Smash DLC

Yes and? Pretty sure Erdrick can't shoot kamehameha waves, use spirit balls, float ad teleport and go super saiyan. What is this supposed to mean?

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>doyle
This is new to me. Is this real? What happened to "Jane" anyway?

He's not from Fire Emblem

I refuse to believe actual DQ fans are participating in the smash autism

Actual DQ fans want Slime or Madason.

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we could have just had the actual goku

obsessed boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/fB3ZTH3qV5YuD30r9X7gyQ/

yeah, it's real
t. smash modder
jane was a bunch of leftover garbage data in a stage's collision file back in 1.0.0, not sure what happened to it afterwards
you're just a dumb as the people saying brave is a lock for erdrick

Thank you for not being Sora or a FF character.

Jane was THAT insignificant? Damn I thought it was part of Jack's code.

>Some think it's a Dragon Quest rep
>Some think it's a Minecraft rep
>No one think's it's a DQ Builder rep

How will you "celebrate" Banjo's deconfirmation?
Me? I'll be drinking a 40 trying to mask the anger.

Deconfirmation? And what if it happens but not on E3?

even after all 5 characters are picked and none are microsoft, theyll just be claiming hes a lock for dlc pack 2 (which isnt happening)

Why would it happen anywhere BUT E3?
Lets face it, besides DQboy and Steve he'd be the biggest reveal. If not then, then where?

How should I know? K Rool was the biggest requested and he was in some throwaway direct.

I like that he seems to be depicted with a shield and hope he uses one in Smash. I like magicky sword and shield characters like Paladin classes, and he seems like the closest candidate to fit that bill in Smash. I've never played a Dragon Quest game, though.

>Erdrick

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yeah, although the string that was in there had the ponytail/c06 thing
although the fact that Arsene's Smash design has the miniscule design change that Arsene got in Royal is way more interesting

>K Rool was the biggest requested
No he wasn't, Ridley was. And I'm saying this as someone who wanted K. Rool more than anyone else. K. Rool was 2nd.

>spoiler
Wait what?

>K Rool was second
No he wasn't He was first. And It's because of his popularity in Japan that cemented it. Ridley was a big meme yeah but only in the west. It's close but Rool manages to slide past Ridley.

I guess you're right in the sense of genuine, universal want.
I like you, user. I hope we can see Banjo get in.

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>Arthur & Wright
My nigga

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K. Rool was probably the most requested in the ballot itself thanks to Ridley being a stage hazard when it was ongoing, but Ridley was probably about equal when you account for him being requested everywhere else for years.

This but with the tiers inverted

Nobody cares about your "MY WORD IS LAW GUYS" shit

based
fuck Shitrick

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Brave is also a medeival fantasy movie with bears as a central plot point

There's more ties to Banjo from the word Brave than there's ties to Erdrick, but Erdrickfags will deny this.

i might be wrong but
Basically, in persona 5 both sides of Arsene's collar have like slits cut in his colllar
his art for Royal has the left side of the collar replaced with a row a buttons
his smash design does this too

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>Discordfaggotry
That aside, it's a fair point. I really don't think they'd make a codename that obvious, they clearly learned their lesson after the Ryu leak.

They probably just mirrored the button holes from the other side for the ingame model.

jane is probably leon with a jill valentine skin, and they are using joker as a bse for them because of his gun moves

I have no illwill for Erdrick himself if he gets in but rather by proxy of the other bazillion JPRG swordsmen already in the game that will make him feel incredibly non-special. The Fire Emblem bias has almost singlehandedly made Erdrick an incredibly bland choice for everyone outside of Japan (western hipsters and Melvins who play DQ aren't a significant western crowd at all).

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Banjo’s the same height as Mario?
Is it listed somewhere in some kind of bio? You’d think he’d be taller

>le epic patrician weebshit and obscure picks
You are trying way too hard to impress Yea Forums.

>Bears represent bravery
since when? that was always a lion or wolf thing.
Also height means literally nothing. Judge it by shield stat, making it around the same size as Snake.

Now this may be extreme bullshit, but using this toy set as a scale, they appear to be around the same general height, with Banjo being just a tad taller. Again, I DO NOT THINK THIS IS CONCRETE EVIDENCE, I'M JUST USING IT FOR A REFERENCE.

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>still being retarded enough to believe already disproven leaks
Hope you enjoy sucking the mouse’s cock at Tokyo Disneyland

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in diddy kong racing, banjo is only slightly larger than diddy kong. he probably would be about mario's height or only slightly taller.

>making it around the same size as Snake.
So it's Leon.
He's brave because he goes into hoards of monsters and fights back.
Not mad, I want Leon, so regardless if it's Banjo or Leon, I'm happy.

>Title translates to "the brave"
>"B-Banjo is tied to B-Brave, guys!!!"

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Erdrickfags still don't understand that there is no way in hell that Disney would allow Smash to feature Erdrick and potentially threaten KH's popularity. The mouse will pull every string to ensure that DQ stays out of Smash and out of the spotlight, permanently.

>tfw I'd prefer Sora but I'd still be ok with Erdrick
Honestly I just wanted Joker so either way I feel pretty satisfied

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>Guys, Palutena can't be in, the leak was fake
A fake leak doesn't deconfirm a character. Almost everyone knows the 5ch leak is fake, but Erdrick still is very likely.

I like his cape and shield.

Not a fan of Toriyama's artstyle though.

Joke's on you any DQ character IS my most wanted character.

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Literally what are you saying, they're not even the same company. Nintendo barely has ANYTHING to do with Disney.
Adult-Erdrick would be around Snake's size.

>bazillion other jrpg swordsmen
You only say this because there are three Marth clones. The rest are all fairly unique. You've got:
>Heavy hitter Ike
>Magic user Robin
>Dragon fang Corrin
>Laser sword Shulk
>Cloud
Joker is a thief, not a swordsman

>brainlet can't wrap it around his head that using "brave" for Yuusha would be the most obvious shit even though Jack, Jane and Doyle are a thing

Donald and Goofy are not only characters originating from cartoons, but from WESTERN cartoons.
*teleports behind you*
>ああ、ごめんね。私はあなたがいいやつとして戻ってくることを願っています、そして私たちはいつかスパーすることができる。やあ!
*bursts your universe*

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>Guy said that Banjo is more connected the word Brave than Erdrick
>Says he's retarded
Also
>Packun and Mementoes is incredibly similar to their real names.

>Adult-Erdrick would be around Snake's size.
Why would it be adult Erdrick? Isn't the kid version more iconic?

no. Kidrick was used mainly for promo material in Japan.

he's been my most wanted for years

>Kidrick was used mainly for promo material in Japan
But isn't Japan the main audience for Erdrick, and by extension, Dragon Quest as a whole? They'd want him in first.

It means that the guy doesnt even play videogames.

He just wants to feel important by shitposting or making smash shitpost threads when he could do more important things with his life, like taking a shower, go to a gym or trying to talk to a girl.

Kidrick was used in early promo material in Japan. They have almost exclusively used Adultrick since then, see: re-releases of DQ3, almost ever poster, and him in Battle Road.

It's a meme about Toriyama-same face syndrome
Quit being such a hard ass over a video game character

Oh, well thanks for clearing that up.
I guess evading Erdrick wouldn't be THAT easy.

> Ratchet and Clank
Fuck off, Snoy shit has no place in Smash

Based on every piece of fact we have, it is impossible for Erdrick to be in Smash Bros. Too obscure, too irrelevant, too unpopular, too hated and too unknown. Brave can thus logically only be Banjo or Leon Kennedy, both of which ties perfectly into the datamine stats being a zoner archetype. Erdrick's only chances of being related to Smash Bros is as leakbait, and will never be playable.

piranha plant's codename was packu, when his japanese name is packun flower. That's a pretty fucking obvious codename. brave is not too obvious for erdrick

1. We already knew about Piranha before the game came out.
2. We already knew about Joker before Mementoes was patched into the game. And this one was months in between.

>Too obscure, too irrelevant, too unpopular, too hated and too unknown.
Look buddy, that doesn't matter. See every single FE character in Smash. I don't know if you're false flagging or not, because this feels genuine.

Doyle.... DOYLE!?

Ok! Thats enough, i still dont believe jane is real, someone could easily have edited that github datamine thing to add Jane.

And NOW it turns out theres a DOYLE?

Get it thru your fucking heads leakfags/Insiderfags: JACK STANDS FOR JACK FROST! THERES NO JANE, THE PONYTAIL THING IS AN EDIT, KASUMI IS NOT FEMJOKER AND CERTAINLY THERES NO WAY SAKURAI WOULD USE SOMETHING SO STUPID AS 'DOYLE' FOR A CODENAME!

Sorry Erdrick, we already secured Sora to be in Smash, you can always visit Tokyo Disneyland instead.

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>snoy shit has no place in sm
Cloud
Snake
Joker
Richter
Gayonetta

Sooner or later it's going to be PSABR vs Smash and you're going to like it.

Nice.
Pic related will take another 3rd party newcomer's slot because Nintendo wants their characters in the fighters pass and early advert for Metroid prime 4.

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i have that exact banjo figure sitting on my bedside table

Reminder

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>Gayonetta
Literally co-owned by Nintendo. I don't agree with the "NO GAYSTATION IN MUH SMASH" but you're being a bit over zealous.

Firstpartyfags are the worst.
We already have too many fucking first party characters in Smash Bros, and STILL you want more?

I know about that, but theres no reason for making over 20 threads a day about why Erdrick (AND ONLY ERDRICK) Is a good or a bad idea and why Ben Vergas is AUR NIU LOHD AND SEIVIAH!

No one knows who the next DLC Will be and anyone complaining about the DQ heroes (not just erdrick) deserves to be raped and hanged on the streets for not knowing shit about gaming history, which is THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF SMASH!

Purely hypothetically, how would Yea Forums react if this happened again but with Banjo?

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jane is real and doyle is the codename for arsene because arthur conan doyle wrote sherlock holmes (a character similar to arsene lupin)

I'm certain Loto can do all those things except Spirit Bomb. And it's bomb you noob.

>there are too many Nintendo characters in this Nintendo game

Doyle is what they use for Arsene. Jane was leftover data that no doubt existed before but was either saved for later or patched over and cut. Now we have a sample size to say for certain that yes, they are more than likely using codenames.
If Sakurai wanted Jack Frost then he'd be a spirit at least. Turns out he doesn't even like SMT because there's fuck all SMT anywhere in DLC Pack 1. Go figure.

False equivalence. Palutena was likely because Sakurai made Uprising.
People only backed Cuckrick because of 5ch and Vergeben. Both were proven wrong. He was deconfirmed. Cope, cope, aaaand cope.

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>tfw realizing that Sylux could easily have a Spirit Board as Metroid Prime spirit content is relatively barren
We don't even have a Rundas spirit.

Nah fuck Gayonetta. Fuck Donte too. I hate hack n slash shit. It's boring.
This isn't even smash related anymore just fuck the genre altogether.

>Sissel
BASED

but there is
gist.github.com/Dr-HyperCake/57925bbfe64ed5d4391655295983160c#file-dump-txt-L24189-L24224

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>anyone complaining about the DQ heroes (not just erdrick) deserves to be raped and hanged on the streets for not knowing shit about gaming history,
You alright there, bud?

DQfags are demented psychopaths in general, as has been repeatedly proven by Erdrickfags.

I do not care about your feelings on this matter.

He's an Erdrincel. Of course not.

False, no one ever cared for the 5ch leak and vergeben has nothing to do with Erdrick.
It was tansut who leaked him first and because of his leak people gave attention to the 5ch leak.

What if he IS my most wanted character

>believing Tansut, when he's a known liar just like Vergeben

Ok, ill give sakurai the benefit of a doubt and say that Doyle is Arsene's data.

But still that doesnt explain Jane, i for one have never, EVER heard of Jane before the 1st P5R trailer that shows Kasumi for the first time.

The Jane rumours appeared only AFTER that trailer, the datamine was shown on github right? Whos to say the fucker deleted the original file or uploaded a file with the Jane data?

Sorry but no, Jane is FAKE!

joker is probably being used as a base for leon, and the jane ponytail is for leon's jill valentine skin. leon is not Brave.

jack, joker. jane, jill. the names are alliterations. brave is banjo. banjo and leon are next.

>Jane is FAKE!
leftovers from the 1.0.0 patch

Yikes

Show me where he was wrong

nah show us where he was right brah

Tansut only posted about a DQ character after the 5ch leak gained traction. Cope.

Your game sucks Kamiya.

>inb4 erdrickfags still thinks that he predicted cloud when he was playing his luke skywalker prediction safely as a joke prediction so he could claim to be a real leaker

>historical revisionism
I honestly don't understand why you are seething this hard. Doesn't it get tiresome?

Fact is, Tansut is a fake.

also keep in mind that this was like a month before fucking episode 7 came out.

Where's the proof that it was revised? Stop shitposting apost actual things we can look at.

>Ok, ill give sakurai the benefit of a doubt and say that Doyle is Arsene's data.
you know you can just dump your copy of smash and see for yourself that arsene's model folder is literally called doyle right

can you post pic please

His first DQ post literally said "looks like the recent rumors are true" in response to the 5ch leak. Cope harder Dragon Queer.

Whatever, man. I don't understand why you hate Erdrick this much but if it's fun to you to seethe your head off and be constantly wrong then go ahead.
Tell me to cope more, that seems to be the only enjoyment you find here.

This
Why have a Goku rip off generic anime swordfighter instead of just actual Goku?

>proven wrong
>whatever man, s-seethe harder
OH NO NO NO NO NO

meant for

I pray that Dragon Quest XI sells less than 100,000 copies on the Switch so that Square Enix never ports any Dragon Quest to the west ever again.
Death to Dragon Quest.

They can sell gang busters by literally making it integrated into DBZ and just making it a DBZRPG

seething

Don't worry. Everyone who wanted to play that shit game already did on PS4 or PC. Not even the Japs can save it lmao.

Fuck Dragon Quest, it's a queer game for queers.

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Seethe harder

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>dragon quest invented blue guys with swords
erdrincels are getting desperate kek
i bet you think links botw outfit is a dragon quest reference too

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What exactly did I say that would warrant me to be "seething?" I said how they could sell more, you brainlet.

Banjofags are just settling themselves up for inevitable disappointment

Madason as a full monster summoner/support role would be the best Dragon Quest rep. Prove me wrong.

Hell, Shonen Jump most likely don't even know that Erdrick exists. Luffy wearing something vaguely similar is just a coincidence.

It literally is a reference though...

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See

meant for

Think about it though
>Trailer starts with an extreme close up on his face
>Every normalfag in the world collectively freaks out over Goku
>Zoom out to reveal Erdrick
It would be beautiful.

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That's not Erdrick. That's Dai, the character who every insider confused for Erdrick.

>It's Dai
Yes, a character from a manga that Shonen published, they'd know the most popular protagonist from the series.
Cope.

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Also, how in the fuck would insiders confuse Dai for Erdrick, retard.
Not the same game, Squenix is not involved, and not the same time. It's not even the same style or for the same system.

That doesn't matter, we know for a fact that the insiders had misunderstood information that led them to conclude that Dai in Jump Force is Erdrick in Smash Bros. Tansut, Vergeben, and the rest of the insiders, they all confused Dai for Erdrick.

see
And how do we "know for a fact"
Anti-Erdrick fags are retarded.

Namco developed both Smash Bros and Jump Force. All it take is for a Namco employee with contact to insiders to see Dai, confuse him for Erdrick and conclude that Erdrick is in Smash Bros, and "Erdrick in smash" leaks happens as the result of misunderstood information.

Why do people hae Dragon Quest of all the sudden? Is it because of Erdrick and Smash?

If so, imagine actually hating an entire franchise just because of some rosterfags on the internet, that's sad.

Explain the 7 Square reps then, retard. If it was "one guy" then why was Erdrick the most repeated name? This is also assuming no insider has contacts within Square Enix.

Because insiders confused Dai in Jump Force for Erdrick in Smash Bros. Insiders are known to be a stupid, 1 digit IQ bunch of brainlets, so they're that retarded enough to mix up the two.

Yes, these "people" are really that sad. The rosterfags on this site are the most delusional and entitled fuckwits I have ever seen.

>No answer for a constructed response
>"A-All insiders are retards!!"
Is school out for you, already?

The 7 Squares was just another one of Vergeben's lies that everyone piggybacked off of.

Luffy's shield is a modified version of Erdrick's shield. It's pretty clearly a reference.

Play Jump Force, weeb faggot

>Xenother also said 7 Square reps
cope harder
>ignores the fact that if one insider has contact within Square it btfos this theory

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>ro boy, anotha RPG swodefighta for Smashu

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ohnonononononononononono

Yeah, and the Hylian shield is just a modified version of Erdrick's shield.

>Geno in trash
Based as fuck

>he thinks virginbitch knows shit about smash development
Reminder that he screeched loudly with 100% confidence that K. Rool is not in Smash Bros.

your image perfectly represents the main demographic of the Erdrick audience on Yea Forums, shitposters who see the Toriyama art and automatically latch onto it.

If Nintendo chose the DLC by popularity polls, we wouldn't have had Joker

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He didn't though. He said that there wasn't a DK rep in DMs. That's not screeching. If he was confident, he would've posted it.

Closer to a Link reference than an Erdrick reference, really.

Joker didn't exist when the ballot came out

>This person was bluffing and got lucky because I said so

>Same style of shield, sword, and clothing with a cape
>Same series is being published on Shonen Jump at the same time
>"N-Not a r-reference!!!"

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Wrong.

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Thoughts on this lineup?

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Are you seriously that petty for rosterfagging?

Rosterfags think Smash Bros is the most important franchise in the universe and that it's the end-all be-all of video games. They care more about representation in a fighting game than they do about said fighting game or the games being represented, and will hate any video game that has a chance to be in if they don't like it (i.e. the other rosterfags have told them not to like it, since they have no knowledge of gaming outside of Smash's bubble)

I can totally see Sakurai doing something like that in the same fashion as he did with DDD in the K. Rool trailer

Scorpion is cool but will never happen since MK never comes out in Japan

Scorpion isn't happening

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> Scorpion
NEVER EVER, would be cool though

it's shit

>He looks like he'd be more of a Playstation All-Stars character than a Smash character. Let Sora have the spotlight in Smash
This is a very weird post user.

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>tfw genuine DQ fan
>tfw Erdrick isn't even popular in Japan, fans prefer Madason and Eight by miles

>Loto
>Not Madason
>Not Terry

Pay attention to the wings, dumbass.

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False flaggers.

>Protagonist that debuted on the NES looks more out of place than a think who debuted on the PS2

>wanting Hijab Kombat in Smash

Scorpion's a never-ever and I'd rather have a Resident Evil character or Amaterasu over Phoenix, but this is definitely something I could live with.

>Sora in Nintendo game, not PSAS
>Sora is more tied to Snoy's history
>Erdrick is tied to Nintendo's history immensley. See: Pokemon, SMT, Mother, etc are all inspired by DQ.

I'd rather have Eight myself, but I'll take what I can get when it comes to Dragon Quest.

Perhaps as an echo?

>All those skins but no Hanzo
Shame on you

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>Pokemon, SMT, Mother, etc are all inspired by DQ.
Nope.

Yep. Interviews have stated that Pokemon was inspired, and with the designs in SMT and Mother, they're clearly inspired by DQ.

>Capsule Monsters: 1990
>Dragon Quest V: 1992
Yeah, that makes sense.

While all you said about rosterfags is true, the truth is that Smash IS The greatest franchise in the planet and the end-all be-all of vidya.

No other dev would dare to make crossovers of such magnitude in a million years. This is why vidya history is the whole point of smash.

He doesn't know shit and is mad his self insert won't get in, just let him cope

>Dragon Quest V
Do you know DQ came out before DQV?
Unless you're talking about the monster shit.
The creators said they wanted to make a game "just like Dragon Quest" and that because you can't trade between games, it inspired the trading system.
Cope harder.

This is just a troll.

Nice reach, Banjoke.

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Imagine if Joker wasn't revealed and we had both Jack AND Brave as codenames.
People would be talking about fucking Raiden or like Handsome Jack from Borderlands or some shit.
We're going to feel that same way once Brave is revealed and it's not one of the characters people keep talking about.

Go back to your discord and take the Erdrincels with you.

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>This is why vidya history is the whole point of smash.
This was literally not the point of Smash until Smash 4 started throwing more third parties into the mix. It was originally just its own little fighting game that had Nintendo characters in it. Nintendo has plenty games where they throw a bunch of their characters into it. One of the biggest differences with Smash was that it was made by HAL and they got Game Freak on board, so it had characters from Kirby and Pokémon. This whole "vidya history" thing didn't start until Smash 4 where third parties stopped being "guest" appearances.

DQ is pretty high on my list, so I'm good. Fuck slime, though.

Reddit is your home

>Banjo?!

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Leaker here. Decided to do another. I will confirm or deny the first replied character.
Steve, Agumon, Rayman all deconfirmed

I don't see dragon quest anywhere

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Banjo

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This is bait but I’m taking it anyways.

Fuck you’re retarded

.

>it gave him the image of insects traveling along the wire

What a fucking weirdo.

Booooooooring!

Replace scorpion for literally anyone else and it's based.

He's autistic. Not in the Yea Forums sense, in the literal clinical sense.

I guess you'd have to be to make something as stupid yet charming as Pokemon.

based

holy shit based (and redpilled)
Dragon Cringe BTFO

>Using wiki as a reference
Lol

Cringe

Nope

BLOWN

THE

FUCK

OUT

Not him, but Mother is FOR SURE DQ inspired. It's supposed to be a parody of DQ. SMT is probably more inspired by Wizardry like DQ itself was.

>rosterfags just like to shit up any series with other retarded rosterfags
wow you dont say?
keeps more retards from getting into dq so thats fine by me desu

I just want so badly for there to be more Final Fantasy representation. It's incredibly unlikely that we'd get another Final Fantasy character before another Square series is given a fighter. So while I personally think Dragon Quest is inferior to Final Fantasy, Erdrick would at least bring the potential for more Square properties into the game. Currently there are only 2 spirits in the game 2 songs, and one stage. That's it. Not even the fucking Chocobo Mii costume came back. Erdrick is a worse choice than Slime in my opinion, but at least he might bring some more Square stuff into the game than there is currently

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Don't lie Erdrickfags. We all know that most of you haven't even played one Dragon Quest game, and that you probably didn't even know that Dragon Quest existed as a franchise until Erdrick got popular in the leak culture. Don't deny it.

Final Fantasy's weak-ass representation was Square-Enix being a pain in the ass. Dragon Quest is even worse since you have to go through Sugiyama for the music. If we get a DQ character I can't imagine it being much better than Cloud, 1 stage and 2 songs.

I'd only be okay with him if he had a semblance of a unique moveset, which I know he won't, given what Sakurai did to Joker.

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Can you actually explain to me what the fuck happened with Final Fantasy? Are they just being dicks and limiting the copywrite for no reason? Or is there something to do with the legality of it? Like Square-Enix doesn't own all of Final Fantasy anymore or what?

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I found DQ3 by a shindol doujin, and it's one of my favourite games of all time

*copyright fuck I have to stop typing so fast

Palutena of all characters was the closer in Nintendos 2014 e3 direct, theres no telling what they'll show.

but Joker has a unique moveset

There's only so many ways you can twist the word Brave having anything to do with your favorite character. Brave for instance, can be so many goddamn protagonists, it's not even funny.

And can we even stop to think about the possibility of the height not being definite? Or something totally messed up having to do with it?

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It's literally just Square-Enix being dicks about it, which, if Geno is ever actually in a meaningful conversation for being in the roster, means they have to go through Square for that too.

Which is honestly strange given how comfortable Square-Enix can be with whoring out Final Fantasy at home, with stuff like cup noodles, Ariana Grande, etc.

I don't even care anymore, just give me news already Nintendo!

Your image reminds me that "Brave" could also be a new Luigi's Mansion character, referencing how "brave" Luigi needs to be to explore a mansion full of spooky ghosts

>Has Arsene

ftfy

the height parameter doesn't even matter since Joker's height parameter is wrong in the files

EGaddbros we're up

In this instance, it might have something to do with Square having their own Final Fantasy fighting game, Dissidia. Maybe they view Smash as competition.

>the president
Based

>Persona protagonist uses their signature Persona
what's wrong with this

YOUR FAGGOT BEAR WILL NEVER BE IN SMASH HAHAHAHAHA

Exactly, I didn't even mention the possibility of a character being "brave" rather than just a protagonist. Or holy shit, the polar opposite and that being a word that either contradicts the characters' being or of something utterly specific, like one moment that character was acknowledged as brave.

>Joker has tons of unique potential, to be basically part Jojo (but ideally with multiple Personas) and part insanely stylish stealth combat
>Sakurai is supposedly a massive fanboy of P5
>he gets lazy and makes Joker's moveset a blatant cobblework of multiple preexisting animations, moves, and concepts; settles on only having Arsene and simply makes it an extension of Limit Break
Oh christ. Erdrick is already far less brimming with potential for uniqueness from the best case starting point, that doesn't bode well for him if he gets in.

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Brave is shorter than Mario going by the height parameters and tall as a FE character with Shield size

I can't wait for Brave to be someone completely unrelated to the 6 month circle jerk

Akira Toriyama designed both characters

To be fair, they had already announced Piranha Plant so there really wasn't as much need for an obtuse codename.

Honestly, whether Brave is Banjo or Erdrick (or any other DQ character for that matter), I don't think it especially matters. I honestly think BOTH are getting in as DLC. I have no fucking clue who the final two would be but I'm pretty confident in Banjo and a DQ character. I'm basing that on nothing but pure speculation and blind faith but I really think it's gonna happen.

>20 times vs 8000 times
Obsessed

I am a harcore FF fan. I've bought every single game in the series and played 4-10 to death. These games are some of the best of all time, and the pinnacle of what an RPG can be. It's been about 19 years since the last worthwhile main series release has come out, and the series is a sham of its former self. I fucking love Dissidia 012: Duodecim, it is the best in the series and am still unlocking content for that game, and I also play Ultimate and I hate Squeenix so much for cucking us. Smash and Dissidia could not be more different, and no one who was going to buy the next Dissidia game isn't also going to play the next installment in the franchise if there are spirits of the characters in Super Smash Bros. Is Squeenix as a company so fucking retarded that they actually think if Mario was put into the next Dissidia game people wouldn't buy the next Super Smash Bros. game?

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Both sizes fits Banjo perfectly, I don't see the problem.

Jack had nothing to do with Joker
>Jack of all trades
Only uses one Persona,
>Jack Frost
Nowhere to be found
Brave is just a random name. Erdrickfags are Stevefags in disguise

Phoenix Wright
Travis touchdown
Leon S. Kennedy

youtu.be/iwxgGpgbcfc?t=2002
cope harder

>ANOTHER third-party
>ANOTHER swordfighter
>ANOTHER Square Enix rep when Cloud was unjustified
There's nothing nice to say.

>he gets lazy and makes Joker's moveset a blatant cobblework of multiple preexisting animations, moves, and concepts
retard

Explain the "Brave" class?

Binned hard.

youtu.be/iwxgGpgbcfc?t=2005
better timestamp

Play DDS Megami Tensei II and tell me that shit isn't DQ inspired. Also you can tell Mother is DQ inspired just by looking at it.

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>Stevefags use Erdrick to stir shit
>Makes people that might genuinely want Erdrick look bad
>Nearly tried to do this with Monster Hunter and very likely falseflag with Banjo
Can we publicly execute all Stevefags? I swear to god smash roster speculations threads have been 1000 times worse because of this cancer. It honestly makes Ashley and Isaacfags a lot more tolerable by comparison.

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>Getting offended by Stevefags
Are you a child?

>Shonen Jump most likely don't even know that Erdrick exists
Dear god, the delusion.

Even if you gave him multiple personas, it's kind of hard to come up with something wholly unique for him at this point seeing as how the existing cast covers so much ground and Joker doesn't really have that many unique fighting animations in his own game. Even if he had multiple personas, his attacks would still have likely functioned similarly to other magic/projectile based characters.

Ultimately, any character you add that doesn't have that many of their own unique combat animations in their own series is going to end up like this.

SE took almost 20 years to realize the monetary potential of an FF7 remake and despite having almost half a decade sunk into it so far they can't even get a remake of a PS1 game right. They ARE that fucking retarded, user.
Why is it that Sonic is fair game to be called out for this shit but not your precious Joker?
youtu.be/muTJjHRk2C8

Sorafags are worse.

Sans??!!!???????!?!?????!???poggers

>Also, how in the fuck would insiders confuse Dai for Erdrick, retard.
The same way Hitagi was convinced Katalina would be in Smash but as it turned out was only going to be in a Granblue fighting game.

Should have been him, FE bros ... not The Epic Ike, not Robin...

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>Joker kicks the air
>ZSS also kicks the air
>That means Joker borrowed his animations from ZSS
retards

I have a better idea: let's execute all people talking about the roster for Smash. They have been shitting boards and websites for the past decade.

>accepting even more cancer in threads that are already awful as-is
Definitely not. I would like to believe that they're at least actual fans of KH. They're closer to Isaacfags or Banjofags.

>Erdrick(Steve)fags keep talking about how iconic DQ is and how DQ is the most popular JRPG series in the world
>It's so popular lesser JRPGs got in first years before even being considered
Makes you wonder

>purposely pretending to be stupid

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>Richter is Sony

Replace Roy with a mounted character
Replace Lucina with a spear User
Replace Ike with an ax user
Replace Chrom with a Manakete

There, fixed Fire Emblem

It's telling how Erdrickfags actually don't know shit about DQ, otherwise they would know basic shit like Erdrick not being all that popular, not even in Japan.

Yeah let's just remove anyone who talks about competitive smash as well. Or anyone who talks about Smash in general.
Hell let's just remove video game discussion all together!

Drop Crash and it's actually pretty good.

To Hitagi's defense, she did step forward before Joker's reveal to disconfirm Katalina being in Smash and that it was for a GBF fighting game... That was anounced a few weeks later.
And she was the only one saying Katalina. This time it's her and ten other people who have been saying Erdrick since December. It's unlikely they confused Dai with Erdrick. Not all of them.

I just want a DQ rep

Axe user would just fight like Ike anyway, might as well reskin Ragnell into Urvans and change its hitbox, it wouldn't make a difference. Manakete would be retarded because they might as well not be them at all. I saw how fucking terrible Tiki was in FE: Warriors.

>can everyone but Marth
>add Tiki
Fixed.

nintendoeverything.com/japanese-dragon-quest-fans-choose-their-favorite-game-monster-character/
Erdrick IS the most popular protagonist in Japan.

Rosterfaggotry is not vidya discussion little faggot.

Why do I feel like 90% of the people on here who actually want Erdrick in never actually played his game?

WHY NOT DAI INSTEAD?!
HE IS THE SUPERIOR DQ CHARACTER
REEEEEEEEE

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>Why is it that Sonic is fair game to be called out for this shit but not your precious Joker?
Both are stupid arguments.
>WHY DOES THE SLIM FAST CHARACTER HAVE ATTACKS TAKEN FROM OTHER SLIM FAST CHARACTERS!?
Joker doesn't have that much to go off of for normal attacks so they went with attacks from existing characters that fit him. They did this with Ridley as well.

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I hope he gets a female version like Corrin or Robin.

do not associate discordfags with anyone here, you're just making them look bad.

MonHun moveset could be pretty cool if it uses all available weapons. But I bet the MH character would just end up being a heavy sword character like Ike.

Because you're right. See

Fuck Roblin

>Talking about Video Games is not video games

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I’m sorry your creatively bankrupt, also we don’t have a bear in the game yet, what even is this argument?

>They ARE that fucking retarded
I know they're fucking retarded, I still have the vs. 13 poster from 8 years ago. I had to endure hallway simulators 1-3. They're a dead company, but in their last breaths before either infinite darkness Does Disney own Kingdom Hearts? or a glorious return I just want them to hand their greatest achievements over to Sora Ltd. before they do. Give me content from Final Fantasy I, as well as IV-X, give me Tactics, give me Crystal Chronicles, Theatrhythm, Dissidia. I wanna see Chocobos as stage hazards, Mog as a shop keeper, Black Mage as an Assist Trophy, fucking anything more than what we have.

OH NO NO NO NO NO

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>Replace glorified skins with completely unique characters
That's not how it works.

How the fuck is Banjo the same height as Mario

Jokes on you Loto has been one of my most wanted for years
I'll be genuinely really happy if he gets in while Yea Forums will be having a shitposting meltdown

Erdrickfags. Answer me this. Who is Ortega.

Wrong Square owned Toriyama art style JRPG protagonist

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I'd ideally want him to use the Insect Glave over a mish-mash, but honestly I just want Monster Hunter in the game. Blueballing us with a boss fight and two music tracks feels like shit.

>He doesn't know Toriyama is a hack that recycle his characters for every single piece of medias he partake in

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>nobody answered this in less than a minute
Once again, Erdrickfags exposed as fake fans.

His missing father who loses his memories after fighting Zoma and dies not recognizing his own son.
I'd fucking home any Erdrick fan who's not a Chadhan spammer would recognize one of the most important characters in his game

>>Manakete
>Tiki warps in
>immediately transforms
>only turns human for taunts and victory animations
Now the difficulty is making a moveset different from Charizard.

>So I heard this FP didn't have enough surprises for Smash Bros Ultimate, huh?
>Well, this party is about to get crazy!
>Let's Rock!

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>no megaman.exe
>no todd howard
>no sora
>no demi fiend

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Retard. The moves are only superficially similar, like Joker kicks in the air and ZSS also kicks in the air. If you actually bothered to compare the moves, you'd see that Joker's animations are completely different and he even uses his legs in a different order than ZSS.

oh nice, another anime swordsman.
Noctis would unironically be a better anime swordsman rep since at least he also has giant shuriken thing, bowgun, scepter, trident, axe, mace, shield, etc besides 4 swords.

I heard people saying that Joker basically plays how Dante would and would make him redundant, is this true?

This reminds me a time when i was 7 and I had a group of two friends. Made a fort together, and when my friends sister knew about it, she wanted in but we didn't let her.
10 years later, the group of friends grew to 5, and one night we got all drunk playing uno and shit. Lil sister came late at home, drunk on her ass and wanted to play uno too. She was stripping on her cloths not recognizing we weren't playing strip poker, stupid blonde. Then she made 3 of the other friends strip, including his brother. She poured alcohol to her modest breasts, humped the chair... basically made every one hard as diamonds. The thing was that she made her brother, the other "fort" friend and one more stand up with only her boxers on, and having the biggest tent. Lil sister knelt down and started to rub the legs and tights seductively. Me, and the other guy that didn't know her well, where starting to feel uncomfortable, but we couldn't stop staring at her. To not make it long, the three dudes. brother at the middle, were surrounding her when she asked the ones at the back for fruit, it was prop fruit not real. She took 2 oranges and one banana. At first we though oh shit, shes gonna compare dicks. But the little bitch took the oranges with each hand and punch his brother and his friend's nuts so hard, they went down trampling each other. The third guy was able to react and escape.
She then got up and mumble "you should have let me in the fucking fort."

My point is, people that didn't play mario rpg pretend they do and go full contrarian for the sake of not being left out.

Brave is Merida from Pixar's Brave. Her final smash is turning into a bear

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Jesus fucking christ this delusion.

>after fighting Zoma

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That is completely true. Joker pretty much took all of Dante's moves and made him completely irrelevant. Even Dante's most iconic signature move, rainstorm, is a normal move in Joker's moveset.

Not at all, Dante would definitely work better than Joker, as unlike the latter, Dante has always been able to change his fighting style.
Just in DMCV, you could get dual rocket launcher, crazy nunchuck action, GIANT SWORD, MJ curayzehness, classic gun fighting, and even a fucking motorbike attack.
And that's not even talking about RoyalGuard, and other shit he had in previous games.
So yeah, Dante is the one character with the biggest moveset potential of them all.

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>No one knows who the next DLC Will be and anyone complaining about the DQ heroes (not just erdrick) deserves to be raped and hanged on the streets for not knowing shit about gaming history, which is THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF SMASH
As expected from an erdrickfag, suck my fucking cock you psycho

If Erdrick got in, it would just boost the West's lack to care for DQ straight to downright hatred. Because guess what? He'd just be seen as another anime swordsman. His legacy is nonexistant in the West. He would just be seen as "Goku with a sword". That's it.

This promotional tactic did jack shit for Corrin and Fates. And it'll be the same for DQ.

I wish all smashfags will stop talking about these leaks.

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Jesus christ dude it's just a video game.

I can easily see Erdrick inclusion in Smash backfire so hard that all future western sales for Dragon Quest tanks to permashit, making it impossible for Dragon Quest to ever be relevant outside of Japan. And rightfully so. Fuck shill characters.

And the Japs only have themselves to blame on that with their greedy lust for FE and Xenoblade. If they didn't get such a deluge of JRPG swordsmen already, Erdrick could've been better received at this point.

If they really wanted to Erdrick can equip shit like shields, whips, sickles, lances, clubs, flails and boomerangs alongside all his spellcasting.

Why are Smashfags so intent to shitpost about how boring a characters moveset would be when they have blatantly not played any of their games? I don't like Isaac but I can acknowledge you can do a lot with him besides sword attacks.

The newer FE games sold like hotcakes in the west. Granted it was largely due to Fujos, but still, you talk like a fag and yer shit's all retarded.

Although I'd rather just have Goku than Erdrick.

>GOKU?!? GOKU!!!!!
>Wait who's "Erdrick"?
>Oh, he's from Dragon Quest? That grindy shit? Fuck that
>He's just playing like Robin
>They're asking me to pay for a Robin clone?
>I'm selling my copy of Smash, fuck Sakurai

>WE GOT AN ANIME CHARACTER AND HE WASN'T GOKU!?!?
>DQ sales in the West go from 1.1% to -0.00012%
You DQshitters deserve this fate.

I'm sure the 10 million other people who bought Ultimate are just as autistic as Yea Forums rosterfags.

>You DQshitters deserve this fate.
There's only 10 legit DQ fans who want a rep. The rest are just Stevefags who are rooting for him because the "leakers" say Steve is in too with Erdrick

Awakening sold like hotcakes without any Smash shilling to help it (that came after), and then when Fates got Smash shilling it only barely outsold Awakening.

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nobody thinks like this

>Awakening sold like hotcakes without any Smash shilling to help
Why do you think FE even came to the West?

As someone who hates generic anime shit, I don't care if the DLC character is some generic shit from Dragon Quest, just so long as the character isn't a fucking sword user. They all have the same fucking movesets and they're so boring to fight they all blur into a single shitty character.

>Why do you think FE even came to the West?
It had to do with FE's developer pushing Japan-only series to the West. Advance Wars used to be Japan only but IS released it in America first before Melee was even released. Melee had nothing to do with it, retard.

Have you seen social media and the outrage over characters nobody asked for?

Banjo is a Brad

tl;dr
look at yourself throwing a tantrum over dbz cartoons and reconsider your life

There has been no social media outrage over characters nobody asked for. The general Smash fanbase likes every single reveal. It's only places Yea Forums's or rosterfag infested forums where you'll see outrage over a character they don't like.

If people were ok with Corrin, they're going to be ok with Erdrick.

You can lead a horse to a river, but you can't make him drink from it.

Square Enix forcing Dragon Quest on the West this way would just backfire tremendously.

It'd be really cool if they somehow incorporated a class or party mechanic into Erdricks moveset. He'll probably default to the legendary Erdrick armor but DQ3 is especially notable for its custom classes and it'd be nice to see that represented in some form.

It'd be cool if they went the direction of summoning monsters too but if that was their idea Madason would be more fitting for that moveset than Erdrick.

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This has to be a joke. DQ fans have wanted a character for a long time, even before Smash 4. Stop talking about things you don't know about, it's one of the most popular franchises in Japan, even more than FF. Smash fans are not all from Europe and the US, but also from Japan.

His game was awesome and one of the best I've ever played.

I don't really see what that has to do with the point about Smash affecting FE sales.
>Melee includes Marth and Roy
>The next two FE games do okay
>Brawl includes Ike
>The next four FE games all eat shit until Awakening releases, four years after Brawl, and becomes a breakout success
>Smash 4 includes Robin, Lucina and Corrin
>Fates sells only slightly better than Awakening, and then Echoes sales fall back to pre-Awakening numbers
There's absolutely no correlation here.

>even more than FF
Then why did Cloud get in first?

It's really fucking good and the Smash fandoms reaction to the game receiving attention in Smash because they don't have nostalgia for it is embarrassing.

Ideally the series should help you expand your horizons by introducing you to characters you normally wouldn't think about but it's become a fucking war over "my childhood > your childhood and I'll cry about it for years if my character doesn't get in"

Fire Emblem is just one of the weakest selling IPs Nintendo's got. And they're basically using Smash as a way to force fans to fucking acknowledge it. It's Todd Howard shit. No Sakurai I'm not gonna fucking buy Fates, get this shit out of my face.

The fandom's reaction to Erdick getting would result in two words being said to DQ dev team.

"Go. Away."

Nintendo likes Fire Emblem because its gacha bullshit makes hundreds of millions every year and because the main series brings the JRPG audience to their platform, something they lost after the SNES era and have struggled for years to get back.

It doesn't appeal to core Nintendo fans and that's why you see it so much. Because it's literally not targeted towards them, it's for players who aren't into cartoony mascot platformers.

Why does it matter which franchise gets in first? Are we going to pretend now that Ice Climbers is more popular than Animal Crossing because it got a character first?
You said that DQ had no fans. This is blatantly wrong. FF might be more popular in Europe and the US (as I implied earlier), but gets stomped in Japan. DQ has its own vacations in Japan, its own derived products, and also is referenced a lot in animes and mangas (most monsters from Isekai stories are directly inspied by the DQ universe).
DQ is popular in Japan, this is impossible to deny.

Lmao I just like watching Banjofags seethe

The DQ team deserve harsher words than that for denying Sora his place in Smash Bros.

Sora deserves a place in a trash can

The next dlc character is Groovy!

>Nintendo likes Fire Emblem because its gacha bullshit makes hundreds of millions every year
They were pushing the series years before that happened.

If DQ's legacy is bigger than FF's. Why did Cloud get in first?

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Tranime

And are pushing it much harder ever since.
Why do you think its getting an expo this month? It's because the mobile made it one of Nintendo's most profitable properties and they wanna keep that train going.

Why does it matter who gets in first?

FUCK Toriyama

Wasn't Iwata a huge DQfag?

God if Erdrick gets in I hope his female version is an alt.
I don't think I've ever played DQ3 with the male character since her exclusive Sexy personality is the best stat modifier in the game. She's become the canon hero in my head.

Because it shows that dq isn't as big as you think

NOOOOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR BANJOBROS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN

And how is that relevant? Because DQ isn't relevant.

No it doesn't.

>Because DQ isn't relevant.
>The definitive version of DQXI is coming to the Switch
>Sequel to successful DQ spinoff is coming to the Switch soon
>isn't relevant
what did he mean by this

Just found it interesting that this is what he says

>I want to increase the number of people worldwide that understand the appeal of Dragon Quest, which represents all Japanese gaming culture…even if that only turns out to be a single person.

>ff7 is the best known jrpg worldwide
>because of this, normalfags cite it as the greatest jrpg of all time
>Cloud isn't really a Finaly Fantasy rep, just ff7
And none of this decreases dq's importance in the slightest.

Not that user but pretending DQ isn't an extremely influential and popular series because they didn't get into Smash before Cloud is absurd.

Final Fantasy is undeniably bigger and has been since the PS1 broke the JRPG genre into the mainstream market with VII but that doesn't mean DQ doesn't have its own legacy. If fucking Persona can get into Smash because 5 is popular at the moment than Dragon Quest sure as fuck isn't off the table when it helped define the genre and outsells it.

Bradjo has been slain by CHADrick

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So when did rosterfags take over this franchise?

They've always been the loudest group.
I don't know what happened between Brawl and now though, things have become so much angrier. I guess when your pet pick is losing to Wario and Diddy Kong you can't shitpost as much as when they lose to some JRPG protagonist you've never heard of.

Say hello to your most influential western character

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Japan isn't hostile to the idea of Reimu in Smash.

And the Smash fandom should "Go. Away." into a shower.

Japan section needs about a hundred people asking for Marth clones

good good

seething smashfags is always nice to watch

>Japan isn't hostile to the idea of Reimu in Smash.
You have literally never seen any discussion on Japanese websites at all. Reimu is basically the Jap equivalent of Sans in terms of how she's viewed as a Smash candidate. Which is funny because Sans is actually a fairly popular pick over there, making him their equivalent of how a lot of people over here view Reimu.

What is Bewear? Checkmate atheists

But they are my most-wanted

>Sans is actually a fairly popular pick over there
Son of a bitch... I had a feeling you were gonna say that.

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That "Eastern version" is a lot less cancerous. The Smash fandom would be a million times better if it were more like the bottom with few people taking rosterfagging seriously.

I still want someone to translate this comic into moonrunes and post it on a Jap forum/imageboard to see what happens.

It's funny how a lot of the 64 crew would probably get super hated on if they were added post-Brawl (or weren't N64 veterans)

Erdrick came before adult Goku.

>manchild faggots still mad Goku not getting in despite the fact Sakurai said long ago if it didn’t originate in a video game it’s not getting in Smash

Why is Fall Out gay now?

Based and Cowpilled

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They're in.

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Melee would be shitposted to death now too

Manchild faggots would seethe even harder if that rule wasn't in place because Sakurai would much rather have a Western character like James Bond before Goku. The "no non-vidya character" rule dates back to Sakurai's attempts to put Bond in Melee anyway.

Slime would be based.

Real talk, is he arguably the most likely character at this point?

Any arguments that could have been made against him were BTFO with Joker.

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This is like saying actual Castlevania fans want Richter, Alucard or Soma.
Yes, they're more popular than Simon within the fanbase, but it was clear Simon was always going to get in first because he's the face of the Belmont clan. Same goes for the "Hero" archetype in Dragon Quest, Erdrick's is simply way more prominent within the series than Madason, Eight or Luminary.

And I've never quite gotten the appeal of Slime being a standalone character. I'd rather see him paired with a monster tamer moveset.

He's my number 1 most wanted, so I hope to god he's the most likely

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Madason? Yes
Slime? Hell no

I think its just the ballot that made more delusional, K. Rool getting in and people interpreting him getting in would net every other popular choice getting in as well even if not as popular. Erdrick and Steve are result of the antifags just rallying against characters pushed by rosterfags and now we're here.

Its kinda hilarious DQ in Japan has a deal with Universal.

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Just like Nintendo, really makes you think.

It did first appear a whole decade after DQ first used the design...

>Marth and Roy
>Young Link
>Dr.Mario
>Falcondorf
>Pichu
>Sheik
>Falco
>Mr.Game&Watch
>Ice Climbers
Shit, you're right.

He's from Capcom's biggest franchise (Capcom supports the fuck out of Smash too), so getting him in is easy as piss unlike Square who is notoriously stingy and Microsoft who has no prior Smash involvement.

His chances literally come down to whether or not we get a new Capcom rep for the fighters pass, which is a pretty safe bet.

Technically he competes with Chris and Jill.

>Mother
>Nope
lol

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We've got a THIRD competition for third party character. First it was Steve and Banjo from Microsoft, then Sora and Erdrick from Square Enix, and now there's reason to believe Dante might also be in the running for the Capcom DLC fighter now that DMC1 is coming to Switch.

Meanwhile, who could they possibly add from Bandai Namco?

>Excitebike

based

He's literally the mascot of the game, what's your problem with slime?

Not all people are as stupid as estrogen-fueled sorafags.

Leon's the most likely out of the three solely because of RE4

Even with the port, he's deconfirmed, at least for the first Fighter Pass if we get more. I do really want Dante/Vergil/Nero in Smash but thinking it has priority over RE is kinda dumb. Maybe in FP2/Smash 6.

What about Toejam and Earl for Sega reps? I think they fit pretty well, and their series is iconic (and has a new game out which nobody is playing because the artstyle is uggo as fuck).

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Goku ripoff..? OH! You mean this guy? HOLY BASED

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I don't have a strong attachment to Slime, in almost every mainline game it's just an early game enemy you run over. I have an attachment to the protagonists and other party members.
I don't hate Slime, I just don't think it would be the correct way to represent Dragon Quest.

Joker is already the Sega rep. In fact, Sega's parent company acquiring Atlus is probably why we got Joker in the first place.

You're a fucking idiot.

I'm in the same boat.
I know Rocket Slime exists but I'm not that interested in DQs first character referencing a spinoff and not a mainline game.

Who's dick do I have to suck to get Oda to design a Dragon Quest game? I've wanted this ever since he and Toriyama drew each others' characters.

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Every person with good taste likes DQ, Miyamoto called DQ3 "fine wine" and even Kingdom Hearts's creator says Dragon Quest is his favorite.

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Pretty sure they aren't even a part of sega since back in the groove
Speaking of sega, puyo would be neat

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b o g u s

>Brave
>Brave Vesperia

He's basically in as your Namco rep.

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I thought Miyamoto hated RPGs and never played one until the first Mother

One down, three to go

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Dragon Warrior is his favorite user
Are DQfags illiterate?

Travis and Ryu are already deconfirmed

>Meanwhile, who could they possibly add from Bandai Namco?
>Tales character
>Tekken character
>Digimon character
>The Prince
>KOS-MOS
>Dig Dug
>Klonoa
>Don-chan

Brave is Frisk. Give up autists.

This is the most obvious bait ever but I'll still give you a (you) because you made me laugh

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kek, nice bait

i'm honestly sick of people who say "dude mario says erdrick's a cool guy in a party game so he must be in", it's fucking annoying even though they're obviously shitposters

I'm pretty sure both Chris and Jill have more crossover appearances than Leon.
Leon seems to be in the same boat as Richter.

Holy shit, Peach is such an entitled bitch...

>Mario = Erdrickfags
>Peach = Banjofags
>Waluigi = Stevefags

What will his moveset be? And will they give him a special mechanic? Maybe something involving the party members, or leveling up? What about his Final Smash?

I posted it just for the joke. I gave up on trying to post actual reasons for Erdrick since I don't have the proper training to deal with special needs.

>tfw I just fucking realized Stevefags are just Sansfags/Waluigifags under a different coat of paint
thank you for opening my eyes user

Dunno, overall the Erdrick talk is kinda annoying at this point. We have retards that now want the series to fall, now we got Banjofags involved in the talk as well for some reason, we have bandwagonners and so on.

Wouldn't it be
Peach = Sorafags / I don't believe he is in
Waluigi = Banjofags / Actually he was called a brave bear once!

>Travis deconfirmed

Prove it.

OH GOD, PLEASE BE FULL OG SHIT

no

i remember the devs did a stream for Travis' new game and repeated multiple times that Travis isn't in Smash

Ryu isn't, Dante is

>"Yoo hoo! Oh, hero-man! Won't you come and rescue me? I'm helpless when it comes to rolling the die!" Birdo
>"Legendary hero, shmegendary hero! My dad’s way braver than any ol’ hero!" (Bowseer Jr.)
>"Whoa! Alefgard! I want to meet the legendary dragon warrior Erdrick! But I forgot my camera! Wah-hah!" (Toad)
>"Huh? Who cares about some legendary hero? The only legend you need to know about is the legend of WARIO!"
>"Just one time only, I wish to fight in battle with legendary hero, Erdrick." (Alena)
>"Seems like someone's in need of a hero, eh? There's only one hero for me, though... Eh? Oh, nothin'. (Bianca)
The quotes cover these threads way too well

So? thats no canon, that blowing smoke. Like jhonen vasques saying invader zim will never return. Suda is fucked up like that.

Slight adjustment.
>Mario = Mariofags
>Peach = Sorafags
>Waluigi = Stevefags

>Bianca = Madasonfags/Slimefags

>Bianca was Madisonfag all along

Toriyama really is talentless. He can only draw 2 characters. Maybe 3.

Based Wario

Not really. I'd say none of the classes in DQIII look the same, except maybe priestess/sage and that is likely intentional

>Waluigi = Banjofags
>Wario = Stevefags
Is this accurate?

>I forgot my camera!
Holy shit Toad's a leaker.

Gee no wonder Toad isn't allowed to be playable in Smash.

Why do Smashfags want to make everything about Smash?

Real talk, isn't it kinda weird that pic related didn't get any spirits?

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There's many video game IPs that don't have spirits either. Even some of Nintendo's IPs lacks even one spirit, such as Geist. Pic related.

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Quick, before we hit the bump limit dump your lewdest (but still sfw) female Erdricks.

What are the chances that, with Brave's size, it's actually Slime? That would explain why it's so slippery too.

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because autism

>tfw brave isn't banjo or erdrick but slime or frisk
What a time to be alive.

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I mean, I played DQ3 just because of this stirred-up rumor. If anything, it's positive causality for the franchise.

i'm okay with that.

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not very likely since the shield size fits Fire Emblem-sized characters

Slime would be the ideal DQ rep. Stop laughing.

Imagine hating on Dragon Quest like a tool.

when did brave have a shield
inform me user

granted but some horrible meme will get in causing threads about it to never stop flooding Yea Forums.

at least it wouldn't be a leak anymore.

Hating on Dragon Quest is justified, it's the Call of Duty of JRPGs

Shield stat, which is the stat which represents the size of a character shield bubble. It's a pretty good way to understand the size of a character because almost every shield accurately reflects a character's model size. The only exception is Yoshi because he doesn't have a normal shield.
Brave's shield stat is equal to Snake's I think?

No, I'm talking about the size of the Smash Bros shield. That's a parameter too that determines how big a shield is. Brave's shield size fits the human sized characters like the Fire Emblem cast, Snake and Incineroar.

Slime would be cool. Undertale, not so much.

Every time I see a person say this they've never played a Dragon Quest game

That's interesting honestly.
I still do believe Brave has a higher chance of being Slime than Erdrick.
If I'm wrong (which i likely won't) be, then fuck me, but the future is always unexpected. We'll see at E3, where they'll likely introduce two new fighters.

here's an image that has everyone's shield size and height
red numbers are the shield size and black numbers are height

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So do the height stat even mean or do anything? It seems wildly inconsistent.

I think people have said that nobody knows what height is used for in-game

I've played 1-3, 5, 8, and 11
Very little changes between them

What if Kazooie is active in the shield, but not in the idle?

Undertale and Deltarune are both games that are famous and beloved worldwide to the point that it damn near rivals Touhou in terms of popularity. As cringy and retarded as it sounds, an Undertale rep would honestly make sense.

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Joker's height parameter is still listed as 15 in the in-game files even though he's taller than Luigi. It's basically useless in-game.
Fun fact: Both Joker and Brave's paremeters were copied and pasted from Piranha Plant. That's why Joker's datamined height and shield size parameter are Piranha Plant's in that image. Brave also shares parameters with Piranha Plant.

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New thread

Don't see how a series sticking to traditions makes it equivalent to Call of Duty. I thought the problem with Call of Duty was over-saturation due to basically yearly releases. DQ has had 11 mainline games released over the course of over 30 years

So Brave could still be literally anyone.

So once again, proving you haven't played Dragon Quest?

This. People complain about there being like 10 sword characters, when nearly every other character is just an unarmed punch guy

Why can't it throw its old fans in the trash like Banjo did? It's so totally not epic bros!

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Maybe. Honestly, I think it just means that the height parameter is useless and that these parameters are subject to change. Like Joker's datamined parameters are really different from his final parameters.

its almost as if Akira toriyama did art for more than one franchise huh

DBZ would have been so much better if Goku had a sword

Never

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Brave is slippery because his slide stat was copied from Joker and is most likely a placeholder that will be changed by the character's release.