While Valve is playing with their tiny VR shaped dick, Epic is making power play moves and actually focusing on GAMES - not gimmicks
>J-j-just wait for that major VR exclusive!!!1
We've had VR for a couple years and there has been 0 relevant games made for it.
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Nice bait, faggot, but Rocket League is a garbage game past its prime. No big loss there
>VR
>Steam Controller will be the new standard
>Windows won't be relevant for gaming anymore
Just ask gabe to stop wasting all the counterstrike, tf2 and dota microtransaction money on making useless shit nobody wants.
>buy rocket league when the player base has dropped to sub 1000 players
they really can't do anything right
The price point for steam's VR is retarded and is going to fail horribly, but fuck off epic shill. How many more times are we going to see this exact thread for the next week?
>sucking corporate dick
lmao
You shouldn't be rooting for either corporation to "win" you piece of shit. Consumers benefit when multiple companies offer the same goods or services and need to compete with each other. In the context of video games, this means it's best for consumers to have a choice about where to buy a game. Epic is successfully competing with Steam for game publishers' attention, but they're not doing anything for consumers by paying those publishers not to do business with other stores.
you fags who are saying rocket league is dying are full of shit. It is a consistent top 10 concurrent players game since it launched. people who play lots of rocket league are holding their breath because this shit is legitimately scary. people who played the game while in alpha have a special boost trail that goes for over $1000 and some people have over $25k in items on their account.
is it still the wild west in the US, how are regulators approving all these acquisitions and not filing antitrust suits or someshit
i guess it's kinda nice to break up the steam monopoly tho. btfoing amazon and ebay would be sweet, they're crooks.
>Steamcharts for a game that isn't going to be on Steam.
You act like the people are going to move to Epic after they already have it.
NO ANIME BROS HOW COULD EPIC DO THIS
Can you still play it on steam if you own it?
>Steam
>GoG
>GMG
MONOPOLY REEEEE
>Epic
Competition, this is how things should be
yes
bump
so why is valve being sued by a native american tribe for skins gambling done on a third party site which they don't control?
is epic behind this?
Honestly, Steam drones, has Valve made anything successful in the past few years?
>Steam machines? Flop
>Steam controllers? Flop
>SteamOS? Flop
>Steam Link? Flop
>Shartifact? You better believe that was a flop
>Source 2? Not even made to even be a flop
>Steam Videos? Flop
>Steam VR? Fired devs
Literally the only money they have is from rent controlling other peoples games like a corrupt landlord, and that's gonna end soon.
(Reminder Steam drones have never proven me wrong about this list and instead just say things like "NOBODY CARES ABOUT ARTIFACT!!!1")
TF2, Counterstrike, Dota 2 and Portal were all 3rd party projects.
Valve hasn't done anything good since HL2.
I might have been convinced to use Epic's dogshit store if they had actually been funding new games. With every new exclusive they buy, the chance of me ever giving them money plummets further and further.
I'm perfectly happy to pirate. You need to actually offer me something of value to convince me to pay, and preferably not act like a piece of shit. Epic is incapable of both.
A good client
>this zoomer doesn't remember how shit the steam client was when it first came out
I'm pretty sure Rocket League is bigger on consoles.
>Pooh is taking our games Anita was just the scout
They never do - they were never alive then, or spent their youth playing things like Runescape and things that didn't require Steam
>when it first came out
>has Valve made anything successful in the past few years?
its almost as if massive updates to the client have happened in the past few years
Yeah only Steam are allowed to update and change for the better. Nobody else is.
You retards are pathetic. Steam hasn't been bad for at least a decade at this point.
Epic would rather spend money and force consumers to either download their shit client or not play the games they want to play instead of actually improving it
>At least a decade
Yeah, and for at least half a decade they haven't done anything except collect money from microtransactions.
that game was a flavour of the month years ago, i think its funny that epic wasted money on them.
Then don't buy it until it's good enough just stop pretending that Steam wasn't a heap of shit until after a few years.
>Steam will not win
>win
Win what? No, seriously, win what? Steam just releases stuff, it's not competing, it never has and it never will.
If your service needs to be compared to a heavily flawed one from 15 years ago before there was even an established model for what the service should look like in order to look competent, then your service is shit.
So why can't you admit Steam started bad and got better, and so could Epic?
It's like you guys have that reasonable part of your brain turned off when it comes to anything Epic
why is everyone crazy about this anime? seems like the same shit we've seen a dozen times in a school setting.
psyonix already said they don't plan on stopping the sale of Rocket League on steam, this is false reporting.
>power play moves
Monopoly.
>focusing on games
>by buying out exclusivity deals for shit people already own
big think
>stop pretending that Steam wasn't a heap of shit until after a few years.
want to know the difference?
back then you could play the games you want to play without being forced to download steam
is that too strange a concept for you to understand?
EPIC GOOD
STEAM BAD
>your service
I'm not saying Epic's service is good. I'm just saying Steam was pretty shit when it first came out too. That's the nature of new things.
>without being forced to download steam
Then steamworks appeared and everyone got used to client tied games.
Thanks Valve.
uPlay and Origin still don't have a quarter of the features of Steam (like Steam reviews) - so it's not like copying Steam is the way to success
Shortsighted retard.
>Rocket League goes f2p
>Fortnite gets a crossover event with Rocket League
>kiddies find out the existence of this other game that isn't Fortnite
>further entrench them into the EGS
>new generation of gamers where EGS is their Steam
>Rocket League esports blows up
>even more money raining down from above
>even more people get on EGS
75% of the player base, yes.
Most pro players use PC though for performance
Does there exist a human on Earth that wants to play Rocket League but doesn't already own it? Who the fuck do they expect to buy it now?
Epic COULD become better, but they also could have started with a competent store in the first place, since there's an established pattern for how to do that at this point. They chose to release a piece of shit that they are pushing by buying up exclusives instead of improving it, and so I'll judge them for that.
Here's a question, can you give me just one compelling reason why I shouldn't pirate a game exclusive to Epic's store?
But epic isnt competing with 2004 version of steam. The consumer standard had changed
>why are weeaboos crazy about random cliche tropes done the same again and again
its just how every anime is.
>chinamen spend shitloads of money in a mad dash for global market dominance
>the amerifat applauds "BLESS YOU EPIC. YOU CARE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES!"
>epic throws oodles of cash to buy dying multiplayer game
>rocket league devs laugh at them for being so fucking stupid
>Isn't competing
Then it isn't relevant then. Again stop pretending that Steam was born perfect.
Fuck off console peasant, linux is legitimately the future of gaming
>standard is made over a decade
>competitor is released and doesn't even meet standards for a fucking normal storefront, let alone every other video game storefront
They're missing a fucking shopping cart. This is basic level online store features and they're missing it.
Oh and somehow with all of these features missing it runs worse than steam.
>Epic says they will stop poaching shit for exclusives
>does the opposite
Who would of thunk (((they))) would do such a thing?
>next thursday
>Rocket League Devs announce Rocket League 2
>Exclusive to Steam
>Laughing jews.mkv
>Here's a question, can you give me just one compelling reason why I shouldn't pirate a game exclusive to Epic's store?
Go ahead, there's no stopping poorfag pirates like yourself from pirating even quality Steam games/releases like Sekiro anyway - a game, which btw, did everything perfectly in its release on Steam - no Denuvo, full Steamworks features, same release day as consoles, etc
They cant buy every developer
EPIC DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING PLAYER COUNT CHART
IMAGINE SELLING MULTIPLAYER GAMES BUT YOUR CONSUMERS DON'T FUCKING KNOW IF THE PLAYERBASE FOR THAT GAME IS STILL ALIVE
>kiddies find out the existence of this other game that isn't Fortnite
>continue playing fortnite
Yeah, 15 fucking years ago. They are competing with the steam of today, not the fucking half-life drm of then.
Try having some fucking standards you chinese cocksucker.
See:
>he thinks Rocket League is good
L M A O
Epic's store is not new, it's a very established concept that has been done by dozens of companies. Even if you want to pretend that "oh it's new for them", you're still wrong, because they've been running a digital marketplace for Unreal Engine Assets for years.
But I dont. I did not indicate anywhere in that post that steam was born perfect. Rather the opposit.
You argue like a jew.
>exclusive
Are you seriously getting shitty about Epic buying exclusivity for a FOUR YEAR OLD DIGITAL AIR HOCKEY game?
Did you also get mad when Netflix bought exclusive streaming rights for Mad Men?
>$2 per episode
People really pay this?
>Sekiro
Laughable. I'm not interested in playing Fromsoft's latest bland action game. Not even worth a pirate.
As hilarious as that would be I doubt whatever contract they made with epic would allow it.
>Chinese
I'm not getting Epic games or their client. It's made by zoomers for zoomers.
Lets just not pretend that Steam isn't the reason for games of a service being expected in every shape and form these days though.
You argue like a nigger.
This comic is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having reading it.
It's competing for the profits made from gouging customers, this isn't some war of ideology
Steam was responsible for Epic
You know there is a difference stop pretending to be dumb.
It was never great.
They probably get access to Unreal 4.0 engine coolshit for free to make their next game as part of the deal.
All it's gonna do is make a kid friendly platform like the consoles where I can't swear at my dumbass teammates, fuck ubisoft for this same reason last time I played a non OG ubisoft game was when I got banned for telling a teammate who accused me of stealing a kill "secure your fucking kills then retard" and I got a 2 day ban on R6S swearing should be allow since the game is rated M and "online interactions aren't rated by the ESRB" I don't know about PS or Swtich but I know you can't swear on xbox no more and it's pathetic. Steam is for adults, epic is for children and man child, this is how it's gonna be now
8man was /ourguy/ season 1
now he sucks
>competing for the profits
No it's not. Competing is a myth.
I know right? It's fucking ridiculous how nintendo developed games are always nintendo console exclusives!
You fucking retard.
>shilling for another of china's commercial-espionage-by-proxy platforms
5 points were added to you social credit score
>Quoting an Adam Sandler movie
OH NO NO NO NO NO
I mean fifa does infinitely better on the consoles so you're wrong
rly mks u tink
almost like I don't have to use netflix to watch it.
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noggin
joggin
that's next fucking level
I've never heard of a game becoming an exclusive after the release date
>being a fanboy of any company
>enabling shitty business practices
>downloading foreign spyware
>pretending to shill for one company to get loyalists of another to rage
>actual shills thinking they even matter as humans
>shitposting so hard that you start believe your own boldface lies
I’m not sure about you fags, but I’m sitting back and watching this mess unfold while I continue to enjoy playing vidya. Fads come and go all the time.
Exactly, nobody gives a shit about old content and you can sell it everywhere and people still won't buy it.
Gabe can't skim the fat off of every transaction when there's no games in his store. Once enough AAA devs jump ship, steam will have to find a way to compete if they want to stay in business
Buying exclusivity for a four year old already released game is kinda a new thing desu. Hilarious in its own way. Don't pretend that console kiddies wouldn't freak if, say, Microsoft bought Bloodborne and removed it from the PS4 lel
Bullshit, you haven't been jumped yet.
>why are you mad about an old game being exclusive? What about this old TV show
>It isn't exclusive you can see it on other platforms
>exactly, nobody gives a shit about old content and you can sell it everywhere and people still won't buy it.
I feel like I'm going fucking insane you retards need to pick an argument and stick to it
Adam Sandler used to be a great actor, you're probably too young to remember hits like AirHeads though
Why did Microsoft go to steam for MMC when Epic is the clear winner anyway
they only know basic english, don't worry too much
Whys it okay for epic to skim the fat off of devs by your own retarded logic? You realize steam still takes less than all the consoles I know you play on
>repeating the same tired Yea Forums phrases
It’s funny how you think you’re somehow superior.
Enjoy being another person that contributes nothing to society. Parrots already exist, so no need to pretend to be one.
>Once enough AAA devs jump ship
I mean the only ones that matter are the Japanese ones, and they seem pretty happy with Steam.
Because Epic couldn't offer M$ enough money to even make them blink
Exactly, people need to realize that Epic taking such a low cut compared to the industry standard means they are making up the profit some other way, most likely selling user data.
if steam was a monopoly this would literally be impossible, this would be like trying to buy whole foods from amazon
Psyonix is literally owned by Epic now. They couldn't sell anything on Steam unless they quit and make a new studio.
This is justice for Valve getting rid of physical copies on PC, giving digital distribution a monopoly on PC, and making it so using some console wannabe platform like Steam is the only legal way to play new games on PC. Valve used even worse tactics when they were pushing Steam but Valve always gets a pass because praise le gaben
Yeah Sony retards act like Sony and Microsoft are even comparable when the Playstation is pretty much their only positive revenue stream and the xbox brand itself have almost never been profitable, yet Microsoft is worth about 10x Sony lol
You've posted this several times and literally nobody agrees with you
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>they are making up the profit some other way
Currently they're probably doing that via Fortnite, but yeah, eventually they're gonna start fucking over their customers even more than they already are. Good thing I don't play multiplayer games anymore, so I am free to pirate anything on Epic's store that I'm inclined to play.
Fuck off faggot getting rid of CD based games was so nice do you even know the read speeds of a DVD vs a 5400rpm HDD? Like miles apart, you can download the DRM free version of most games fuck off with the physical games argument you should've fought that fight in 2009 retard
What are other popular indie devs on steam that also use UE4?
I pirate all my games and it makes corporate shills like OP SEETHE
You're a spastic.
There's a difference between being shit because something is new and being shit because it's designed like shit.
Believe it or not epic is a company with investors and investors like to see profits, investors don't like to see stagnation, or worse, losses, especially when you have great sources of profit like fortnite. Between epic's low cut (and therefore lower profit margins), paying for exclusives and buying out devs they're not doing to be in good shape for long.
You're really reading a lot into these objective facts, senpai. If Epic snipes every competent dev then steam will have no games and no income stream. They might not feel like "competing" since Epic is exploiting their position, but if their profits start drying up they absolutely will need to take some kind of action.
Inb4 you find some way to misinterpret that as ignorant shilling too, faggot
Tim sweeney says no one will use epic even if the store is good, by that logic he has no reason to make the store better which is why they delayed the entire store roadmap. At this rate the store will never get good.
Steam has never once forced a developer to put their games on its platform unlike Epic
Technically Steam doesn't have to do anything. They're a private company. They don't have to answer to anyone but the owner(s).
Nobody wants to run it off cd they just want to install it from there. Christ, the reading comprehension on this board is terrible
>reddit league
yawn
Jeez the desperation from Timmy boi on this one.
Looks like buying exclusivity deals haven't worked for him so now he'll try to buy out entire dev companies heh?
Enjoy Rocket League being overrun by retarded zoomers from shitnite and your data being gobbled twice as much even on steam version.
inb4: this retarded chinkoid shill is going to spam me some more of his battle pics which he spammed for months here.
>Editor’s Note: We wanted to clarify something for you after today’s news: Rocket League is and remains available on Steam. Anyone who owns Rocket League through Steam can still play it and can look forward to continued support. Thanks!
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it's literally nothing
>Steam has never once forced a developer to put their games on its platform unlike Epic
Yes because devs get indirectly forced just by them existing.
This is the culture of oppression you blind motherfuckers don't see because all you do is play games.
>If Epic snipes every competent dev then steam will have no games
>if thing that won't happen happens then steam is DOOMED!
Yeah, and if the entire industry crashed overnight, then steam would be screwed too, but it's not worth discussing that cause it's not going to happen.
Don't respond to me with this b8 again
>implying hl2 was good
>Epic: we want to help destroy the monopoly that steam has created, by making competition
>me: I agree, that's why I support GOG
>Epic: WTF YOU FILTHY PIRATE!? GAMES NEED DRM IN THEM BECAUSE YOU CUSTOMERS ARE ALL EVIL AND ENTITLED GOYIM WHO MUST BE SHACKLED FOR YOUR OWN GOOD
And Epic are the good guys here.
>culture of oppression
>CULTURE
>OF
>OPPRESSION
L M A O
DEVELOPERS RISE UP
holy fucking shit
how much money is tencent pouring into ES to make them buy so many studios?
Don't call me weeb names kid. 1 who buys from Western devs anymore, what you wanna play the division 2 and AC Oddessy? Lol use Uplay, wanna play titanfall? You have to use origin, wanna play call of doowty you have to use battle net, all these companies besides Ubisoft are on their way out anyways that's why at the cliffs end they chose to milk their consumers the hardest one last time. Jap games from Sega and Crapcom, gonna be steam games, at that point it's indie and Slavic games and those will probably be released on all platforms kinda like how most make it to GOG and Steam already. Epic is capturing a market of fortniters and that's it I hope they get their whales because that's all they truly want. I don't give a fuck about epic because it has no good games on it
The fuck is this argument? Of course a dev will put a game on a large market, it's like Hot Pockets are "forced" to be sold in Walmart, doesn't mean you can't find them in other stores.
Obviously, but where's the tipping point? How many is too many to lose before things aren't profitable enough?
Okay if you are just gonna install it from the disk why not just download it "because I have bad internets" cry harder nerd I live in the middle of bumfuck rust belt and I have 200mbps down, get a job
Do you realize how much money that would cost epic? Not to mention time, they say the can only add a few games per week to the store so it would take them years to wipe out steam even if they had infinite money.
Anyway some devs have no interest being bought out, see: bloodlines 2 devs.
Can't wait to see you change your tune when all the jap devs go to epic.
And hey, guess how popular ue4 is in japan.
Your days are numbered.
They only bought this one.
I haven't read the thread, or if anybody said this to you already, but you do know that the steam vr thing is already sold out?
Is that even allowed? Wouldn't they become the real monopoly then if that was the case?
uh cope
>Culture of oppression
>bideo bames
Buy a gun and pirate the game then #thisisamerica when the epic store goons come to check your epic games client is installed shoot them dead
The tipping point will be when the fortnite fad dies and Timmy stops having the cash to bribe publishers
UHM SWEETIE IT'S ONLY A MONOPOLY WHEN STEAM DOES IT
>Japan go to China
hahaha
>post yfw you don't play multiplayer games anymore, and you're not afraid to pirate
>Valve making a good platform that benefits the customer and developer is oppression
All that smog, gutter oil, and communism is rotting your brain, Wong.
Honestly? I don't think there is a tipping point. I think Valve could probably sustain it's entire business just off of DOTA2 and CSGO alone. Everything else is just gravy. With less games on steam, that also means less expenses when it comes to their CDN.
Japs aren't going to go to epic because epic's services are non-existent. Remember how MHW's online didn't work on PC for a whole month because capcom fucked up? Imagine capcom making an online service for MHW on PC from scratch, epic won't do it for them, everyone who goes to epic has to find those services elsewhere because 1. the 12% cut epic takes can't cover and 2. epic has no interest in providing such services for developers who can't do it themselves.
How can people even defend this shit? By the time it gets completely removed from steam i doubt epic will have the same functions steam has right now, they will be literally taking a product and making it worse for no reason.
>guess how popular ue4 is in japan
>store.steampowered.com
>store.steampowered.com
>store.steampowered.com
>store.steampowered.com
>store.steampowered.com
OHNONONONOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>adding games is a manual process that can fuck up shit for others
No wonder they don't even have basic store features yet. Because adding another exclusive to the store fucks up everyone else's work and adds another couple of hours to an already 100 hours of work.
You're not being paid to shill so you obviously wouldn't understand
How many times must you keep posting this copypasta before you are satisfied?
By the time Rocket League gets moved the Epic launcher needs to have something that's on the same level as steam workshops as well as a player number tracker.
>he'll try to buy out entire dev companies heh?
Maybe he should have just let the dev companies he already owns make some fucking games. I'm still waiting on that fucking Shadow Complex sequel. To say nothing of the fact Epic could be publishing Jazz Jackrabbit 3, Unreal 3, UT4, UC4, or just trying to buy up and port console exclusives. No one would be upset about any of those, but no, Epic wants to do things in the laziest way that provides no value to the customer.
It's gonna be hilarious seeing all the articles whining about piracy in a few years "why has piracy become such an epidemic again?" gee I wonder.
>Epic still gets paid
OHNONONONOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Because Steam never bought games so they wouldn't get sold at wallmart except HL2
Okay then even if Sega went to epic games (took them like 10 years to get their jap games to steam they work on their own time) I still wont use epic because I live and die by my principles, I don't like modern indie games and I don't like 3rd person shooters or action adventure games so I lose nothing waiting for the times exclusively to end, even if I still want your game a year later
JUST GIVE ME A NEW UT ALREADY
WHAT THE FUCK SWEENEY YOU FUCKING KEK HOW IS THIS SO HARD?
>mfw never fell for the Rocket League meme
feels good
They need linux and mac support too, two things that, if i'm not mistaken, epic doesn't have.
>we can only add a few games every week
Holy shit I wouldn't have even imagined this. Those poor developers
>Pajeet you need to add the latest game to the website, hurry up
>b-but sir... I'm trying to add a database so we can automatically add new ga-
>There's no time for that, open up notepad and code us up some html for the new game
>y-yes sir
It was okay when it was a cheap game called Supersonic Acrobatic Rocketpowered Battlecars on the PS3.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT ARTIFACT