Remember when Smash was about Nintendo

Dixie Kong

Characters that will make it in before any of those characters if DLC isn't focused on 3rd parties:
>Gen 8 Pokemon
>New Fire Emblem character

I see nobody's taken that "K. Rool is third party" bait, so I'll do it out of pity
>K. Rool
>Third party

This.
A game with Cloud, Mario, Solid Snake, Simon Belmont, Sonic, Ryu, Pac-Man and Mega Man is like every fucking kid in the 90s' dream come true.

he's fucking built for smash, but he's obscure

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Reminder that Snake and Sonic were supposed to be in Melee.

It's not bait if you actually read OP's post. Retard.

> Meowth
> Dixie
> Karate Joe
> Excitebike
Those really should have been in

And this is why no one likes first-party as DLC, it's most likely these shills instead of actual good ones.

Sure, but none of those are really DLC material. Maybe next game.

>shit
>shit
>shit
>shit
Try again

I just wish the characters they picked were more unique and creative.

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>Meowth
Just because Meowth is a recurring character in the anime doesn't mean he should be in Smash Bros as his own character.

K Rool has had less Nintendo exclusive games than Mega Man.
Furthermore, as it has been said, we are reaching the bottom of the barrel, ask for game characters people link with Nintendo and you will hear Simon before you hear Syrup or Fawful.
I know its impossible for a N64 kid to understand, having had the worst Nintendo console as their childhood console, but third parties are actually important to Nintendo and were among the best sellers, in the NES, the second best selling franchise was a third party one.

>F-Zero rep
>can't even be bothered to name one
>"deserves it" anyway, for no other reason than the same dozen or so people keep talking about F-Zero even though the series has been dead for 15 years and was never big to begin with

>K. Rool
>third party
>Waluigi
>BWD
unironically better choices than Joker and Bayonetta

I still want a few third parties, but only ones from long lasting series like Resident Evil. Res has been on every Nintendo home console since 64. It should be represented at this point. Personally, I wan Leon, but I'd take Jill too.

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It's less about shilling and more about Sakurai tending to look at recently released games when deciding characters. Nintendo really needs to start making more games of different franchises. What else is coming out besides Pokemon, Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem?

Imagine liking western games, lol, not even the people who makes those games like them, which is why so many western games and dev use self-deprecating jokes.

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seething no-taste faggot

There's nobody left outside of literal whos

They can't generate hype from 1st party characters anymore.

I know that your pic is grossly biased and therefor bait, but I'm going to bite anyway.

How fucking dare anyone compare Silent Hill to the Alice games.

>Just because Meowth is a recurring character in the anime doesn't mean he should be in Smash Bros as his own character.

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>user that can't read and thinks OP is calling K Rool a 3rd party also has incredibly shit taste
I'm not surprised.

Astral Chain

I bet you got mad at the new respawn star wars mc for being a white guy. You racist

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Pic related, yup.

Advance Wars is Nintendo?

But I still prefer Goemon, Joana "Perfect" Dark, Banjo, Crono over some extremely obscure 1st party.

Does anyone else want to snap Young Link's neck?
The Hero of Time is an annoying spammy bitch.

>"can't read"
>OP calls every character in the image 3rd party
>never says that K. Rool was the exception, only that he fits into smash
>WAAAAH I DON'T WANT PROMINENT NINTENDO CHARACTERS IN MY NINTENDO GAME

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Jigglypuff got in thanks to her being easy to implement by using Kirby as a base. That's pretty much the only reason she got in. On the other hand, Meowth doesn't have anything like that. There's no reason to pick Meowth over a current Gen Pokemon.

Nintendo hasn't had a new IP since.... uh.... i honestly forget. You can only go so far with the same IP for 5 games.

I just want them to focus on singleplayer stuff from now on and regular enemies.
Better way to get representation in, it's easier for them and it makes the game as a whole better.

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>OP calls every character in the image 3rd party
source?

Bandana Waddle Dee and Waluigi are not more prominent than Bayo and Joker. Bayo and Joker are protags. Waluigi and BWD are not.

>meowth?
the pokemon? literally WHY
>dixie
..why?...she is diddy but without the gun...and flying hair, pathetic choice.
>karate joe
guy in a minigame from game no one knows. good one
>excitebike
you only want him because they said they were going to add him but thought it was too complicated so they ditched him, fuck off.

and not a nintendo character either

You definitely can't read. OP literally said
>Remember when Smash was about Nintendo
>What went wrong? Why the fuck do they need all these third parties? K.Rool is the only one who fits in here.
What do you think that means, retard? Why do you think OP said that only K Rool fits? Hmmmm?

>PROMINENT
cope

If he didn't think K. Rool was third party then K. Rool wouldn't even be in the image. He could have put Simon in that slot.

Imagine, IMAGINE actually wanting to pay 5 dollars plus tax for a GOOMBA WITH A HAT

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>What went wrong? Why the fuck do they need all these third parties? K.Rool is the only one who fits in here.
>
>What went wrong? Why the fuck do they need all these third parties? K.Rool is the only one who fits in here.
>Why the fuck do they need all these third parties?
> all these third parties
>third parties
>THIRD PARTIES
>T H I R D P A R T I E S
>H
>I
>R
>D
>P
>A
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His entire point is that only K Rool is supposed to be in the image because he's a Nintendo character. That's why he fits. How retarded do you want to be to not understand this?

>all these third parties
>somehow means "these are all third parties"
learn english

You heard Reggie; Smash is the biggest crossover in gaming. Sorry buddy.

steaming

>K.Rool is the only one who fits in here.
way to miss this sentence lmao

Like it or not Labo is technically a new IP

>Bandana Waddle Dee and Waluigi are not more prominent than Bayo and Joker.
Strawman. I never said that.
>Bayo and Joker are protags. Waluigi and BWD are not.
Waluigi is prominent in Mario spin-offs and the only character of the Mario cast to not be put into Smash.
BWD is the fourth main character of the Kirby franchise, after Kirby, MK, and DDD, appearing and having a role in almost every Kirby game since SSU.
>"Why the fuck do they need all these third parties? K.Rool is the only one who fits in here."
>literally never calls K Rool a first party or not a third party
>easily could've chosen Simon instead of K Rool

>doshin
>captain syrup
>mach rider
>mike jones
>funky kong
so yeah, there's just that

>literally never calls K Rool a first party or not a third party
OP was complaining about non-Nintendo characters in Smash and says only K Rool fits. What the fuck do you think he's implying?

Smash Bros was about a kid playing with his toys and their battles being a projection of his imagination.
It makes the most sense that such a setting would have all sorts of popular characters across multiple series.

>Waluigi is prominent in Mario spin-offs
Not any more prominent than Mario himself, Luigi, Daisy, etc.
>only character of the Mario cast to not be put into Smash
Factually false.
>BWD is the fourth main character of the Kirby franchise, after Kirby, MK, and DDD, appearing and having a role in almost every Kirby game since SSU
Kirby is represented completely fine, just as well as Zelda.

>Ok, now this is epic

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Just because I didn't call you a retard in my last post doesn't mean I wasn't saying you are one. Read between the lines.

HE'S IN

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>wanting any of these characters over cool as fuck additions like Cloud, Bayonetta, Joker, Ryu, Mega Man, Pac-Man or Simon

>Kirby is represented completely fine
Brainlet detected.

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So if Hal decided they want to have eight main characters in Kirby, Smash is obligated to make all of them playable because they're "main characters"? Kirby, Dedede, and Meta Knight are several times more important to the series than Bandana Dee, him being the next in line means nothing if the cut off for the line is three characters.

It is.
>Main character
>Main rival
>most recurring antagonist

He's not wrong. I bet you think Zelda is poorly represented too.

i like third party reps in smash, i just listed the remaining nintendo character picks that are actually good

This
Kirby is not a goddamn 10 million seller that deserves a dozen reps
Nobody wants another case of shit emblem favoritism

Plant is good, at least it's first-party

All the Nintendo characters that matter are either already in or had their game release too late to make it in

>James Sunderland
>not returning to a corrupted silent Hill that has become a twisted reflection of his own mentally disturbed state

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This. It's like people thinking Dixie "deserves" a spot because she's the next most important after DK, Diddy, and K. Rool.
BWD is the Dixie Kong of Kirby in terms of importance.

Says some child that started with Return to Dream Land.

>and the only character of the Mario cast to not be put into Smash
Have you ever heard of fucking Toad

To say you wouldn’t want Pac-Man, mega man, or ryu in smash is to fucking lie.

Wait I'm retarded, I forgot dixie
But other than her everybody is there already.

but Toad is in

There's also Toadette, who has been getting more and more focus in recent games. Waluigi is nothing compared to those two.

>wanting more first-party characters
FUCK OFF
FIRSTPARTYFAGS ARE THE WORST

what's wrong with this
you have the 3 most important and recurring characters, I don't see the reason of adding more that really aren't as prominent

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cut everyone except Sonic, problem solved.

Any, just any of the F-zero characters

>There aren't any Nintendo characters left
Putting aside the fact that this is not true, so what? Some fighting games have kept the same characters for decades and no one is complaining. OP is right, half of the characters in Ultimate don't deserve to be here.

Midna and Wolf Link
Magolor
Bandana Dee
Girihiam

That he's a retard for calling K. Rool a third party. Why K Rool, anyway? Why not Mario, Link or Kirby?
>ad hominem
discarded
>Factually false.
Who else is left? Toad? He's already a part of Peach's and Daisy's moveset. Captain Toad is a better choice.
>Kirby is represented completely fine, just as well as Zelda
.
>"dude BWD isn't a protag"
>gets proven wrong
>moves goalpost

> All these people saying only important and popular characters get in
> When we have shitters like Palutena, Black Pit, Corrin, shillmons,
Fucking retards

Marx and Adeleine would be pretty cool

I'm glad people with this mindset don't work on Smash

He deserves it more than the fucking shillmon of greninja and inciniroar.

>Zelda
>Not poorly represented
Ganondorf being a Falcon clone will absolutely never be defensible from a representation standpoint.

>he's a retard for calling K. Rool a third party
>ad hominem
discarded

Toad is more deserving than Waluigi.
BWD isn't a protag, why would you want him when we could get an ENTIRE NEW SERIES represented instead.

>OMG I WANT FIRST PARTY CHARACTERS LIKE HAT GOOMBA

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>That he's a retard for calling K. Rool a third party.
And you'd be wrong. Because OP is clearly calling K Rool a Nintendo character.

Bayoneta is a major part of Nintendo consoles now, deal with it.

Literally a ton on Pokémon
Blaziken
Deoxys
Zerorara
Mimikyu
Eevee and it’s evolutions
Darkrai
Arceus
u get the point

>This shillmon deserves it more than shillmon Greninja and also Incineroar
Nah. I'd rather take the archetypes that Greninja and Incineroar fulfill rather than including Meowth who wouldn't even offer anything unique in terms of gameplay.

I want RAY-01 because Custom Robo was my favorite Gamecube game and I want to play as a cool robot that fires bombs and missiles everywhere.

I want any Rhythm Heaven rep (Asides from that faggot Tibby) because I think a character with rhythm-based specials could be fun to play as.

I want Wonder-Red because TW101 is easily my favorite game of all time, and I want to play as a Super Sentai style dude and I know Viewtiful Joe is never gonna be added.

I want Andy from Advance Wars in because it's probably the Nintendo series I've put the most time into besides Smash Bros and I can't for the life of me understand how Fire Emblem can have seven characters, three stages, 3 assist trophies, and like 30+ songs in the game yet a series Intelligent Systems made a year before Fire Emblem has jack shit other than a few spirits and a cut assist trophy.

>Why are there 7 characters that aren't NINTENDO?!?!!
So less than 10% of the cast is third party? Wow. You're a faggot.

>the hero the rival and the antagonist
Seems like some pretty fucking good representation to me friend. Bayoneta doesn't even have a Jeanne echo.

>BANDANA WADDLE DEE FOR SMASH!!!1

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Ganondorf is fine. He's even using a sword now, which is how he fights Link in most of his appearances. Let's not turn Ganondorf into a generic swordsman so that he'll be more game accurate.

Technically, yes. But can you represent it in Smash? Maybe as a stage, maybe as music. Maybe as Mii costumes. But I sincerely doubt as a fighter.

>ad hominem
>discarded
ok retard

>Medusa
Nope.

>F-Zero rep
Dead franchise.

Greninja was actually really popular though

Pokemon is already vastly overrepresented, literally kill yourself.

Pokemon and Mario will never be overrepresented

Greninja was picked way before XY was released. Sakurai made a good choice, since Sheik isn't too much of a ninja.

>1st party fags
>3rd party fags
dumbasses

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Who said anything about making him a full-on swordsman? Where's the magic? Where's the trident?

Ganondorf is in a rough position. He started as a Cap. Falcon clone, so they cannot modify he too much else his players will complain.
But I don't want Girahim, not another swordsman. I think Midna & Wolf Link would be great, with a golden wolf alternate costume, Midna using Majora's Mask, and their Final Smash is she turning real form and sending the enemy to the Twilight Realm through the Mirror.

No, they will be and they already are.

>Where's the magic? Where's the trident?
Fuck that. Where's the SOUL?

Spongebob is a 2nd party character?

>Who said anything about making him a full-on swordsman?
If he's going to be properly represented in Smash, he's going to need to be a swordsman. Ganondorf has been portrayed as a swordsman in more games than he has been portrayed as a magic user.

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Sonic, Bayonetta, Ryu, Megaman and Pac-Man all fit into the roster neatly

How the fuck is Zelda fine
There not even different clones literally just different versions of link
Zelda is literally their biggest franchise
Why do people think it deserves to be treated so shit

>she is diddy but without the gun

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>So if Hal decided they want to have eight main characters in Kirby, Smash is obligated to make all of them playable because they're "main characters"?
>Hypothetical that's never going to happen
>So if Nintendo decided they want to have 10 main characters in The Legend Of Zelda, Smash is obligated to make all of them playable because they're "main characters"?
Until the day HAL creates 8 main characters for Kirby, the "4th main character argument" still stands.
>gets called out on his fallacy
>"you d-d-did it too"
No, brainlet, there's a difference between ad hominem attack and ad hominem fallacy.
Captain Toad is more deserving than Toad and Toad's already in the game, as a part of a moveset. Waluigi should at least be apart of Wario's moveset.
>BWD isn't a protag, why would you want him when we could get an ENTIRE NEW SERIES represented instead.
Why don't you present an argument for why he isn't an MC? Instead of spewing the same shit ad nauseum.
Literally never says that.
>b-b-but: "K.Rool is the only one who fits in here."
Could simply be referring to how K Rool fits into the aesthetic of Smash Bros. But he never refers to him as a 1st party.

Fuck off Spongebob zoomer, go and cry over the death of your creator

Aaaaah homura-san, rekusu-san, gomenasai ur geemu was too late
Here, mii costume

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Smash has become a celebration of Video Game icons hosted by Nintendo

It’s going to become even bigger when Microsoft gets in with Banjo

People are upset smash gets stickied but it’s only really Snoy

>He aired just barely a year after Banjo
the state of retarded boomers lmao

>Literally never says that.
Read the OP again, brainlet. He's complaining about non-Nintendo characters and says K Rool is the only one in the pic that fits. How retarded do you have to be to think OP said K Rool was a third party?

Ganon and Ganondorf are the same person. He's used swords more in his Ganondorf form, sure, but overall he's made use of magic and the trident far more thanks to his appearances as Ganon, and there's no reason why all of the above shouldn't be represented in his moveset.

>Could simply be referring to how K Rool fits into the aesthetic of Smash Bros. But he never refers to him as a 1st party.
user he's clearly calling the guy a Nintendo character because he is, don't be retarded on purpose

All of these are on nintendo systems though?

Bayonetta is pretty much a nintendo character at this point since they are the only ones willing to fund the franchise

>He's used swords more in his Ganondorf form
There. Ganondorf is a sword user. Not Ganon. Ganon is Ganondorf's final smash.

I don’t mind legacy characters like Pac-Man, Megaman, Simon, or Ryu but Cloud and Joker piss me the fuck off. Neither of them are in any game from that franchise on any Nintendo console.

Why not use Mario, instead of K. Rool then?

It isn't treated like shit.
It gets new stages every game. It has more assist trophies than any other franchise. It has its three main characters represented as well as a one off character.
It has more representation than most other franchises.
>460737652
Bandana Waddle Dee isn't the protagonist of Kirby. He would not add anything particularly new to the series in terms of stages, music, spirits, etc. That's my point. Even if he's "a" main character, he isn't "the" main character. Should Star Fox get Krystal and Slippy as well because they're as important as Fox and Falco?

I guess he thought you would use your brain
Biiiiiiig mistake

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Who gives a fuck, user? Stop screeching about muh Nintendo puroty and just have fun.

OP's point would be the same regardless of which Nintendo character he used.

FFVII, Persona Q2, and P5S are on nintendo consoles.

Corrin is a good character.

Porky

They're more important than the rest of the first party characters in Nintendo's eyes, and you can't argue with Nintendo's vision.

Almost all the good Nintendo reps are in, it's fine this way.

>Comparing Pokemon to Kid Icarus or Fire Emblem characters
retard

>no counter argument
I never claimed he was THE protagonist, only that he was a protagonist. This has been proven time and time again since RTDL. Where's the counter argument?

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They're already overrepresented in the sense that they've both run out of essential characters to include and have started adding characters just for the sake of having more from those big franchises. Mario reps could have stopped being added in Brawl and the line up would have felt complete, but they've just kept it going and now we're at the point where side characters like Rosalina and generic mooks like Piranha Plant are getting in. If the series actually had more truly prominent characters left to include then I'd say go ahead, but they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel here. They have to draw the line somewhere.

I do have fun. I’ll have more fun when they trim these worthless characters from the roster.
>spin-offs
Oh wow it’s fucking nothing
>FF7
I forgot they finally did that. It’s still a PS original title and Cloud has no legacy with Nintendo.

Too bad most of the worthwhile first-party characters have been used up, leaving only really niche IPs, supporting casts, and whatever Pokemon are popular at the moment.

So should Krystal, Slippy, and Peppy get in? Because they're main characters of Star Fox.

>she is diddy but without the gun

She could be an interesting middle ground between DK and Diddy.

>can cargo carry people with hair, up-B is like DK's with maybe more vertical movement
>not a lightweight (Diddy) or heavyweight (DK) but somewhere inbetween
>tilts can be a bunch of tail whips
>dash attacks, A, etc. can remain similar to Diddy
>instead of a peanut gun she can spit gum that slows/tangles enemies, or strums an electric guitar to create a lingering AOE

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>actually wanting bandana waddle dee
I genuinely cannot tell if these people are serious or if this is some sort of trolling

>unironically thinking Smash adding CLOUD FUCKING STRIFE is a worthless addition
Legitimately a zoomer. Only zoomers wouldn't realize how fucking cool the Smash roster is with all of these different series coming together.

No one cares about ur meme characters

I'm fine with anybody getting in. I'm simply defending BWD because he's one of my most wanted characters.

>Though technically hasn't showed up on Nintendo systems, his series has in some way
>Was on KHCoM which was on GBA, and most known JRPG protag in the world
>Has a good bit of Sonic games on Nintendo systems, and was a rival to Mario
>Became a Nintendo character pretty much
>Started on Nintendo
>Started on Nintendo
>One of the most known characters in video games history
>Nintendo

>Sonic
>Bayonetta
>Ryu
>Mega Man
>Pac-Man
>don't deserve to be a Nintendo All Stars game
Retard
Waluigi and Bandana Waddle Dee

>It's a Pokémon so it's automatically important and popular
Love this one. When's Grumpig getting in?

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Fuck off Sakurai dicksuckers

Bayonetta is essentially first-party at this point.

>Bandannafags have been extinct for months

This happens every time
But I wont forget you shitposting fucks

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Reminder that the minecraft content in smash was debunked when Rathalos’s filename was literally “End Dragon” which caused people to think Enderdragon

There never was and there never will be Minecraft content in smash since the whole thing emerged and shitposted over content that never existed

Banjo is in

Diddy and DK were both popular in competitive Smash so I could see this working

>It’s going to become even bigger when Microsoft gets in with Banjo
Delusional.

>she
>her

It’s cool. It’s hype. But he doesn’t belong. I’m happy for you actual zoomers that cum over Cloud since he would never get such good treatment anywhere else but he doesn’t belong.

There would be the switch, so Octolings, Spring-man, Rex

You were warned dog

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You obviously weren't around for the N64/Playstation era when people thought FF would never come back to Nintendo and FFVII was the symbol of that. Now he's in Smash, because he's a video game icon

Yah because
>pichu
>jigglypuff
>greninja
>wrastlecat
Are just sooo important and loved
The Pokémon representation needs a huge makeover

>adding K Rool and not Simon or snake

>there are people who want Spring Man, Octolings (Inkling #2) and Rex over shit like Simon Belmont and Joker
I'll give you the rest, but Greninja is well-loved and popular.

Third parties are bad, but Banjo is the one who really deserves to be in, he's got a ton of Nintendo history compared to the others and saved the N64. Literally the only third party people won't complain over.

It's baffeling how a character like Cloud got in before him

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I was talking about the characters spergy
Having three versions of same character as half the reps for its not okay

I wholeheartedly agree. It's fucking dumb now. Back in Brawl, Sonic was a welcome addition and complimented the Sega vs Nintendo rivalry of old and Snake seemed like a mind-blowing, impossible reveal. Now it's become purely "what popular Japanese dev wants brand exposure".

TOO NEW RETARD

And FF never really did. Cloud is still the symbol of that. If they want to add Kefka or something I’d call it even but Cloud 100% does not belong in Smash. You cannot convince me otherwise.

I hate this so much, especially since P5 was only a year earlier.
And Monolith would have definitely allowed him to see the game in development, like he does with Pokemon.

I mean, it could just be Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf instead of the three Links and Sheik as well as them. I'll let you decide which is preferable.

>Rathalos’s filename was literally “End Dragon”
Source?

>A Pokemon that TPC actively advertises and gives special shit to in the games, anime and TCG
>Comparable to Grumpig
literal retard

Belmont is fine, but Joker can fuck right off.
Just like Cloud, they both don't belong in Smash.
Even if Cloud got retroactively justified by porting FFVII

It should definitely stick to iconic characters like Pac man and MegaMan, but shit like Bayonetta and Joker and Cloud are way too out there

>It gets pushed by TPCi and Game Freak so it's important and popular

Joker shits all over that "argument"

Skull Kid, Geno, Isaac, Ray Mk II, Wonder Red, Black Knight, Black Shadow/Samurai Goroh, Buzzswole

3rd Party
Shadow, Akuma, Zero, Alucard, Chrono, Sephiroth, Travis Touchdown, Ryu Hayabusa, Master Chief, Banjo

Plenty of options. But outside of these characters no one else needs to be added.

Getting pushed by TPCi and GameFreak makes them a whole lot more important than a ton of other Nintendo characters. And then they end up becoming popular due to the push. Why can't you accept the truth?

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based

This so much. Otherwise might aswell add sans undertale because muh switch port

Real talk, Smash should have ended after Brawl, despite the flaws, it was the last Smash game where Sakurai and his team really put effort into the game. It got the best newcomers of any game as every character has a meaning to their series and no one is there to fluff up the roster size, with an Animal Crossing rep, it would have been perfect. Not to mention all the new game modes, adventure mode, stage builder and what not.

Talk shit about Brawl all you want, but they clearly put a ton of effort into it and it payed off at the end, the hype for it was huge with the DOJO reveals and whatnot.

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>It got the best newcomers of any game as every character has a meaning to their series and no one is there to fluff up the roster size
Zero Suit Samus

Smash outgrew Sakurai. The problem is: Where to go from here? Nothing can be more awesome than "everyone is here".

>everyone is here

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Toon Link
Also the only good part of Subspace were the cutscenes and even then they weren't good and barely showed off the characters' personalities.

> Shitting on Toon Link

Brawl was the last one that had it's own identity, Smash 4 and Ultimate felt, dare I say, SOULLESS compared to 64-Brawl.

Melee is the epitome of soulless, though. The trophies are nice but all of the characters and menus look weird as shit.

yes, i'd be curious to see if this is legit. it's most likely bait, but eh

you're another faggot seething about new smash games having characters you don't like, and whatnot

t. sexist

Also added to showcase some emotion to Samus, Ridley couldn't fit the Wii hardware, so he was no-go

>sexist
>>/r/eddit

I just want Waluigi and Bandanna Dee...
If the Wah gets in I’m gonna try to go professional (at least at locals). I love the thought of pissing people off as I style on them as fucking Waluigi, my favorite Mario character.

> OLD BAD
> NEW GOOD
Fuck off Smash idiot

you'll piss people off with your autism and your shitstink before you do any of that

In this case, yes.
Brawl was legitimately unfun. Ultimate is not.

Splatoon.

>Added to showcase some emotion to Samus
Yet ZSS is less expressive than regular Samus is

I had fun mortar sliding with snake

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it also feels really limp wristed to play, punches have no impact and it feels like you are gently nudging characters instead.

Zoomer scum

>If the Wah
go back

bandanna dee is gay kill yourselves

anybody who actually wishes it stayed nintendo only is a contrarian wet blanket, these characters are infinitely better than nintendo d-listers

t. zoomer

I loved Brawl when it came out.
Now I can understand SSE sucked and was the only reason anyone liked it.

As an ex-Nintendo fan, I like the 3rd parties better and they are picked because of financial reasons.

bandana waddle dee and even banjo are infinitely more zoomer choices than belmonts, who were the only thing I wanted.

>some people would actually prefer to pay for fucking bandana waddle dee
this is pathetic...

they already bought the season pass anyway

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Toon link and Link play very different,

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bandanna waddle dee is never getting in

Good.

based

>fuck this shit, give us some first-party characters
Pic-related cause multiple meltdowns across the internet. You Smash-fags just don't know what you want.

THERE IS LITTERALY NOBODY LEFT RETARD! LOOK AT THIS SHIT

> Dead Bear
> G*no
> Issuck
> Hat Goomba
> Meme skeleton
> Slut Genie
> Badly designed JRPG protagonist
> Owl who got cucked by Baracat
> Tranny Diddy
> Gayman
> Disney twink
Nobody will buy these shitty characters, even the third party characters many want are shit picks.

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>FF never really did
user, i have some news for you...

It did give me Wario so that was a definite plus.

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Quick question. Who is left that is first party but not some obscure one shot or D-list simi reoccurring character that's even half as interesting as Mega Man or Pac-Man or even Joker?
If you can't think of anybody then you should maybe shut up. Because guess what all of the important first party Nintendo are there and you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
>fuck this shit, give us some first-party characters.
Hope you enjoy F.E/Pokemon Character number (I lost count) then because that's what you're getting because in my personal opinion the reason why FE and Pokemon get so many characters is because of the fact that they can shit out a new game with new characters almost every year.
And that because it's most likely hard to make new instantly iconic first party characters. Think about it Splatoon was the first new first party Nintendo ip since 2006 with Pikmin and it was a hit Splatoon 1 sold 4.94 million copies for the sake of comparison ARMS sold 2.1 million copies. If you asked me I'd think that Spring Man could have gotten in if it wasn't for the timing of ARMS. It okay that you want first parties just try and understand that their isn't really a whole lot left for character options that people will get excited for because Smash is a crossover fighting game and what carries a crossover is it's characters. Pic unrelated

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>pikachu?
>the pokemon? literally WHY
This is how you sound even if it is a dumb suggestion

based and waftpilled

What is the next DLC character is Robotnik

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Captain N aka Captain Nintendo.

>they actually thought Spencer was the ideal character to return
dumbasses lmao

yeah spring man is the only first party character I can think of that isn't some meme shit pick the smash community circlejerks over.

Fuck off retard, shit like Palutena and Corrin aren't deserving other characters like Dixie Kong, fucking idiot

Stop sucking Sakurai's dick and face the truth, spewing shit like DUH D-LIST I AM SILLY won't help you with anything, you are ignorant, go play more games and actually know about the history of certain characters before you dismiss them, you bastard.

Literally any Zelda rep that's not smaller Link. It's one of Nintendo's top selling franchises. How does it only have 4 unique characters?

Well I mean Sonic fits considering he is Mario's rival when it came to the whole vidya shit.

spencer was mad popular in the FGC. Half of the people at my locals had one on their team and Combofiend himself was famous for his. It's a function thing.

who do you want, then, retard

Dixie Kong is not DLC-worthy
>GIVE US 5.99 FOR DIDDY AND A WIG

Because every series isn't owed a certain amount of characters and new franchises are infinitely more interesting than Impa or Tingle.

>Dixie
>Deserving to be in the game at all
At least Palutena was important in her most recent game and Corrin was the main character.

Post your reactions to each 3rd party character

>Snake
WTF

>Sonic
Saw it coming

>Mega Man
FUCK YES

>Pac-Man
Saw it coming due to Namco working on it.

>Ryu
Neat I guess

>Cloud
Why?

>Bayonetta
Seriously though. Fucking why?

>Belmonts
THE N TEAM IS BACK TOGETHER

>Ken
FUCK YES THE GRINCH LEAK IS- oh.

>Joker
Indifferent

Dixie was the main character in DKC3

>t. retarded Secondary
You realize there are plenty of characters to pull from than Merchant and dyke Shiek, right?

Custom Robo could have been fun.

Dixie is WAY more popular and iconic than those you fucking retard, nobody gave a fuck about Palutena before Uprising, that's how shit she is.

>Unga Bunga! Fuck Whitey
The post

New franchises are more interesting than Skull Kid, Epona, a BotW champion, Kass, Tetra, or whoever else, then.

>third party characters were always my favorites and they turn more heads than first parties
>the one Nintendo character I wanted (Ridley) is in
Feels good, I can only hope the pass will be nothing but guest characters. I'll even take boring ones like Erdrick over a shill pick.

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>too young to know shit about MGS
>very surprised
>happy
>same
>leak ruined it for me
>complete shock
>meh and sadness to know k. rool wasn't the """"winner"""
>see ryu
>see ryu
>eh

People paid for the onions Ness in Smash 4. People will pay for characters like Gex if they got in.

Meowth will never be in

Sorry stevey

Astral Chain

What are his chances?

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Lucas was a veteran and cost less than the newcomers.

Fire Emblem 3 Houses

>Paying for cut content
wow, it's like people will pay for anything, retard.

>grinchfag
lmaoing at your autistic life

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And she got dropped hard from the series after her game. Hell, she even got a replacement in the 64 game. Maybe if Dixie was able to maintain her importance in DK then she would deserve to be in. But as it stands, she only deserves to be a Diddy Echo Fighter.

rent free

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>who else could Nintendo put?!?

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>comparing Dixie to something you deem as bad
Good argument.

Costume for sword fighter Mii.

>Fuck off retard, shit like Palutena and Corrin aren't deserving other characters like Dixie Kong, fucking idiot
When in the fuck did I say Palutena and Corrin are deserving if anything they prove my point that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. If any I said the opposite.
>Hope you enjoy F.E/Pokemon Character number (I lost count) then because that's what you're getting because in my personal opinion the reason why FE and Pokemon get so many characters is because of the fact that they can shit out a new game with new characters almost every year.

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I know this is bait, but how many generic whities do we even have in smash?

>Snake
I'm a zoomer who didn't know who he was. Now that I'm a MGS fan, I'm fucking elated he's back.
>Sonic
I freaked the fuck out. Unlocking him at the end of subspace was 10/10.
>Mega Man
Never a mega man fan, but I was pretty excited. His reveal trailer was great.
>Pac-Man
"About time"
>Ryu
Cool.
>Cloud
Blew my mind, this used to be a playground delusion.
>Bayonetta
Meh, pretty cool.
>Belmonts
Neat, and Richter was such a random pick.
>Ken
Meh, I like him better than Ryu I guess.
>Joker
Sweet.

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Not DLC-worthy.

>implying I'm a KANTOOOOOfag

>Mach Rider
>Lip
>Andy
>Sukapon
Based choices.

> We could have had Star Man instead of shitty Baracat
SAKURAIIIIIIIIIII

>implying some obscure literal who Nintendo character would sell as well as any third party character
They're trying to sell DLC, family.

Rosterfags are mentally ill secondaries

Oh yeah forgot about splatoon.
>1 new character
WOW SMASH IS SAVED GUYS

glad Sakurai made the right choice

ARMS and Astral Chain are also things.

Furfag

Most of those don't have any potential simply because they don't have any moves to draw from (and yes, before some smart arse points it out, I know that Captain Falcon has an original moveset for Smash, but my point still stands).

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Based

M A R I N A

Oh Nintendo still has quite the chunk of characters worth adding to Smash like Hades from Kid Icarus who is one of Nintendo's better villains with his own flair.

Hmm does anyone else get the impression that Sakurai and Nintendo refuse to fully maximize their first party character reps because they want to milk Smash with "justification" for future sequel games? After all in theory if Smash reaches a point where every worthwhile first party character has made it onto the series, then there is nowhere else to go. So that's why Nintendo and Sakurai took their long sweeeet time to add K Rool and Ridley.

That's the reason honestly, they have to keep these characters in different games, so they can garner more fans over the years, and when they get in, more people are willing to buy it because they want the character they supported.

That's the best way you can more money, and I can't blame Sakurai for doing this method.

>and I can't blame Sakurai for doing this method.

No kidding, it's literally extended his use to benefit Nintendo while also securing his job for a very long time. No wonder Paper Mario will never get added. Much less characters like Dimentio or Fawful. But knowing Nintendo they'll make Starlow playable before any of them.

Do you people even play Smash or do you just make a hundred threads a day crying about it instead?

There is like over ten blond haired people.
Why do japs always make them blond?

For white male adult protags? Snake, Simon, Richter, C Falcon, Cloud, Link, Fire Emblem shitters (besides Corrin who might be Japanese coded maybe), Little Mac, Shulk. I think that's all, Ken is a hapa, Red is Japanese and a kid, Ness/Lucas are kids, rest of cast are cartoony, non white, women, kids or animals.

Now the difference in that is it wont another fucking sword swinging lord.
You'd get like a jester god or some shit instead, but nooooooo its tOtAly tHe sAmE.

> Little Mac
> White

HURRDURRR
NO ODER ZELDA CHARACTERS EXIST
HURR DURR
SHUT UP FAGGOT

Hurr durrr this actually means x
And has nothing to do with Banjoke but that means he is in an way
God shut up u annoying faggott

CARS!!!

cope

esl kun, hang yourself

It's a miracle the ballot happened and we got K. Rool. It's depressing Dixie still isn't even in. She really deserves it.

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>wanting these D list tier characters over Solid Snake, Mega Man, Cloud Strife and Simon Belmont
Good job proving why OP is wrong, no one is gonna get hyped for Starfy or Muddy Mole getting into Smash over Cloud or Ryu or some shit.

>Putting aside the fact that this is not true
It is true, nobody fucking cares about your literal who Nintendo character from 20+ years ago, and even if they did, they'd get an assist trophy at most.
>Some fighting games have kept the same characters for decades and no one is complaining.
While making original characters on top of the pre-existing roster, which Smash doesn't do, dipshit. These things don't apply to Smash, and you're retarded if you think they do outside of 'hey, all the characters are returning' or 'these characters from prior games are returning.' You have fucking 70+ characters, you're mad that 7-8 of them are third party, and agreeing that fucking MEGAMAN AND PACMAN don't belong in Smash. Fuck off, you dumb fucking faggot, nobody likes you Nintendies.

I fucking hate seeing Pac Man and Megaman I’m here. It should’ve been issac and Waluigi. I’ve been waiting since Mario Power Tennis

Fuck you retard, kill yourself

I bet you are this samefag over here

No u
Shut up gaylord

>from 20+ years ago
There is a plethora of recent franchises that perfectly represent Nintendo that deserve to be in Smash, but obviously, a normalfag likes you who has to resort to "Muh literal who" meme because he only knows Mario and Zelda wouldn't know. Stay mad, cuckold.

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>..why?...she is diddy but without the gun...and flying hair, pathetic choice.

She plays nothing like Diddy in DKC2, and she has a gun in Tropical Freeze...

How can one user be so wrong?

Stop posting your retarded fan poll everywhere

DK at least got other games waifufag, and she appeared in those as a playable character. She was even brought back years before K. Rool did. You're absolutely delusional if you think Paluntena has done more of an impact than Dixie Kong.

>Cloud actually looks normal when Square doesn't do the render.
Amazing, it's it?

Banjo is getting in

>DK at least got other games waifufag
DK has other games. Not Dixie.
>calling other people waifufags when you want to fuck a monkey

Keep dreaming.

>don't want nintendo only
>so you must be a zoomer even though they push literal whos like bandana waddle dee and whatever the fuck xenoblade characters
eh

>Custom Robo
>Ray
my niggas

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“UNOIFFICAL”
>Hurr durr he is in guyise
U banjokes are something else
>make bunch fan polls just to purposely but autism bear in first
>post it 100 times like it means anything
>he’s in because I said So OKAYY
God your pathetic

Third Parties??

in MY BING BING??!?!?!?!??!

Posting this 100 times isn’t going to make this true
Get a life

It really is.

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You're literally only mad because your pick isn't in

>unofficial
I don’t care about some “poll” you made in photoshop faggot
>hurr durr ur just mad XD
not at all ur just annoying

Why are you hating on Banjo then? It's agreed that he's a likely candidate to be in, as well as having a huge fanbase

Only faggot zoomers are against him

What are our chances Wrightbros?
Will Leon cuck us or we will prevail?
A Capcom rep is almost a sure bet

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>It's agreed that he's a likely candidate to be in
lol

Joker is on the 3DS in persona Q2

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Dude, he’s an obvious troll. Stop taking the bait

>What went wrong?
You did.

>replying seriously to esl kun
user...

>obvious troll
his points are solid and it's retarded to think Banjo has a chance

Obvious bait, but I’ll bite
>cocka poopoopeepee
>solid point

it's a pretty solid point when you consider his opposition

75% chance, boyo.

>Down B guitar that's Jigglypuff's sing, but it's actually damaging.
>Like DK's old final smash, it gets a bigger AoE if you time it right.
>You get 3 windmill strums that are progressively larger and hit harder, but she's vulnerable between each one

Meowth was robbed of his Smash 64 spot and subsequently fucking buried alive

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Yes. Basically everything before OoT has nothing.

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>Meowth
>Ever considered at all for Smash 64
he was always meant to be a hazard lmao

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I DON'T WANT ICKY THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS I WANT ONLY NINTENDO FIRST PARTY CHARACTERS

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You can tell me what I believe is wrong but I'll still believe it

>Spring-Man
>Paper Mario
>Mach Rider
>Karate Joe or Chorus Kids
>Andy (Advance Wars)
>Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)
>Dillon
>Balloon Fighter
>Chibi-Robo
>Rex & Pyra/Mythra
>Excitebiker
>Captain Rainbow
>Marx
>Porky
>Dixie Kong
>Hades
>Black Shadow
>Captain Syrup
>some of the really obscure bottom of the barrel characters like Takamaru, Sukapon, Starfy and others
>Captain N if Nintendo really wanted to be courageous

Nintendo still has more then plenty of viable characters that they own that deserve a spot in Smash in their own right, they obviously just want more third party reps in because they want to attract more popularity.

Oh ok, that counts.

Keep stroking your dick to the Muddly Mole spirit you loser, meanwhile I get to play Snake in Smash.

don't forget people pushign black shadow for the "no more ganon clone" meme

smashfags/rosterfags are retards

smash was about DREAM MATCHES asshole faggot who wasnt born in 1985

I just wish they had more skin options like Aleph/Olimar and Bowser Jr/Koopa Kids. They're way easier to implement and they make the character roster seem way larger.

kill yourself my man

>not wanting obscure, out of nowhere chad picks over safe and popular characters guaranteed for onions boy virgin approval.

Faggot.

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Ashley was fucking robbed by Richter. We could’ve had just Simon but no, we have to suck Sony’s dick

desu they should focus less on character and more on gameplay and stages for once

stage builder is more hype than joker
that being said all I would care about is BDee, Paper Mario and Wonder Red

>BDee
Stopped right there

Fucking this, I always felt Smash was lacking in the alternate costume department despite it being absolutely ripe and oozing with the most possibility.

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Because you guys are annoying and act like your so important and can do no wrong
Also no he isn’t likely at all just because some autists act like turbo faggots doesn’t mean anything
Also hahhaha no all proof I have seen of this fan base is fake made up “polls” and honestly that explains a lot

nigga they gave us plant and joker lol we literally have not had a hype character since august

BASED BASED BASED I WANT A THIRD PARTY REP INSTEAD OF SOMETHING ON FAMILT LIKE MY COUNTRY FOR EVERYONE

where the fuck are my mgs1 snake/pliskin alts

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>implying that means anything when the DLC is TOATALLLY amazing shit like Plant and Joker
haha pleeease nigger

What's worse is that even PS All Stars had more costume variety with their own set of colors for every character.

Not an argument anymore

i wish Raiden was in Smash

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I want more obscure and retro reps, they tend to be fun to use and I'm not sure why Ultimate opted out of another retro newcomer.

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Same. I love obscure/retro picks. I unironically want more shit like Mach Rider and Sukapon to be playable.

Only first party characters I want that aren't in yet are Giygas and Sceptile. Other than that I couldn't give less of a damn about (((Nigtendo))).

Face it (((Nigtendo))) is a shitty has-been company and the majority of their characters are far inferior to those of Capcom, Squaresoft, and damn near every other company in the industry. So stop bitching about it you goddamn nerd! Stinky (((Nigtendo))) niggers like you are the cancer of this fanbase and should be culled from the gene pool.

>b-but Smash is a Nintendo game!
Smash is the only thing keeping any (((Nigtendo))) franchise other than Pokemon relevant now. Let's fix that and cuck these shitty characters on their own company's console, as they deserve to be cucked.

BWD is actually more like the Kiddy or Cranky. The fourth wheel that doesn't really need to be playable in Smash.

Dixie, on the other hand, is one of the main characters of the classic DKC games. She's mainly been underutilized after the Rareware buyout. The japs running Nintendo don't think much of her. Retro knows, though.

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Dixie is not as popular since she doesn't bring an obvious new archetype to the table so she easily comes off as cloney even though she doesn't play like diddy in game

Then who the fuck do you relecancy rulefags want?

At least no one is disagreeing about Skull Kid. I hope to see him in the next game.

Travis Touchdown from NMH

>Confusion and excitement.
>Autistic excitement.
>Excited but thought SSF2 Mega Man was better.
>Felt nothing
>Massive excitement
>Surprised but not very excited
>Confusion
>Huge excitement
>Indifference
>Indifference

It is but only character wise. It has everything else going for it other than that

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>Snake
Oh cool
>WTF
thought it was retarded but whatever
>Sonic
HOLY FUCKING SHIT BEST DOJI UPDATE EVER
>Mega Man
Cool
>Pac-Man
HAHA NIGGERS I TOLD YOU SO
>Ryu
Don't care
>Cloud
Don't care
>Bayo
finally some exciting DLC
>Belmonts
cool trailer
>Ken
expected but echoes are lame so didn't care
>Joker
incapable of even pretending to care

>The japs running Nintendo don't think much of her.
Bombette is seen as more important than Dixie Kong. That indifference to Rare's DKC is still lingering, even if it's not as profound as it used to be.

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This
Hell if someone like Kratos gets into Smash this place will be completely sideways

Nigga Cloud is so ridiculously big it’s insane

user... I

Cloud's reveal wasn't anything special given the game he debuted in. Smash Four was that anti-hype.

He brings nothing new to the Smash universe

in your head

Not him but
>FF7
>not big

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The worst of times are when lawyers have to force their biggest smiles.

>"quality" 1st parties like Isabelle and Incineroar
Would rather a cool 3rd party rep rather than bottom of the barrel shitters

What level of bait is this?

>hey can this iconic villian have his own moveset instead of being a clone of a character that doesn't fight anything like him?
>"fucking rosterfag"

damn right, it is rosterfagging if you want another character solely to 'declone' another, rather than wanting a character for the sake of being a great character in the game