I don't see the problem here. >services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other >dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system >profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release >sales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers
This just feels like such a fucking non-issue to me. Opening up a different launcher literally takes 10 seconds, and even if you want to close a previous launcher that's what, another 5?
I don't really give a shit which store you prefer but is literally every thread of this nature just consolewarriors desperately hoping to cause PC infighting? Because that's just sad.
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other Exactly how did you reach that conclusion? When did this happen when Origin appeared, or uPlay, or all the other stores? >dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system Yeah, right. >profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release Fucking how? >sales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers Publishers set prices, that includes sales. The only exception are third party resellers like Amazon. But they exist either way, so it's irrelevant.
You are delusional.
Logan Perry
Because I want all my shit on the same launcher I won't install Tim Sweeney's dogshit launcher because he decided to bribe devs with tencent money Offer me better prices and I might consider but until then kill yourself
Tyler Turner
>You are delusional. nah man, professional liars dont get hooked on their own shit. he knows he is talking bullshit, thats why he is using very obfuscating and meaningless corporate speak.
Ryder Perez
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other They don't, they just get exclusives just like the TV streaming services do. Want to see Stranger Things? Netflix. Want to see GoT? HBO. Want quality of service or cheaper subscription? Fuck you.
Caleb Rogers
your entire post is wishful thinking its actually quite hilarious
Caleb Morris
>this is what the free market actually believes
Jordan Evans
>Origin >uPlay And both of those are completely dead in the water, remaining flaccid in the face of Steams BBC.
Christian Jackson
It's a non issue if the launcher was good, I use other storefronts and just add the games I care about like SW2 from GOG to my steam launcher. I don't support the epic games store because fuck Tim Sweeny at this point trying to make up some bullshit like "we saving PC gaming" like bitch just say you want some fuckin money I don't care I thought you were a man of business but instead you just a little bitch. Frankly the exclusivity thing sucks a little but it truly shows me which devs are just greedy so it only hurts me as a future company. Most of the indie devs were like "I just wanted money nigga." And I respect that cuz I'd do the same. 4A was like "it was the publisher" and pretty much left it at that besides that one guy, so whatever I'll buy exodus in a year like I was gonna anyways. Then we get gearbox and Randy being like "Steam is a monopoly, epic is saving you" instead of being like "we like money nigga" and I just hate liars, and these threads do cause infighting but it's honestly mostly trolls because I think the people who genuinely use the EGS are fortniters so if anything it's keeping loser kids out of my CSGO lobbies
Logan Jones
*Consumer not company
Evan Diaz
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other When has this EVER happened in the video game industry? Fuck, when has it ever happened in the last 100 years in general?
Companies don't do this anymore. The entire concept of "competition" is dead and meaningless in nu-capitalism. Retailers don't compete for anything anymore because there are 6 billion of us and as long as video games are a relatively cheap consumable good, it is much easier to just carve out a whale-niche than try to compete. Yes, the big bleeding edge tech companies fight for majority but the concept of competition in the corprorate world as you describe it complete nonsense.
Cooper Wood
First year economics is a lie anyway
Zachary Baker
Ah the pajeet has just clocked in and begun his day for PooLoo marketing llc
Why wasn't epic happy doing there part in making good games and getting royalties for the Unreal engine, fortnite has probably taken dev time away from Unreal 6, they didn't need to compete with steam they could've worked together lol fortnite would've been even bigger if it released on steam also
Colton Hernandez
Yeah you already failed on the first point. Neither side is trying to one-up each other on anything related to quality. Epic's store is trying to compete with exclusives. Fuck quality, they don't even have basic shit like a shopping cart. Valve's big enough that it doesn't need to care about anything the competition's doing. They just keep doing their own thing like always. Sometimes this means improving the quality of their service, but that's something they were planning on anyway, not a response to competition.
On the second point, you missed that it's the publisher cut that Epic's raised, not dev. For smaller devs working directly with Epic this can be the same thing, which means hooray actual dev-cut actually went up. But for teams that have a publisher playing middleman between them and Epic, it's completely different. Same goes for Valve too, of course. It's just that Valve doesn't pretend to be a goodguy devfriend by sending slightly more money to publishers and demanding their competition does the same.
Easton Mitchell
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other You mean how it did with Origin? Yeah it's not a big deal now but the shit EA pulled with Battlefield is exactly the same as what epic is trying to pull with fortnite. More and more games are being held hostage and you are praising this as a good development? >dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system The fuck is that supposed to mean, nothing is stopping them from just using steam except greed and trying to milk more money out of consumers, don't think Epic Game Store is going to set the industry standard price down to 40 from 60 (they are actually saving even more money than that by cutting out physical retail but Gamestop threatening to not stock games unless they are sold for the same price digitally as physically and publishers going along with it because its more money for them is another story entirely) >profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release Is this from a sales pitch or something, what the actual fuck is any of this supposed to even mean, again there is NOTHING stopping Epic from even just making a web page, a full on client and DRM system is not needed for this, it's like saying you can have a sandwich but only if you let me kick you in the balls first, there is no reason to not just make the sandwich and skip the kick in the balls but big corporations are assholes so they kick you twice and give you half a sandwich. >ales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers As if, have fun browsing through 7 different retail clients as they will try to have sales at different times, or failing that have the exact same prices because if there is anything big publishers hate more than consumer rights it's actual competition.
The core of the issue is that Epic chose the greediest and most consumer unfriendly way to go about this.
Cameron Lewis
>dev-cut goes up Publisher cut goes up, which to be 100% fair is what they are for, they "publish" a game in exchange for a cut of the profits from sales. That being said anything above a 1% cut for the publishers in the current digital market is overkill because the ONLY thing a publisher is useful for is getting Steam to fasttrack you through your application, and that is just reliant on a track record, one dude living in his moms basement making curator guides for Steam is doing all the work a modern day publisher has to do for around 0.000000000000001% of the cost.
But hey, keep making your own services that are house on their own servers (which cost money) and then run active development on the store (costs money) and need a customer support staff (yeah it's always shit but its still there and costs money). Publishers keep spending more and more money to try and become bigger not realizing that the main advantage of DIGITAL distribution is the fact that you can afford to hire less people rather than wasting a ton of money on more people making more shit that nobody asks for or wants.
Julian Butler
>Publisher cut goes up, which to be 100% fair is what they are for, they "publish" a game in exchange for a cut of the profits from sales. >That being said anything above a 1% cut for the publishers in the current digital market is overkill because the ONLY thing a publisher is useful for is getting Steam to fasttrack you through your application, and that is just reliant on a track record, one dude living in his moms basement making curator guides for Steam is doing all the work a modern day publisher has to do for around 0.000000000000001% of the cost. Ever heard of advertisement?
wait what the shit is epic launcher looking at steam files for
Xavier Davis
>Ever heard of advertisement? Yeah because that's something thats flipping relevant these days.
Website ads go through intermediaries so cutting out the publisher is a good thing Physical ads have no impact on sales when compared to steam ads/streamers/youtubers/web page ads and are only really relevant for the biggest release titles, fuck sake even fortnite, the game they are launching this whole service off of didn't get popular because of classical advertisments, those showed up later once they had dosh to spare.
Keep trying to justify why we need to pay for 500 people the vast majority of who's job is made irrelevant by a dude sending out CD keys for popular streamers.
Cameron Jones
>they don't even have basic shit like a shopping cart. they probably leave it out on purpose. a shopping cart makes it easier for the customer to see how much they are purchasing and how much it costs and can lead to them thinking twice about their purchase.
Leo Bennett
Because chink kike bugmen are not trustworthy.
Charles Thomas
Worst thing it's that it looks at files that are system specific, files that are not even sent back to steam. Data mining in all honesty
how is epic store diffrent? the fortine flash in the pan is over.
Austin Barnes
Nintendo vs Sega. Dota 2 vs League of Legends Fortnite vs Pubg vs DayZ vs H1Z1
Landon Roberts
> you missed that it's the publisher cut that Epic's raised, not dev
Why does everyone on Yea Forums think publishers get 100% of the profits from sales?
Jordan Evans
>h-h-higher cut means cheaper and better games what a sack of shit EA escaped Valve's ""tyranny"", so did Ubisoft (semi- escape) so did Activision with BO4 and D2, and also Bethesda briefly are games any cheaper now? nope, still $60, are games cheaper on EGS? nope, still the same only two exceptions 1. Metro Exodus got $10 price cut in SOME regions of the world solely because the controversy was massive 2. WWZ got $5 price cut thats all about it
besides, weren't cheaper games already a thing? GMG, Fanatical, Gamesplanet etc... already offered many games such as DMC5, AC7, MK11, RE2 etc.. for like $10-15 cheaper than Steam anyway, why not just get it from there? is your steam activity feed "user bought x games pls upbote" that important? the fact that some of you care more about how much a dev earns rather than your own consumer convenience is baffling, talking to you is pointless
>>services improve in quality Until Steam and EGS provide DRM free offline installers then no the service has not improved in any appreciable manner. I'm not using a game rental service.
Jayden Evans
>same filename as previous same loads of posts >same hash Wait for him to post a fuckton of his other battle pics. Pathetic.
In all fairness steam does have an offline mode, and has for years before any "competition" came around something Origin and le ebin gamer store fail to have now, at best it's nothing and at worst it will encourage valve to get rid of what we already have because apparently everyone else is too dumb to see a hole in the market when people are screaming at them that it exists
Michael Ward
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other epic doesn't offer any services >dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system publisher cut goes up >profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release exclusivity cancer is not wider >sales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers what sales??? epic has none. stop trying to hardsell this shitty fucking store every god damn day here when it offers literally nothing to consumers except BUY HERE OR ELSE. fuck right off.
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other Epic and Deep Silver literally jacked up Metro Exodus's price to $70-$90 depending on where you live. It's $83 for for me.
Levi Gomez
I see few problems >exclusivity hurts customers and is a dick move >customers are out of equation in here, they compete on publisher level.
Tldr both are fucking us in the ass, and y'all argue that one of the inserts just the tip. Still gay.
Problem with anything positive you could say about EGS is it's a whole bunch of maybes and possibles. Not to mention
>Tencent would need 51% to do anything isn't how it works. Besides, if EGS does badly it's a perfect opportunity for Tencent to swoop in and rescue them. For higher percentage, of course.
Wyatt Howard
Gee, it's almost as if releasing shit games is a bad strategy. >downloaded Origin for fucking Mass Effect Inquisition and Dragon Age Andromeda >both games were so fucking terrible I haven't touched Origin ever again
Aiden Ramirez
>Metro Exodus got $10 price cut in SOME regions of the world solely because the controversy was massive In the US and a few parts of Europe. And to compensate for that loss, they increased the price in other parts of Europe and most of Asia.
Luis Hernandez
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other Hasnt happened at all. Epic won't even have a shopping cart for their store for months, much less other basic features, so they clearly aren't making a real attempt to improve beyond getting the same baseline as everyone else. And steam literally hasn't even acknowledged Epic's existence outside that one time the Epic Launcher was caught digging through people's Steam files.
Evan Barnes
It's not even that impressive a price cut, I'm pretty sure if it had a steam release you can get it for $45 on legit 3rd party sites.
Robert Taylor
33 euros is the cheapest CD key I could find so it's roughly the same as most releases.
Thomas Ramirez
people also say "look at steam from ten years ago" as if that matters. epic is competing with steam as is right NOW.
>Because I want all my shit on the same launcher You are the problem.
Aaron Hall
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other Epic is not trying to be better.
>dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system Publishers are not devs
>profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release "wider option of release" ????
>sales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers Epic increases costs for consumers retard
FUCK OFF SHILL
Austin Reyes
DAILY REMINDER THAT CHINK SHILLS TRY TO FRAME IT AS EPIC VS STEAM No. This is not epic vs steam war, it's epic vs the industry and consumers. I use gog. Fuck epic and fuck the chinks.
Oliver King
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other Literally when does this happen? I advise you to go to an econ 101 class to learn what competition means and how it doesn't work this way at all
David Clark
I will never even install that awful epic thing
Anthony Walker
Not him but I feel the same way so fuck you.
My convenience is paramount. I’m not gonna fracture my library because Sweeney decided he wanted in on the market-maker game even though he has no fucking idea how to make and build a goddamn launcher or library manager.
Steam is the tool that I use to manage and navigate my library of PC games. Until someone develops a better tool for that job, I will continue to use it for that purpose. Therefore, any game which REQUIRES me to use a different, inferior tool for that job, thus putting that one single game outside of my library, is a game not worth buying. I’d rather just pirate it.
Jaxon Wright
>Services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other >Securing exclusivity deals improves the service
You don't seriously count having exclusive titles as a positive for the platform itself, right?
Literally none of the benefits you've mentioned have happened
Aiden Watson
>profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release
Yeah, so many choices as to what platform to release on. If only one platform didn't make deals so certain games only get released on their platform.
Brody Martin
>>dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system >>sales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers uhh it's PUBLISHERS, not DEVS. Stop this horrible meme. The one who profits from this is Shlomo Shekelberg, while devs are working 24/7 for the same wage because corporate culture
Jordan Sanchez
cheaper doesn't necessarily reflect the price you pay at the checkout. cheaper also could mean more bang for your buck. it could mean riskier projects being taken on or more resources being expended during development. i don't play any of those big publisher games so i am not saying it applies to them. but the reality is steam and epic are very different platforms. EGS just seems like a bare bones place to sell game keys with a decent name behind it. (eg. not itch.io)
Anthony Garcia
developers throw publishers under the bus just like musicians throw ticketmaster under the bus. they do it to save face while raking in the big buckaroos.
Xavier Morris
It's hilarious that you think musicians are making more money they ticketmaster
Chase Bennett
>the fact that some of you care more about how much a dev earns rather than your own consumer convenience is baffling It’s honestly not THAT baffling, in a market where piracy is an easy and convenient option, a lot of people pay money for games anyway (often, even after pirating them) to “support the devs” so it’s not like there isn’t a certain low-level pulse of whether or not a good game deserves to earn more money.
Tyler Barnes
You are the problem because you want a launcher at all. Your acceptance of Steam is what has lead us to this point with numerous launchers with numerous exclusive games.
Justin Reed
How much is tim paying you, seriously
Christopher Peterson
I think it’s crazy that he chose ticketmaster for his analogy when the musician/record-label analogy is an almost perfect parallel to the publisher/developer analogy. What a weird time to be alive, now that basically nobody buys recorded music at all anymore.
David Green
I mean, Tim Sweeney also thinks he's competing against Steam from 10 years ago, and thinks Steam only carries Valve's own games.
ticketmaster has a set fee structure per venue. when you see the higher than normal fees thats actually going to performers they do it so they can keep ticket face value low while still charging more and ticketmaster takes the heat for it.
Camden Torres
Sorry steam was first and its enough.
I'm not going to be downloading some shitty launcher for every game that comes out.
If its not on steam it doesn't exist.
Liam Scott
Devs get a set amount specified in their contract with the publisher, anything extra gets taken by the publisher
Alexander Murphy
>I’d rather just pirate it. This is one nice thing about PC gaming, in theory. PC game companies have to essentially compete with the fact that people can get their games for free, so they have to give SOME incentive for people to actually pay for games. Something Steam managed to do fine with, even in markets where they were told not to go to because everyone there is just pirate scum.
Meanwhile, Epic is doing their damn best to drive people back to piracy, after they previously ragequitting the PC gaming scene after blaming rampant piracy for their failures.
Cooper Flores
I’d use Steam (or something else like it) even if it wasn’t a storefront. Fight me. Library management is way better than a fuckload of loose folders and desktop icons.
Fuck me your computer must be a mess. Do you not use library management software for your music or movies? Do you not have a central tool (even if it’s something lightweight like Foobar) that you open to browse, sort, and use your music? Are you seriously bumping through Windows Explorer like a dipshit looking for MP3 files to click on?
It’s a shame that Steam was the first real tool for this job, because it did kind of rope me in. Steam iTunes’d me, now I’m using a storefront as a library manager. But it’s still a good library manager, it could be better but it offers a lot of functionality and convenience.
I am not shilling for epic. I am just sick of these whiney game devs who are sitting in their silicon towers bitching about their compensation acting like they don't mutually benefit from publishing agreements.
Carter Martin
>developers are raking in the big bucks >publishers are poor and mistreated Im actually speechless at how utterly retarded what you just said was.
I see the problem as clear as can be. Both are garbage.
Gabriel King
Metro Exodus was actually MORE expensive for me on EGS
David Foster
DESU it saved me from impulse buying EA trash like Battlefront 2 more than a number of times.
Charles Lewis
Library management is different from a launcher that's required to run in order to do the absolutely simple task of launching video games.
If I want to launch a game, I open my start menu and start typing the name of the game. It's much faster than waiting for some dogshit program like Steam to open up so that I can play the game.
You're a cuck and you're defending being a cuck. You accepted Steam and in so doing you allowed the PC market to become consolized. You are everything wrong with PC gaming.
Nathaniel Brown
nice strawman. these onions boys on the left coast will have you believe they are the same as these indie nobodies who go home and work on their game after working a shitty 40 hr job to make ends meet funding out of their own pocket.
Dylan Martin
>developers throw publishers under the bus >while Take Two and Deep Silver have been raking in millions in Epic bribes while Obsidian and Gearbox are taking all the flack Randy Randy Bobandy is literally begging people not to boycott.
Dominic Wilson
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other >STORE EXCLUSIVES Already fucked up. Kill yourself.
Evan Reed
Don't even bother, it's just seething anti-Steamfags from the mid-2000s that haven't bought a game in years that unironically support anything that goes against Steam.
Jayden Gonzalez
i WILL NEVER USE EPIC STEAM IS KING!
Brayden Perry
Unless the dev in question is indie, they generally don't. They get paid a salary to work on a game until it's done and released, and then fired once it's done so the company doesn't have to keep paying them. Publishers are the ones who benefit from the big money deals unless you buy the trickle down economics meme, in which case I'm having a good chuckle at your expense.
Nathaniel Torres
>Library management is different from a launcher that's required to run in order to do the absolutely simple task of launching video games. This is true, and it’s why I don’t play anything that requires Origin, UPlay, or EGS.
I don’t notice the fact that Steam has to be open to launch certain games because Steam is already open when I go to launch those games. That’s not an inconvenience for me. Steam is already open 24/7 on my desktop, I never close it because it updates my games in the background.
If you had a tool besides Steam that acted as your launcher/library tool, I can see why you would be frustrated about certain games demanding Steam be open in the background in order to run. But even faced with that problem, adding a DIFFERENT launcher for certain games isn’t doing anything to make that problem better, only worse. Two cancers is still worse than one.
Like I said, Steam iTunes’d me. It got my dumb ass early enough on that now, having parts of my library locked into it is something I don’t even notice. I still have as many if not more non-Steam titles as Steam titles launching through Steam, but those games that do require Steamworks to function I don’t notice being forced to open it.
Easton Lewis
low level workers being temp doesn't change the fact the senior developers have equity in the company.
not him but, i have no problem supporting developers that actually deserve it for people who want to do so, just buy the game from their own website remember 3 years ago when some people were encouraging others to buy No Man's Sky from the developers website instead of Steam to get all of the money, just do that, steam keys are already free, Valve only takes a cut when you buy a game directly through Steam its hilarious when you think about it for a second, Valve beats Epic even in the thing they've been preaching about for 5 months now
I had epic for UT, once I saw what a faggot Tim is and how disgusting the chink shills are (like op) I uninstalled it.
Isaac Hall
>and it’s why I don’t play anything that requires Origin, UPlay, or EGS. Yet you make an exception for Steam. There's literally zero difference between it and Origin, UPlay, and EGS. You don't dispute the fact that you're a cuck and a cock sucking corporate shill.
As such, you have absolutely zero right to complain since you contributed to creating this problem.
Henry Parker
>the fact that some of you care more about how much a dev earns rather than your own consumer convenience is baffling More baffling is the fact that these dumb faggots thinks the actual devs earn more on epic. What really happens is that publishers sign exclusivity, earn tons of money, no one buys the game on epic (the part the devs actually earn from) and the studio earn jack shit.
Parker Torres
Thank you OP for reminding me I needed to uninstall epic when I get home. Been wanting to do this for a while now.
Eli Young
None of that shit is true. The only thing that will result is consumers getting fucked.
Elijah Jones
do you feel ok
Gabriel James
run AV and malware scan just in case
Blake Ross
The real root of your shitty argument is that you're a person who's arguing for a tool for library management as if it saves you time and convenience, yet you're playing fucking videogames and posting on Yea Forums. Your time and convenience is the least of anyone's concerns because you don't actually value your own time.
Fuck you and everyone else who acts like their time is valuable but doesn't back that up with their actions and decisions
Jason Ortiz
>You don't dispute the fact that you're a cuck and a cock sucking corporate shill. Said the shill cuck while sucking a Chinese corporate.
Joshua Russell
he is low on social credit for his daily ration of dog meat.
Leo Collins
>Yet you make an exception for Steam It’s already the software I use. It’s not like I wink at it when Steam does it, Steam is already the platform I use for launching all my games because of the controller rebinding interface. I use Steam to launch all my games; most of the games I have on Steam aren’t even games sold on Steam. Steam doesn’t boot up in the background when I go to play a game because I have it open anyway whenever I’m play a game, period. That was my choice.
It will continue to be my choice until a better tool for the job appears, at which point I’ll probably develop a resentment for Steam just like you have.
Evan Bailey
I can't, epic disabled all my AVs and locked me without admin privileges. But it's ok Tim said it's to help me import my friends list from GoG :^)
Aaron Russell
You only complained because you only saw that as a problem when it already happened in the first place
Carter Morales
>library management as if it saves you time It doesn’t, in any circumstance. Grooming my media library is something I do when I’m bored; put on the TV and kill an hour cleaning up tags and such. It’s like whittling or knitting. Idle task. But it consumes a lot of time.
Library management isn’t faster, it creates a more pleasant experience. In much the same way that leaving your shit wherever it falls on the floor of your house is faster and more expedient than being clean and organized.
Austin Long
$1 has been deposited to your Epic Store shill account.
Lincoln Jenkins
>you occasionally play vidya >therefore you don't value your time and it's ok to waste it So if you sometimes eat a cheeseburger or other unhealthy food, does it mean you don't value your health and therefore should not complain if I literally inject you with poison?
Jeremiah Rodriguez
>0.0001 social credits has been deposited to your Epic Store shill account. Ftfy
Hudson Peterson
>food analogy his argument is stupid but come on you can do better than that
Bentley Ramirez
That's nice and all but I don't get the lower prices for epic store since I'm not a US citizen and they even charge me transaction fees on top which is fucking stupid
William Powell
The food analogy is intentional to show you how little respect I have for your retarded comment I was mocking. Replace cheeseburger with literally any other unhealthy activity and go kys.
>I've always wondered what the social credits stuff is but I'm afraid of finding out just how backwards Asian countries can get So watch the black mirror episode instead. Just remember instead of being set up in a western utopia, imagine everything is a polluted third world shithole where people eat dogs and being eaten by escalators.
Sebastian Long
When Origin showed up, Steam went and scurried to overhaul their Support system. Within a year, they had made a really good one, all just to kill the meme that theirs suck and Origin's doesn't (literally the only thing Origin had going for them). If Epic Games continues this path, Steam will soon be delivering free games every month. I, for one, like that future.
Camden Clark
>>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other but the epic store is worse in every way they're clearly not trying to "one-up" steam by providing better service
Matthew Howard
You first need that epic will do something better. So far there's not a single thing in which epic are better than steam.
Asher Hill
>If Epic Games continues this path, Steam will soon be delivering free games every month That shit is not why anyone uses EGS.
What will happen is Valve will have to start buying exclusives. That's a bad future. That's the worst possible future. Exclusivity wars will be a shitshow. That's what Epic is competing with and that's what Epic is inviting.
Joshua Smith
Steam lets humble bumble and other companies give away games for free
Jackson Hall
I like steam and all but I don't need library management for anything else because an entire movie fits in a single MP4 or AVI, so I just use windows Explorer and make my own folders to sort things by type and genre, tho I have all my Mp3s in a folder titled "tunes" and just choose the song, tho I did like iTunes back in my ipod Nano days
Luke Jackson
That and itunes is full of bloat
Adam Carter
This. I hope gabe won't turn up to be as faggot as epic but desu if idiots will flock to epic and leave him no choice but to join the exclusivity war, I wouldn't blame him.
Nicholas Butler
>If Epic Games continues this path, Steam will soon be delivering free games every month. I, for one, like that future.
basically you want free shit like rest of the garbage and damn the future.
Get a job and have sex
Grayson Foster
Oh my God get THE HELL OUTOF HERE RESETERA YOU HAVE SHITTED UP Yea Forums ENOUGH WITH YOUR FALSE FLAGS KILL YOURSELF THIS IS NOT GAME DISCUSSION THIS IS MAKING THIS PLACE SHITTIER LIKE AN INDIAN ON A STREET
Steam let humble bundle give STEAM games free. It'ss only a problem with Epic because they're giving non-steam ones, and people are dumb and don't seem to count HB games as steam games.
Isaiah Harris
>I don't need library management for anything else because an entire movie fits in a single MP4 or AVI, so I just use windows Explorer and make my own folders to sort things by type and genre That sounds abysmal, but you do you.
Actually in terms of sorting, Steam really could use some work, I do wish there was a way to generate dynamic hierarchies like Rockbox allows (e.g. allow me to place games in multiple categories or use tags, and then filter by tags). Steam's storefront allows a lot of this, but it doesn't really allow library sorting/browsing in the same way, which is a bummer.
I wish I could have Steam show me all the action-adventure games I haven't played in at least 12 months, and then hit a button to play one at random. Something like that. The real reason I like Steam as a library tool is not because it lets me filter data better (it's as good or better than all the competition but it's not exactly top-tier in terms of what's possible), it's because the controller rebinding interface is terrific. And, when games support it, so is Steamworks. The extent to which I can eliminate a bunch of external parallel programs and manage everything through the game's profile page on Steam is nice, and is getting nicer.
Lucas Hernandez
Valve already buy exclusives for VR but specify that they must not be exclusive, in effect paying for inclusivity
Nathan Gonzalez
Hey, at least I'm open about it. You on the other hand, pirate your gaming, pirate your anime and pirate your movies and pretend to be above the rest when you still focus on sex as an achievement like the virgin you are.
Wyatt Smith
Have sex
Noah Foster
Their claim is that they have a feature where you can import your friends list from Steam into Epic, so the program preloads the list before you actually tell it to import and the data is not sent back to Epic until you tell it to import them. Since this claim can only really be verified by looking at source code or analyzing all the packets sent from the Epic launcher, it's a claim that's difficult to verify.
In fairness to Epic, the real problem is that Windows permissions are stuck in the 90s and they give users no way to tailor executable permissions rather than user permissions. If we could make it so executables only have full control over their own folder and cannot access any others by default it would stop a lot of spyware like the Epic launcher.
Grayson Moore
>The system has been used to already block nine million people with "low scores" from purchasing domestic flights. While still in the preliminary stages, the system has been used to ban people and their children from certain schools, prevent low scorers from renting hotels, using credit cards, and blacklist individuals from being able to procure employment. The system has also been used to rate individuals on their internet habits (excessive online gaming reduces one's score), personal shopping habits, and a variety of other personal and wholly innocuous acts that have no impact on the wider community. It's always nice to be reminded my lame 3rd world country isn't as insane as China/Korea etc
a lot of these "pro-consumer" vidya grifters like yongyea and jim sterling are getting people to believe they can just demand anything they want so long as they call their position "pro-consumer."
Cooper Watson
Corretion. A brainlet virgin. Listen closely, you minority, cuz I will only say it once more. Sex is incredibly easy to come by, and it does absolutely nothing to improve or change people. You treating as something special just shows how badly you wish you had it.
Brandon Edwards
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other Epic is not trying to compete in quality. They are just bribing developers for exclusives.
>dev-cut goes up resulting in more games being made and more existing games being ported to the system IIRC they have aknowledged that their cut is not self-sustainable and they are only doing it to buy market share while they are swimming in Fortnite money.
>profitability of PC gaming is enhanced thanks to wider option of release >sales get more and more extreme that increases sold copies for devs and decreases costs for consumers These don't really make sense. The market is not increased by having more sellers.
Matthew Foster
Have sex
Carson Bell
Pirate fag here they are all terrible I'm sick of all these walled gardens Sick of having 10 different fucking launchers
Elijah Martinez
>(excessive online gaming reduces one's score) China forcefully curing video game autism.
Blake Thompson
>mentality of a console fag >companies fight downgrading the product in the process splitting budget into shitload of projects to appeal to wider audience instead of making one good product that combines gameplay story and graphics This is unironically what consoles did to gaming market. Bunch of retards compete against eachother trashing good projects cause they wouldn't appeal to mass audience so they instead constantly spew out garbage tier flavor of the month games.
Ayden Hill
Nah you fortnite dancing faggot, I tend to buy stuff instead of stealing daddy credit card for V-bucks so you can spend it on stupid shit and onions.
But I won't deny that I pirate games, music or movies. I just buy them when I see them either cheap or/and have enough funds for it and it isn't jumping though literal hoops.
Stay in school kiddo.
>rest when you still focus on sex as an achievement like the virgin you are.
I'm already better than you, kneel before me, court jester!
And are you a tranny by any chance? If that's the case, you will always be a virgin cause you chopped your dick of before punching the V-card.
As funny as calling that guy a broke niggas is. Free games serve as advertisement and grow publicity, they gave out Metro 2033 for free right before last light came out for example. And they've been giving out free games forever tho it's always been the publishers or Dev never the storefront buying and "gifting" to the player. Theres probably like 30 games in my steam library that were free and I probably wouldn't of bought most if they weren't free. Favorite game I got ever for free would've been fallout 1 when GOG first started
Josiah Phillips
No arguments from me. Free weekends/games are great in order to find interesting games. Have found couple of them thanks to it.
His entire shtick seemed to be "FREE STUFF REE", hence I got annoyed by it.
Ethan Taylor
>services improve in quality thanks to both companies trying to one-up each other But Epic doesn't want to improve its services, it wants to bribe publishers for exclusives so that you have no choice but to use their store if you want to play certain games, all while the actual service they provide is still garbage.
Samuel Bailey
You mean the paid steam exclusive future aka worst timeline. Steam should know that if it's just free games pirates can already do that.
Robert Bennett
I think steam has enough raging fanboys as a direct result of Epic shills that they don't need steam exclusives because a dev choosing to put their game on all clients but epic speaks the loudest at the moment and steam fanboys while hilarious cannot be stupid enough to not see the hypocrisy in that idea
Joshua James
>implying steam has done anything in retaliation or that they need to >this is not how it works, you have no clue what you’re talking about >profitability has only gone down due to EGS creating a split in the PC community by buying exclusives and forcing people to use their shit launcher in order to play those games >sales have nothing to do with the companies and would happen regardless based on how many units the creators wanted to move Keep your disingenuous drivel to yourself, faggot.
