The last of us 2 would benefit greatly from a scene in which Ellie is stripped down and bent over to be raped by a...

This thread theme is way older than Yea Forums doing about Raimi newfag

its just eceleb shit.

Matthewmatosis

Who?

What's funny is in the setting of TLoU rape would be common as fuck and gangs would definitely have captive females.

But no devs will touch on that anymore.
They hinted at it in TLoU but that was it.

Matthewmatosis

How fat do you think she is?

>Zachtronics makes games for intelligent people, as such no disgusting niggers are allowed to even watch this video, let alone play these masterpieces.
>Zach consistently engages the superior white brain with his incredible games and the design of each is unique, unlike how every nigger is the same
Jesus Matt that was a bit far

she sounds like she fucks black guys while poor little autistic irish bois watch from the corner of the room

> Speaking of Ghost Trick, the 6 million figure commonly tossed around as the total number of Jewish supposed victims killed during the so-called Holocaust is a greatly improbable and could be considered the greatest "trick" propagated in the 20th century.

Woah, cool it with the anti-Semitism, Matthew

But Dark Souls 2 is the best souls game, and the B-team has already proven themselves better than A-team. Just see the shitshow that is DS3.

Why has every attempted defense of DS2 turned into B-BUH DS3!!!

are the fromsoftwarefags STILL seething over him not being into sekiro?

I thought he said he was enjoying it, or something to that affect?

he didn't think it was bad just that it's more of the same

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soulsfags are of course triggered autists

It basically continued everything he said he wanted the Souls series to deviate from in his video about Demon's Souls, so you could probably just watch that video to get a sense of how he feels about it.

The Lost Arts video was so fucking bad, probably his only bad video

>The Lost Arts video was so fucking good, probably his best video
Fixed.

They're still seeting over the The Lost Arts of Demon's Souls video.
He's not wrong tho.

This but uniroincally but the opposite because that video was awful

literally how so? everything he said was objectively true, combat isn't souls games strong point, yet as the games have progressed they've relied on it more and more without really adding much

Dark Souls babbys BTFO.

Try using critical thinking for once Matt

Stupid newfag.

very few things make me feel tfw no gf but matthew's streams really hurt me

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His whole argument in the Lost Arts video is based around the axiom of souls combat not being that good and the elements surrounding it being what makes Souls great instead. He says that the game focusing on action feels counterproductive when the core combat is far from the strongest aspect of it.
The problem with transporting that thought to Sekiro is that Sekiro actually changed the formula to suit a action focused experience. It's not trying to have a engrossing and immersive atmosphere like Souls does (evidenced by things like non-diegetic audio playing everywhere now and NPCs being unkillable), it's trying to be a action adventure game with focus on fighting game esque 1x1 mechanics, and it's great at doing that. You can't just say now ''I rather play a better action game'' when Sekiro is its own brand of action, very different from the likes of Bayonetta and DMC which are more combo based.

Moreover, he says that From Soft should either focus on action or go back to its roots, but that regardless, they should pursue something new. Again, that's exactly what the company did.

He's entitled to his opinion about the game, but using the same argument from Lost Arts to Sekiro is basically just him admitting that he's annoyed the company doesn't appeal to his tastes personally.

Who’s on first?

Sekiro is still a shitty action game. It's made for soul babbys and people who don't normally play action games.

Podcast of the century coming soon with /our guy/ Mecha. Hope he asks about the Jingle all the Way review.

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Tbh I don't want him to make a video on Sekiro because well, he doesn't want to, but saying that the same things he said in the Lost Arts video apply to Sekiro is kind of dumb, I don't even like the game but it is trying to do something different from the other Souls games (and Bloodborne), it even has a different name and all.

I played every DMC, every Bayoneta, MGR, some NG games and most Platinum games and I find Sekiro combat more satisfying than all those games. I won't say it's necessarily better though, it's just different and it can be seen as better or worse depends on what ground you use for comparison.

> Dark Souls 2 is the best game From has ever made

Kill yourself you autistic faggot

> Combat isn't souls games strong point?
Are you literally high? Souls rescued the industry from the dark ages of button mashing and qtes. The souls games are the first 3d games where I said "wow, this combat is as good as a 2d game, but in 3d

Dark Souls 2 is shit.
Dark Souls 3 is shit.
Both Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls are much better than both.
Move on.

>The souls games are the first 3d games where I said "wow, this combat is as good as a 2d game, but in 3d
I can't imagine anyone saying this and being serious about it so plz explain.

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>Breath of the wild, despite its dedication to freedom, never let me sniff the cunny of the pseudo-loli in Haitano Village. Overall, this shattered my immersion beyond repair, and made forced me to eject the game card, place it into my ass, and never play it again
What a horrible person

Matthew argues in the video that the combat is just fairly decent, but it's elevated by the elements surrounding it. The reason you find Souls combat so good isn't because of the core combat itself but due to the other design decisions which pull you more into the experience. The combat itself is fairly simplistic.

you dont know what you are talking about
the SCENARIO design is what you mean.
>This combat is as good as a 2D game
not only are you completely fucking incorrect but an underaged retard. Theres very few combat mechanics. You hit, dodge, block and parry. Thats it. Watch the fucking video dumbass, you quite literally didnt understand

a punishing combat system does not equate to a good combat system

I've yet to really see a cohesive argument against that video honestly

You must understand that souls babbys are RPG kids and never played a proper action game in their life. Dark Souls was their first exposure to action games, so they view it as the best thing since sliced bread. Don't take what they say too seriously.

B-Team made DS3; check the credits
A-Team was working on Sekiro at the time.

>tfw i entered a souls thread and triggered everyone by arguing skyrim had more depth to it's combat than literally every souls games

I got so many (you)s that day, this was before matthew's video even came out and everyone realized how simplistic and shallow souls combat is

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Name a 3D ARPG that came out before Demon's Souls and doesn't have shit awful combat. If it exists, I've certainly never played it. I remember playing Ocarina of Time as a kid and thinking "man, this is a cool game, but the combat just isn't as good as the 2d zeldas" and that pretty much remained true of every 3d action game I played up to Dark Souls

Literally every 3d zelda has better combat though...?

Complexity=/=quality, you spaz. Souls games have deliberately simple combat and that's what allows for it to be well-balanced and impactful.

Souls doesn't have a great combat system but it's certainly better than Skyrim. I don't even know if I agree with the notion that Skyrim has more depth, it really depends what you mean with that, but even if you make a contrived argument to reach this point, depth doesn't necessarily mean quality. a game can have the most complex system in existence and still be garbage to play.

i know but its getting to a point where its not even fucking funny anymore
im 23 and these fucking kids make me feel 30. You faggot dark souls teens ruined one of the best communities in years

Does it actually have more depth in its combat than the Souls games though? Both look kind of around the same level but I haven't played a lot of Skyrim (I think I just did one playthrough, maybe almost two).

>ARPG
Uhhhhhhhhh... Have a nice day or night.

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>but the combat just isn't as good as the 2d zeldas
hey retard
zelda isnt about the combat
zelda is not an ACTION game
its an ADVENTURE game
it is not based 100% on COMBAT like FIGHTING GAMES or ACTION games

There have been literally dozens of games with combat better than demons/dark souls from 2000-2009. just because you didnt fucking play any doesnt mean they dont count

dark souls didnt fucking reinvent the wheel nigga it was just a wheel

I know but I chose my battle correctly and ass blasted everyone.

Skyrim has more depth in that there is more you can do, and more things interact with other things to create results. (i.e enchanting a bow, to steal an enemies soul, and then reviving that enemy with a spell to have him attack his comrades)

I'd argue that holds more depth to it than anything possible in souls combat, although I do agree on the whole, souls combat is better just because it demands more of the player in the moment to moment.

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If the combat was great it wouldn't be such a pain to fight more than one enemy at once.

As someone who loves zelda, this is not true. Even as a kid I recognized Ocarina of time through wind waker had braindead lock on and spam sword/bow combat.
The fact that souls combat's relatively simple but still has a lot of depth is what makes it good

Servicable =/= worth the focus of the entire franchise
The best thing about Demons Souls was thst it said 'fuck you' to the player in novel ways by having the challange of bossfights be in strategy rather than mechanics. Later soulsgames choose mechanical challenge, which only serve to show their limitations, rather than being a foundation for something more unique.

but youre objectively wrong?
>fuck off retard
>HAHA YESS I WAS ONLY PRETENDING!

>newfriend
go back

The depth is actually about the same. Light attack, heavy attack, combos, block, shield bash, dodge roll, etc. Skyrim enemies aren't designed to be beaten by superior play, however. It's all stat-based.

Shitposting aside, it's more like most people can't properly conceptualize why they like something. They tend to associate their enjoyment of something with its most visible elements even when those weren't necessarily the biggest factors for their enjoyment. It's why people meme so much about Souls combat and difficulty, those are just the most noticeable things.

>the combat is just fairly decent, but it's elevated by the elements surrounding it.
What's wrong with that if it's the only reason to play these games? Everything he argued as a positive in Demon's Souls was done better in King's Field anyway.

>As someone who loves zelda, this is not true. Even as a kid I recognized Ocarina of time through wind waker had braindead lock on and spam sword/bow combat.

Ah and dark souls with its revolutionary non-braindead lock on and spam soul arrow/WotG comba-
oh right

Just no, user. Zelda combat is absolute garbage.

Zelda games with good combat don't exist. If the Souls games need more than just combat to be at least decent, Zelda needs it even more.

Zelda is an action/adventure game. Combat is one of the major pillars of the game. That's why there are enemies everywhere and a boss at the end of every dungeon. I'm not blaming the early zelda games for having shit combat. It was the best they could do at the time since 3d combat hadn't been "figured out". But compared to actual good combat like souls it's still shit combat. Also, notice that four people have replied as of me writing this comment but no one has actually named any game that disproves my point

2D Zelda is brainless hack and slashing though, 3D Zelda on the other hand gives you a bunch of options and even enemies that are made easier through using certain items like the deku nuts.

>zelda
>can use a variety of items to take out your enemy, or just use your sword
>souls
>use your sword

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Slightly difficult, but I read it in his voice.

Spacing and positioning actually matters in 2d zelda. In 3d zelda you can just turtle behind your shield infinitely and if you get hit it does half a beart of damage.

Why anime girl posters are always the most retarded people in any thread?

Low quality bait but it made me reply, extra point for that, 3/10.

Their third eye's open and have obtained swiss miss

This has got to be a troll... right? Dark Souls has over 200 different weapons you can use compared to having only a sword as your primary weapon in zelda.

blacks and irish werent viewed as sub-humans by columbians
they were seen as just another beast of burden,like an ox or horse, put on earth by god to take care and be taken care of
they werent actually racist

wow 200 weapons I can use to roll, hit the enemy once or twice, back away, and then repeat that process until it's dead

very cool

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Yeah, lol I rewatched that vid the other week and even I was like hot DAMN MATT! it sucks the culture has shifted so much in just a few years.

Nine replies and counting. Still no mention of a pre-2009 arpg that doesn't have shitty combat. Souls haters btfo

I love how you can't even have a YouTube channel anymore where you say your OPINION without an autistic doofus screeching at you. Let him say whatever he wants. Who cares. It's fucking YouTube guys, not Channel 11 news.

Matthew has literally never been wrong about any video game except Pathologic

It's not fair. How come Matt gets to fuck his sister?

Yeah, it is very cool.
Being overly reductionist is a bad faith argument and anyone can make literally every single game look shit by doing so; you're really not impressing anyone.

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my point was more being that souls weapons differences don't matter for shit because the play style remains the same regardless

unlike skyrim

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My wife, Eleanor.

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What's his take on Pathologic? I presume he just didn't get into it

High number of things to interact doesn't necessarily translate into good gameplay or depth. It only does so if the interactions are substantial and meaningful. Saints Row 4 has countless skills, weapons, vehicles and etc for you to use but none of that translates into solid gameplay because the way they interact with the game isn't fun or substantial.

Souls has better combat than Skyrim not only because of its difficulty and careful planned level design but because it does a lot more with a lot less.

And btw, Skyrim melee combat wouldn't feel good to play even if the game had a billion different tools because the strikes have no impact and feel absolutely clunky.

KH2FM

KMFDM

>Demon's Souls was done better in King's Field anyway.
Fuck off faggot you probably never played those games.

Since he won't make a video on Sekiro because he claimed that it'd just repeat alot of the stuff he already said in the Lost Art of Demon's Souls video, I do wonder what he did have issues with. I'm assuming it's stuff like the excessive amount of sculpture idols hampering exploration or the combat lacking depth or something.

>Souls haters btfo
>replied to me
Dark Souls 1 is my favorite game ever and Demon's Souls easily gets in the top 5 so, yeah.
But we're talking combat here, buddy, like, *just* combat, a combat that is fairly limited, the most interesting thing you can do in the Souls games is prepare for a combat (what levels do you upgrade, what items will you use, that kind of stuff) after that is just R1 or R2, roll sometimes, maybe parry. It is very limited compared to, you know, action games, and that's the problem Matt was talking about in his videos, the games were focusing too much in action instead of what makes the games special.

You know what? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. I've always been a PC+Nintendo guy so I never played those games. Maybe the combat is good. But even if it is, those games are nothing like Souls, so it doesn't negate the fact that Souls was revolutionary and the first of its kind.

Weapons have different ranges, animations (angle, speed and recovery), stats and stat requirements. If you're not being a reductio ad absurdum sophist you'd realize that those all change your play style in how you move, approach enemies, when and how often you attack and defend (if you defend at all) as well as how you distribute stats.

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Could Souls babies handle Critical, level one, Data Org, and Lingering Will?

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>unlike skyrim
Ehhhhhh, do the weapons really change the play style in Skyrim?
Do they?

He doesn't even make videos, just sit on his fat irish sisterwife and eat patreon burgers

Souls games are action games, not ARPGs. I'm amazed that anyone could try to defend them like that when their ""RPG elements"" are even more under baked than their combat.