Do certain videogames genuinely cause AGP? I can't help but notice it whenever games like DoA and Overwatch are always discussed.
This isn't even a bait thread, I'm genuinely wondering what the fuck it is about OW and DoA. Even whenever I see LoL girls posted.
Stop spending your entire life on Yea Forums / watching porn / looking at 2d "ero" images.
First, what is AGP?
>AGP
An abbreviation for autogynephile - a heterosexual man who practices autogynephilia.
This, to be 100% unironically honest.
Not OP, but no
Any media with sexy women will have a lot of male followers who want to fuck the women and a minority of male followers who want to be the women. It's not the 'cause' of anything.
Accelerated Graphics Port
It's ancient boomer PC technology for gaming
AGPeeps had it before Vidya, and just tended towards it because the community fosters and feeds it.
To be honest, I'd rather associate with AGP folks than a lot of other fetishists, you don't hurt anyone other than maybe yourselves.
Furries on the otherhand ...
Just tell me to kill myself and save some keystrokes
The first computer I built right after high school was AGP. It was a Radeon 9200, which had a whopping 128MB of VRAM.
So he gets off of himself? I don't get it. What does that have to do with sexy women?
>see attractive women succeed in every single avenue of revenue
>porn
>twitch
>work "equality"
>Belle Delphine
Gee yea I wonder why so many guys are turning out the way they are.
I WANT TO MATING PRESS AGAINST MERCY AND MAKE CUM DEEP IN HER TUMMY AND MAKE HER A MOMMY
I WANT TO GRAB THOSE THICK HIPS AND MOLD THEM BETWEEN MY FINGERS WHILE I SUCK OUT EVERY FLUID OUT OF HER MOUTH WITH MY TONGUE AND LOSE MYSELF IN THE GLIMMERING SKY OF HER BLUE EYES
Discord trannies being faggots
>cancerous frogposter
They actually hate AGP or calling it that because that means it's just a fetish instead of an identity. They use the term "egg" which is supposed to mean "trans in denial."
> autogynephilia
Oh wow there's a term for this.
Video games didn't do it to me, it happened cause early 2000s I would pretend to be a girl to get easy ERP, I figured "it's still one man and one woman, it's no big deal"
But it slowly grew on me and I got really sucked into the role. Then I met someone else in a similar situation and we fed off each other and years later have become massive fucking degenerates, the person I met even having had sex with a guy before.
Funny how things work out, never thought there was a term for it.
The hell is AGP?
I don't want to be a woman but I do desperately wish I was prettier. Not woman-pretty, but like... someone like Link, or one of the Persona protagonists.
Looking at good-looking women in video games makes this feeling more intense, too. I don't think it's AGP but, I don't know, there is a sort of intense longing to be attractive that I know I'll probably never be able to satisfy. What do you even call that?
But it is just a fetish. I know I'm not a girl and I'll never be a girl. I don't experience anguish looking at my dick.
I'd like to trap which is why I'm dieting but I'm not deluded enough to think I'll be able to trap when I'm fucking 35.
Autogynephilia, which means you get off on the idea of being a woman. Somewhat analogous to transvestiteism, which is a fetish where you get off on dressing up like the other gender.
You just want to be a pretty boy, that's not as uncommon as you'd think.
Pretty sure autogynophilia is just a "grass is always greener" scenario. If men knew what women had to put up with and vice versa it wouldn't really be a thing.
This, I have yet to see a more degenerate place than this shithole.
inb4 some epic double agent redditor links some irrelevant subreddit bullshit like last time.
Women have it better socially, but men have it better biologically.
>inb4 some epic double agent redditor links some irrelevant subreddit bullshit like last time.
Please elaborate. Is there some AGP subreddit or something?
Women have more upkeep to their appearance, but they also receive more rewards for it.
>Women have more upkeep to their appearance
Ehh, depends.
If you got an average face, all you have to do is not be fat. Men are expected to work out, and be tall.
Huh. There's a word for that?
I mean I guess I have it, but that's not something that I'd want to take any further than thinking "it'd be nice to have a vagina and rub it against another one" while I fap to lesbians.
But I know what I am and am not. And the little girl I am not.
>all you have to do is not be fat
... and shave your whole body.
And grow your hair out long, and take meticulous care of it.
And learn to apply makeup, and wear it regularly.
And take good care of your nails, on your hands and your feet.
These are considered the bare minimum for women. Yes, women can do less than that and still be sought after by men, but the ones who do do it are the good looking ones that everyone wants.
>"it'd be nice to have a vagina and rub it against another one"
That is AGP, yes, and lesbian porn is a good way to get it. You want to be in their scenario. You want to look as good as them. You want to feel what they feel. You want to be desired like they are.
Personally I think it's a combination of jealousy and sexual frustration. Women in pornography are deity-level gorgeous and (their acting skills convince you that) they are experiencing transcendant levels of pleasure, derived from their feminine bodies which you both cannot know or attain.
Yes, of course you want to be them.
The way to break out of it to just work on yourself, physically and socially. Build up your ego. Be someone you can admire. That's what I read, anyway - going to the gym is one way to do this, I've heard.
>tfw lost a shit ton of weight and got to wear D.Va leggings because of it
>These are considered the bare minimum for women
> Yes, women can do less than that and still be sought after by men
So it's not the bare minimum.
I can tell you're a woman because you're a fucking moron who contradicted themselves in the same post.
We already have the stats, women rated the average man a 3/10 while men rated the average woman a 5/10, women have higher standards, that's not even taking into account money and such, men don't give two fucks how much money their girl makes, but we know that isn't the same reversed.
AGP is caused by having little to no male role models when young and being raised by single mothers. Having only female teachers, women being treated better in society, having more rights, a movement named after them, this goes on and on. Video games with attractive women in them are literally your last problem. Don't turn into one of those evangelical idiots thinking video games are satan trying to lure you away from god.
pics?
I'm not a woman and I didn't contradict myself. I was suggesting that many below bare minimum women are still seen as dating material because men have no fucking standards. If they did, fat chicks wouldn't get laid.
If you can go below it, guess what? It's not the minimum.
>autogynephile - a heterosexual man who practices autogynephilia
Why do people write definitions like this?
I strongly doubt this, I never got AGP until I started watching moe anime
Whoa there, point the projector somewhere else. I don't actually hate myself as much as I used to.
I'm actually in a pretty good spot in my life right now, all things considered. I've got someone I love and I've got an okay job with good future prospects. But don't think for an instant I wouldn't take the magic anime pill to become a cute grill. But that's not reality.
Well I'm glad for you. Stop looking at lesbian porn though and pay attention to your partner. You'll like yourself more.
I get off on that idea in the sense that life would be so much easier for me if I were a female.
Old pic though.
>You want to be desired like they are.
This is the main appeal to AGP for me. I don't really have any interest in being a woman or anything, but I'm a closet exhibitionist and the idea of being sexually objectified turns me on.
>no bulge
lame
>Stop looking at lesbian porn
Never.
But I'll take the other part into consideration.
faggots
>Do certain videogames genuinely cause AGP?
No, people who already have the gay also attract other people who have the gay, because goddamn people with the gay are hypersluts and they literally cannot be happy with just one partner, they have to have a new fucking partner every 3 days.
Probably some form of coping mechanism to counteract how they're unhappy with their own bodies, so they constantly want something new to distract them? No idea.
Thus, if one place starts getting a few faggots, then MORE faggots will dogpile into the area. It doesn't much matter what the initial faggotry is.
>tfw it’s yuri doujins that get me feeling like this
Not even the hentai ones too I just like reading stuff about cute anime girls dating each other.
>I'm not trans because I know I'm not a girl and I'll never be one even though I wish badly I was one
That's called gender dysphoria dummies
>snes next to monitor
>metallia fig
based
Believing you're a girl the wrong body =! Wanting to be a girl
One is a mental illness, the other is just fantasy
Best you'll get is this other old pic.
Metallia is the best.
No, gender dysphoria is when you're convinced you were born into the wrong body and when you look in the mirror you feel like what you see isn't "you."
It's a legitimate mental illness, this is a fetish.
Cute!
No, there is a difference between knowing you're a guy but wanting to be a girl and actually believing you are a girl in a guy's body. One is a sexual fetish, the other's a mental illness.
i think user is saying
>linking me some highly specialized fetish subreddit isn’t going to change my opinion.
but there’s tons of AGP shit on reddit and elsewhere. nsfwcyoa has a shit ton of ‘be the girl’ stuff, there are communities where they caption images with shot stories that can be summed up as ‘and then he turned into a girl’ and drawn images in which guys animorph into girls
there’s probably a specific AGP subreddit, but it’s probably spammed with people posting links to ‘egg_irl’ which is the most insidious community i’ve seen
Also, don't confuse autogynephilia with faggotry.
Autogynephiles can be interested in lesbian stuff or solo.
Faggots only wear the skin of an anime girl as a trojan horse, to get sex from men who might be attracted to said anime girl.
In most cases the anime girl isn't even important, because your partners are openly gay as fuck and lust for dick. It's the same cancer you find in /ftt/ or JOI threads, where two people who are clearly both aroused by each-others' penises and are ONLY discussing said penises are posting pictures completely unrelated to the penises for absolutely no reason.
I understand the idea of sharing porn, but typically you share stuff your partner is interested in. Your partner clearly isn't interested in women.
That's the difference between AGP and faggotry. AGP likes girls. Faggots like dicks and try to sort of sneak in through the side path to obtain them.
>but it’s probably spammed with people posting links to ‘egg_irl’ which is the most insidious community i’ve seen
I'm convinced trannyism is a virus and it uses its hosts to spread to others.
You cuties need this. It's a staple of your new wardrobe.
Make sure to get some thigh high socks as well! (you probably already have some though.)
I don't get it. I've been jerking it to 2D girls for years but I've never felt the desire to be a woman. I suppose it depends on the person and their specific psychology.
I'm incredibly curious but not enough to actually go to reddit.
Wishing doesn't mean I'm going to spend a stupid amount of money on playing dress up and pretending a 30 y/o man looks good in a schoolgirl dress. That's what H-games are for.
Have you ever felt like you wanted to be attractive, you wanted someone to look at you and want to fuck you? I think it stems from that.
Avoid the popular subs like the goddamn plague.
>not getting the 9250 PCI version with 256MB vram
heh, better luck next time, kid.
do girls actually feel more pleasure than guys
the jews stole my foreskin so I feel double cucked
If you believe you are female when you're male, you wouldn't feel gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is feeling anguish or longing to be a female and KNOWING you are male, that is what causes the distress. Actually fucking look up these terms.
That is called "Envy"
It's normal enough.
Work out, eat right, and if you really wanna go hard on it buy some skin/hair products for smoother skin and hair.
i genuinely believe that some people have dysphoria or whatever and that transitioning helps them or whatever. mostly i don’t give a fuck
but then theres the egg shit, which is literally ‘haha you want to be a girl/boy you just dont know it’
its practically cult shit, but if/when you wise up and get out, your body is incredibly fucked up either from cutting your dick off and hormones.
ive seen semi-reasonable people there saying ‘its alright to be curious about being trans or not, but you shouldnt be quick to transition’ but they either dont get upboated or have scores in the double digit negatives.
reddit’s only alright on the incredibly niche shit, like said, the popular shit is usually constant regurgiation of opinions/jokes, and people who step out of line are dogpiled by negative shit.
nsfwcyoa is basically a semi-curated thread of the lewd OC from /trash/, and its only disappointingly bland at its worst.
most of the agp shit i found was on deviantart and writing.com but the former is often ‘crossbred’ with furshit and the latter went full jew.
>I'm convinced trannyism is a virus and it uses its hosts to spread to others.
promiscuous homosexuality too, probably related.
What I expect has happened is some intestinal bacteria has accidentally discovered a random bunch of chemicals it can make that, in a small % of its hosts, will affect their brain, and make them faggots that fuck 100 new partners every year. Like toxoplasma gondii but for humans.
Trannies come in many varieties, but most of them are people with emotional and self-esteem issues that they incorrectly blame on their bodies, rather than on their personality. Personality is hard to change but it's easier than changing your body, so I'm not sure why they don't try that first.
In any case, misery loves company, and everyone loves to spread their opinions, so trannies do convert others. Most aren't aggressive about it, though some are.
I've been trying for a long time, I just... have bad skin, live in a filthy environment with people who all smoke/do drugs/don't take care of themselves, and I get depressed and I eat.
Today is the day I go back on my fast. I want so badly to be better looking and to like myself.
They don't, the male sex organs and female sex organs have the same amount of nerves. I'm sorry your penis was mutilated at birth user.
>i genuinely believe that some people have dysphoria or whatever and that transitioning helps them or whatever. mostly i don’t give a fuck
Transitioning doesn't help shit honestly. They're just fakes, it's not as though doctors can rewrite their genes/chromosomes. A frankenstein'd dick/pussy isn't going to help anything. These people need to learn how to feel comfortable in the body they have now.
A thread died for this.
People think women experience more pleasure but they don't. Most of them can't even cum from intercourse.
If you want to know how women experience sex, get an aneros and practice prostate play. It's a treasure trove of pleasure that most men aren't aware they have access to.
>That is AGP, yes, and lesbian porn is a good way to get it.
Can confirm.
Fortunately, you can keep your personality with the AGP fetish, so you don't have to develop the anxious weak low self esteem personality that the "traps" do.
That just sounds like a gateway drug to faggotry, no thanks.
All you can do is your best.
Think back to a year or two ago, and I'm willing to bet your in a better state now than you were before. You're probably making good progress, but it's harder to judge yourself.
Nah senpai
anal is the biggest fucking meme on the planet
it takes way too much time and effort to prepare and it's only uncomfortable and awkward feeling at best
BASED
>Don't turn into one of those evangelical idiots thinking video games are satan trying to lure you away from god.
ONE MORE GAME REJECTED
Ok I'll bite, what is autogynephilia
Yes.
From personal experience it takes a ton of time and effort, but it's a very different feeling from penile stimulation and it's one worth exploring. It's generally more intense too. I dunno, I really like it.
If you just wanna get off though, your dick is much more reliable.
this is a non meme usage of the word, but that is a big cope
Thank you. I am definitely healthier than I was a few years back, yeah. I just have to keep going.
If we're talking peak sexual attraction, men's workout regimens and genetics, like height, are bigger technical limitations. The norm for female appearance takes far more effort to maintain than the norm for male.
The problem with a turning into a girl pill is this:
Your personality, thoughts, and feelings are stored in your brain. Your brain is chemicals. Your body is also chemicals - the same ones, in fact.
The chemical that makes you confident, aggressive, driven, strong, with a sense of justice, and a willingness to fight for what's right, is the same chemical that makes you grow hair on your legs, deepens your voice, and makes your chin square.
Magic can do a lot, but if your magic pill still makes basic chemistry apply, then either your personality is changing to a girly one, or your body is changing to a manly one.
Unless you had a magic pill that would turn you into a ROBOT girl.
Then that'd work perfectly.
But who would want to be a robot, where you could backup your personality for immortality, upgrade and repair your body easily, be easily 3x as strong as the average person, and be able to control your emotions as easily as you control your arms and legs? Haha that'd be crazy.
Catch fucking aids, tranny, and die in horrific pain
>I'm a closet exhibitionist and the idea of being sexually objectified turns me on.
Lift weight. 2pl8.
honestly the idea of making someone take the first pill and documenting their mindbreak into becoming a cute girl is pretty hot desu
having it happen to me is existentially terrifying though
Of course we're talking peak.
No one goes after the average person, no one aims to be average, you fucking moron. Average is settling.
A 30y/o man can look good in a schoolgirl dress, but you need to wear it lower than they do because of your massive testicles.
I also recommend shirt (unbuttoned), and bronze leggings. Remove NONE of your hair, and ensure your chiseled chest is visible.
It may seem counter intuitive, but you can pull and crush a surprising amount of puss with crossplay, if you openly display your manliness along with the crossplay.
Possibly because womens' clothes tend to show off your body better? idk
I do almost exclusively get off on putting myself in (lesbian) scenarios like OP's pic, or as a troubled girlfriend watching another lezzy take my lezzy.
I do like DoA and Overwatch waifus (though not the games), so yeah, it seems like it.
>le "I can't point out how you're wrong so I'll just reply with an image" post
Concession accepted, retard.
>anal is the biggest fucking meme on the planet
Women are the biggest meme on the planet.
Asses might be the #2 spot tho
This is the reason I think any genderbender manga where MC stays a girl- like Boku Girl- is a hard boiled psychological drama about a man losing the fight for his personality and mind to hormones and other brain chemicals. I think of it much the same as Emergence ending, it left me fucking broken for several days. Poor bastard Mizuki, he was LITERALLY killed by that Loki faggot.
>walk into thread
>"alright so whats AGP?"
>autogynephilia, obviously
>No idea what that is either, hesitant to look it up
Eh, I'm just gonna leave
The main issue with those stories is that your average woman isn't a pushover.
Go and try to "Bully" a random woman you know. She's not going to quiver and take it. She's going to complain to someone who can and will kick your ass.
Women are not weak and helpless. But instead of using a blunt object as a weapon, they use other people. They are assertive in indirect ways.
You being mindbroken won't result in you with you facedown and ass up in a corner crying about how lonely you are (unless that's how you already are, you fag). It'd result in you taking a much greater interest in convincing other people to do stuff for you.
it's literally just the idea of men who get off to imagining themselves as women
If you faggots kept reading past the first five posts...
It's the fancy word for wanting to be the little girl, but understanding you are in fact a man, and are comfortable with being a man and have no desire to join the 40%.
Or maybe he just enjoyed being cute.
It's a psychological practice of finding joy from imagining yourself as a female. It usually doesn't mean you're gay\attracted to men. You just distance from your usual self as a GirlYou and indulge in perverted stuff
>have no desire to join the 40%
Don't most trannies exist because of AGP?
People who hold spiteful images of the others naturally assume others hold similarly spiteful images of them
You also don't lose your hatred. Both sexes do that the same. If there's something that really pisses you right the fuck off, that'll still be present.
Being cute is not the same thing as being a faggot and I'd like to cure with fire anyone who thinks submission and surrender is a requisite for being adorable.
Yeah, but how do you explain him going full homo with his friend then? You can be cute and still fuck girls, or get fucked by futas.
When Avatar Trance ends I hope MC stays in a loving relationship with his futa neighbour and makes her some kids while still being a cute trap and taking cock.
yeah he's delusional. AGP is part of what trannies feel, it's not separate at all. He's trying to separate his "I want to be a girl" from trannies' "I want to be a girl" through mental gymnastics.
I'm not being spiteful, you're just incredibly immature.
Some do, but most are in it because they caught a combination of low self esteem, sexual addiction, and the use of other people's attention as a distraction/coping mechanism to distract from their problems.
A fetish is a fetish. It can take over your mind if you let it. MOST people don't let it. Some people do, though, because they are just that fucking weak.
mindbreak was the wrong word, i think. identity death is more appropriate, but there’s no verb for it
i dont mean torturing someone into it, i mean them gradually getting overpowered by new compulsions and habits.
the reason i dont like the idea of it happening to me is because i literally would not be the same me as i was before. interests in people and hobbies would slowly change, along with my personality, etc. etc.
death of the personality and all that
Thinking that others naturally hold distaste for the average person on your percieved social hierarchy is exactly that, user.
Don't think so. One's just fetish or wishful thinking, the other is truly believing you are in fact a woman trapped in a man's body and doing something about it.
Maybe they're linked, but there's gotta be something else at play that takes a person from thinking "wouldn't it be nice" to shouting "IT'S MA'AM" in the manliest voice possible.
Well that's exactly what got me depressed when I've read Boku Girl so you should try it. Hope you'll have your fun cause I really regret reading it.
I dunno, I honestly think plenty trannys do their bullshit because of a misguided attempt to make their fetish a reality
People change all the time, though. I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago, are you? Does that mean that 10 years ago me is dead?
sometimes I think the Amish are doing pretty great without the internet and modern technology. How hard is it to join an Amish community and renouce my modern life?
Just try to look deeper than surface school comedy, you'll find all the things you've described
>Thinking that others naturally hold distaste
I don't think nor have I said such things.
Your immaturity doesn't allow you to see the...honestly not that subtle nuance of what I said, I guess.
No one aims to be average, that's the fact, even introverts who don't like everyone looking at them strive to be above average in other regards, usually with a skill or hobby.
Everyone strives to be the best or better than they are. That's just the fact, no one is going out into the world looking to find someone who's average. So it's silly to act like those are the standards.
Your personality is a tool to achieve your goals.
Tools can be unsuitable for their job, and better served by replacing them with other tools.
Tools also wear down over time if you do not sharpen them.
I understand entirely that your personality is really fucking handy, but you can (and should) replace it with a personality better suited for your goals.
Obviously taking the titty pill won't do this because the girl personality is pretty crap for achieving goals, but a personality change isn't bad. It's sometimes necessary.
It:sissy white bois
Actually, yeah, it does. And it's fucking horrifying for me ever since I've read all Peter Watts books and played SOMA I've been thinking about this shit all the time.
Oh I don't doubt that, but it takes a loose screw to not see reality for what it is.
>Does that mean that 10 years ago me is dead?
Yes. Their raw materials have been recycled into a different and hopefully superior person.
What difference does it make so long as the things you love are protected and the things you hate die? You are one part of a very large system, and that one part will eventually have its heart stop working.
already read it, enjoyed it.
i’m one hundred percent certain that my fetish is the mental equivalent of snuff, also.
probably took a few too many blows on the head as a kid, ate too much paste, or watched too many totally spies episodes, who knows?
You seem to be assuming that s/he was self-identifying entirely by who s/he wanted to fuck, when there was clearly a time when she wanted to go back to being a dude and in a relationship with nobody, period.
Mizuki was clearly going to be straight (ie fucking people of the opposite gender) no matter what the choice at the end was.
>fetish is the mental equivalent of snuff
Yeah, it sure is. But who am I to blame you, user? Just someone who thinks that futa on male is the purest form of romance and sexual intercourse. Have a good day, dear sir.
Fapping to porn while imagining myself as the woman is one of my favorite things. Bukkake and gangbangs are the best.
yeah i honestly think that version of you is dead.
if you would make different decisions when in the same exact scenario, you’re fundamentally different.
it only becomes existentially horrifying when a future/past personality supplants the other forcibly, a la SOMA or stein’s;gate
You'd have an easier time shitting through the eye of a needle. Their baptism rituals are different, you need to be a part of their religion to be accepted by them, the baptism is a necessary part of that religion, and it cannot be performed past some age. I forget what age, but if you're on Yea Forums you're too old.
I always knew people that jerked it to gangbangs were faggots of the highest order.
>it only becomes existentially horrifying when a future/past personality supplants the other forcibly
I will have my mind when I pry it from my own COLD DEAD SKULL. I want my personality? Come and take it.
Go back to /lgbt/ with this retarded bullshit
the only thing this tells me is that men have really low standards, what a shocker
This pic is more accurate. You don't always really "grow up", some interests just linger and rot in your head for life.
For instance. This here is a tranny. Future 40%er for sure.
Doesn't like women at all, only uses them as a trojan horse to access cock. Unfortunately, fails to realise that even men have standards and won't fuck a disloyal slut.
Sounds gay
Well fuck, I guess I could go and work a blue-collar construction job, get fit and never use technology for entertainment. I could find a like-minded wife and maybe start a family? Is it easier to just kill myself?
Having the interests linger in a dark corner of your brain is infinitely superior than, say, becoming a discord tranny.
The scary thing is who is happier tho?
Lesbians are the worst thing ever how does any man find it hot that a woman doesn’t want to have your dick in them that is literally the biggest turn off
I want them to want my dick not want some other girl that isn’t my penis
i completely agree with you, but perhaps i didnt elaborate enough in my post.
what i would find scary would be waking up one day and suddenly being really interested in things i previously considered degenerate/wrong, along with the knowledge of my former opinion on it.
this might lead to an inner conflict of ‘doing this thing feels good, but it’s wrong’ and slowly shifting to ‘i don’t care anymore, it feels good’
there’s slowly becoming invested in something, and then there’s waking up one day to being really interested in birdwatching to the point of neglecting other things. one thing i had more agency in, the other one seems like a mental illness.
the idea of an alien force forcibly guiding my personality is the spooky part to me.
Believe me, I'm not deluded enough to think transition works.
But if I got a magic gender change potion, I'd chug that shit.
Also- ANY FUCKING ENDING of Futadom World will be to your great liking, I suppose. Cause futa cum will make MC a fucking retard\animal depending on the girl he chooses.