Now that the dust has settled

whadaya thunk?

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He's nice

He's not very fun to play as
His stage is cool & the music is nice.

His moveset being largely other characters assets Frankensteined together doesn't give me much hope for the rest of DLC desu.

3.0.0 was a cool update, a bit better than expected. Joker as a fighter feels like a mishmash of everything and doesn't stand out to me personally. Mementos is a really stylish stage with dope music choices, and the remixes didn't suck which is a nice bonus. However, there's still bugs and numerous issues with content sharing. Specifically, crashes in arenas are quite common now.

I’m still pissed off at the censoring of Mass Destruction. That one line sounds so awkward it’s literally just a copy paste over

Yawn. When's pack 2?

E3. Unlikely to be announced before hand unless Nintendo was actually dumb enough to put in another Fire Emblem character.

He's the blandest nothing character ever and you can tell he was rushed because they have no intention of bringing him back.

He's OK but was absolutely not worth a third of a year of constant silence and blueballing. Sakurai put very little effort in making Joker standout in gameplay and instead focused on unique aesthetics surrounding him. Kind of a bummer that he really half-assed the concept of not just a Persona fighter but thus also the closest thing we'll ever get to a JoJo character (a shame since Sakurai is also a Jojofag).
The only way I can see an FE rep is if Sakurai picked one before he knew about the second TH delay, but if he does then it'll further brand him as a lying sack of fuck.

Not worth.

>Sakurai is a big fan of Fire Emblem
>Fire Emblem's representation in Smash is a horrendous case of quantity over quality in absolutely every respect
>Sakurai is a big fan of Persona
>Persona's representation in Smash is limited almost exclusively to Persona 5, and even then most of its content is based around its UI rather than the game itself and Joker isn't all that interesting mechanically
Why is he like this?

I have thought Persona was garbage since I played it on PSX and that hasn't changed at all, so all the millions of little touches this guy has are great for the people who like those bad games I guess.

Arsene shouldn't have been glued to his back
Arsene shouldn't have been the only persona

It seems he works better when he appreciates something from a historical perspective but isn't a turbosperg or super biased for it. Mega Man and Castlevania have the best third party representation in Smash, and I believe Sakurai wasn't super obsessive over those franchises.

Needed more p3 music

>Down B with Arsene out is another fucking counter
>Not even just a straight clone of Zelda's Phantom Down B

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>trying to play off Joker's dual reflector/counter as unique as if he didn't go out of his way to point this out for Palutena at E3

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I am still trash at the game

I think they had some kind of internal contest to see who could make him the most boring while still technically representing elements from persona/SMT. It's the only way I can rationalize them having dozens upon dozens of demons and spells to work with only to settle on a reskinned PK fire, a down B counter, and a limit break bar.

His stage is pretty fucking dope though so at least there's that.

Great moveset, poor character.
Shouldn't be here without a game on Switch.

But P5S is on switch

E3

We'll probably get Pack 2 and Pack 3 revealed at the same time.

>play as dark pit a lot
>everytime i play joker and he summons arsen, i attempt to do additional midair jumps because my brain subconsciously links the black wings to dark pit
am i retarded?

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>Hoped Sakurai would play up his wild card gimmick and have a bevy of personas to summon
>Just another boring character with an extended version of Cloud's limit break
Extremely disappointing.

I looked it up and arsene doesn't even learn tetrakarn'


what the fuck?

joker himself is the only bad part of 3.0.0 his stage and music is nice tho

smash isn't cannon

I'll play him more when they make his guns useful outside of just edgeguarding, it was fun using them when people didn't know what to expect from them

Fast character with stupidly long reach that can just rack up damage until you hit him enough so his Ganondorf stand pops out and buffs him into godhood. Unfun to fight against because any headway you make can be negated in an instant because his stand lasts forever and he has none of the drawbacks in that form that come with Ganondorf.
>B-but he's actually shit guys c'mon I main him it's true!
No, fuck you. Arsene needs to be nerfed in some way. Either the time limit reduced or increase how much damage it takes until it activates. As is the fights with him are skewed in his favor from the get go. At least with Lucario he has to be at kill percents before Aura activates. This guy just has to get hit like 3 times.

It could be that Joker being the last DLC character they chose and also wanted to push out first meant they took liberties with preexisting assets and that the rest of the DLC won't be like that.

Yes, but only because you play as Dark Pit.

The gun being useless is just an homage to the original game.

Really fun character, great stage and design.

Much better than that goddamn plant. Can't wait to see the rest of the DLC.

Plant was unironically better. The stage is great though.

This fucking fighter made it impossible for me to play any other fighter ive been playing joker for so fucking long now that ive got rusty

Not sure if it's my memory but it sometimes does a shit load of damage like 20+% if you land the downwards spray

He doesn't really learn Eiganon either. Personas can pretty much have whatever skills you want on them due to the game's flexibility. That's how people get things like God pixies that reflect everything and have some of the strongest skills in the game, despite pixie being a low level demon.

Don't like playing as him but there was clearly a lot of effort put in

its just a better sheik
that said hes pretty fun

at least hes not an anime swordsman

Because he's a fucking hack.

Look at Snake.

>Sakurai has Kirby “bias”
>it’s more like Super Star bias, because nearly every Kirby element present outside of some Spirits, musical tracks, and Kirby’s FS, everything is from the aforementioned game
>this is why King Dedede and Meta Knight are still advertised as being villains/antagonists, despite anyone that actually keeps up with Kirby knowing both of them are long over those days
>extra autism: Meta Knight’s Galaxia Darkness was actually made canon recently in Kirby: Planet Robobot, but Sakurai went ahead and changed MK’s FS despite the original being one of the most “to the point” in the first place
>Sakurai has Kid Icarus: Uprising “bias”
>best he does is two characters and a clone that doesn’t even need to be a clone, barely any music, and a selection of fuckawful stages
Listen I can appreciate the work he’s done, and I do genuinely enjoy each Smash when it releases, but it’s the little things like this that set me off. Apparently Sakurai likes Xenoblade 2. I actually hope he never gets a chance to “show the game some love”, because he definitely wouldn’t do it justice. I’ll take my music, jpegs, and Mii costume, and be happy with it.

Still no Banjo is what I think