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>ignoring SC VI, DBFZ and BBtag titanic fall, losing to a fucking 3 years old budget anime game
based

Tekken is on fire. Most hype fighting game to watch.

>they brought back his win animation from the first game
soul

Why BCTB and not BBCF? I've been out of the loop. Just because it's the latest?

Yes

How much does it cost to get your game into Evo?

But T7 is there

Being Markman's friend, that's it

It's not. Tournament viewership has been rapidly decreasing for Ultimate

Fuck yes, brothers. Only thing I don't like about the victory pose: they're audibly talking, but the mouths are closed the whole time.

>sc6 next to last
This is the one that hurts me the most

>ignoring
When you've got 1 game that high the rest are a bonus, especially compared to Melee or MvCi's numbers.......

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>Tekken and the best Smash game beating SFV
>UNIST & SamSho doing respectably
Fucking nice.
DBFZ dropping off so drastically and SCVI doing poorly are a shame, but at least they aren't dead last like BBTag.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Oh you're that Tekken shill that posts on /fgg/ too....Nevermind, ignore my replies please

you should be happy that this dogshit game even made evo desu lad

Do you think we'll ever get an EVO with no capcom game?

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West won't care about KoF until it has elite graphics. Inb4 KoF XIII. No one cares about sprites in the 2.5D era. Too many proportions sucked. And the UI was trash.

It shouldn't even be there

Arcsys had it coming for their cancerous DLC model for BBCTB.

Holy fuck all of those games are awful

>heres a comeback mechanic so if youre,losing you'll only need to hit,your opponent twice at most to win!

The ironic part is that only Smash doesn't have this shit

What happened to Capcom between 2010 and 2011?

Reminder of Marvel fanboys
>dump on KOF 14 for shit graphics.
>defend MVCi's even worse graphics
>MVCi releases after KOF XIV.
>MVCi dead. KOF XIV still has global tournaments.

Not a single good title

>Bbut T7!!

Bet none of you fags actually play fighting games

>Oh you're that Tekken shill that posts on /fgg/ too
lmao no, that place is dead I haven't been in ages. Glad to hear you guys are still false flagging yourself into the ground.

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>dump on KOF 14 for shit graphics.
Literally everybody dumped it, not just Marvel fanboys

Of course I dont, I'm not black

>Unist 4th
I am pleased

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I mean attendants, not viewership

I think his point is more the hypocrisy, if Tekken 8 look terrible but people who dunked on XIV defended it that would be equally as bad.

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>Smash isn't a fighting game

My dream is an EVO Tournament without a NRS or Ninty game.

>ultibabs already forgot pound where melee finals had 80k viewers and ultimate finals at barely half that

So yeah you got Wiz on your side for now, enjoy it while it lasts because we're coming back baby.

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SmashU still has rage right?

who are you quoting?

IIRC, 2011 was the year EVO finally started to focus on "current" games, so they dropped some of the legacy Capcom titles that had been there for a long time. They also dropped TvC after its one year.

I like KOFXIV a lot but it's not a particularly pretty game, which stands out a lot more given that it's SNK. SamSho 7 despite being a similar level of 3D at least has an aesthetic that it's pulling off.

Unist has no comeback mechanic.

DBFZ really fell off huh

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Street Fighter x Tekken and greed. SFIV was one of the first fighters to feature costumes as DLC. So they kept pushing and pushing to see what they could get away with, while spending less and less on dev time.

When MK9 launched to tremendous sales. And MKX after that (along with Kombat packs). Capcom wanted that casual audience, too. So they dumbed down SFV, added story mode, and created their own kombat packs.

They failed. They failed to realize Mortal Kombat's selling point isn't the gameplay.

Arrogant Capcom and SF x T

patched the game to death

twitter.com/aksysgames/status/1120476521494470656

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Rage was nerfed between 4 and Ultimate. It's not as big of a deal. It really only matters if you let your opponent live when they're at a staggeringly high % or if somebody's playing Lucario. Also being launched hard enough in Ultimate prevents you from teching surfaces which allows a good read on a character in Rage offstage to guarantee a kill even if it was a stage spike.

Why crabs tho

How does it feel that Evo is primarily a Smash tournament now?

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LMAO How did DBFZ die this fucking fast?

Whatever Capcom is paying + one McRib.

The patches have only improved the game with the exception of a couple mid-tiers getting nerfed for no reason and ArcSys seemingly unable to find a way to nerf Bardock that sticks.

Not melee so I'm cool with it, the new one deserves a shot. Lot of games I wanted got in.

Just watch a tournament, and you'll understand

Nothing, they just stopped having old capcom titles as main games. There are still ST and 3s tournaments at EVO, they're just side tournies. Also around that time they started putting big money into new games in these tournaments, and nobody played old games for money.

Predict the final numbers

Will Capcom pull another free t-shirt stunt?

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There was a scare that tournaments wouldn't be carrying it because somebody who had their hands in the Dragonball rights pot wanted royalties or something from every tournament. There's also the game being extremely pressure-heavy which may have turned off people who weren't that serious about it since it could get kinda tiresome.

Devs consistently nerfing all the fun stuff out instead of just buffing all the bad characters.

From hype to dead. They've only themselves to blame.

NOOOOO THE 20XX MEME WAS SUPPOSED TO BECOME REAL

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It gets incredibly boring to watch to be honest. There is almost no variation between the characters; when someone gets clipped it is the same corner carry into 1 to 3 meters wasted to kill him. All the supers literally do the same amount of damage at the end of the combo so players know exactly how much meter they need to spend and when you are cornered on the defense there is almost nothing you can do to defend.
That is why UNIST is so much fun and growing. There are actual good options when defending

>last year in these threads
>"lol UMAD that SonicFox is basically at the top of the world in the FGC?
>"SonicFox is quite literally the best e-sports player right now. Deal with it."
>"LOOOOL you think DBFighterZ is going to die? See you next year ;)"
>next year rolls around
>"..."
Loving
Every
Laugh

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all the characters in that game look the exact fucking same doing the exact same combos. people got bored of it in weeks.

No ur not

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>Nothing
lol.

Only people who hyped this game were legit shills like Yipes, and anime players that wanted their time of glory after years of being bullied

Sf5 budget doesn't seem to have a lot of cash left, and pulling that stunt had to have been embarrassing. So probably not.

wizard wanted money from idiots rather than care about the scene itself.

Someone threw a crab at a player during a Melee event recently

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Who is playing SFV? How does it have that many entrants. I feel like discussion about that game is completely dead, but maybe I'm missing the threads and whatnot. That number of entrants is just shocking.

I love angry Kermit posts.

he still does that

Reminder that PPMD is literally never going to another tournament. Summit offered him free flights, a hotel room, and he doesn't even have to compete or be on stream, and he denied the offer.

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I don't know what I expected, but that was not it, and I can't imagine something better than that

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No melee or a crab dinner.

>mfw there's literally only 1 good fight game this year
Golden age is over.

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Uni will beat out SFV. I can fucking feel it.

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I'm happy that samurai shodown is doing well. I've been playing 2 and 5 special lately and it's a really nice change of pace. Hopefully 7 will be good.

Ultimate is going to do DBFZ 2018 Numbers. It's hot, everybody has it, some (not all) Melee players like it for once, etc. Tekken will pass 2k entrants but only hit 2100 at most. SFV will dip under 2k unless they pull a stunt.

DBFZ is going to have half its 2018 entrants, maybe less, but still around 1000 (I'd say 850 is worst-case scenario). UNIST & SamSho are going to do impressive numbers that they won't be able to sustain (SamSho will be replaced with KOFXV and at least a third of UNIST will be people who are hopping on the hot bandwagon and GG players who don't want to touch BBTag).

SCVI and BBTag aren't going to break records for being low but they're the only guaranteed sub-1000 entrant games. I'd say 600 and 450, respectively.

Good luck with that

Is there anything better than meleefags being blown the fuck out?

All of those games have like 50 players at most.

The FGC literally only cares if a game is new. It doesn't matter if it's the worst game or the best one.

Angry Kermit posts are always based without a single exception.

7 looks like a refined 2 with more thought put into the systems and that's just about the best-case scenario. Cannot wait to play my boy Haohmaru, my first main Galford, and the new hotness Darli.

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I swear to god if FB doesn't bring a new trailer for Gun nun and Ice man at EVO I'm gonna lose it.

>i-i-it doesn't matter that melee had the most views!!!!

>shit game that only has it's visuals to fall back on dies after initial hype
Yeah wow, who would have guessed

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You're only basing this off of what the official, sponsored games at tournaments are, because they're being pushed to get people into them and players enter because they subsequently have money in them, and feed into itself by having a lot of people to play which make them attractive to try.

There's still a ton of side tourneys for everything from ST to VSav to any KOF you'd want to Skullgirls to Virtua Fighter and so on at every major.

>Tekken brings the hype and views bro
Yeah, ok

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>the state of that lineup

apologize

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>SamSho will be replaced with KOFXV
Correct! I don't think anyone cares that much, though, besides the SamSho diehards (of which there are few). Like you said, KoF XV comes out next year. And, iirc, there was some SNK conference where they said their aim is two major games per year from 2019 onwards. So, next year it's KoF and Metal Slug, ... or it's a new MS this year with Shodown, I can't remember.

Probably means a new Fatal Fury in 2021, just a year after KoF XV comes out. Crazy.

This

Best game in the series and the only truly neutral-focused fighter this gen with actual character variety

>2018 when all the game needed was the legacy characters to come back
>2019 game is suddenly thriving now that the legacy characters are back
your opinion is trash bye bye

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It's a good game though. Not perfect, but recent patches have turned the meta into a better direction while giving most Low-Mid characters better options. There's still a few problem areas in the balance, but Guard Cancel's changes alone are helpful.

The only hype that died in me was the one that said that DBFZ would replace UMvC3 in my heart. It didn't. Nothing could.

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It literally doesn't

Veiws=/=money made. Plus the use of antique equipment makes it so even if it did make money comparable to other games it would be used in the hosting of the event.

>inb4 we smelee fags do it ourselves
That would be an insurance nightmare, quit lying to yourselves

Why is this avatarfag so angry?

>Guess launch didn't bump up MK
MK 11's problem at the minute is that tournament variations suck shit and are causing massive balance issues (Erron Black is near S+ tier because he has an answer for everything and barely any "Regulation" variations have teleports. Ranked is just Erron, Sonya and Geras at the moment) and they need either variation move quick select or way more available variations. No one is sure what ruleset Evo will use. When it becomes clearer or NRS realise they fucked up and just let people pick a loadout on character select.

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ohnonono guilty gear bros

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>There's still a ton of side tourneys for everything from ST to VSav to any KOF you'd want to Skullgirls to Virtua Fighter and so on at every major.

How many of them get even half the amount of players as the main games?

I love Julia so much.

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>Best game in the series
You must be new or blinded by new-game-hysteria. Nothing about Soul Calibur VI is exceptional. Nothing. Not the graphics, the gameplay, the soundtrack, the stages, the DLC. These are all areas where SC games are supposed to blow you away. Even with Tekken 7, Namco seem scared as fuck to push boundaries.

basically Toei ruined everything and killed entire community in a single week

>Namco seem scared as fuck to push boundaries.
Nandai Bamco? Anyway, you got only one guy to blame, especially now

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>It's a good game though
Sorry, I'll just respectfully disagree. The best praise I'll give it is ArcSys tried.

It's got more problems than that, son.

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I like SCVI gameplay. They handled the meter system a lot better than V. It's nothing exceptional but I definitely enjoyed running sets in it and that's the best thing somebody can say about a fighting game when it comes down to it.

Can't say the low turnout is surprising though.

Have sex

It's over crosstagbros...

Helllooo how's everyone doing?

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Unist dlc and a reblance please

Lethal Hits are amazing and fresh.

dragon ball has no neutral. It's a constant state of block strings and combos. There's no footsies, no zoning, no spacing. Run up dash and mash all day. Not a single instance of neutral is played in this entire match
youtube.com/watch?v=AzMQQDRxcvc&t=314s

That's all well and good. I'm glad you enjoy it and I'm happy SC6 exists. But:
>It's nothing exceptional
Is the problem. It USED to be exceptional. Now that it's merely okay, its popularity among serious fighters reflects that. Soul Calibur used to be one of the hypest games.

Doing it with my mom and yours right now. She got dick in her pussy and tiddies in her face, baby. We're gonna be brothers and uncles at the same time.

Seeing UNIB so high makes me happy, but seeing SC6 so low makes me sad. Also every single Gamecube and CRT display needs to be smashed with a fucking hammer, after that every Melee player will commit suicide and we want to deal with their horseshit anymore.

SFxT was 2012, 2011 is when they dropped legacy titles

Not really. SC has always bern second banana to Tekken in the competitive scene. There was little to no legacy support for the SC scene even way back 2002 when SCII was popular, atleast, not as strong as Tekken or Capcom games. France had it best though. There's a reason Tekken is still on top now and SC isnt, and its not just the obvious internal bias and politics in Bamco.

The gameplay is what I was talking about and is why it's the best in the series. Best balance, best character variety, most characters are more fun to play than in any other iteration, and lethal hits are one of the best new mechanics in a fighter this gen. Only real criticism is the animations for RE and supers taking too long. Legitimately quite a good game.

They dropped it, because of SF x T, it was supposed to continue SF legacy, and drop support of SF IV, but it went to shit, for obvious reasons, so they pulled Ultra SF IV at the last minute

RE should cost meter, and throws should at least beat it. Im ok with the clash, but I get it breaks the flow of combat and that's understandable. Other than that, its an alright game.

It's our time now

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I guess that's what it'll have to be. I can't say it doesn't have its issues but I enjoy playing, labbing, and watching it a lot. I also just really like tag fighters for team-building aspects.

I really can't argue against you there besides a few moments where Vegeta and Yamcha play neutral. Maybe I see more neutral than most because I play Broly & Jiren and sometimes use Cooler.

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>smelee
More like smelly

To see Japan raiding all US anime players?

Retards, most likely

I literally cannot understand what people like about Tekken

RE already costs a shitton of guard stamina that doesn't even get refunded if you hit it. Anyone who is spamming RE will get themselves killed solely via guard stamina, let alone an intelligent aware player just stepping that shit and punishing.

feeling good about overcoming the stiff movement and tank controls

it is fun

Of course. Where else am I gonna see people get fucked by Seth and Yuzu

Original fags liked Tekken's 1-3 because they were actually revolutionary. The rest are just costing off Tekken III's legacy (mostly old fags) or zoombas' nostlagia for Tekken 5. Tekken 7 is a good game, but it's not the best Tekken.

I enjoy Crosstag for some occasional dumb fun but Team Blue better be working on P5A right now.

Spacing and punish game feel distinct from most of the genre, wakeup game has its own meta, massive movelists give you a lot of "ace in the hole" once-per-set kinds of mixups, juggle combos with wallsplats and jumping down cliffs are fun. I'm not the biggest T7 player but that's what I get from it.

I'll admit I have a lot of nostalgia for T3 and Tag 1, especially Tag.

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>massive movelists give you a lot of "ace in the hole" once-per-set kinds of mixups
that just seems like bad game design that results from building upon the same base for 20 years and being too afraid/stubborn/??? to make any radical changes, though

>second banana to Tekken in the competitive scene.
We're not talking about Tekken. This might surprise you, but two separate games from the same company can BOTH be hype at the same time, as they were. But cool, be happy with low tier-Soul Calibur if you want. Things won't get better like that. Just telling you.

>P5S wasn't a fighting game but a fucking musou

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P4A is one of the shittiest fighting games I've ever played, I really hope P5A doesn't exist, I'd much rather see anything else

>I'll admit I have a lot of nostalgia for T3 and Tag 1, especially Tag.
Yeah, when T3 came out, everrrrrryone was like FUUUUUUCCCCCCK. They need to recapture that.

The dream is that somehow samurai shodown has enough staying power, and we get both it and kof 15.

>They need to recapture that.
They don't need to, modern Tekken fans will eat up anything they do while simultaneously tearing down every other game.

>They need to recapture that.
Tekken 7 singleplayer stuff proved that they literally don't

I just bought and I'm enjoying SFV. How do I cure my shit tastes?

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Nothing wrong with playing SFV

SFV is a totally fine game in its current state. A certain crowd is just obsessed with letting everyone else know how much they don't like it.

>no Guilty Gear
>no Blazblue
>no Marvel 3
>no Melee
>no USF4
>but it has fucking Unga Night

Is this just a glorified Tekken tournament? Fucking hell, this lineup looks abysmal.

>got vatista and linne together in my AA2 save
my dick still hurts

>USF4
>Melee
LMAOOOO NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY THAT SHIT B

I may have nostalgia for 3 & Tag but I also very much enjoy Tag 2 and 7. I fell off the series during 4 and 5, which seemed like a bad time to since they introduced a lot of interesting characters and most people consider 5DR among the best.

r/kappa: the post

Yikes

DORYA

>no Blazblue
???

tekken 7 and melee are the best games right now. that weeb game unisto is alright i think, i like the long arm fella

r/kappa jacks off Unga Night to no end.

One day I'll put in the time to learn T7...

>mfw SFV fags seething

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I don't know why you expect USFIV to be an official game when SFV is being pushed. GG hasn't had updates since Rev2 dropped, BBTag is technically BlazBlue, and Melee was probably too much trouble for the organizers.

I fucking wish Marvel 3 was still around though. I want the timeline where we got a new version of that with balancing, TAC/X-Factor changes, and 10 more characters instead of Infinite.

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>be born too late for classic thing.
>resent this, overhype newer iterations to try and steal feels.
It doesn't have to be this way.

Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF. Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.

I only recently started playing it, does that super move that you can only use when on low health not qualify as a comeback mechanic?

Not anymore, it's popular now

Can't forget what nobody knew about.

>it's popular so I hate it now

That's /fgg/

I just want to do Powerbombs with King.

>GBV going to replace ultimate next year
going to be kino having smash-less evos again.

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deluded meleegro. kill yourself

>>no Marvel 3
>>no Melee
Those are worse choices than every other game on the current lineup.

I think SFV is literally the same as Overwatch. A game that you jump on queue, beat up a couple of people and/or have fun playing with your friends. It's not a serious, competitive tourney game, but it's a fun casual game.
The only reason there was so much rage about its gameplay mechanics is because the most outspoken and visible members of the FGC and Street Fighter community are tourneyfags.
SFIV ruined the series in that regard, everything has to be a tourneyshit. Whatever happened to just having fun in casual matches?
Anyway, if you are enjoying SFV, then keep playing. There's no shame in the core game, and getting all the season 1 and 2 dlc for free with the Arcade Edition makes the game worth the cost now.

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But they love SFV

Imagine being this deluded. It's going to get easily over 4k entrants you retarded faggot

It's gonna replace BBTAG

Capcom fanboys. The series is just bigger than everyone else so there are more with "it is shit but it is SF so I guess that will do mentality." They are fans of a brand above all else. It gets called Duty Fighter for a reason, some of the aspects have met a more tolerable level and they can keep telling themselves well a new Capcom fighter is probably on the way. There is also a social aspect to it, they turn it to see people they know/big names. Something Leffen pointed out that is similar with SFV and Smash U. Players turn up, play their pool and then go do other stuff. No one is desperate to run sets.

> I feel like discussion about that game is completely dead
For the most part it is, even /fgg/ has spiralled into someone spamming unrelated twitter posts.

hopefully it replaces both

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>SFV getting rekt by Tekken and Smash
LMAO how the mighty have fallen, shows you how bad SFV really is.

Should I pick up the cheapest one one on Steam just for the single player shit? Seems like fun desu

EVO 2020 is going to be the same as this year but with SamSho and BBTag being replaced by KOFXV and Granblue, plus SCVI being replaced by pretty much any other remotely popular fighter that comes out between now and June 2020.

EVO 2021 is going to be the big shift since SFVI will likely drop late 2020/early 2021.

>SamSho will be replaced with KOFXV
While it likely won't maintain numbers, both games exist in a pretty different space. It is like dropping SF for Marvel. SamSho stands a good chance of placing itself as everyone's side game, not like you constantly need to lab stuff to stay on top.

Whens new Tekken?

Or maybe he had other plans for those dates and rejected it like a normal human being?

I've never played or now nothing about Granblue Fantasy but this game looks cool. I wish there was more fighting games with a fun, classic fantasy aesthetic. I hope this game is fun.

I love how Capcuks started acting like total hours viewed is what matters the most after last years EVO. I wonder what changed.....

retarded meleenigger spotted

why does other people playing different video games make you mad

based and redpilled. melee faggots should hang

>wake up
>kiss a man
>pray to my christian god to banish all demons
>run to my bathroom, punching the mirror with my right hand
>hopkick
>"forse ho esagerato"
>boot up PC and get ready for some hopkicks
>ask the Claudio discord if there's any new tech
>"obtain italian citizenship"
>start up Tekken 7
>spend 3 hours trying to perform the most optimal hopkick combos
>damn that iwr2 finisher!
>time for some ranked play
>select my favorite custom, the one with the mafioso suit and the pizza
>first match against an Eliza, a filthy demonic temptress
>I wont fall for such tricks
>start the first round with a hopkick, the best move in the game
>of course it lands, an uncalculated safe move
>make quick work of her, she couldn't stand up to my barrage of wr2s and hopkicks
>hey what is that red bar icon on the bottom right?
>whatever, it's time for my win animation
>"Niente male"
>for whatever reason she losequits, what a scrub
>he'll stay a blue rank forever, but soon I'll be in brawler where I rightfully belong
>that's enough ranked for today
>check out the claudio discord before I go to the local gay bar
>someone from another server complaining that Claudio hopkicked his punish
>eventually he gets tired of all the DAHs and leaves
>mamma mia

Any other homosexual italians ITT?

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Kustoms will be a nightmare to balance and need all new UI implemented. Plus a different selection of moves won't stop the neutral being ass. Every character is way to dependent on a couple of safe strings that move then in and everything else being dogshit. It is still same old MK but with less mixups. Everyone getting teleports won't solve that.

I think T7 has a couple years left in it, the question is if the next Tekken will try to be out before EVO'21 to match SF6 or not.

We'll probably get Guilty Gear Xth, a new Team Blue anime game, and a couple different SNK games releasing between now and then as well.

KoF XV is confirmed 2020 title

Yeah, that and maybe another game. Garou 2 rumors exist.

>EVO 2021 is going to be the big shift since SFVI will likely drop late 2020/early 2021.
Not going to hold my breath

Cygames is also more likely to cause a large shift with the money they can bring to the table.

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you still need maximum meter to use it and even then it only does about a fourth health at most

There doesn't really need to be a new Tekken. The scene is growing and tournaments have been consistently exciting.
Plus Tekken games tend to alternate between being good and being bad. A new Tekken game being released could really harm the scene if it ends up not being good.
I wouldn't mind TxSF though. I want to see how they'd implement Makoto or Dudley into the Tekken framework. Or any non-fireball character for that matter.

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>Should I pick up the cheapest one one on Steam just for the single player shit?
Which game?

Neither UNIst or SamSho (don't even think that is on steam) have amazing single player. UNIst has a great tutorial though

Different guy here, but I like SC's gameplay more than tekken's

>Undertale at first
based

>brand new game
>6th
lmaoing at Western fightan

If it's such a good casual game, then why is it universally despised by casuals everywhere for its gameplay?

>I want to see how they'd implement Dudley
But we already have Steve

I'm hoping that after T7 and SFV, Bamco finally puts out TvSF.
Or maybe I'll regret that wish.

>Boober & SoulCal still losing to Furriez
This makes me sad, and I want them to succeed so my schadenfreude for that shit game & its community can be complete.
At least Meleefags are still infinitely seething.

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It's like $6 or something right now, right? There really isn't a lot of single player content in UNIEL, just the arcade modes for characters, training, vs CPU and survivial I think. I wouldn't pay for it, if you're going to try it out I would suggest pirating and then if you like it just getting the newer version. It has all that stuff and mission mode, a tutorial plus the story. And new characters of course.

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He projects his autism onto other people

>the moment you realize you've made really bad life choices

>Markman
Do you mean Mr.Wiz? They're not the same person you know

It's not a good casual game, it's a good game to play casually. As in, it's not the kind of game you spend hundreds of hours in the lab and practicing techs and shit on.
Casuals don't like traditional fighting games period, that's why they are mostly drawn to MK and Smash.

BBTAG is not built for long time sustainability. The character roster is too dumbed down.

melee didn't even have the most views. it got cucked by Dragon Ball and Street fighter 5

I get that they're both boxers but they don't really play the same at all. Steve focuses on counter hits and Dudley focuses on whiff punishment (his roundhouse comes out in 5 frames and goes nowhere for a reason). The two concepts interact, but play out very differently.
Juicebox's video on footsies is really good at articulating this. Better than I ever could at least.

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They literally are best buddies and partners, why do you think EVO lineup gets announced with them? MVCI, SFV and DoA 6 never got Markman's attention, and look where we are

Why is there no GG?

Cause the design isn't that appealing to casuals. It is just right for people who want to feel like they are good without putting much effort in. Scrubs basically.

Yeah it's a shame. Sc6 is great and the only complaints are from babies who couldn't sidestep RE when it first came out. Tag is a simply fun, but they barely communicate with the fans so I can install lot of people dropping it.

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>meleefags are seething
>when they just had anywhere from 2-5 majors since the EVO announcements

If by meleefags you mean Hungrybox, sure. Everyone else pretty much moved on and will either enter for Smash Ultimate, go to Smashcon the following week, or both.

Does Dudley have any kicks? Because if not, they gonna feel very samey

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Dudley is okizeme: the character. Different would actually be an understatement.

>It's not a good casual game, it's a good game to play casually.
Correct.

>Casuals don't like traditional fighting games period, that's why they are mostly drawn to MK and Smash
Wrong. They like fighters. But the FGC are such dickriders they can't bear bring themselves to criticize flaws the games. So they make up all these wack excuses to make themselves feel better.
>fighters were always niche!
>fighters never had good graphics!
>most people aren't as intelligent and deep as us, that's why they can't take fighting games *cums all over himself*
All so they don't have to face the obvious: Namco, Capcom, SNK aren't as good as they used to be as far as what matters to casuals: GRAPHICS and CONTENT.

After the golden era, used to be the fgc said "it's not about the graphics, guys. it's the gameplay". But now each community shits on the other over graphics, they can't use that excuse anymore, so they just cop out and say casuals don't like fighters. Always an excuse.

That image is bullshit, stop spamming it you retarded smashbaby

4 years of virtually the same tittle, give it a rest and wait for the next GG. It's probably gonna be announced this year anyway

There is so much shit flinging on which fighting games classify as reddit that shit like this is a waste of a post.

If your taste is so good, then tell me what current/last gen fighter is good.

>Moments before Zain ended the streak

Could be interesting then, but hard to balance. Akuma can get a fucking 60% dmg combo off of the wrong choice on wakeup right now

Yeah.

Well, at least we're getting a S2. That's about all I can ask for from soulcal.

>being this delusional
You know why Melee is out? Because Nintendo doesn't want it there. From the begining it was clear Nintendo wanted to kill Melee, putting a bunch of things in Ultimate that would appeal to Meleefags. Nintendo wants some of that e-sports pie and Melee was on the way, having a divided community is no good for the e-sports part. Melee fags that weren't brought in to Ultimate are going to be squashed now, Nintendo made it pretty clear, it's either Ultimate or nothing

>tekken over shit fighter again

based

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How is he going to make money now

>DBFZ loses all steam without official tourneys
>melee is doing fine without EVO

support ur local games

Game hasn’t really gotten much support since Rev2. A lot of people are just waiting for the next game to come out since it’s confirmed to be in development.

Damn

Yeah, Melee is out because Nintendo sponsors Ultimate but not Melee.
But at the end of the day, if Ultimate competitive scene dies down, they're gonna take Melee over nothing.

I'm not trying to sound spiteful, but it's hard not to be when Melee was kicked for virtually no reason.

If nintindo had really squashed it melee majors would no longer exist as they would just revoke streaming rights and twitch would comply

Give up the victim complex and just realize everyone who is not a smelee fags hates smelee

that's what he's thinking

>nintindo sponsors ultimate

Wrong, unless you count the items on invitational they had this past year.

Go away smelee with your victim complex

>GG dead
>>dbfz dying

What happened?

No, it's not wrong. Nintendo obviously wants to advertise the game it still actually sells and they are an official EVO sponsor, it's only natural than given the choice, you'd pick Ultimate over Melee to not risk losing a high profile sponsor.

holy fuck

>Melee was kicked for virtually no reason
I can think of three justifiable reasons
1) Physically requires more space because the players demand CRTs.
2) CRTs lower the video quality of the stream forcing EVO to have to invest in equipment that can capture both analog signals at the highest quality
3) Ultimate made enough of a splash upon release that it gave EVO a good enough opportunity to cut Melee with the smallest backlash. the fact that is has the highest number of entrants out of all tourneys supports this

But Nintendo DOES sponsor Ultimate at EVO.

S T I N K Y D A Y

IT'S NOT FAIR IT WAS OUR TIME

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All of these reason also applied to previous EVOs where they weren't a problem. That's why I said "no reason", things that didn't use to be a barrier to entry suddenly are.

Arcsys and Bamco support, they wouldn't support Tekken 7 too by the way, they only did so, because DLC sold tons

No, they don't sponsor evo.

Smelee victim complex runs deep with this one.

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Never expected to see him saving EVO.

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Sauce?

>tfw you gave up on an engineering intern job just to become a hated man who plays a children's video game

Didn't spergs throw a hissy fit because custom characters "breaking" online or something?

>you are the only ones who care about mele
wow
is he saying melee fans prefer melee more than non-melee fans
what a fucking genius

Will Knee conquer Tekken once again?

>retarded release schedule kills any chance of it surviving after evo
SNK what the fuck

>missing the point this hard

This is why everyone hates you

I know the ones we got weren't goof, but I'd love to see a new 3D Fatal Fury.

It's Lil Majin's year

Only if Arslan doesn't show up

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your choice of words makes it sound as if players were blowing it out of proportions.
when a custom character allows to chain moves that the OG character can't normally chain, or a having one of your BnBs not working properly against certain custom characters then you know this shit needs to be fucking adressed

The game is already a sucess with preorders alone

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Neo Geo World Tour. Besides that, KoF XV comes out next year anyway.

Yes they do lmao
you can google this shit yknow

Didn't he graduate college?

who is this?

I did and there was nothing about it

Smeleefags btfo once again, take your paranoia elsewhere

God I hope it does. I know the datamine and all that, but I really do hope they go through with s2 and not change their minds because it’s not doing tekken numbers. Cause the characters that should be added is really all we need left. Mainly Setsuka, Lizardman and Hwang. Rock and Hilde will be good bonuses too.

The best case scenario is that they can make an sc7 and it gets a proper t7 treatment. Refine the shit out of everything, polish it to a 9th degree and actually give it the time and resources it needs cause the team does seem passionate about the series I just wish bamco themselves were. It’s clear rush of time and lack of budget makes me easier on the game’s faults that would be fixed by that. It’s impressive that sc6 cape put as good as it even did cause considering this situation I couldn’t see the game being able to come out better, I expected worse. People tend to be a lot harder on sc6 for whatever reason that I can’t figure out which most of them is petty shit. Like there’s definite shit to complain about, but these people treat it like it’s a fucking nrs game abomination sometimes. I just want sc to be able to flourish somewhat doesn’t need tekken numbers or anything, but hopefully sc7 if we do get it will be able to focus on keeping and growing the longevity of its community through solidifying the gameplay and online experience without sacrificing the casual audience completely.

Free crab tho

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Justin Wong of Melee

yeah but i feel like it’ll be dead in months

Smash isn't a fighting game

I feel like Chanel has to be due a win. Gotten close so many times.

boyos I think JDCR is back
with his Armor fucking King

sun tzu said that

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USA? Yeah, like always. Latin American and Asia? No

based

We need to see him place with AK. He didn’t make it into top 8 evo japan.

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Yeah, just like Chanel is back with his Julia, despite getting BTFO everytime he tries to meme people out with her

>Melee was kicked for virtually no reason
How fucking delusional are you people holy shit

give me a reason melee was kicked this year that didn't also apply to the previous years

Literally impossible in today's world of "FUCK SINGLE PLAYER CONTENT!" fighting games.

>muh nintendo boogeyman
If Nintendo truly wanted to kill Melee they would have revoked streaming rights for the game you retarded faggot. They don't give a shit about Melee or the competitive scene in general.

fox is top tier in ultimate too

Julia is top tier, it just takes time to build up all that matchup knowledge. She’s better than Alisa. Chanel just has more experience with Alisa in T7

unironically me

erron is an even worse problem because geras is fucking trash against him and is the only charcaters anywhere to him on the tie rlist

they tried that in 2013 retard
nintendo doesn’t want backlash but they also dont want to promote a game they arent making money off of, its that simple. Every other game at EVO has active developer support.

>that didn't also apply to the previous years
So youre saying it should have been kicked out a long time ago?

GG isn't that popular and FighterZ is shit to play and none of the DLC picks are worth picking the game back up

Dragonball Fighterz shouldn't be below MK11 and SamSho.

Soul Calibur 6 should be higher.

BBTAG got fucked because Arcsys was retarded with the late patch coming out this fucking month right before Evo. I haven't played BBTAG in ages because I'm waiting for this damn update so I can try new characters and laugh at Gordeau players.

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So how do i register? Do I need serious tournament trophies to join in?

What happened with DBFZ? I thought it was the BIGGEST THING in the story of fightans?

How the fuck do we stop these smash ultimate babbies from entering and getting primetime from actual fighting games? At least melee was fun to watch with chadbox crushing everyone, ultimate is olimar and snake out the ass with literal autists playing

he has a degree in chemical engineering

DBFZ sucks ass in that there’s barely any variation in how characters work and half the cast is never ever seem

>Dragonball Fighterz shouldn't be below MK11 and SamSho.
Yes it should, for gameplay, netcode and support reasons. You just don't release a game with shitty singleplayer content, shitty netcode, shitty balance, and basically no different playstyle and call it a day, just because it sold well.

I am saying what used to be fine in the past is suddenly warranting a kick - a change for no reason.

He's an engineer making 6 figures annually. Melee is a hobby for him.

>melee was fun
>chadbox
ohhh nooooooo why didnt they let my 17-year-old game stay in EVO
fuck mr. wiz and fuck evo and fuck fgc generally

>Dragonball Fighterz shouldn't be below MK11 and SamSho.
FighterZ shouldn't be there at all

>"So I noticed that there's no experience on your resume in the last five years. Care to explain?"
>"I quit my job to play competitive Melee"

lmao they didn't try shit. if they actually had tried, melee would have never made it into any of the last 6 evos you retarded faggot.

he was
he quitted all his job to be a melee pro

Still a better fighting game than MK11 and SamSho is just a meme title the people will have fun with but will soon grow tired of a month after Evo.

He dropped his job, he's basically fucked, since he has a hole of years without doing his job

how underage are you? The nintendo blocking melee was a big deal and the backlash made them stop

>At least melee was fun to watch
Gave yourself away smelee. Way happier to have Ultimate here over you

youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM

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its only been 4 years calm down. he will be back on his feet

He quit for like a year, but he's been back to working fulltime as an engineer for a while now.

>Still a better fighting game than MK11 and SamSho
>Don't actually say why, despite others claiming why it isn't
Flawless logic

It sold well because Dragon Ball.

That was years ago, he's back to working full time for a company as an engineer. He talks about balancing work and melee all the time on stream.

you dumb fucker

>"They were not only trying to shut down the stream, they were trying to shut down the event; the Smash portion of the event," Cuellar said, who explained that he had originally spoken with people from Nintendo who "didn't see a problem" with the event.

Anyone can enter, even if you've never played the games before, just google EVO 2019 registration. You gotta pay to enter though. Then you have to book your hotel and get your transportation to Vegas ready too.

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FighterZ, MK11, SamSho, and BBTAG, and Tr4.5h shouldn't be at EVO. That and it should be illegal to have SC tournaments.

There are three passable games at EVO this year, and only two of them are good.

Nintendo doesn't give a shit about Melee. You're giving yourself too much credit Meleegro

Thing is even though it doesn’t make money directly, mcrib woul fucking LOVE to have the attendance and views of melee.

That’s how bad Melee fucked up

Lmao

>Why is this game that was only hyped because of brand recognition and because it was made by the PlatinumGames of fighting games, despite not having character variation, different playstyle, singleplayer content besides shitty story mode, and having multiple Gokus, matches that take 5 minutes, no comeback mechanics, long blockstrings, no visible support from the company for almost 6 months. Died?
What's most impressive is that pic related is a better game, yes a literal sprite dump, is a better game somehow

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I literally said that they didn't to the point where they made no effort to keep it there because they make no money off of it, you retard. I’m explaining the decision.

He's washed up bro.

I've never understood the "everybody is the same" complaint. The major overlap is a general magic series that a good 20% of the cast can't even do. Half the cast has something unique about them and a good chunk of that amount is viable/used by top players, barring cases like Base Goku being fucking unplayable and the weird Fat Buu changes in the last patch.

I get the distaste for the pressure-heavy meta and the mediocre netcode and the boring story mode. It's just that one complaint that never made sense to me. I still like the game but it's fallen off some for me even though I like S2.

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Why even try to convince retards on Yea Forums?

I'll just wait until Evo when MK11 will be a shitshow with its terrible balance and tournament legal movesets and SamShow, while more entertaining, will be just a gimmick on the roster.

DBFZ isn't perfect by any stretch and games like UNist are way better, but it's better than garbage.

>Why even try to convince retards on Yea Forums?
Why is someone from Reddit here? Legit question

Fighting game tournaments are open to literally anybody willing to pay the entrance fee and always have been outside of explicit invitationals. That aspect is at its core and a huge reason why FGC will never go full e-Sports. There's been criticism of it from people into full-blown e-Sports for allowing "flukes" when upsets and rising stars from nowhere are the backbone of evolving metas.

starvingsquare

If they truly wanted to kill Melee they would have done so years ago. Melee not being this year at EVO has nothing to do with Nintendo. Mr Wizard simply hates you meleegroes and your retarded victim complex.

as a spectator, most of the shit looks borderline identical. Compared to something like umvc3 it's just dull to watch

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>UNIST
>way better

Both are Unga Bunga tier games. Blazblue and Guilty Gear died for this.

It's overblown because there are no broken custom-only combos that anyone knows about, and the existing cast already has different hitbox sizes. Like, are we also supposed to ban talim and astaroth because some combos don't work on them? And once you get out of babby ranks almost nobody is using custom-sized characters anyway.

And we're talking about online play here, it wouldn't be seriously competitive even if customs were completely removed because lag is a bigger issue than customs could ever be.

>Insulting Yea Forums means you aren't from here

No, I've been here too long to not know how terrible the opinions here are. Especially about fighting games. ESPECIALLY fighting games. Holy shit, this is probably the one genre that is just lost on this board for some reason.

Nintendo didnt “shut it down” this year, they just cared about ultimate and don’t care abour Melee, that’s what I’m saying. Mr. Wizard only wanted to put in games with active support, which is also why there was no bonus voted game

Blazblue died for BBTAG. It wouldn't have been there anyway.

Show me 2 seconds of zoning in DBFZ

>Hungry box
>Tokido

Why do these people go and get these advanced degrees just to play Vidya all day.

fpbp

That's good to know

I'm intensely butthurt about the PC delay though, I was planning to enter at EVO but now I can't.

to be good at fighting games you need to know someone else in real life that plays them too. You cant become a net play exclusive pubstomper which disqualifies all the friendless nerds on Yea Forums

That doesn't change the fact that anime fighters are now dead outside Japan.

Tokido is a mama's boy, that's it

>Unga Bunga
>Haha I said the thing

Hey, beat it kid.

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Capcom vs SNK 2 and Marvel vs Capcom 2 are both sprite dumps and are great games.

What is happening in this webm?

They announced an Asia pro tour so that's good at least. It sounds like a world tour is coming which would be amazing, SC is one of the precious few series where NA, EU, and Japan are roughly equal. International tournaments are so hype but we get to see them so rarely...

Unga Night wishes it was half as deep as Blazblue and Guilty Gear. Fuck off, subhuman.

a setup that punished phoenix's automatic 5 bar transformation that fchamp used as a crutch for a long time.

What's your argument? Why shouldn't you get a solid degree even if you want to play video games all day?

Except it had 30+ characters on launch

Ironically it's too late for this drop to kill melee since it already gained so much validation from coming back in 2013 onward that it can live without it with just the Smash.gg scene alone.

Fchimp got btfo with his crutch character.

UMvC3 is my favorite fighting game but I've watched, played, and labbed out enough DBFZ to know the differences, although at that point I can see what's different that most people just watching tournament footage don't pick up on because they aren't as in there.

I don't even know what my opinion is on DBFZ anymore. I like the game a lot, the cast is almost entirely fun to play as, I think it's a triumph of aesthetics in fighting games and I think S2 is a great step forward, but every time I think about the broad meta, the restrictive teambuilding, and especially when I compare it to UMvC3 outside of certain things like Sparking being much better than X-Factor, I feel like it falls shorter than I've cared to admit. I don't think it deserves to flop, but I don't think it deserves to take UNIST or SamSho's spotlight this year.

I guess at this point I'll just say I want DBFZ to have more entrants than MK11.

only an idiot would put all their eggs in one basket

>I've never understood the "everybody is the same" complaint.
Literally every match is the exact same thing regardless of team. Get someone into the corner, long as fuck blockstring, open them up, launched into air, air cancels, hard knockdown, meter burn.

Both games could've had 16 characters and would still be remembered today for their top tier gameplay. Muh Roster is just a reason to complain when the game is so goddamn bland you can't find anything to talk about.

Why the pausing though?

I want unist to pass sfv

mashed too hard

FChimp

Toei, or someone entangled with the right of DBZ, was shutting down tournaments for unspecified reasons nobody is allowed to talk about. Things are cool now but it caused a lot of tournament people to start working on other games.

The game is still pretty popular though. Gets regular play at WNF, AnimeIlluminati and presumably a bunch of lesser streaming events.

It will, you have my word

That wasn't my point, my point is that a game with less than 30 characters, that is basically a sprite dump, and had no money invested, has a better and well thought gameplay, than a """triple A""""" game from the same company, with the help of Bamco