Series has many strong wymen

Okay, so explain to me what exactly is "forced" and examples of that

It's not a fine line. It's very easy to tell if something is done in good faith. The only people that think it's a 'fine line' are people that lack basic analysis skills.

A character who is physically strong isn't a "strong character".

because the characters fit the setting/plot coherently and aren't shoved in for the sake of making a point

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Because no one gives a fuck about Souls lore

It's almost as if people aren't actually mad that women and minorities simply exist and the reason for their outrage over certain games is deeper than surface level

This is now a Soulsborne webm thread since OP is retarded

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dont be stupid its not like they've been staple characters in beloved games since for fucking ever

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>any game with women in it should be considered sjw

keep lurking

When it derails or interferes with the characters or plot development or warps around them. For example, when a character blindsides you with arbitrary belief systems or political leanings. To give you an example, when a JRPG defaults to the "we can win with the power of friendship" shit, you're getting a shit sandwich forced down your throat.

Man those archers pissed me off. Not as much as the Anor Londo ones, but damn they got annoying at times. Especially combined with those faggy wizards. It's like damn dude I'm trying to fight here, wait your fucking turn.

Because that's not how it works, ResetEra. Having strong women doesn't make something SJW, as there are plenty of series with strong female leads

Is the it a female character
or
Is it a character whos only/major defining characteristic is that they are female

When it derails or interferes with the characters or plot development or warps around them. For example, when a character blindsides you with arbitrary belief systems or political leanings. To give you an example that's not based around inclusion, think of this: when a JRPG defaults to the "we can win with the power of friendship" shit and gives a big monologue, you're getting a moral shit sandwich forced down your throat.

Naughty Dog characters don't do that, but you guys still complain lol.

all great female characters front that they're strong but are actually quite weak.

prove me wrong.

yeah it was totally believable when one black girl beat the shit out of two dudes at once especially after seeing nate shit all over hundreds of guys bigger than him for hours

Literally
>western bad
>japanese good

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The naughty dog characters are fine.

see

the majority of women in Dark Souls fall into traditional gender roles of nurturing and being obedient and docile, especially in the case of Firekeepers, what the fuck are you on about

yeah it was totally believable when big boss beat the shit out of an elite male agent like snake

>literal inventor of CQC wins at CQC
>not believable

also its the boss not big boss you mongoloid you dont even know what youre talking about

Nadine is a super trained mercenary, 1 in 1,000,000, so it's justified too.

nigger you dont have any idea how much harder it is to fight 2 people at once do you

>strong women are considered SJW
fuck off strong female characters have always been loved, but those are hated by the SJW for being too pretty or feminine.

>Appeal to Realism in Naughty Dog.
Drake is basically magic. You need a better argument then that when you're talking about videogames.

its not realism faggot it's consistency. nate beats up literally thousands of dudes including incredibly well trained ones and barely breaks a sweat and then out of nowhere gets his ass beat.

that's one shitty bait son

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>strong wymen
What are even talking about? The women are just normal women.

"This lady has G-cups and wears a bikini but she also swings around a 60-pound sword to kill demons with even though she has no musculature" is not empowering, weeb.

YEARS LATER THEY ARE STILL S E E T H I N G ABOUT THE BLACK LADY IN THE VIDEOGAME.

I can't help it if women are too stupid to find that empowering. What do I have to turn on the TV for them too?

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It's not even remotely believable my man. A fucking low-ranked male fighter getting into the ring with the female world champion is going to demolish her—a scenario that happens when tranny fighters actively handicapping themselves with HRT are doing literally today.

It's not empowering because it is a character designed for a male consumer.

Now, if the big-titted lady in question also had a scene where she told a man wolf-whistling at her to not do that, or did something else that is considered politically incorrect and is not tolerated by the average male consumer, that would be empowering because it would be a female character that is not entirely defined by the rules set by men. She would be more of a person.

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They establish that Nadine is not to be fucked with. You don't play as Nadine at any point or establish her ability. Should every protagonist in every story win every fight because it's more consistent?

O B S E S S E D

The game was years ago. She won. Perhaps Drake was really tired after fighting, shooting and running like a supersoldier for hours beforehand, right?

Are you some sort of can't-read brain retard? I was fine with Nadine winning. The whole point of my post was to shoot down the other guy trying to say Boss beating Snake was believable.

seething tranny

have sex

destiny has strong women out the wazoo,nobody cares

>Fact that game has lore makes it forced
ok retard

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>There’s a very fine line between existing and being forced
Yes, and that line is whether or not it fits your narrative.

Like these idiots. Its not "forced" because there's no "agenda" its all about whether or not you personally like the piece of media and decide it fits within your narrative.

If you like it, its not forced and there's no agenda, if its popular and normies love it, there's an agenda and its forced. Like Captain Marvel in Endgame. She's in the movie for all of 10 minutes, ultimately does nothing but blow up a spaceship, the men still do everything of consequence, but REEEEEEE FORCED AGENDA SJWS REEEEEE

I fuck slag like crazy. I'm a fucking beast for slampigs

The forcing is when the narrative and character warp around arbitrary morality issues that aren't in service to the narrative.

I presume you have some examples, then?

Because that absolutely doesn't apply to the example I provided.

So it's empowering if her acts and her words contradict each other?

got some more vocabulary words you wanna throw in there to make it look like you know what you're talking about?

Well you clearly don't if your posts in this thread are any indication.

Sure. The death of Witchking in LOTR trilogy comes to mind.
The warping part of the Captain Marvel narrative happens a great deal in her own movie, where Carol's whole underlying motivation and raison de etre is "show those mean ol' men that said she couldn't do it and stand up!"
I'm an author and none of that was hard to understand.

nice try but that was my first post in the thread motherfucker. anything you don't like is "forced" diversity, you don't even follow your own arbitrary rules for what that even means

because gender literally makes no difference, instead of being every characters' sole reason to exist

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it turns out shitty writing is always shitty writing.