Can a game give you PTSD?

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Muv luv.

Which one do i have to play? There are like 3 or 4 games and there was a infographic around about it. I don't usually play weebshit and i'm kinda lost.
Don't want to read 50 hours of a vn for nothing.

try the first one, if you dont like that one you might not like the rest.

Yes

yes.

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The animals that would sneak up, jump 30 feet, and kill you in two hits. These fuckers were running at mph. I couldn't get past the 5th level because of fear.

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Spec Ops the Line was such a great game but it saddens me how most of the posters on Yea Forums just miss the point completely
>dude lmao i used white phosphor and game blames me for that??? Wtf there was no alternative routes

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>ummm the game is obviously trying to guilt trip me, okay????

If you are going to get it from steam the first two are in the same pack.
/app/802880/MuvLuv/

the third-one /app/802890/MuvLuv_Alternative/ is much better if you played the other ones first.

go on then, explain how it's not bullshit

Thank you user. I will look into it.

I hate middle eastern people, so the scene did nothing for me. I just love the hellish feeling of the game.

Here's the chart. Only the two main girls in Extra are absolutely mandatory, and all three Unlimited endings are accessible from within an hour of the ending so you don't have to replay the entire thing.

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>make it impossible to progress unless you do the evil option
>surprised when players say it's retarded
But no, I guess having a 2deep4u "IF YOU KEEP PLAYING THIS GAME YOU'RE EVIL" is more important.

The goal isn't to self insert as Walker. If you did you have nothing to blame but yourself.

The worst thing about this was that you had to sit through the unskippable 2 minute cutscene everytime you died, christ almighty.

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every now and then when i go to sleep i still see kula world

As a kid, something similar to it, if it depicts traumatic enough imagery.
If you're asking whether a grown adult will, no.

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>playing civ 5 on any difficulty above Prince
>this motherfucker spawns right next to you
Good indicator of when to restart a game

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>Declare war instantly
Problem solved.

Thanks user.

Dont mess up anons/

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Writer: ok this scene will be the turning point for the character and it will show the player that our characters are not obviously black and white
Players: WTF THEY GAVE ME NO CHOICE AND NOW THEY BLAME ME

Retard.

Then do it in a cutscene.
Or not at all, because it's a retarded contrivance for story purposes.

No, "retarded", you have to add the "ed" at the end my ESL friend.

Your issue is that you think that you're supposed to self insert into the player character despite this never being the games intent. You're also a fucking moron for thinking that every game needs RPG tier choices (which is even dumber here because Spec Ops is a linear third person shooter trying to tell a specific narrative). Did you get mad at Garret in Thief for being a thief without your input who has goals to steal from people during every mission?
>Noo I don't like it, it's dumb! I wouldn't have done that!
No one gives a shit, the story isn't about you. I bet you can't even watch movies or tv shows without sperging out over the lack of user input.

This or the Ethiopians

>Your issue is that you think that you're supposed to self insert into the player character
No, I stated very clearly that it's because it forces the player to make an evil choice.

> You're also a fucking moron for thinking that every game needs RPG tier choices
It forces you to make the choice between continuing the game or performing an evil act, I never once stated it needed to have "RPG tier" choices, you projecting retard.

>Did you get mad at Garret in Thief for being a thief
I got mad at mad at Walker in White Phosphorus artilleryman for being a White Phosphorus artilleryman.

>>Noo I don't like it, it's dumb! I wouldn't have done that!
I'm saying it's dumb for HIM to do that you mouthbreathing faggot.

Yes.

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this...broke me, but i beat it

If the point isn't for you to self-insert into Walker then why the fuck should you feel bad or "get PTSD" at all?

Idiot.

Not him but
>No, I stated very clearly that it's because it forces the player to make an evil choice.
The point is that you the player are not making the choice, walker is the one making all the decisions during the game and doing more fucked up shit because he wont open his eyes to the truth. Choosing instead to delude himself into believing that the situation in dubai is more convoluted than it really is because he is in denial that he could be doing a bad thing as a heroic figure going in to save people from the bad guys, leading him to do increasingly more horrific acts in order to keep up this illusion. You're still falling for the trap that you as the player have any more part in the story than controlling walker as he shoots things in the game and projecting yourself into the moral and psychological implications in the story that are about walker.

>The point is that you the player are not making the choice
Then why have it as an interactable scene?
Oh right, to try and make the player "feel" as if he''s in his shoes, performing the actions, making the choices.

Because its a video game adaptation of heart of darkness. Its telling you the story of walker going deep into the shit and seeing how it changes him but instead of just watching martin sheen sweat bullets and slowly get more indifferent and deranged you play through a decently designed third person shooter with some unique setpieces and subtle changes in his mannerisms and animations as the game progresses and he gets crazier and crazier. If they just cut to a cinematic of him nuking people after you finish the combat section instead of having you go up and push the button you're wrestling more control and interactivity from the player. Its not very much but every moment that you aren't actually playing the game is less time for you to see how walker acts on a more intimate level. This is true for every game with any emphasis on its story being relevant to the game outside of setpieces to play in, just cutting to a cinematic out of nowhere is awful flow that pulls you out of the experience which is why the story falls flat in some games more than others even when the writing is of a similar quality.

>HoD etc
No shit.

>If they just cut to a cinematic of him nuking people after you finish the combat section instead of having you go up and push the button you're wrestling more control and interactivity from the player.
As opposed to making it impossible to continue unless you do it? Yeah sure, okay.

>just cutting to a cinematic out of nowhere is awful flow
As is forcing a "oh no, you HAVE to do [Terrible thing] to progress".

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You're just being obtuse because you haven't scraped together enough brain cells to understand a very simple concept behind the overall design of a game so you got your feelings hurt when you didn't get it even after the very clear ending dialogue exchange putting everything out in the open for you, assuming you even played the game at all. Its okay if a video game's intent was too much for you to understand because you had to press some button sometimes, thats what the marvel movies are for.

>ur mad cuz ur dum
I'm "mad" because it's an insultingly stupid contrivance, both in terms of story and gameplay.
You keep believing it is whatever you've cooked up in that empty head of yours.

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>dude it's so deep you gotta stop playing lmao
michael haneke can go fuck himself

Not that game. Red Orchestra 2 and Rising Storm and RS2, though. Those games do it.
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Close your eyes and imagine that the person screaming and moaning is taking the biggest shit of their life

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Like I said, its okay if you couldn't grasp the premise of this presentation of heart of darkness. There's plenty of other things out there that will treat you better and keep things simple so you can get your dopamine injections.

Yes, I know what you believe in that head of yours, you can stop replying now.

But hitting buttons is fun, more so when I can use my head a little at the same time, but I don't think you'd get that last part.

>more so when I can use my head a little
Why would you talk about something you have no experience in?

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Spec Ops did. It was such a horrible piece of shit that I stopped playing FPS games entirely.

>no u
yikes

>Yikes
Wowsers

>Wowsers
thats a big oof from me my dude

>oof
Oh sweetie...

>sweetie
have sex

>OBSESSED with sex
Okay incel

My ex gf cheated on me by playing League with other guys and then meeting them IRL.
Now whenever I see anything related to League, I immediately am reminded how shitty most women actually are

>incel
based

>based
cringe

This and those fucking cannon parts from the first game. Why did you have to remind me, user.

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>you think that you're supposed to self insert into the player character despite this never being the games intent.

Oh fuck off you pretentious idiot. Yeah those are not aimed at the player at all.

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But Mr. Shitposter, it was third-person...

Have sex

spec ops the line isnt about good or bad choises. its story just subverts the usual hoorah america fuck yeah heroic tales that fps games usually employ. youre on rails to commiting atrocities and players complain YET the same people have no problem being on rails in cod doing "heroic" shit. thats the whole point of the game. not stob blaying xd

I played that when it came out and I didn't thought twice about the white phosphorus
boring generic shooter, plot was boring too

>YET the same people have no problem being on rails in cod doing "heroic" shit.
The main criticism levied at CoD is its on the rails heroic bullshit, at least story wise.

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SEETHING

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But its not real, its a game. So why do you care about Walker killing innocent people on accident?

yet people enjoy cod campaigns. and why wouldnt they? its pretty cathartic to be a super soldier fighting for a good cause. spec ops is anti cod campaign in that sense.

I don't, why is the game trying to make me care?

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It's called empathy.

You are still a good person. Walker isn't.

I'm perfectly aware, I don't need the game reassuring me of it at every step. THIS is my issue with it, not roasting virtual shitskins. It's obnoxious and preachy.

There never was as a strong of a reaction to the lack of choice in CoD games because it's easy to just tune out and headclick demonized nazi tier enemies and have good brainless fun. Then when spec ops the line does it in reverse people snap out of their brodude autopilot and scream how the game sucks. I find it funny of anything.

kek true

>Everyone who hates the game is a dudebro that plays CoD.
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the weird thing about spec ops is the fact that it satirizes generic brown shooters but it was released when generic brown shooters were already going out of style

I'm sure this sounded smart in your head when you wrote the game, Spec Ops dev.

From the wiki of 'that chapter'

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why would you play a third person modern shooter that was advertised to be another run of the mill raghead killing simulator then?

Who writes this shit

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How long do you think the "it's just a regular shooter" shtick lasted after it released?

Because Yea Forums touted it as something amazing. In retrospect, it was probably shills. Glad I pirated.

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There really is something about a needle going in your eye that brings up a primal kind of fear. I always wanted to look away when I got close to finishing that sequence in fear of messing up and having to watch that horror. Funny enough I've never once messed it up. The fear is still there though.