Valve index costs 1000 dollarydoos

It doesn't need to be tethered to any device, and it also has full motion 6dof capability (you have hand presence and can move around)
Basically the first device that can do all this in one. Graphics take a beating though (Not resolution wise) but most VR games were already shit graphically.

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no other device was wireless?

Oculus Rift has wires, same with the HTC Vive and Valve Index.

The Quest is also able to track the position of the user's body using the headset alone, compare this to the HTC Vive (considered the best in the business in regards to body tracking) needing multiple cameras positioned around the user's play-area to register leg or body movement.

The Quest and Index aren't even gunning for the same market. The Quest is cool for what it'll do to the accessibility of more fully featured VR, meanwhile the Index is neat for how it's pushing forward the high end space.

Does the Quest do body presence? I haven't heard anybody mention it. As for with the Vive, you do it with additional trackers on the person, not 'cameras around the play area'.

>son back in my day products had to be better to be pirchased, not just another copy
Sounds like good times. These ain't good times.
For all we know Facebook is willing to sell at a loss just to force their competitors out of the market. A lot of these Silicon Valley companies are always running at a loss just for the sake of establishing their position in the market.

but i was just told by another member here that the valve vr is wireless? what is quest? not the same?

>Graphics take a beating though (Not resolution wise) but most VR games were already shit graphically.
As long as it can run VRChat, Longbow, Gorn and maybe Sword and Sorcery, I don't really care.

As I said before, the only devices with "wireless" are those glorified phone-holders you slot your smartphone into before booting up some super-basic game or tech demo.

ok but i was just told by another forum member that only quest is wireless, is quest not valve? a

>vrchat
not happening as games have to be converted to mega low poly to work, which vrchat is the opposite of.

>As for with the Vive, you do it with additional trackers on the person, not 'cameras around the play area'.
I'm retarded and it's 4:32 AM here, I'm sorry.

Only Quest is wireless, and Quest is not Valve. The Index is Valve. The Quest is Oculus.

The Quest is a standalone headset with a smartphone SOC inside it, so it's a standalone device. It's wireless by virtue of the processing being done on-board. The Rift, Vive and Index, all depend on a PC they a tethered to doing the rendering. The Rift and Vive both have aftermarket wireless solutions of varying quality and so far, nothing on the Index.
Oculus/Facebook make the Rift, Rift S and Quest. HTC makes the Vive/Vive Pro. Valve makes the Index.
In all fairness to your 4 am brain, some people do use Kinects to provide basic body position data. Which is camera-based. Not best practice though.

so then why am i being told valve is wireless? i asked what is new about the valve vr

PC VR chat models are as unoptimised as you can fucking get. You can make good shit with low poly if you aren't a retard.

While true, whos gonna redo every model/all the custom models being added into vr chat daily?

Vavle index is not wireless.
It's attached to your PC with a long cable, plus you need 2 sensor stations around the room for tracking. It's basically just the HTC Vive but polished to a sheen and with non-shit controllers. All for the low price of 1000 smackaroonies.

Can I play porn games or run vr porn programs in the quest?

>tfw I'm actually tempted to buy the Index

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People who want to use their models on the Quest? This shits all community made.

LISTEN SON I SAID WHATS NEW I AINT BUYING THIS SHIT IF ITS THE AAME AS THE OCULUS RIFT AND VIVE AND WHATEVER YHR FUCK

>oculus quest would be perfect for porn games like this
>locked down to oculus store means no porn games nor video experience
awesome

Then don't.
Because the index pretty much is the same.

alright son, you're a good kid, arent the other ones cheap? why buy this one for 10000?

Oh.. Lol, wow. I thought I could not care less about vr. I was wrong

It's basically Vive Pro but with better FoV and up to 144Hz displays instead of 90. Plus the controllers track finger movements. Neat gimmicks, but hardly worth $1,000 compared to the Vive's comparatively sensible $500.

>Porn games
You know you can side load shit.
Actual porn games on PC are shit anyway, just stick to VR180 videos.

I really don't like the controller design for the quest. The circles being above your hand look like they're going to get even more in the way than they do already. At least it'll protect my hand now when I accidentally punch my wall or computer.

Never mind the fact there are intentionally unoptimized characters for VR Chat that are designed to lag the game, from what I hear.
Also, if VRChat makes it to Quest, they'll drop the modding, in order to be "politically correct". Since we all know people will play as nude anime girl. I mean, it's Facebook, they'll almost certainly take the easier and safer route.

It's a high end PC headset that hooks up to the PC. No word on wireless. There will probably be an add-on for the Valve Index, but it's speculation.

The HTC Vive has a wireless add-on. But keep in mind that's a Valve-HTC joint project, and it's more an HTC thing in practice. Valve Index is entirely Valve.

To clarify, Facebook is focusing on mass-market ease of use, and products that don't require a PC or phone. Facebook does some PC stuff with their Rift line, but Quest and Go (all-in-one) is their main priority. Shoot down competitors early kind of thing.

Valve are focusing on high end PC stuff.

Microsoft seem to be somewhere in between. Primarily doing PCVR stuff, but rumored to be targeting Xbox. They operate with reference models, much like Nvida does with their cards. So you'd have an MSI GTX 960, or an Asus manufactured one with slightly different specs. That's what Microsoft is doing with Mixed Reality (which is really just PC VR and Hololens under one branding).

Hopefully this clarified the current state of VR (a little, there's other players doing cool things).

Betamax/Minidisc the VR headset.

>why buy this one for 10000?
Brute force high end specs so you get a window of what next gen looks like. Mainly targeting devs and super enthusiasts, hence the price. Also, the controller is much better. You can physically let go and grab things as opposed to pressing a button. Gif related. Controller also works on Vive, or another Steam VR Lighthouse HMD. Although the Vive is the cheapest one of the Steam VR Lighthouse stuff. The higher end is XTAL ($6000) which is obviously targeting enterprise. They have a lot of cool R&D. Word on the street is they're going to target the consumer market with their R&D which benefits everyone. Like getting games to look sharper, run better, with the same GPU using a mix of optics, screen utilization, and wizardry.

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son i get it thanks
-rob

>the best cost 4k
>the second best is chinkmax 5k+
>then comes the "consumer grade" pentile panels
You can chose what you want, course is not cheap.

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Any chance HTC will price cut the original Vive?

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>there's more VR headsts than actual VR games

I'm talking actual fucking games worth playing. Not shooting ranges, tech demos and 5 minute gimmick novelty "experiences". Vr is trash.

whats the best headset if i want to just watch some vr porn

real life

>Vr is trash.
Your free to wait. No rush.

It promotes communism and convinces your granddaughter to date niggers
Same as any other technology really

shut up i got my answer troll!

-rob

PSVR2 will probably end up being a standalone with the capacity to tether to the PS5 desu.

>8 hours til 1000 bucks are gone forever
I'm quite nervous as this may be the biggest purchase I've ever done at once and it's a fucking toy

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I'f I'm going to just be playing in my chair is it necessary to get the lighthouse things or can I just get the headset and controllers?

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I don't give a shit about this either way, but your inability to express your opinion without hiding behind these anime pictures is fucking pitiful.

you do need the lighthouses or there's nothing to detect the position or movement of your HMD even if you're just sitting down

Why would you want this if you're just going to play in your chair

>buying new tech on release

u dumb

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Sounds like someone doesn't have the money to buy new tech on release.

For vr chat mostly

Why would you buy a VR headset of all things when you don't own a car?

>he doesn't piss his money away like an absolute retard, he must be poor

VR has no games

>buys 1000$ worth of cutting edge technology
>user planns to use it for vrchat
just get a fucking oculus instead it's just fine for that

>499 for knuckles
>279 knuckles
>150 light house

Idk seems alright.

No driver's license I'm getting one this summer

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Anybody who is going to jump into VR with an Index is a retard.
Ease your way in first. Make sure you know what you are getting into.
Get a WMR or a Rift S. Then, once you know what you wanna do, upgrade. You might find you are satisfied with the cheaper headset anyway.

I fucking knew it'd be expensive as shit when Gabe was talking about first making the best VR headset and then making a cheap one.

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God damnit i was waiting for a next gen to jump in but apparently i have to wait more. Well back to waiting until manufacturers and developers stop fumbling around in the dark.

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How long it will take Oculus to adopt knuckles?
Might wait for gen3 i guess

VRchat is confirmed, user

No you don't. At all. What a horribly stupid thing to say

Honestly, I'm pretty okay with that strategy. Better than letting PCVR just stagnate like with the Rift -> Rift S. The costs will eventually come down, and people can just wait until then when it might actually have a game or four.

Face book will make it's own, Chat room.

Good VR for porn??

Wow... Anyone remember that valve employee coming here to talk about their shitty VR development?

Their goal was to make VR easily accessible and be the new mainstream thing. How can they fucking do that at 1000 dollars?? Is valve retarded?
>looks at artifact
>is quickly reminded
VALVE has no fucking idea what they are doing anymore.

I've seen the Facebook avatars, they look horrifying.
In fact, once they showed what the AR interface on the Quest looked like, it was as if you took mobile phone UI and general design philosophy and condensed it into a can so hard that it could be labeled as its own special kind of hazard. It reeks of "the smart phone generation" so so bad.

WHERES THE FUCKING GAMES
I CANT PLAY VIRTUAL REALITY GAMES WHEN THERE ARE NO VIRTUAL REALITY GAMES!

I'm getting a Quest because it will make watching VR porn video's easier.. Watching Video's in the Vive feels jank and uncomfortable. And I can't take the Vive into the bathroom.

Also for watching non-lewd VR180 video's. Those are honestly pretty entertaining.

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can you use the quest on steam?

>Rift S
Any reason to get this instead of a regular Rift for cheaper?

rift CV1>quest>s

>Anyone remember that valve employee coming here to talk about their shitty VR development?
No. And source. That in and of itself is utterly uninteresting.

You should probably save up for a new(or used) car, dude, opens a world of opportunities. I almost did the same thing but now I can't imagine not having a car. I can't say I would recommend driving without insurance, but it is doable. Insurance shouldn't be a problem if you are a good driver and know what to avoid doing, so you will be able to skimp it until you can afford it.

It's dramatically more convenient to setup and use.

Facebook is selling Quest at a loss so everyone have their botnet.

I'll just get an Index and sell it for extra money because scalpers are gonna buy 10 each

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Nope

There'll probably be some homebrew. It sure as heck won't be official. Look into the Rift S or MR headsets instead.
Camera's are pointing away from you rather than at you. Really though, you can use Quest controllers between Rift S and Quest. And you have inside out tracking. The problem with the Rift S is that it isn't objectively better. I can't tell you one is better than the other. Also, no physical IPD slider, so beware. They trade blows, though. I'd say at that point get a MR HMD like Odyssey Plus or Reverb.

I've got 4k that I can do whatever I want with, I'm going to buy Index, get a driver's license, POSSIBLY travel and when I finish getting a license I'll see if I go outside enough to make it worth getting a car

>until not only your car gets hit but also your wallet double as much
Stay safe, user.

Valve has fucking failed. Facebook made a cheaper version with decent graphics. A waaay cheaper version.

>phone games
>neutered pc vr games
>wearing an explosive battery on your face
no thanks

I do love convenience. I was pretty ready to just buy a second hand Rift or Vive and be done with it, but I'm going to have to look into the Rift S if it's not THAT much worse.

Valve can't
>make a competitive online store
>a card game more than 2 people play
>VR set that is affordable that negates their goal by their 220% price premium on their product compared to the competition
Why is anyone a fucking valve dick sucker in 2019? It's not 2010 anymore faggots.

If nothing else, a car will help with a job and work, but I guess you wouldn't have 4k if you didn't already.
It really sucks to think about it, but it doesn't help either. All one can do is get better and be vigilant, but thanks all the same user.

do any of the windows MR headsets (like the samsung odyssey 2 or whatever) have 6DOF?

>Knuckles
>muh grip strength
>muh pinky and ring finger tracking that will be utilized by 0.1% of all games
I hate to use this word, but that's a gimmick if I ever seen one

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I would rather buy a 7 night all inclusive vacation then buy the index

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why would you even consider 3 year old outdated tech

Better immersion is always nice thing.

They all do, but it's not as good. Tracking range for the controllers are only in front of the cameras. So you can't pull your hand behind your back and expect it to track reliably. Rift S has 5 cameras, Quest has 4, MR only has 2.

go for it brudder
like you expect us to stop you or take offense or some crap

Quest is? Isn't that basically the phone vr without the need for a computer but plays games far uglier?

You have PCVR-quality controllers and tracking, but mobile hardware. So, it's its own unique flavor of low end.

yes and it's awesome.

I feel like most people defend Steam rather than Valve themselves, and not even the Steam client or store but just the concept of it simply because that's where all their games are.
the people in Valve's R&D department coming up with the Steam Link, Steam Controller, the Index etc. need to stop though.

How 'bout you suck on these nuts?

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I'm still a student

I just think that the next step is "better hardware/games/etc/. But I guess accessibility and user friendliness is currently more important for VR right now

why do oculuschads keep fucking winning bros

posting in an actual authentic shill thread

Yes no no

I thought people were able to hack the headset to work with Vive games.

>1079€

kek I like you Gaben but this ain't it chief

I honestly hope the quest does well to generate more interest in VR. It's been taking off in the business sector, and it's looking like the index will replace the vive pro in that area, but it needs to get into the hands of your average Joe for it to really take off. Index is primarily targeting enthusiasts, businesses, and devs, and even at 1k I can guarantee this will probably sell decently because of that. Cost reduction can come later for high end PC VR.

You're probably thinking of revive, a program that makes the Oculus exclusives playable on non Oculus HMDs.

how does the new valve headset compare to the ones that already exist technology wise? well we see the same screen door shit or is this a big step forward?

I'll defend Valve in a lot of ways but that doesn't mean all they do is gold. Their lack of oversight by higher ups, since arguably there aren't any, just senior staff, may lead to good games, or at least it did once upon a time, but for hardware there's a clear ambition, just not enough of the finer details.
And for all I know, since I haven't tried their hardware stuff, what they really need is marketing. Facebook pretty much owns part of the internet meaning marketing their own product comes cheap plus the world media will report on it. Valve doesn't really do marketing leading to all this stuff being left behind.

im probably only getting the knuckles out of the index pack
its the only thing that actually seems any diffrent

everything ign reviews gets 7 and above
this proves nothing really

So is Oculus Rift and HTC Vive still the kings of VR gaming? Should I get one of those or wait for PSVR2? I just want to play Elite Dangerous in VR

VR costs too much AND there's no games
VR is such a huge meme, I feel bad for people who keep buying this shit

Rather pay the extra 600 and play real games instead of garbage unity demo #431

Vive is pretty fucked with this announcement.

Touch is basically Knuckles without the last two fingers and with better button placement

same here

except for the price, is there any reason not to go for the Index?

vr is a porn technology. video games is just a meme excuse for adopters to avoid the embarrassment

>built-in mobile tier graphics will win!
lol sure if you only use it to watch porn

This
Still 1k$ is too much for porn

VRChat has already been confirmed for the Quest, but the requirements for both world and avatars are pretty limiting.
Still nice to see it there, but damn is it harsh in comparison to PC VR.

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The army in my country is very interested in VR tech as a training tool, and the air force has used VR and those gyrothingies for pilot training for half a decade now. And as history shows, anything the military pursue eventually become commodity for civilian sectors once it's been developed enough

user he's full of shit. Buy a used original rift. 100 bucks cheaper, and the only extra setup is you plug a couple cameras in and put them on your desk.

>only VR game that i have a pretty big interest in is Beat Saber
>too poorfag to buy a headset
>PC is probably too bad for VR aswell
its not fair

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>almost 3 months of my salary
thanks Gaben

ONE THOUSAND

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You should be paying attention to your life instead of that VR escapism

valve is aiming for the VR enthusiast market, they don't need any more marketing. if you are a VR enthusiast you will know about the index

>Almost half of one fortnight of my salary
Thanks Gaben.

Price of the headset alone is actually fair given it seems to be a straight upgrade in every respect (Please correct me if i'm wrong, i'm a brainlet)
It's the lighthouses and controllers jacking up the price it seems, especially the lighthouse holy shit.

can someone post that blowjob webm?

how is viewing the web in VR? I want to go pure schizo while reading /pol/ and having a virtual bulletin board full of news articles and multiple live video feeds like the end of the matrix

you larping nigga
you asked in a thread about oculus quest what is new about the device
without specifying that you mean something other than the subject of the thread
so naturally anons were providing you answers to that
nobody said that index is wireless
fuck off

Whats your specs and budget user, ill tell you what you can get cheap thats decent

>same display resolution specs as Samsung odyssey
>LCD instead of AMOLED, so shit colours, shit black levels
>experimental hz overclocking, basically brainwarp
>Same FOV as every headset on the market now
>$1000

meanwhile Google, StarVR, Acer etc. all working on 4K/5K headsets with proper display panels, lenses, wide FOV

nah it's my shitty country

name one (1) game that it's worth buying for

hardmode : no sex / porn / pedo fantasies

>r9 270
>i7 4820k 3.7GHz
>8gb ram
i know it's garbage and i need to upgrade

>Though my initial impressions of Rift S suggested so-called god rays were gone, after a couple days with the headset it is apparent those visual artifacts are drastically reduced compared with the original Rift — but not completely eliminated.
>The screen-door effect is dramatically reduced as well, but it is still there
>more noticeable, though, is the resolution improvement and overall clarity of the optics.

Seems like it's still a bit of an upgrade, not sure if that + not having to set up stuff is worth $100 though. Reading is fun, reading tech reviews is not. Here's the full thing, I have no idea if the site is credible or not
uploadvr.com/rift-s-hardware-review/

I'm upgrading my old potato-powered toaster this year. What would be the best VR headset that's not Oculus?

Did you even see the specs?
Also AmoLED is shit, it has super high persistance.
Index is gonna have non experimental hz at 120, higher than other headsets, the 144 is experimental though. Lowest persistance display. Different subpixel arrangement and different lenses so no screen door or god rays and a way higher sweet spot. Best audio. Best controllers. Best comfort and ipd adjustment. A fucking expansion bay. And a ton of games. Higher FOV than vive and rift.
Your cpu is more than enough, get another 8gb ram.
Get a 1050 ti or even a 1060. Then get any of the 1st gen windows mixed reality sets with controllers off ebay. Theyre around 200, often less.
So thats like 300 bucks to get into PC vr. Not bad and you cant expect any less, honestly. Beat saber is just as fun as you think it is and way more, I have put so much time into it, and i just set aside a bit of cash for a couple months til i could afford a WMR headset. Really fun

Thats because it changed the display tech. Also changed the fact that there's no IPD adjustment so if youre ever so slightly out of the average range youre fucked. Refresh rate is lower than the original. And the comfort is way worse as it threw away the perfect baseball cap style strap for the shitty lenovo style visor that hurts your forehead as thats where all the weight and pressure go.

You can probably find some super cheap now

>meanwhile Google, StarVR, Acer etc. all working on 4K/5K headsets with proper display panels, lenses, wide FOV
>working on
as long as they are not releasing them in the near future your argument is invalid

Does anyone have that picture that shows all current headsets' pros and cons?

Pretty much this. If it's not actually coming out this year or first half of next year at the latest then people don't care because they're not going to wait that long.

>Where were you when Facebook wo~
kill yourself my dude

subhuman normies are spending $1000 annually to upgrade their iFag phones.
Meanwhile a technology that can push mankind (not just gaymen faggotry) forward like no other in the past 30 years is getting people to anal prolapse because it costs just 1k

Ok so the fucking thing is most Vive/Rift users can see enough to enjoy games like Beat Saber or Blade and Sorcery. But fine details like reading text on an object or looking through ironsights is screen door hell.
So to go into shitposting mode you need to drag the virtual desktop to fill your entire fucking field of view, to the point where slight head movement is needed to see the edges.
It's fucking insane that this isn't some people's top priority, even desktopping aside it's holding back the games devs can make, it's why menus and HUDs are always way oversized and it stops something like a text heavy RPG working well.
Thankfully it's getting better with sets like O+, Pro, Pimax, Reverb and Index, but the buyer's cope has been infuriating over the years.

>Biggest purchase
lmao

>Tfw got a Rift about a year and a half ago for my birthday
>Already feel like it's irrelevant with all these new headsets coming out already

Is there a trade up option or anything like that for existing Rift owners to get the Rift S? I can't see anything on their site.

>Biggest purchase
Wow, get a better job dude, I can literally shit out 1000 bucks every two weeks and still afford all my bills and shit. Buying this is almost literally fucking nothing to me.

Youre probably correct but getting into VR is getting into that 0.1% a lot

Yeah it's called Ebay

>get a better job
I don't have a job to begin with

>not just gaymen faggotry
It is literally straightmen faggotry with 99% of the intendet purpose being porn.

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I just assume anyone worried about the price is young, this isn't even an expensive hobby lol

I like watching VR180 videos on my headset desu.
Really entertaining stuff.
Not even porn ones.

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I just dont get the audience for this type of device. If it is some lighter weight standalone device that doesnt have the power of a high end pc then shouldnt it focus on media apps such as netflix, prime and youtube ? it seems to focus on gaming yet delivers shitty mobile hardware...

I just dont see the audience to be fair, I read it doesnt even have an html5 browser ?

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>Index is what Valve has been investing their money
It better be some groundbreaking piece of tech, and the game they have for it a masterpiece because boy am I pissed they're not investing that money on improving Steam and making traditional games.

you trade the power of a real pc for some shitty mobile tier hardware. and you gain the comfort of it being wireless and not needing to be tethered to a pc. if it were focused on media consumption I would see why they do it that way, yet it seems to focus on gaming and that can only lead to failure in my eyes...

that brings nothing new o nthe table, it's not a device made for gaming, no matter how much power you give it.

But with how niche the VR development scene has been it makes sense. So many low fidelity indie games.
This is just for people casual enough to have no gaming computer but see beat saber or gorn or shooting gallery 12 and want to play it. I mean there are people out there who play games on fucking phones, they aren't going to care about everything being downgraded ports.

Do people actually buy electronics that no longer have warranties from Ebay? What kind of moron would do that.

>VR180 videos
Any recommendations? I'm tired of VR porn.

But you can still use it for gaming, quest is for people who cant afford a gaming PC but they are porting games for it. Plus you can use it for porn.

>the next big thing in vr
>its exactly the same

I just looked at a bunch on youtubes vive app. I tolerated the fact that the app flickers so much it's pretty much broken.
Make's me wanna get a VR camera.

>t. Flip/Indon

Weird how Valve was technically early to this, any announcement was supposed to be today
Only because they tried to dab on the Oculus event but still

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You could return it, right?

>2 months of my salary
hang in there lad.

month of mine, but i need at least two months to save up for it. i'm considering it anyway, my dk2 with makeshift controllers could use an upgrade. when boneworks gets released, i'll probably be convinced

don't bother. like many other pre-purchase fantasies, this is one thing that doesn't work all that well in VR. watching movies in the virtual cinema won't look good either

I sold mine for 300 recently, they're probably around for similar prices on the usual sites. However, VR is a boring gimmick, I only used mine like five times and it was basically just a waste of 300 dollars.

>there are people excited for knuckles
>excited to pay 300$ for the controllers alone
>to have finger tracking
>because having your pinky and ring finger tracked at the expense of tactile feedback on the grip and triggers is a worthwhile sacrifice

the absolute fucking state of pcbros

The idea that the Vive is outdated is laughable. The tracking is identical to Index, and miles better than every other solution, the only possible issue is that the HMD resolution is a bit low now.

But even then, it's more than high enough if you aren't running a 2k top of the end rig, because you won't even be able to power the fucking Index at 144hz. And the resolution bump isn't even very significant.

If gen 2 was foveated rendering with 4k panels for each eye, I could understand thinking the Vive is outdated. But we're still another 5 years off even that, and another 15 years off having a valid upgrade to something with 16k screens.

How many years has vr been a thing, over 5?
and still no games

>>Vive is pretty fucked with this announcement.
The Vive Pro is, maybe. The original will probably sell even more copies, because people realise they can just spend 400 bucks on a new Vive, sell the headset for 150 bucks to someone who broke theirs, and then pick up an Index headset for another 500 bucks to get an Index setup for 700 bucks.

There won't be games till oculus quest becomes extremely popular providing a userbase.

>user base BEFORE game
doomed to fail
you need a fucking game for your hardware for people to want to buy the hardware, it doesnt work the other way around

ANY DAY NOW BROS

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The resolution is nowhere near good enough. You're probably sitting 3 feet from a 1080p+ screen right now and you can make out individual pixels, imagine how bad it'll be when that screen is 2 inches from your face and an area that's basically sub 480p on your new display is the same relative size as your monitor.

Yeah, but you can flick someone off in Korean now. A good portion of PC gaming is learning profanity in a foreign language. Dude are you even a gamer?

Well what I mean is: make hardware cheap enough for normal users with games that are good enough (look at how many games mobile shit sells), then once u start getting people a higher tier studio takes a chance on VR, cause otherwise right now no one will take a chance.

t.brainlet

web looks amazing on the Go

You have to remember that Valve cultists are braindead.

I can't imagine being this clueless about basic hardware limitations.

It's like saying that your old 60s black and white CRT can display text over RF, so it looks "amazing".

>snapdragon
>inside out shit tracking
>next big thing in VR

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>1000 goy bux for a porn simulator

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Beat saber

>Robo Recall
>Arizona Sunshine
>Fucking Rec Room
>Super Hot
>Star Shitizen
>Various racing games and flight sims
No gaems lmao nice meme :-DDDDDD

umm okay, do you have an Oculus go? because I have one and it looks amazing. So keep going on about those hardware limitations of a device you have not used you fucking idiot.

£500 isnt cheap and there are no games so its pointless

Yeah maybe if vr headsets were cheap that might kickstart some buying and game making
but i dont see these getting cheaper, because no ones going to be buying them, because there is no point

oculus quest is 399 usd starting?

pathetic list

Is Oculus Quest good enough as a 400 dollar Beat Saber machine?

Xbox One S is $250 and it's difficult to justify. We're talking like double the price. Double the value, even? The problem here is that even something like HLVR could have issues justifying a $250 MR HMD. You'll need content, and I mean content if you want people to shell out even a few hundred dollars on your stuff.

still not great

Not only that; Quest is better, more functional and won't be abandoned as soon as it's released. Quest is superior to Valve Index in every conceivable and relevant aspect possible.

Tech demos aren't games.
Racing and Flight sims suck donkey balls

Why are people that could barely afford PCs good enough to run VR crying they're expensive?

>1nd

I would spend the 1k if there was games worth playing.

I have the Acer Windows Mixed Reality and its ok (can see pixels thoug) , but most games are not worth playing...

I really can't see much of a difference between this model and the CV1 I own now. Its pretty tempting to preorder for 399.99 tho. What the actual FUCK was Valve thinking, were they thinking at all?

youtube.com/watch?v=1Aix8NuU8pE

>Racing and Flight sims suck donkey balls
t. casual shitter

VRChat could have been good if it wasn't filled to the brim with faggots pretending to be girls

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Remember: Review bomb Valve Index when it's released.

the quest is garbage.

How are people still posting these

Honest question, whats the likelyhood of someone cracking/hacking Knuckles to work with an Oculus?

>Requires you to own one to review
>Poorcucks and thirdies SEETHE about Valve not letting them have a voice
Please do this for me Valve

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>valve offers refunds
>only within 2 hours though
>retards end up actually paying shipping just to send it back and leave a bad review
I can see it happening

you need lighthouses to track them, mretard

They still need 1000$+shipping though, you're seriously overestimating most retards if you think a large value of the people spouting this dumb shit even has 1000$ between 10 of them

>buy one
>review bomb it
>get a refund afterward

youtu.be/5QKy3nxqLI8

thanks

>Lack the money to do so because you were angry it's not affordable for you
Not a bright plan juan

Can you purchase the index with steamcoin?

If you get a refund before the shipping starts, then you keep your money and don't have to pay shit. It's the perfect "Go fuck yourself Valve" gesture.

I believe so, last I checked your valve wallet works on hardware as well as software

Vive redirected you to HTCs site, but since the Index is Valve made I'd assume...yes?
Imagine being this childish

damn bruh you sure showed them
row row fight da powa

>Feel no need to upgrade from Vive HMD
>They set a piecemeal option and allow shit to work with Vive tech
>Will probably go for controllers, then cop the new base stations at a later date
Perfect

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ONE

foveated rendering or I sleep

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THOUSAND

>This item is currently unavailable in your region

SEVENTY NINE

FUCKING

JEWUROS

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IT WORKS WITH THE OCULUS

WHY EVEN BUY THE VR HEADSET FROM VALVE

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So whats the best head set for $300-500? Im thinking of trying it with some of my tax return but idk where to start and what games are out. Theres a used oculus near me for $350 on craigslist, i have a ps4 but not a ps4pro so idk if PSVR works for that. The Vive seems cool, but expensive. The RiftS seems pretty affordable and theres a demo at my BestBuy to try (before i buy on Amazon or something)

>IT WORKS
what works

knuckles

>"Are you ready?"

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>not buying a wmr and the valve knuckles separately

You're all retarded

sure, if you are willing to spend extra $300 on base stations to track them

y-yes Gabe.

v1 devices don't work with v2 basestations. But v2 devices work with v1 basestations. Weird "forwards" compatibility with a lack of backwards compatibility. Basically the upgrade route should look like
>Vive with Knuckles
>Index with Knuckles
>Index with Knuckles with V2 Basestations

The oculus quest also isn't a VR headset for the PC. It's a standalone mobile gaming station. It's literally just an improved oculus GO.

Works for me, can still get the knuckles

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>no screen door or god rays

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I know I'm 100% getting the knuckles, but should I get the index? Should I wait for valve to release better/cheaper versions of it?

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poorfag

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It's on you man, it's not limited time, no need to be stressed about it

VR would be awesome if it had games

currently the only worthwhile games are

fallout 4
skyrim
minecraft
no man sky
doom 3 bfg

I guess it's important to push tech forward but damn when are the actual AAA VR games going to come out to make any of these overpriced pieces of hardware worth it?

Like fuck. I'll get the knuckles when they're a hundred bucks cheaper.

I'd say the best route is to get a discounted Vive bundle + knuckles controllers. Still would probably end up totaling at like $650. As far as Steam VR Lighthouse HMDs, there are others targeting the consumer and enthusiast market. We don't know what's up with LG, XTAL's next HMD is likely targeting the prosumer market rather than pure enterprise. Speaking of high end HMDs, Pimax lets you buy the HMD separately.
And, I mean the Rift and MR options don't look bad either.

fuck you rob I know what you're up to
-beaner

>knuckles
Wow, now I can move my pinky and ring finger in VR. Truly innovative.

Enjoy having to put an annoying strap on your hands while you can't see shit cause a VR headset is covering your eyes for literally no reason every time you want to use VR.

Hey, shut up. Rob was cool.

There's also unofficial shit like Alien Isolation VR mod, Half-Life 2 VR mod, and Dolphin VR is great with Metroid Prime and TLoZ WW/TP

It doesn't matter who wins the VR race because it's a meme gimmick fad that is already over.

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vr "ports" of big games are usually shit, except simulators and superhot. worthwile games are beat saber, pavlov, other similar stuff. people really don't understand how different VR is from ordinary vidya, it requires entirely different approach to truly be fun.

big flatscreen titles having vr ports would probably sell some headsets, but it sure wouldn't keep them alive

I like when you use a colon more

also i forgot about
Elite Dangerous VR

gottem

>But even then, it's more than high enough if you aren't running a 2k top of the end rig, because you won't even be able to power the fucking Index at 144hz. And the resolution bump isn't even very significant.
Different user, I already own the Vive.

I am a little torn on the upgrade path since I want the best of both worlds for roomscale games and flight sims.
Will definitely be getting the new index controller because I absolutely loath the stock vive wands. Especially the godawful tactile button grips.

>Vive1 resolution is lacking especially for reading gauges and identifying friend from foe at a distance in flight sims like IL2:BOS. The FoV is also a bit of an issue for checking my 6 in a cockpit which adds to the neck strain over time since you have to turn you neck further back to see.
>HP's HMD has high panel resolution with similar FOV to gen 1 HMDs which is great for fine details and IFF but the FOV isn't great for situational awareness and I can't pair it with the index controller.
>The index has RGB subpixel arrangement but the panels are LCD instead of OLED which would be noticeable in night time flights. That and the resolution bump isn't big enough to justify upgrading.
>The XTAL is expensive as fuck but has all I want in an upgrade since they managed to squeeze a lot of detail out of their 1440 panels through software and optical witchcraft, I could afford it but I would rather not blow my savings on tech that will be superseded for a much cheaper price three years down the road.

I Think I'll just buying the index controllers and skip a gen but I am tempted to give the index HMD a shot if the build quality is good since I don't need to buy new base stations and my Vive is showing its age.
My face plate's Velcro adhesive peeled off from the heat and the plastic nose gasket tore in half after putting on my glasses with the HMD a few times.
Surprisingly my controllers and base stations are still in pristine condition after 3 years of use.

VR is a: meme
That is already: over
Deal with: it

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i'm pretty sure troll user's colon is already stretched way too much because of his reckless faggotry. let him rest

seriously?
I was vaguely interested in quest but not if it's some walled garden shit, I shoulda known them having it be an all in one thing was just so they could treat it like a games console.

Well there is likely a way to hack it. I haven't looked into oculus go so i'm not really sure if thre is a mod scene.

I'll buy the second gen of this. Wired, PC-dependant VR is a dead end. But I'd like to see the SoC come a bit further.

Playing Alien: Isolation made me pine for a VR headset. Absolutely fantastic game on a TV (as I played it), but would have been fucking heart-attack-inducing in VR if done right.

It's unbelievable to me that they announced the Index without a single new game attached to it.

they don't work together you absolute mong

>Oculus sells poorly due to overpricing
>Vive sells poorly due to overpricing
>Valve decides to fucking add $300 to the price of Valve and expect success
>Sony has had improved the value of PSVR packs and reduced the price for holiday sales
>PSVR has sold over 4.2M units
Are you fucking ready for Sony to control the VR market

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I am, because they're capable of funding real developers and have already started to do so.

All I want from VR is increased visual immersion.

>virtual IMAX screen
>control cameras of good old games with my neck
>DOA girls in my face

Dion't talk to me about motion controllers, until they're literal gloves.

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>VR
>having games
LOL

>sells poorly
According to you or their sales goals?
Also trying to compare PSVR which can run on a 400$ PS4 vs a PC HMD that needs a GPU alone that costs over 400$ is actually beyond retarded, really shows the insight on your average doomposting faggot that has no idea what they're on about

The Index's controllers are basically like gloves. They register each individual finger movement.

Problem is though, NO FUCKING GAMES

Well, Rift already tracks the 3 most important fingers, has games, and is cheaper so I don't see the point.

>has games
lol

Index being this price is a disappointment, it's not going to sell well at 1k fir the bundle. I'll probably buy one but I'd only need the headset.

Are there stats for what platforms VR games are selling on? If Sony really running away with it?

If PS5 VR is wireless it'll be very tempting, but is that feasible? (can you get the latency low enough / reliability high enough?)

If you aren't excited for Stormlands and Lone Echo 2 then I don't know what to tell you.

That finger shit is the future. How do they do it?

>Will definitely be getting the new index controller because I absolutely loath the stock vive wands. Especially the godawful tactile button grips.

Me fucking too, it's like saying a giant sex toy around and the grip buttons suck dick. I love my vive but the oculus controllers are so much better. Thank God for the knuckles.

>decide to ~ask questions~
>actually just make angry posts online about niggers

No games
(Unironically this time)

It's pretty feasible if Sony decides to upgrade all aspects of PSVR with PS5
There's obviously gonna be a change to the controllers and tracking but wireless headset could be another option for them

>2 decent games
>just need a $400 attachment for your $800 PC plus the games
ehhhhhhh

Sony is doing the best because of cost but Sony vr fucking suck compared to PC vr. If Sony developed a headset that has room scale and can be used on PC and ps4 it would all the competition away and make vr much more popular. I fully expect them eventually make a headset that isnt exclusively used on playstation. Sony really shines in their support for gr. They go out of their way to fund actual games and shit.

No room scale no buy, I really hope they add in room scale.

>Valve thought Artifact would be a massive hit and take on Hearthstone
>Valve makes Artifact expensive as hell to play with awful Pay to play mechanics
>Artifact flops

You would think they would learn their lesson but no, they're LITERALLY doing the same shit with VR, the biggest gap with VR is the price point, a lot of people don't have a strong enough PC that's even compatible with the vive, let alone dropping another $1000, who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

Oculus has the right idea with their Quest though, it's gonna be a huge hit because it adresses the #1 issue why people aren't making the jump to VR yet. Fucking hell, valve.

It would be fine if you needed to be in the same room as a Playstation(5) imo. Nobody's going to be using these all-in-one VR headsets out in public or traveling or whatever, they're for home.

Considering they can do the Quest so cheap and it does all the processing locally, it seems feasible that Sony could do a $300 package with the same sort of display and tracking that requires a PS5 but delivers much better graphics.

>a lot of people don't have a strong enough PC that's even compatible with the vive, let alone-
They are not the target audience, you absolute tiny brained fool.

Honestly they probably will, Sony seems very convinced vr has a future with how much money they are putting into it. If the ps5 hardware leaks are true theyll be able to do it a lot more with it next gen.

Their reasoning is something like not compromising in the headset, then reducing price later
They're both pushing VR in different ways and of course Quest was always going to outsell it

>Their reasoning is something like not compromising in the headset, then reducing price later
Fucking retardmongers, Valve truly are. They should have gone for low-quality low-cost hardware instead.

VR isnt being made to be accessible to everyone, it's still in its early stages. It's made for people who have the money to buy the technology. This stage of vr is pretty much testing and ironing out issues. Microsoft headset are for people who cant afford to drop a lot of money on vr and I've heard good things about them. Eventually vr is going to be much more affordable, it's just in an early phase in making it a consumer product. If VR doesnt die off itll be cheap enough for the average Joe to buy eventually. All technology starts out expensive. I remember when the ps3 was one of the cheapest bluray players you could buy and when discman cd players were like 300 dollars.

>If VR doesnt die off
It's already dead.

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That's honestly what I thought they were doing. I figured they would just make a vive but cheaper. Instead it's way more expensive lol. Oh well, I'm betting they move towards lower prices as time goes on.

Or if Valve insists on high quality, still keep its cost at like 200$ or lower. They have no excuse to make it costly when they're all billionaires from Steam alone.

M knight plot twist: it was dead the whole time.

The retarded reasoning around her never ceases to drop my expectations for humanity, sasuga

Fuck room scale. What's the benefit?

Dumb frogposter

Nobody will remember this meme.

There is no point to vr without it.

Most people who play games don't have or want a gaming PC.

Weren't they supposed to announce a game today for it?

But you sit down or just stand in one spot anyway. If the PS camera was wider ranged and a bit more accurate, that would suffice from what I can tell.

Yeah, this is really confusing and worrying. The dual lens system they're so proud of was declared in the patent as very specifically all about eliminating visible fresnel stepping and god-rays.

Will these base stations be compatible with the headset and knuckles? Valve's website doesn't really say or not

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They announced Aperture Hand Labs free tech demo by Cloudhead Games (apparently a Rock-Paper-Scissors death-game comedy-horror experience?) and that there will be a Valve-made 'VR Flagship Title' coming later this year (the consistently-leaked 'HLVR').

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where are the games ?
why would anyone buy this fancy paperweight ?
you don't need this to masturbate, phone vr is good enough for that

>Valve
>making video games
They haven't made a video game ever since they released Half-Life 2 and its episodes. Get real.

Yes they will be compatible. The store page does explicitly say they will, it's why they have the $750 HMD+controllers bundle. The 1.0 lighthouses can and probably will forever remain capable of servicing all future sensor revisions, it's the 2.0 lighthouses which can't service older sensors.

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>racing games
>art games
>flight sims
>space combat
>getting the succ
Room scale is really fun but there are games I sit down for too

I think i read somewhere that Sony patented a VR wireless method

wow look at those reduced components I can't wait to see how much cheaper 2.0 will-

Imagine being poor though

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W.E.

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Huh? You mean they want people to pre-order without even revealing their flagship title for it? Jesus volvo is out of touch.

>WE WANT KINECT 2.0
Fuck off. Roomscale shit is absolutely useless for actual vydia. No one cares about your shitty demo scenes and vr chats with nothing to do in them.

>next big thing
>mobile phone graphics and gameplay for $400
lmao
yea i wonder (((who))) is calling it the next big thing

VR is a big fucking meme and I honestly don't give a fuck about it.

Firstly, where's the must-play games? Until there's a massive franchise on there like GTA or Zelda or Call of Duty or Halo or a FromSoftware game, I don't see why I should give a fuck.

But also, will those big franchises ever release VR games? I doubt it.

You know how movies have existed for decades at this point? And you know how nobody has gone "golly, if we really want a better movie experience, we need to put some fucking headsets on everybody so they're really immersed"? Yeah, that's because it's a dumb fucking idea. Watching a movie on a screen is fine, and so is playing a video game on a screen. Movies and video games aren't meant to replace reality, and if they replace yours, then you must be a loser with no life. They are entertaining distractions that you can partake in during your downtime. I don't need some stupid fucking headset which takes me out of the real world, thanks.

So their target audience are rich people who like to shell out $1000 for something they'll never use (because there are NO GAMES) I have never seen a company that resents their core fanbase as much as Valve. In retrospect, Valve has always been entirely greedy and callous. Nobody has fond memories of Steam when it came out. People hated it but Valve pushed it through because they ultimately never wanted to be a game design studio, they wanted to be the new Microsoft. The fondest memories Valve's audiences have is from the period when the Orange Box was released because it had lots of great games. But what did Valve do for their fans, who were early adopters od Steam (out of necessity)? Who made them rich and famous in the early 00's? They ignored them and tried to get the MOBA audience by buying out DOTA. Valve never cared about their core audience. They want the hat audience, the MOBA audience, the console audience, the virtual pay-to-win card game audience, the 'VR enthusiast' audience. Good luck with that. I hope this turd flops like the 'steambox' did. $1000 for NO GAMES. Even basedboy """enthusiasts""" aren't dumb enough to buy this bullshit.

But you could play GTA/Zelda/COD/Halo just fine without VR

He didn't literally mean those games, he meant that those games are iconic on their own platforms and people are willing to buy the platform to play those games. There are no VR games worth getting a 1k piece of hardware and top of the line PC for.

>that brings nothing new o nthe table

If that's your judgement then you don't use VR.

VR in its current state is total garbage. However, I have a lot of game ideas that can only be done in VR, and I think would make for cool fully fledged games, so I know it's got a lot of untapped potential.

I gaem on a 4k screen and bought all the vrs to try the meme , its so blurry and so shit plus the cables are so limiting its not worth it , i end up returning everything

its in the name, sensor covering your knuckles to track your fingers.

Imagine thinking that VR's purpose is to replace standard videogames and not just be another form of videogame.
This is what I don't get. VR's appeal is doing things you can't do without it. I can't, with a controller or mouse and keyboard, play a shooter where I have to manually reload and operate my weapon in combat. I can do that in Pavlov or Onward or Contractors on my Vive. I can't play a melee combat focused game where I physically dodge, weave and stab people with my own two hands with a controller either. VR can do stuff and do it in ways that a normal game couldn't, just like how a normal game can do stuff and do it in ways that VR can't really manage.

>be poor
>Don't have enough space
>not enough experience to know whether I can get motionsickness or headaches from using

I really want to get VR, but I just can't

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>80Hz Refresh Rate on Rift S
>72Hz Refresh Rate on Quest

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>have a vive
>have tpcast wireless for it
>have prescription lens holders for it
>don't want to pay another $500 for HMD, $280 for two controlllers, and probably $300+ for another wireless solution
feels bad

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If you'd gone with the Vive wireless kit instead you would at least be able to carry it over to a Vive Pro.

>Except for the price

If money is no object, do it.

ONE HOUR BOYS!

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How long did it take for Oculus Quest preorders to run out?

the finger tracking works by an AI solver over capsense sensors in the grip itself. the back strap just holds the lighthouse positional tracking sensors.

Index preorders aren't going to run out. They may retroactively split people into different ship-date groups (and I doubt that), but they're not going to stop taking orders.

>As I said before, the only devices with "wireless" are those glorified phone-holders you slot your smartphone into before booting up some super-basic game or tech demo.
You forgot about the Vive Pro and its wireless, but that's even more expensive than the Index and only meant for VR-arcades and stuff. Face it VR even 2nd Gen is still in its infancy where good VR is reserved for wealthier early adopters willing to buy something with a 2-year product cycle and the mid-segment is just about quite not good enough for what it promises on the tin, but is actually great for stuff like racing games and space sims like Elite Dangerous. I'm a VR believer in that I don't think it's a passing fad this time around, but there is so much room for improvement still and prices for the few good options (Vive, Vive Pro, Index, maybe Odyssey+ for entry level introduction if you've got the cash for something "introductory" that you'll likely replace before long) are so high that it's easy to see why adoption is a slow but gradual process.and it won't be till Boneworks-tier games start coming out that it's going to carve out a sizeable niche in gaming.
I don't see why wireless hasn't picked up more this gen, but apparently it's not easy to communicate wireless without latency and pack a battery that can power two smartphone screens and sensors.

>Zelda
Labo VR and BotW
>FromSoftware
PSVR and Decarine

BOTW VR is basically unplayable though
Your best bet is waiting for Switch emulation to improve and playing it through a PC headset.

They do, smoothbrain. You can sync up the tracking systems of literally any two headsets/controllers on the market if you're going to be playing on steam.

youtube.com/watch?v=CvrjNLsGQZI

That's the Wii U version, not the Switch version with Labo VR.

And it's superior to the CardboardoVR, and Checker box station VR

maybe so

And unlike So.ystation and the HOBO house material, the PC VR hardware can play all the hentai VR games and much more.

That's my point. VR is unnecessary.

Very true. But even if one of those games also made it onto VR, that would of course be a big deal. Although to be fair, Nintendo did recently issue a Switch update for "VR" (but apparently it sucks), and Call of Duty apparently released a mission from Infinite Warfare as a VR thing, which you need PSVR for. These are basically just add-ons, gimmicks, though.

Yeah maybe some developers will be able to make something really compelling in the near future. At the moment, though, it seems like a hugely expensive set of hardware and not much in the way of compelling software. I'm happy with normal gaming on a TV since I can get tons of great, in-depth, AAA games, and for a tiny fraction of the price. All the games I see for VR seem to be indie mini-games.

Fair enough. Are those games good? Are they fully fledged games or just sort of mini games? Maybe VR does have promise, but right now the hardware is way too expensive for most people and the compelling software isn't really there. At least I've not heard of any "must play" titles.

Yeah true about BOTW, I just realised that, but apparently it sucks. And it's basically just a half-baked afterthought rather than a AAA game developed solely (or primarily) for VR. Also yeah I have heard about Déraciné before, but it looks like it got pretty average reviews.

Aren't they basically exactly the same? And from what I understand, Cemu is absolutely the best way to play BOTW on PC right now. Yuzu is still in its infancy really.

>Aren't they basically exactly the same?
Yes, but only Switch has the official VR mode.

>this image contains the Mii of a dead man

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I get your points. So what it would take to convince you is more "full" content and a more appropriate price? That's reasonable.

Yeah, I think those are probably the things that will have to happen for VR to gain popularity, not just with me but with the marketplace I would have thought. It could happen, I guess we'll have to see.

>Where were you when Facebook won the VR race?
Depends on what race you're talking about. If you talking about getting it into normalfag hands, sure. If you're talking about pushing the hardware, index pretty much stomps every other option.

The Sega Game Gear was more advanced than the Game Boy, but we all know how that fight turned out.

>get VR a week ago
>played literally every single title in that time
Not everything to completion, but so many are clones that it doesn’t really matter. Thank fuck for piracy, too. Saved me 1k+
Games worth playing
>superhot has the best gunplay
>in death has the best bows
>arizona sunshine has the best zombies
>orbus has the best MMO, only MMO
Beyond that you have chat rooms, which aren’t even exclusive, a few gun sims, plank sims, general demos. Pavlov is literally clunky csgo, which in itself is a shit game, so I don’t know what I was thinking installing that since I’m not an autistic child. You can just play horseshoes and google earth, and skip the risk of the demos if you’re feeling lazy, honestly.
Which brings me to my point. How the genuine fuck did Valve not announce a game?

That's a completely different market.

store.steampowered.com/valveindex?its=happening

They are investing a lot of time and money into VR. It's a primitive bci "Brain Computer Interface", Gabes son said that's what they are working towards, As well as Elon musk and others.
This is the third headset Valve is working on, Yet the sales for VR are minimal and there is fuck all games, It's meant for something more.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Glad I'm not the only one.

wait, it was a countdown for it to become purchasable?
No presentation or anything?

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Source?

this is not the orange box I wanted

Are you fucking kidding me?

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They’re trying to prevent you from making a terrible mistake.

Getting real mad over hard facts son.
You think a company expects your broke ass to shell out 500$ for a GPU and another grand for the headset?
Get your head out of your ass

>for the protection of the account holder
>valve had refused your payment for your own good
take a hint

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why did Valve let me buy Artifact?

I'M AN ADULT
I CAN MAKE SHITTY MISTAKES IF I WANT TO.
HOW DO YOU FUCKERS THINK I GOT BORN IN THE FIRST PLACE?

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lol

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

yes

Careful posting that will make the poors ultra seethe.
They're beyond convinced that since they can't afford it everyone will join their 99% rally in front of Valve headquarters

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Is there a VR headset with focus adjustment yet?

I will escape this country through vr

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I heard there’s a special offer; free dildo attachment.

This, it doesn't matter how good the hardware is if the games aren't anything phenominal that needs a expensive headset like the Index.
Shit the last game I played that impressed me was the prototype build for Tea for God and that was because of the procedural generation and impossible room scenarios and not thr gameplay itself.

Hang in there Venezuela user

OH ok, everything is fine.

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The govt fucks me on a daily basis, I hardly need that

>all this talk about hardware
>meanwhile not a single killer app VR game exists

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>not waiting 2-4 weeks for some impulse buying retard to dump it half off on ebay, craigslist, offerup, or whatever

Valve said they will release a flagship game this year, pretty silly to not at least tease it a little bit to drive hype though.

>All that shit talk about how VR is dead and no one is buying headsets
>People are posting their pre orders
>"B-b-b-b-but where are the games haha, I played every game b-because I have a headset, they're all bad, PLEASE DON'T BUY THIS PLEASE"
Fuck you're pathetic nigger, accept you're poor

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>if the best vr games were not vr they would universally be decried as indie shovelware

I'll be joining the 50% off rally while you wait for your 6 week delivery.

>But what did Valve do for their fans, who were early adopters od Steam (out of necessity)?
they gave us free VR kit and other free hardware. but yeah, i really really want them to make some new FPS, existing IP or new.

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>Not available in your country

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what are you selling my dude

How about getting a job, poorfags?

you can get a squaretrade warranty on ebay.

No, no it isn't. It is the video game market. Like the guy I responded to said, "if you're talking about getting it into normalfag hands, sure, [Facebook won the VR race]".

I mean I'm not saying they necessarily have, I'm still sceptical that VR is compelling enough for the mass market to be interested in it; but I'm just saying that the most technologically advanced option is not usually the one that succeeds. Too expensive. If you want to have a massive success with a gaming console or peripheral, it needs to be the right price so that tons of people can buy it.

fuck off, this is my corner of the market. find your own.

Why get a job when you can play pretend billionaire on the internet while pretending a billionaire would wait on a discount for a 1000$ piece of equipment

answer the question david.

Jag har hört att dem inte skickar till icke-eu länder, kom över på en kopp kaffe och beställ en, bror min.

>tfw buy Index
>tfw bank gives me a fraud detection call and asks me to verify I'm not getting raped
>hesitate but ultimately say I'm fine

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>Quest
Cringe standalone no game.

>Ships by Jul 31, 2019
FUCK

>reviews are calling it
call me when somebody who matters reviews it

This.
Also backwards compatibility with with non vr games even modded is dogshit.
The entire ecosystem is a mess.
I just got a fuck off huge 34" 3440x1440p 100hz va Samsung panel for 300usd and fucked off vr even though I have a 2080ti

Aaaand they're already sold out til the end of July.

>>tfw bank gives me a fraud detection call and asks me to verify I'm not getting raped
>>hesitate but ultimately say I'm fine
Is it really rape if you consent? It might be harmful, but you wanted it

fug

he tooks moms credit card and added funds into steam wallet then sold some trash in april 2019 to pretend to be rich on a anonymous board

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Holy fuck are poorfaggots ever fucking right?
I can already hear the kettle whistle emitting from their eye sockets in pure rage

What? Can you post pic?

i'm selling dicks. go away.

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I had a hands on (didn't test) with the Valve Index when I was touring their office.
Everything in it felt really really well made and I was wondering how they'd meet a $600 price point with it.

If you have the money I'm assuming based on the quality of it that they plan to support it for at least a decade.

Anyways I might buy one next month or in two if I can save up a bit.

I'm in the same boat. It doesn't seem to be an issue on Paypal's end, so I just sent Steam Support a ticket. If it sells out before I get this resolved, I'm going to throw up.

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You don't need a $1000 headset to play the games that are out there right now user. Maybe 3-4 months after launch and there are more games that support the knuckles I'd buy an index but for now I'm fine with my Rift.

you aint selling shit fucking cuck
post history of transaction from 2004 on

n-no games

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Isn't that the entire point?

I'm not buying an index either, I just like riling up people who clearly shit talk VR because they can't afford it, now I can shitpost with the Index being sold out in a half hour, really shatters that "Muh VR is dying" narrative they've been pushing unsuccessfully.

>meme gimmick fad that every new product launched sells out in minutes

nu-Yea Forums will never learn

So how much should i sell my vive for?

It's the perfect platform. I figure movie games are the real destiny of VR and Playstation alike.

This post aged like shit

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Something weird is going on, a Cloudhead dev claims there are things about the HMD he can't talk about yet.
>There's so much I cannot say but I need to say one thing here. I have A/B'd these devices side-by-side for the last few months. So many people are underestimating what the Index does differently and does so well. It is almost not a comparable experience. Take that for what its worth until you try it for yourselves.

leddit link alert
reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/bj9ypg/to_anyone_complaining_about_the_display/em7bm22/

We have no idea how many sold to put them out of stock

That's a good point, this could be a standard marketing move just to build hype while still letting the most obsessive first adopters feel exclusive for a while. Nintendo certainly does this.

mmm free stuff. it's a shame they discontinued the steam link though. i could buy them for like $12 and flip them on ebay for $50. RIP

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I'm sure he just means how much difference all the little comfort options like low latency and high refresh rate make
I doubt he knows something Tested doesn't

I'm sure they only put up 5 pre orders friend, and not the amount that was actually produced in order to staunch the sales of it early on.
Don't be a fucking retard, people use this same coping mechanism when key sites sell out "T-they probably only had 100 keys"
Don't be a fucking moron

>see early adopters
>all those reservations

haahahahahah

So Yea Forums hates Superhot now?

>checking out my local used stuff auction site
>lots of used vives being sold without base stations for ~130 yuro
>and that's just the beginning of the price drop
>there will surely be some full used kits for sale as well
maybe it's finally time to upgrade from my dk2

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Index is already looking to be a total disaster.

I don't even want to imagine how much money you shoved into gabens asshole, not that I give a fuck.
VR cucks are the epitome of Gabens ez money.

If you don't mind paying a little extra, buy them separately.

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>"The Next Big Thing"
>Two hour battery life
>Downgraded touch controllers
>Massive downgrade in visual fidelity
Nice try Zuckerberg.

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Nah. This is PCVR which is shit. PSVR is where the worthwhile games are.

i only ever put about $300 into steam including game purchases and have cashed out well over $1000 to paypal and have a fat wallet and inventory. it's not me putting money into the system bruh, i'm just siphoning off numbers.

>sony shitters shitting up PCVR thread
For a minute I thought this was a nintendo thread

Any day now he'll be back to save VR.

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I don't get the basestations. Are those lighthouses V2 or something Valve made themselves?

I am not.

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cool story buddy but those peanut transactions from 2018-2019 don't siphon in 1.5k into your wallet out of nothing

Wrong.

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Why? Most people want regular sitting down experiences so the room tracking doesn't matter for alot of games.
PSVR has what it needs to sitting down experiences and the games for it are the best available.

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>That price on the lighthouses
Is there something I'm missing here or is that a huge markup? You can buy extra Rift Sensors for sixty bucks each, why are the lighthouses $150?

>4 logical cores
I'm just as confused as Valve.

>Most people want regular sitting down experiences
Biggest vr game right now is beat saber

So do i get a Rift S or an Index.
Is the 500 dollar difference actually worth anything?

But at cost, user?

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>has what it needs
A PS4 GPU and black bars?
I can't fucking hack that m8, PSVR is a mere cashgrab compared to the real shit

they're just 2.0 lighthouses

awesome, thanks.

hole fuck, all components are at the top of the top sellers

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what are you really trying to say, friend?

Eh. PSVR can do that just fine aswell.
Are you a hacker or a gamer? Why wouldn't you want the best VR gaming available? Tech demos only last so long before you get tired of them.

because he's a cuck

Okay you have to be fucking trolling, I refuse to believe you're this fucking stupid

No no no NO NO NO
IT'S NOT FAIR I CAN'T AFFORD IT
NOT FAIRNOT FAIRNOT FAIRNOT FAIRNOT FAIRNOT FAIR

youtu.be/1qeECAeSzik?t=29

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Not an argument

You do realize that Valve is artificially boosting it to top selling to make it seem like it's not failing, right?

you only save $75 by buying them all together. maybe it will make sense to buy the headset alone at the beginning?

From what I hear, the actual cover distence of the Lighthouses are crazy.
Take it from me, the Rift sensors are really really fucking ass.
I spent hours in a FOV visualizer trying to clear up my deadzones without much success.
With the light houses at least you can fill up a fucking warehouse if you have 4-6 of them I've heard.
The cover distance and FOV is supposed to be crazy.
Still, most people don't need that kind of coverage and I don't think people would buying old 1.0 lighthouses instead of only being able to get the 2.0's when starting from scratch.

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What are you going to do with a headset without tracking?

"T-they only had 10 headsets"
"Th-they're not actually using a reservation list"
"T-they're artificially boosting visibility"
"I can't be wrong, everyone else is!"
Pathetic

don't they weigh it by cost numbers? ex. a more expensive game that sells less copies than a cheap game is technically a higher seller?

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The only thing I expect Oculus to rip from Knuckles in the future is the hands-free grip design, and perhaps adding some form of capacitive sensor for the ring+pinky area just so that (as a combined finger) has an on/off state like the thumb does.

i'm not your friend you shit faced autist. I said post transactions from 2004 on and I tell you wether you made those 1.5k yourself or not.
And considering your replies and other transactions you put more money into Gaben ass than any sane person would want to.

Maybe he already has the lighthouses

cock pit games and porn

Imagine talking a gang of shit for several months on end only to get BTFO at each and every chance you have to prove your retarded assertion is right
Can't blame poorniggers for coping as hard as they are, it's how they rationalize being poor, the man is keeping them down, they're not ACTUALLY retarded

You need at least one lighthouse for tracking, it doesn't work by itself.

>Meanwhile, Quest reviews are calling it the next big thing in VR
Are these the people who said VR would become the next big thing?

>Where were you when Facebook won the VR race?
>literally no one ever talks about vr+facebook
Wew, lad.

the market didn't exist in 2004. my only purchase from between 2004 and 2009-ish was hl2 silver. then market showed up in what... 2012? and i sold tf2 crates and kept reinvesting the money.

I'd rather pay the £350 for a regualr Rift than the £400 for the Rift S desu
I do want an Index but as I currently have a Rift I don't see it being worth the £919. If I had a Vive so I'd haev the basestations already I'd have got one desu

That makes sense, and I know where you're coming from with the Rift Sensors being ass because I did the same thing you did before giving up and accepting the deadzones.

Threadly reminder;
Anti-VR is leftist agenda.
In other news; The Valve Index recieves poor reception from the logical people as it is solely targetted towards developers and those who already own a variation of the HTC Vive.
The full set only exists to placate those who would otherwise question having the parts be sold seperately as well as to catch those with cash in excess to burn and/or have a real investment in developing for it's future succesors.

>le I flipped tf2 caches
enjoy your VR toy you worthless bastard

>Anti-VR is leftist agenda.

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kek thanks bud. don't worry, if the vr sucks ass i'll blast valve on youtube and then sell it off.

>Anti-VR is leftist agenda.
Last I checked, pro-VRfags are all soibois, so you're wrong.

I don't want to fall into delusional hype.

BUT

It is bizarre how Index seems designed for eye tracking, with Valve explicitly pointing out the large sweet spot in a wide FOV.

why would I worry? Personally I dont give a shit about VR, I only replied because I wanted to see wether you made those 1.5k or not by yourself. And you didn't of course. So that's that.

it's a high markup, hugely disappointing.

is bullshit but wouldn't surprise me.

Do you know what goes on inside those things? They're not just standard sensors. They're mechanical and have spinning parts inside them (like a lighthouse's beacon)

This but unironically

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The correct move here is to buy index HMD+knuckles and get the 1.0 lighthouses for cheap.
Even if you can't find them for a good deal, buying the lighthouse 2.0's separately is the same exact cost as in the bundle.

WHERE
ARE
THE
FUCKING
GAMES?
IT'S BEEN 5 FUCKING FUCK YEARS AND WE LITERALLY HAVE MORE HEADSETS THAN KILLER VR GAMES THAT ACTUALLY SELL SYSTEMS ON PC AND WHAT IS THERE IS HALF FINISHED CRAP
2D MONITORS HAVE 165HZ NEXT GEN NANO IPS AND QUANTUMN VA PANELS YET THERE IS NO DECENT ALL ROUND VR HEADSET AND IT'S LL WIRED CRAP AHHHHHHH
FUCKING MAKE A FUCKING DECENT HEADSET AND SOME GOOD GAMES IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK

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so tsundere.

This is the right price, but all the games I'm looking forward to are on the PSVR, Blood and Truth and Everybody's Golf which PC players can't play because they don't get AAA games.
Sometimes, late at night, I feel sad for PCVR players, but then I shake it off and fire up my PS4 and silently laugh at PCVR people as I play Borderlands 2 VR.