How many times can a franchise fuck up so bad? Time after time, how is it possible?

How many times can a franchise fuck up so bad? Time after time, how is it possible?

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Because Sonic is genuinely loved by the fan-base and his effect on the both the game industry at large and the internet have never been matched.

Mario conquered games.
Sonic conquered the internet.

But they eat SHIT. They eat shit and DEMAND MORE. The people who enjoy Sonic the Hedgehog are MENTALLY INCAPABLE of recognizing bad works.

Extermination is necessary.

Sonic was never good.

Literally any Sonic fan will tell you Sonic 06 and Secret Rings are dumpster fires. They will argue with you about every other game though. The games have improved since then.

Too many people defend Sonic Heroes.

Conversely, be nicer to Sonic 4.

I mean that's your opinion man. It's fine to not like a cartoon hedgehog. Do you need validation that badly?

Fucking cope.

Sonic Forces was shit and that should have been the last straw.

Ep2 is pretty fun honestly.

It's pretty much on the level of Sonic and the Black Knight. Aggressively mediocre. Which is an arguably worse fate than bad.

Colors was a mistake.

Every time I see this I always wonder if I can win against it.

Seething

It's meh. Like Heroes has some genuinely great moments. Like Egg Fleet Act 1 is the quintessence of how great the game could be, while Act 2 is everything bad about it.

Overly long levels, bad collision and an over-reliance on really fucking long rails and mediocre combat. If heroes got a sequel these could have been easily ironed out, but Sonic Team can't stick to and improve one idea.

I never finished any sanic game
however
I do like sanic a lot

Cope.

Seething.

Is this just gonna be the entire rest of the thread or what? both comebacks are so worn out anyway...

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Seething.

Seewhat you did?

Cope.

ITT

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EVERYBODY SUPER SONIC RAPING
GOTTA KEEP A PEPPER SPRAY IN HAND
WHEN YOU'RE SUPER SONIC RAPING
THERE'S NO TIME FOR REACH AROUNDS

The second and fourth lines don't rhyme. I like the joke, but it would be funnier if they actually followed the rhyming scheme.

fair enough. completely overlooked that lol.

playing through sonic adventure 1 for the first time since i was a kid
why is the light speed dash so shit
why is the camera so bad
why is the collision so spotty
why is the overworld so boring
WHY IS EGG VIPER SO UNFUN
i just beat sonic story and im already considering dropping this
its fun when it works but it only works every now and again

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Welcome to a Sonic Fan's hell. When it's on point there is nothing like it. When it isn't it, well, you know how it is.

Sonic games are flawed but some have fun ideas and neat things in them
Its entirely subjective tho considering how different most of the games are to one another, so you got a really divided fan base on what games are good or bad
its not people like ask for shit, they ask for good Sonic games
>but there are no good sonic games
according to people who buy these games, they consider that there are some good games and buy more games hoping that they will be good as well
call it blind faith if you want, but as someone who also enjoys some sonic games, I can understand the want for something good in something you enjoy

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Mario has games of great quality

Sonic is more of a popular culture icon, the cartoons and comics made sure everyone were very used to seeing sonic even if they didn't had the sega consoles

You would think the juice from the fucking Genesis would be gone by now, but apparently not!

Sonic can reach that quality as well. It's just Sonic Team doesn't put in the time or effort to get to that point. They way they develop games is cheap and fast. It's a problem.

>Sonic can reach that quality as well.
Eh.. probably not. Mario64 was what it was, when it was.

Being "good" is useless. All that matters is that people know sonic.

You can't just complain about shit taste and defend shit taste

Can doesn't imply the series has. Mario 64 was made perfect because Nintendo's higher-ups care more about making quality products rather than making a buck. Especially when it comes to their mascot. SEGA doesn't have that kind of culture. It's always been about the money more than the product.

Meant to say quick buck instead of just buck. Nintendo cares about making money obviously.

sonic 4 episode 2 actually had some kinda fun bullshit broken 2 player mechanics where you could effectively permanently avoid dying from a pit death.

Can't they just make a Phantasy Star movie so that we can finally get PSO2NA?

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>Too many people defend Sonic Heroes.

This desu.

>Mario 64 was made perfect because Nintendo's higher-ups care more about making quality products rather than making a buck.
the n64 was a failure because nintendo's higher-ups literally cared more about making a quick buck than what was best for the product.

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As long as SEGA remains the largest [gambling] company in all of Japan, they're free to fuck Sonic up deeper and deeper forever.

I like pretty much every Sonic game. Sonic is one of the many wondrous journeys you can take as a true enlightened video game enthusiast. A journey that never ceases to amaze with it's high lows and high highs. I wouldn't change it for anything. Sure Sonic 06 could have been better, but I am still glad it was made.

Test.