ITT: Examples of "it's ok, when Japan does it"

Sleeping Dogs?

What a horrible opinion

no

Nice rebuttals. While Korea takes Jap shit like Old Boy and transforms it into pure kino Japan is too busy making absolutely garbage adaptations of Jojo and other shit with bargain bin budgets.

i bet you are scared of me bitch

>Yakuza is a movie gam-

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Why would I be scared of some faggot from Ohio?

Sports games are the unironic western equivalent of kusoge like Yakuza.

im from the eu and im strong, not like you :)

Example of "it gets better ten hours into the game"

>Arkham tier combat and retarded "press x to cutscene is ok when japan does it"
Ok

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why do you keep making these threads?
it just makes you easier to spot since you shitpost like this so often.

>Heat move
Those are fucking radical, but someone's gonna say it's a cut-

Look, see? I was beaten to it. What a faggot.

Funny since you literally just proved my point. Press X to cutscene is fine as long as it's retarded exaggerated jap shit.

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not making ape escape 4

What's wrong with press X to cutscene?

Completely fucks up the flow of gameplay. There's a reason DMC is absolutely shit in terms of a combat system. A good game forces you to interact and play with it's mechanics, a bad game gives you tools and then the only motivation it gives you is a letter on the screen.

That was never the point I agreed with. First of all, the fighting system behind the Yakuza games and your Arkham games are notably different. Instead of that weird system where you just lock onto enemies and zip to them whenever you hit a button and a direction isn't a thing in Yakuza. Yakuza actually requires you to land shit-

>There's a reason DMC is absolutely shit in terms of a combat system.
Nevermind, you're retarded

For starters, Yakuza has a better combat system than DMC.

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No? I've lots of people shit on yazkuza for its overly long dialogue and many cutscenes
Do you visit other websites besides Yea Forums?

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So does pretty much anything. Juggling enemies who just sit there and do nothing is worse than pretty much anything
Funny how DMCniggers can never actually defend their god awful combat design where you just juggle fuckers over and over with no real challenge from enemies who actually try to kill you.

>He thinks the game's challenge should be the enemies
The game's challenge is yourself and how you can improve your abilities in both juggling and crowd control. But you're a retard, so you don't get it.

>ubisoft reuses a map and modifies it to be barely recognisable
>FUCK WESTERN GAMES LAZY CUNTS
>yakuza reuses a map several times and barely changes it
>crickets.wav

>The games challenge is yourself
Then give me a single reason I should play DMC. Kinda hard seeing as Dante as a character is just a gook ripoff of TMNT characters.

>yakuza reuses a map several times and barely changes it
Things that aren't true.

>Mafia 2 dabs on every single Yakuza game

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To be rewarded with the satisfaction of actually learning the mechanics and being stylish.
Style isn't the gameplay feature, user, it's the reward for using the features. I only recently got into DMC and even I recognize that.
>Dante as a character is just a gook ripoff of TMNT characters
Probably the most retarded comparison I've ever read. It's the pizza right? You faggot memer.

>yakuza
>arkham tier combat
at least play the games before shitposting, you fucking nigger

Kamurocho.

Yakuza's map is more of a hubworld, not an actual map that you explore, dumbfuck

of course we now have shitpost threads about yakuza after the PC port. this happens everytime a game is ported to PC, you fuckers don't want to play video games, only beg for ports and shitpost

Yes, in actually learning mechanics to beat up retards. I feel really accomplished fighting enemies that just stand there and do nothing to even try to stop me. Hey I'm gonna beat up retards and pretend I'm a badass. Don't go to your bus stop tomorrow by the way.

>Oh boy i sure can't wait to go back to Kamurocho!
Granted there sometimes a second map like sotenbouri or the fishing town in 6 but you're lying to yourself if you don't think the majority of all these games take place in kamurocho for the 10th time

>Dante as a character is just a gook ripoff of TMNT characters

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DUDE PIZZA LMAO DUDE RADICAL AND CUHRAZYEEE

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No, we're finding out exclusive games are held up entirely by their exclusivity and now that they're reaching a wider playerbase people realise they're not so special.

Yep. Pic related took the hit this year.

Hey, not my fault you can't enjoy learning a game and getting better at it. By the way, the game DOES have higher difficulty levels, but you're never gonna try those because you're probably a pussy.

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>The game has higher difficulties
And the combat system is so boring that it doesn't matter.

Maybe you should git gud.

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most posts by you fuckers show clear as the sky none of you played the game, calling yakuza a "movie game" is one of them, so shut the fuck up and go play fortniteor whatever flavour of the month shit you play
>Yep. Pic related took the hit this year.
yeah, I noticed that too, a shame because the game is amazing

cope

oh, another faggot that doesn't play the games past the first 10min and only shitposts

Maybe you should make a system that actually incentivizes getting good pleb.

>b-but cinematic!!!

Having cinematic experience is not bad.
Having "shame of being video gamey" mental is bad

Yakuza is still trying to be video games.

>And the combat system is so boring that it doesn't matter.
Your complaint is that the enemies aren't a threat. A higher difficulty increases enemy move-sets and aggression. Shouldn't that do it?

Cool triangle press.

>Yakuza is still trying to be video games.
Could've fooled me.

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If the game doesn't provide a reason to learn and master its mechanics then it's a bad game.

>it's ok when Japan does it
>post a game highly criticized at release for its length, content and gameplay flaws

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-e, and a bad one at that.

>If the game doesn't provide a reason to learn and master its mechanics then it's a bad game.
Do I really have to spell it out for you? The reason is style. The reason to git gud is to look fucking rad doing it.

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I don't care about that and all those DMC combo videos are lame.

Goddamn Japanese games are so fucking bad

>I don't care about that and all those DMC combo videos are lame.
Then that's your fault. You lack the creativity and ambition. It's cool though. There's plenty of other action games out there.

>ur just not creative
If a problem can be solved with one step, only a moron would go out of their way and throw in 50 extra steps just to "look cool." That's not being creative.

>fighting enemies that just stand there and do nothing to even try to stop me
When will people stop this meme about DMC? Will they ever choose to try harder difficulties or will they just rely on youtubers combo videos as evidence for brain dead enemies?Combo videos are meant to show how skillful and dexterous with a controller the player is when controlling the character because if you ever played DMC without ever knowing about the mechanics and nuances, the game looks and feels super stiff (especially if you played games like Bayonetta, Ninja gaiden and MGR who have a more simpler and well known combat format controller and mechanic wise than DMC) until you began to slowly get better and watch combo videos that show just how tight and responsive the combat is which makes you want to get better at the game.DMC games were notoriously known for being hard and those who actually played the games on higher difficulties know they are, the combo autism being popular doesn't mean the game isn't hard nor does it correlate at all.

>they want every character to be likeable or absolutely hateable
I LIKE MY CHARACTERS AS MEH

>If a problem can be solved with one step, only a moron would go out of their way and throw in 50 extra steps just to "look cool." That's not being creative.
>Utilizing a wide move-set to kick an enemy's ass in the most stylish way possible isn't creative
Like I said, there's plenty of other action games. Shinobi on the PS2 might be more your speed. It only has a handful of attacks, so you don't have to worry about combos. It's pretty hard, too.

>only one enemy will attack you at a time so it doesn't matter if you're in a room with fifty enemies
>heat actions are just "press X for cool"
>loads of QTEs
>healing items are cheap and abundant so you can fill your inventory with healing and never care about damage just mindlessly mash buttons with no tension whatsoever
>even at bosses just spam healing because you make hundred thousands dollars while healing items cost ten bucks
>moviesimulator with more cutscenes than gameplay
>unironically (literally) has more cutscenes than The Last of Us
>unskippable dialogue where every conversation takes 5 mins
>backtrack across the tiny city ten times to mash through another 5 mins of conversation
>oh you got stopped by random reskinned thugs to waste more of your time
>no enemy variety outside of bosses, thugs all have the same moveset
>side missions are all >japanese humor
>minigames are 2000s era flash website garbage

Can someone seriously explain what's fun about Yakuza? It's not a good action game. It's not a good puzzle game. It's not a good open world game.
It's a VN disguised as a game.

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It's made in Japan.

It isn't being creative, and that's a fact. 90% of the moveset in DMC3 onward is redundant and pointless because nothing in the game requires it. It's basically giving you a Formula 1 racer to go a block down the street.

>Arkham Tier Combat
Those are combos he's doing with a finisher.
Did you even play the game?

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You know a moveset doesn't need to be useful or required for it to be creative right?

>Totally subjective opinion, and that's a fact.
user, what do you want from me? I gave you another action game you can enjoy. Do you need more?
Try God Hand
Try Ninja Gaiden
Try Bayonetta
What'll get you to stop bitching?

>Did you even play the game?
of course he didn't

Good thing that's not what we're talking about. DMC doesn't encourage creativity because it never presents scenarios or challenges that require it. You could label any game's combat as "creative" if you tried hard enough.

>A game has to tell you to be creative
What an NPC opinion.

>only one enemy will attack you at a time so it doesn't matter if you're in a room with fifty enemies
Not after you're a few hours in and enemies get tougher

>heat actions are just "press X for cool"
You actually have to earn them by not getting hit, and most of them are contextual

>loads of QTEs
You mean in the story? You probably get 3 or 4

>healing items are cheap and abundant so you can fill your inventory with healing and never care about damage just mindlessly mash buttons with no tension whatsoever
That shit doesn't work with bosses, since they do a shitton of damage and deplete all your heat bar. Good luck having those items last through a tough section!

>even at bosses just spam healing because you make hundred thousands dollars while healing items cost ten bucks
Nope. As above.

>moviesimulator with more cutscenes than gameplay
Some cutscenes are indeed long, but they amount to 1/10 of gameplay.

>unskippable dialogue where every conversation takes 5 mins
Everything is skippable.

>backtrack across the tiny city ten times to mash through another 5 mins of conversation
The side quests are optional, you don't have to do all of them.

>oh you got stopped by random reskinned thugs to waste more of your time
It's not a waste if you enjoy the combat

>no enemy variety outside of bosses, thugs all have the same moveset
Outside of bosses you have maybe 4 or 5 enemies depending on their fighting style. It's not a great variation but it forces you to focus on the most threatening ones first.

>side missions are all >japanese humor
Only some of them. It IS a Japanese game.

>minigames are 2000s era flash website garbage
The hostess bar is a fucking masterpiece and nothing you can say will change that.

>press square until your heat bar fills up then press triangle for your epic finisher cutscene

WOOOOOW THE PINNACLE OF SKILL

do you miss the point or are you just big retarded?

But I like the japanese humor.

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>DMC doesn't encourage creativity because it never presents scenarios or challenges that require it
So you want the game to tell you to be creative

>press square until your heat bar fills up then press triangle for your epic finisher cutscene.
Really proves you played the game. You probably just watched some webms anons posted and think it's all just pressing one button.

What is Tiger Drop and Heat Bar: the thread

I want it to require something on my part to complete it and do well.

Movie games have next to no gameplay like red dead redemption 2. Yakuza 0 is a good balance of gameplay and movie

But RDR2 has more gameplay than Yakuza.

>shitty imbalanced 2d fighting games every year
>shitty imbalanced 3d fighting games every year
>shitty everybody survived and ever happy after
>tentacle rape

>using the control stick to aim your gun isn't gameplay
>but pressing square to punch is

Well that's exactly what should be happening if you said it's easy and fill with brain dead enemies, you should be doing well.

>Make the main action of the game I like seem more complex by being verbose
>Undermine the game I don't like by oversimplifying the gameplay scheme
Classic nu-Yea Forums

There are massive amounts of gameplay between the 'movie' parts, so I can forgive it.

I want to fuck Majima and this is the prevailing reason why I've played six of these fucking games.

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>it's easy and fill with brain dead enemies
Yes, and that means it requires nothing on my part. It's like being given control of a massive construction company to build a child's treehouse.

It's obvious that people who call Yakuza a movie game have never played it. It's got some of the best melee combat out there.

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>>even at bosses just spam healing because you make hundred thousands dollars while healing items cost ten bucks
is the give to me that the poster only ever played 0, because the money thing is strictly limited to that game. You can't just potion spam in 1-6 on high difficulties because you don't make nearly as much money.

>that means it requires nothing on my part
so you don't press the buttons,move through the levels, beat the bosses?The game does all that for you?Doesn't sound like DMC to me

>capcom wants reboot
>fucking cockneys do design almost identacle to the original games
>reboot
?????

After the first few hours the gameplay got boring for me so I used a trainer to unlock everything because the story got me hooked but I didn't want to play. Overall the game was okay, about a 6/10.
Pirated it so I lost nothing. I'd rather Sega port Persona and SMT than more Yakuza.

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>reaction face
Mcfucking kill yerself

>I'd rather Sega port a movie than a movie
What did he mean by this?

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Mafia 2 doesn't have gameplay based around QTEs

this can't be real

I loved Shenmue. Would i love Yakuze?

>mafia2
>having anything

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>enemy's friends stand still while you attack
Truly the most best combat

Oh its real, sweetheart

You're right, it just has a ton of environmental details to make the game feel "realistic" because it's all it has going for it.

Yakuza 5 has 5 different maps, 7 if you count the prison and forest with Saejima

>no one counter attacks, everyone just stand there eating shit

So this is the power of japanese games combat.

Woah.

Ever since Yakuza came to PC we get shitty op bait threads. Same with Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls.

this, going from Zero to Kiwami and so on was a bit different because you didn't constantly have 100 million yen burning a hole in your pocket now

>shitty op bait threads

More like people outside your circlejerk actually played these games and called them out for being shit.

>a 100+ hour JRPG has a lot of cutscenes
Wow, who could've guessed

Except Yakuza is one of the most patrician series out there.

I'm 100% sure that if it was a western made game it would be called shit and movie game.

Shenmue is just cinematics, QTEs and walking from one conversation to the next, so yes

The fact that it's an RPG makes it even worse, since RPGs should never take agency away from the player and let them interact with all facets of the game.

It definitely would. I can't think of any western games that hit movie levels of MGS, FF, Yakuza, etc.

Here's your (You)

Funny thing is 0 is the best one in the series, and it's no better than a 7/10

Except sleeping dogs was praised.

Yakuza games are like those "30-in-1" game collections.

Thirty games, and none of them are actually good... but there's THIRTY of them! You just can't argue with that amount of content!

5 is the best.

I genuinely believe it's one guy spamming these threads and samefagging

I don't mind cutscenes as long as they have a worthwhile payoff. Yes, over the Yakuza games you have to sit through a LOT of storyline, but it's all worth it for the incredible ending to 6.
If 6 didn't have such an amazing ending, I would feel like a lot of that time was wasted. But every single cutscene felt worth it in the end.

This. The Youtube cutscene compilation is only 3 hours long, yet the entire 30-60 hour game feels like one giant cutscene. That's because so little of it actually matters. Most cutscenes are either filler or random fetch quests, neither of which have any importance on the core narrative. And they ain't fun either. The combat is such a jank fest, you'd think it was made in america.

Sleeping dogs doesn't have nearly as much exposition or cutscenes, nice try though

Literally the stronk womon archetype, complete with in-universe popularity among women, a DUKE admirer, unjustified assault on people on her side (but unlike Hector, she has a positive reputation and no one calls her a douchebag), as well as a support story with another character telling her she shouldn't change for society.
It's OK when Japan makes such a character.

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>128 replies
>47 posters
The math works out.

>people say what they dislike about the yakuza games while one guy replies over and over to insist it's all just one person "baiting"
wew
imagine this was your life

Yeah it has horrible cover shooting and fistfighting instead

at least it's actual gameplay

Yakuza has better gameplay.

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This. Fuck the liars in this thread making shit up and calling it "criticism"

This.

There is so much pointless dialogue in Yakuza. The actual cutscenes are fine. The mash X dialogue is not. Even if I read as fast as I can sometimes it takes 2+ minutes just to go to another sequence where I can actually play and aren't just dragged from location to location just to mash through conversations.

lol ok fag

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Make that two guys. The simple fact of the matter is that if you have serious problems with Yakuza games, the issue lies with your malformed brain.

I'm here to educate people, not debate or shitpost.

Yeah its OK because the twitter bitching barely ever reaches their shores, thank God for Japan

Holy shit, this can't be real.

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>brain so addled he thinks this is good gameplay
Try playing Tekken and see what actual skill intensive gameplay looks like.

Idiot, you're supposed to play on the hardest difficulty and limit how many healing items you bring into fights. And if any fight proves too difficult you just spam attacks until you win. That's how a real hardcore Yakuza player does it. Stop blaming the game for your own stupidity.

I don't remember ever seeing any ''hate'' threads and discussions for this game until it got released on PC. What a time to be alive.

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and faggots defend these shit games by telling everyone how amazing the side content is
boy I sure do love reading an irrelevant novel while character models stare at each other

Why do you keep pushing this meme? I can't believe it's more than one person with a vendetta. Yakuza games have tons of gameplay.

>Tons of unique mini-games
>Bad side content
Imagine being this much of a pleb.

Niggers love fighting games. Not very skill intensive if literal human nematodes can handle it and perform reasonably well

hnnnngh even as pixel art she makes my peenis weenis hard

You haven't been here very long then newfag

easier to capture in game footage and show others how shit the games actually are now I guess

PC gamers actually have standards.

It also literally has bamham combat, which you were accusing yakusa of having.
I guess bamham combat is ok now huh

It's quite alright. Not everyone is well-equipped mentally to handle anything other than point and shootys or button-punchies and kickies.

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Yakuza 6 has an hour long intro with no gameplay. An HOUR long intro. Name one western game that does that.
If a western game had an hour long intro it would go down as the biggest meme in Yea Forums history, but it happened in a "based" Yakuza game so apparently that's fine. Hopefully Yakuza 7 will have a 2 hour intro. Why not? It's not like Yakuza fans would ever dare criticize the series.

Nico is ugly and trashy as hell. DmC-tier design.

yakuza has bamham combat too, please don't delude yourself into think you're superior

>Name one western game that does that.

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Every single one of these points is just a lie, you clearly never played a yakuza game ever

Not even close to being a western design, and Japs have always designed better characters since they treat the game development process with respect compared to the mills in the West comprised of nothing but codelet pajeets, pablos, and dwights, and dropout art school students

He was making a joke, god of war doesn't have a 45 minute intro. And even if it did, what would that prove? That Yakuza 6 is more of a movie game than god of war?

Except Yakuza 6 has top notch gameplay.

please dont compare fluent and combo dependant bamham combat to yakuza where you punch an enemy 3 times until he falls to the ground then wait until he stands up only to punch him 3 times again

this
yakuza fans are deluding themselves

>Yea Forums hates Yakuza now
What went wrong?

New players got access to the series and realised Yea Forums had been praising the 1% of yakuza that's actually entertaining but had forgot to mention the 99% of the time you spend doing the same boring shit over and over

Yea Forums tricked me into buying this game. It's fucking bad. Don't fall for the shill.

I remember some faggots post that predicted that the threads would be like this from 2017
I wish I had a screenshot now

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Contrarianism and the ledditors who joined during the 2016 election

This.

>Yea Forums hates movie games with shit combat now
wtf bros?

Not this.

Maybe this.

Maybe it's because I'm autistic, but for me the appeal is having 100 hours to kill with each new game. I don't have much else going on outside of gaming and browsing Yea Forums to keep an eye out for posts I don't like, so 100 hour games are great for me. Western games never have this much content in them.

Yakuza 3 is shit, but I'm still going to buy the remaster so I can 100% it in slightly higher resolution. Anyone else here a total fucking retard like me?

Play esports. Look at how many people have 2000 hours sunk into Dota or LoL.
MMORPGs work too.

He's using the mad dog of shimano style and that retarded dashing around the place is what he does when you just button mash.

Now who didn't play the game?

Based.

Same.
Opening up the map, unlocking new moves, working my way to 100% completion... it's not always "fun" but there is a pleasure in the "chore" of Yakuza games.

That is an easy prediction though because he knew deep down the games were flawed
The only problem with Yakuza threads now is we can't discuss them at all because if one person says anything other than glowing praise Yakuzafags flood in to say SHUT IT DOWN WHAT HAPPENED TO Yea Forums BROS?? FUCKING PCFAGS FUCKING 0FAGS RRREEEEE

>it's not always "fun" but there is a pleasure in the "chore"
play gacha it's your dream game genre

Having not played Yakuza 3, what's bad about it?

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I don't agree with Mafia 2 but what you say about Jap writers is true.

Kiryu is a mary sue.

I think yakuza fans have a particularly bad time accepting the games have flaws because they have invested literally hundreds of hours into them.
It's much easier to accept a 4 hour game was shit than a series you put over 400 hours into. by then you're kinda stuck with it and defend it to the death because you know you'll be buying the next one and the next one forever and ever

>it's the same bait thread with that same guy samefagging constantly with the same replies he uses in previous threads
this is getting sad

This.

clicked through a bunch of lets plays and walkthrough videos and literally everywhere I clicked the characters were all just standing and looking at each other while the player reads text, what gives?

it's so obvious every time, too
same lies again and again
>the combat is bad!
>you just walk from conversation to conversation!
>there are QTEs!
>they reuse the same map all the time!
>the enemies just stand around waiting to be punched!
at least make up new lies

Have you ever played a video game before?

yes? and usually there's gameplay
this looks like a VN that sometimes has really underwhelming fights against the same enemies every time

Pirate Yakuza 0 and see what it's like for yourself. I didn't expect to like it myself but really enjoyed it in the end.

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was meant for

>looks like

>Yakuza
>Gameplay

>the enemies just stand around waiting to be punched!
>there are QTEs!

Facts are lies now? I mean

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Kek

Be honest: have you played a single Yakuza game?

Holy shit, and here i was getting annoyed with Viewtiful Joe little intro. I hope that at least you can skip it.

Well at least you aren't pretending otherwise