Bethesda

>Bethesda
>uses the same (yet improved) engine for five of its games
>”REEEE MAKE A NEW ENGINE, BUGTHESDA!”

>Rockstar
>uses the same (yet improved) engine for five of its games
>”thank rockstar for creating this mastahpiece!”

Why is the gamer hivemind like this, hmm?

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You're not fooling anyone, Todd.

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Maybe because Rockstar is highly polished while Bethesda is the opposite?

Fuck Rockstar and their boring ass game

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These are legit observations, user, unlike the pirated copies you steal from the hard-working people at Bethesda.
Maybe because they intend their games to NOT be heavily customizable and friendly to modders and that they focus on realism too much?
And they have to be polished, Taketwo’s CEO needs it for brownie points from his shareholding overlords so he can buy a third yacht.
You don’t see Todd flaunt with that wealth, do you?

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Rockstars engine doesnt have glaring faults that have been apparent since the 90s.

I haven't bought a single Rockstar game, but I do have Skyrim, Wolfenstein and DOOM in my library, Todd.

Yeah, if your engine sucks dick people will want you to change it. If it doesn't suck dick, people are okay with it.

>car speed increases with framerate, giving advantage to people with monster computers who set the graphics to the lowest levels
>embracing grieving by adding briefing tools with no rewards to you or the victims, unlike the nukes in FO76 giving you highly rewarding loot
>banning legit players instead of cheaters
>unless if it’s apologetic fanboys on twitter, they’ve literally admitted to not communicating with any of their consumers
Sure, Bethesda games aren’t perfect, but if they were, you would call them soulless and abandon them after a year.
Meanwhile, Rockstar sees its consumers as cows to be milked, nothing more. They don’t even respect their fans by modeling them in their upcoming games, or speak to them with feedbacks on social media about the quality of their games.

There’s a reason why Fallout 76 is successful now, while Red Dead Online is not.

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Not OP but Rockstar's engine sucked dick until GTA V, If you played GTA 3 or Vice City at 30+ FPS the game's physics would go to shit

Good, good, but you haven’t mentioned any Fallout.
Fallout 3 and 4 have tons of worthwhile content, and superb DLCs. Even FO76 is fun, and it’s only going up from there.
I’ll throw you a generous 50% off on the Switch edition of Skyrim if you add those to your library today, user.

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Where can someone buy t-shirts similar to the one in op?

But if the engine changes, the modding scene will be ruined, and you all praise Bethesda for having such easy-to-mod games to the point of creating custom maps for all the provinces in Tamriel in Beyond Skyrim.
Sounds to me that you’re just entitled and have no idea what you’re talking about, probably a freeloading pirate scum, too.

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Google the text on the shirt, it’s in the first result.

fuck mods

Because Yea Forums is filled with morons who have no idea what the game engine does but thinks it sounds smart to say.

That moddability you're talking about is not as nice as you think. Modders have to use weird-ass gimmicks and workarounds because of how everything is coded. For example you can't even add a new perk tree or a new weapon class with its own animations because fuck you. This is why the only spear mods out there work in 3rd person only cause they go through third party animations framework.

Shouldn’t have said that, you fun-hating user.

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Maybe its because the rockstar engine is good, and gamebryo is a fucking mess.
Just a guess shitstain.

Does anyone really believe mods are important at this point?

It's the only reason people play these games so what the fuck do you think?

Its not that the engine is bad.
Its because Bethesda are incompetent at using it. The fuckers recycle entire code blocks all the way back to Morrowind.
We upgraded the engine and altered the syntax, how did these bugs occur?

Not sure if serious.

Then I guess you want none of these, huh?
That’s fine. Shame that your ignorant pride will make you miss out on all the fun.

With a community like the Elder Scrolls? Obviously. There’s a reason why Skyrim is the most important game of modern gaming, and only contrarian degenerates think otherwise.

Have a little faith, user. TES VI will be such a versatile game you won’t stop playing it for 20 years because, unlike Rockstar, Bethesda will make sure the mechanics and graphics stay fresh for that long and not make you bored of it by the end of the game.

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Maybe if your engine wasn't a buggy piece of shit we wouldn't complain about it so much.

Kill yourself.

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Oblivion is still pretty with mods. Your engine is the best Todd!

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There are around 200k people still playing Skyrim.
I am willing to bet they are all playing modded games.
Skyrim sold around 28 million copies.
Tell me again how important mods are.

Because Steam isn’t the only place you could launch Skyrim on, you s’wit. And Skyrim isn’t the only Bethesda game they play.
Besides, games like The Witcher 3 and RDR2? Gamers play them once and never touch them again a year later, but with Skyrim? These casual gamers aways come back, and they still remember how fun the game is.

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Yes and the vast majority of players play unmodded games.
There is no observable metric that backs up your claim and a great deal that supports mine.
Mods aren't important at all.
Granted those that like them REALLY like them but they are a fraction of the audience.

You have nothing you retarded condescending prick.

Next you will say these numbers are made up

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>Modding will be ruined
Why do you make fo76 again ? To avoid modding ?

And you fired off the only weapon you had.
Throwing a hissy.
You damned sure couldn't bring any metric to support your argument.
There aren't any.

>Stop liking what im hating right nowww reeeeeee!

You are missing the part where bethesda games release broken every time.

Nexus download numbers say more about the autism of modders than anything else.
Skyrim sold around 13 14 million copies on PC.
There are mods that have been downloaded 40 million times.
It's an EPeen battle more than anything with that lot.

based on this inane comment you're one of the morons who have no idea what the game engine does but thinks it sounds smart to say.

The gamebyro engine is actually really good for what Bethesda is trying to do. However, everyone at Bethesda are talentless hacks who couldn't program a simple loop without a memory leak.

I unironically enjoyed vanilla skyrim a lot more than gta v and rdr2 desu

Rockstart give their fans what they want.

shut up fag retard u smelly poo poo

This kills the Bethesda apologist

Do you not know what Unique Download is?

A way to measure your Epeen?

>Morrowind
With mods, character customization consists of a Head and a Body
>Nude mods at most
>Oblivion
With mods, character customization consists of fully customizable head, upper body, lower body
Some sex mods and some fetishes loke tentacle rapes
>Skyrim
With mods, literally everything single vertices on your character’s face is controllable, every single part of the body can be changed, and sex mods are so diverse it caters to the most autistic faggots.

How are they not delivering again?

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>mods are not important
>many games have their roots in modding
>people got excited to see mods appear on consoles
>skyrim mods have millions of unique downloads on the nexus
>the steam workshop is very popular with most new games supporting it and having active communities

Mods are pretty important, I'm not sure where you got the idea modding doesn't matter. Did not mod games yourself?

The consoles keep track of how many times they are downloaded as well.
They are not nearly as grandiose as the nexus numbers.
Harder to fudge the numbers on console though.
I don't think Elinora is going to buy 100 Xboxes to pump up her numbers.
Trainwiz might.
DDDProductions definitely would.

>5 million people downloaded this mod
>about 25% of the people who bought skyrim modded it, and this accounts for all platforms, platforms that can't mod

Idiot

Bethesda would be fine if it fixed serious problems/glitches that have existed for a long time. People want a new engine because theres clearly something wrong with this one if these problems can't be fixed.

Rockstars engine isnt a horribly janky pile of horse shit....

>why is it okay when a good engine is reused but not when it's a shitty one?
How do you not forget to breathe in your sleep?

So because maybe 1% of total unique downloads might be fake because you feel like it might be, that means modding doesn't matter?

How about counter strike, DOTA (and by extention all ASSFAGGOTS), team fortress, and Gmod to name a few that all had their start as basic mods? Are those games not important?I don't think you even know what modding is.

All the money they have made can surely be enough to create a new engine and deliver the same modding capacity of Skyrim even if they need a few games to achieve parity

@460812965
>Bethesda
>uses the same (yet improved) engine
>yet improved
>improved

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Have you ever paid any attention to the modding community?
They are the most ego driven group of people I have ever see.
Bragging rights is the coin of the realm.

If you think it is 1% you are delusional.

Skyrim? More like dumbrim!

This

Todd is a good boy and a fine fellow. I'm glad to call him my friend. I hope he has a good day, The handsome, talented, generous man that he is!

Can't wait to see that lad at E3! I'm sure he's prepared a lovely presentation.

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Todd, your short. How tall will the ladder need to be so we can see you this year?

lol how?
Everyone’s complaining about griefing abs micro transactions in both RDO abs GTAO, and the former has no content whatsoever while the latter panders with griefing content.

The only thing Todd is short on is Dishonesty. Todd is a gentle giant in both stature and delivering quality content.

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loolll stfu popoo fat gfaggot tranny pee urself u fuckin retard LMAO ill fuckin reku so goddam hard u idiot nigger im fuckin ripped watch urself

Nigger. The recycled code use is documented,
now if you're so knowledgeable how game engines are supposed to work, please do enlighten us.
Oh that's right, you only know jack and his sister shit.

no they absolutely do fucking not. Holy fucking shit. Rockstar does whatever the fuck they want, and if the fans don't like it, it's complete silence. The only patches for GTAO are money exploit fixes, and they even take modders to court.

>They are not nearly as grandiose as the nexus numbers.
That's wrong though, a bunch of modders have talked about how desperate console modders are and how many more downloads they have on Xbox.

That was a different engine, a Criterion one I believe. RAGE has been in effect since GTA IV (or the table tennis game if you wanna get technical).

Well, can you instead enlighten what do you mean by "altered the syntax"? Retard.

If you see their documentar, the one made before GTA IV came out, they make their mentality clear:
They think that as long as they say nothing in social media or communities, they will minimize the chances of being in hot water, and they’d rather show their spite in subtle ways like modeling the Statue of Happiness in GTA IV to have Hillary Clinton’s face.

That being said, the only times they ever talk to the public is on twitter, and to their staunchest fanboys and fangirls. That’s literally the only people they’ll talk to and acknowledge, and any mention of butcher sell prices being halved because they want players to play meme PvP modes instead of grind-hunting animals will be ignored. This is why despite having highly profitable games, the Rockstar fanbase is ridiculously small and creatively inactive.

> Modders have talked about how important they are
Color me shocked.

You can look on the console itself and see the numbers. This isn't some secret sorcery. They are not all that impressive.

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Because morons think that engine=animations. Bethesda just needs to fire their completely talentless animators and it'll be fine.

>They are not all that impressive.
>Most poular nexus mod:
nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15
>Total DLs
>6,431,187
>most popular xbone mod
>bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/911793
>Downloads: 9,066,708
And I'm pretty sure Bethesda.net counts unique downloads vs total downloads

I’ve jumped from Skyrim straight to Fallout 4, and I do believe that Bethesda is improving in their animation.
Sadly, to make 3rd person walking more fluid, it isn’t as responsive as Skyrim because Nate//Nora have to turn around instead of the Dragonborn just instantly facing the direction he’s moving.

>Rockstar fanbase is ridiculously small
uhh

They should just implement this from now on:
youtube.com/watch?v=N5r324rCbp0

It is. Compared to the amount of fanart and discussion certain games have, the Bethesda fanbase is larger and much more creatively gifted than Rockstar’s.

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Not gonna click that, not on wifi.
Explain the video, please.

Well,rockstart produced 2 great games as gta5 and ddr2,while bethesda created a disappointing fallout4 and that dogshit of fallout76, now the fallout series is so ruined that even their creators (obsidian studio) can recognize it.

Are we talking about the same Rockstar??????

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user, it’s obvious everyone wanted flying bikes with explosive mini guns and ultra-accurate homing rockets AND counter-measures on it, otherwise they wouldn’t be calling it a broken OP vehicle and criticizing Rockstar for ruining the freemode even more.

Oh, and punishing you with five-figure insurance for dating to protect yourself by destroying the vehicles of griefers? Fans LOVE and wanted that.