Protagonist dies at the end of the game

>you kill the protagonist in the next game

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Tony didn't die though

YOU WANNA BE A BIG BAD GUY CHRISTAFUH

Mr Salieri sends his regards

>mc gets cloned
>mc exchanges his gf with clones gf

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a rogue comet should have crashed down onto their table and obliterated the family, they were all totally unlikable goombah trash by the end of the series

>there are unironically people living and breathing RIGHT NOW in 2019 who think Tony didn't have his lights punched out in the last episode
Loving every laugh

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whats bigger sopranos or GOT?

Fucking gantz what a clusterfuck of a story.

>I'll never pass the drug test

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>Protagonist "dies" at the end but you obviously know he coming back seeing he's the main character of the fucking franchise.
Sorry Nomura, but I'm not a bluepilled moron. I'm fucking done with this series forever.

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It's open to interpretation
Basically it's what you want it to be, and I want Tony to live so fuck you, you foockin hewa.

I'm tempted to say The Sopranos. GoT might just feel bigger because of more people with Internet access, active on social media than 15-20 years ago. The fact that people still talk about the Sopranos and meme it today, as opposed to Oz or The Wire or fucking Sex and the City is telling.

he got exactly what he deserved

It's weird how as the show goes on Tony becomes worse of a psychopath.
Melfi is a pretty terrible psychiatrist.

>Main Antagonist dies after the tutorial stage

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GoT is deffinitely bigger at the moment
But I feel that Sopranos will be remembered far longer.

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Even if Tony wasn't a full sociopath she still was enabling him.

Guessing Melfi was just keeping him around because of the thrill of the mob life and the safety net of having Tony whack someone. She could of read up on sociopaths any time but only did when confronted.

Everyone on that show was a shit person, especially enablers like Meadow and Carmela

Sopranos didn't dip in quality as bad as got if at all sopranos had a few bad episodes got has a few terrible seasons.

>Guessing Melfi was just keeping him around because of the thrill of the mob life and the safety net of having Tony whack someone.
Yet oddly enough she doesn't tell him about the rapist.

yeah that was pretty crazy

also how what her face sister just got randomly killed by the Killbane or the wrestler fuck. From how much those two were used as marketing and from how cocky they were in the story you thought for sure they were there to stay at least until a boss fight but holy fuck.

looking back this series had some surprisingly dark moments especially the whole Maero plot.

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There is literally nothing wrong with this

>Not watching the Secret Ending

user, they screamed at you that we are getting DDD 2.0

So did Tony

I still talk about The Wire...

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Get a load of this Ziggy.

Malaka? I'll show you malaka!

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>It's open to interpretation
Not really, the writer has stated that there is a specific ending and that everything is present in the scene to reach a conclusion

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The dude killed 16 Czechoslovakians! He was an interior decorator!

His house looked like shit

WTF? what's your fucking problem dude? I'm at season 3 and you have to fucking spoil it, fucking idiot

>user, they screamed at you that we are getting DDD 2.0
Nothing would be better then DDD 2.0

which is?

Paulie survives.

Member's Only guy kills tony. They telegraph so hard for the entire last season. How many times do they say "There's only two ways out of this, dead or in jails" and "when it happens you don't see it coming"?
masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/

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Justified from his point of view. Chris had clear revenge fantasies (the movie), had a drug problem, didn't like Tony, and couldn't be trusted to keep a secret. On top of all that, the FBI was looming around.

>character you try to save from the very beginning of the game dies anyway

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>got has a few terrible seasons.
Yeah, all of them.

>entered a thread for show that began airing two decades ago expecting no spoilers about the show
You have no one to blame but yourself you mongoloid

>entered a thread
>what is catalog view
are you retarded?

Hold up a minute Ton', where tha fuck are we?

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Hey Sil, ya hear what I said? I said hold up a minute Ton', where tha fuck are we?

Better than leaving it open for a sequel that completely ruins the original.

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>protagonist is the antagonist by the ending

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>protagonist returns as the target of an escort quest
>you can fail without a game over and the epilogue shames you for it

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First season was one of the best adaptations of a book I've seen to date season was still good anything after the quality drops real hard.

retarded zoomer

>Protagonist was dead all along.

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It was well made sure, but GoT is just shit material in the first place, so the adaptation ended up shit too even though they did the best adaptation job that could be reasonably expected of them.

>Antagonist did nothing wrong

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>Protagonist commited suicide before the start.

>people unironically root for Tony
BAKA

Yes but she knew she had the power to tell him which would have almost certainly led to the rapist's death.

She gets off on having that power over people, even if the people in question are unaware of it.

Tone just passed out again, that's it. Retards who said he died are just that, retards. He did all he had to do and everything was fine, he just got overwelmed by his feels, thinking about his lads.
Zoomer and "boomer" fags need to an hero ASAP. Doomers are the real brains of this generation.

>The gods have abandoned me...

You’ve had 12 years to watch it faggot, it’s way outside the statute of limitations. Fucking spoiler babies I swear

Peak GoT for me is better than peak Sopranos but Sopranos was of a consistently higher quality overall. GoT has been shit for the past two seasons but Seasons 3 and 4 were incredible kino. Any scene with Charles Dance in it in particular were some of the best scenes I've witnessed in television

>mr bean
GET BEANED

Dumb anime posting xigger.

The Haibanes weren't all suicides, at least. Though yes, Rakka probably was.

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kek

>side character kills the dauwg

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>one of your party members have smoking hot legs

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The correct term is mulignan, ya fanouk.

Where the hell are these theories about Tony being dead all along coming from? I don't even watch the series but I'm just curious due to how batshit they are.

>Morally dubious character is told he only has one last chance at redemption.
>He somehow becomes even more morally repulsive.

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>tfw no therapist-mommy gf

Not very batshit honestly the show keeps hinting at death throughout the whole last season the very last episode begins with Tony being In a makeshift casket.

>He didn't get the secret ending

>Bad guy and hero kill each other twice over the course of their fight
>Yet they still somehow both make it out of it alive
>Also the fight took 20 IRL years to finish, making up 80% of the series it was part of.

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After uncle Junior shoots Tony?

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Good shit.

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Now post the stoneline.

Literally TMNT #1

Don't have it, sadly.

This is some faggot pacifist run. Post the real shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU

I dunno about that, just googled and wikipedia'd it. So that's a divergence point between Uncle Junior shooting Tony, who then lives or dies?

>character heavily featured on the game's cover, advertisements, and posters dies in the first 10 minutes

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He was doomed from the start his work and the way he wanted to live life wouldn't coincide he just decided to embrace it.

>Tony
>morally dubious
It's made pretty fucking obvious early on that Tony's a sociopath who's probably never going to change

Saint's Row 2 is one of the best if you want to be a pretty vicious psychopath who's also a pretty cool guy/gal at the same time

Did you miss everything after he gets out of the coma? He genuinely tried to be a better person but just reverted and actually became worst than what he was originally.

>Game's selling point is it's grey morality and equally standing factions
>One of them is obviously shown as the good guys and even gets on cover art and the game's loading screen
Wtd

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>Did you miss everything after he gets out of the coma?
Did you miss nearly every major recurring character in the show being an enormous piece of shit with huge flaws? There's nothing 'dubious' about any of their morality

Games for this feel?

You are shown throughout the whole game how flawed the ncr is and how many people get fucked over by them.

Yet they are portrayed as the sensible solution everyone neutral in game wants and the lesser evil, with npcs acting like real people while the legion has a total of 5 talkable npcs, one of witch finds it funny to tear apart a slave cholds teddy bear.
You get good karma for killing centurions in the final battle.

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Legion was mostly unambiguous but you forgot House.

Except tony's his panic attacks are directly derived from his work because hes forced to do this horrible shit. He loves parts of it but others just makes him wish he was dead. if all you got from the show is people are sociopaths I feel sorry for you.

the game should have ended here, isaac should have died

>if all you got from the show is people are sociopaths
Who the fuck said that you blithering retard? I said Tony is a sociopath. Did you really need to have it spelled out more for you after the scene where Melfi sits down, is reading a psychology textbook and the text appears in giant letters on screen about how they have huge sentimentality for animals/babies and treat therapy as just another aspect of their criminal enterprise?
>his panic attacks are directly derived from his work because hes forced to do this horrible shit
Nobody 'forced' him to do anything you fucking idiot. Did he have his panic attack after looking at the box of Uncle Ben's after mouthing off to Meadow's nigger boyfriend because of the 'horrible shit' he was just forced to do a moment earlier? lmao

CAHMELLA COULD YOU PLEASE SHUT THE DAAAAAAAAAAAAW

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He was forced into the mob life and regrets it fully you can meme your way out of this if you want want but hes one of the most complex characters in tv show history just calling him a sociopath is a cheap way out.
> Did you really need to have it spelled out more for you after the scene where Melfi sits down, is reading a psychology textbook and the text appears in giant letters on screen about how they have huge sentimentality for animals/babies and treat therapy as just another aspect of their criminal enterprise?
That is the shittiest thing they ever did in the show and completely ruins a lot of Tony's allure. That is if you take it at face value which your brainlet ass did.
Tony showed plenty of empathy towards others in the show which sociopaths apparently cant have one specific example is that cop who had his life ruined for writing tony a ticket He clearly felt bad about him to the point he wanted to give him money to make up for what he did.
Faggot.

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NIGGA I JUST STARTED THIS WHY

>oh no you spoiled something older than me.
Rosebud is a sled.

Meme argument that eventually bites everyone in the ass. It's a very sharp double edged sword.

COMFORTABLY NUMB

only brainlets care about spoilers anyway

You're a retard, the show depicts Tony as someone who grew up with a severely borderline mother, fuck she even tried having Tony murdered because she was bored in that nursery home Tony put her in.
His dad is also a sociopath and when Tony grew up he accidentally caught his father torturing a man to death and enjoying every second of it, which is the entire reason he keeps passing out.

The fact is that Tony and his sister could have stepped out of that life but instead decided to be exactly like their own parents, Janice being a carbon copy of her mother alongside her mother's addiction to being around violence and anger all the time, and Tony being a carbon copy of his dad.

How did you miss the fact that tony shows an unrealistic sympathy to animals, or the fact that he passes out whenever his job requires him to do something exceptionally violent?

The fact that Tony changed after nearly dying is because as he himself said, the life he chose is either death or prison, and he keeps avoiding both only by sheer luck. The final two seasons really show how deranged he becomes, starting to get viciously violent, making terrible decisions that negatively impact the entire family, and dealing with any form of feedback by threats and murder.

At the end of the show Tony barely sees his children anymore, he completely fucked up his relationship with his wife that is sort of bound to him now through his financial support and because she doesn't want to give up the luxuries, has murdered his entire line of succession and all of his top earners, and turned everyone that can be considered his friends and family cold towards him.
Notice how everyone in the show goes from being kind to Tony to talking shit behind his back and pulling the ropes where Tony isn't looking, he can't run the family for shit near the end, and it's been implied several times already that Jackie was the best choice out of all of them.

>He was forced into the mob life
Forced by who? His personality wasn't forced upon him you fucking idiot. It's shown throughout flashbacks in the show that his upbringing and seeing what his father got up to had a huge influence on why he became the man he was in the present day, but nobody took a gun to his head and forced him into that lifestyle. He made the choice, which is why he spends all 6 seasons initially trying to shield his children from the truth and then ultimately trying to steer AJ away from it
>460968761
>That is the shittiest thing they ever did in the show and completely ruins a lot of Tony's allure
You're an even bigger retard for thinking that scene somehow deconstructs everything that had been built up previously regarding Tony's character and that anyone referring to him as a sociopath is just disregarding the rest of his character or everything else we know about him
>Tony showed plenty of empathy towards others in the show which sociopaths apparently cant have
There's no one clear-cut definition of what a sociopath is, but it's generally agreed upon that they're anti-social personalities who lack any kind of a strong conscience and are highly manipulative, which is Tony in a nutshell.

GoT is way bigger because it got more mainstream attention worldwide. Sopranos is way, way better though.

Is there anything somewhat comparable to Sopranos or The Wire? I don't watch a lot of TV so I'm not really in the know but these two were really great.

I've also watched others - Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, The Newsroom and so on - and liked them to varying degrees but a lot of them become unfocused at some point and turn into glorified soap operas to appease the female audience.

No, not really.

>the game dies at the protagonist's end

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OZ is pretty good

Honest answer?
No there hasn't been and we will probably never get it considering you have to strike a good balance between realism and entertainment, and America's current obsession with portrayal of a character's identifiers rather than showing a complex and layered character. That was a time in shows and film as a whole where people really wanted this kind of realistic content, but that time simply no longer exists.

A show like The Sopranos just wouldn't fly anymore if you realize that the show was about a hyperconservative and very religious crime family that was openly racist and homophobic, with all members having a stay at home trophy wife. all the while defending the characters at the same time by pointing out their upbringing, Italian culture, Christianity, and the cutthroat temperament of its members.

Would you really want a show like Sopranos nowadays? Imagine how dumb and shallow it would be.

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Thanks, mate, I'll keep it in mind.

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He wasn't forced. He didn't have to do it. He could've been a successful coach. I agree that he's one of the most complex tv characters in history, but he was a sociopath, too, much like a lot of members of organized crime.

I don't want Sopranos 2.0 - 2019 Edition, I just want something good.

i love this scene

OZ is pretty damn good, but it doesn´t reach the level of Sopranos or The Wire desu

death by proxy I would call it

I honestly can't think of a single show and I don't know what is.

Oz is set in a prison. Lots of violence, rape and (gay) sex. It has a lot of famous and semi-famous actors as well. It´s really good, you should give it a try.

I'll retract my forced to do this line of work statement clearly I am in the wrong.

tales of zestiria?

Warcraft 3 custom campaign Malfurions quest. Drink the fountain

Breaking Bad was really good, despite how mainstream it is.

I'm not intersted in watching gay sex and rape, so no thanks.

I heard True Detectives first season was the real deal. Haven't seen it yet.

>He doesn´t want to see an uncensored, graphic scene of some ripped gay guy taking a piss

Wow, turbosupergay, user

It´s really good, just not Wire/Sopranos-good

On a scale of 1 to 10, how gay was Phil Leotardo

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Faggot-ass cornholing cocksucker like what married his cousin/10

I respect you for having the balls to say you were wrong, lad. Fair play. I'm on my third rewatch. Go back and take it all in. Also check out Sopranos Autopsy, dude on that site has some very good deconstructions of each episode that give good insight

He should fucking die!

The turd doesn't fall far from the faggot's ass

PUERTO RICAN HOOER

NIggertype 2

Not him but give me a rundown. Why did he fuck up that alcoholic guy (forgot his name) just because he was in debt? They grew up in school together. That was when I saw Tony as a Sociopath. He even took his sons car for Meadow.

YOU GONNA TAKE CARE OF HIS KIDS?

T gave him every chance to back out but at the end of the day, his business thrives of gullible weak gamblers like him.

Why should he bother stopping him? He warned him, thats good enough for Tone. After all it was his fault

Tony was able to just seamlessly switch between being a friend and being a business associate because of her personality. He warned him time and time again that he was in over his head and what the consequences would be if he decided to come in at the deep end. Christopher did the same thing with the Hollywood writer he was in AA with, though to a more comical degree

>protagonist had like a half-dozen radiation immune companions who could have pressed the win button
>NO THIS IS MY FAIRY TALE THE PROTAGONIST MUST BE SACRIFICED

The ending was spoiled for me before I ever watched the show, it's still great. The ending is just a tiny part of it. It's a six season TV show, not an M Night Shamalama movie.

>don't watch it if you didn't see it 12 years ago
literally braindead

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>wojak poster
You deserve it.

Objective: SURVIVE

I imagine GoT fans also thought Lost was the best show during its time.

>Sex and the City
Unironcally deserves credit just for being the first show to start the trend of worthwhile TV. Before SATC TV was completely braindead soap opera and laughter soundtrack shows.

GOT is bigger but Sopranos is the best

Any other good mafia tv series? I only know of Sopranos and Gomorra.