Hop in kid! We're making Final Fantasy great again!

>Hop in kid! We're making Final Fantasy great again!

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show your pits first

Can we stop by flavor town?

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i'll have a number 9

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Reminder when you pick up a 4k monitor to replay FFXIII, it looks incredible in 4k.

Impossibru. Last good ff was X

She has sex in her car

This

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Light is pure you disgusting degenerate!

Sazh fucked Lighting it's in a data log, go read them. Also Vanille

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lies

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>>>/fanfictiondotnet/

Imagine getting a mouthful of her pink pubes wouldn't that suck haha...

No go read the data logs it's in there

But you're the very reason it went to shit.

No thats XV you are thinking of

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So did the japanese like Lighting or something? I remember a lot of people hating her game but SE put her in a lot of cross promotions

People that were 12 when FFXIII came out are now posting on Yea Forums. It was their first FF game so they think it's good.

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White people can be popular in countries where there's no white people

Mainline FInal Fantasy were never good. Sure, they were pleasant to play, but the story was always shit.
Don't (You) me.

i love lightning

FFXIII's environments really are beautiful.
It's a shame the game won't let you fucking explore most of them. Though I suppose that's the trade-off they made.

pls mommy ffxv was so bad

...

15 said the same thing and look at how that mess turned out

No, it's XIII. XV is shit as well, if that makes you feel any better.
Funny, it was my first FF game that I played when I was 17. I could not believe this series had a following so large and dedicated. I've since identified it as "Square Enix Syndrome," it is a condition that, regardless of how bad SE fucks up a franchise or a game, fans are still willing to forgive the franchise and throw money at all their dumb concerts and figures and shit. I surmise nostalgia is the main reason the condition exists.
I have since played VII, VI, IX, IV, and XV, and XIII and XV are irredeemable shit.

White people are everywhere. Where do you think most popular movies are made? And advertisement also use white models. If you get the change to travel to any Asian country keep an eye out and you'll see a lot of western ads.

Ironic considering XIII is what made it irredeemably shit.

XIII and XV are equally shit.

How do I beat lazer Pope in this game?

I would have settled just for a warping save point or something so I could at least go back and look at them. Hallways aside, 80% of the areas in the game you only walk through once and then there's no way back to them.

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Post Lightning and Hope

You were too old, my guess is 7-14 are the formative years where you love anything you consume.

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FFXIII is the worst jrpg of this decade never forget

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holy shit you're right
how the fuck did that go unnoticed for this long

2009 you're old

it wasn't released in this decade you ignorant namefag

I've always liked that Gunblade
Also XIII-2 is solid

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It's Motomu Toriyama that loved Lightning. Like legitimate waifufag love. He was FF13's director and heavily pushed for sequels to the game within Square Enix. Between the release of FF13 and FF13-2 he was involved in dissidia 012, front mission evolved and 3rd birthday (that shit parasite eve sequel) all of which have references to Lightning in them.
After that he directed and oversaw the script for FF13-2, then immediately pushed for a Lightning based event for the FF14 mmo.
The guy is essentially the biggest Lightning fanboy and also happens to be the guy who helped create her.

for further reference: youtube.com/watch?v=3C5ECIsHbFM

>she's finally driving herself off a cliff
Nice. I'll decline the invitation though

Hell yes, brother.

Nice. Didn't realize Vanille was so lewd.

Imagine the reaction if the creator was a women.

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what a based motherfucker

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There is literally nothing wrong with liking Lightning.

I love that you can see Vanille's brand early in the story.

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Imagine having the resources of entire game dev studios devoted to your fan fiction. Toriyama is truly a blessed slant.

Why are NPCs dress like that

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and getting paid for it

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he's truly living the dream

fuck yes

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MOMMY

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Yes.

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yes yes yes

interracial SEX

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I want Lightning to shove her fist all the way up my cunt

Not him but I'm 22 years old and love FFXIII. The "hallway simulator" thing didnt bother me in my first playthrough, but yea it's a feature that kills replayability. I had tons of fun with the game in my first playthrough.

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god i want her to beat me to death with a crowbar

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built for SEX

>Who is he to you?

>We're uh, we're fucking. Hard. Every day.
>What the fuck, we are!?
>Yeah we're sliding on each other.
>Oh fuck YES!

>Oh, well I'm glad you two found love.

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XIII was the very reason Versus got re-purposed into XV. Don't try to fucking deny it, it doesn't even matter what SE themselves said, you know damn well FFXIII's branding was fucking poison by the time they started seriously trying to finish the damn game. That's why Agito XIII got renamed to Type-0, too.

They don't even know where to go with this franchise anymore. FF is on life support through the MMO and it's all because Crystal Tools nearly killed it.

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You literally only walk straight in ffx, it's more linear and has substantially worse writing than xiii.

>not posting the vastly superior Fabula Nova Crystallis girl, who in this case /never got her own game

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Okay, paint yourself green and turn into some sort of bizarre final boss for the SD style game.

snow is so lucky
i wish that were me

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We need more art of whatshername

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It probably got re-titled because SE are incompetent hacks and had no actual XV in development at the time.

Sure.

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False. He was happy with the end of 13 but the forced him to revisit it after the failures of 14. He never pushed for a sequel.

This is why Lightning is the best

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That's another part of it, yes. The tech demo they showed off with Agni's Philosophy showed all they had for ideas was more shit like XIII, and they quickly realized that wasn't gonna fucking fly. And now XV didn't do so hot, either.

SE doesn't know what to do with the franchise anymore because they're willing to look in any direction except for the past that made the franchise successful to begin with.

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God, how can anyone ANYONE look at the toneless cancer Tabata butchered Versus XIII and say it was the superior product? I swear it must just be redditors who followed the game for 10 years copeing like mad

are you going to drive off a cliff with Noctis in the trunk?

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>That's another part of it, yes
More like the main part of it. The new "AAA" title the XIV team is working on, presumably XVI, only JUST left preproduction stage lmao

Bullshit
It was retitled because 14 turned out to be a bust so they had to push out the games quickly. All worked stopped on Versus and Agito while staff was shuttered in to fix 14 and push out 13-2. They couldn’t keep it as part of the same continuity anymore because they only way Toriyama could revisit 13 was by changing up the lore.

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>This game came to PC
>Still struggling to get MGS4 off the boat

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VOID’d

>>Hop in kid! We're making Final Fantasy great again!

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>smash cut to the car rocking with the windows fogged up while parked in a dark alleyway

The crystal story line and lore is pure cancer. Literally the worst thing to happen to FF as a whole. Every game that touches it turns into a convoluted shitstorm of bad writing, lousy character arcs, and shit works building.

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kek

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lol fuck off kid...

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XIII being fucking poison is a big part of it, too, user. They didn't rename Agito XIII for no reason.

They shat out XIII sequels that no one actually asked for while they fixed XIV. XV didn't see any serious development until ARR launched and ARR was actually successful.

All work on Agito was not stopped, Type-0 released in 2011, two years before ARR launched. The FNC games were always meant to be drastically different from each other, they were always going to be different interpretations of the base lore around FFXIII. Toriyama shitting out sequels had no affect on that.

Versus wasn't even retitled until after ARR launched, either. They chose to salvage a product that had been in development hell and turn it into the next flagship title, because they knew people weren't going to buy another goddamn game with XIII on the label, the sales dwindling sales with each title openly connected to it were proof of that.

It's a convoluted mess when the idea of crystals were never supposed to be complicated to begin with. They're just supposed to be giant magic stones that are connected to the classical elements. Someone at SE assumed the wrong shit when people said they wanted crystal focused plots like the old days.

13-2 began production 3 months after ff13 was released. Initially it was going to be set hundreds of years after ff13 but once the team settled on time travel as a mechanic Toriyama himself announced that he wanted to make a story "where Lightning could be truly happy"
The quote is from an interview with the production staff in the final fantasy 13 ultimania omega guidebook
As a side note 13-2 had been in production for almost 6 months (of a total 18 month cycle) when the original ff14 was released.

>Again
Are you implying it was ever above mediocre at best?

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>Crystal tools

It wasn't crystal tools, it was the incompetent fucks that literally FORCED the teams to implement it in every single game. To be fair it would have been a good idea if Square had any kind of actual talent in their company.

Her outfits keeps getting more lewd. Like that's going to save the series. She's just waifu bait in a shitty story that somehow got 2 sequels.

10-2 is shit
11 is shit
12 is shit
13 is shit
13-2 is shit
13-3 is shit
14 is shit
15 is MEGA shit
Dissidia is shit
world of final fantasy is shit
type zero is shit
7 Remake will be shit
16 will be shit
17 will be shit

1-10+tactics for life death to square enix praise Squaresoft.

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Developing that engine was expensive as hell, there's a reason they forced so many goddamn games to run on it. And then shat out two XIII sequels to make more money off of it. That whole fucking engine lost them so much money, it was an awful idea from the start. The games that used it were pretty as hell, and I understand there's an expectation for FF games to be really pretty, but it's kinda killing the franchise. IV wasn't very pretty for its time, it looked closer to an NES game than a SNES game, and VII was fucking ugly as sin but they were both great games.

Regardless of what they should have been the crystal stuff is ass cancer on a stick of autism. Also type-0 was by far the worst story I've ever played, ever. The first half was decent with the classic military and different war styles, but the last half crawled so far up it's own ass it could see teeth.

You forgot
7 is shit
8 is shit
9 is shit
10 is shit

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>Hop in kid we're gonna ss

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ff11 was ok if grindy as hell, a decent stab at transitioning ff to mmo during mmos earlier days. But the rest of the list I agree with.

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This is bait.

The premise from the get-go was shit, IMO. I couldn't get far into the game because I couldn't care about the story and the gameplay was shit. When I found out the director of the game would be taking over for Versus/XV, I knew it was a huge red flag.

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>You forgot
>7 is shit
>8 is shit
>9 is shit
>10 is shit

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Type-0 is unironically the worst written FF game ever made.

youtube.com/watch?v=CtgV6tsjHsw

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>Hey, Hope Estheim
>Got something for me?

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I cant believe Squaresoft let some hack make 3 games about his waifu

we need more live action FF

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The lore of the FNC is decent. I have no idea why all of the stories crafted around them were so wacky.

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Soon.

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14 has been single handedly keeping the FF franchise alive for a couple years now

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So we can expect another mainline FF by 2030?

it's not a nomura title so maybe the mid 2020's

Because the betrayal of Mwynn and Etro is at the core of all of them, so stories have to revolve around the melodrama between the gods. In comparison the original Crystal Legend is just four elemental crystals (probably born from the Void) create a world for you to explore. There's no contrivances or moral stances here. It doesn't affect and therefore shackle anything plotwise. The canvas is blank.

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canon

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It's that and the litany of small spinoffs they make. Those tend to be fairly low budget and actually make back a decent amount of money for their investment.

Those mobile gacha games bring in the big bucks

Potatoes!

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I played and beat Tactics. It wasn't that great of a game and is just meme'd on being good.

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i didn't like her game but her belly button ring gets me diamonds

Lickable

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So will they stop the cyber/modern aethestics for the next final fantasy and go back to the fantasy aspects of the series?

What Final Fantasy game should I play on the Switch?

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Just play Dragon Quest

I mean, narrative wise, it made sense, and the game did open up near the end. Granted, I didn't care about the open-world stuff in general so the lack of exploration didn't bother me too much.

Why the fuck does everything have to be medieval? I actually like that FF trends toward more modern aesthetics (VI, VII, VIII, X (Zanarkand), XIII (Gran Pulse), XV)

No fuck off. Dragon Quest is okay, but its not like Final Fantasy.

Soon.

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I'm not saying go medieval. Even FFI had some touches of technology with a space station. I'm just asking to stop the FFXIII, FFXV, Agito constant modern/cyber shit.

VII is my favorite, but IX and X are good choices as well.

XV was literally modern because of the VersusXIII premise of crystals and Noctis's family basically being Yakuza.

I quite liked where the modern aesthetic was going in Versus and XV. I think its a nice use of the final fantasy magitek idea

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FFXV is just modern. So is VIII. XIII trilogy has a wide scope of setting with futuristic, modern, and even tribal elements.

>the lightning is the only female character that makes me want to submit to her
I don't like this

On your knees, user

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XV’s aesthetic ended up being complete shit compared to what we saw of Versus despite having piggybacked off of it though. Lucis is completely soulless. Not even the citadel feels the same for some reason.

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Nigga wot?
The story was probably one of the better final fantasy stories. It's actually people with believable motives and not just destruction for fuck all reasons. Plus the gameplay is pretty good for a psx tactical turn based game.

Only 13 uses the generic cyber future style and XV is modern but the thing it was going for with a light/dark themed setting couldve been unique, there is no reason for Square to go back to generic ass High Fantasy thou when they own DQ and every other JRPG now a days does that setting

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Nah it doesn't work like that kiddo, take your garbage memes and end your garbage life.

The magitek stuff is getting too scifi lately. It used to be a more gear and pulley type machine and now it's all streamlined and smooth edges with dumb ass fins on everything.

But my mom told me to never get into pink haired people's cars.

you could go your whole life and play only FFXV and FFX and you would have gotten the best the entire mainline series had to offer

Why is Vanille flashing Lightning like this?

FUCKING WEEB SHIT

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pretty nice pit

i want to lick Lightning's sexy armpits

lmao no

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i have never played her games, but i have her get fucked by everything in skyrim

There hasn't been a good Final Fantasy mainline title since XII

Dragon quest sucks ass tho. That old dragon ball aesthetic is garbage and bland as fuck now. FF should go back to the magic version of the steam era, with sword wielding knights on magitek horses and airships and shit. This new modern cyber art style is boring.

XII was boring as fuck

>you will never be a pussy slave for Lightning (e.g., Hope Estheim)

Man I want this goddess to collar me and let me lick her arm pits

Reminder that Hope was originally slated to be Lightning’s love interest in the sequels

>>FFXV
>>best
I know taste is usually subjective but you have objectively shit tier taste

Oh even FFXII was pretty crap. It was a single player mmo. Seemed like it was trying too hard to have a tactics level politic intrigue story but just was boring as hell.

12 supposedly got fucked with alot by the suits up stairs supposedly

Source? I don't think this is the case. Their relationship is ambiguous at the end of LR, though.

Every FF past X got fucked by the suits upstairs.

>Every FF past SW got fucked by the suits upstairs
ftfy

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>Toriyamas art is bland when only Chrono Trigger is the other only big name game with it.
if anything Nomuras art is bland and Amanos is only good for everything but people also DQ is pretty much that minus the Steampunk and has good gameplay cause its not trying to reinvent the wheel with what works, I rather more unique settings like FF10 or what Versus was going to be anyway than bland High fantasy with light steampunk elements

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hahahaha how many times during the game will lighting hit snow

Nomura's part anime, part realistic character designs are one of the biggest staples of the series now. Oh well, at least the characters are pretty.

>Muh demons were behind it.

hits Snow like three times, beats Sazh up, slaps Fang, shoves Hope on the ground, extincts countless species, and beats a few moogles up. I think only Vanille was spared from Lightning's reign of terror.

Actually, If we're including LR, she hits Snow way more than three times kek

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To be completely fair snow deserved getting hit

In LR, Lightning was only punching him in the face out of love

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No that's X you're both thinking of.
Voice acting was a mistake.

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Why have the plots of the last few FF been so shit? Is writing a simple story that hard?

t. toriyama

XV was disappointing but the DLC kinda tweaks it up.
XIV's story is good and engaging (i mean, it pretty much has to be)
XIII was okay and should have focused on side characters more
XII had Matsuno so the characters were all loved but the story could be better (it works if you're not familiar with Dune/StarWars-esque stories)
X-2 was misunderstood
Please play World of Final Fantasy

Where's Yuna

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XIV story only gets good to a certain point. It also gives off Star Wars vibe.

Well no shit because they crammed the modern aesthetic with King Knights and then crammed old D&D Fantasy aesthetics to when the Gods were real.

Are you driving me to Galuf's house and then driving off a cliff?

XIII was okay, and should not have had sequels from a story standpoint. It really didn't need any, from what I've played.
Also, one should probably stop comparing XII to Star Wars at about the time where the plucky princess and the sly smuggler and his non-human companion and the young blonde boy orphaned by the warlike Empire finally find the Resistance trying to stop the Emperor from ruling everything, and then REFUSE HELPING IT.
Seriously, it's the most superficial, Fisher-Price-tier-look-mom-I-understand-basic-character-tropes kind of comparison imaginable

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I'd push for Yuel's game if I was Toriyama.

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>no belly button ring
garbage

BUILT FOR

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>XII had Matsuno so the characters were all loved but the story could be better (it works if you're not familiar with Dune/StarWars-esque stories)
I swear to god XII is one of my favourite games of all time, with one of my favourite characters in any video game but every time I play the game the dialogue goes in one ear and out the other and I can never remember anything that happens in it.

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>12 is shit
maybe vanilla but Zodiac Age? nah.
>world of final fantasy is shit
this one kind of hurts because the gameplay isn't really even bad. It just decided to mash together characters and settings from all of the previous games with potato versions of the characters people actually liked. If it had just made its own world/characters and didn't go for the potato look it good have been pretty great. It even has a 10/10 main theme youtube.com/watch?v=xH969dFd3pU&t=73s

>XII had Matsuno so the characters were all loved but the story could be better (it works if you're not familiar with Dune/StarWars-esque stories)
I still maintain that XII would have been much better if Vaan didn't exist and Reks recovers from his stabbing and becomes the main character because then the MC would be significantly more tied-in to what's actually going on.

HURTS MY HANDS

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Fact: The only reason no one likes XII is because it's not anime like the other ones which makes it impossible for weebs and their tiny minds to connect to, hence why Vaan was added in the first place. It's also why Xenoblade 1 barely gets talked about here when the second one gets constant threads mostly waifufagging the big titty anime girls.
Weebs are emotionally stunted manchildren and should not be listened to by anyone.

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She was beating the C'ieth out of him in LR, thanks to the ending it got retconned out of existence anyways.

Nah, the reasons people dislike XII are
>Vaan
>combat is like a worse version of Chrono Trigger.
>no Uematsu
>Larsa doesn't become a permanent party member
>exp doesn't go to unused party members.
>no fun minigames

> is because it's not anime like the other ones
FFXII isn't really much more or less anime than the other ones though, especially the pre-playstation ones.

>he posts the game where everything is "ALLAGAN TRON LINES LMAO"
have you considered that the platforms the games are on might be a reason too, SMT#FE is super weeb but no one played it because it was on the fucking Wii U

Ironic really because Fiora is a top waifu

Why are pp and most japs so obssesed about her armpits?

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XIII had combat with actual depth.

>exp doesn't go to unused party members.
Isn't that pretty much every FF game? I know X did that.

this is a joke right?
>summons are completely useless
>can't even command the other characters in your party
>have to fill up a retarded stagger bar because otherwise you just deal chip damage.

> Isn't that pretty much every FF game?
just FFX and FFXII as far as i recall. At least in FFXII they still gained AP even if they weren't used though. It's just a pretty dumb mechanic because it actively discourages the player from trying a different party setup.

>he ignores paradigm composition
>he ignores ATB gauge and the pros and cons of filling it up all the way, using 1 bar immediately to keep a staggered enemy in the air and the risk of getting canceled
>he ignores buffs and debuffs being massively useful
>he ignores battles taking 3 times as long when using auto-battle because the game won't make the best choices for you
>he doesn't realize he doesn't have to break the stagger bar to get the damage increase
>he doesn't realize he's gotta use summons right before staggering
>he doesn't realize the summons can serve as an extra life

Final Fantasy 13 while commanding one character has 4 times the depth of 15, which added the ability to take control of the other guys well over a year of its launch, mind you.

lightning returns is unicornically the best ff game. prove me wrong. pro-tip: you can't

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SHOTA COCK

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Japs make the weirdest shit. Does she get ploughed first here or is this just pure gore shit?

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Thank you Lightning for drawing the house.

It's better than what a lot of people give it credit for

tits too small

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Holy shit this is so awkward lmao

It's not the best, but it is one of my favorites.

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That's just creepy.

what actually happened to ito

>le ironic enjoyment of bad games

Next level shitposting

I'm glad some of us have our priorities straight.

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I can't believe anyone at the time believed this.

Last good was FFVI

yeah but the cutscenes are in 720p and the game doesent run at 60

15 is eons better than 13 so shut the fuck up

if there all shit why did you play them?

No. Unlike XV, XIII wasn't even the very worst Final Fantasy when it came out.

>tfw young enough to feel nostalgic about Lightning but also 25

me on her left arm

How are LR and XIII at such different rankings for the waifu and characters categories? It's literally the same characters

i hope Toriyama will make FF16

Based. The best and worst FF has to offer.

15 is shit

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Looks like something from Brave Exvius. Is she re-released or redesigned or something? Haven't been playing it for years.

Yea it's CG Lightning

No it didn't. XIII had better combat, but both were pretty braindead. I did find XIII more challenging for 1 or 2 bossfights though.

So we have 2 7 stars Lightning now?

I've never played FFXIII

FFXII is what killed FF to me.

niceb8

You made it bad!!!

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ohmy

VI is medicore

Gore. That's her spine

lightning really is gorgeous

pretty sure he's asking if she got fucked prior to that gore panel

ARE YOU FEELING IT MR. KRABS?

I dunno senpai, now that 15 is officially over we can honestly say that the whole thing was a huge waste of everyone's time.

They act differently in the games and there are actually some nice NPC characters (although they matter ever so little to the waifu ranking, that is based mostly on the main characters. For the characters they matter more.). Mostly for waifus it's that LRXIII has Lumina and it didn't ruin XIII-2 Serah, because she barely appeared. Lightning was also her only tolerable incarnation in games.

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You're making it 2d again?
Because the last Final Fantasy I played or gave a shit about was VI.

Yes it did. You could go the FFXV way and autobattle through everything but it is merely doing yourself a disservice as it is a waste of time. There are several impactful, micro-decisions to be made inside and outside of battle that can affect its outcome. If that isn't depth, I don't know what it is.

Get out of here grandpa

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ebin..

final fantasy was never good
just a friendly reminder
thanks

Cast her

Hard to imagine someone listing LR as their favorite game in the series if they're not a lightningfag. The whole fucking game is about the lightning/lumina bullshit. Are you just a hardcore gameplayfag?

I tried LR for like 2 hours and it ran bad and it wanted me to do retarded and annoying detective shit for no reason so I have no idea what you retards are talking about this game being good.

Good combat system and good customization. Some decent sidequests.
You're talking about the intro to Noel's main quest, which is probably the shittiest part of the game.

he will save Square and you KNOW IT

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I'm so fucking tired of Nomura

>Are you just a hardcore gameplayfag?
Yes. (Gameplay, customization and characters in that order are my top interests.) Just Guard plus Just Attack is a cheat code to my heart. You feel like a force of nature in LRXIII. Both in combat and that your arrival is the most important event to any character you come across. I've never gotten this feeling since Planescape: Torment, except in strictly combat terms.

But I have to say it was fairly entertaining after a while watching Toriyama fall all over himself to praise and prop up Lightning at any chance he got.

LRXIII is quite non-serious as well, so it's easier to swallow the more faulty parts and just laugh about them. And it's not like there weren't other successful things about such as atmosphere and little shoutouts to previous things like Terra.

Why does everyone complain about 'muh datalogs' in XIII? All the terms in the opening are explained not long after, are people retarded? It'd be weird to have characters explain these terms to each other in the middle of the opening anyway, they're all busy and they've all lived in the world for a while, why would they suddenly need it to be re-explained to them?

>micro-decisions to be made inside and outside of battle

like what

>it was fairly entertaining after a while watching Toriyama fall all over himself to praise and prop up Lightning at any chance he got.
The man's dedication is legendary. It's only matched by this crazy bastard:
>imgur.com/a/ibrsD#0

Linked post above, brainlet.

Same, but hopefully teaming up with Ito. While Toriyama's mainline characters and stories make me angry, I at least want to finish his games to see what happens to them. In addition while not successful outside of sequels, he just wants to make fun, exciting games with genki girls and I can respect that.

He's also responsible for Aerith's original characterization, so I can never truly hate him.

>the cutscenes are in 720p
Is this true? I thought it was the ps3 version, which should have 1080p cutscenes.

>XV was so fucking bad that people are now defending XIII

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imagine getting turned on by poorly modeled low polygons

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proof or gtfo

Lightning's design is top tier

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Final Fantasy was never good

I'm sorry you have a faulty brain user

No it's not.
The Guardian Corps Uniform was, though. I don't even think you ever see it ingame.

TOBLEROOOOOOOOOONE!

??? She's in her Guardian Corps uniform in the entire first game

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How can this twink even swing a sword without flying off with it?

How can any main FF character swing their sword? Cloud's is bigger than him lmao

It's a unique design for no apparent reason, and looks infinitely worse and overdesigned than the concept art.
I guess when you have to compensate for a character's lack of any distinguishable characteristics it falls to the visual design of the character to look like ass, no pun intended.

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Not bad, but her actual uniform is better imo

it doesnt help there's that point after archades where the story tapers off and you're only given cutscenes + character interaction for the side-zones

Shame it's stuck in a game somehow worse than FFXIII.
Didn't even appear in Dresspheres Return, what an absolute waste.
It's almost like Square is and has been comprised of retards for the better part of three decades.

you like Final Fantasy XIII you should fucking kill yourself right now

Nah it was that fat filipino dude.

>those scenes in the woods with Sazh and Vanille

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Only difference is that the final game's model has much more vibrant colors than the concept art. Everything else is the same.

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feels like a nightmare to me because I specifically remember buying Final Fantasy XIII in 2010 and realizing it was shit

Cecil's a chad and uses a regular-sized sword

kill yourself

>Didn't even appear in Dresspheres Return, what an absolute waste.
>It's almost like Square is and has been comprised of retards for the better part of three decades.
Yep. Although I'm most mad that Lumina's outfit isn't a reward for finishing the game. It would've fit so well thematically and was so obvious and easy to implement.

There's nothing regular about his spear-sword they have him use in the art.

both hands on the wheel fagget

>Yep. Although I'm most mad that Lumina's outfit isn't a reward for finishing the game.
Don't think they'd ever put that in there. I am mad they didn't put in the fucking penguin outfit, though.

At this point, I have no idea which design you're talking about. The one in your pic or Lightning's OG uniform?

I've only played The Zodiac Age but I really like it, although I wish it had more customisation options. Where do I go from here in FF?

fake news propaganda by the global dissidia elite. They had to give him that in Dissidia because there were like 8 other sword users.

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Most would recommend VII or X. Pick which ever fucking one you want. It doesn't matter.

>Don't think they'd ever put that in there.
But the whole game is about Lightning accepting Lumina back into herself. How is that something that they can never fathom Lightning wearing? The game has Amazon Warrior, so that can't be the reason.

If Yoshida is actually behind it it might get finished in a decent amount of time. He flipped ARR in record time. There are a ton of problems with XIV but they're all related to design philosophy and not the fact that it was a rushed job.

Aya costume was better

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Can we stop and get a Tolberone?

I quite enjoyed LR but even I cringed hard during the stageplay scene (at least the dress was cute)

It seems like children's clothing. The amazon warrior outfit is slutty (and doesn't fit lightning's character either), but the lolita little girl dress feels way further out of line lmao

but he saved the game and actually gave the characters actual character which is why they're the best ff party now

Nomura is just a retard with his kh trash that should just stick to character designs

it was already posted user

he could just warp out while shitening drowns like the ugly bitch she is

no its 13
xv revived and saved ff after 13 killed it

this would fit in right in FFXV
I love it

damn badonk going all out samefagging

Didn't Tabata remove most of Noctis' actual character? I remember Nomura saying he was worried players would dislike Noctis, but in Tabata's version, Noctis wasn't unlikable, just bland.

>Upper arm belt
>Gloves with wrist covers despite a sleeveless uniform
>One awkward sleeve-legging (absent from ingame model)
>is a unique color/design for no reason, defeating the purpose of a uniform
>Miniskirt
>Coat unbuttoned
>Pointless cape
>Doesn't have a sweet PSO handgun
>Loose scabbard
>Loose pouch that holds nothing
2/10, wouldn't bang even if I was Hope

Fuck off Barry. This is a civil thread

anything between 3-7 would be fine, try 8 and 9 after playing some of them

In ff13 all you do is auto battle, noctis alone can do more than the entite party in ff13, also you can never control other members in battle during battle and you can only change party leader in 13 outside of battle which affects nothing other than the character model the camera focuses on
xv has unique gameplay systems for all characters, for fuck sake noctis using only 3 different weapons already makes him more diverse than ff13 entire party is

this

xiii is objectively the worst ff

The sleeve is on the ingame model. The leg pouch is actually somewhat practical considering she has few pockets anywhere else.

there is none, he's just retarded
ff13 is all auto battle which always picks the most effective command, more so on an enemy type already beaten at least once or librad, which takes less than 2 seconds to do with less input required than popping a potion

You have adressed literally zero of my arguments and you have the gall to say all you do in XIII is autobattle when you literally hold 0 to attack in XV. You are mentally ill.

I didn't like Noctis at the beginning, but that's the point.
He changes throughout the game.
Almost like a character.
Shame the story was so wonky and poorly paced.
Square or Japan in general finally came -this- close to having one fraction of what is required to be considered a proper story, and they bungled it.
No but really, I love Japanese games, specifically their ARPGs, and all that good shit, but why can't the fucking country write a story? I mean historically they have nothing. Video games or otherwise. It's like they're genuinely incapable of registering what it is to tell a story that has characters that aren't aliens and/or robots.
All they do is rip off mythological tales and add nothing to them, just change the setting, not even the context.
What the fuck, Japan? You're not actually a species of soulless imitators out to try and understand the human condition, are you?

It is? Maybe I'm thinking of the other CG renders, where it's mysteriously absent.
Either way that's not exactly a point in her favor. Being absent was a minor victory.

Nah XV was kino while only badonkadonk samefags on Yea Forums and /vg/ to shill FF13 just to shit against XV

badonkadonk has been here since like 2009, his posts predate even the Fireden archive, recently he stopped using his name in the name field to avoid detection

I don't remember it ever being absent in a render

No he gave him all the character he has which is why he's so beloved, he had no character back in 2006/2009 versus, and what little we saw of hin in 2010/2011/2013 is fully intact now, only now he has an actual fully fleshed out personality and not just 1 note like in those trailers

Fuck off badonk

barry you're the only samefagger. The badonkadonk fag was definitely not here 2009

Couldn't even make her own great, let alone something else.

I see what it is, in every render it's a shorter sleeve and is one part instead of two-tone/separate pieces
and then in XIII-2 she has two sleeves
idk what's going on anymore, what do the sleeve do?

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>that literal 20 hour tutorial
>that absolute dogshit weapon system where you can barely do anything with it until the you're already 3/4ths of the way through the game
>that dogshit dumbed down version of the sphere grid
you'd have to pay me to play that trash again.

FF13 and 15 are both garbage. FF14 is awful too, while we're at it.

People keep defending these garbage FF entries because they don't play other JRPG series. It's time to move on

Persona,Ys,and even fucking Neptunia is superior to FF now. I know it hurts but it's time to move on. Capitalism dictated this would happen.

Artificial good taste is no taste at all

bumping my own post. please respond.

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>dumbed down version of the sphere grid
Why do people say this? XIII simply has six classes you level up independently of each other. It's more akin to something like III where you also level different classes separately. It's nothing like X's

Yep. People seem to be stuck in the early-mid 2000s, which was the last time period SE made good games.

SE even fucked up Kingdom Hearts. The company is done. They are literally the japanese bioware.

XboneX is the best version

Best version of a shit game is still a shit game. Why can't some of you FFdrones understand this?

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All you do is autobattle in 13
holding to attack in XV is literally just only basic attacking you fucking moron, autobattle in 13 automatically picks the most effective command from the entire command pool and automatically does it, moreso for any enemy type dedeated at least once or libra'd, and fucking using libra requires less effort in 13 than popping potions does
You're a fucking retard that obviously never played XV and has the fucking gall to act like 13 isnt anything but dogshit

Noctis alone has multiple combos, abilities, weapon types, skills, directional, aerial attacks, dodges, blocks etc which you can do at any given moment giving the player full manual control over all actions

ff13 just has you autobattle to pick a a word from a menu to cue it up and watch a cutscene and since there is only 3 members in battle at once thate only 3 weapon types at once 2 of which are fully ai autobattle at all times in battle in 13, meanwhile noctis alone has 4 unique weapon types all with their own combos and attacks and with enenies having their break % which is far more essential to exploit to defeat enemies quicker by targetting weak points to break them which earns both rare drops and vulnerable states enemies which fucks them over quick, far more effective than the retarded stagger in 13 which its only "strategy" is literally just spam rav then when full use com to prolong the stagger, no thought required, that fucking takes less input than using a tech command in XV to get prompto to half enemies defence with piercer or ignis to heal party and reposition them with regroup, etc.

ff13 literally has less strategy required than anything in XV and it has objectively less combat variety, mechanics, things you can actual do, things enemies do, things the whole party can do etc than XV ever had since launch. Get fucked you dumb 13fag

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Are the people who don't like the modern FF games the ones who use the autobattle options all the time?

Yes he was, I remember when FF13 came out he would constantly post pics of her in threads and defend 13 non stop, and he still does that

>stop liking what I don't like

Built for smug, face sitting and dom intercourse.

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Nah xv is kino, only 13 and 14 are garbage

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*holds the dodge button*

nothin personal kid

can't decide if I want to play this with English audio or Japanese. I've looked up video clips and the English voice acting is actually very decent, but I feel like I should play in its original native language.

You mean the same thing you do to use a shield in action games with shields, like every zelda? like in souls?

>13 automatically picks the most effective command from the entire command pool
Actually it doesn't. The autobattle function can be quite fucking retarded most of the time, especially for the ravager/sentinel/synergist/saboteur roles. I don't even think it's possible to kill a Long Gui with just using auto-battle

Fuck Tabata

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it's not the same at all

look up badonkadonks retarded fucking posts. He said he started with XIII-2

>Defending 13
>Defending 15

I really feel like I'm in some sort of twilight zone I cannot leave.

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Yes it does, it automatically picks the most effective command and moreso when you libra and enemy or beaten an enemy type at least once.
all bosses become weak to autobattle by using libra on them which then has autobattle automatically pick the most effective command against their weaknesses.

Fuck off and neck yourself already, Barry.

You mean based Tabata, saved XV, gave us kino and a kino book thats better than the shitty ff13 novels or ff7 novel or ff10 novel or ff2 novel etc

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>t. XV-kun
All of them are garbage and anyone who unironically defends any of these needs to neck themselves.

It literally is exactly the same thing

but it's not, you retard.

God ff13 shit is such trash

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Fuck off badonk

t. underage retard seething

the autobattle often chains phys/mag attacks together in the ravager role because "on paper" it builds more chain % per hit. In reality however, chaining phy/mag is slow as fuck and completely inefficient. The only way you can somewhat avoid this is by maxing a character's mage stat so the AB will prefer non-phys attacks. And it's always retarded when it tries to choose syn/sab/sen commands.

>in zelda you hold or tap a button to defend with
>in souls you hold or tap a button to defend with
>in xv you can hold or tap a button to defend with

it's literally the same

Barry ruins yet another thread. Great.

that's not how it works. try again.

you never need to use anything other than com rav med

>ruin
>a ff13 thread with 1 person defending ff13
holy shit neck yourself badonk

lol no

>XII, V and all that shit
USE AMERICAN NUMBERS FAGGOTS

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You are that one obssessed XV fag that got rangebanned, aren't you? Know that you will not be called by name, since I have the feeling you thrive on the attention. Now, to quickly get on with your vomit of a post.

>All you do is autobattle in 13
Again, how can you say that when XV combat as whole can be dismissed with holding a single button? The cognitive dissonance must be astounding.
You could autobattle through a good chunk of XIII; That, I've never denied. My assertion is that it is a waste of time when you could finetune the commands yourself and consistently finish fights quicker. No, the game doesn't pick the most effective commands by the simple fact that any and every autoB input will fill the entire ATB bar, the trouble that poses I have addressed in my Original post, scroll up and educate yourself.

>Noctis alone has multiple combos...
O :^). Oh shit, now it's O+^! Riveting stuff, truly.

>more drivel...
The breakage system is a neutered version of Stagger, if we are to be truly honest. The difference is that instead of rewarding the exploitation of an enemies weakness with a long period in which they become vulnerable, XV opts to drop you catalysts for "spells". The largest of enemies becomes invalid for a grand total of 15 or so seconds after targeting its weak spot. I'm sure you believe that's a wonderful mechanic, but I, for one, have no interested in the glorified magic bombs in this game, so Breakage falls apart almost immediately.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing. I never really cared for your vehement defending of XV on this website. But know that your cognitive dissonance can only take you so far. (1/2)

Your game was the shittiest of them all, so I'll pass.

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That's exactly how it works. Shields in XV function identical to as in souls, and gladio shield+sidesteps function identical to souls even moreso because it uses the same button inputs as in souls

using phase is exactly the same mechanically as shields in zelda which you hold to use too

it's not. one is auto the other is manual. try again.

>one person
dog do you not see all unique ips?

>enter any of FF threads except XV
>fucking australian autist faggot ruins it every time with his trash game
Reminder that Tabata got fired after he lost 33 millions to SE.

You can have fun with the game (as I did, for about 10 minutes). You can like the characters, as shallow as they are. You can like staring at the pretty desert and the pretty grassland (though not much more, since those are the only biomes in the game), but you'll never be able to form a coherent argument as to why XV has a deeper combat system than XIII, because arguments are inherently based in reality (or our perception of it, at least). Yours is simply rooted in your complete and other deluded devotion for the game, and that is why you appear as nothing but an annoying autist to anyone who's had the displeasure of running into you in these forums. Now fuck off. Do not reply to me again. (2/2)

I think I would have had more fun playing XV if it weren't for the fucking horrendous load times

i swear to god man FFXV is the gayest game ever

*blocks ur path*
*ends ur theorized playthrough*

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That's because it is.

>4k meme
cringe

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Yeah, there are quite a few instances in the game that you'll get fucking raped if you don't use a sen

bluepilled faggot. 4k monitors make much more sense than 4k tvs, you're actually appreciating the resolution because it takes up more or your fov. framerate snobbery is the true meme because it only applies to shitty fps games, most good games are 60fps locked or the framerate doesn't even matter.

These two pepperoni nipple bitches were one of the most annoying fights in the game.

In FF13 you literally press 1 button to input everything you dumb fuck
In XV for combat O is only attack, not dodge roll or warp or warpstrike or parry or tech or jump
And also yes fucking O+ directions alone is more than FUCKING WATCHING A CUED UP CUTSCENE WITH NO MANUAL CONTROL IN 13
Are you fucking retarded or what?
You are literally also wasting time if you hold to attack instead of tap because tapping gives manual finishers which has crit boost which increases break % on enemies which kills them faster than holding anything, autobattle always picks the most effective command and moreso when librad or an enemy type is beaten once because its weakness is automatically taken into account when autobattle picks the command, you aren't exploiting anything in 13 because all enemies are staggered identically by just spam rav till it fills then switch to com to prolong the stagger which requires no thought, meanwhile manually targeting enemy body parts to exploit their weakness like breaking horns or antlers or hind legs or exposed rump or blindside requires not only analyzing the enemies to manually target them but dealing the break damage to ensure it by naking use of enemy weaknesses and crits which are have to all be manually dealt with

13 is literally entirely auto battle, you can't even fucking manually jump in 13, you can't even dodge attacks, you can't even cancel mid combo, all you can do is stop the cue but it will always do the last command in the cue before you pressed stop because it's literally automated trash with no actual manual control, ff13 is like watching a fucking dvd and just pressing play and pause, all you do is watch cutscenes, no thought is ever required, no snap descision are made, no reflexes are used, no skill involved, ff13 is pure trash

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you have to be actively holding the button in both, by your own logic zelda and souls are auto

does FFXIII have any extreme bosses like Emerald, Ruby and Ultima Weapon in FFVII or the Dark Aeons in FFVIII? That gave the endgame content of those games a really cool feeling for some reason.

All of which are shitting on 13 earlier in the thread? only 1 person is actively defending 13

case in point here the retarded ff13 fag cant stop lying after getting btfo

shitter detected. try again

>In FF13 you literally press 1 button to input everything you dumb fuck
This is retarded. 13 is menu based like all of the FFs before it. Also, it's not even true since you use L1 and R1 too lmao.

And the big turtle

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Dude you're retarded

*v

The turtles you're going to grind for all weapons, I guess...?

>first it was KH-Kun, then DMC-fag and now FF13-fag
Who comes next Barry?

*laughs at ur one-role autobattle*

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>ff13 fag trying to call any other game character shallow
holy fuck you're retarded, they're the party with the most depth to them and ardyn is the most fleshed out ff antagonist too, you already got BTFO here and here But since you're a retard that legitimately thinks picking a word to watch a cutscene is more than full real time manual action control you really have no valid argument, never did and never will because ff13 is devoid of any semblance of requiring thought to play, you literally only press autobattle and watch cutscenes both in and out of battle while running down a 20 hour corridor to an empty grass circle then to two more corridors before the anticlimax ff13 tries to call an ending

It's menu based, sure. Doesn't mean that "auto-battle" and PARADIGM SHIFT! PARADIGM SHIFT! PARADIGM SHIFT! isn't damn near "smash X alone."

Divebombing your health to dangerous levels to quickly finish fights to get 5 stars is the only thing that requires "strategy" in FF13.

>badonk samefagging again
yikes ff13 not only the gayest piece of dyke shit but also worst ff

Fought one of these before my crystarium expanded at all. Took like an hour to beat it, and I had to be paying attention the whole time. If I didn't cast spells at exactly the right time I would've died
Fight was intense. Wish I knew about the crystarium expanding before trying them, I was weak as fuck

>just autobattle rav spam retards lol!!

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So you never played them?

Hey Barry, I still can't suplex a train in XV, despite you saying that VI is trash compared to XV.

Which is less than XV with O plus square plus X plus triangle plus all 4 dpad directions plus r1 plus l1 plus r2 plus l stick etc

They're all the same person, badonkadonk is ff13 kun and he is a kh fag that pretended to be a dmchad just to get dmchads to attack xv by him pretending the people shitting on dmc5 were xv bros

just hold O lmao

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You can't suplex a train in ff7 or any other ff so who cares? the suplex on the train itself isn't even canon its just a automated animation that applies to all enemies sabin uses suplex on

Barry, you're mentally ill.

So I can't still suplex a train in XV unlike in VI?

I can't ever unsee her slightly too large of a head and it ruins all 3 of her games

>presses autobattle and wins with com and rav 99% of the battle
youtu.be/jhrELbyhtMc

Unironically the third most dangerous battle in the main story, if you just auto-act and change paradigms, because the ice shards hit so fast.

>wins entire fight with only ravs and med while autobattle
youtu.be/QEQCTEMmH80

You're retarded badonk

>vid of someone who has probably played the game more or less 100 times and knows it inside out
>"I manipulated my ATB refreshes so that I canceled Snow's ready animation, making him attack six times continuously. Pretty cool, but not really necessary for this strat "

you do realize people can speedrun through shooter campaigns with a knife only because they know when and where every enemy will spawn or attack from, right?

this early boss would btfo anyone who had your mindset that was new to the game

you cant parry titan in 6 so so what?
titan weighs more than a ghost train does

>t-that doesn't count
lmaoo

>"Up to this point, the game is pretty easy, until you face the Eidolon Odin. Odin doesn't take any crap. Accessory: Spark Ring x2 Default Paradigm: Dualcasting -Libra -Auto-Chain -Switch to Ying & Yang Paradigm -Auto-Chain -Potion etc... When Odin puts on 'Ullr's Shield', switch to 'Dualcasting' Paradigm to boost chain bonus and fill the Gestalt meter. Then switch back to 'Ying & Yang' when he goes offensive. Use a potion when you think you need it. Odin should focus on Hope most of the time. Some people use 'Synergist' to give Hope/Lightning 'Protect', and that works too, but it takes too much time switching, so I just use potions while the ATB bar fills. If you still have troubles, you might use an Aegisol or Fortisol if you have any. But I would recommend fighting him without it, since there are more battles like this down the line, and you might not have items to help you. It's good experience."
>game is just rav and x spam

Yes it literally is because he only spammed autobattle there with a rav rav to rav med, while spamming potions in between, there is no depth in ff13

The point of Odin is just "Lightning can heal Hope." Once you have that, Rav wins the fight.

I really want to like Tactics but I find it really tedious to play
t. stopped at Chapter 3

You guys just made me buy her game. I hope it's not as garbage as the last one.

Did anyone buy Aqua's game?

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Ok, but only if we stop at the Louis Vuitton store first. I need a new handbag

Is Lightning Returns worth playing? I haven't played the first 2 games but I'm really bored.

>actual depth
>only FIVE fucking classes and the only input from the player is switching between these classes

Final fantasy 13 faggots everyone

Exploration and combat are best they have ever been in FF game. But plot is just fancervice for XIII fags, so not knowimg what happend before for context. I recomend watching a synopsys of XIII and playing the other two.

Literally nothing will make sense, but go for it if you want.

Also Prada for a new shirt.

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CUTE

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motherfuckers had the perfect formula with 7,8,9. then they fucked everything with constant experimentation. 15 was a perfect candidate to go back to the roots, they even had the hardware to push open world meme but still managed to fuck it up royally. I don't trust em anymore.

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Sorry too busy pasting backstreet boys songs over ffxv.

Cute chocobo, can i ride it?

It´s a special breed of Chocobo that actually rides you instead.

All I wanted in LR was to be able to ride Chocolina across the plains

You mean to tell me that someone didn´t mod that in?

Tragically no