Representation in games

I never understood the desire to "identify with the main character" in video games. In movies and books this makes sense because its just an arbitrary collection of images of people doing things, that is until you have a protagonist who's exploits you can latch onto. But in a video game, by sheer virtue of controlling an object on screen, you are instantly experience transference. That is, you implant your sense of self and identity onto an outside object. Its actually a really good survival tactic that lets us make use of weapons and vehicles, but is the key thing that makes video games fun. And the strangest thing of all is that you don't even need to transfer onto an object. In the game Tetris, despite the fact you manipulate the blocks, no one identifies as the blocks. Its just you, the player, trying to make the game happen. The main topic I want to adress though is the idea that the protagonist of character based games (that is, anything from DMC to Warcraft, to the Last of Us) HAS to look like or otherwise relate to the player in some way. Utter horse shit. Videogames have this magical property of letting us identify AS characters, not just with. I would honestly prefer if I never saw a human being in a video game ever again, and we just played as machines or weird alien type things. It really doesn't fucking matter. I don't play video games to satisfy my sense of self, I play them because as a human, I find that action/reaction feedback loops stimulating. Thats literally all it is. One of my favorite protagonists is Samus, a fearless woman who is part alien and isolates herself from society. Am I that? No. Do I even want to be that? Not really. But I dot want to be Samus insofar as blasting the shit out of aliens and platforming like a crack head.

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Congraz, OP.
You just realized that you're NOT an insecure, oversensitive, narcissistic snowflake. AKA, an SJW.

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>using SJW unironically
just because someone is better than you doesn't mean they're narcissistic.

>representation
who or which group is most likely to use this word?

if you've ever complained about skimpy gay dudes in your vidya game, you're no different than them

People of color
Gay people
Transgender people
Disabled people
Fat people

there are all kinds of people out there besides lankey white people but you've only lived in one shallow reality.

I am pretty sure SJW was self-coined at first, like incel unfortunately

>Fat people
nice insult, they are called plus sized, fucking nazi

I know you're trying to be funny with this but
a.) No adult is that reactionary unless there's trauma that was triggered from a statement
b.) Plus sized is actually more offensive because it implies there's a size standard.

Literally just white people.
Seriously when have you ever seen asians/latin americans/africans (from actual africa) ask for representation?

Fat is rude, just saying

>non-white people in Africa
>asking for representation
>even tho the majority of Africa is non-white

People on Yea Forums are very stupid

people who don't play video games

The problem isn't representation, on it's own representation is harmless. So far all we know is people feel a little better and display positive attitudes for a short time when they feel they are able to identify with the character, usually based around gender/race etc. If devs made a game with a fat, black, crippled dyke as a main character then that's their prerogative and more power too them I hope it's a fun game.

The problem is the people who knock everyone else over the head about it. These retards pissing and moaning about representation are acting like 1. it's a finite resource so if they don't get it now then they'll never get it and 2. the "other people" are a default so it's ok for them to be bolstered at the detriment of the "others". Like they demand reality be changed to fit their worldview as opposed to helping foster whatever change they believe should happen either through their own hard work or influence. How many times do we see these retarded twitter meltdowns over a character maybe not being a cock lord, canonically drowning in cum? It's indicative of the inability to recognize that other people have lives and experiences outside of their reality. They can't fathom why a game doesn't develop a game specifically pandering to their political and social views, because they can't fathom the idea that anyone else could come to any other conclusion about the world.

It's also a gross hijacking of a consumer base to scream and shit your pants as a vocal minority to force a change on the majority.

tl;dr Representation is fine, it's the hyper politicized and idealistic retards who are bad. Pic related.

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I don't think you want to understand what's really behind all of this but in the off chance you might be interested you can start by watching this video I guess. youtube.com/watch?v=rB8dxgFI0vg

You are extremely ignorant, user. At least google before posting

being able to identify for people are are nothing like you is a white man thing

niggers and women can't do it

Have you at least heard of Bruce Lee?

don't know how you would use it ironically

Is this another thread where OP uselessly tries to bump it pretending to be someone else in order to stay relevant?
This was a poor thread concept. Let it die.

I guess I'm saying is that I don't know how you get that way. The BFV director or whoever said some fake shit like his daughter complaining "why doesnt the main character look like me." That phrasing is what gives it away. "Character that looks like me." Not a single person who was playing a fun videgame ever gave a shit about what the MC looked like in relation to themselves. If you're having fun, youre having fun, its not like you see a man's beard on the MC and think "fuck this game I hate it." I'm not white, and I love a shit ton of games featuring white protagonists. I don't suddenly like a game more just because they look more like my ethnicity, in fact I'm more inclined to be critical of this pandering trash.

Please don't say the N slur it is extremely offensive to black people or African people of color. I have reported your post

I know you're a nazi pretending to be a liberal.

I'm playing as a dark elf in Daggerfall right now. I don't relate to him too much, but it's fun breaking into armories and selling them back their stolen merchandise.

stfu nigga

this is all autistic bullshit. the real bottom line is that white people have no obligation to represent non-white people in their own creative productions.

>fat people need their own special representation
are you brain damaged lmao. also it's not the job of normal white people to represent these 2-3% minorities of weirdos. if they want "representation" they can create their own studios and their own original IPs.

>No adult is that reactionary unless there's trauma that was triggered from a statement
best start believin' in shitposting threads, user. yer in one.

video games are fun

Most of these arguments are just made up arguments from game journalists and twitter faggots that they just -expect- you to fucking follow and accept. Most of these arguments fall apart if you don't pretend they have a leg to stand on.
>I play games to FEEL awesome/badass/cool
People play video games to have fun. Self inserting in everything is fucking pathetic.
>Identify with the character.
I don't identify with a fucking lombax from a completely different galaxy but I still like Ratchet.

Its basically just excuses to make an argument that isn't there.

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Why does Yea Forums go berserk if a protagonist is non white?

Sjws are fucking cancer like you. Kill yourself tranny.

Yea Forums goes berserk when formerly organic franchises built from the ground up by passionate developers are infested by twittermarxists and subverted with identity politics.

If God of War became based on Chinese/Indian/South American gods, I think Yea Forums would be hyped as fuck. Egyptian god of war would be pretty based too. Even the norse god of war would have been good, if it was a different protagonist. None of this gender ethics shit matters whatsoever, if the game is fun.

OP must be a laid off waypoint writer lol.

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