How fucking obsessed are game "journalists"?

How fucking obsessed are game "journalists"?

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but those fags aren't the creators of sonic

Sekiro outed them as hacks. Also,
>movie analogy

Yes because that looks just like sonic.

The creators hate the design though.

>comparing movies to videogames
What a pretentious faggot.

>new deisgn in vidya = an existing design being used in a movie
How the fuck did they graduate journalism school? The fuck they teach there? How to be a dumbass on twitter?

He's not entirely wrong tho
>grown people being mad about shitty movie made for kids

you are allowed to not like things. you can not like sekiro. you can not like the sonic movie. you can't try to use identity politics and talk about "oppressed" people to try to force a change to sekiro. similary, no one forced the sonic design to change.

If it was truly part of their creative vision then they wouldn't change it this easily.

Making fun of ≠ being mad
Are people not allowed to criticize when something looks like shit?

>the people mad about that sonic movie are undoubtedly the same people who hated my shitty article
i cant wew hard enough

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All """journalists""" must hang

>Fans extremely hate it because of teeth even though they had grown used to this Sonic already past some point, being the hypocritical kings of hating redesigns that they are even though they STILL got used to Sonic Boom Sonic eventually
>Yuji Naka hates it

>The actual creator of Sonic itself (not the game), Naoto Ohshima actually doesn't mind this Sonic because he loves all Sonic and he loves all Sonics because he loves different interpretations and he even drew movie Sonic, but got concerned over how autistic the Sonic fanbase has gotten over it

I really feel bad for him, I really do.

>made for kids
Is it? Do today's kids even know Sonic and/or Jim Carrey?

imagine being this mad

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>the difficulty of an original video game versus an unfaithful adaptation of a pre-existing video game character

These aren't even comparable

>implying anything was actually wrong about Sekiro's difficulty

Imagine sucking off journalists

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>a well trusted studio making an original IP under the head of the same guy who made a lot of other hits
>a hack hollywood studio trying to translate an IP from another country into their own with no clear understanding of the original
>comparable in any way

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Nobody forced them to do shit.
People were just memeing how awful the design is an the director decided to listen for a change.

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He's right, everyone needs to stop being a faggot and stick to their principles.

Better question is how fucking brain dead are them

Based Brian

the movie doesnt respect the creator's artistic vision

I mean he's right, the movie people destroyed the artistic vision made by Sonic's creator

Call them by their real name: propagandists.

What the fuck does an ugly-ass sonic that honestly looks terrifying have to do with him being shit at Sekiro?

Yeah, fuck freeze peach

(Formerly fucking)

>28 year old pop culture icon is the exact same thing as the difficulty as a 2019 video game

Hes just mad that he never got an easy mode. Hes allowed to not like Sekiro. Don't like something, then don't play it. The creator decides if they want to broaden their audience. People didn't like the sonic adaptation and expressed their feelings. No one forced the director to do anything. The director chose to redesign it himself to make all these salty sonic fans more likely to watch his movie.

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>Yeah, fuck propaganda
Fixed it for you

Except they changed the design completely loool

>wow this sonic design suck
>WAAAAAAAAH SEKIRO IS TOO HARD CHANGE IT CHANGE IT IT NEED TO CATTER TO EVERYONE YOU'RE INSULTING DISABLED PEOPLE BY NOT PUTTING AN EASY MODE AAAAAAAAAAAA

The difference between the two situation is obvious.

>artistic vision in a licensed, made by committee kids movie.
There isn't a single director who wanted to make a fucking Sonic film, get real. This isn't James Gunn Guardians of the Galaxy shit, it's on the level of a Madea film.

You can have free speech, but not freedom from consequences, journo

Freedom of the press isn’t freedom from consequences

nope, 9 yo niece doesn't know either sonic or jim carrey. Knows who tfue and ninja is though

>game is intended to be hard
>it is hard

>film is intended to be Sonic
>looks nothing like Sonic

Tyler Perry’s films are in essence community plays, this is far below that

>check out this literal who Twitter screencap bro!

Wow you are just so epic

Freeze peach includes hate speech. Freeze peach includes criticism.

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Those 2 subjects aren't even comparable for anyone who is able to stop 2 minutes to think about it before shitting from the mouth

The sonic model faced a large public backlash whereas most of the people who complained about the difficulty of Sekiro were told to shut the fuck up.

this whole thing is viral marketing. they only ever made that one trailer with that character model.

No one asked for design change since everyone wanted to see just how bad the movie could get

>Implying Sonic the Hedgehog has artistic intentions
these people literally have negative standards

How did they fuck up this bad?

3D models of Sonic already exist.

So they already have a baseline of how he is supposed to look like in 3D.

Do people want the design changed?
I thought people think both the trailer and concept are fucking garbage but the studio is trying to deflect all critique onto the design of sonic so they can say "please pay to see our shitty movie, we'll change it #4theplayers"

Holy based

unironically fuck frozen peaches

Tell us how they are different then?

John Carpenter is a big Sonic fan. That would have likely been an interesting film.

It's freedom from being murdered though.

>I know I'll gaslight the conversation into something that makes people I disagree with look stupid!

Game Journalists in 2019

Something something artistic vision.

>Tells right-wingers that their opinions have consequences (being fired, getting harassed, being banned from all social media)
>Right-wingers send “consequences” back (which aren’t even consequences, just insults)
>REEEEEEE WHAT ABOUT FREE SPEECH!

Well at least not everyone on twitter is sucking this guy's dick

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Game journalists are paid for clicks, the more outrageous and contrariant they can be (within what they are allowed to say as representatives of their site) the better for them.
It's essentially trolling as a profession.

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He would be right if its the same people saying it, but it probably isn't.

>Literally can't let go of the sekiro easy mode argument after getting blown the fuck out multiple times
Why do journalist always double down

Based Dimitri

they are indulging him by pretending he has a point. its as simple as no one forced anything. the director voluntarily made the change.

Imagine being such a fucking faggot that you didn't talk about video games on Yea Forums and instead focused on video game jounalism.

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I bet that subhuman failed aboriton is screeching at the top of his lungs when Japanese devs make sexy female characters.

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Dimitri is really cute bros, whats happening with the world

Learn to code, faggot

Of all the hills to die on, its this one?

imagine being (You)

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Does he not understand that the creator's artistic vision was original Sonic on the Genesis? Changing Sonic's design is the same as modding Sekiro to make it easier. You are taking something and altering it.

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he has a point. cope harder gaymers

>Game journalists still this booty blasted over Sekiro

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I wanna creampie that fat fuck's ass even more.

Movie doesn't respect creator of sanic's artistic vision.

Also shekels trumps everything

And sonic autists still think their shitty racing game will outsell the CTR remake lol

why is it that I have come across ample evidence of blacks and jews both being outstanding members of human civilization who don't deserve foul racism yet cannot come across a single scrap of evidence proving modern games journalists aren't subhumans who need to be gassed

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>looks like shit, won't watch
>LOL Whatabout that thing you implied previously? haha

you do realize every big new station in the world is owned by like 4 corporations right?

Even in japan people found the design trash.

What if the creator happens to be blind?

>OH WOOOOW SO NOW ITS SUDDENLY OKAY TO CRITISIZE THINGS

The difference here being that Sekiro easily sells millions of copies without pandering to journalists while this film is going to bomb

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>they graduate journalism school
>he thinks theres even a requirement

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Sekiro wasn't bad. That blue aborted cats hairball is. Get fucked Shitaku.

Even less kids know what the fuck a crash is. CTR is unironically more nostalgia dependent in terms of sales than Sonic is

>want to keep bad design
>want to change good design

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Imagine being so much of a cuck that you unironically seethe at the idea of personally having any freedom. I bet you think not allowing your wife to have sex with other men is sexist too

Mate, video games journalism is where people who couldn't graduate journalism course in community college go for a job. Because that's the only place with standards so low they'll hire anyone.

Even the shills who just repeat corporate messages in mainstream media have some standards.

How normal people complain: wow that sonic looks like shit I ain't watching this shit

How "journalists" complain: REEE THEY ARE LITERALLY COMMITING A VIOLENCE AGAINST THE DISABLED!!!! THIS IS OPPRESSION!!!!! NO IM NOT DISABLED BUT I STILL NEED AN EASY MODE!!!!! NAZIS!!!

What principles, that criticism is bad? No one was ever complaining that twitter autists couldn't criticize things, they just got shit on for having retarded opinions. The person in OPs pic can call other people who criticize sonic's design retarded too but he'll get shit on for by vast majority people for being blatantly wrong

Game journalists are truly terrible.

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not even that, 95% of all media is owned by those same 4 corporations

imagine saving gifs of people who are opposed to your ideology and then using them to defend your ideology.

contrarian faggot masquerading as a journalist has shit opinions. what a surprise.

but the movie design IS the terrible redesign

"""Game journalists""" aren't people

But changing the shitty movie design IS respecting the creator's artistic vision.

But journalists hate free speech.

>9.5 gameplay for Skyrim

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Modern """"""""""""""""journalism"""""""""""""""" is a joke.

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What minigames were even in DD?
I haven't played in a few years but I really can't think of any unless they count relationship as a minigame.

>his only argument is MUH WEREHOG AND GUNS
Good fucking lord

what an immensely stupid cunt lmao

no one asked them to change it, and certainly not due to political pressure. people just said it sucked and then they decided to change it.

Dimitri is CUTE! and I want to kiss him!

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The movie isn't respecting the original creator's vision.

>I AM SILLY HAHA
>PLEASE RETWEET LOL
twitter cap ban when

I weep for humanity.

>disrespect the original vision of sonic by making a fucking complete mockery of a live action version
>people get mad about this
>somehow this is hypocritical

journos are fucking retards

Stop posting twitter screencap threads. Stop participating in twitter screencap threads. This is only encouraging more tourists to migrate here. You are being part of the problem.

you absolutely CAN NOT use the word "spectrum" with reference to Sonic fans if you don't want to get a bunch of autism jokes in return

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You have no freedom from consequences
the constitution only protects you from the US government, remember?

They genuinely hate their field of work and specially their audience and will fale any chance they can to shit on both.

>so buttnuclearblasted that he defends the objectively unsettling Sonic design just to justify telling people they're morally reprehensible for not rallying behind the idea that games MUST be so easy that people who are literally dumber than pidgeons can play through them in an afternoon
I wish I was good enough at trolling to evoke this level of asspain.

Nobody forced them to do anything you bald twat. They saw feedback from actual fans, you bitches who couldn't get past the fucking ogre are not the fanbase of Sekiro.

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Tyler Perry movies are unironically based

DD is shit though? The DLC was the only good thing about it.

americans fucked every vidia an anime movie with their vision , second they arent the creator just a mere intermediary, and the fact that sonic team saw the trailer and I hate it tells you everything the creators think creatively, AMERICFANS STOP FUCKING EVERITHING YOU GET HANDS ON ABOUT MOVIES AND VIDYA , i dont know why japs sell their properties for peanuts to americans when the risk is more than the gain

Unironically based as fuck

I highly doubt you completed BBI

>Fans extremely hate it because of teeth even though they had grown used to this Sonic already past some point,
It wasn’t just fans though, everyone was memeing it.
Why are people making this a fanbase exclusive thing

>Sonic fans
>grown people

>audience and fans: Hey this nu-Sonic design is a bit weird
>creators: aight man we heard you. Let’s see what we can do to tweak it.
>journos: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP LISTENING TO THEM

I don’t understand their goal here.

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To show how immature they are?
The best part about this is that no one said they should have changed the design.

>developer patches game-breaking bug
>WOW I GUESS THE CREATOR'S ARTISTIC VISION DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE HUH TAKE THAT SEKIRO DEFENSE FORCE

I'll give them the pawn AI almost have to solo BBI with their tendency to run into Death's attacks every time he spawns. If we do ever get a DD2 I certainly hope the ally AI is vastly improved.

Everything else about that pic is fucking retarded though.

Their goal is to be the only voice in the industry. Fuck the fans, the only people who matter are the ones who won't disagree.

>blacks and jews both being outstanding members of human civilization

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Kid, I don't know. How obsessed are you to post twitter screenshots here? Gonna guess really fucking obsessed.

Their job is get clicks and transit to their website and videos, why wouldn't they make dumb statements that only serve to cause pointless arguments?
This guy in particular knows showbiz and hates Sonic games, he knows what he's doing.

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>a hard game that is hard being compared to a shitty cashgrab of a 90s video game character made by out of touch executives

>journofags STILL butthurt over Sekiro
God I love that game

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Oh hey it's almost like that was literally objectively proven during Gamergate and nobody can talk about it now because the """journalists""" painted their own narrative that blacklisted anyone who dared to disagree.
Good thing people listened to the retards screeching "JUST IGNORE IT BRO, JUST STOP TALKING ABOUT IT BRO, IT DOESN'T EFFECT YOU BRO, NOT VIDEOGAMES BRO," because as we can see that completely solved the problem and never came back to bite anyone in the ass.
I'm not even mad anymore, I'm just disappointed with people.

>Sonic fans are indicative of all gamers

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>the poster only playes därk söuls and pretendz to be a from teh old times.
yuck. that's ohnononono how can you recover. kys. etc. from me.

Are people still complaining about no easy mode in Sekiro? If it's that big of a deal then don't buy the game. And if you're a games journalist then maybe try not being bad at the thing that you're supposed to be an expert on.

user, are you having a stroke?

i guess respecting artistic vision only applies if the vision is ugly and repulsive, right trannies

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Who said people were forcing them to change the design? They're just not gonna watch the movie. That's not forcing, it's not like they're boycotting the entire company.

But they're too ugly for prostitution

This guy's almost as stupid as Trump.

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multiple ones coming to your anus. aaaw god that's sperm wasted like always

>if you're a games journalist then maybe try not being bad
user if they could git gud at even the simplest of things then they wouldn't be vidya journalists.

how did this brainlet even get a blue check. they really need to de-check a lot of these literal who retards.

>no one forced the sonic design to change.
This. This is the same shit that happened with ME3. People criticizing something for being shit doesn't mean they want you to change it. No one is asking for that. They just expected you to not be shit to begin with.

People are entitled to their artistic vision, and other people have the right to critique it. If you lack the integrity to stand by your own creation you have no one to blame but yourself.

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>herpaderp any kind of change is bad, except for the one I wanted.
Strawman so big you can see it from orbit.

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That'd be all fine and dandy if Sekiro's discussion in the media and the Sonic CG model were two things that were linked in any kind of principle, but they are not.

>you're as dumb as the billionaire president of the most powerful country on earth

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>implying

Its called brainwashing and every single gaming journo is attempting it

Sonic is a 20 years or something classic character, and the movie completely changed his design.

As opposed to Sekiro being a original game that was just released and never had an "easier version" before or anything.

This so much.
It's obvious

lol no

>Giving these retards attention

They feed off it. Don't engage.

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Just ignore it, bro.

also
>any analogies, dont use analogies goyim, take everything for face value. infact dont argue at all, just obey and consume

Anyone else know people like this irl? They’re pathetic liberal faggots but they wanna be cool and fit in with trendy internet culture so after they’re done ranting about being pro choice they immediately say some funny internet Yea Forums terms like based, etc.

This screams I NEED MY INSIDER ACCESS!!! I'M NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE THEM.

Legitimitely go fuck yoursellf with a rusty knife.
And you too. Fuck you. It has been proven time and time again that ignoring it just makes it worse you fucking faggot.

Who was mad about this movie? Everyone I talked to was having a great time roasting it.

I agree with him, you should respect the creators artistic vision.
Him and the hacks making the movie should follow his own advice since they didn't fucking create sonic.

This is the same energy as "Don't piss me off. I'm close to leveling and you look like *just* enough EXP."

>Sekiro isn't easy.
>Demand easy mode.
>People say that's not the point of the game.
>Scream and cry and shit your pants because you're a fucking toddler.
>Don't like the look of the Sonic movie.
>Oh, I'm just not going to see it.
>"Shit, we want you to see it."
>Change it.
>"S-S-S-SSSS-SEE! YOU'RE THE BAD GUY! YOU'RE THE BAD GUY! NOT ME! YOU!"
Yeah, literally the same thing.

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Pretty much this. The reason vidya journalism is such a shitshow is because it's made up of people who couldn't get into "real" journalism and want so fucking desperately to be there. That's why they constantly inject real world issues into shit where it doesn't belong.

They are ruining our hobby over their ridiculous desire to feel important and meaningful.

Nobody actually asked them to change Sonic’s design, people just said it was shitty and made fun of it so the filmmakers decided to change him themselves

FPBP

even when i was 10 or 12 years old i still was roasting stupid looking shit that would be the equivalent of this sonic movie design
it's not off limits from roasting just because it's meant for kids when even kids would make fun of how stupid it looks
miss me with that stupid sanctimonious pretentious "adult" lecture, bitchpants

Except game journalists literally live off getting as much attention as possible. For every autist screeching theres five people giving clicks just to see what the hubbub is all about

noone is forcing you too play Sekiro or watch that shit tier sonic movie the redditors who cried about sonic and "journalists" who whined about Sekiro being too hard are both cancer
LOOK GUYS WE DID IT REDDIT SONIC IS BASED NOW
that Director is genius he made the manchildren feel like they did something useful and they will now buy tickets to a shitty movie.

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No one forced them though

Its so fucking easy to strawman on twitter because you're just shouting words into the vaccum of the internet and people will eat that shit up, like and retweet because they assume it must be an accurate portrayl of events.

well i mean hes not wrong, sonic DOES have a fanbase that DOES get games reguarly, quality not withstanding. Crash has gotten one release in just about a decade

I don't remember anybody asking them to change the Sonic design. People made fun of it and they'll like "okay we took your criticism and we'll change it."

this captures it pretty well. the fact that a tweet so stupid that a solid argument can be presented against it as a shitpost managed to still create such a shitstorm is amazing.

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>theres five people giving clicks just to see what the hubbub is all about
No. People don't give a shit about looking up and following links, they just ask directly. If you were even remotely correct we wouldn't have two entire boards for people who can't use google.

Quick, everybody tweet this at the guy and see ifhe cries

>sonic
>artistic

You forgot the tire.

That's a red neck
Is that a maga hat?

>REEEEE CHANGE THIS GAME
vs
>"We are changing this movie due to feedback"
???

>sonic fans are on a broad spectrum
you can say that again

How the fuck did you manage to miss the point of some dumb journo's tweet?

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>changing game design is the same thing as changing character design

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Does the design really matter if the movie is still garbage?

Different is Sekiro didn't need any change, and journalists were just bitching because they're hacks who can't play videogames.

Sonic on the other hand just looks like shit and people are saying it like it is, not forcing them to change. They changed because they at least want to try, while gaming journalists would just call gamers entitled and bitch about fascists.

>people butcher character and it gets changed should be the same as me crying about difficulty

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I wasn't paying attention. What happened to Sekiro two months ago? Do they mean the easy mode thing?

Yes

Just because something has a broad audience doesn't mean it can't have products that cater to a specific part of that audience.

Might as well complain that his arms aren't blue

Yeah.

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Whatever you say user.

Hmmm this is not the original Sonic. They're not respecting the artistic vision.

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Fuck all of you. I was excited to see Sonic done in a way that was different from all the other Sonic shit, like a breath of fresh air. I hope they change it to something that's still different from the usual sonic and not the same usual boring design we've had for years

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I think that's a stupid comparison then. He is comparing game design to visual design.

herpaderp the only change I like is the one I agree with.
The strawman was big enough to see from orbit.

Of course it is

How fucking obsessed are you to hang on to the word of twitter literal whos whenever they said something you don't agree with?

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His point is that people shouldn't mess with what creators put out.
I don't even know if this guy is for an easy mode in Sekiro, all I found from him about the game was that he liked it. I didn't really spend much time searching though.
I think most people assume he's one of those journos asking for a Sekiro easy mode but he might be shitting on both people, the ones that want to change Sekiro and the ones that want to change Sonic's design

this but unironically goyim

>consuming any kind of Sonic material for that dumb hedgehog

What is wrong with you?

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Which is stupid. One is the original creators vision and the other is a redesign by a different artist.

>It doesn't count if I don't like it
It's a different design by a different artist.

Honestly I think this was done for easy publicity anyways.

sekiro is a fucking new ip they can do whatever they want, but sonic is a long running franchise with an established character. Creator artistic does not necessarily means they can butcher up the fucking blue ball.

>fpbp
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>It's a different design by a different artist.
So not the original artist.
Thanks for proving my point.

There is no vision in a committee made, soulless movie adaptation.

No, it doesn't count because it's not the same fucking artist you retard.

Unless the holder of the IP takes legal action against it, then yes, he is allowed to take artistic liberties and change sonic as much as he want.

Shut up talking soap

HE PUTS THE POO IN POOLE

How do people like this even exist?

There's a vast difference between a model looking visually disturbing and a game being too difficult for you to play.

Why do we even care about what "professional" video game reviewers think anyway?

>Fans say "lol this is retarded"
>Nobody writes screeching articles demanding change but the studio realises how bad the publicity is and decides to change it anyway
VERSUS:
>Fans enjoy the product
>Screeching 'journalists' write a shitload of articles for brownie points within their social circles about how ableist and bad the product is and try to get the devs to change it via that route
There's a difference.

based

>journalism
>free speech
haha o WOW

And we are allowed to criticize them without it being about the original artists vision, dumbass

imagine being SEETHING enough to make that picture LMAO

while I agree that games should have casual modes for retards, let's not pretend like these faggy "journos" aren't just trying to power through the game, write their stupid report, and get back to sipping their IPA's and making cow noises at each other.

fuck, if only we could stop Netfux from destroying anime adaptations now.

Post Traumatic Sekiro Disorder

>he thinks "gaming journalist" went anywhere after high school

and your other argument was wrong, dumbass

Just admit you got btfo user

fag

>complaining that a game isn't dumbed down is the same as complaining that a major part of a movie looks awful
God damn, games journalists are dumb.

Based

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Altano is a irritating asshole , he went to art school. So a pretentious asshole goes to a pretentious school and gets a pretentious job

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