to form a mighty faggot

>it's "level-to-50-and-get-bored-to-death" episode again

>Level to 55
>THEN take a week off work to level the last and hardest part to 60

>recycles the same “vanilla wasn’t hard” bullshit spouted by every WOTLKfag

Don’t speak it if you didn’t play it

Paladin, Druid, Shaman and Hunter - based classes for pro
Mage - portal bitch
Warlock - brainlet class
Warrior - small dick, 0 damage
Rogue - scrubs who ambush people with 10% hp under mobs and still manage to die
whatever is the 9th class I forgot cos its so boring

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Spotted the guy who got his debuffs cleansed and mercilessly kited.

It wasn't, and I did. But, here's your (You).
The only hard part was actually having the time to sit there and grind and find a guild that would let you raid with them. Time spent =/= difficult. This is the same elitist meme shit attitude that people have had forever, but what it really boils down to is people needing to justify their neckbeard existence thinking that 'hardcore' raiding is anything more than a bunch of shut-in nerds sitting in their parents basements playing this loot collecting skinners box with orcs and elves 18 hours a day.
Take off the rose tinted glasses, most of the raids were spent either spamming one ability or auto-attacking the boss for 20 minutes.

Mechanically vanilla was easy tho

same thing that happened to oldschool runescape. It won't be oldschool anymore because people are bored of the shit they already did a billion times back in the day, and once or twice in modern times. They update it, probably with things that already exist, then they add in microtransactions (wow tokens), and other shit that ruins the game until it's just a joke, or it's some entirely new abomination, again like oldschool runescape.

He probably beat vanilla content with his broken wrath skills and think its easy.

My pets feast on the flesh of the living and graze on the grass nourished by the dead.
It's like fucking pottery.

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>find out about private servers
>abstain since many of them will be shut down once Classic is out
>all this talk of Blizz ruining classic

Did I fuck up?

No.
Pservers are 80% chinks and slavs.

>World of Warcraft has the following minimum requirements:
>Intel Pentium III 800 MHz or AMD Athlon 800 MHz processor.
>512 megabytes or more of RAM.
>32MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as an NVIDIA GeForce 2 class card or above.
It can never be the same...

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It is the same, for the servers at least

The delusions of Classic fans is utterly hilarious.

just got a beat invite
they offered me a 400 dollar refund because they overcharged my beta account so i got a gift card and they cleaned my pc. apparently had a lot of hackers hiding in my firewall. check your email guys

dumb vanillafag

One dude in our guild had 256mb ram back in 2004, he was stuck on infinite loading screen on zeppelin ride because it took him longer to load in to the game than for his character standing on zeppelin to travel again, resolved only be letting someone with better pc to log on his account to move him, it sure won't be same again..

Please tell me respawns will be shorter when classic comes out. Northdale is the first time I've ever leveled with more than 10 people in the zone and it's a fucking nightmare.
Killing quests? Sure, no problem, just invite other people.
Meanwhile
>Drop quests
>Specific enemy quests
>Gathering quests
Every zone is just a wasteland of corpses that take too long to respawn.

based activision recommissioning the old blades for pennies on the dollar

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Just do dungeons

sharding
>you think you don't, but you do

Sharding allows for much more people than what I've seen in Northdale to be around you

but that's opposite of true, dude

>took him longer to load in to the game than for his character standing on zeppelin to travel again

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Have you even seen the demo? You can still be overwhealmed with people. I'm already complaining about having 5 dudes around me killing all 3 quest mobs with 5 minute respawn timers

Imagine typing out posts like this because you suck at a vidya gaem.

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blizzard servers lag for +3 seconds with even 40v40. sharding does not alleviate server lag, the point of it is to partition server loads to distribute between servers evenly, so they can utilize all of their hardware with the cloud. it's a cost savings solution.
what you said is
>Sharding allows for much more people than what I've seen in Northdale to be around you
which is the opposite of true, dude.

Horde or alliance?
Decided on playing warlock and will either go orc or gnome (actually think gnomes look good geared out). Horde seems cool, but I just can’t stand all the “muh honor” bs from shits living in mud huts. Warlocks are less populated on alliance too and I would get to have a dwarf alt (warrior or paladin) which is one of my favorite races. Always thought I’d roll horde, but leaning more and more on ally now.

BETA WHEEEEENNNNN
RASASGHHGHHG

do you prefer ironforge and stormwind or org and uc? personally, uc is home. i could appreciate setting a hearth in sw though

Played ally lock on a pvp server shows everyone you got a huge dick

>but I just can’t stand all the “muh honor” bs
Fuck you that is the best part about the Orcs.

>stealth sounds
>dying raptors in the distance
>cheap shot
>dying gnomes sounds

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>game have a f2p business model
>you have to pay a monthly subscription
the absolute state of blizzcucks

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Yes ally locks get brutally ass raped in pvp before death coil and soul link

It's part of the charm

Just dance on the mailbox for your token money, no need for $.

>Make players play your game in exchange for a license to play your game for 1 more month
>Whilst selling gold to players in exchange for RL money, perpetuating the scheme
Clever Blizz.....

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yep, when gnome locks reach 60 they universally require surgery for asshole reconstruction. it's very sad, and also expensive. it's on purpose to balance the cheaper epic mount costs

>spending most of your time at the auction house doing chores to pay your subscription
i'd rather play a fun game instead

>REEEE BLIZZJEWS REEEE

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What I mean is, even with sharding you'll see a lot more people than what you see while leveling in northdale

Spotted the orc nigger.

>i'd rather play a fun game instead
name one, i'm dying to play something fun in the last few years.

just forget bout the imp mate.. buy blood pact for dungeons and improve some of your vw's skills. learn to juggle mobs with vw in affli specc. doing that you have a class that is 2nd fastest at lvling efficiently. hunter is the 1st.

i've seen like 5 classic servers launched, and another 5 or 6 private servers. with sharding, you'll see fewer people. think about elwynn with 700 retards. the question about sharding is- will it drop off after level 17 zones? or will they keep it in place into the 23+ zones

They are going to somehow ruin it, artificially if necessary, because they simply have to. They need to be able to go "TOLD YA SO, YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY WANT TO PLAY IT" after they have done all in their power to drive away the playerbase back to retail. Their reputation would be ruined if Classic actually became popular for an extended period of time.

Hollow Knight
Cuphead
MHW
Titanfall 2
Forza Horizon 4

>elwynn with 700 retards
H E A L T H Y
P O P U L A T I O N

If they're smart and we still expect somewhat realistic behaviour from a big dev like them, they'll take some lessons from classic compared to retail when designing a new mmo.
Wow2, world of diablo, starcraft online, world of overwatch or whatever.

i'm leaning more towards the servers are going to shit themselves and they are struggling to write in a different set of solutions for their cloud distributions, is why we get like one skimpy facebook post for info per 2 weeks, and no real release date 2 years into a project.

MC 15-20 peps
Ony 10-15.

Thats the minimum my guild could do it before we started raiding Naxx. Tho we raided Naxx before AQ since War Effort / AQ Doors were still closed when we were raiding Spider wing in Bwl-ish gear.

>new mmo
MMO genre in dying bruh.
FOTM battleroyales are the thing now.

if you reference twitch. none of my favorite games are popular on twitch

>nigger lips

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wtf have twitch do do with anything?
Wow is on life-support, FF and TESO too, EvE is extremely niche and everything else is fucking dead.

>wolf spawns
>barely opens eyes
>struggles to walk, legs wiggling
>weak whimpers, looking for mother wolf
HEROIC STRIKE
TAGGED BY 30 ROGUES
SKINNED IN .02 SECONDS

>FF and ESO getting an expansion
probably another wow expansion will be announced at blizzcon
mmo's have been 'dying' longer than youve been alive user

Warlock hits 60 and wants to raid, his gear is shit, but he still wants to do some mad DPS and impress guild mom; what spec do?

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what's wrong with this?

Affliction is the only spec you can do until BWL

OY VEY BUY MUH DIVERSITY OR ITS ANUDDAH SHOA

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Most of them won't make it to 60. They'll get burnt out in the 30s once they start getting rekt by mages and hunters in STV.

This always made me sad. I remember getting both of those on my rogue but fist weapon spec was so fucking bad compared to sword spec. Like the proc couldn't even out DPS the sword spec procs.

B-but Drakedog..!

Who cares if it's 5% less dps, you get it for the cool effect.

He wasn't a raider

Jokes on you I'm trolling a Troll warnigger on a PvE realm

I was thinking on recording a walkthrough of my troll rogue when I level it, would that be boring, should I commentate as well or just pure gameplay? never played the game before but I wanna record my first experience.

Classic question...
What classes/builds let me oneshot or nearly oneshot in wpvp?
I don't care if it's a long wait time between.

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>Who cares if it's 5% less dps
Try like 20%~. Sword spec for warriors and rogues was always OP as fuck.

There's no way in hell sword spec deals 20% more dps. You get a 5% chance for an extra white hit.

Idk about oneshot, but I gonna be running 3 minute mage. You fuckers better have real high reisistance and not be lower level than me .

right has always been the most based human face

Imagine getting mad whenever you see a sentence

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EVERY hybrid spec is good in raids
don't listen to speedrun faggots

>sub 200dps ret dps compared to warrior or rogue 600+ easy
>good

Warriors, Paladin, Shaman, Mage, Warlock, and Priest can "one shot" granted Priests will take awhile to actually kill you but all you need is one cast. Some require luck beyond luck, and most require gear.

The ideal raid group is 32 warriors and 8 shaman desu

Which class is the cunnybro of wow

stop giving wrong advice retard

>Comparing rogues with paladins
>paladins have auras, blessings, judgements, heals, immortality.
>rogues have pocket lint.

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RIP in peace Mankrik's wife, always in our hearts, never forgotten QQ

rogues ROFL, only fury warriors and mages are viable DPS

These are all correct in some way shape or form. Its just why would you want to play a reckoning paladin because its a stupid retarded one trick pony that has less use than anything else ever?

I haven't taken a shower in two weeks I just enjoy smelling my own balls too much to start over. Yeah I'ma druchad

I really don't want TBC, it introduced too many bad ideas

Just adding onto level 60 content will be much better

You already get all those things from an actual useful paladin thats holy, no need to take a useless ret for those buffs.

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he isn't useless if he supplies 100 good things in addition to dealing damage. i am just in awe at your stupidity right now my dear friend.

Is Mankrik dare I say a "cuck"?

It's honestly true OSRS's new content is just a worse version of RS3, but no one wanted EOC or pay2win MTX, so OSRS is much preferable

I would love Blizzard to poll new content for Vanilla, even TBC content without flying, arena & maybe no blood elves/draenei would be pretty great, but i worry the WoW community is just too stupid & will vote to ruin the game again, the Runescape community is a little bit more intelligent when it comes to what design decisions will hurt the game & vote accordingly

He is useless because those buffs are already provided by other paladins in the raid, a ret is just taking up a damage spot someone could do better.

So by your logic each raid should have only 1 healer. Why bring more? Our priest already supplies heals. You are so dumb. Utterly dumb.basedhead niggerslave npc faggot

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kara, cot, dark portal raid (just hellfire shitadel) and hyjal

>40 man raids
God it's already a pain to organize 20 people with a halfway decent skill level on a consistent basis.

>have to deal with Shamans, literally the caster-killer class with tremor totem, ranged interrupts on a long-cool down, and purge
You forgot how grounding totem used to eat all dots and would only "die" from direct damage spells

In end game Naxx Sword Spec for Rogues was a 300~ DPS increase over any other spec. Even the Seal Fate spec which allowed you to spam finishers.

the fuck you talking? just go DS/Ruin mate. Afterwards SM/Ruin

except most retail casuals just play LFR which is far easier than getting 40 ppl together for MC

help

>*short cool down

1 ret paladin is good, it boosts your prot paladins threat

Reck paladins are a meme and they're not an one-shot spec, it depended on building up reck stacks. Good luck reckbombing a ranged class. Now, paladins could one-shot people, but only with retardedly lucky SoC crits in the same vein shamans could one-shot people by getting windfury proc off windfury x4. Out of the classes you mentioned, the only one that could reliably one shot people (no super lucky RNG crits) would be properly specced and geared ZHC+PoM+pyro mages. And maybe warlocks, I have no idea what warlocks even did in vanilla since I only remember running into a couple of them in BGs and all they did was dot people and run away. No one played them on my server back in the day.

What do you need more than 4-5 paladins for you fucking retard?

Your heals are shit, your damage is shit, your buffs are covered.

Warlock dps in mc/bwl will always be low, casters suffer in those instances, but they will do very well in aq40/naxx
Go SM/Ruin or DS/Ruin, that's the two builds that exist in pve

>players got banned for this

oof

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As Alliance you don't have to deal with paladins cleansing your debuffs, and I feel like alliance priests focus more on support than damage, so they will be removing debuffs as well. You also have less competition for gear. Gnome lock is also slippery with escape artist.

Then there's the fact that Alliance generally have shorter PvP queues, so you could gear up faster. Human offers an advantage here if you want to get your BG reputation gear as fast as possible.

Mage with pom/pyro spec aka 3minute mage
Or rogues I guess with stunlock if that counts as a oneshot
It wasn't the spec that was bad, it's that thekal's grasp is attack speed 2.20, which sucks major balls considering sinister strike is based on weapon damage
Difference between sword and fist weapon spec is >1% dmg unless you play human

haha guys classic summer soon, haha right around the corner right?
>nervous haha
>nervous lmao

actually from all the numbers we've gathered from classic beta it looks like pserver armor and damage values are higher
what this means is classic mobs are going to take more and do less damage than what we've been playing with for the past 15 years

Has there been any word on what the pop per server is gonna be?
I'm worried they might go with something "blizzlike" like 3k. Low level dungeons are gonna be dead as fuck if they do.

Combat daggers isn't a 300dps loss, it's basically the same damage as combat swords
Seal fate is a pvp spec, obviously it's a dps loss compared to pve spec

>your buffs are covered.
>by other paladins
>that's why paladins are bad
>unless they are holy
>but paladin heals are shit though
>so you should bring 5 paladins.

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>Human offers an advantage here if you want to get your BG reputation gear as fast as possible.

The problem with human diplomacy is that sooner or later you'll be maxed, but escape artist will still remain useful. Maybe good for an alt, but not for your main character.

zoom zoom

you are aware shamans have a spell called Purge?

shorter pvp queues stem from lower pop = harder to farm the map

Huh?

20 iq nigger

Were talking about damage and how rets are shit and not worth a slot
You post bullshit like
>Lol compare rogue to pala but look at this utility they bring
>Meanwhile the "utility" rets bring are already covered by the 4-5 other Holy Paladins in the raid and any "utility" you could bring as Ret is already covered and done better by another holy paladin or in this cause another class if we are talking damage

Orc warlocks don't care about honor, they only care about power. That's why other orcs hate them.

>Difference between sword and fist weapon spec is >1% dmg unless you play human
t. never raided on a rogue

Sword spec was the way to go and increased your DPS massively because as Alliance you would use Instant Poison on each weapon and Horde would use WF/Instant because deadly poison was a wasted debuff slot. Therefore the extra procs from sword spec would cause a lot more damage due to that. There is no spec that can outperform sword spec, there is a reason Blizzard finally removed it before Cata started, because it was too good and rogues we're always sword spec for PvE.

Paladins are amazing healers are you retarded? With enough crit you can spam flash of light nearly indefinitely. No other healer is as efficient. Paladins are the best tank healers. Priests are more well rounded healers.

I'm implying you're a zoomer for wanting nostlike pop

Oh.
I don't care.

I didnt call Holy Paladins shit, I was talking about Ret paladin healing as a "utility"

who makes this pictures? this is the funniest one yet

Leave him. He's only pretending to be retarded.

>shorter pvp queues stem from lower pop = harder to farm the map
Horde players are traditionally far more PvP minded so even if a server has a perfect 50:50 ratio Horde will still have longer queues

I am aware, are you? You can't purge friendly players, you only remove buffs from enemies.

Kek

No. If we presume as you do) that there are already 5 holy paladins in the raid group, they will cover the static blessings, and maybe judgements (probably not most of the time because they will be busy healing), but having more heals, auras and additional blessings of protection is always useful.

Yes the whole point of my argument is that a DPS paladin can also do all these useful things, while doing damage (obviously not as much damage as a pure damage class). Your whole argument is that "Paladins should spec holy because it guud" which is pic related.

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