What's the best ffvii party and why is it cloud, cid, and vincent?

what's the best ffvii party and why is it cloud, cid, and vincent?

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>It's possible to miss recruiting Vincent

What was Square thinking?

vincent is objectively shit tier along with cait sith

because it's your favourite
the game is piss easy so it doesn't matter, you can use whoever you want

>best mage in the game (after aeris croaks)
>can kill emerald weapon in one hit
nah

Cloud cid and tifa for me. All the ones you briefly played as

are you me, age 10

Cloud, Cid, Tifa

no i'm just /pol/
only white males allowed in my party

They were thinking it was an era where game developers cared about packing as much fun and content into a game as possible and even including fun secrets that players need to figure out on their own and might miss.

Nowadays devs hate to waste resources on stuff players won't see and optional characters would be sold separately as DLC.

Cloud, Tifa, Yuffie

>first boss you face after recruiting Vincent is healed by fire
>Vincents limit break makes you lose control of him and he begins casting fire on everything

Fuck you square.

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>not being Cloud, Cid and Yuffie


You disappoint me, user...

game devs had a sense of humor back then

>Cloud has the second strongest Limit and is good with pretty much anything
>Cid has a strong multi-hit limit and good Materia slots
>Vincent is the objectively shittiest character in the game weapon and limit-wise but has one advantage, the mug glitch to skip shitty summoning cutscenes
yeah, I guess

Gameplay matches story, where Vincent is also a retarded fuck-up.

IMO, Cloud, Cid, an Yuffie if you meme her.

Barrett and Vincent are objective trash.
Tifa is underhwelming
Red XIII is fine, but I feel like he's just Cloud with a lower baseline
Cait Sith is your best mage but that implies Cloud isn't serviceable casting magic

vincent is top tier
shittiest characters are red, yuffie, and cait sith

cloud, yffie, vincent - unlimited limit break chaining

Cloud Cid Tifa.
You were close.

Barrets the best nonCloud character in the game objectively.

Vincent was cool until Dirge of Cerberus came along and assassinated his character. They just make him a wimpy cuck in that game.

You misspelled "Red XIII." Don't worry though, nobody is dumb enough to think you actually meant Vincent.

Yuffie has the most useful ultimate weapon in the game and her limit has as many hits as Cloud.

It's easy dude, just kill 65000 enemies with him, then you can one shot one (1) of the super bosses.

Vincent sucks chode and is unironically the worst character in FF7.

Cait Sith and Barret are both literally the strongest characters in the game. Vincent not only manages to have the worse weapons and materia slots but also absolute godawful limits.

Vincent is so terrible in a game centered around glitches all he has is the mug glitch.

>b-b-b-b-b-ut d-d-death penalty!
Good job, it took Vincent 60,0000 KILLS to do what Cait Sith accomplishes in 40 and what Barret accomplishes with Angermax.

Not Cloud, Tifa, Yuffie for that harem build.

>Cait Sith is your best mage
wrong
best mage would be aeris, then cloud, then vincent, then cait sith
cloud obviously can do everything so there's no real point in having him focus on being a mage
vincent and cait sith are tied for highest magic stat after cloud but vincent gets more mp making him better technically

That was the joy of replayability missing shit, people saying they got, replaying and finding more stuff. This before the internet spoiled everyone, and the dlcs and the trailers spoiling the fucking game before being released and then people saying "game wasnt that good". No fucking wonder, you got spoiled, the hype moments were killed that moment

>muh morph + conformer
how is autistically grinding thousands of items in the gelinka "useful"

>not using w-item and making 99 sources per fight
dumb dumb

Doesn't Barret have the strongest limit break in the game?

Barret and Cid are on par with 18 hits followed by Yuffie and Cloud with 15 hits

vincent
2nd highest magic power
gets weapon with 8 linked materia slots AND 255% hit percentage AND long range

If you didn't have Barret in your team you are a racist.

He cursed too much and my mom refused to let me play with him in my party

he won't stop using ebonics

If she allowed you to use Cid then she is a hypocrite and a racist.

Cid is a mechanic he is allowed to curse
Cursing is part of the process of fixing things

>fighting ruby weapon
>Cid goes into 777 mode
>eternally attacks for 0 damage
>forced to reset
Annoying, but I love shit like this

Seems to me like you needed to grow some balls and stand up to your cunt mother.

usually, you don't get vincent until AFTER that boss...99% of the time when the game is played new.

They attack 64 times.

nah bro

you use his 100% hit rate weapon and deathblow materia. 9999 every time!

Best party is Tifa, Cid, and Vincent while Cloud's off daydreaming.

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kek, was that a subtle jab at the N64 by the programmers?

>tfw powergrind to fight the weapons before fighting Sephiroth and I never got to see his ultimate attack and just shat all over him instantly

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no, its the 7777 shit
that is how it works

besides, KEKFAG, fuck you

tifa is garbage the only reason anyone likes her is because she has massive tits
her ultimate weapon is garbage

You missed out on some serious shit.

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Don't know. I figured they just needed to cap it somewhere and decided ~500k damage was enough.

>Everyone in this thread calling Yuffie shit
I'm willing to forgive the Vincent dicksucking but not utter stupidity like this...goddamn people.

Tiffa and RedXIII are the only boring characters imo

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>wanting a bunch of homos in your party

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Ive been having yuffie as my healbitch buffer while Cloud and Tifa carry, should i just change her for cid since everyone says hes godlike

I like Red but his limits are just so awful.

Red and Tifa are both super strong early game but by the time you get Cid, you really don't ever need to use either again.

God hand and death blow nigger.

>nearly every FF7 speedrun uses Tifa

> Want physical attack based party
> Cloud
> Cid
> ..... ?

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I used Yuffie and Red XIII because I liked em.

Big NIg.

Barret

I've been meaning to replay this game, how does the switch version hold up? is the music bug thing fixed?

All of the characters are the same because of the materia system. YOU should just use your favourite characters.

>Giving a fuck about autism running

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Yeah but a casual or normal player wouldn't take advantage of those risky strats.

Tifa is incredible with precise management right out the gate. If you're not speed running, then the time to set up the other characters isn't a big deal.

Are all these FF7 threads happening lately because nintendogaf seriously never played it until the switch release?

fuck i laughed hard
Cid is optimal for AP grown since he gets a Double rate weapon with 8 slots
He's also one of only 2 characters to get a triple growth weapon (cloud being the other)
Also has one of the best limit breaks in the game
Plus he is just based in general

Tifa isnt physical attack based?

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Music was fine but the battles are 30 fps and it pisses me off way more than I expected it would.

>what are limits
>what is equipment

>speed running a jrpg
yike....

>not having a party of Aeris, Cait Sith, and Red 12

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My Cid is like 40 while yuffie is 50 (cliud and tifa are 51) is it worth the change now or just keep the party as is.

>TIFA IS GARBAGE
>speedrunners use her almost invariably because she can be set up to be the best character with minimal resources
>WHO CARES ABOUT HER BEING NOT GARBAGE

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>obscure glitches that only the most crazy of autists figure out and use
>mattering as far as the average person is concerned

see add in other support materia like added cut/steal/mp or hp absorb and she becomes a casual playthrough powerhouse

speed running is about finishing the game in the fastest time possible, not necessarily completing and exploring the game in its entirety
tifa objectively has a garbage ultimate weapon and her limit breaks suck
speed running a jrpg is fucktarded anyways
>hurr durr who can press x through hours and hours of dialogue the fastest

still not as bad as that one stretch between Don Cornello's place and Aeris' home. That place where the house demon attacks.

see

>tfw

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The 3x fast foward is nice and turning off enemy appearance is useful for when youre fucking dying.

>Abusing glitches and other obscure bullshit to speedrun a fucking JRPG of all things
>Mattering
Speedrunning is autism, take that shit somewhere else.

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>god hand with death blow
>garbage
thanks for telling us you never played the late game nigger.

banana

Uhh, did you play FF7? Vincent is a wimpy RETARDED cuck in that game, too.

Vincent sucks, dude.

you're the one moving the goalpost, retard
we are discussing best characters in general, not "best characters with minimal setup"

see

Change it, he will ketchup eventually

Cloud, Tifa and Cid, since they're the only ones with reliable Limit Break 4s that can also do more than 9999 damage without relying on exploits.

>the best character in general isn't the one that gets the best results with the least amount of resources

seeSpeedrunning will never not be retarded btw

Fast forward is fantastic for mid-battle cutscenes.

god hand is gay
double barrel r + death blow
has twice as many materia slots and can be used from the back row

>midgar zolom just shows up infinitely
Way to blow the tension, fuckers

Neither of those matter that much, ff7 is an easy game.

>not Cloud, Cid, Yuffie
lmao

If your goal was to prove that speed running and its subscribers aren't massive retarded autists, you backfired, badly
correct
the best character is the one that gets the best results, regardless of resources

>never used Yuffie and Barrets level3 limit breaks
Dumbass

Figures a NIGGER would be for talking back to mothers. No wonder the black conmunity makes such a meme about mothers hitting their kids. It’s cuz black kids are little shits

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Vincent sucks.

Patrician taste.

Did you figure out how to execute those glitches on your own? No? Then it wasn't with minimal effort. It was years of research by the entire community to figure out how to make Tifa do that.

I think near the end I had cloud cid and Vincent and then I think I only found red xiii's last weapon so he became stronger than vincent

So my final 3 were Cloud Cid and Red XII

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I rocked this team just because I thought they were cool, Vincent was a mute horror movie monster reference machine and Cid was just an angry shit talker who ran funny. Mixed with Clouds bipolar switch from stoic to bumbly friendly I thought it made the best 90s cop sitcom team ever.

Then that character would be Vincent after he gets over 65,000 or so kills because he can damage overflow everything in one hit with Death Penalty.
Meanwhile people who play the game normally will have beaten it several times over

>tfw aeris dies and ruins your all-girl squad
why

It's actually Cloud Barret and Yuffie.

I can google them and learn them all in less than 10 minutes

technically he can't one hit ruby
but yea it's still based

That moment was legit sadder than Aeris dying.

meh it was kind of corny
the tears falling didn't make sense
if he is dead how is he listening to their conversation and crying

Cloud Barret Yuffie

>there are people who didn't play the whole game through
>there are people who didnt get to see omislash
>there are people who didn't get to travel throught the wormhole in clouds mind
>there are people who didn't finish the best game of all time

SAD

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This is why being a furry is a mental illness

>there are people who didn't get omnislash before the final confrontation

Cloud makes a good girl so just keep her in

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Just because someone else does the work for you doesn't mean there was no effort.

its could yuffi cid

I would have but I accidentally beat it before I could go back out and save before the last fight.

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>its could yuffi cid
So this is the power of smart phones.
What a blessing that has been bestowed upon the internet.

HEHEHEHE

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There was very little on my part, or anyone else that decides to look them up. And if anything I'd say it's that effort that proves Tifa isn't garbage because the speedrunners are dedicated to finding what works best given the constraint of using what they can get by using up the least amount of time possible.

You need to clearly define what makes a character the best, and ease of use is retarded because anyone can beat FF7 if they waste enough time on it.

You forgot
>Vincent is raged and tus in the backrow
>Galian Beasts other attack is melee, so its damage is lowered because backrow
>can't change row anymore once transformed

>waaah waaah me no like vincent limits
jesus christ just give him sadness
It's funnier that way anyways if it always says SAD next to his picture since he's a massive sadboy

7777 Angermax Barret here

Everyone else is trash

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They had to sell strategy guides

This user knows what's up. 443 limit break set to jet

> along with cait sith
You don't know what you are talking about.

>optional party members

if a character is ugly, its physically weak in my opinion

Cloud, Red XIII, and Vincent for me. But Vincent could be swapped for Cid or Barret and I'd still be happy.

Have sex, incel.

Well, you obviously don't have Cait for his strength, but I tried him out for a bit because he was the first I got an 8 slot weapon for and he's a pretty good Mage

wtf is wrong with this guy?

It's cloud, vid, and red xiii by the value of their ultimate weapon passive alone

>god hand
Nigger, you get thst weapon late as fuck. Not even 30 minutes later you get conformer + W-Attack. And like 2 hours later you get the ap collector, ultima weapon and venus gospel.

>all these trash and clueless responses
lmao

Used Cloud, Cid, and Vincent during my first playthrough since they were cool. Afterwards I dropped Vincent because his limit is just so awful and his damage is kind of crap. Least he can be a good mage. Red XIII is pretty nice for mid game, but I find he falls off later on and usually get rid of him when I get Yuffie.

I put mystile + MP absorb on Vincent and he can spam Ultima from the backrow all day. Sure it's not optimal but pretty fun.

None of those things you've mentioned give you guaranteed critical damage and the ability to add any support materia to the deathblow command using multiple deathblow materia. You can also do this with Vincent once you get the Sniper CR in Nibelheim mountains.

>There are people who had the counter-attack materia equipped and never got to see omnislash at all.

Did you have a stroke, user? Because you are acting absolutely retarded.

>he didn't play the best Final Fantasy fangame

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fuck yuffie
marry aeris
kill tifa

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cloud, tifa and red xiii
like not even close, even though all ffvii characters are great

They give you a guaranteed 9999 hit and with w-attack twice that or with slash/mega all that on all enemies.

best party is Sabin + Gau + Mog + Umaro

Yeah even later in the game than getting the Godhand or Sniper CR and without the benefits of picking extra abilities like you can by pairing Deathblow with any of the blue support materia

Conformer gives you 9999 from the get go. Same with the others I mentioned as soon as you get them.

Sabin's a bro but his brother's always been on my team too along with Locke and Cyan

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well ffvii contains a lot of irony in this regard
tifa's body looks like it was absolutely built for fucking but her personality is just a regular girl next door
aeris meanwhile looks like a regular girl next door but her personality is like that of a sly jaded whore
yuffie is completely useless as a woman. personality is an annoying one-dimensional gag and is built like an ironing board
therefore the only answer is
fuck aeris
marry tifa
kill yuffie

Aeris is dead nayway, so why not

Fuck Yuffie (jailbait)
Marry Tifa
Let Aeris die, lol

>Conformer gives you 9999 from the get go
I don't remember this at all, you're gonna have to inform me or show me how that happens

Edgar, Sabin, Mog, and Setzer. I always keep the brothers together in my party.

you can still play with her body

Oh yeah, boy, let's see what ultra useful support materia we can pair it with:
>added cut
Incredibly easy to miss. You need to eincredibly lucky to find this materia or have meta game knowledge. In case of the latter you can get more out of the final weapons he listed. Especially when paired with w-attack.
>counter
Acquired in the literally last area of the game. And only a mastered counter gives a 100% proc chance.
>final attack
Useless in an easy game were you never die and phoenix would be a better link.
>hp/mp absorb
Latter being useless for a death blower, first is ok, but again, the game's too easy to be in ned of it.
>sneak attack
Incredibly specific and time consumingbto acquire and then you ned to grind it to master for an 80% chance of a first strike deathblow.
>steal as well
Don't even need to say anything here.

You are assuming players have meta game knowledge plus they take the time to mke multiple death blows. In that case you can assume they have knowledge on how to prepare the whole game long so the ultimate weapons deal their full potential plus they take the time to make 3 maatered w-attacks for quadrupel slashes, which blow death blow and the one time added cut completely out of the water.

But I wonder why I took my time to explain shit when you are obviously an idiot that doesn't know anything about the game.

>snowboard team
My nigga

Doesn't conformer scale up damage based on enemy level?

He counters even without it equipped senpai