*ahem*

Y'ALL BETTER BE NEUTRAL

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>dagda
>villain

*refuses handshake*

*toot toot*

>When everyone gets mad at you for being neutral

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I'm always a neutralchad

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his theme sounds pretty evil
youtube.com/watch?v=uk9CRjrWa0w

Neutralfags are the worst.
Law is the only rightful path for man.

>tfw despite neutral+ being one of the more depressing endings, the presentation was pure kino

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>tfw never played IV:A because couldn't tell if main character was a femboy or a dyke and that in itself is a redflag

>wanting humanity to be divided up amongst selfish gods like we're their tools regardless of our own wishes

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he's a cute puppet (male)

>lawfags

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i hope all of the divine powers will be back in the next game.

So you didn't play Apocalypse because you're an idiot?

That rivals SJW think.

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Nigga, just play the game. (remember to shun that friendship though, cutie)

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Well he is a skelly, it needs to be a bit ominous.

you can dress him up like a trap.

tfw you exchange dds with people and YOU ALONE are the only guy with demons/Akira at level 430.

Spams Beast Eye.

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Which friend should I make my eternal slave?

I'd rather fuck toki desu

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SON OF MAN, WHY HAVE YOU NOT PRAISED [record scratch] TODAY?

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Breed the Toki.

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And she (male) looks very cute.

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*steals your money*

youtu.be/zIjVvnO5lgM
Mot's Theater always gives me a chuckle.

*hints at her having an orgasm in cutscene*

see
She literally begs for your children.

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That was hot

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one more god rejected

That dress with the horns of chaos head looks better desu.

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I dunno. For someone who thought I was so great she was pretty willing to kill me for wrong think.

I like to pretend that part never happened.

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Dagda's voice is really sexy in the dub

Use sukukaja bro

It's fine, she still loves (you).

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sauce

ONE MORE DEMIFIEND REJECTED

thats a trilby you selfhating anglo

>dress
It is beetle armor

Not having a Divine Powers route is the biggest flaw of IVA.

HOY

I was talking about mixing the black maid dress with the helmet from the beetle armor. You can mix and match, you know.

Wait how old is Toki again?

I'LL

14

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HOY WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

old enough.

God damn, I'll marry her anyways.

It's the ripe age for marriage and impregnation.

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WHY ARE THE CONCEPT ART DESIGNS ALWAYS BETTER REEEEEEEEEEE
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VENOUSM RAGA

She looks too frail here.

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I really need to play this game, I'm just autistically trying to complete the next two routes of SMT IV first.

>3

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I like the other one better. Still prefer the final design though.

>he hasn't learned with Versus and PS3
Buying a console solely for one game before the concrete release date is retardrd

You would just burn yourself out if you did that. Better to play something else then move on to Final.

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Left is really good.

Dagda is screaming internally

I'm already burned out, that's why I'm considering just moving onto Final.

Thats fine bro, pretty sure almost everyone went chaos/law and watched the neutral ending on youtubs, fuck Atlus for locking neutral ending behind a gamefaqs guide

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The look on his face.

You could just watch the routes on YouTube.

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I want to steal his hat and slap him around

BASED

What is david bowie doing in my friendship killing game?

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whats the axiom

God

Does massacre count as neutral?

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Peace and Anarchy are forms of neutral.

Why were metatroon and lucifag sutch little bitches on that game?

keeper of the multiverse, presumably

This.
It wasnt the cringy scenes with toki and that other bitch, or the multiple reinforcement bullshit that sometimes happened, or all these dlcs sold the worst part of the game
Not being able to side with them was
And the funny part is that dagda is the one actually stopping you (no free will at all!) , so , if and when you get rid of him, you should be able to get that as a pseudo "secret" ending

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Don’t know but getting to BTFO Betatron in Naoya’s route was kino.

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This is the result of having thoughts that are so consistently faggot

I AM GOING TO SAY THE N WORD!

WOAH I did not know this

>hints

EOPfags BTFO

wait what i though YHVH was God

What other fictional characters are so ingrained in the human conscious that they could appear as an SMT demon?

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doesn't he offer you to side with him? are you telling me it was a ruse?

YHVH is a demon who acts like a god.

>implying that beach doc wasn't secretly kino.

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BASED

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God I hate Asashit ugly useless fag

this series getting to advanced for me kek

>he actually like Pascal the dog
She not even yhe orginal Pascal, and she is a fucking waste of space.

SHE DOESNT EVEN HAVE DIARAMA

The axiom is just another name for the Great Will who oversees the multiverse

YHVH is a faggot demon "god" made from the thoughts of humans to venerate God, the actual god God is the Greater Will

>not saving yourself for marriage/God

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Not him but I already did that, I just need to get over Kid Icarus so I can play this, all these threads we are having really make me want to play Final already and then SJR.
Its not that hard though, it just sucks if you fuck it up, you cant just load a save unless that save was from before Ichigaya.

I want both.

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Persona 5 may be big lately due to Smash Bros representation and overweight nerds begging for a port but it’s SMT 3 Nocturne that was when Atlus was at it it’s peak. Many of these virgin troglodytes online can’t handle the difficulty and the lack of wank bait anime characters but it’s a unsung classic that most games can’t live up to!

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You guys are fucking retarded. YHvH is suppose to be the Abrahamic god from the bible that humans worship but the one true god , which isn't even a god to be honest is the one that humans don't know about.

John Henry, Blackbeard the Pirate, Captain Ahab, Robin Hood, The Count of Monte Cristo, Miyamoto Musashi and Zato-Ichi are good ones.

>unsung

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I don't know, somewhere between calling her useless bitch and an ugly tarted uo whore I got strangely attached to her.

At that point, doesn't it become Fate/Stay Night?

Blackbeard wasnt real?

Literally impossible, harder than yhvh and any other smt boss in the series

Use Hal

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Nor was Ahab and so on but they’re legendary figures in culture and history. They would fit as part of the Famed race.

How did they manage to be so much hotter than any girl in P5?

Would you prefer SMT V to use L/N/C or something different like Reasons and Apocalypse split paths?

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Alignments are fine as long as it's not more neutral wank. Reasons are fine as long as they're not retarded reasons.

L/N/C, plus Dark/Neutral/Light variances of each

Reasons would be cool if they're actually good this time and the characters with them get a little bit more development.

I don't know but they just are. I want Asahi and Toki to give me a double fellatio.

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god the mc is so slick, I hope you run around the whole game in that dopey outfit

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Vishnu-Flynn was the one to fuck my ass the most.

Just use Impossing Stance. Most bosses always do one specific skill at their first turn. Impossing Stance carried me all the way through YHVH.

>switch only
Why would they do this

*toots*

Its SMT, thats the norm

Just play P5 my dude

SMT games are always on Nintendo consoles

DO NOT TOOT

DO NOT TOOT IT

this isn't true though

Only NINE and Nocturne aren't on Nintendo consoles.

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Why haven't you sided with Law?

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>SMT1, 2, if.. was ported to PSX
>SMT3 was exclusive to PS2

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Given that what little we've seen of V looks like a similar setting to Nocturne, I can imagine them doing something similar to Reasons, though I'd like the endings themselves to be far more fleshed out than three versions of "look over this giant empty expanse while your chosen character makes a final monologue." It made all the endings except Freedom and True Demon feel completely pointless. I'd like for them to actually make Law/Neutral/Chaos three legitimately reasonable endings that only depend on your personal point of view, rather than Neutral being "let's just kick the can down the road another few millennia" and the other two being glorified bad endings.

But they aren't better.

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If they are gonna half ass every ending but neutral again, i'd rather they not even bother with a choice.
Just pour all resources into a good neutral instead.

Why do you think?

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Yeah, ported.

It's literally the worst choice.

I literally cant fucking beat the final boss of DDS1
I was retarded with my Mantra prioritizing and now nobody has the skills I need and Ive already farmed more in this game than I have in any other megaten game
Should I just move on or am I gonna miss out on an absolute kino cliffhanger?

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Honestly either reasons or something different like apocalypse.
C/N/L is pretty much been there done that at this point.
If they are gonna do it I hope they atleast get a little bit creative with it.
Or at the very least make it so that you choose the ending based on which route align with your ideologies instead of just choosing between getting blasted in the ass by the demon, blasted in the ass by angels or putting the decision on hold for a couple of decades give or take.
DeSu did alignments/routes really good in my opinion.

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>dude just give up your free will
no thanks

Why be a slave when I can be free?

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Honestly, this. No Persona game has ever been on Nintendo, yet 2 mainlines were ported to Playstation and one of them was exclusive. I think that's enough proof that SMT V can be on Playstation.

>being a lawcuck

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And enough proof Persona can be on Nintendo

Yeah I agree. DeSu type routes would be great.

Pascal the dog is here.

Shouldn't Ring of Gaia idolize Flynn for killing their master?
Muh world of str.

Just use buffs and debuffs

What does DeSu do that the other games don't?
Haven't played it desu.

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Thread reminds me I still haven’t beaten smtA once, died once to yhvh never went back

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>No Persona game has ever been on Nintendo

DeSu was great, honestly. The routes weren’t as cut and dry as other mainline games and the Law route doesn’t actually suck. Not to mention the whole demon lord aesthetic and Cain and Abel thing were cool as shit.

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Git gud son of man

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Best bro in the entire SMT franchise.

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>Wants to cause shit in an nocturne thread
user, you obviously play SMT games so we all know you have a high enough IQ and are simply -pretending- to be retarded. knock it off.

>uses dekaja and dekunda constantly
great strat user

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To put it really simple.
DeSu is basically about demon highlander battle royale for supremacy.
The winner of said fight will become the ultimate demon and a being that rivals god.
The routes basically decide what will be done with said power after the fight is over.

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>wastes turns using dekaja and dekunda
Yes, great strat.

Is there a more fucking overrated game in the series than SMT 3?

>wastes one of seven turns
yep you really got em

Just spin offs, hell the most people know about Joker from smash now

I DENY YOUR EXISTENCE

How can you deny what stands before you

Post demons that are hardly used that you want to return for V.

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Like this

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>He let the yellow baldy win
Failure of a Godkiller.

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>claims that those who can see him are morally pure
>am not morally pure
>therefore he's not god

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It's a shame you won't get to see the Kino Anarchy ending for yourself.

What SMT game has your favorite aesthetic? For me, I think it’s Strange Journey.

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Remind me how did Abel become a Bel again?
Wasn't he human, how did he become eligible to become king of Bel?

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Based Gore
Kys Lawfags even Chaos is less disgusting

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It's in his name.

Soul Hackers

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Soul Hackers
youtube.com/watch?v=tlAf4EE7sDQ

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SJ, even has the worst ost too

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I'm still sad about SMT x FE

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I know in it's name, but it can't be just that.

I want to fug Chiaki tho

Good fucking taste.

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>tfw no Nemissa gf

Ok fuck I’m going to do it
>tfw actually nervous

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Krishna's plan was literally the same as Dagda's though, except Nanashi is the only one who replaces YHVH. I don't know why people keep bringing this up. You miss nothing from Krishna getting defeated.

why live

>magic
>not based STR
Restart your entire play through right now

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Why did you invest any stat points whatsoever into dex when you went with a mage build?
Also is it just me or do your stats seem way higher than it normally would be at that lvl.

>Thought using demons was more of a hassle earlier in Soul Hackers and relied solely on Hikari and Nemissa
>Around the midpoint of the game or so when I started stacking up Magnetite, they became useful as hell
Ah, it feels good. I was starting to think they were useless outside of boss fights. Raising Loyaltly is pretty annoying though.

What a awful cruel world it is.

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It hurts.

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>tfw no Nozomi gf
Is there some devine force I can blame?

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Order vs. Chaos is quite literally a false dichotomy

You can always blame *record scratch*

>Think I'm not going to need my items
>mfw he starts switching into elements I don't counter

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STR is honestly a meme. It was only fun to do that shit in Nocturne, otherwise.. no. DEX is superior in IV, and MAG is amazing for Apocalypse since Awakened Power allows all of your Magic attacks to blow through shit cleanly. Also..
>Magaon
>Salvation
No Imposing Stance or Invitation?

Incenses

Tell me more

I want extra-hard optional Neutral-type endings in Law and Chaos where you decide not to be God / Lucy's bitch and supplant them

Homeslice gonna go bananacakes

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The game gives lots of stats boosters

When are you ever Lucifer's bitch in Chaos endings, with the exception of maybe the TDE? He literally lets you do whatever you please.

>implying there isn't a shit ton of overlap

I always go magic with everything

It was a long time ago honestly I don’t really remember

git gud

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I'd go homeslice on her bananacakes

Str still has crit chances without needing to be smirked, Magaon and Salvation are for backups.

Non-tropeshit personalities

those can't be transferred to nanashi. I like to keep bad company on him though.

I really liked that the endings where just the ways you could use your newfound power.
Usually in SMT choosing a route is choosing what you want to get fucked in.
You can choose, but you're always fucked

>what are DDS and Raidou

If by homeslice you mean slice and by banannacake you mean neck then I agree.

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>smt mobile
>skipping through login shit
>they always try and make me misclick on the $99 starter pack

Not SMT, MegaTen.

Nice

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Lets not kid ourselves. Tae and Sae look better than any of the girls in Apocalypse.

Do you have imposing stance? Really helps out.

>the only path for men is to suck demon cock
No, señor.

>strenghtlet
>not based CHADagician
Ahahahahah not even once

I don't know, the style in P5 puts me off.

Toki is cuter than both of those 2bh.

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Cute glasses
Cute outfit
Cute gun
Cute face
Cute body
Cute hair
Cute feet
Cute hands
Cute armpits
Cute personality
What doesnt she have

Cute porn

penis

>her personality
>cute

>There are actually people who like Nozomi
Apocalypse was a mistake outside of it's combat and Compendium improvements

>somehow failling *record scratch when you've got an insane MAG stat and a bunch of big bad demons
Behold my shrugs

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Sojima gives every character a massive fucking forehead. It's most noticeable with Haru because she doesn't have any bangs or accessories to hide it, but all of his girls have oversized heads.

Am I getting this correctly?
>Messiah's from each of their universe get fucked over
>Steven warps them to the Diamond Realm
>He tests their strength to make sure they can overcome their trials in their respective universes successfully
>Event can essentially be considered canon
?

Her personality and ideology is shit but I would make her my personal broodmare

>Awakened Power allows all of your Magic attacks to blow through shit cleanly.
I actually didn't like that.
It kinda homogenized the spells.
There is little to no reason to have almighty skills, because of it and the lack of pierce was made up by the fact that MAG had more versatility in skills.
Giving magic pierce made all the attacks really samey.

this for fuck's sake come on drawfags just give us some good Nozomi porn

did I stutter son of man?

Nemissa is flat! FLAT!

Yeah pretty much

>stands up

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If you were to remake the original IV, what would you do to improve it?

>Cute glasses
No
>Cute outfit
Nah
>Cute gun
I guess?
>Cute face and body
Yes
>Cute hair
Eh
>Cute feet
Shit fetish
>Cute hands
Doesnt she wear gloves?
>Cute armpits
Same as above
>Cute personality
yeah
>What doesnt she have?
Her original SMT IV design and her concept Final design with short hair, bring it back, fuckers.

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Everything in MegaTen is canon. The Diamond realm DLC is a alt verse where the MC's failed

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What the hell is this mindset? I'm sorry if this does cause things to go off-topic, but are you seriously saying Nintendo don't deserve Persona just because of it not appearing on their system (which also mean you are ignoring the Q series), but it's ok for SMT to be on only PlayStation just because one game did, when the other competitor was GameCube?

In SMT everything’s canon.

No, I was just taken aback by how wrong that is.

Shut the fuck up

Consistent difficulty.

Pure Ludo moment

I'M STILL
IN AXIOM
WORM EATER

Mad cuz right

Yes due to the multiverse memes. The Flynn is even from a different universe in which Nanashi died and passed on or something.

I think he got a lucky shot at Flynn and things went shit real fast
I don’t know what I was doing but none of my demons, or me, have buffs/debuffs

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Pierce in the endgame makes pretty much any build viable
I wouldn't call STR a meme since it can reach an even higher damage output total than MAG when calculated.
You also have more space to put some utility skills throughout the maingame.
Until MAG has a reliable Fangbreaker skill equivalent STR is superior since your revolving door of demons and element stones and bullets can make up for any weaknesses you need to hit.

Needs more porn that isn't yaoi in general

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Apocalypse combat and fusion.
More time spend in mikado.
Make Wally and Johmmy actually learn from blasted/infernal tokyo and make their new routes not suck kinda like how they fixed law and chaos in redux

AHEM
FUCK GOD
FUCK BEL’S
FUCK ANGELS
REBEL AGAINST GOD
that is all

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Rank every SMT you've played by the settings.

Raidou>IV>Nocturne>IV:A>Soul Hackers>DDS1=DDS2>DeSu1>DeSu2>PQ>P5>P3=P4

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>mediarama at lvl 100

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By killing beldr

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>mediarama
>not salvation
>heaven's bow
>with 59 points on gun attacks
What the fuck are you doing? Where's Antichton?

What's up with her pose? 0.o

Smack Doi upside the head and tell him to stop ruining demons with his toku fetish when previous designs were perfectly fine.

Literally Abel

IV

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Showing off her best asset

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I DON’T KNOW. And here. Pls no bully

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he had a piece of abel's soul. Abel was probably made from a piece of the original bel.

>samarecarm on Demiurge
>getting -3 on samarecarm
You do understand that demons in smt iva have affinities, right? Demiurge is not good with healing moves.
He's not the right man for the job.

>Antichton
>in IV:A
lmao

SMT IV>SMT 1> SMT IF
I would probably put SMT 1 higher if it wasnt so annoying to navigate overall.

Where my Chaoschads at?

To be honest I always alternate between Neutral and Chaos for different SMT games.

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That was not his call though.
He made the newer ones, because of the higher ups.

Dude just downfuse and get buffs and debuffs with Dekaja/Dekunda to fix these demons

>using soul hackers demi-urge
>not killing yhvh with your bro jack frost and a meme pixy
Failure as a man, failure as a human

Oh trust me law is the only good alignment.

Yeah, it should have been another "here's your ending you gullible fucking rube" like Law/Chaos were

same. Sometimes the chaos end is as bad as the law end, but I never go law on purpose.

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I'm only going to mainline otherwise I'd be here forever.
SMT II > SMT IV > SMT III > SMT I

Haven't given If... a try yet, how is it?

>soul hackers demi-urge
It debuted in Devil Summoner you casual.

Neutralbros and chaoschads will always be have a stable friendship.

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>all these godawful choices in your attacks
Oh shit NIGGER, what the fuck. No wonder YHVH keeps raping you. You AT LEAST need Dekunda/Dekaja for the debuffs and Magaon for Smile Removals in case of him using Infinite Power. Also, having Phys Repel is a real blessing.

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>Ruining demons
Huh? He literally fixed the demons that looked hideous in the original IV like Medusa and Merkabah. Otherwise, most of the final results for the demons he made in Apocalypse were due to the higher ups tampering with his concepts.

Im just tired of lucifer chaosbros
I want either a consistent lucifer or a new chaos rep and im sad the only alternative to him gets dabbed on by lucifer, stephen and the if... cast

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>devil summoner
Literally who?
U mean ace ventura: featuring weeb thor from the smt series?

if... is fun, but sloth is hell inducing.

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Me too, I was imagining a game like DeSu but with FE mechanics like supports and weapon triangle. What we got was decent but it couldve been so much more faithful to a combination of both franchises.

You have ten seconds to name a better soundtrack.

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That’s cause our goals align we both feel that humanity is thrown under the bus by god but neutral chads want to return to life how it was while chaos chads want to change the world

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There's like 2 good Law endings across the entire fucking series, so I assume that's most of us.

I really don't think Mediarahan or Salvation are that necessary in Apocalypse unless you're sporting a demon with good affinity for healing skills and high MP, seriously fuck the MP cost for Salvation. The again I only played the game on War difficulty and didn't even delve into the endgame DLC dungeon with Steven

>hazama is a better edgelord than adachi and akechi
Ohnonono persoyna bros

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Honestly, I've thought about it, but if we include IV and IV:A as one big soundtrack, it pretty much has my favorite soundtrack in all of gaming.

Built for hatefucking

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is 3ds emulation a thing yet

DeSu 2 had a better ost but wasn’t the game wasn’t as good

Whitch ones?
The smt 2 law ending sucks, the nine and imagine law endings are complete garbage
U mean the Devil survivor ones?

Risk of Rain 1?
IVA?

Haven’t played if... but he sounds cool
My pee pee hard

>Not liking original Merk
URGE TO SMITE: RISING

Please refrain from posting any more hoyboys. This is a Krishna thread. Toot toot.

Yes, Citra works pretty well these days

On Apocalypse mode and with doping lots of the post-game attacks hit really fucking hard so you want Mediarahan. But with his high magic it's probably not necessary for YHVH.

>gets throw under the bus by his family for being a bastard
>everyone in the school hates him
>the weird hippie becomes a boxing champion just to kick his ass harder
>his sister also throws him under the bus
>his only friend is the nurse and she also ends up betraying his trust
Did he do anything wrong?

>letting persona live rent free

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post kino designs

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Yes.

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I imagine one of them is the Law+ ending in SJR. Not sure about the other ones.

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>Apocalypse's Combat & Compendium upgrades like Skill Affinities, updated Smirk Mechanic, & Hama/Mudo being attacks instead of gimmicky OHKO moves
>More of Kaneko's original vision for the story being implemented since a lot of it was cut from the final product
>Mikado as a whole being an area you can navigate with it's own hub areas like Tokyo
It really upset me that we got this cool Medieval setting in an SMT game, but you couldn't even properly explore it.
>Being able to choose who you have as a partner between Walter, Jonathan, and Isabeau during combat.
>More explorable regions for Blasted/Infernal Tokyo
>More areas in general to access on the world map, and additional end game dungeons for bonus content
>Expanded demon roster by about 20 to 30
It would be amazing.

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SMTIII > DDS > SMT4 > SMT4A SMT2 (would be higher if you didn’t have to spend the entire game in the stupid as fuck underground) > Soul Hackers > Strange Journey > Persona 3 > Desu overclocked > Desu 2 > Persona 4

SMT4A didn’t feel as atmospheric as 4 fsr and I can’t put my finger on why

Find a flaw.

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agi

I literally always pick Chaos in these games, with the exception of SMT II since it's a Law based title and Aleph is essentially Jesus. I just wish they gave us new alignment representatives since YHVH, or Metatron by extension, and Lucifer are starting to get boring. There's quite a lot of figures they could choose to replace them as well, so it's up to Atlus.

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Hama and Mudo are only bad with press turn. In games without it they're excellent at thinning out random encounters

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>lucifer and doomguys rape baby ends up making the three wise idiots seethe for all eternity and saves thr 3 endings from being total garbage
Is there anything lucibro cant do?

Still mad these were changed

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*hits pipe*

>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic Colors
>Xenoblade Chronicles 1
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Persona 3/FES/Portable
I'm not downplaying IV's OST either since I think it's amazing as hell, but there's plenty of good vidya OST's.

Devil triggers should be demons in V

Furi

>get it completely blind first time through
>get burnt out at the shitty side quest gate right after
>start a new game years later and use the guide to get back to where I was
>fuck up (then unfucked it but still)
Then I got burnt out yet again. The map is so shit it's hard to accurately describe how shit it is rooting out all these side quests you have to do.

Didnt the dmc5 devs told either reuben or vergils va to shut the fuck up when they were asked about demi-fiend?
Have faith fellow dmc bro

>Featuring the Devil Triggers from the Devil May Cry series

>Soon we'll see Doi's Satan in glorious 3D
I'm so glad a new age of full 3D combat and overworld exploration is upon us. I didn't mind the sprites that we got in the 3DS era, but man I missed the 3D. I hope Satan is actually in V, but if not.. meh.

Also include Walter and Johnathan learning something from their tripsto Blasted/infernal tokyo.
I thought it was real cool visiting two worlds where god's law/chaos reigns, but I found it strange that Johnathan and Walter didn't take anything away from it and just go for the shitty chaos/law route.

I'll finally be able to have a fiend skeleton crew in 3D again.

>doi satan
>good
Heres your demi-urge fellow personabro

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Ubergestalt Space Marine and God Nanashi will be secret superbosses in V.

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Really all SMT IV needs is the same combat mechanics and tweaks Apocalypse had, more explorable areas in Mikado and maybe some unique final dungeons and bosses for its Law and Chaos routes.

Mother Harlot does it better. Also Satan in megaten is based on his role in Jewish mythology, the decision to use the Beast of Revelations as his design basis doesn't make sense.

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youtube.com/watch?v=HqstVoOKSUc

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>and maybe some unique final dungeons and bosses for its Law and Chaos routes
SMT IV disappointed me on this because my expectations were that it would be like Strange Journey and have more variation to route bosses.

SJ is an anomaly in the franchise.

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>people saying Nozomi has no porn
>think they're lying
>go one some sites
>doesnt even have tags for her
what the fuck

>If you like the new Satan you're a Persoyboy
No? I just genuinely like the new Satan design. Granted I love the Xenomorph Satan that Kaneko created as well.
>Nanashi as a Secret Boss
>Dagda and Mastema are two of his main demons
>When you defeat him in battle Dagda appears and revives him before they vanish
It would be based, but I have no clue what the reward would be.

In Persona 5's code he is actually listed as Metatron interestingly. I guess they wanted him to be Metatron at first and changed it last minute, would explain the four archangels beimg fought leading up to him.

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>Ubergestalt Space Marine

First phase of the fight is space marine playing vending machine to his demons.
Second phase he drops his helmet and weapons and challenges you to a fist fight.

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Friendly reminder that Atsuro is the best bro.

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>the decision to use the Beast of Revelations as his design basis doesn't make sense.
Not anymore sense than 6 titty xenomorph.

Don't forget the most important part, more of Kaneko's plot for the game being included since it was too long to put into the base game. I'm sure they wouldn't have that issue nowadays. They better not since P5 is like 100 hours long due to story.

>Doi can't make a good desig-

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Persona is the only series in the MT family that gets any porn.
It's a real shame too.

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I would love to see the trainwreck production of persona 5
The travel around the world concept sounded interesting until hackashino fucked it up

My shit seems worse. I am in YHVH's Universe on Apocalypse difficulty.

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>only NINE has use this God tier Yaldabaoth
Fucking why.

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SMT as a whole needs more. fujos fuck off

>That design
Uuhh... Like, im feeling it but at the same time im not feeling it, you know what i mean?

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Based Atsubro

>doomguy and lucifer child has purple hair

Iirc the 6 tits xenomorph satan was supossed to show how motherly satans role is and how people dont seem to understand him and end up changing his role to all sorts of shit when his only job is to test humanity, not try to fuck it over

What's the story behind NINE, anyways?

>I thought it was real cool visiting two worlds where god's law/chaos reigns, but I found it strange that Johnathan and Walter didn't take anything away from it and just go for the shitty chaos/law route.
That was pretty retarded.
>See an absolutely nuked wasteland where humans can't even breath because of all the toxic chemicals in the air
>Jonathan barely seems to mind
>See a flame filled city where humans are slaves and demons roam around killing each other to become top dog
>Hoyboy doesn't give a damn and tells Akira to man up
You'd think they would have rethought their ideaologies, but they proceed to fuse with Lucifer & the Archangels as if they saw nothing.

Yeah this too. Are there any artbooks or dev interviews which state what the other plans in the plot were going to be? I've though for a while that Burroughs being based off the Goddess of Tokyo was supposed to play a much bigger part than just the brief explanation Steven gives you and the ending.

Add Apoc's stuff
Have more variance with LNC during route lock, give Neutral its own final boss scenario and dungeon, and expand on L&C's content.
More areas in mikado to go to as dungeons or something. Same with Tokyo
Make Walter and Jonathan's shifts more believable in plot or don't put us in blasted/infernal and not expect some rationality with them.
More time with Tayama.
Yuriko in Gaean Robes.
>blaming doi for IV
Had to fix the ones that appeared in apoc and the only ones he changed in that game that had general designs before Apoc was Satan, Shesha, YHVH and Krishna

DeSu 1 and Deep Law in SJ.

Alex is a pure semen demon and they even gave her a nice fat ass yet no art.

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That's a human.

>It's been years now and people still blame Doi for IV's demon designs
He didn't make them though.

It’s a real shame
At least DeSu got some porn

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>even in the manga Atsuro is based
As it should be.

I'm surprised that they never brought back the original designs for Lilith and the Archangels since they were removed in Apoc
>miss out on cute design
>then realise that said design would've been stuck on a fucking bitch of a character
Is it really a bullet missed?

>everyone enters the virtual reality to escape the shithole that is neutrality
>suddenly demons thanks to yaldaboath wanting to pull a final solution on humanity
>if you die in the simulation you die in the real world
>at the end either lucifer/your comrads/yhvh help you beat the living shit out of yaldaboath
>then the story continues in IMAGINE
Thats the basics of the story iirc

Idk, I want to play it so bad.

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There's actually an entire summary of unused story concepts that were written up for IV. It's pretty easy to find, but I don't have the specific links.

>Gunbro
Mah nigga
>No Riot Gun
A-user?

Damn it all with this series
>porn is almost non existent with most of it being gay shit or if you type in SMT4 it will just give you persona 4
>Atlus pretends it doesnt exist and gives them like no budget
>many people have disappeared into the flower field and never returned
>the biggest PR push the series almost got was killed by Atlus who really didn't give a shit because they wanted to partner up with some music company
>there is artwork out there never to be found of Ike, Roy, and Chrom dressed as Hunters

Best partner by far

Satan in Jewish mythology has no description or any sort of known depiction, Kaneko sort of had gree reign here. It's just weird to use a Christian figure for a Jewish entity. As a design it's okay, nothing terrible, but it feels underwhelming.

Dagda is the better partner/supervisor, but i do so like Flynn the most. Wish you didn't have to fuck him over on the killing your friends boyo route. Wish you had to fight him while he had his IV lvl 99 stats near the end instead of that gayass vishnu shit

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Atleast maria returned in IMAGINE and redux

Why do you have so many magic skills?

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Goddamn I love the black market theme, I could listen to it for hours.

>They remembered Maria from SMT NINE in Strange Journey Redux
There's still hope for Yaldabaoth and all the other old demon designs after all..

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>smt3
>difficult
Nive try smtbaby

>no H-SMT game where you choose your gender, seduce demons to get them on your side then use them to relieve yourself or get horribly raped
Why is life so unfair bros?

No, Eramegaten does not count.

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I mean more why was it a Microsoft exclusive and why was it MP? Seems kind of random for SMT.

>6 tits xenomorph satan was supossed to show how motherly satans role is and how people dont seem to understand him and end up changing his role to all sorts of shit when his only job is to test humanity,
That's the first I have ever heard of that interpretation.
Also I am pretty sure it has 6 tits, because it also has 6 arms and 6 wings representing 666 that ties back to the beast of revelation.
Also wasn't IV/IV:A the first SMT to really push the gods/demons are formed by human's understanding of them.
It's the first time I heard kaneko satan looms that fucked up, because of human's perception of him.
Pretty sure there is no real description of jewish satan so Kaneko just rolled with the viper/dragon aspect and 666.

>there is artwork out there never to be found of Ike, Roy, and Chrom dressed as Hunters
Why couldn't FE x SMT have been the fanservice game everybody wanted? I wanted to see Demifiend vs the FE cast or Space Marine tearing through demons with the FE lords.

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>smt as a whole has had barely any marketing
>the ones they get are either artistic garbage, featuring x character or meme shit like the dark souls of persona or apocalypse marketing as a whole
The fuck is wrong with atlus?

This moveset looks awkward as fuck my man. Remove Judgement Light & Mamudoon and you're good.
On another note, Awakened Power with Judgement Light & Mamudoon is absolutely absurd. I really hope they don't bring back Awakened Power in V. That shit is disgustingly broken.

>hate 3/4's of the party in apocalypse
>can't tell them to fuck off
I thought smt was about choices, what is this

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4A is a lot more heavy on the Christian side. Genesis and Revelations are namedropped, and YHWH quotes specifically Christian verses.

Can fuse so

I'm pretty sure V is going to be the start of Atlus pushing SMT marketing to a higher degree. Especially since we're finally returning to another era of complete 3D.

because everything about that game's announcement and promotion was a fucking train wreck

There is a H-game where it has SMT's gameplay and alignment system but it's not that good desu

>best route
>no awakening skill for Asahi
Fuck you game.
Fuck you fatlus.

Because fuck you
Buy JPOP

>he hasn't seen the Persona and Devil Summoner one by CyoCyo
There's not much, but it's better than nothing

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The only corfirmed bit is the 6 tits being due to satans motherly role though history before the church went full retard and tried to make shit black and white
The xenomoroh shit is pure expeculation

I haven't even completed a SMT game yet, I'm just here for the awesome music

But doesn't kaneko's satan 6 boobs/6 arms/6 wings and viper/dragonlike design also draw from christianity?

>can't tell them to fuck off

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>I wanted to see Demifiend vs the FE cast or Space Marine tearing through demons with the FE lords

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I'm both excited and worried. There's a high chance it could end up with mediocre spinoffs, but spinoff quality has been mostly nice.

The first 5 seconds alone are completely godlike. The song sounds like something from Devil Summoner or Soul Hackers, even the artwork for it gives me oldschool SMT vibes.

Just kill them bro wtf

I'm just mad we couldn't use Dullahan or Lilith in A. Literally no reason not to add them.

because RECORD SCRATCH is a godly antagonist to fight, even if you sadly only face him down in person twice in the series.

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Really great. A lot of these weird designs need to keep coming back.

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kill your friends, boyo

No. NINE's Demiurge is like the reason demons in Nocturne or Mem Aleph, he's tied to NINE's plot and was never meant to appear again.

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Now remove FE from the equation and you have a good game

Just be patient kid.
Everything will work out if you listen to yer oldman.
Remember, poppa bones knows best.

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>Wish you had to fight him while he had his IV lvl 99 stats near the end instead of that gayass vishnu shit
He'd still be weak considering the free dlc lets you go past lv99.
I'm a fucking god in that game lol

Because Atlus and IS fucking botched everything for no good reason. For fuck's sake, they even have an existing combat system that's almost perfect for a crossover between the two and they completely ignored it.

It's funny how despite the lets fuse/summon satan meme, he's only fuseable in IVA with mainline.

>he hasnt watched the devil summoner tv show where they kill the persona 1 protagonist at the end and doesnt own the ost of the show in flac form
And you cucks call yourself smt fans?
Here, you can start with this gift sons of man
mediafire.com/folder/h5i0sy2bkvsh7/SMT_Devil_Summoner_TV_Soundtrack_(FLAC)

>Just remembered that this exists
F U C K
youtube.com/watch?v=8eYf3OHqq9s

This series only got popular because of Pokemon.

>killing them near the end
I want to kill them right as they join the party. Fuck Nozomi, Gaston, Hallelujah, and Toki. There should be an option to reject their company.

What

I'm more of a fan of UK-VIOLET's CG sets

>Was never meant to appear again
Assuming this is the case, that really sucks because it's a good design and there's no reason why he shouldn't return. I don't hate the Demiurge birdman, but UFO Yaldy is one of my favorite Kaneko designs period.
Adam and Eve had some pretty based designs. I think Sophia was also in that game.

>no fusion options for dagda and danu as a postgame reward
wasted opportunity desu

I'm a lawfag and I think *record scratch* sucks

>Navarre leaving
What a wimp, with his talk after the tutorial saying his cash gained him demons easily he could had been a pimp

She's more usual for a free smirk than healing really but it kinda sucks.

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>ywn have Atsuro as your bro
Why even live?

why are we still here?
just to suffer?

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My niggas

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I am pretty sure they gave up on it, because they realized that SMTXFE would literally be DeSu, but with fire emblem characters as the human units.

But i did, law is the best

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>I'm just here for the awesome music
Posting the based Nocturne OST since it's slept on.
>downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/shin-megami-tensei-iii-nocturne-original-soundtrack
>downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/shin-megami-tensei-iii-nocturne-maniacs-soundtrack-extra-ver

Dude your shit is all over the place

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I've been meaning to get around to watching it, all the episodes got subs by now, right?

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Yeah she is only good for playing cheer leader.
I suppose it makes sense lore-wise but come on.

>Megami Tensei & Shin Megami Tensei existed before Pokemon
>Only popular because of Pokemon
Breath with your nose, not your mouth.

If you liked Strange Journey's dungeon crawling and you haven't already, check out the Etrian Odyssey series. The gameplay loop is pretty much the same as SJ, fusion aside.

>the persona 1 protagonist gets killed in the devil summoner tv show
The fuck?

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Havent found anything with it yet.

She doesn't need an awakening skill, she's already the best partner without one. Navarre baits enemies into casting dekunda/dekaja and all the other partners are completely useless. Meanwhile Asahi gives Nanashi a smirk, heals your party, or removes a status ailment if one somehow stuck.

>load up old Nocturne save thats at the top of kagatsuhi tower
>'huh i think ill try fusing beelzebub that should be cool!'
>have to be level 95 to do it
Literally why
I did every last side mission in the game, collected every magatama and I think I was probably at level 86 by the end of it
Who the FUCK wants to grind that much?

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Yeah

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>All this Magic
>No Smirk Charge
I'd honestly remove Judgement Light and slap in Smirk Charge just to get the Stats Down on Antichton, but oh well.

Still would've been better than what we got and better than DeSu desu

Because the smirk instant kills are extremely good for Hordes. On Apo difficulty they take ages to kill without them. At least 2 full rounds even if you smirk 4 times.

The motherfucker could've been a black card holder

Her healing is like a few points worth without her awakened skill.

>implying DeSu isn’t great

Iirc yep, they are garbage but still understandable

> because they realized that SMTXFE would literally be DeSu
There are plenty of ways to introduce new mechanics and expand on old ones though while still carrying over distinctive elements from both series.

>Etrian Odyssey
Except it is very different, the story is worse and there are no demons to summon.

I would, but demons and the fusion they have is a huge reason I play the games. I don't know if I'll ever bother to play Persona Q either.

I wonder if they'll ever get bored of working on Persona and SMT exclusively and revive Devil Summoner for a breath of fresh air? It's like a good fusion between the two.
If they ever decide to make more SMT spinoffs again, Raidou and Devil Survivor are probably the only things that'll return.

> the story is worse
Strange Journey is hardly a literary masterpiece, or the series in general. I'd honestly say I enjoyed EO3's plot more than most SMT games.

Yeah but no one played that shit before Pokemon.

If you have played persona 1 you literally played Q and Q2
Fuck hackashino and fuck atlus

I'm hoping they come back in V as playable. It needs to at least have more than 300 demons.

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From what you see anyway, Devil Summoner seemed popular enough even if it's not Persona levels, so it makes you wonder why they didn't make anything since Raidou outside of the SH port

I've used this song to fall asleep multiple times

Its almost like the series was just a rumor in the west before revelations came

I get a free smirk after hitting shit. 90% of the time because of my luck. Then I usually do Antichton. So Smirk charge is a waste. Half of my demons have debilitate or luster either way and after all the fiends I killed they have higher affinities that just wreck shit.

It allows you to do human fusion, which ignores your level limit.

>All the other partners are completely useless
>Toki: Good for clearing mobs
>Gaston: Borderline retarded since he steals your Press Turns to do useless attacks
>Nozomi: Good for applying status effects and wiping buffs from enemies
>Hallelujah: Semi good magic attacker and protects you from status effects
>Isabeau: Good magic user and buffs you with Luster Candy
I'd say the other partners aren't borderline useless except Gaston, and Nozomi during boss fights.

P5 has like a little but less than 200 demon models.
They could a 100 something more right?

fuck yes, i love mano-el-mano fistfights. It's part of why i absolutedly fucking love Finnegan, that guy is honorabu as fuck and i'm glad you get to team up a bit with him

>would always cherish getting ambushed in DDS1 because it had the best battle track and the human form weapons were cool as fuck

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Low exp is really annoying. You never actually get the chance to use endgame demons, only Hardtype and Final lets you.

Smirk usually means you 1 shot anything with Judgement Light. So basically anybody you hit first. Not that it matters since any magic attack usually kills anything that isn't a boss.

Sure when SMT5 comes out in 2040.

*ahem*
FUCK SMTIV
FUCK SMT APOCALYPSE
AND FUCK DAGDA
That is all
*tips helmet*

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The new ones they add in P5R could be used too if Atlus is not lazy, also i am sad there is no Jack Ripper one

I can see SMT V getting around a good 250 or so demons. Most of them will probably be from P5 so they don't have to do as much work to include new demon models, but oh well. What I'm really hoping for, is to see Doi make some new demons. A good 20 to 30 would be swell. Either that or bring back older demons that don't get used much.

I took Toki as the slave and bullying hordes of enemies was worth it.

>implying atlus wont scrap smt 5 in favor of another persona 5 version
We TWEWY now boyos

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P5 has about 210 personas I'm pretty sure.

Based and lawpilled

>missed out on Lilith fusion because I went with Jonathan
Fuck, I just came back from the White fights, any tips on recomended demons at my current level (64)? I also went to get the non Ichigaya Divinities' data.
The Dis, Abaddon, Tlaltechutil, Loki and Therion are all just field recruits for possible fusion fodder.
Also if I ever find Anticition, should I replace my Debilitate with it? Should I also give up my mediarama for something or just keep a slot for healing in general on my guy?

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how many demons does smtiv have?

I never dumped much in Luck. Going to have to do some of that in my next playthrough. Maybe Luck, Strength, and Agility?
True. They made a lot of demons weak to Hama and Mudo in Apocalypse as well.

What would an Atlus styled TWEWY game look like?

Black frost is all you need

Is Persona 5R going to add more demons? would be funny if they end up porting them to SMTV.

Irrelevant because they're all low-resolution sprites.

Yeah, but those include the personas like arsene, satanael and the other persona original designs right?

Woke

IV & Apocalypse have at least a good 150 to 250 demons. Every SMT game usually has around this much in their roster.

400 and something, IVA got more than 450 i think it its also the record of the series

smtv is going to multiplat