Who is the biggest hack in the industry?

Todd Howard you dork.

>Kojima is a hac-

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They're all literal hacks who couldn't make it in a respectable media.

He is /ourguy/ . neck yourself turbo faggot.

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>Games with shit gameplay
>/ourguy/

Every western developer is a hack. There's no comparison between them, they are all hacks. Real gamers play Japanese games only.

>has been working on the game for four years
>still no gameplay shown
>but he has time to go to Tribeca to suck Norman Reedus' dick back and forth

Also, PLS BUY DEATH STRANDING SOCKS. DOESN'T MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKING INBRED OR ANYTHING.

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>Real gamers play Japanese games only.
I'm not a fan of casualized games that are more interested in being a movie than a game.

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Peter Molyneux

Kojima is objectively better than any western dev.

can someone give me a tldr of avellones meltdown on codex?

Back to plebbit, you casual filth.

Gabe

>Disliking casual movie games make me reddit filth

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>has written for numerous games since leaving obsidian
>NONE of them have had good writing, just middle of the road generic stuff
Starting to doubt he ever had any writing talents desu

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Mike Kirkbride.

lmao

To write in an AAA game today you have to have at least one best selling novel on your CV.

Ahem.

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cunt

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Max Payne is one hell of a movie game.

Wait. Sorry, comic game.

Also, RE4 has better gunplay. Which is the important part.

his writing isnt generic, its actively terrible, deliberately hard to parse drivel that takes itself way too seriously

>unironically calls Japanese games movie games

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based Kami

>Japanese games
>Not movie games

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Please stop embarrassing yourself further, it's painful to watch.

These. At least Cliff has been humbled by failure. Somebody still needs to break Pitchford's kneecaps.

you can only lean on past successes so much, and black Isle had a phenomenal team and writing across all their games at the time. judge avellone by his recent output and he is a shadow of his former self.

I'm not the one defending movie games.

>a game that has over 100 hours of gameplay has a lot of cutscenes

#wow#woah much epic

You could have posted a legitimate moviegame like MGS4, which can be beaten within AN HOUR AND A HALF, and has 9 hours of cutscenes.

Anyone writing stories for Blizzard games since its inception.

>At least Cliff has been humbled by failure
kek

>Persona
>Gameplay
Pressing X to advance through static dialog boxes is not gameplay.

Nomura, Tabata, Masuda, Ohmori, Inafune, Iizuka to name some nips.

this. I enjoyed the old MGS games, but as time goes on, I'm beggining to think that maybe Konami did the right thing by getting rid of him, and that Sony will find that out, soon enough.

>Nomura
>Hack
Good bait.

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I mean, there's little to no reason to assume that Death Stranding will anything other than a masterpiece.

based

Randy Pitchford.

Not only is the idiot obsessed with the word bad ass, he was also responsible for the Aliens: Colonel Marines disaster. Don't forget the fact that he and his wife required a personal assistant as well, who embezzled even more money from Randy further draining funds from their games. Lastly, there's the underage porn usb he left at a medieval times theme park. The guy just falls back on Borderlands, which also stole the cell shaded style.

I'll wait for the YouTube port

It is clearly Daivid Cage who is the biggest hack. How on earth can anyone say he makes games. How can anyone say that his 'games' are any good. How can no one choke on the onions faggottry in the terrible writing which is so obvious and clunky you would recieve less harm in a traffic pile up!

>fucked around with Versus XIII for EIGHT YEARS, not getting a single fucking thing done
>had to get it tugged away from him
>is doing the same with 7R

But he released a game over a decade ago that was good! Forget that it was a fucking enhanced re-release!

All the japanese games in that image are far more casual and mainstream than their western counterparts.

they have shown jackshit. The only thing I can assume is that it's going to be a walking simulator,or a Sony-style """game""", and if that's the case, you can bet your ass I'm gonna be fucking pissed

>sorry the game is behind schedule...I need to fly to America again for Geoff Keighley to clean my cock off again

clearly david cage

It's not Nomura's fault that Square butchered his baby. Versus XIII, under Nomura, was shaping up to be absolute kino, and he just needed more time.

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>RE4 has better gunplay.
in what areas?

How does Kojima get away with it?

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kojima should just team up with tim schafer at this point. we'd have the same amount of material in the same span that both games have been in development combined for double, nay, triple the budget of both combined.

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If you don't even have a remotely close to being finished game after EIGHT YEARS. You have an issue.

>Max Payne is one hell of a movie game.
>Wait. Sorry, comic game.
>Also, RE4 has better gunplay. Which is the important part.
How do you figure that?

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I'm gonna say John Romero.

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>Casual spotted
cool story bro

>I need jumping in my horror games
>WHY CAN'T I SHOOT SHIT REALLY FAST REEEE FUCKING CASUALS

>old MGS games
Really, a lot of that is owed to pic related. Kojima really gets too much credit.

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Who are you to say how close the game was to being finished?

I have no idea what it is about this guy, nothing he says or does offends me or makes me angry, but I really fucking hate his face and it looks very punchable to me. I have no idea why.

If you need more than eight years to make a game, you're doing something wrong.

They also wouldn't have restarted development if it was anywhere near done.

>RE4, a game where enemies will drop ammo the lower you are on it and is loaded with QTEs
>Horror game

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You do realize the inability to move while shooting vastly reduces the skill ceiling and complexity of gameplay and makes combat ncounters far more static? It's a valid criticism.

>I need jumping in my horror games
RE4-6 are not horror games, they're action games, so lack of jumping is a valid criticism.

Besides, they do have contextual jumping prompts, so good job on undermining your own argument

>RE4
>horror game

What was Versus going to be anyway? From what the trailer looked like, it was going to be sme mafia gang warfare shit?

No one is a bigger hack than Tim Schaefer. This is a man who is literally incapable of designing a game properly. It worked fo his adventure games, you just make shit up as you go along and come up witht he most retarded cryptic solution.

Every game he had made after lucasarts had terrible development. He cannot manage time or budget at all, throws random design ideas together that dont work and so everyone has to spend more time fixing them. His games always get dropped by the publisher and he needs to get a new one to pick it up.

Psychonauts was unplayable and they had to remake the entire game halfway through development.
Brutal legend plays like ass and like kotick said he never met a single milestone.
Broken Age is garbage, he gets 3.3M based on the shittiest clip alone and it is just because his shitty name is on the product.... and then the game goes over budget... again. And then he needs more money to make a second part because he couldn't finish the game.
Not to mention this dude insists the studio must be in expensive fuck San Francisco which kills the budget. All so he can be close to his sjw nigger friends and hang out with Anita and Phil Fish. Associating with Fish likely means he is involved in indie racketeering circles as well.

So yeah, he is a bigger hack than everyone. Not saying Kojima isnt a hack, but at least he gave us 3 excellent games that handled their themes well and had great gameplay, he just got way too big for his britches and death stranding will suck.

to be honest i find the over the shoulder camera much much better then the regular third person . I loved max payne 1 and 2 but god damn comparing those two games is just plain retarded they try to accomplishe dirreferent things .

This. Avellone's sarcastic genius characters with a dark past are badass as fuck and often I identify with them the most

Except the game was very clearly in a playable state.
youtube.com/watch?v=vkZvdT3QS4k

those are your instincts telling you how much of a scumbag this dude is .

Oh please, it was in development hell while it was under Nomura.
When he gave it over to Tabata, it was still an incomplete pile of shit.
There was point during the development, where Nomura wanted to turn it into a musical.

Kojima is a fucking hack and you have shit taste.

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>Max Payne brought bullet time to games
>not casual

All the lore and mythos for XV come's from VXIII, if I'm not mistaken, so I'd imagine it'd be comparable to what we got in XV.

We all know who

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>Thief
Who ?

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>Max Payne is one hell of a movie game.

youtube.com/watch?v=t7_euV9oUJ0

youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3x0Q1Ub-o

Resident Evil 4 cutscene length is nearly twice as high

Also, most Max Payne cutscenes are graphic novels that act as interludes between missions and therefore do not interrupt gameplay, unlike most of Re4's cutscenes.

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This.

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>to be honest i find the over the shoulder camera much much better then the regular third person .
My sincere condolences.

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That's a pretty low bar to overcome

Looks like a casual wrote this.

>bawwww I can't see everything at once...it's too hawwwddd

git gud

>another thread full of buttblasted western retards angry nobody cares about their shit games
Turns out stacking mechanics on top of each other while having a shitty foundation for design doesnt work. It's no surprise wRPGs died.

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>Kojima is objectively better than any western dev.

>better than any western dev
>it took until the early 2000's for his games to implement the basic feature of hiding bodies, a feature other stealth games have had since 1984

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If is so bad why 90% of the shooter that came out after RE4 use the over the shoulder camera ?

>Kojima
>Games
Literally the Japanese equivalent of David Cage.

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>another buttblasted weeb angry that people are calling out his shitty movies

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>If is so bad why 90% of the shooter that came out after RE4 use the over the shoulder camera ?
To make shooters accessible to the lowest common denominator, by effectively taking movement out of the equation and forcing you to a crawl whn you aim.

The same thing happened with FPS and iron sights.

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At least the mother fuckers is a good meme

Who the hell defends Yakuza? They're movie games with Bamham tier combat.

>have to stop, which makes you vulnerable

Sounds good.

>another westard angry that someone calls ou-
Oh wait, no one cares enough about western garbage to do that

>Who the hell defends Yakuza?
Is this your first day on Yea Forums?

yeah being aesthetically pleasing have nothing to do with it .

There's a designated button to make the camera switch shoulders in MP3. Literally a case of git gud.

seething

This. Kojima is the biggest jap hack and he's still better than any western dev

kojima

metal gear's story is trash

>Braindead, shallow combat
>Assassin's Creed tier rehashes with reusing maps and assets
>Hours of cutscenes and dialog
Yakuza games are not games that Yea Forums would defend.

>RE4 has better gunplay
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

probably kojima or molyneux

avellones not really that prolific of an industry figure, people outside of nma and rpdcodex dont have any idea who the fuck he is, he isnt selling out for shit all, hes just incapable of writing more than one generic story structure in a specific needlessly wordy, esoteric fashion

nobody on Yea Forums know what "hack" means anyway

Hack means 'person I don't like', on Yea Forums.

>guns actually feel good to shoot
>large variety of them at that
>it's more satisfying to pop someone's head off

>pleb only knows shit games made for retards

shocker

Poor, poor crying western cuck reduced to deflection. No one cares about western games, they're trash. Every single wRPG is forgotten 2 years after release for a good reason unless a community heavily mods it (i.e. fixes the garbage since western deva are trash.) Chrono trigger alone will forever keep westcucks in a perpetual state of asshurt and inferiority.

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Durance makes my dick so fucking hard.

Cope.

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Why would I seethe? People care about Japanese games, nobody except about 10 fat fucks living in their mom's basements still care about garbage like planescape torment.

What a fucking pleb

You got baited m8. His "bam ham tier combat" argument is the usual shitposting technique in Yakuza threads.

Yea Forums contrarian brigade constitutes a tiny portion of the gaming industry, pull up something more relevant like gamefaqs and compare the two. Western games are a joke to be forgotten by the time next generation comes

Explain to me how this isn't Bamham tier.

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>nobody except about 10 fat fucks living in their mom's basements

Projection. You just described the target audience for trash like Automata and Persona.

which thief level is that

It's much more exciting than your usual bamham game

What about that list is contrarian?

Persona and nier are normie tier now. They've also sold far more than any cRPG trash ever has despite not even being close to the highest selling jrpgs . Even wRPGs abandoned cRPGs because they were so bad

itsokaywhenjapandoesit.txt

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Kek, this thread is pretty hilarious. Japan does not make interesting game mechanics very often outside of Mario.

>Mashing a single button is more exciting than mashing a single button

Yeah, too bad they sold aeons more than Torment sold.

How about the fact that the #1 game is peak contrarian tier. New Vegas is slightly less shit than fallout 3 so contrarians dogpile on it like rats to cheese

>Persona and nier are normie tier now

cope

Who knew that I need to mash buttons to play a video game

>Persona and nier are normie tier now. They've also sold far more than any cRPG trash ever has

Divinity: original sin 2 outsold persona 5 despite being made with a fraction of the budget and dev time

wccftech.com/divinity-original-sin-2-85m-revenue-2017/

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>Popularity is a metric of quality

Correct, unless you want to admit I'm right nobody other than 10 fatfucks give a fuck about planescape torment since that game is far less relevant. God what a horrible genre cRPGs were.

it's ok to finish a statement, user.

D-d-delete this!

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>85 million revenue is the best cRPGs can come up with
Holy fuck lmao what a joke

If cRPGs ever had quality they wouldnt be dead

It's not healthy to be this mad.

E1M6 lol

Persona 5 has made way more than 85 million revenue, it's at 2.7 million sales now. It's also not high budget, it's a ps3 game released in 2016

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>85 million revenue is the best cRPGs can come up with
>Holy fuck lmao what a joke

You say that, yet jrpgs released in 2017, such as Persona 5, Nier: automata and xenoblade chronicles 2, are nowhere to be seen on that list.

In other words, divinity: original sin 2 outsold them all.

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Pathetic projection

Both those games have higher revenue than divinity

>Persona 5 has made way more than 85 million revenue, it's at 2.7 million sales now. It's also not high budget

>bigger team size and longer development time than Skyrim
>not high budget

It's amazing how incompetent Atlus is.

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>Persona 5 has made way more than 85 million revenue

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>Shit talk one of the best series ever made
>He thinks he's not a retard
cool story bro

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>Persona 5 has made way more than 85 million revenue
So why didn't it make that list? It's a list of the games in 2017 that made the most revenue. It's especially egregious when you consider that Persona 5 came out early in 2017, while Divinity came out late in 2017.

>it's at 2.7 million sales now.
How many of those were discounted?

And at any rate, it's been years since Divinity 2 came out as well. It has probably sold more than 2.7 million copies.

Are you implying skyrim isnt low budget? It's the same engine and base as previous tes games

Sold 2.7 million, most at launch at 60. Do the math

How many of those were discounted? Far less than divinity or most PC games I'd say

>worst and most casual stealth series ever made
>written by a hack with the mentality of a teenager
>themes are a bunch of conspiracy nonsense and/or pseudo-intellectual post-mo crap
>90% of all characters are wacky insane idiots with completely flat personalities
>gameplay becomes more broken with each new installment
>lots of shitty boss battles despite that they're supposed to be stealth games

>One of the series responsible for the casualization and moviefication of games
>One of the best series ever made
>Posts a zoomer wojak
How many levels of irony is this post operating under?

based fukushima poster.

>MGS
>One of the best series ever made
This is one of the most zoomer opinions i've ever seen.

>>getting this assblasted.
yikes.

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>why doesn't it make the list
Console cut off is a lot higher than the PC list. Are you really stupid enough that I had to explain that to you? Oh wait, dont answer that, you're a crpg fan

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Omg I freaking love Persona it's like a cool and adult version of Pokemon!

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Cope.

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todd howard

ITT: 50 retards with different definitions of 'hack' whine about people they don't like.

also I don't care about your opinions unless you post an example of a person you think is actually good in comparison.

Persona is söy repellent.

Ken Levine

Didnt even bother opening up that image, console cut off from YOUR source is 175 million vs non free to play PC games being under 80 million. This is your source, not mine. Everything from this point on is cope on your end. I'm primarily a PC player by the way

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>It's no surprise wRPGs died.
WRPGs beat the fuck out of JRPGs today in both fame and sales.

Mhm.

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That's nice, Skyrim sold 30 million.

WoW alone has outgrossed the entire FF franchise.

>fame
Literally nobody gives a shit about any wRPG aside from witcher 3 this gen

>sales
Pokemon sells more than any wRPG despite being exclusive, inb4 some kind of cope or delusion as to why pokemon doesnt count. Several jrpgs have also sold multiple millions this generation aside from pokemon, the only thing that sells that much are Bethesda shit and witcher 3. Outside of that I dont think any wrpg this gen hit 2 million.

This fucking guy
This fucking guy is such a bullshitter, but I still like him

D:OS2 is already seen as a modern classic.

Skyrim is last gen (the one gen japs fucked up on until the end.) WoW has constantly been on a decline and a continuation of an MMO for multiple gens ago. Consider ffxiv does far better than any other MMO

He's adorable.It's simply impossible to not love him.

>Pokemon sells more than any wRPG despite being exclusive,
WoW alone has made more money than all of the Pokemon games. And if you're counting fucking Pokemon as an RPG then I get to count Sims and Minecraft.

>That's nice, Skyrim sold 30 million.
Not only that, but it undoubtedly cost far less to make than FFXV with its troubled and protracted development cycle.

Fallout 4 sold even more than Skyrim.

>wRPGs died
>Witcher 3
>Divinity: original sin 1/2
>Cyberpunk 2077
>VTM: bloodlines 2
weebs are so delusional

By who? You and your 3 DnD obsessed friends? Let's assume I give you divinity (even though it doesnt come close to any game revered this gen) what then do you have? Divinity is all you can fall back on, despite it garnering about as much attention as the average jrpg worldwide

I don't doubt that FO4 sould incredibly well but do you have any sources for your claim?

Why do you keep trying to assert that popularity is some metric of quality?

gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-surpasses-skyrim-to-become-bethesdas-mos/1100-6447621/

No, it hasn't. You are taking revenue of a single updated product into consideration for a game that's been produced for over 15 years, not profit. Any pokemon game aside from gen 3 and 5 have made more profit than WoW has, especially considering WoW's dwindling sub rate since lich king. WoW is a complete joke compared to pokemon sales wise, compare what the pokemon series has made in the last 15 years go what WoW has in the same time frame. WoW is an MMO anyway and doesn't fall in line with wRPGs so I dont know why you brought it up, probably out of desperation due to a lack of relevant wRPGs

>most successful game launched
>launched
Means nothing, ffxv had the most successful launch of any FF game yet it has average sales for FF despite being multiplat. Skyrim is by far and away Bethesda's most successful title, it sells even today with shit like the switch version while fallout 4 is dead

You realize that their parent company died halfway through development of p5 right?

>You are taking revenue of a single updated product into consideration for a game that's been produced for over 15 years,
Every WoW expansion pack has more content than what Pokemon would call a full game.
>Any pokemon game aside from gen 3 and 5 have made more profit than WoW has,
Source: your ass.
>compare what the pokemon series has made in the last 15 years go what WoW has in the same time frame
WoW grossed $10 billion, Pokemon does not come remotely close.
>WoW is an MMO anyway and doesn't fall in line with wRPGs
WoW is far more of an RPG than Pokemon you desperate cretin. And the bulk of Pokemon's franchise revenue in the last decade came from a ducking mobile game. If we exclude that then WoW's even more dominant.

Mentioned already
Who?
Not out and seems to have stripped all rpg elements like fallout 4
Who? and not out

This is pretty sad if it's the most you could muster, if I'm going to be honest. There are more relevant jrpgs released in a single year vs an entire generation of wrpgs

My popularity? I've been bringing up sales figures, all higher than divinity. You're the idiot stupid enough to argue divinity is more popular than persona 5, you dug your own hole

kys cuck

It's not just the most successful launch, it's more successful than Skyrim at equivalent distances from release at least a year and a half later.

Skyrim sold more than 20 million, more than 2/3 of lifetime sales, in its first two years.

Cope.

shit bait, kys fucking retard

>pokemon does not come close
Pokemon is the highest selling entertainment property of all time you fucking moron. Even only constraining it to the games, they have made more than 10 billion gross in the last 15 years compared to wow. Hold up why am I even wasting my time on this if WoW isnt a wrpg?

You don't even need to bring up titans like Fallout, Warcraft, and TES to btfo these numbers. Even Witcher 3 sold over 10 million within a year of release.

Your doing quite a lot to cope with your pathetic list of irrelevant games

No sales have been revealed for fallout 4 after the launch period, I highly doubt fallout 4 has been doing better than skyrim

>source: my ass

>WoW isnt a wrpg?
It's more of an RPG than Pokemon which is the last desperate stronghold of weebs.
>Even only constraining it to the games, they have made more than 10 billion gross in the last 15 years compared to wow.
No they haven't. Nowhere close.
>but muh wikipedia
Wikipedia "calculates" this by multiplying sales numbers by $40 or $60, assuming every game sold at full price. This is complete nonsense as most Nintendo games are sold heavily discounted later in their life cycle. And it also doesn't factor in that 2/3 if the revenue goes to retailers in physical sales. WoW's revenue number on the other hand comes straight from Blizzard.

David Cage, without question.

We were given numbers for over a year after the release, it was selling better than Skyrim for that whole time.

>most Nintendo games are sold heavily discounted later in their life cycles
What the fuck am I reading, Nintendo discounts their games the least out of any company, especially the heavy hitters like pokemon. Pokemon x and y are essentially at full price on Amazon right now.

>pokemon is the last bastion of jRPGs
Yeah, it's not like there are multiple other multi million seller jrpgs this gen. Funny how you call pokemon the last bastion but have to bring in an MMO when discussing wrpgs

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What numbers? Were they NPD? That's north America only. how about the drop off after a year? Skyrim still moves units (was on top selling switch games list in 2018 iirc) whereas I havnt seen F4 in years

>pokemon is the last desperate stronghold for weebs
He says as he has to use an MMO from almost 3 generations ago to defend wRPGs

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The numbers are directly from Bethesda.
pcgamesn.com/fallout-4/fallout-4-bethesda-most-successful-game

>Q: I'm interested in knowing how F4 did "more than Skyrim"? It can't be in copies sold or shipped?
>Pete Hines: i'm comparing them over the same period of time. and yes (2017)

That's quite ambiguous, especially considering it came from Hine's filthy mouth. I'll believe it when I see the actual total sales figures

>RE4
>horror

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>the latest Final Fantasy game is outsold 3-1 by the 20-30 million level of Fallout and Elder Scrolls and reduced to competing at the 5-10 million level of Witcher and Mass Effect
That's just pathetic. FF15 might not even beat Fallout: New Vegas's lifetime numbers (12 million copies sold as of 2015) and that was a budget niche game running primarily on recycled assets and rushed out in 18 months.

This faggot.
Regarded as the one who made every Pokemon even though he made few ones and all of them are non-creative and very lazy and boring designs.

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When it comes to gamefreak, no one is a bigger hack than misuda

"It sold better than Skyrim at equivalent distances from release date, right now, a year and a half after it launched" isn't really that ambiguous.

Bare minimum Fallout 4 has done 20 million thus far, which is what Skyrim did in in its first two years. Considering Fallout 4 actually got more extensive DLC than Skyrim and broader normie appeal (medieval fantasy vs sci-fi ADS cover shooter) I don't see any reason to think that the trend of the first year wouldn't continue throughout its lifetime, putting eventual lifetime sales over 30 million, but it doesn't even need those kinds of numbers to still be titanic compared to the largest JRPGs.

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Masuda was a good director until Gen5.
Now he became a retarded moron ever since he decided that mobile gaming is the future of gaming.

But Sugimori? been a shitty artist since day 1 and only good for coloring other artists Pokemon.

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>Pokemon sells more than any wRPG
If Pokemon counts as a JRPG just because it has stats, leveling, XP, abilities, and inventory management, then Minecraft counts as a WRPG. And Minecraft sold over 160 million copies across all platforms, which is more than the entire last decade of Pokemon by far. Pokemon's sales numbers are also artificially inflated by discounted handheld sales that have less content (and often sell at a lower price) than many WRPG expansion packs.

Based.

Randy Pitchcunt

counter argument

sports games are WRPGs because they have those things too and they sell even better than both of them combined

phil fish