>war... war never changes
War... war never changes
Liam Ward
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Connor James
WW3 when?
Liam Thompson
Completely true statement you dumb frog posting faggot
Camden Butler
I mean what's the deal with that?
Carter Sanchez
>war has changed
Adam Johnson
>Frogposters
You know what to put in that options slot boys
Connor Jackson
Joshua Sanders
>war never changes
>go from stabbing each other with pointy sticks to nuclear bombs
>apparently this isn't a change
What did they mean by this?
Levi Harris
The invention of the nuke objectively changed how war is waged between countries with nukes.
Gabriel Brown
you're thinking of the process, strategies and tactics.
When you think of the consequences, it's always the same, innocents paying the price for the greed of governments.
Jack Thomas
Smart frog poster
Jackson Diaz
Fundamentals are still the same.
Charles Lewis
>the process, strategies and tactics.
So war has changed, and you've misspoke.
Isaac Taylor
>consequentialism
"No".
Hudson Green
>war never changes
>HAHA DUDE NUKES LMAOOOOOO
fuck bethesda
Tyler Mitchell
i'm not the user you're responding to. I'm just providing context when people say that statement. That's what they mean.
Jeremiah Wilson
I don't get it. What is consequentialism and why is it bad?
Jace Foster
Then there was no point to your post other than to inject semantics and backtrack when contradicted.
Nicholas Brooks
true, my point is the consequences of war don't change, but war itself certainly did multiple times.
Jason Perry
It's a philosophy and real easy to understand so let me use a phrase that you've most likely heard before.
>"The ends justify the means"
Obviously the ends do not justify the means just as lynching people is morally wrong. If I killed Hillary and her connections for her alleged sex crimes then it would be morally wrong. In fact, today's political climate is so tense that even accusations brings about rioting. Don't believe me? See the Mueller reports, Trump tax returns and its coverage.
The matter is that consequentialism is demoralizing for government and brings about riots and calls for revolution.
I looked up who said the original quote and apparently it's from fallout and not Metal gear solid as I originally thought. Interesting but since they both deal with nuclear warfare it makes sense.
Cooper Hall
Philosophy is a meme, especially ethics. None of it matters at all.
Wyatt Wilson
Why do you say that? I'm going to have to disagree with you.
Ayden Long
>Spartans never die
Nicholas Campbell
I see.
Yeah there were two quotes "war never changes" is from FO while "war has changed" is from MGS.
Likewise I think "the end justifies the means" is morally wrong. But at the same time, if I had an option to defend a moral value I would at least think of the bad consequences and exercise restraint. For example I would avoid using nuclear or biological weapons due to the catastrophe it inflicts on a population.