When will you give up your crusade to defend Sonic Adventure?

Oh boy, another hesse falseflagger. Don't you usually harass the sonic general? What a waste of what could have been a nice Sonic thread.

I think every Sonic game has atleast one good element even Sonic 06
youtube.com/watch?v=sISy3JHTpVo

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Who's falseflagging?

I bet that artist does porn, I can feel it in my balls.

It's actually one of the only good 3d Sonics.

Nice bait. Sorry for taking it. Literally every genesis game was good. Saged.

When will you stop shoving Denuvo and dead memes down our throats?

>3D Blast

It would have been slightly better with analogue controls. Dpad doesn't really do it much good.

Then make it a good thread and ignore the OP.

Well, what do you think of TSR? It's almost out.

I am not that hype but that's because I never really got into Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed.

Alright, so what about the possible upcoming games? I actually thought it was a good idea to make multiple teams so the games can have more focus.

I hadn't heard they were doing that but SUPPOSEDLY they want to make better games and apologized for it.

When you accept that the sonic 1 and 2 are on the same level as adventure

When will you give up your crusade of thinking Sonic was ever good?

Was this after or before forces

Yeah, they're forming a new pillar system so that they can have multiple teams to handle the different genres of Sonic. Basically Sonic Team to handle the 3D stuff, Christian Whitehead and his goons to handle more classic games and Sumo Digital to handle the racing spinoffs. I think it's a good idea because it basically means every fan gets what they want without worrying about Sonic Team trying desperately to cram every possible thing into each game like they tried with Forces.

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never. the game is technically shit but has such a powerful strange charm to it that makes it amazing. one could say it has a "soul".

only 1/6th of the game was good

Before, after Rise of Lyric.

Then they really gotta pick up the pace.

Cruise control shitposting: Pretend to be a part of a fanbase and try to drive a wedge in it

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No one really part of the Sonic fanbase thinks any of the games past S&K are any good.

And only 1/6th of your opinion matters. What’s it to ya

Fuck off zoomer. You don't get to rewrite history just because a modern 2D sonic got you interested in the series.

Pretty much, I loved Mania since release day but that does not just change the fact that 3D Sonic mattered too.

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If 3D Sonic didn't suck so much Sega might have never brought back Classic 2D Sonic to try and salvage the series. In the end 3D Sonic really did matter.

I'm honestly pretty fine with them co-existing. They are both fun to me so two fun things is better than one.

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I'm old enough to be your father, Dumbest Generation kid. I was a fucking adult when Sonic 1 was released.

Just because you're surrounded by a bunch of dumb kids here doesn't mean everyone is.

Alright... Sonic Adventure was still good, "grandpappy." If you really are that old you'd know that Adventure was impressive as fuck for the time. It's held back by other gamemodes, but Sonic stages are legitimately still fun. Fuck off if you claim otherwise, regardless of how many gray hairs you're sporting.

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Well do you hate Sonic?

>impressive as fuck
To dumb new gamers who were brainwashed into liking shitty style-over-substance shit games, just like many other games of the time, like Mario 64, Metal Gear Solid, and Half-Life.

God fucking damn it, Dumbest Generation. It's time for you to grow up and understand how gaming is supposed to work. Go play pre-1995 games exclusively for a year or two and come back to apologize.

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Mario 64 was unfun compared to Sonic Adventure. I was the guy with an N64 instead of a Dreamcast, too. It doesn't matter how many magazine critics jerk off M64, it doesn't even compare.

Do you think it could still turn out better if it was improved with modern day advancements? I know people tend to praise the 3D tech demo fangames sonic fans come up with. Utopia, Sonic Islands, etc.

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It's the music. It's literally always the music.

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>Mario 64 was unfun compared to Sonic Adventure
Lol, Mario's worst is better than Sonic's best

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If only that were actually true. Mario 64 was plagued by the same bad camera, and an even worse array of enemies. Such series classics as "rolling ball"... ball which spits fire. Ball with eyes that explodes... ball that pushes you off a platform...

And what memorable powerups! Walk through certain walls... uh... sink in water...

Howdy. My first Sonic games were the Adventure titles, I have massive nostalgia for them and even I know they're shit.

You'd have to be mentally challenged to actually think Sonic has better games than Mario.

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My first game was Sonic 1, and I could tell the Sonic stages were well made. You let people talk you down from a game you assumed was pure nostalgia I guess.

>Metacritic

94 feels kind of low.

The great emerald's power allows me to feel

No, but replaying the games via DX probably didn't help my re-evaluation of the games. My main problem with them aside from being the games that started "smarmy outdated quips Sonic that doesn't shut the fuck up" is the fact that nothing feels as smooth as the 2D Sonic games. Slight terrain changes stop you in your tracks. Sonic pivots randomly is the stage slopes or turns, all speed is fixed and there's no reason to not spam spindash, loops are automated setpieces, etc. Adventure is objectively loaded down with flaws even if you play the best versions that don't constantly kill you with floor clipping

>no good games
enjoy your series that has been in the shitter since the 90s

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>the Metacritic defense
Classic.

If you want to shit on Sonic, you should have chosen Ocarina of Time. I'd actually have a hard time arguing with you. Mario 64 is shit though.

>aside from being the games that started "smarmy outdated quips Sonic that doesn't shut the fuck up"
TV Sonic started that years earlier.

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>scat fetish
video games.

I won't argue the games are flawless. Who the fuck would ever claim that about Sonic Adventure? But they are still a blast, and those hiccups aside, they're a very good time.

>Sonictard saying Mario game is shit

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I like pretty much every Sonic game. Sonic is one of the many wondrous journeys you can take as a true enlightened video game enthusiast. A journey that never ceases to amaze with it's high lows and high highs. I wouldn't change it for anything. Sure Sonic 06 could have been better, but I am still glad it was made.

Oh, and the Adventure series was objectively good.

Just Mario 64. Sunshine was a pretty good recovery. Flawed, but a step in the right direction.

I'd probably chalk it up to being a result of the time period it was made, honestly. Was there any other game trying to do pinball physics platforming at mach 1 in the late 90s? Perhaps technology just wasn't ready for it yet. But modern advancements help.
youtu.be/w1CEN5gVs5Q
youtu.be/1Tg4pf1lCnk

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mario 64 and sonic adventure are both shit

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Compared to the Adventure series, 64 is god tier.

By today's standards it's obviously aged, but it's still a great game. You just have shit tastes

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Do you really think a glorified minigame filled sandbox is worth defending? Boy I sure love entering the same stage 5 times just to grab one more mcguffin. Collectathons were a dark age in video games.

Though I guess I can't exactly pretend you aren't biased, don't think I didn't notice your mario reactions with absolutely every post. Nintendo fucked up hard with the N64, bro. They singlehandedly paved the road for the rise of Sony.

holy fucking lol
imagine saying that the worst 3D mario barring 3D land is a step up from the best 3D mario
GC babies everyone

When will you give up your crusade to attack Sonic Adventure?

What happened to "Mario can do no wrong?" Your facade slipped.

Oh hey look, a Sonic Adventure clone coming out in a couple weeks

youtube.com/watch?v=U1sIGMnV4_o

This dude's games are janky and rough as hell but still enjoyable in their own way

Unfortunately hating Sonic Adventure is a meme now. It's been 16 years since Adventures and Heroes and people STILL meme on "TOO MANY FRIENDS!"

What's wrong with the gameplay of half life?

>Yea Forums is one person

It's so fucking pathetic that SA1 is still one of, if not the best 3D Sonic.

>enemy sections
>pathway level design
>boost
>weapons
>double jump
>a Sonic Adventure clone

The pacing is terrible even on Sonic story and the levels didn't helped much sometimes.

>they didn't play the best 3d platformer

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Don't bother. It's a zoomer meme to hate it because Valve has become little more than a storefront for other games. Now that Half-Life fandom has receded, they're able to pretend it was never good.

Well yeah, the sonic has shitty friends thing has been a meme for a while. People are just fine with them if they are actually handled right which is what 06 got wrong. I gotta give Mania credit for something, it was the game that hopefully reminded Sega that people still care about Sonic's friends. You see how excited everyone got when they revealed Tails and Knuckles would be in Mania? youtu.be/98eoSTr8ips It was pretty awesome. People also really grew to like Mighty and Ray when Plus came out. So I really hope the game gave Sega a wakeup call that People do still want more than just Sonic playable in the newer games, just so long as they play well.

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>he doesn't know
Yea Forums in 2019

>Collectathons were a dark age in video games.
And yet they were insanely popular and prasied back in the day.
>Nintendo fucked up hard with the N64, bro
Not as much as the SEGA Dreamcast
>They singlehandedly paved the road for the rise of Sony.
So you're moving the goalposts to "Sonic Adventure>64" to "muh Sony". Nice try retard.

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The pacing is bizarre, yeah. I spent most of my time in the hub revisiting levels though. I barely even remember the order of stages you're actually supposed to do.

It doesn't even have Denuvo anymore, update your shitposting catalogue.

Well, Mania doesn't at least. Forces and TSR still do.

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>his speed when going through loops
Christ why can't the whole game be like that.

Sega might have removed Denuvo from Mania but they still put it in other games like TSR.

>And yet they were insanely popular and prasied back in the day.
So popular, they inspired Yooka Laylee, to be immediately forgotten on release, because there's a reason people stopped liking these games.
>do a thing
>get 1/10th of a key
It's a shitty genre, it just took people a while to realize.

>"muh Sony"
Gotta keep you humble. I'm not even a Sonytard. Nintendo created their biggest modern rivals. That's a hardcore fuckup. Post more smug Marios, that should nullify their own retardation.

That trailer and the reactions to it STILL brings a tear to my eye unironically. Mania is a treasure

Modern Sonic failed, the design screams late 90s, the games are not just terrible, they also miss the point of Sonic's formula and it's literally a meme. If SEGA were smart they would just replace him with Classic Sonic after Sonic Mania's success.

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>TSR

team racing games have literally never worked out, whomst cares.

Memories to forever cherish, I can't wait to have hype threads like that again.
youtu.be/wvD8NZN9Zsg

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>SA1 has the most soul out of all the pre-boost era
>high level gameplay is mostly spin dash to win whenever you can
>Unleashed has the most soul out of all the boost era
>high level gameplay is just boost and jump at the right time to win
I guess now I get why Lizuka is so obsessed with every 3D game being different just for the sake of it, he wants to recreate that spark the debut of a new style had, too bad Forces was handled like shit because I heard the OC was the better part of the game.

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Sonic the Darkbrotherhood was unironically a good game and the only sonic game with a good story

SA 1 is good because of the abusable physics. SA 2 is hot garbage

SEGA did everything right with the Sega Dreamcast. I've even heard it was selling great for the company by the end of its life but they were too far in the red to stay in the console market. It's everything before the Dreamcast (Saturn, 32X, CD, Nomad) that led to Sega's failure.

>this bitch for real?

never you cur

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This does look kind of cool but when the vocals kicked in I burst out laughing. What the fuck were they thinking lmao

It's still enjoyable but it, and including adventure 2, has aged like milk.

Name one thing that's good about Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric.

What are some good mods for Mania?

I can't forgive a game that took away Emerl and gave us so much Penders drama

Because it happened, we got a pretty good TV show.

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This game is pure kino with excellent music. You're just a sad faggot that you never got to enjoy this masterpiece as a child

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Megamix Mania, Sonic Gaiden, Sonic3master or Sonic 3XP, the many different level mods, etc. Though Megamix is still an early demo and Gaiden has yet to be released. youtu.be/7tFQ-RL3cmo
You can find a lot of mods on gamebanana. gamebanana.com/games/6045

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>So popular, they inspired Yooka Laylee, to be immediately forgotten on release, because there's a reason people stopped liking these games.
Maybe because Yooka Laylee is a genuinely shit game?
>It's a shitty genre, it just took people a while to realize.
Yeah, that's why A Hat In Time took off didn't it?
>Gotta keep you humble. I'm not even a Sonytard. Nintendo created their biggest modern rivals. That's a hardcore fuckup. Post more smug Marios, that should nullify their own retardation.
Love how the goalposts shifted from Sonic Adventure to immediately deflecting to Sony shit. You must've realized that you legitimately can't defend Sonic anymore and went full Sonytard.
>SEGA did everything right with the Sega Dreamcast.
No, the dreamcast was a failure that barely lasted 2 years on the market

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Reminder that it's people like you and others who feel the same, that started the franchise's downfall.

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Still the best music in all 3D Sonic for me, just the Emerald Coast track takes you somewhere else.

Why the Sonic Hatedom, belongs in a internment camp

>Maybe because Yooka Laylee is a genuinely shit game?
A bad genre spawned a bad game? Unthinkable!
>B-but A Hat in Time!
It's barely even a collectathon. The game is linear as fuck, aside from Mafia island.
>MUH GOALPOSTS!
How convenient you don't have to defend against my legitimate point. Keep sucking from Nintendo's teat, they can do no wrong!

this

I know that feeling, doesn't help when the falseflaggers come in to make fans of games look worse. Not all Mania fans are actually that bad either, thankfully.

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>Sonic Boom TV show
How old is this image?

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Holy shit Megamix Mania? That's a fucking thing?

yep this

>Emerald Coast

For me it's
youtube.com/watch?v=PKs5dBfcB9g

Like I said I still remember this melody clear as day 20 years later

Yeah, fans are trying to recreate Sonic Megamix as faithfully as they can in Mania.
youtu.be/efBmhyUBsrA

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>A bad genre spawned a bad game? Unthinkable!
A "bad" genre spawned AHiT, which was well received.
>D-DOESN'T COUNT
It's still a colletctathon nigger and it BTFOs your entire argument
>How convenient you don't have to defend against my legitimate point.
What point? You went from sucking Sonics dick to sucking on Sonys'. Fuck off retard. Your Adventure games are ass
>Keep sucking from Nintendo's teat, they can do no wrong!
>reading things that aren't there

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Just let Sonic Team do something that isn't Sonic for fucks sake, they aren't tech wizards like in the 90s but I bet they could still make something fun as long as the team is full of talent like it used to be.

ahem

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>A "bad" genre spawned AHiT
Any hybrid game can make a good game if it doesn't focus on what made the genre bad.
>It's still a colletctathon nigger
Too bad the only things that made it good were real, non-collectathon stage progression, nigger.
>Your Adventure games are ass
They were and always will be better than Mario 64. You don't have enough smug marios to undo that.

I CANT SEE A THING BUT ITS AROUN SOMWERE

I love all these fanarts where fans had to make up what the Sonic Boom cast's designs may look like

I ain't gonna let it get to me, I'm just gonna let it get to me

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Oh, and S3K >>> Mario World

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are the only good sonic games. The original games all sucked and Mario was always better.

Now listen here you lil shit

Rush Adventure is a good game.

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I wish I had saved more of them.

i'm surprised that this doesn't mention deviantart or chris-chan

it looks so bad when he goes over the water, why didnt they just have him run on it

I liked Sonic Adventure more than Sonic Adventure 2, everyone had a unique playstyle and even if a lot of it is super janky, at least the more bizzare playstyles also had the shorter campaigns in case stuff like fishing wasn't your style.

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we cant go back can we brother?

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This whole clusterfuck of antagonism from Classicfags, and Journalists towards the Sonic franchise in the form of revisionism and "harsh truths" is a good example why gaming is slowly dying,

>defend
>sonic
I've lost you.
Sonic has terrible character design in all of the games he appears in. The basic game mechanics of sonic games (hold right) are awful, Literally everything about sonic, the sonic brand, the sonic video games, and everything else sonic related, is god-awful and terrible and you should feel bad if you are a fan in any capacity.

I accept that both Adventure games are full of stupid and unfun moments but I can still have fun with the better parts of each game and the soundtracks are both god-tier.

The best part is that no matter how different your gameplay style was, you were still beholden to momentum and going fast if you earned it. Compare Gamma with SA2's mechs, it's night and fucking day.

I should add that the live action trailer is par for the course. Only now have you realized what I've known all along, yet it took a movie trailer to clue you in.

the only way is forward
enjoy your new PSO game

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I miss my pinball physics, bro. No more boost, please

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>sidescrollers are now all awful
Neck yourself, gremlin.

Fuck you I just I just like pinball in my platformers.

mommy i want to revision history

Gaming is Dead

Indeed.

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Is this the "don't get pissed off" challenge thread?

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cursed thumbnail

> hybrid game can make a good game if it doesn't focus on what made the genre bad
It's not a "hybrid" game it's a fucking collectathon. Jut because it BTFOs your entire argument doesn't mean you can excuse it by calling it a "hybrid".
>Too bad the only things that made it good were real, non-collectathon stage progression, nigger.
It's literally praised as a collectathon game. Try again. You just personally dont like collectathon games, but the genre itself isn't shit. Again, that's just your own shitty tastes.
>They were and always will be better than Mario 64.
says literally nobody except for one retard on Yea Forums. Nobody here is stupid enough to claim SA is better than 64 except for you.

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I'd say there's still some chill enough discussion going on between people who decided to ignore the OP and shitposters.

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i remember being really happy when I learned that ragrappies actually fake getting hurt

I'd honestly take Adventure's ability to push physics over 64's more complex, but more grounded moveset. Getting to the tops of skyscrapers on Speed Highway is a great feeling.

Sonic Adventure is shit. Sonic Adventure 2, however...

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I just wonder how much the levels on the first Adventure game were held back by the hardware, early Windy Valley proves they had totally the right idea but it was too big for the dreamcast apparently, the physics of the game must have been affected by this too.

>took 3+ games to make one as good as SMW

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FPBP. 3D Sonic has always sucked.

more like 4/6ths but ok

>First was Samurai Jack, then Mania
Well he was half right at least.

AHiT's levels have clear, linear progression 90% of the time. The entire stage changes and you only have 1 job to do.
>B-but they hyped it as Collectathon! COLLECTATHON!
They had to lure chumps like you with rose tinted nostalgia goggles over garbage like Mario 64, because what kind of marketing strategy is "It's another linear game! And you proceed forward!" The primary difference is the devs of Yooka Laylee actually believed Collectathons were a salvageable genre, and their game tanked because they bet took that losing bet.

>says literally nobody
I'm sorry you don't get to hear opinions in your Mario hugbox. Don't worry, "Yea Forums - Nintendo" will shield you from better opinions.

When Sonic Mania came out, it reminded me of why the pinball physics matter in Sonic games, so yes, I elect for them to return to 3D too, just obviously streamlined more. Boost just doesn't work with that because if Sonic had actual momentum to him, all it would take is one tap of the boost button to fly across over half the stage, so they naturally gotta gimp how he feels so it won't snap the game in half.
It probably really is just an age thing, plenty of modern day tech demo fangames show it off better.

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is shittier

>saw this thread when it was first up
>didnt post hoping it'd just die
>162 posts later
Stop falling for bait fags.

We're not all tho, some of us are just discussing while ignoring the shitposters.

The Dreamcast was a failure because of Sega's past mistakes. If Sega didnt release the 32X and CD, and properly launched the Saturn with the 3rd party support it desperately needed, the Dreamcast would have performed much better.

Pretending to be mad about something is the only way to have a thread on nu-Yea Forums

It took until Mania for me to appreciate the Genesis games' physics.

...Super Mario World is the 4th core Mario.

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They did nail it pretty hard with the Retro Engine. For all the flak Sonic Fans get for their autism, it can create some cool things sometimes.

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>Super Mario world is the 5th Mario game

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Sonic 1 - 7/10
Sonic 2 9/10
Sonic 3 8/10
Sonic and Knuckles 8/10
Sonic CD 9/10
Mania 10/10

Sonic Advanced 8/10
Sonic Advanced 2 8/10
I didn't play Sonic Advanced 3
Sonic Rush 8/10
Didn't play the second one

Sonic Adventure DX 6/10
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle 7/10
Sonic Heroes 5/10
Shadow the Hedgehog 6/10
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) 1/10
Didn't play Colors
Didn't play Unleashed
Sonic Generations 7/10
Didn't play Forces

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Oh and Sonic Lost World is a 7/10 at first and drops to a 5/10 by the end

>didn't understand what I said at all

It took Sonic 3 games to make one remotely as good as World.

Not a bad ranking list. Though the biggest problem with Mania was the nostalgia holding back its true potential. If we just got a fully new 2D AND 3D Sonic game? They'd probably be the games of the century.

>It only took Sonic 3 games to make one better than World which took Mario 4+ tries to do.
I know it's a bitter pill. Swallow it fast.

That's still less games in the Sonic series than it took for the Mario series to get as good as Super Mario World.

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4+ tries?
Mario 1, Mario 2 JP, Mario 2 USA, Mario 3.
That's 4, but what would the + be in this case?

You're forgetting Arcade Mario Bros, and/or Donkey Kong. And you already listed +. I claimed it WAS the fourth try.

I just love how Sonic Team literally can't make their own game anymore, and if they could it wouldn't be as tasteful as Mania anyway.

will there ever be an OST as kino as this again?
youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08

Fuck mariofags and fuck manianiggers. SA Remake is coming and there's nothing you can to stop it.

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It's obviously gonna be made by inexperienced nu-Sonic Team and isn't even gonna be comfy like the original so why bother.

I wish DX already was the remake we needed.

i'm a classic friend and I was never against it, tho. I say they can proceed.

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Fuck big the cat and omochao. I wanted Amy's power partner on team sonic racing to be storm the albatross or chaos zero. Cream the rabbit was supposed to be on team rose.

I love Mania AND Adventure. No need to contribute to the shitposting wars, friend.

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Even the other 2/6ths weren't as awful as people make them out to be

I like mario, but I hate sonic mania. I want sonic adventure on nintendo switch either as a port or a remake.

Enjoy your soulless disaster directed by Kishimoto and made in the Lost World engine.

tick. toc.

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Mania fags are cancerous scum that need to get their skulls bashed in. Kill yourself you piece of shit old ass boomers.

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I like sonic adventure 2, sonic 06, the sonic boom tv show, the movie design, and sonic forces. I hate sonic mania, the game grumps, and ign.

There's no way the controls of an Adventure remake aren't the 3D Sonic equivalent of playing Classic in Generations.

well that image is six tenths correct.

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Yooka Laylee is a shit game. I boycotted it because they showed me that since Jontron was removed, then they could have fired Grant Kirkhope if someone cried wolf and called him a racist too.

Mods? Cream the rabbit, shadow the hedgehog, Amy rose, and blaze the cat should be dlc.

Mario 64 is overrated but it's fundamentally a good, well designed game. Sonic Adventure is not. There's a reason why sega stopped making sonic adventure games.

>Muh metacritic
Go fuck yourself you stupid faggot, do you know what game had the highest score before Mania? SA2, and i bet that if Dreamcast SA1 reviews were that shit site, the game would easily have +96 metascore.

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t. the same fag who posted OP
Keep forcing the dichotomy, go brag to reddit about how you caused le epic sonic war!

man even the art style from the mania short is fucking dog shit. the epitome of soul less. truly made by people who do not give a fuck

>adventure remake by nu-sonic team
>every asset is remade in lost world and forces' shitty blocky art style
>uses the lost world engine like forces did
>english script is rewritten by pontaff
>they probably won't even bother getting ryan drummond back on board for the english version and we'll get boomer sonic again

No thanks. Maybe if Sonic Team somehow becomes as competent as it was prior to 2013, but that'll never happen.

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Modernfags can't meme

I hate how Amy rose could not find better partners than big the cat and omochao. I wanted cream the rabbit. I even like e10000g and scr gp(power robots from sonic riders games) better than big. Tikal and chaos zero would have been good partners for Amy rose.

I would buy sonic 06 on nintendo switch.

I'm buying team sonic racing before the month ends. I will watch the live action movie.

Don't mind shitposter-kun, he's out of coffee. Now for some sonic tunes.
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Wasn't Adventure style gameplay like in 6 games? That shit is just loved only because boost is even worse, fuck people saying "it can work I swear!" they feel like a goddamn socialist at this point

*AHEM*

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Sonic mania is the Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee of sonic, a game I can skip.

Good game. I want to kiss Amy rose, rouge the bat, and Tikal.

Throwing an underrated one your way: youtu.be/OmaDfHU303E

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I can support that.

youtube.com/watch?v=IaykX3Cie3E
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I'll buy it on nintendo switch if they bother putting it on.

Sonic Mania is just the modern Sonic 2.

I like the secret rings and the black knight better than sonic mania and I've never even played those games.

at least the music would be kino. even lost world and forces had some bangers

you prefer two fully 3d fleshed out soulful and kino games over a fucking rom hack? nice. more power to ya buddy,

SEETHING

I know the game looked like it had jank going on, but I wish it had still come out just because.
Only 18 more days to TSR, Sonicbro.

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>rom hack
I know you fags have no concept of professionalism and quality control but that meme is deader than Michael Jackson.

I actually did consider buying Forces on Switch but utlimately didn't because of how shit it turned out to be. I did get Mania and will likely be getting TSR though.

Wow I want this

mania is LITERALLY a rom hack you fool.

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then why can't it run on my genesis?

I like the idea of a 2D Sonic with a 3D plane used sparingly much more than I'd like to admit, that game was extremely far from complete but if they had done just that it would be a much necessary bridge between 2D and 3D Sonic, it would have more substance than spin off stuff like 3D Blast at least

Taxman made the engine. It's not a fucking "rom hack."

Name a better one since that's our threshold.

I like sonic adventure 2. I can understand cream the rabbit being absent from that but cream the rabbit missing from team sonic racing is bullshit. #FuckOmochao

I would impersonate sonic the hedgehog to have Amy rose all over me.

If STI got the team they needed, Sonic Xtreme could've been a decent game. Not legendary or greatest of all time, but definitely interesting and fun to play.

digimon isn't dead, and sonic certainly isn't good enough to belong in the same sentence with digimon anyway.

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3 complete or A.I.R.

Well yeah, really makes you wonder how things would have played out differently had it worked out.

I hated big the cat's gameplay. I wish knuckles had regular levels like sonic, but I don't hate the character knuckles.

what kind of dumb fuckin retard thinks digimon is better than this series. top kek

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Reminder that only dumbass boomers, soi drinking game journos and any other millennials who haven't given a shit about Sonic since the 2000s actually think those LOL EPIC jokes about the fanbase are still true. In reality most of the autism went away in the early 2010s and several other fandoms have since dethroned it as being the worst. Obviously all the weird DeviantArt shit and whatever tired examples you like to use still exist, but it's nowhere near as prevalent these days as it was in the 2000s when these discussions were still relevant.

Also, Sonic's fanbase and its "autism" is the only reason Sonic Mania, a game with actual, genuine passion put into it, exists. Nu-Sonic Team would NEVER be able to do anything on that level. See how Forces handled Classic Sonic for proof.

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Sonic's never been bad.

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I want to kiss sonic the hedgehog, tails, and Amy rose on green hill while they are tape gagged.

other tired examples they like to use*
Sorry, I forgot to correct that part since I mainly use that copypasta against the type of people your image was mocking.

>Carnival Night Zone
Ew.

It's just the Sonic General's resident shitposter trying to take the wheel here too, I recognize by the posting style.

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I recently played through SA again and still found it to be a lot of fun even with the bugs/quirks

I think you faggots need to get it through your thick skulls that Sonic Team doesn't have an autistic obsession with "muh physics" like you guys do. Other than that, based comment. Only boomers and out of touch jaded e-celeb dick riders spout those tired memes.

I love scr gp. I wish he teamed up with Amy rose on team sonic racing instead of big the cat.

youtube.com/watch?v=mavPaUCXWyg

sonic has never produced anything as good as tamers or bokura no war game, in any medium.

the only people still pushing that narrative are smashfags trying to deflect from how they're the worst fanbase in the history of gaming.

digimon like all zombie franchises, is in the constant state of being in the middle of a comeback and having another comeback right around the corner.

There's a whole bunch of storylines that were planned for Sonic Xtreme, it's a fun read, Sonic Twist is my personal favorite: info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_X-treme_storylines

>Sonic Team doesn't have an autistic obsession with "muh physics" like you guys do.
It's far more than just the physics though. The level design is also shit and the attempt to make the music sound Genesis-like instead of just making new tracks that embody the "Classic Sonic" feeling is also lame (Though Ghost Town is a banger).

And while sub-par physics aren't really a game breaker for me, I think it becomes a problem when the designers have to litter the level with speed bumpers and put invisible springs at the end of ramps to even get Sonic moving. Generations handled Classic far better so it's inexcusable, but then again the whole issue with Forces (gameplay wise) comes down to them trying to fit boost gameplay and classic style sidescrolling into Lost World's engine. I really can't help but wonder if they lost the one used for Generations.

you couldn't be more wrong, faggot.

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I always have. The battle with Perfect Chaos with "Open up Your Heart" playing at the beginning was absolute kino. Then sadly, they change it to some shitty boring and generic "dark/threatening" tune halfway through his HP. Should have kept it for the entire battle!

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Said nobody ever.

When will you zoomers give up your crusade to retroactively convince people that the Sonic Adventure games weren't good?

Generations was good despite not having physics as priority (fuck revisionist that pretend it wasn't a breath of fresh air) because it wasn't half baked, I really think that if Sonic Team cared more about consistency we wouldn't need a 90s Sonic revival by now, they really did this to themselves.

I want sonic adventure, sonic adventure 2, sonic heroes, shadow the hedgehog, and sonic riders on nintendo switch.

I'm pretty sure there's a mod that reverses the tracks for each phase so it's more like the modern games, where the "dark" theme comes first and then it changes to an arrangement of the main theme during the final phase.

Amy rose would know you are a fake since sonic is too shy to admit his feelings for her.

It's not zoomers, it's boomers that have an autistic obsession with mania and shit talk the adventure games.

The team sonic racing roster has 13 playable characters I like. I hate big the cat and omochao.

Sonic Adventure jankiness is its own charm at this point

here's your switch version, bro:
youtube.com/watch?v=CKYWUfAgX98

If you think there will be good dlc, then you are wrong. You'll be stuck with classic sonic, charmy bee, orbot and cubot.

I think anyone who buys an EA game, ever, is worse than any Sonic or Smash fag.

I don't really understand people who say the physics don't matter, the old games and mania's level design was literally made around them, that's why you have so many slopes, ramps, loops, etc. The whole beauty of getting good at 2D Sonic was studying the level design across multiple playthroughs and learning new ways to use those unique physics to your advantage. And the Adventure games do this too which is why I commend their ambition and would like to see them repolished for a modern decade.
Also let me tell you it is such a bitch making 2D game webms because it doesn't take much to stack up filesize.

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>tfw SA2 rails are still more fun than all boost shit

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Literally backwards. Sonic's worst is better than Mario's best.

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Good thing it has solo mode then

>tfw Forces isn't even bad
>tfw you like it
>tfw you still wish classic Sonic wasn't in it because his stages suck balls

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fpbp

If the Custom Character had played like Ratchet & Clank and Classic Sonic had Generations physics, MAYBE the game could've been good.

Give Colours a try. It's not as good as Generations but certainly a solid experience. Don't buy into the Sonic Forces hate either, it's a good game (outside of the weird and tacked-on classic Sonic levels).

I unlocked most of the playable characters on sonic riders zero gravity when I rented the game from blockbuster. I was missing scr hd and super sonic.

Classic Sonic's physics are actually better than Generations in a number of ways. The big problem is that they brought back the Sonic 1 speed cap for some reason, and Mania had just come out, so it felt even shittier in comparison.

I loved the first 5 ratchet and clank games. The original, going commando, up your arsenal, deadlocked, and size matters.

Fuck iron fortress from sonic forces.

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I've been shipping tails and Amy rose ever since sonic advance 3.

I will drown big the cat on sonic adventure and blow up omochao on sonic battle (the game boy advance fighting game).

t. IGN

I wish I could go back in time and buy myself sonic adventure on dreamcast when I was 8.

Suck my fucking nuts

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When will cream the rabbit matter in games besides Olympics and mobile phone games? I don't buy those.

I’m replaying the gc version.
It just has so much soul.

test

I don't know, but I want to write a letter to sega letting them know that team sonic racing does not have enough playable characters.

Commit self decimation you autistic fuck
Creams gonna be DLC calm down

I want cream the rabbit too. I haven't noticed her with a speaking role since sonic generations.

When you stop being a faggot.

So never.

>implying the game will get dlc

I like sonic adventure but big the cat needs to be optional, absent or non playable.

Daily reminder that Heroes is a good game and “hating” it does not make you a unique snowflake.

In an interview with SUMO Digital, when asked if they would add in characters post-release, one of the developers just said "Cream the Rabbit."

Just keep a save that has his story complete and load that after you are done with the rest of the characters.

Heroes is the most OK Sonic game, it's like the Sonic Colors of the pre-boost era.

I want a sonic harem with Amy rose, cream the rabbit, rouge the bat, Tikal, blaze the cat, wave the swallow, and sticks the badger.

MEOW?
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>Classic Sonic's physics are actually better than Generations in a number of ways.

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I like the playable characters except for big the cat and the omochao. I like zavok. Amy rose should have teamed up with storm the albatross and cream the rabbit. Team sonic and dark are a great tradition. I like team vector and team eggman. I will clone tails and knuckles to replace big the cat and omochao. I wish that was an option for story mode.

I want to play sonic heroes on nintendo switch.

If a sonic adventure remake comes to nintendo switch, I will buy more than one copy.

I think rolling is oddly automated in Forces, there's no way they could just get that "right" while everything else feels busted.
I think there was an image from classic death egg where one of the loops was just lined with invisible speed boosters in the actual modding tools.

If sonic mania is so damn good, why does my wal mart still have copies of the game left? I won't buy sonic mania.

People in you area, wherever that is, must not like the game very much.

Over 2 million copies sold babeeeh

It wouldn't surprise me considering some ramps in Casino Forest have invisible angled springs at the end of them.

Zavok is better than big the cat.

Sticks and that purple hedgehog were pretty cute.

I don't hate the designs for sonic the hedgehog, tails, knuckles, shadow the hedgehog, metal sonic, Doctor Eggman, and Amy rose.

Sonic Team is currently developing Project Sakura Wars for PS4, so don't expect a new mainline Sonic title until 2021 at earliest.

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I liked the stories of sonic heroes, sonic riders, sonic 06, and sonic lost world.

Nah, Sonic 4 and the Classic stages in Forces are much closer to that.

I know that they're mechanically bad and I don't really care.
I still have fun when I revisit them and thats all that matters to me.

Thanks for the painful reminder
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i will say that there are too many people who give nintendo games a free pass on obviously shit and poorly aged mechanics, but the main appeal of mario 64 (and most 3d mario games) is that the act of moving is fun. nintendo has really hammered down how to make a character feel so damn good in a 3d environment. if you think thats not enough to make a game interesting thats understandable, its why i dropped odyssey. mario felt like sex to move around but there was fuck all to do

I want chaos zero because sonic forces blue balled me.

That damn Arin Hanson is part of the reasons big the cat is wasting a playable character slot on team sonic racing.

Will it be censored? I hate censorship.

>he doesn't know

If you mean the story, gameplay or any meaningful content then possibly. SEGA is still retarded, Sonic or not.

If you mean muh pantsu then obviously, just watch hentai instead.

NiGHTS and gum(jet set radio) are better than omochao and big the cat.

Cube is better than Gum.

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I'll go watch hentai. We gotta fight to maintain our fanservice. When the ideologues and moral busy bodies get too much ground, we'll have nothing left.

samefag

I enjoyed Sonic Rush and Generations.

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boost killed 3d sonic for me, i really hope they ditch it and try going for i either more adventure like games or more open ended playground levels

I want reala(nights into dreams), amigo(samba de amigo), and billy hatcher(billy hatcher and the giant egg) to be dlc on team sonic racing.

I want them ported to Nintendo switch.

I like the Adventure games and I can't be stopped.

>classic Sonic has mostly bad handheld games
>modern sonic has mostly decent/good handheld games
Weird how things work out

>shitting on tyson hesse

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Sonic spinball on sega genesis was my first sonic game but I like dreamcast and modern sonic better than classic sonic.

Would it really be an adventure clone without cheesy buttrock though?

I want Mario to steal Amy rose.

Never, because they are good. SA1 has aged quite a bit but 2 holds up

>b-but

2's issues were apparent even back when it launched, but the consensus was rightfdully that it's a good game in spite of it's flaws. It's jank, to be sure, but not terribly so. SM64 has worse issues and it's hailed as one of the greatest games of all time.

Sunshine shits on 64. 64 has

>Worse movement physics and camera controls: camera is awful in 64, and mario is imprecise and takes way too long to go from a stop to a run, to turn, and in general feels too weighty and with too much traction; wheras Sunshine's movement is fluid, tight, and responsive, plus with a controllable camera.

>Sunshine has a consistent visual and thematic theme, which provides a greater sense of atmosphere and allows it's worlds to feel like real loications people live in and use, not just a generic video game level

>Sunshine's level design is more conductive to actual creative 3d platforming., with trees, objects, buildings, cliffs, and other goemetry spread all across it's worlds to allow for more player-discovered and created pathways throughout each map, wheras 64's worlds all have their platforming designed around linear pathways: Compare BIanco hills to bomb-omb battlefield: The latrer only has platforming along the path to and up the mountain, wheras bianco hills has a whole village, forest path, lake, and trapize lines around and outside of the main path to and up the windmill

>Sunshine has obviously better visuals, as well as a better soundtrack

when it comes to music check out the composers. Naofumi Hataya tends to deliver on the Mega Drive sound (did Ghost Town, among the other goodies in Forces) , and the tracks that don't quite cut it tend to be people who have never worked with the hardware.

I would too if they took the time to go back, polish it up, get rid of all the glitches and better the performance. There’s no saving the story but after that recent 06 demo mod or whatever it was, the game had potential.

I enjoyed Rush Adventure as well.

youtube.com/watch?v=WOziQq9etB4

The OSTs for both Rush and Rush Adventure were the absolute tits. I tried Rush on a DS emulator more than a decade ago and it literally made me buy a DS just to play it.

>Loading times cut down to mere seconds now
That alone is miraculous.

I remember having a really tough time trying to wrestle the camera to where I wanted it in SA2. Have there been any mood to fix it?

Source?
Does that mean the steam version no longer has it?
I was thinking about getting Mania, but the while malware thing always stopped me.

Rush gave Sonic boost2win-cancer, and in return we got Blaze. So 50-50.

Generations was great until SEGA decided Classic Sonic needs to be in everything.

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Pros: Nice, varied soundtrack
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Cons: It feels like there was virtually no beta testing
The story’s ambitious, but is butchered by Dreamcast models and bored VAs
Gameplay styles don’t have a centralised theme
It isn’t Sonic Mania reeee
Set a confusing bar for 3D Sonic (do we cram everything we can in without polish, or put out a burst of adrenaline on a game disc?)

No nostalgia bias (except guilty pleasure), I played a bit of it today.

>Sonic Adventure was absolute dogshi-

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Could you at least be generous enough to post the dreamcast version?

Isn't it unanimously agreed upon even among Adventure critics that at least a fair amount of Sonic stages are fun
If there's a base for what could be a good game, it's no wonder people want more. Unfortunately, Sonic Team's incompetence got in the way.