Why do areas looks so similar to each other? Did they run out of budget?
Why is it so boring? Spamming R1 over and over again isn't particularly fun.
Why does quality of the game drops so hard after you go through Forbidden woods? Did they not learn anything after DaS1?
Why did they waste time on garbage chalice dungeons instead of improving areas in the main game? Why can't I warp from lanterns? Why do I have to go back to Hunter's Dream to level up and upgrade my weapons instead of doing that from lanterns? Why is Yharnam mob rehashed so much?
Why is Bloodborne so overrated?
Why do areas looks so similar to each other? Did they run out of budget?
>Why is Bloodborne so overrated?
people were desperate to justify their purchase of a ps4
SEEEEEETHING
>Spamming R1 over and over again isn't particularly fun.
stop pretending you played the game
spam R1 is best tactics, but you have L1,R1,L2,R2 for different actions
You said it yourself. Spamming r1 works best so what's the point of all other attacks?
fpbp, also nobody played it so they can get away with spreading lies of how incredible it is.
The look is cohesive of a theme. It's not the Witcher where it's "here's the snow area, and here's a desert area, and here's the jungle area" to knock points off of your area checklist.
All combat in all games is boring if you want to be argumentative/minimizing.
The Forbidden Woods 'quality drop' is a myth. The change isn't on-par with something like Dark Souls 1 where a third of the game is fucked, it just so happens that the best areas are in the beginning, but Loft is actually a superb level to end the game on.
The areas of the game are best-in-series. The chalice dungeons were sort of fucked but sort of neat at the same time.
The villager complaint is legit. There are so many creature designs in the game, you have to wonder why they bothered with a single mob after that. Once you get to Rom, all villagers should be replaced. The warping and leveling from lanterns are legit too, but they're autistic nitpicks.
The game is an improvement over all the other games in almost every way.
A better question would be, why does this forum exist? Imagine opening up a new page and typing that shit up, and thinking you're having a productive day.
"I need more varied and colorful areas" is perhaps the most low IQ attack on Bloodborne in existence.
spamming r1 actually isn't what's best though retards. spamming l1 is higher dps for most weapons.
Why can't BBfags take criticism?
BUT ITS JUST DARK AND GREY
DARK SOULS 3 IS SO MUCH MORE COLORFUL!
ofcourse i am. never have i regretted a purchase more
>WAAAAAHHHH I SPAME R1 AND GAME IS BORING WAAAAAHHH
b-but user you have different attacks...
you can have fun using different shit
>WAAAHHH MUH DMG NUMBERS WAAAAHHH NO FUN LE BIT
>ITS JUST DARK AND GREY
It is though?
The chalice dungeons are awesome once you get past the story ones and start making your own ultra-hard randomly-generated ones to cautiously explore with cooperators. People call it "spelunking" and there is nothing quite like it in any other game
This. You're a retard, OP
>The chalice dungeons are awesome
this is the biggest meme
1 new boss at the end and nothing more....
>ultra-hard randomly-generated
1hit = dead
yeah le hard xDDd
so you dont undertand what is going on in the game?
Because it's a literal 10/10 masterpiece, one of the best games made in this century and there's no refuting that. It's objective fact
>be the best game ever.
>refined color palette that is vivid and errie.
>beautiful cohesive areas.
>simple but satisfying combat that can appease the masses with braindead mashing or go into trick-loop cancel shit for autists.
>best enemy design ever in gaming.
>superb music.
>interesting and cohesive narrative that wraps itself up in a nice package by the end of the DLC.
>enough fashion for your average person aside from Dark Souls 2 autists.
>excellent bosses aside from a few stinkers.
>excellent levels quality overall where even the "bad levels" are still good.
>have to suffer low-IQ attacks from plebs almost 6 years later.
you're retarded, if a game doesn't encourage the use of your options in a smooth way (any fighting game, DMC, mario 64, any good game) then what you have is a product that the developers did not care about
This post is about Witcher 3 by the way. BB sucks
>10/10
>not even one boss without oldhunters is hard
its great game but nothing more
Delusions
I bought PS4 just for BB and i would buy it once again, this game is GotGeneration
>that last point
Kek. You know my pain
Based
BB is a solid 7/10. 8/10 with dlc. Both haters and cocksuckers of the game are retarded.
You are actively handicapping yourself. L1 spam for most weapons is usually top DPS.
The developers made the L1 transform attacks typically more unwieldly at a cost of making them do more damage, but if players opt to "play retarded" and just mash R1, then that's fine. you can literally do the same thing in DMC (mash light attack) and be perfectly successful crushing the game, because it never requires you to fill a style meter or a long combo to progress.
name one 10/10 game from this decade that have better bosses.
>if a game doesn't encourage the use of your options in a smooth way
but it does, its not a big diffrence in dmg user
you can fight with cool things and have fun or spam R1 and crying game is shit
fucking kek
Witcher 3
fuck your casualshit movie game
Sekiro or even Nioh
name one 9/10 game from this decade.
witcher 3
Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, Dark Souls 1
?
Nioh has worse bosses and it's a 7/10 game.
Sekiro's are up in the air: they're better from a technical point of view, but the bosses are uninteresting themselves with shit music and design. I guess it's what you value from your bosses.
Cucker 3 is exactly opposite
witcher 3 bosses are god awful
sekiro have great bosses but thats about it, everything else from lore to world/art design is pretty meh.
nioh bosses die in 10 secound when you use your weapon art.
yea whatever, you've never done it, at least not coop in a random unknown dungeon. You are always saving eachothers lives and leading eachother around exploring unknown depths. And it's 2-3 hits to die usually, if you are leveled properly.
What's that smell? The sweet cooooope. Ohh it sings to me. It's enough to make a man sick!
>bosses are uninteresting themselves with shit music and design
Better than BB "bosses"
Literal shit taste mongs belong to reddit and resetera not Yea Forums
>Nioh has worse bosses
>
>but the bosses are uninteresting themselves with shit music and design
>muh lore
ok fuck off with your shit taste
enjoy your meme oversized bosses in BB who cant do shit uder their own legs fucking kek
I genuinely believe that Bloodborne is the worst game From have made since DeS. No idea why it's held in such high regard.
6 years soon.
in less than a year, it will be announced game of the century. What a run BB has had, still mining salt to this day.
that's a joke boss though. He's meant to trick the player into thinking they're done with the area when there is really another true boss behind them
>everything else from lore to world/art design is pretty meh.
Much better then le victorian england with le ebin lovecraft totally oc donutsteel
literally the same boss, you stupid faggot
cope for what? nobody remembers your From rehash kek
6/10 combat
7/10 openworld questmark design
8/10 art style
9/10 branching story
8/10 at best.
Sekiro is literally better than BB in every single way.
>if I reply to everyone who I disagree with I win xD
Cope
>Why do areas looks so similar to each other?
They don't
>Did they run out of budget?
No
>Why is it so boring? Spamming R1 over and over again isn't particularly fun.
Then don't spam R1.
>Why does quality of the game drops so hard after you go through Forbidden woods? Did they not learn anything after DaS1?
It doesn't.
>Why did they waste time on garbage chalice dungeons instead of improving areas in the main game?
Can't improve perfection.
>Why can't I warp from lanterns?
Legit complaint
>Why do I have to go back to Hunter's Dream to level up and upgrade my weapons instead of doing that from lanterns?
Because Bloodborne actually has a hub area unlike Dark Souls 1.
>Why is Yharnam mob rehashed so much?
Because Yharnamites live in Yharnam.
>Why is Bloodborne so overrated?
Because you'll never play it.
Nioh has shitty bosses that die in 5 seconds, have like 3 moves, and no phases.
Sekiro bosses are all "muh samurai sword guy lol" and boring as fuck, boring music, etc. Literally only ape was cool, the rest was the most generic Ghosts of Tsushima-tier shit imaginable. Fuck off with your shit taste, Mr. Simon Says.
>it's shit on purpose
Just like the entire game right? Lol
@460695701
>people still make threads on Yea Forums about it calling it a masterpiece 6 years after it came out
try harder
>Still discussed and gets frequent threads that reach the limit 4 years down the line
>"forgotten"
Lmfao, shitcherfag cope.
kek
Better gameplay, literally worse in every other way.
>NUH-UH!
Snoyfag "argument", ladies and gentlemen.
And Bloodbore's bosses are all "muh furry beast that screams lol"
But this guy already debunked OP right off the get-go
weeb faggotry, sekiro lacks so much world building and details, dark souls and bloodborne got actual history and culture behind its civilisations, and visons for future.
No, only because normalfags are tasteless cunts and they are unfortunately majority
Also souls series and bloodborne are divided, one fag will vote for bb other for ds1 and other for ds2
You mean still spammed by the 2 retards that for some reason like it (probably because it was their first From game)?
That's not true though? Maria, Logarious, Gherman, Micolash, Gascoigne right off the top of my head are humanoid bosses.
what the fuck are you talking about, sekiro was like half of BB budget and lacks everything, beside good bosses. combat can be somehow better but even thats arguable.
Imagine being this delusional. Top kek
>better bosses
>better graphics
>better story
>better characters
>better world
uh okay retard
bb got good variety of bosses from monsters to humans and something between that like orphan
Keep on coping that your fotm meme game has been forgotten
>thread criticizing BB
>instead of defending BB, BBfags start shitting on Sekiro
Why does this keeps happening? Why are you so insecure about it? Maybe because your precious exclusive isn't the best From game anymore? Pathetic desu.
or i can return the game. dmc, you could just spam trangle, but that would lower your style which lower the whole outcome of your effort, therefole you gotta mix it up if you want the best, any fighting game (except that piece of shit smash bros) would leave you fucked against your oponent if you just keep doing the same thing cause you'll be predictable, any platformer while yes you just press jump most of the time, the diference between a short hop and big hop makes the diference, rpgs require you to have a plan of action before the game start and the best plan varies from fight to fight. enjoy your buyers remorse, I on the other hand will take my money elsewhere
I loved Bloodborne but after Sekiro I dont enjoy the combat as much. However, Bloodborne's environment/setting/soundtrack are 10/10
see BB is a blurry mess of chromatic aberration set in a cringe worthy environment that only neckbeards could love. The story and characters are full forgettable, and the mechanics are awful. I does everything worse than DaS and MUCH worse than Sekiro.
Sekiro is the best example that combat is not the only relevant part of videogames.
I really love sekiro, but bloodborne and dark souls were a lot more comfy, they got soul, and atmosphere
>76posts
>20IPs
Yikes. Looks like Bloodbore is compeltely dead and forgotten on Yea Forums.
Nioh is soulless. It's literally just Dark Souls: Diablo Edition. Who else but autists would find joy in copious amounts of shit loot.
Oh boohoo, so I was one point off.
I think it's just as likely that you're the one who is one point off.
dude, bloodborne has lore for fucking flowers, types of mould, rocks/crystals, types of blood and other shit that runs in peoples veins and heads.
You have to own a PS4 to play it. Only about 20 Yea Forums posters even consider it worth it to own one.
Then witcher is even more forgotten and dead
The art direction Nioh is Korean MMO tier. It's so uninspired and boring to look at.
I agree except I also believe that sekiro is also comfy and has a decent amount of soul (once you get the combat down that is)
Proving my point. Autism.
That board game looks neat.
Sekiro has more soul than BB and Dark Souls sequels since it's not yet another lazy rehash.
>Sekiro has more soul than BB and Dark Souls sequels since it's not yet another lazy rehash.
dark souls got about same amount of stuff and lore as bloodborne but thy are constructed fery different way, sekiro got 1/3 of worldbuilding of those two, it lacs so much item descriptions and deraisl in enviroment.
>tutorial prompts out the ass
>ugly grapple nodes
>asscreed stealth attacks
>simplistic UI
I liked Sekiro, but it was clearly trying its best to be more "welcoming".
>better bosses
Not true, or rather it's up in the air. Sekiro has tighter bosses mechanically... sometimes. But overall the music and design of Sekiro bosses is the same and you fight them all the same way besides Demon and Ape. The big problem is lack of variety.
>better graphics
No.
>better story
No. The story is literally a thread lifted from BB's lore... specifically the thread of blood ministration and corrupt vermin. Aside from that, it's just some generic yarn where you're chasing maguffins and protecting Kuro by never actually protecting him. They try their best to make it a big mystery about who killed owl, but literally nobody gives a shit by the time of the "big reveal", and this was more or less another idea lifted from BB. More was way less in this case, because they just took some BB themes and tried to strech them into a full narrative, and it didn't work well.
>better characters
Not at all. All the characters were mostly forgettable aside from pretty much Isshin and even then he sort of comes off as a generic stiff samurai character. Even Genchiro, a guy you fight three times throughout the course of the game, is completely stiff. That describes all of the characters: stiff and lacking motivation. You might want to say they're "underplayed", but this wasn't the case at all.
>better world.
Not even going to dignify this one with an argument.
I mean it won hundreds of GOTY awards. Bloodborne won... how many?
Witcher 3 is clearly the superior game from an objective standpoint, and anything you have to say after that is just cope.
>more soul.
>cutscenes and tutorials out the ass and rips off BB's story and makes it worse.
by that logic BOTW is even better than Witcher 3.
Bloodborne is just as unfinished/piecemeal as Dark Souls 2, the difference is that the former had a competent director working on it so it feels a lot more cohesive.
>he literally care about game of the normies
Lmao@your life, get some taste or begone
I spent like 200 hours on that game alone, it was easily worth it even if I only played that one game but thats not even true anyway
well you are just insightless fool who clearly dont get the lore, no wonder you feel safe with sekiros straight forward story.
Yes, it is.
>muh sekrit club
Popular things are popular for a reason. You're not cool for pretending to like muh edgy grimdark game that no one else liked.
Shit gameplay and overemphasis on story as its main drive spells "shit game" to me.
>ladies
What a fucking retard.
Tony Hawk Pro Skater is the greatest game ever made.
For your sake I legitimately hope you're baiting. If not, yikes. Don't breed.
>popularity = quality
you're absolutely out of your mind if you think this way
Video games are allowed to have compelling stories. They don't all have to be these esoteric things that you have to read a wiki and watch youtube lore videos to understand.
So you actually believe that Witcher 3's status as a beloved video game by millions is not legitimate?
FPBP
and still gotd, could you fucking imagine how brilliant FS games could be when they finished one?
yah from that point skyrim,NuGow,Botw,Tlou are best games, the fucking trophu circle jerk is literally only argument witcher fags have, truth is witcher 3 shines best on dialogue options thats all.
Now that's a drone if I ever saw one. Buyer's remorse is one hell of a thing huh?
Do you think the status of annual FIFA or FPS games loved by millions not legitimate?
I really hope you are baiting us
What the fuck are you even doing here on Yea Forums?
I'm saying my opinion is different and taste is subjective. Millions love Bloodborne, it was just too hard for cuck journalists.
bloodborne is literally only fromgame after des that dont have filler areas,
>buyers remorse
>for a 6 year old console
Reaching.
Yes, these are all amazing games. The only people who disagree are just being contrarian for the sake of it, because they were bullied in highschool and want to get revenge on "the normies."
How many awards do FIFA games win?
Nothing about the Witcher's 3 story was particularly compelling frankly. Most television and moves and books doesn't have particularly compelling stories for that matter, and they're much better at telling a narrative then a game. I don't watch music videos to 'check out the cinematography' and don't play videogames for narratives.
However, videogames have an incredible advantage of having maximum immersion in a setting and world with saying very few words. This is the one strength videogames have, not plodding from drop-down dialogue tree to drop-down dialogue tree.
But Witcher 3 won tons of player-vote GOTY awards, too. It beat out Bloodborne by miles. It wasn't even close.
all normies fuking love game of thrones too. and it have been shit show since season 4
>awards
Doesn't matter. What matters is the consensus. Millions more play and enjoy FIFA games than w3.
FIFA outsells Witcher 3 by miles. Wasn't your original argument popularity = quality?
Forbidden woods
Byrgenwerth
Cainhurst Castle
Both Nightmares
Yahar'gul
They're not as bad as Lost Izalith but they're still mediocre.
I never bought a ps4, and I don't own one. I borrowed the system from a friend and spent a couple weeks with the game. I enjoyed it immensely. I enjoyed it so much, I think I might pick up a ps4 down the road just to replay BB.
But way to argue against my points.
>bloodrones are shitting on Witcher again
Obsessed
No, my original argument was and still is popularity to the extent that it earns more awards.
Better bosses? In vanilla BB the bosses are really mediocre, only the DLC ones are any good. Dark Souls 3 it's a lot better in that aspect, and in everything else as well.
>witcher fanboys come into a thread about bloodborne to talk about their game
Literally obsessed
All of these have good individual level design, save Byrgenwerth. And some of these areas offer a nice challenge.
no, u
>awards
>doesn't matter
They're probably the only things that matter. Millions of people played flavor-of-the-month game, but promptly forget about it by the time the year is over.
An award is when you're forced to choose which game you truly believe is the best. This is the only reliable metric.
>Nioh
Easy as fuck
Is your picture supposed to prove something? Literally soulless corridors and arenas. Forbiddwn Woods was DaS2 tier.
Yes, those are all truly great games. Are you telling me they're not? I mean, it's your opinion, but it sounds like you're just hating them because they're popular.
None of these are filler compared to Dark Souls 1's completely fucked up areas:
>Crystal Caves.
>Demon Ruins.
>Lost Izalith.
>Valley of the Drakes.
>Great Hollow.
>Ash Lake.
>Catacombs.
The worst level in BB is Frontier no doubt. I would rank it above all those levels with ease, because it has a good boss and it doesn't feel incomplete, it's just not very good. It has level design like Sekiro (too open).
DaS3 is just a boss rush mode. Everything else about it is pretty mediocre, and it's been unanimously agreed as the most uninspired and boring one, save DaS2.
Skyrim is better than witcher
yea i wish this was like super mario 64
wrong thread dumbass
forbidden woods is one ofthe most carefully crafted areas from has ever made.
Byrgenwerth/lecture hall is good and interesting place
cainhurst is kino
mensis is great
yahrgul/hypogean gaol is absolute kino.
only place that thy could have done better is frontier, they tried to make it somehow absurd, but not enough.
yea i wish this was like Witcher 3
>This is the only reliable metric.
Paid reviews aren't reliable.
what about player reviews? Witcher 3 still won more of those.
WTF are you talking about? I never mentioned Nioh.
>corridors and arenas.
Like in every other souls game?
obsessed
Why would you want it to be shittier?
Bloodborne is straight garbage. Don't fall for the kids who bought a PS4 just for this game. They are coping.
Areas, lore, loot, exploration, bosses and normal enemies are better in DS3. Bloodborne has a nice setting, the insight mechanic and nice atmosphere and that's it.
first good das3 boss is pontiff and after that, only nameless king and twinprinces, friede and gael are great but maria and orphan are better
>tranny with fingerless gloves
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BB wins again, based
>Areas, lore, loot, exploration, bosses
It's literally a corridor, and the lore has so many discrepancies and retcons. By the time you've finished all the other souls games, DaS3 felt insipid and barely an improvement except for bosses.
What's wrong with game of thrones? Are you just pulling random slips of paper with names of popular things out of a hat?
Gundyr, Pontiff, Midir, Gael, Twin Princes, NK, Dancer, Firede, Soul of Cinder and abyss Watcher are all better than any of the vanilla BB bosses. Only Ludwig and Orphan are in their level. Maria is a waker, easier Friede and Lawrence is a reskinned Cleric Beast.
skyrim is really shit rpg
tlou is very simple game and good movie
nuGow is actually really good on hardest difficulty but suffers on enemy and boss variety
Botw got something great elements but falls flat because huge empty areas.
witcher got really good story branches but thats about it, nether of those games are all around good.
This is going to blow your mind, but even people who played and loved Bloodborne still had to choose Witcher 3 as their GOTY. It just resonated with more people. It's just objectively a better game. I'm sorry that you were never popular in high school, but don't bring that into video games.
didint git gud ha?
Shit gameplay + emphasis on story = bad game
it's the golden rule
The world design is mediocre, but the areas individually are the best of any Souls game. Same with the lore, is disjointed, but the different bits are better than Bloodborne's. Pontiff and Adritch, the Lothric royals, Gundyr. Abyss Watchers, Wolnir and the Profaned capital, all better than Bloodborne. From went too far in BB with the "figure out the lore yourself" meme and left major parts of the game completely unexplained. When the game end you don't know what the fuck the Moon Presence wanted, and that's the main antagonist of the game and the entity that directs the player. Why was the hunter doing anything that they do? Who knows, From decided to be misteryous and not explain shit.
>projecting this hard
>getting bullied in high school this hard
gundyr was pretty good and dancer is one of my faforites dont know why i forget that.
watchers are piss easy
SoS is good because of lore not that good fight tho
That's weird, you and a handful of social outcast neckbeards are the only ones who seem to believe that. Everyone else seems to think just the opposite. Isn't that weird?
so you would say TLoU is the greatest game of all time?
i propably have choosen it too but only because bloodborne didint have old hunters dlc back then.
Everyone has it's own tastes, but i think it's clear DS3 has the most consistent quality in bosses with the highest amount of great ones.
>objectively a better game
literally allaround mediocre game but story and quests are so well written and interacted its good, thats it.
What a retard. The game establishes that you're suffering from illness and as part of a contract, you're administered blood in exchange of becoming a Hunter for the Night of the Hunt. Then, you unravel things as you venture through the world. The lore is objectively more interesting. Everything in DaS3 is "Dude, remember that thing? WE DO IT AGAIN LOL", and there's nothing that adds anything meaningful to the world. All that DaS3 has is the a slight increase in quality of bosses and okay PvP, in exchange for mediocrity in every field.
>Once you get to Rom, all villagers should be replaced.
Yahar'gul
dark souls 3 literally has one good area and its cathedral, nobody thinks the lore is better, dark souls 3 is really good grand finale and ending but thats it.
>What a retard
Sure thing pal. You are being manipulated by the Moon Presence to do everything you do in the game. Now explain the Moon Presence motivations.
>Everything in DaS3 is "Dude, remember that thing? WE DO IT AGAIN LOL"
Literally not a single thing i mentioned as good parts in DS3 lore are retellings of anything.
witcher 3 and GOT have same appeal.
thrones was good when it was based on the books and politics and backstabbings where un expected, now it has gone full on garbage.