How did the resistance defeat the combine when professional armies couldn't do it in the 7 hour war

Sera que eu pego o onibus ou sera que compro uma goiaba?

Are striders and gunships not considered real combine?

Sopa

They didn't. They were fighting the brainwashed slave humans that the combine left behind to watch over things. By the end of the series, the resistance controls a negligible amount of land and power.

They didn't?

Wasn't one of the points of the Combine that we never actually see the true leaders of it? Just a slew of subservient races that are being used to subjugate even more races?

the combine left after winning and took their armies with them. the entire point of the series is shutting down the communications tower or whatever the fuck before they can call them back

The 7 Hour War was against a Combine invasion force. The resistance fought against the peace-keeping forces that had been left behind post-colonization. Basically, fighting the army vs. fighting the police. Also, they had help from Gordon and his interdimensional buddy in the cheap blue suit.

No? They're synths made from other species the combine has invaded.

Depends on what you consider *real* combine, the synths were just other species that got assimlated into the union. The Advisors are probably the closet thing to what we know as true combine but that's still up in the air.

but thats literally canon though, they destroyed the remains of the citadel to send a message to the combine that they need help. were you even paying attention?

How high on the totem pole are the Advisors?

Overwatch is made up of basically military police and they aren't shit, also the Resistance had a lot of prep time I guess and the element of surprise

wasnt the 7 hour war basically just the combine teleporting in millions of slave races to do the fighting for them, and during the events of half life 2 to episode 2, its just a bunch of remnants just guarding the place (most of them being brainwashed humans) while the combine does shit on other worlds?

Only just got around to beating HL2 and the episodes only cared because of that ship as I'm a Portal fag

Ignoing Laidlaw's released outline, they'd have a hard time contriving the resistance's continued existence if the advisor got to drain Eli's brain since he knew everything.

Nobody knows, wasn't elaborated on. But considering how Breen grovels before them they're definitely higher than planet administrator.

Yes.

You know the answer

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yeah but the Combine have no way to go back home I believe, Gordon destroyed the portal, the Combine forces and advisors that are in earth are basically stranded

Because Breen asking for more advanced reinforcements outside of the locally recruited and produced equipment (which is presumably either is less advance or less overwhelmingly numerous than what the invasion force had) is basically admitting he fucked up to the Combine and can no longer control the populations of Earth, which means, best case scenario if they arrive, he's going to enjoy much much less power and more oversight, worst case scenario is, best left to the imagination. I doubt they were going to treat him as much of an equal even if he did successfully transfer his subconscious to an Advisor body or something similar after losing the Combine's HQ on Earth.

Because what remained on earth wasn't the same as what came in the invasion itself. It's why that big portal at the end of Half Life 2 and the main thing in Episode 1 is a really big deal, Breen was trying to get the main combine forces called in.

Yeah pretty much. you can see this in the original. most of the enemies you fight are either not sentient (headcrabs, those dog things, barnacles, the spider etc) and those that are wear literal slave bracers (vortigaunts) and work in a weird factory-complex full of barrels, if you break them open Grunts come out, showing that grunts aren't really members of the combine but products of it. the controllers might be the closest thing we've seen to combine members though they were probably just slave drivers at the bottom of the org chart.

it's implied the guy in blue is a representative of some other alien race at war with the combine who is trying to divert their attention and resources away from the real battle that's been going on in the background all this time.

Wait that was Breen's orders? Been so long, just thought that was the remnants of City 17's Combine operating under Advisors' orders to try to make a super portal by overloading the reactor.

the guy who wrote the story left valve a few years ago so we will probably never have the answers.

their faces got fucked up

So where were the large Vortigaunts and smart Vortigaunts in HL2? You know what I mean, the non-slave ones.
Were they annihilated? Are they hiding out?
I really hate HL2 for abandoning all the cool aliens from HL1 and OpFor.

JOHN FREEMAN OVER HERE

Didn't he leak the episode 3 plot?

saw some screenshots posted here but though it was BS, does anyone still have them?

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They fought CP squads, not the actual full fighting force of the Combine like the armies on earth. Not a plot hole.

>thought it was bullshit
He literally posted it on his official website
marclaidlaw.com/epistle-3/

Since Ep3 isn't a thing, it's more on how he would've done it. The initial story just changed around the names

Are those big floaty bug things the only real combines?

thats what is implied.

They're waiting for you, Gordon...
In the test...
chamber...

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Maybe?
Even if they are they're pretty low rungs of the combine.

DUDE THE FREEMAN LMAO

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I think Race x from opfor is noncannon and the other vortigaunts supposedly got wiped out.

>we can all die in peace knowing that the final episode would have ended on another cliffhanger anyway

G MAN

Have you played against them in Gmod? They're accuracy is insane.

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De

maybe, for all we know they could just be low level bureaucrats on their first assignment, which is a possibility given the implied power of the combine

Why do you a question mark behind every statement?

I thought it was explicit that the forces the Combine left were the equivalent of a police force?

Doesn't Laidlaw's ending support this with the dyson sphere?

The promise of being covered in Freeman Semen motivated them.

Well it was Breen's request to send in more reinforcements, but when the Citadel got fucked up the advisors decided to just destroy it to create the needed portal for back up

Macaco

Reminds me of the bad guys from X-Com

bad guy in 1 is a CPU unit the enemy aliums set up on Mars a long time ago to watch over the solar system and reactivated when humans began to explore the solar system, like a motion sensor thing.

bad guy in 2 is a exploration ship that crashed into earth a long time ago, it was reactivated when the CPU unit from 1 blew up since it sent out a distress signal, the ship was the first to respond.

bad guys in 3 come from another dimension, that acts as some kind of hub with teleporters to other worlds from where they receive reinforcements

we never actually get to see the actual bad guys, just their minions. (no the new ones don't count)

They had help from the vortigaunts. Also it's hilarious that you think they defeated the combine, when they have a dyson sphere.

>We can all die in peace now

Why was Eli wanting the Borealis to be destroyed?
Was the Combine staging a counter invasion?
Why did the Vorts leave Freeman on the shores of an alien world when he's been so vital in the fight against the Combine?
Are the G-Man's employers enemies of the Combine or a mercenary company?
Are there other agencies of reality manipulation agents?
Why did the G-Man originally cause the Black Mesa incident? Was it the Combine that paid his bill or someone else?
Do the Combine even have greater enemies or are they the final stage of evolution?
What happens to Earth now, it just gets absorbed or is it just stuck in a time capsule now?
If the G-man is our enemy now, how can Gordan ever expect to succeed or even fail? Only the Vorts give us agency to be free of him, and that's only temporary.

I mean you can have a bad ending, I think that was one of the better elements of the HL2 beta since it was 40k hopeless. But this is just another cliffhanger.

>Just as the combine forces closed in from the land, sea, and air

This creates a big plothole too!

from what I read somewhere, the 7 hour war was basically nanobots melting most of humanity, with the slave races of the combine, who you fight for most of the game, coming in to mop up. And the combine don`t have very good portal technology, so they invaded earth knowing that we do, hence the significance of the borealis ship, so when you blow up the portal in episode 2 I believe, you fuck over the policing forces left behind on earth, and cut off the main forces from backing them up. Once the main forces manually fly over, humanity loses either way though, unless they throw in some anime level bullshit with superpowers and mech suits

Well if you think about Freeman is a literal demigod. Anywhere he was, the alien bastards couldn't win.

Laidlaw's BreenGrub "fanfic" heavily implies that the Advisors are just another conquered race used by the Combine as biological hard drives.

Laidlaw's original conception of the Combine is that it is so terrifying large and complex that there's no "original Combine" left. it's just one giant self-perpetuating machine, and even the Advisors may just as well be considered analogous to individual nerve cells making up the Combine super-organism.

>terrifying large and complex that there's no "original Combine" left. it's just one giant self-perpetuating machine
damn, that sounds kino.

>from what I read somewhere, the 7 hour war was basically nanobots melting most of humanity, with the slave races of the combine, who you fight for most of the game, coming in to mop up.

I'm actually curious to find where you got the nanobot shit from. The only thing I recall showing the 7 hour war was Hunt Down the Refund.

I think it was in some book that a friend of mine got full of concept art about HL2, it may be non-canon anymore, but its a cool concept imo

Well they do have a dyson sphere. They could just be a collective of digitized consciousnesses that formed some ascended being. The assimilation of worlds and species is just it's measure of growth.

> "There was an illusion of safety, for a time. And then the Citadels appeared. It happened in a split second, all over the world. A chunk would disappear from the center of a city, to be replaced an instant later by one of these... headquarters for the Combine. Invasion Central."
― Eli Maxwell

Teleportation is spooky.

What is the original Combine, then?

I don't think Laidlaw goes so far, but I like to imagine that the Combine are so terrifyingly large that they have hundreds of dyson spheres across the multiverse, with the sphere that Alxy targets only being the closest one, and that Gordon saw this and realized just how terrifyingly hopeless it all was.

does it really matter at this point?

Better watch out for those CIA bitches in black mesa.

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Imagine if the Borealis just sent him to the universe where Cave bought Black Mesa and shut down the experiment that led to the Resonance Cascade.

Actually, you're right. Usually I really get into the lore but at this point HL3 will never exist. All the original staff are gone.

I'm going to fucking cum

There's a difference between "cliffhanger ending" and "open ending with potential sequel hook."

It's like if Half-Life had ended with Gordon jumping into the teleporter to Xen instead of ending with him getting detained by the G-Man.

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Somebody was reading a lot of Judge Dredd

Earth was a conquered planet. The Resistance was a rag tag group of people but when word spread that FREEMAN was back and kicking ass, all through the country and cities, it inspired all the GAMERS to RISE UP.

As the HL3 ending shows us though, its a hopeless battle. We may have won skirmishes on earth but the combine are on such a higher level of existence and technology that there is no hope.

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>Enough time has passed that few remember me, or what I was saying when last I spoke, or what precisely we hoped to accomplish. At this point, the resistance will have failed or succeeded, no thanks to me. Old friends have been silenced, or fallen by the wayside. I no longer know or recognize most members of the research team, though I believe the spirit of rebellion still persists.

This isn't the real ending to Half-Life 2 Episode Three, this is Marc Laidlaw telling the community that the old guard of Valve, the guys who actually made Half-Life, are all gone, and that Valve no longer has any hope of making Half-Life.

>I expect you know better than I the appropriate course of action, and I leave you to it.

This was Laidlaw outright telling the community to make Episode Three themselves.

>This was Laidlaw outright telling the community to make Episode Three themselves.
And they did
youtube.com/watch?v=whvxtCkCOTk

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This is so unbelievably stupid that I love it.

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I've been playing a lot of Civ V recently so I'm gonna tackle it from that perspective. When you've taken over a city in Civilization you don't leave your troops to cover every single one of them. When you overtake many cities at once unhappiness increases to the point rebellions start forming in your empire. How many turns does it usually take to bring your troops back to squash them in that distant colony before they've already done huge damage to your farms and mines?
Now imagine they had a OP unit like Gordon to stomp hundreds of soldiers, several of your striders and take down buildings.

They're sitting in space israel running the galaxy remotely.

>Yea Forums having a smart discussion

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>The last piece of official Half Life material is this fuckpocalypse.

You know I always thought it was going to be Bioware that went out with a whimper this decade. Half-Life surprised me.

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>We may have won skirmishes on earth but the combine are on such a higher level of existence and technology that there is no hope.
The point wasn't to defeat the Combine it was to prevent the Combine from ever getting to Earth again. Combine had extremely shitty teleportation that required an anchor already existing on a planet before they could teleport there. Human beings managed to create more advanced technology than the Combine, since humans could teleport with no anchor and the Combine desperately wanted that tech from the humans.

At best humans could join whatever other alien races were already at war with the Combine. At worst humans could prevent the Combine from returning for thousands or millions of years, if ever.

The dwindling population of a single planet was never going to defeat a civilization that had millions of planets under its control, at least not by itself.

gorilla tactics

>Carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where the dimensions intersect... Impossible to describe with our limited vocabulary!
Breen saw and knew that there was no stopping the Combine. Breen was right.

>Human beings managed to create more advanced technology than the Combine, since humans could teleport with no anchor and the Combine desperately wanted that tech from the humans.
This is absurd when its revealed that they have created a Dyson Sphere.

I thought the original HL1 more plausible than HL2. Overall, the HL2 story was designed for a lower IQ audience.

Real question: What would the Yea Forums resistance in HL2 look like?

>Overall, the HL2 story was designed for a lower IQ audience.

Of course it was. Why else do you think they put a waifu in the game?

A half Asian, half African waifu at that

Who somehow has green eyes

>the entire plot resolve around Magnusson never forgiving Freeman for that microwave casserole

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That's what happens when you tech-rush.
But being stuck with locomotion engines isn't much of a problem when you already have interstellar planet-fuckers, even if they are a bit slow.

Brain slugs.
But turns out they are just fat humans.

"When this is all over I'm.... Who am I kidding?"

I'm not defending it, but that's how it is in the story. It's stated clearly that Combine's teleportation method is brute force with massive power output and an anchor at the location they are teleporting to.

Humans on the other hand have created a small, mobile and low energy requirement teleporter. With that tech the Combine could stamp out any resistance anywhere in the universe for good. They want the tech badly.

And without that tech and their anchor destroyed, the only way back to Earth is taking thousands or more years traveling at slower than light speed. Earth is essentially safe so long as the remaining Combine forces there cannot build a new anchor and are systematically wiped out by the resistance.

This plot is dumb.

you think we can infiltrate the citadel by making them think we're advisors?

I should believe they used strategic weapons against the nations Earth. They did create a suppression field of the entire planet that made it impossible to have children so they probably used some other global mass destructive weapons. They cannot use a weapon like that against rebels in a combine city though

Combine left an occupational force on Earth. That's what Ep2 was about; they were gonna get the motherlode.

Your bit about the anchor isn't in any of the games, though. Just that the Combine still haven't figured out how to teleport locally.

It's in the games. Their first anchor was using Xen to teleport to Earth when it was fixed during the black mesa incident. After that they built the citadel as a permanent anchor.

>Despite the highly advanced technical capabilities of the Combine, they appear to have a relatively limited grasp of teleportation technology. Dr. Mossman explains that while the Combine can teleport from one universe to another, they do not know how to teleport between different locations in the same universe. The teleportation method developed by Black Mesa enables same-universe translocation, and as a result the Combine is eager to obtain information on their teleportation technology. Dr. Mossman actually helps the Combine build a teleporter with such capabilities in Nova Prospekt, but it is destroyed during Alyx and Gordon's escape.

>The Combine's method of teleportation appears to be highly inefficient compared to Black Mesa's equivalent; a large amount of power and massive pieces of machinery are required to perform teleportation, as seen at the end of Half-Life 2, where Dr. Breen attempts to escape from the Citadel using a Combine teleporter. This teleporter requires a dark fusion reactor to power it, while the teleporters designed by humans require relatively small amounts of power and very little machinery in comparison. Xen teleporters appear to require almost no machinery or energy of any kind.

>While the physics of teleportation are poorly explained, it is known that Xenian teleporters use Xen as a "dimensional slingshot," bouncing off of one universe to another and from one location in a certain universe to another in the same universe. Combine teleporters cannot do this, instead having to "tunnel" through dimensions to the target universe.

>Following the Nihilanth's demise, the Combine found that it was able to use the portal storm that was occurring at the time to reach Earth, where it launched a massive invasion that culminated in the Seven Hour War. Statements made by the G-Man suggest that the human race was unable to mount any effective resistance to the Combine armies and that Earth's military forces were almost instantly overwhelmed.

So the Combine piggy backed of the portal storms occurring from the black mesa incident to get to Earth, then set up their citadel as an anchor to brute force teleport from their universe to ours, on Earth.

>half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Combine

>it's the friends we made along the way

So if the teleporter hadn't exploded at the end of Nova Prospekt, humanity would've lost thanks to Mossman? Why wasn't she shot at the end of HL2?

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the force left on Earth is basically just a tiny gendarmerie mostly made up of locals.

Correct answer, OP is a retard

This ending was a complete rip-off of Crysis btw.

The beach thing? Kinda sorta. For some reason Crytek reallllly hammered home the importance of the suit.

Well, that, and also the whole idea that you've been fighting and struggling against for three games, which nearly eradicated humanity with ease, is just an infinitesimally tiny fraction of an entity that hardly seems to notice our existence and was mostly just running a program on autopilot. The protagonist learns this in the course of their adventure and has it reinforced first hand when a ridiculously huge space construct emerges from a portal, which is just one of the trillions that they likely have. In the end their great victory is escaping the notice of said incomprehensibly powerful alien force and shutting the door, and leaving what's left of humanity to live outside of their sight.

That's all from Crysis: Legion and to a lesser extent Crysis 3.

Ehh it works better for Half-Life because we like Alyx, Gordon, and we are interested in the G-man and the Combine. Instead of giving us intrigue on the Ceph in C2, they give us C.E.L.L. and a whole lot of hubba on the fucking nanosuit. Not to mention Prophet completely takes over Alcatraz's identity, which was a dick move to say the least. Gordon being teleported to that beach is a well deserved rest, and we know it is because we've been playing as Gordon on a single journey since HL1 just trying to survive. Prophet is a career military man doing his job.

HP lovecraft did it before Crysis and I'm sure someone did before him

Not if you assume that they just took over a civ that can make Dyson spheres. The combines problem seems to be a lack of original thought, they can only acquire new tech by absorbing other cultures and people.

Quicksaves

The Combine left Earth after raping its asshole. Gordon and the resistance are fighting the people/ayy's that got transmogrified into a bare-minimum police force to keep humanity in line while they drain the planet's resources dry.

Hell, the whole plot of Episode Two is bombing the wormhole shut before the actual Combine come back to finish the job.

The main military force moved on, what you fought was just a garrison (which was recruiting from the local populace at that)
Had the portal not been destroyed at the end of Episode 2 then the real military would have shown up and killed everyone.

Post Combine world must be still pretty shitty. All that xen wild-life basically killed the ecosystem. Fishing is dead, the wilds are full of bullsquids, antlions, and other HL1 mobs. Head crabs are probably still everywhere, as are those zombies. Civilization was destroyed and humans just got the ability to breed again. I imagine a lot of the natural resources are just gone.

No doggos or kitties either.

Even if humanity won, it still wasn't a victory.

Literally nothing wrong with the Combine

Hey, HDTF is kino alright.

Not to mention Aperture created hand held teleportation

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>Suppression field down
Have sex

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>defeat the combine
Those are just transhuman forces,CPs n some synths

Alyx literally fucking says that if main force ever returns then it will be 7 minute war

Combine doesn't have a million planets and solar systems, they just have the same one over and over and over again.

>lack of original thought, they can only acquire new tech by absorbing other cultures and people
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

>we will never get official spin offs about the hardships of different humans in the Combine and post-Combine world like HL1 with Opp Force and Blueshift
IT HURTS TO LIVE FUCK YOU VALVE COMPANY OF FAGGOTS

AYY FREEMAN
REMEMBER BLACK MESA?

The shit on earth in HL2 wasn't the full main force of the combine.

It was kinda like an outpost with limited resources. Thats why you'd see them utilize human shit like railway systems and weaponry.

They could have been made canon, though.
Hell, they still could be.
If you could write them into the next game, without giving them much focus, how would you do so, Yea Forums?

If Gabe cared he'd hire one of the fan teams making Episode 3 and let them finish the story properly.

Steam hired the Black Mesa team. Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing but at least there is hope we get to see something before we die

>dude like the combine are so powerful that they use humans as their main force and use human technology
if they are so powerful why do they need to be so cheap?

youtube.com/watch?v=-yK86-8xFFM

FULLY MODELED

Because they don't really care all that much. Earth is some backwater world in their empire. They just harvest what they want and ignore it otherwise.

HL1's story was more limited in scope.

The scary part is that Race X has no affiliation with the combine at all, yet still managed to get into the Black Mesa incident

discount borg?

>"Get busy"

Westerners LOVE rebels. There is 0 logic for rebels to win, and yet they always do every single time.

Almost always the good guys too

The heroic underdog is just too tempting a plot direction. No one can think of a way to write an entertaining story where the little guy is crushed like the bug they are.

Uma

Even in the originals the Ethereals are the ones running shit. The game over ending states that Earth becomes some backwater in the distant reaches of a greater alien empire, which explains why it takes months for the aliens to progress from dinky scouts and terror missions to building bases and bringing in battleships. The Ethereal overseers only get involved when it's clear they've underestimated humanity and everything else has failed to subjugate X-Com.

They didn't and those were a handful of combine managing the planet and not the full invasion force

Delícia

Shephard and the alien baby he used as a gun could be buddy-cops.

>How did the resistance defeat the combine when professional armies couldn't do it in the 7 hour war.
They didn't.

First: Beating a civilisation in a war is a lot easier than keeping it subjugated.
Second: We never actually fight the combine in the game, we just fight their subservient humans and some of their tech.
Third: The only way to "beat" the combine is to make sure that they can't open a portal to our world. We can't actually "beat" them in battle, just make ourselves inaccessible.

Pure speculation: The GMan seems to be working towards the destruction of the Combine, which is why he's watching over Gordon and Alyx. Which, isn't to say he's a "good guy" but he's clearly dropping Gordon off at locations that will let him do the most damage to the Combine.

>As the HL3 ending shows us though, its a hopeless battle. We may have won skirmishes on earth but the combine are on such a higher level of existence and technology that there is no hope.

It's pretty obvious that hope lies with the GMan. Fucker is working some 4D Chess long-game bullshit, dropping Gordon exactly where he needs to be.

And the Xen men had been chased from their home to Xen, right? So they invaded Earth when they got the opportunity because they didn't want to be stuck on Xen forever.
And maybe Race-X was similar to the Xen creatures in that they were chased from their home and also wanted to invade, but there were much fewer of them, so their invasion was much smaller in scale. When they lost, perhaps their remnants went back to their space pirate ship and are hanging out on the moon.

Maybe some interested Combine scientists stationed on Earth saved the species which went extinct in the wild. We can hope.

AYYY FREEMAN BADA BING BADA BOOM CHOICES. REMEMBER BLACK MESA? FUGETTABOUTTT, YOUR TIME HAS CUM AGAIN AND I NEED TO TO SMELL MY GRANDFATHERS ASHES. WAKE UP FREEMAN, HURRY THE FUCK UP IM TRYIN TO GET A TRAIN HERE.

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*spits out coffee*

STOP THE HUMMENS

FERNS.

anyone got the vocaroo of this?

The true inheritors of Earth

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They spread from the waiting room at the dentist.

That's actually a neat idea

The Cinematic mod fucking sucks tho

Take that back

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Because he picked up the WEPON.

They had Frohman

I can't believe his brother died.

> The GMan seems to be working towards the destruction of the Combine
It would appear with Epistle 3 that that is the case. Epistle 3 shows that the G-Man's goal was making sure the Combine don't get a hold of the Borealis' insane teleportation technology, insuring that he and his employers retain sole mastery of anywhere anytime teleportation.
>But why contrive a scenario where Earth is invaded to do that? Why not just destroy the Borealis himself?
Because then Earth doesn't have a savior to look up to for generations and unite them. Earth needed to "earn" its victory over the Combine. Essentially the exact opposite of Watchmen.

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god damnit Chuck

top tier design

that's just a rip off of Freespace and Freespace 2

But that's literature.
And that's not an FPS ffs

>that's not an FPS
What has that got to do with anything

You're right I should have said
>But that's not a series with the idiosyncrasies of the atmosphere exuded by the G-Man, Black Mesa, City 17, etc.

How did the vietnamese defeat USA when germany couldn't do it in 2 world wars?

lazy writing

What has that got to do with anything. An idea is an idea. A plot is a plot. They differ in their telling but they're ultimately the same thing.

>What has that got to do with anything
Because the killing of Ganon in BoTW is not the same as the killing of Ganon in The Legend of Zelda. That is as clear as I can make it without actually saying my point, man. Come on.

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Because the USA gave up? Because the USA didn't bring its full might against a bunch of rice farmers and reduce the entire country to radioactive ash and craters? Because Germany never came close to be able to mount any kind of invasion of the USA? The fuck kind of point you trying to make here

>city 17 is the entirety of the combine

fully

Guerilla warfare vs 7 hours of straight forward war

The Combine on earth are also just a small security occupying force, the actual combine army is supposedly ridiculously large and overwhelming, its why when the citedal was destroyed the combine on earth tried to contact the rest for back up

>whole of earth's armies vs all of the combine
vs
>small army vs small combine force protecting a single city

presumably the majority of the forces left to do more important shit in other cities or dimensions or whatever

Finally someone with a brain cell

there is a chance he is just retarded but he might be saying that similar to the Vietnam War the Combine just give up realizing that they are too much trouble for what they are worth

And you are telling me that the combine couldn't do the same thing? Instead of sending grunts and tripods against people who knew the place, bomb it?

You still don't understand that the combine were a metaphor for usa?

they dreamt of fucking cheese my dude

>And you are telling me that the combine couldn't do the same thing?
...They left. The Earth Combine are an occupation force. Did you not play the games, let alone Episode Two?

More or less this, didn't the combine have a much greater force? Didn't the combine go to earth to take its resources (metaphor for oil)? Couldn't the combine just bomb the fucking place?

They are an occupation force, yeah, for the earth resources. I wonder if that reminds me of something...

>And you are telling me that the combine couldn't do the same thing? Instead of sending grunts and tripods against people who knew the place, bomb it?
>They are an occupation force, yeah,
You're just floundering now.

ah so they're the good guys and freeman is a dirty socialist

They don't have Impulse 101

>start trouble in the world
>other countries implore you don't cause a war
>cause a war anyway
>other countries step in to beat the shit out of you
>since they won, may as well loot your country
>"wtf evil america!! stop taking resources from my country after I started a war because I'm the aggressor and you defeated me wtf you have literally no right to do this!!"

Was the Black Mesa incident public knowledge? Did the armies of earth KNOW what they were up against?

Use your head next time.

I HAVE TO KILL FAST AND BULLETS TOO SLOW

No they didnt, they only allowed Black Mesa to be commercialized and praised them but no hires.

I always thought race x was just xen based combine

this is a pretty kino thread

So IF valve were to make HL3... what settings,enemies,gimmicks and boss fights do you think will be there?
I'm thinking of previous BM enemies that we've faced that are fleeing and hiding from the combine in antartica. Maybe also do a siege on the borealis with them aswell

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>be next exporter of oil
>people think you need to invade towelhead shit holes to steal it

Dude Warren buffet isn't going to spemd 100 000$ on mercenaries to break into your house and steal your wallet.

they had wepon

ferned

that's like saying IF manufacturers made car tires out of cheesy, what brand of cheese would it be, and what would be good bread to go along with it

like no, dude, your entire premise is dumb and wrong. valve did not make ep3/hl3 specifically because they ran out of cool ideas of what to do with the series. valve has no code monkeys whose entire job is to sit in front of a desk and do what they're told, so if nobody in the company is interested in making a sequel to half-life, no sequel to half-life happens

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...what?

Breen literally became one after his mind was transferred to a grub, so they seem to be a species utilized for this purpose of bookkeeping, like how gunships are another animal and so are striders

>The CP squads
Shit, they recruited from Yea Forums?

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>this is your brain on american propaganda

that's how I always imagines real "space empires" (if such exist) function

Power of friendship

I WILL USE BEAR HANDS

I like how in Black Mesa, they animated the other scientist to give him real "WTF?"look for being so grave sounding.

Black Mesa is just pure SOUL