I'LL MAKE THE SACRIFICE!

You want some of this?
youtube.com/watch?v=G40caF929kg

It will be a silent spring!

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BEHOLD! THE BRINGER OF LIGHT

It was problematic when it first came out (2003, start of the Second Gulf War); only the difference between then and now is that EA thought they could use EDGY CONTROVERSY as a marketing strategy. Remember when they hired people to protest their God of War clone? Yeah, me neither, but it happened.
nbcnews.com/id/31125247/ns/technology_and_science-games/t/electronic-arts-stages-fake-game-protest-e/

Flash forward to today, and... really nothing has changed. EA still uses EDGY controversy to get free publicity, only now it's SJW controversy - like in their Battlefield WW2 whatever trailer, where the very first trailer was the worst thing they could have possibly shown to their core audience, but guess what giving people what they want to see apparently isn't newsworthy enough.

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>Tank that fires nuclear fireballs of death

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*gets sniped*

CHECK OUT OUR NEW TOW MISSILE.

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I BUILD FO CHINA

ITS BEEN REAL
LATERS

I'm sad that Shockwave mod is dead. The only good, actively updated mod for ZH nowadays is Contra, which is so broken balance wise that it's only good for skirmish.

Aged to perfection!
youtube.com/watch?v=NX5X329vOqM

MAKE MY OWN ROAD

I BUILD VAGINA

I agree. Devs went full on RotR and it's just meh..

Man... what the fuck even happened to America?? I remember recalling all throughout the 2000's of video games absolutely shitting-on and killing mudslimes from terrorist enemies to RTS suicide bomber units. When did they lose a spine?

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I guess it's the sjw shit

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When the progressives took over.
>conservative position: be fair to both sides
>progressive position: MY VISION OF THE FUTURE WINS AND EVERYONE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY LOSES
It's why SMAC is fucking amazing, and Beyond Earth is trash; despite both basically being diversity fests.

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seriously these guys were so fucking OP, I remember them tearing through my tanks as the US.

WE WILL LIVE IN PROSPERITY

Now turn into a car!

Just use flashbang

>we will never return to this level of low-key scifi comfy

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I always had a few pathfinders trail behind my tanks when playing GLA players
The terrorists weren't the issue, it was bomb trucks when they were strategically placed to not blow each other up when rushing several sides at once + high explosive.

>not being a bigoted fuckwit is far left loony SJWism

It really is impossible to have a discussion with you guys. When concepts like basic respect for your fellow human beings and not condemning entire religions and nations of people for the actions of a few is somehow "progressive" or "SJW".

Please explain how based Morgan is bigoted.

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Thanks for the new shoes

That's not the Scud launcher
>Shall I push the button?
>Something for the masses!
Or the Paladin tank
>Doing what's right
>Enemies of the Free world
American as fuck

Let's unpack this.

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fuck (you) you're not even respecting our opinion.
now fuck off bigot

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simple
people who worked on those kinds of media have retired or became sjws because having low test is a symptom of being old

what did westwood mean by this?

That GDI were mass murdering imperialists, obviously.

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> for the actions of a few
You do know that 89% of muslims agree that throwing gays off rooftops is just right?
They have a choice, join us in 2019 or be sent back to 84 BC.

Can I have some shoes?

You know the weird thing about GLA is that they're called GLOBAL Liberation Army when in fact they're just videogame generic middle-east insurgents
I believe in some timeline where Generals wasnt rushed and had decent production they are depicted as an actual worldwide paramilitary insurgent organization inspired by shit like FARC and IRA beyond just Taliban and Al-Qaeda except fighting for decent shit, or maybe not its not like legit armies actually fight for decent shit all the time anyway.

I have no doubts whatsoever it would cause tremendous outrage.

>no tow on any of the humvees
One fucking job, user.

In starcraft when you send one miner to scout the enmy base

You retards can't even follow your own words. Shut the fuck up and go back to resetera, you hypocritical cunt.

>You do know that 89% of muslims agree that throwing gays off rooftops is just right?

And most of Yea Forums would agree with them

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We could've have these. Fuck ea

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Those character designs did look fun, especially actually making the GLA a 'global' liberation front rather than just an Arab one, but it was never happening for two reasons:
1. Can't microtransaction the fuck out of single player RTS very good.
2. China would ban it just for having a less than glowing version of China in it.

If ea wasn't retarded making the game f2p and fucking around with the developers, we would gotten a proper C&C game since RA3

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>that one renegade game with titans and wolverines.

They're so dumb at EA.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks companies are using SJW shit to piss people off for free publicity.

twitch.tv/sankyoz/clip/EsteemedAstuteCobblerTTours

They're not dumb, they're just predatory. Whole strategy is 'buy successful developer, absorb all their IP and technology assets, bleed dry while forcing them to adhere to corporate whims, dispose of at the first sign of developer's popularity waning.' It's happened so many times it cannot be anything other than intentional.

This desu fuck niggers for actually thinking twitter mobs matter. Somehow we could easily just ignore tumblr but when they all migrated to twitter we now listen to them like they hold any weight.

>wtf bros why we treating them like people now?

Things change. Once the powers that be can no longer use shit like that to control the population, they change to something else. Right now it's SJW bullshit.

>Tfw you actually managed to play it on Gamescom
This game was literally done, why did they have to scrap it, reee

Just because they got a demo working doesn't mean it was 'done'. In alpha or early beta? Sure. But there were still serious bugs to patch out, and releasing it meant paying for servers and QA; so EA just said fuck it when they abandoned single player for the current ASSFAGGOTS/arena shooter/battle royale model.

They scrapped it literally a day before they were adding planes to the game too.
t. was in alpha

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Why is GLA such a fucking kino faction?

caricature of a terrorist cell that looped back around to making terrorism look cool

All of their units and the mechanics of their gameplay oozed so much personality that it almost made you want to root for terrorism.
I unironically think that they're still one of my favorite RTS factions of all time.

>I LOVE A CROWD!

jfc raimi

2008 happened

early 00s was the last era where ragheads can be shat on

It basically stopped around 2008-2010, just in time when operations were winding down in the ME

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I've never played a C&C game before, what are the best ones and what's the best way to play them?

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LET'S MAKE AN OASIS OF DEATH

That depends. Tibsun and RA2 are usually named as some of the best, after that Generals, Zero Hour and CnC3, Kane's Wrath (I separated the expansions with commas since they all have separate campaigns and you have to launch the vanilla version specifically in order to play the original campaign). There are hd mods for the old games (and generals) floating about, you can google them pretty easily. You could buy them on Origin I guess, but I'd prefer pirating.

Pirating isn't the hard part, getting it to work is

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Only problematic to white people and people who don't play video games.

Hey, I installed Zero Hour just few days ago what a coincidence. USA and China are still as boring to play as it was back in 2004. was making Muslim terrorist faction most fun to play intentional?

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Every single time I piss I mentally hear "LET LOOSE THE JUICE!"

dumb animeposter

USA is shit

>international GLA instead of just middle-eastern
That's fucking amazing.
Why couldn't we have this?

>power not required
im pretty sure yea

And stoning gays to death isn't bigoted? God you people are fucked in the head

>China not fun as fuck

I AM BIG

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They just don't have as much variety as GLA does. Same shit with NOD and Soviets. It's like devs really wanted players to root for underdog supposedly bad guys.

>soviets
>bad guys
Objectively the good guys in uprising.

>Soviets
>Underdog

Wasn’t there supposed to be another expansion where GLA invaded USA? I remember that was hinted at in ZH

>we will never get a mega C&C crossover game where all the factions are present
Fucking please.

>no bgm nostalgia fags
im shook
youtube.com/watch?v=KvSM1VKW0lM

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Niggers and nigger enablers like you are subhuman and will be the first to die on the day of the rope

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"Canon" ending are all always
>USA winning
>GDI winning
Except for Zero Hour, where China technically won

>Nod
>bad

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>easy is too easy
>normal is ball-bustingly hard
they did not balance this shit

IRON CURTAIN ACTIVATED

Soviet always has less variety than Allies though

>China themes
Like little babby.

Check this.
youtu.be/uPCKUfEW5f8?t=61

I'm specifically talking about Uprising, because Futuretech being wrecked is definitely the best outcome out of the campaigns.

It was even problematic back then. As a kid I never realised the amount of censorship

someone would firebomb EA the very next day.

The side will be evil white nationalist nazi USA, neutral China and EU good go..er guys.

What would contemporary RTS factions look like nowadays?

If the old was Axis vs. Allies
Or Allied vs. Soviets
Or USA/China/"definitely not middle eastern" Terrorists
etc.

What would the factions in today's world look like?

It would pretty much just be west vs russia and china.

I really like how the games plot is relevant to modern political landscape. No nukes flying yet but still.
Also post gla bingo units that were used by ISIS.

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Remind: Getting Zero Hour along with Generals is a must. Absolutely amazing expansion.

WARNING
ENEMY SCUD STORM DETECTED

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almost spit my fucking drink out

LOOK AT MY BEAUTIFUL WEAPON

I "like" EA as much as the next guy, but for fuck's sake, people. Were you fucking children, unaware of the world when these things happened?
Because it's obvious. EA would NEVER cancel a game based on quality grounds. The real reason there was the economy crash of 2008.
What could make lots of money back, no matter the way it does it, got pushed. Anything experimental or otherwise unsure of profit had to be thrown overboard to make sure the boat doesn't sink.

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That shouldnt have warranted a deletion

BOMBER TRUCK

CHINA HAS BIG GENERALS

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They're making a remaster you know.

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AY BIUID VAGINA

There was a good reddit post a year or two back from one of the devs that explained how fucked the whole development was and why it was DOA.

>tibsun
>named as "one of the best"
nah, it was pretty hated when it came out. it's only hipsters and zoomers that look back on it fondly.
RA2, Generals and C&C/RA1 were the only popular ones

The old games work easy. Most of them are free to download legit and have opensource engine shit to make them work natively in modern OS.
Also Origin has a C&C bundle that has every C&C game in it for $10 and they all work.

I mean Generals was also despised when it came out, shitty online and heavy deviation from classic CnC formula (no mcvs, worker units and so on) being the main reasons. Even mentioning Generals along other CnC games would send people into frothing rage about how it's not worthy of being called a CnC game at all.
But now people make nostalgic threads about how awesome it is, we are in one of those right now.

What the fuck you're talking about
Tiberian Sun was never hated on during its release. It was both critical and sale success. Decent graphics for its time, excellent cinematics, faction/units diversity, quality campaign, unique mechanics, etc.

When Obama got into office and started slush funding billions into leftist organizations. You'll notice it all started a year or two after he got elected.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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It always bugged me that it was a Crazy Ivan that suicide bombed Carville and not the actual Terrorist suicide bomb unit.

C&C made fun of America too, are you autistic?

i wish gog could sell a working version of general and the extension

Good thing RTS is dead. Making fun of the suffering of thousands of America was a terrible thing to do. I am really surprised nobody sued EA.

This. More then 6 thousand Americans died on the eleventh of November. Don't you people have any shame at all.

>chirac

why is he here ?
btw napoleon shouldnt be here alongside mussolini staline and hitler

AUF WIEDERSEHE-

Yeah, that's a shameful K/D ratio. When we dropped the nukes we got 0/80k. They could only get like 17/6000.

It's just people who have killed/caused to be killed the most people.

Nappy got a LOT of people killed with his upstart bullshit.

Chirac....I guess the guy sold Saddam a nuclear reactor. Not the best move.

Which one is the best girl?

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ra1 tanya and ra2 zofia in both haircuts

Suki

ugh.... just ugh
please bigots

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>americans (and factions based on americans aka GDI) always portrayed as squeaky clean goody two shoes (cnc3 tries to fix this by introducing lando, but fails since literally every other gdi character except this obvious black - heh - sheep is still absurdly nice and instantly condemns any wrongdoing lando caused)
>every game includes episodes of the american-opposing faction being pointlessly evil and cruel just to make sure that players don't accidentally sympathise with the wrong side

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The game would be considered racist for portraying the muslims as dangerous and sexist for not having any female terrorists.

Doesn’t fucking matter cause they’re all fucking the same guy.

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Not a problem sweaty, GLA are no longer arab-only (and they had no references to islam even in their original incarnation (if we get really anal they weren't even that arab outside of their visual style, as their headquarters were in ex-soviet central asia)) and they also hire women.

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Saudi Arabia decapitated a 23 year old last week for sending a text message to his friend about possibly going to a protest

Problem is they forgot that you're supposed to piss off people OUTSIDE of your target audience, not your actual target audience.

Let me help you out with that, my man.

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>it's a righties pretend to give a shit about gays to score points against muslims episode

Why is there a black guy with the US background in the Chinese row?

You give less of a shit until it's pointed out to you.

Maybe they did use it as a "gotcha" moment, but it kinda works since your lot NEVER cares about that until you're made to care.

Guess you'll be voting Democratic, then.

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>US
Those are yuros, amerifats got wrecked in Zero Hour to the point of abandoning their world-policing ambitions and returning to isolationism, remember?
But yeah, someone put the black guy into the wrong row.

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God, it's been years. I don't even remember a campaign in Zero Hour, just that Commander Gauntlet where you fight a bunch of dudes and then that Japanese shit who had access to all units and shit. And of course I've never finished that either.

Fucking sneaky vermin.

well, they still banned it in germany tough
(so they made a german-version as a response)

>November 11th
>November

Never forget the 11th of November when Guy Fucks burned down the White House for the King of England.

>They won't breach my wall, it'll take them a minute to make a dent.
>Petard: hold my beer.

>Tiberian Sun was never hated on during its release.

That's bull-fucking-shit.

>2000 - trashheap
arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1056080
>2003 - still a trashheap
ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66705
>2006 - people still remembering just how bad the game was
forums.anandtech.com/threads/so-i-started-playing-tiberian-sun-firestorm-again-forgot-how-much-it-sucked.1898666/

I could go on and on, but I don't have all day long to show people born in '99 what people rightfully thought of it.

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I vaguely remember people talking about generals 2 alpha or beta content being leaked and some modders were working on it. I wonder what came of that.

A bunch of Chinese mods for Red Alert 3, C&C3 and Generals which use those models, but downscaled in the respective games.

None of them ever went anywhere.

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Speaking about Tib Sun
I've heard a lot of features were cut from it. What were they?
The soundtrack and atmosphere is still kino. Didn't like the shift in TB back to TD.

Playing blocky low poly 3D c&c games.
RA1, 2 and dune 2000 is where its at.

cnc.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_content_(Tiberian_Sun)
> lighting system which made units in the dark have decreased accuracy amongst other things, never implemented into the game
pretty interesting, considering there was day and night cycle if i recall

youtube.com/watch?v=u6_Gh7CWqaw
45:30

>quite literally posting first results that pop up on Google when searching for "Tiberiun Sun hate"
>not even reading through the posts, that it's just either stubborn, short-sighted, pseudo-nostalgia-ridden fucks sounds familiar mate? or quite simply nitpicking things like mby psbly lack of innovation
>which is fucking stupid considering the advanced mechanics and gameplay possibilities
Yeah, sure mate, the hate is fucking real
It's not like it was the fourth highest grossing game of 1999 and got universal critical and public acclaim

>I've heard a lot of features were cut from it. What were they?

Bucketloads of units, 3D graphics (buildings were supposed to be 3D as well), campaign unit carry-over (think Homeworld), day and night cycles, naval units and gameplay, an advanced lighting engine, 3rd faction,...

And a lot of these were pushed in marketing bullshots, no less. Westwood basically killed themselves with that game and it was a large part of the reason why they never made an RTS ever again.

youtube.com/watch?v=S-VAL7Epn3o

>and got universal critical and public acclaim

It did not, is the thing.
These guys were voicing the general consensus online. Just like Dawn of War 2 and 3 got raving reviews only to get shit on continuously by the community.

>Nuh'uh people loved it!
Yeah, that's why they kept reminding themselves of just how atriocious it was for 7 years straight. It was quite certainly the biggest RTS disaster for a long time, so much so that Tiberian Wars developers backpedalled on all Tiberian Sun aspects to appease the community and unfuck the Tiberian franchise.

Go take that dildo you're currently chocking on and fuck off back to whatever circlejerk forum you came from, and take your idiotic revisionism with you.

I was expecting 'hello guys, spirit of the law here.' kinda disappointed.

>And a lot of these were pushed in marketing bullshots, no less. Westwood basically killed themselves with that game and it was a large part of the reason why they never made an RTS ever again.
Sounds like Kojumbo/Konami situation. I guess they overestimated themselves.

AAAAAUAAAGH

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I love this dude's videos. I don't know why youtube recommended them to me, since I've never watched anything AOE2 related, but I'm really glad they did.

youtube.com/watch?v=MEdPQzNvfSc

This is my favorite, it's like watching an opera or a greek tragedy or something play out in front of you. It's long as fuck, but worth it for that moment about an hour and 10 minutes in.

Jesus Christ, put some effort in, this is pathetic
People can't even bait properly nowdays ffs, just throwing obscenities around to trigger people you niggerfaggot

>which is so broken balance wise that it's only good for skirmish
And that's a good thing

Based.

Wish he'd revisit a few old Civs tho, some of his overviews are outdated.

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Agree with you on generic Muslim hate but the Saudis are evil dog fuckers and anyone who sympathises with them are part of the real problem

forum.quartertothree.com/t/tiberian-sun-sucks-why/27830
>2006
>"I started with TS since it is universally panned but I can’t stop playing it."

I mean, yeah. I hacked into the forums and put these words into peoples' mouths, mate.
The wide consensus was that Tiberian Sun is GOTYAY of all year and the best thing since sliced bread. It was so successful that Westwood made 5 sequels expanding on the ruined alien Earth idea and made each and every one of them progressively more distopian...
And then you wake up with wet pants, hugging your waifu pillow with that butch-looking mutant girl on it.

It's interesting to see why tiberian sun didn't turn out well.

SEARCH AND DESTROY

BOMBARDMENT

Oh wow, you're still going. I'm gonna be kind and give this precious (You)
>... that Westwood made 5 sequels ...
>Westwood
I mean, it makes me kinda sad, but you just gotta keep on givin' don't ya
Just in the very improbable case you're not actually baiting:
collateralities =/= consequences, learn history of EA and Westwood, actual statistics and public/critical opinions, read through the links you posted so far and please, just fucking think before posting

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>Critically Acclaimed.
Are you feeling it? Cause I'm feeling it.
Fuckers deserved it for scamming people like that and I won't let a fucking child try and cover up for them simply because Reddit or some dumbfuck C&C fansite told him to.

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>You now remember that House MD chick was in C&C 3.
How did they do it? She was quite popular at the time.

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Are you actually unable to read English?
Did Ivans in the disintegrating Russia love TibSun, perchance? Horrible taste and suicuidal attitudes coupled with a boner for post-apocalyptic shlock seem right up your alley.

Pfff, I am so happy that Generals 2 died.
I hate this cartoonish style.
As cartoonish as the first one was, at least they used live actors and did not go full anime fantasy.

Ah yes. So much critical acclaim!
eurogamer.net/articles/2000_1
>Ultima IX might have been kicked out the door before it was ready, and Command & Conquer : Tiberian Sun may have been something of an anti-climax for many people, but generally 1999 has been a great year for gamers.

youtube.com/watch?v=_Elv6JnD9mw&t

Is the fact that every Cameron-lusting-fan gets cockblocked by blondie Aussie one of the greatest Strayan shitposts ever achieved?

>only now it's SJW controversy - like in their Battlefield WW2 whatever trailer
>REEEE THERE'S A FEMALE IN MY VIDEO GAME REEEE
I never understood the collosal butthurt everyone got from that.

Jokes on you Cameron ends with some random guy and Chase becomes the new House with the IMAGINE asian.

Why anti-sjw all of a sudden claimed video games as their territory and think they’re the target audience all of a sudden?
Target audience are children, not 20 something edgelords

very
sjw are cancer

The thing I understood the least was that people cared in the slightest about Battlefield's singleplayer, but I guess I lost touch with the series once it went full CoD competitor.

Wtf, I love muslims now!?

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based slimes

>Completely abandoning realistic art style
>Black Euro general
I don't even need a third reason. Generals 2 would have disappointed me

>Select Laser General
>Turtle Mode Activate!
>nothing but Laser Turrets and Powerplants
>Eventually start building Ion Cannons galore
>you will take a hit from your opponents super weapon at least once
>but place your powerplants spread out enough where the damage is minimal and quickly rebuilt
>5 ion cannons ready to go
>unleash laser hell

didn't even need a unit.

youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM

S
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KANE LIVES

>not even giving replies anymore
You're genuinely mad, aren't you. I mean, while it ain't healthy for neither of us, what the hell, I'll play the charade
>something of an anti-climax
How does it make it bad?
Also:
gamespot.com/reviews/command-and-conquer-tiberian-sun-review/1900-2538386/
gamespot.com/command-and-conquer-tiberian-sun/reviews/command-and-conquer-tiberian-sun-review-2538386/
ign.com/articles/1999/09/04/command-conquer-tiberian-sun
And also check the pic

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youtube.com/watch?v=4saQchkrsM0

The problem is people bought Generals, and no one bought the new Battlefield.

>when you hose down a crowd of ragheads with napalm or neurotoxins

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>arabic metal starts playing
>gives your infantry super aids
psshh nothin personnel infidel

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CHINA HAS BIG GENITALS

Motherfucker was holding back his laugh.

>game comes out today
>endless threads on Yea Forums crying about china and arabs being a playable faction
>endless bitching about china being the "good guys" in the campaign
I hate this board.

Has anyone played Red Alert 2 Mental Omega?
Id highly recommend it for fans, though if you've never played before dont start with the mod. Its hard as shit, I still can't beat some of the campaign missions. New units are fucking sweet, and as the Allies its a nonstop 'OH FUCK JESUS CHRIST HOW CAN I KILL ALL THESE DAMN COMMIES" for the entire campaign. Then Yuri comes out and is an absolute shithead. Playing as Russia and actually commanding you, yes you the player, as a General unit who was freed by Yuri's mind control in Washington by some comrades, you've got to escape and fight back against Yuri as he turns the entire world.

I want to say it moves the RA2 timeline from the 60s-70s to the late 80s early 90s, so we've got Abrams tanks and other neato stuff.

I liked Red Alert 3
It had great music
youtube.com/watch?v=rgKqvVLl5sA

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who /general jizz/ here?

Americans still hate Muslims, we're just kinda cooling off and getting bored of them.

Red alert 3 was too small, the maps and the camera felt odd. Though there was a good mod for that was really fun, mixed up the campaign and such. Can't remember what it was called.

It had faults, sure, but I still found it fun and charming in it's own way. I know some people found the over the top silliness to be off putting but I personally loved every second of it. It's not like RA has been a serious series ever, especially after RA 2.

>Enemies of the Free world
Jesus fuck I forgot how non-subtle the game was

PRESERVING FREEDOM

*dabs in tank general*

youtube.com/watch?v=YeVXbpIh-fM

It was fun and charming, I never had an issue with that. Just some of the mechanics I disliked. RA was great because of RA2s decision to go full camp

Jenny McCarthy, duh

>General reviews.
>For a game published by EA.

Did you fucking lose your mind?
Also, those numbers are perfectly in line with the critic reviews for Dawn of War 3.
Check for yourself if you don't believe me.
metacritic.com/game/pc/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-iii/critic-reviews

So yeah. Have fun with your "As great as Dawn of War 3!" game and keep living in your imagined world where everyone is wrong, but you and the paid-off reviews.
You know, made by the same people who have all claimed to have played the game the bullshots were presenting to us and which turned out to not even exist.

This conversation is over. I'll let other anons judge which side was right.
Also, you quoted someone else with Gen2. Just a FYI.

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I personally disliked the support power system tremendously, as many of those powers were fucking bullshit in how powerful they were.
Looking at the fucking allied time bomb.

>Generals predicted ISIS

It was a good game.
USA, China and Europe duking it out with various tactics and strategies, fighting for world hegemony.
A simpler time.

>WHO ARE THEY? PROTESTORS?
>when given the order to run over enemies

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I see what you did there

I BUILD VAGINA

Kane?

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IMHO, RA2 in the golden zone, being cartoonish but also having connection to realism.
The flying bears in RA3 just put me off :)

FOUR ON THE FLOOR

wasnt that cool

drones too kinda

>they shouldn't stand in our way
>the voice
Fuck I love this game's voice acting

I personally found the Empire of the Rising Sun to be a welcome addition to the series especially with the over the top anime bs the devs went with.

I may also be biased because I just love the music of that faction.
youtube.com/watch?v=42CK0JSf0I8
youtube.com/watch?v=WoDVVRHGEBE

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Pirating Kane's wrath with a zipped version of TW is the real problem.

>what the fuck even happened to America??
planes flew into their trade centers

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Generals challenge on easy is really braindead, they barely ever attack and the countdown on the superweapons of the last boss is one fucking hour. Normal can get tricky but mostly you can always just hole up and kill the enemy with massed superweapons.
AFG with Superweapon was a real ball buster. He rushes you with a carpet bomb, king raptors and a paradrop a few minutes in and all you can do it spam EMP patriots and hope a few missiles will get past the point defense lasers. Then I installed the patch and you get Avengers for cheaper and without strategy center, and he no longer does the carpet bomb. I was so mad

Tiberian Sun tanked Westwood Studios and killed the mainline C&C series for many years

completely impossible

It really saddens me that people choose to experience one of the best RTS games of all time by playing the awful, tacked-on afterthought of a single player campaign
Generals was a multiplayer game, even the best RTS campaigns can't hold a candle to playing against another human

why should I play tank general again, when nuke general's tanks are like twice as fast and his overall arsenal isn't cucked

Yeah, actually
I liked them too

Sorry mate, even if you're sincere, I just gotta make another post:
>game journalism and marketing funding is the same in 1999 as in the 2017
Yeah, naah
Also following your logic; should we then disregard good scores by general reviews for games like RA2, which I guess just "happen" to be good? I dunno if this precedent of scepticism beyond any measure is healthy
There's also quite a different gap in release dates for the reviewer/user comparison sake; 3 years for C&C titles, while DoW2 and DoW3 is 8 years
Aye, thanks mate, I fucked up with the reply
You coulda fucking replied in the first place to my posts tho. Wouldn't happen otherwise

It's true that it had plenty of reasons to be disliked back when it came out, but in retrospective it doesn't look bad at all. Which speaks volumes about how far the series have fallen after that.
it's also weird to me that you focus so hard on hating tibsun while giving generals a free pass. At least tibsun played like a cnc game.

TibSun got good reviews and sales because people expected it to be good, not because it was actually good

Yeah i fucking love mental omega too, i also love how the final missions are massives "we will charge straigh to our deaths so we can defend the last bastion of hope arriving in 5 minutes."

I really miss C&C generals
yeah...
couldnt be made today sadly.
based GLA just have to be shit like zerg or something.

I'm not that guy, stop putting half your posts in spoilers like a faggot. Tiberian Sun played like complete shit, that's why it was a bad game, but you're a casual player who probably only plays the campaign so you wouldn't know anything about what makes an RTS good in the first place

>America army 2
fuck i miss being a kid, this game and wolfenstein enemy territory was the bomb for me, is the game alive or something like ET these days or it's no man land now

:^(

RISE UP

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>good go..er guys.
yep...

>red alert
another c&c reference!
nice camofluage

That's someone else, again.

We're not the only 2 in this thread, you know.

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kek saved

that actually looks pretty good for an android game

multiplayer killed rts

>eleventh of November.
Remember, Remember, the 11th of November
>ra1 tanya
this,

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multiplayer made rts
singleplayer rts games are braindead experiences that barely deserve to be called a video game

>naval units and gameplay
TS engine can't support naval units though, or you gonna tell me they just rewrote the whole thing when they found out that they can't add naval warfare.

THE BLACK HAND HAS ARRIVED

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these concepts sucks, 4 of those masks looks like monkey masks while the rest looks like shitty raider masks and 2 look from star wars, more concep art?

>TS engine can't support naval units though
have you played Red Alert 2?

>refugee camp
>not enough cp
sharia law when? soon enough homos are outlawed and all the damn women drivers will be off the road! :^)

Ah, so that's why RTS literally died the moment Multiplayer became a widespread thing.

Super serial competitive "e-sports" focused multiplayer killed RTS games.

Nobody besides koreans and autists want to focus their lives around being super good at a fucking videogame just so that they can play online with other people.

Starcraft was the cancer that killed RTS genre.

>NOD gets the weakest infantry in the game
>also the most powerfull infantry in the game

how can they do it? damn black hand loyalty to Kane defeat even the machines.

>the moment Multiplayer became a widespread thing.
you mean when Starcraft 1 came out? Yeah that definitely killed RTS games

I hope that Soviets will meme it to victory

That's pretty normal for Asian-made (Chinese and Malays, i.e. muslim Indonesians) mobile games.

How do i run this on windows 10, had no luck

True servants of the Messiah get the best gear.

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Kane did nothing wrong.

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>It had great music
they all do.
the other ones also have good gameplay.

See

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RA 3's gameplay was decent enough, though it had obvious problems like the bs support powers and slow as fuck economy.

Is it done, Yuri?

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I need more military games set in the 90s

RA2 is not TS, just because they made it possible in later engine doesn't retroactively make it possible in the ealier one, and again, have you seen any naval units in TS?

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Generals 2 looks like it would have made the GLA more inclusive to westerners and such.

No. That's the entire point, mate.
Did you not read the original post? user asked about stuff that was promised by the developers which didn't show up on release.
Naval gameplay was one of those things.

I don't think you understand how game engines work
RA2 was built on the same engine as Tiberian Sun

>t. Kane's media ninja.

>RA2 was built on the same engine as Tiberian Sun
Except that it has enourmously larger functionality and in recent years has been modded with ARES to remove a good portion of its limitations, the "same engine" TS haven't changed a bit and everything that was a problem 20 years ago is still here.

HOLD THE LINE
LOVE ISN'T ALWAYS ON TIME

well why would you mod the older version of the engine when you could mod the newer one
the point is saying "TS engine can't support naval units" is kind of an arbitrary thing to say
There's no hard limitation on the software that says it can't, they just didn't do it

>airburst VIED
noice

CARTER HERE

>Finally, congratulations to the EA Marketing Team, who have made sure that despite its lukewarm contents, this game will enjoy massive sales.

Goddammit, I miss GamePro.

I still listen to the soundtrack from time to time, absolute kino.

youtube.com/watch?v=1OGYAnEQr-4
youtube.com/watch?v=Byj1_Eushig
youtube.com/watch?v=t1wme2XcpaQ

This is my favorite RTS of all time and one of my favorite games. This game had some massive fucking balls to come out when it did, to come out at all really, sadly i think there's no way it would have been made today. It's still trippy that's an EA game.

>OUR LAND MUST BE PRESERVERED!

GLA is the best faction simply because of the lulz and the OST.

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>the point is saying "TS engine can't support naval units" is kind of an arbitrary thing to say
I isn't "arbitrary" when over the almost two decades of opportunity nobody done in it even if "supposedly" it could be, the only time I've ever seen naval gameplay was Dawn of the Tiberium Age, and some very odd unit behavior and inability to add naval transports leads me to believe that it is nothing more than a very in-depth workaround that still can't function properly within the engine.

A thousand times this. RTS games were great when you played campaign or went in for some comp stomp with your bros, or 2v2d your bros. But as soon as MAAAAJOOOR LLLLLEEAAAAGUUUEEE GAAAAAYMAAAN SPORTS MAN! took over RTS shot itself in the head. Campaigns died, gameplay became based around heavy micro and build orders to the exclusion of everything, and simple rock paper scissors counters took precedent because of the pace of online matches.

It was problematic at the time. Germany replaced all the units with robots.

The campaign in Generals is great you idiot

youtube.com/watch?v=5rTK_DZG-oE

spent some time digging this video back up for this thread, the bitterness starts 30 seconds in

Modders do not have the same abilities as developers do. Developers have the source code to a game engine and can modify it in whatever way they see fit. Modders are forced to live with the features that are already there

Yeah because sitting in your base and spending half an hour building a huge blob of units and attack moving them into the enemy base was so much better

I unironically miss the fuck yeah murrica shit back then. You guys were obnoxious, in a bizarrely cool way. Until you got the gay.

is there a patched version of Zero hour I can download that works on windows 10?

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Generals was actually a parody of America, Fuck Yeah!
It caught the spirit wonderfully, though. Down to the US soundtrack being the most generic US Army saves the day theme that was omnipresent in movies at the time.

Unironically yes it was. But I wouldn't expect a brainlet like you to understand that just because you have larger forces doesn't mean strategy and tactics go out the window, just that the scale increases. Where a small unit of armor would attack infantry, now its an armor division assaulting along the line, where a helicopter or paradrop of a squad behind enemy lines turned into a full scale multi battalion airmobile invasion.

But hey, attack move and see what happens my friend.

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I like how the framing device of C&C is that you're some random punk that managed to get a hold of the military equivalent of Skype.

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>just because you have larger forces doesn't mean strategy and tactics go out the window
It does actually
The skill and strategy in RTS games comes from managing limited units and economy to attack and defend. Maxing your unit cap with no resistance requires no strategy or skill. Economy of attention exists and you're not going to make a genius-level strategic play with that bigass army, you're going to blob it at your enemy. Strategy and tactics are something that needs to unfold over time

Objectively wrong and proved by high level supcom and wargame play but hey man believe what you want.

I wonder why Harmony Gold didn't sue them

DR.MOBIUS
IM GDI

High level supcom gameplay is 20-min no rush max your population cap then attack? Lol
Here's the guy telling me he misses campaigns and comp-stomps talking to me about high-level play

they went against hasbro earlier and got shit canned by them, now they're afraid to go against bigger companies after that

>Hitler
>Saddam
>Ghadafi
>etc
>high scorers

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Alright pleb, believe what you want and enjoy your moba garbage.

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Prove me wrong then, show me how tactical it is to play a game with absolutely no counterplay where you just build a massive army and then win or lose in 5 minutes

RA3 is a game from 2008. The Hasbro case happened in 2013.

It was 2008. They, just like any company outside of China were going through an existential threat with the stock market crashing.
Any lawsuit would result in a bankruptcy.

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1. Can't microtransaction the fuck out of single player RTS very good.
Single player wasnt even planned until people complained so much that EA had to announce it
2. China would ban it just for having a less than glowing version of China in it.
They dont care as long as you arent trying to accurately depict their recent history i think
Generals was banned over a minor naming issue they could've fixed in localization but China is that retarded sometimes

Why even bother? Iv already laid out that scale doesnt equal less strategic or tactical options and compisition, simply that it changes the size of counters and thrust. Iv provided examples like wargame and supcom. You've made up your mind so whats the point. You know you're right and im wrong, I know im right and you're wrong.

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I wasn't talking about scale
I was talking about sitting in your base maxing your population cap for one big attack, has no strategy because it involves no counterplay, a logical point

I always though it was earlier than that. But yea, suing in 2008 would be a death sentence for a company, let alone for a property management company

And I never spoke explicitly about that. I was always arguing for large scale and you interrepted that as sitting in your base and maxing your population. However the reality is, in a game for example like supcom. If you sit in your base, turtle and simply max your cap. You are going to get fucking spanked. For one your economy is going to be garbage without expanding or conversely you'll be building power and resource generators. So you're sitting maxing resources for your max army, presumably T3 or else you're forces are going to get steamrolled as a t1 bot might as well be spitting at a T3 bot in terms of damage.

Well the enemy has expanded, formed a defensive line around their choke points of valuable territory, has been building superweapons such as nukes, has experimentals, and aircraft. You're base is attacked, bombers burst your shields and hit one of your generators, causing a chain reaction. wiping out your power and resource generator. Your build order slows to a crawl. Enemy forces who are less in number but more varied with tactical support attack and overwhelm your base and destroy you.

Go into any massive scale RTS game with the mentality you can sit in your base and max out unit cap then attack move at the enemy and you will lose, hands down, every time. Blobbing in games designed for "blob" tier scale will get you destroyed.

>I was always arguing for large scale
well I wasn't and I made the initial post so what the fuck are you talking about

That is a strategy by itself
And just because you're too shit at the game to think of a counter doesnt means one doesnt exists

It's a strategy, a very simple one, and is simply countered by attacking your opponent before they're ready, in which case they'll ragequit because you're "being a tryhard"
People who play RTS games like that are extremely bad at the game

>tanya is now an anti-vaxx boomer

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>Supcom FAF
DEAD GAME

Enjoy playing only on Setos/Wonder/Stella shitter

Unironically Obama

>that guy giving the horns in the Humvee

>preserving freedom
>protecting our people
>while invading some raghead shithole on the other side of the globe that has done nothing to you
what did he mean by this?

>preserving (Israeli) freedom
>protecting (((our))) people

Buger retarded "police of the world" ideology

>got my nigger launcher right here
how did c&c get away with this

goddman how can you ruin the fucking apoc tanks?

Yeah no other video game will have the balls to add a terrorist faction that you can play as without backstabing them or trying to portray them as some brown angels.

(((They))) won't know their money is missing.

The game was subtle as fuck user, are you some kind of moron?
>GLA start doing terrorism in a small scale around asia and eastern europe
>then proceeds to invade mainland europe and destroy american bases
>also managed to sneak inside american territory and destroy a whole city

What i love the most about generals is how the 3 factions have their good sides and bad sides, sure GLA is the most evil of the 3 followed by China but still have a valid reason to go to war, the problem is their generals leading them.

Zealous anti-vaxxers are bad. Zealous vaxxers equally so.

>that's about it

But that's all it needed for the world to cry about it until it's decimated into the smallest atom

Most wars have a "valid reason" for their beginning/escalation.
Except WWII. "Defending Poland" was not a valid excuse and never was.

Who? Kari?

Defending a soverign country isn't a excuse for war?

Not when you only defend it against one of the invaders and ally with the other.

>Except WWII. "Defending Poland" was not a valid excuse and never was.
Funny you say that, because the soviet invasion of Poland was the start of the WWII in red alert 1 with the germans being the leaders of the armies.

>there are people on this board who unironically root for GDI

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Where is your god now GDI?

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Reap the whirlwind

nice try but that's a cybran warship

didnt they use pigs in this one?

Its a particularly good game because both main teams are bad but does essential good things now and then.

GDI
>By the elites, for the elites (bad)
>Actually fixed the deteriorating climate (good)

Nod
>Led by a madman bent on world domination (bad)
>Gives hope and purpose to the masses in times of crisis (good)

German version was ROBOT version.

>Led by a madman bent on world domination (bad)

kane is rational, objective and entirely correct by any measure

>Hurr lets turn everyone into retarded muties

>hurr lets turn everyone into useless unarmed civilians before the SCRIN arrives

This is your brain on GDI.

so that must be from some other game then.

He's Hitler on speed. Puts too much value in his superweapons, which also ends up being his doom each time.

the gdi are bigger on wunderwaffen than NOD are

t. James Earl Jones

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Cyborg army was, ironically enough, only activated after the SCRIN invasion that GDI managed to defeat, albeit with enourmous civilian casualties.

GLA only started to launch attacks on American soil after their intervention operations abroad.

Why was EA so based back then? How did it go so wrong?

The GDI are into superweapons as a deterrence, mainly their Ion Cannons and Nod develops technology to counter this. Kane is into superweapons that go too far most of the time. Cyborgs/LEGION particularly comes to mind.

Goddammit, I hate suicide enemies in games so much.

Didn't the GLA start their operations in China or at least Chinese occupied territory?

see
I'm proud user

*Ahem
FUCK GDI
FUCK McNeil
FUCK Shiners
FUCK Europe
FUCK Traitors

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Reminder that C&C4 IS canon n Kane loves GDI!

>The GDI are into superweapons as a deterrence

lol

kane pls

sarajevo is in europe

you know this

I phrased that poorly. The GDI are into superweapons they can control and use against anyone who threatens their power. Kane is into superweapons that have a mind of their own and too powerful for mankind.

All according to keikaku

Fuck bros, why was Generals so good?

>explosives GLA
>get the general upgrade that lets you spawn a squad of basic soldiers anywhere
>rush a bike into friends base over mountains or whatever odd terrain for line of sight
>spawn them around a weak enough building (airfield or lower, bonus if its a full airfield)
>detonate them before they even finish appearing
and thats the story of how all my friends got really mad and me stop playing GLA.

Gentlemen,
it's a nuclear device

t-t-time is running out

>cyborg
Red zone make them pretty necessary
>LEGION
Having a loyal AI to keep the backstabbing cunts in your chaotic organization in line helps

>play air general
>click 4 buttons
>3/4ths of the enemy base disappears into thin air
Free one-clicks were the biggest cancer imaginable, at least in cnc3 they pulled enough braincells together to tie them to tech level and make em cost money. Then in RA3 they went full retard again and gave Allies the Criogeddon - a free fucking superweapon. It wasn't as bad as generals one-clicks, but it was still pretty bad.

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>I must go my planet needs me

Wtf EA?

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>that mammoth tank

Is the little things.

>first tib war
>large crystal tiberium formations
#notmyprophet

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god you little faggots are so annoying

youtube.com/watch?v=bRWOFEpskZ8 LET'S GIVE EM AN AIRSHOW!

>Four on the floor

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Are c&c3 and ra3 worth playing? I stopped playing c&c after zero hour but I still have the first decade installed since I love the games. I know I shouldn't bother with 4 at least.

Yeah, cnc 3 is good, maybe even great, ra 3 is at least decent.

man-sized crystals ocured pretty much immediately. tibdaw harveseters are not small machines

For you.

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The attitude of that cunt
Seriously, guy didn't give a shit, like he has gone through Afghanistan, Chechnya, Jugo and Iraq

c&c 3 is the best c&c

Well he had the most powerfull weapon of the GLA arsenal user, of course he doesn't gave a shit about you.

if ww2 era anti-aircraft guns on a truck are the most powerful unit in the Generals universe why aren't the USA and China using them too

RA3 is okay but just that. It's disappointing compared to its predecessors.

>tfw could never ever play empire on gamespy since every fuck on the ladder would switch to allies and vindicator rush
there was a spiteful chink or gook on the dev team somewhere

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!

>USA

not expensive enough

>china

gatling guns date to the 1800s

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[dirty laughter intensifies]

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Gotta work through that defence budget somehow.

I remember seeing this unit when I was like 13 or some shit and having my eyes widen.

I laughed, but still. Goddamn.

Wow, for some reason i'd been led to believe that c&c 3 was trash.

who would win
>a highly advanced superweapon system consisting of a surface-fired particle cannon reflected on target by an orbital mirror
>a nuclear missile
or
>a ramshackle collection of 9 barely working Scud missiles leaking anthrax

Kikes started believing their own communist garbage.

That is the truth midst all the meme answers.

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F@cking this! NO, you cannot blow my modern tanks up with your shitty ZU cannons. The only more ridiculous thing was the damn Arabian wedding mowing my troops down. But at least at that point I was laughing.

Both are great.

A word of warning, RA3 invented RTS Co-op, though. So if you want to play that game's campaign, it is absolutely recommended to get that to work (original game used GameSpy) somehow.
You could play solo but that turns it into a generic RTS campaign of ~15 missions or so with a dumb AI at your side and full arsenal access.

Obviously, getting expansions for both is a no-brainer. Kane's Wrath adds shitloads of factions and a great NOD campaign. Uprising is singleplayer focused with all SP-only units used in a challenging set of missions, as well as a General's Challenge-like mode.

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>F@cking this

where the fuck did you come from and how do we make you fuck off back there

>lol lets make every chinese carry a portable minigun to rape the american air force

What was it with generals and their obsession with bullets?

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Because shoving a few dudes with rocket launchers into a humvee followed by search and destroy works just as well. It does take far more effort to kite shit with them though, you can't just a-click like you do with the AP ammo quads

RA1 Tanya

moar

As long as you don't publicly apologize you're literally untouchable.

I usually play c&c with a friend of mine on my home network, so long as gamespy's death doesn't fuck the lan up then rts co-op sounds fucking awesome.
Are the expansions standalone?

>every american player, any general, just forgets about MBTs and spams rockvees
that shit stinks like a GLA tactic

Well, Zero Hour was rushed and unfinished, wasn't it?
I would rather ask what's up with gibing tanks nuclear engines or the wedding guys ?

I think Uprising is stand-alone, but I'm not sure.
Kane's Wrath definitely isn't.

Hower, the former would mean you miss out on the co-op action and the latter has a really lengthy GDI and NOD campaign worth going through (and a shorter unlockable Scrin one) that's not in KW.

The co-op campaign issue is that it was online only. If you want to LAN it up, you'll have to look up a solution. IIRC, it was possible to simply play the individual maps through LAN Skirmish.
Still, it could be a pain to set up, hence why I'm telling you it's worth the effort in the end.

Toughs on the giant mammoth?

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>wedding guys
What's up with them? Angry mob isn't particularly great. It's very slow and it melts in seconds against any dedicated anti-infantry weapon. USA gets snipers (which can be put into humvees) and flashbangs, China gets fire and many ways of it's delivery, GLA has toxins and quads with superior range. If angry mob does manage to slowly waddle over to their target they'll absolutely destroy it though.

utterly retarded

>rocket buggy spam
is there a single more frustrating tactic?

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Classic design still unrivaled
Normal mammoth strikes a sweet spot of being ridiculous, but still kinda somewhat plausible and that's what makes it feel awesome. All the giant mammoths they tried (two of them) just look stupid.

We need a modern remake of this game in Total War style.

Why the fuck would you put a tiberium processing plant on a tank? Or any vehicle you intend to use for combat? Wouldn't that space/weight be more effectively allocated to armor or like a fucking shield generator or something?

the purpose of the GDI is to funnel money to the MIC

Are players who just want to sperg out on some dumbass AIs in skirmish for half an hour really that rare? That's what I loved Generals and the second generation for.

scrubs like that are the core rts playerbase and a failure to cater to them is why the genre is as dead as it is

Don't worry, you're the overwhelming majority.

>Why the fuck would you put a tiberium processing plant on a tank?
To roll over the enemy tiberium plants and leave them poor while you destroy their plants user.
>shield generator

That's SCRIN technology we don't allow that here.

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>Why the fuck would you put a tiberium processing plant on a tank?

It's a mobile plant with a tank put on it, mate.
The campaign explains these things as the solution to the problem of clearing tiberium in the Scrin-infested red zones, where either the tiberium life forms or the Scrin would kill regular harvesters.