The curse of life is the curse of want

>falling for the dragon meme
OH NONONONONONONONO
I SHIGGY

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It's more that death is inevitable no matter what you do and trying to stop it will only make it worse.

Then throw yourself into a vat of acid

Your word "improve" is open to discussion.

It improved at being more able to want

If you ever got cursed, you should unironically kill yourself, you shitter garbage casual troglodyte humonuclus.

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the world of DaS would've been better off if the player never played it, no fire gets linked, no gods in power, just the world fading away as it was meant to be

Looks kinda like alien tiddies lol

you can't prove we weren't

you made the original claim, i didn't and therein lies the whole difference. you can't expect to get away with such sweeping statements and then "no u" your way out of it.

That's how they get you.

lmao

is desire what defines life?

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actually, those big orange eyeball looking things aren’t its eyes

I wasn't the original user you were talking to. also you can't prove or disprove a negative either way if you are right about it or I am right.

then what are they?

Being that the world’s story is infinite it doesn’t matter whether the player is involved in the equation. Any random undead could have been the chosen.

the earth is NOT flat
the universe is older than 10 thousand years

tiddies to lure in the horny incels

that goes without saying. the true conclusion is to not say stupid shit in the first place, not to engage in pedantry.

I think those are its poison glands

glad we are in agreement

im gladder than you

nuh uh

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>The earliest direct evidence of life on Earth are microfossils of microorganisms permineralized in 3.465-billion-year-old Australian Apex chert rocks.[7][8]
>Tyrell, Kelly April (18 December 2017). "Oldest fossils ever found show life on Earth began before 3.5 billion years ago". University of Wisconsin–Madison. Retrieved 18 December 2017.
>Schopf, J. William; Kitajima, Kouki; Spicuzza, Michael J.; Kudryavtsev, Anatolly B.; Valley, John W. (2017). "SIMS analyses of the oldest known assemblage of microfossils document their taxon-correlated carbon isotope compositions". PNAS. 115 (1): 53–58. Bibcode:2018PNAS..115...53S. doi:10.1073/pnas.1718063115. PMC 5776830. PMID 29255053.
I can make a much better case then you can of anything to the contrary.

>literally citing wikipedia
>scientism
you presuppose that scientists actually know what they're doing and are being truthful about it, for which there is little evidence. 50% of peer-reviewed studies are fake.
>inb4 YOU DARE QUESTION SCIENCE?!???????
yes, i do when there's a history of proven fakery.

Unless you go full UBERMENSCH like the end of DaSII and move out of the cycle of link, decay, link to a realm where undead curse becomes a miracle thanks to Vendrick's blessing and you are literally unable to die as you create a new world free from this cycle

> 50% of peer-reviewed studies are fake
citation required

>scientists ... know what they are doing
lets call it an educated guess

and by all means question everything

The citations aren't from wikipedia; it's two peer reviewed papers on the fossil record.
>"The papers are fake! Fuck you!"
The 50% figure isn't about fake papers, it's about data is shown to have some empirical flaws. Geology isn't a field typically affected and the second paper has over 40 citations, so it has been thoroughly reviewed and corroborated.
Either way, even a chance of evidence, no matter if there is a chance of empirical flaw, is better then your complete lack of evidence.

Really enjoyed this aspect of II.
That's more so an idea in III, but they don't go all out on this idea unfortunately.

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He's talking about another paper that indicates that 50% of papers could contain a single flaw. The "they're fake" shit is something he cooked up in his head from Jesus camp.

Well user, supposedly the very first organisms to exist on earth were stromatolites. Before they came along, the earth was covered in hot shallow ocean and in it were the components for life (certain elements and molecules). It was a soup or sludge that cooked and reacted in a way which eventually begot the first life. That's how it's told in most geology textbooks.

Not before I throw you faggot

>fossils of microbacteria
>this rock cleavage looks somewhat similar to the shape which one of seventeen million bacteria makes, therefore it is evidence of life
this is literally aliens-on-mars tier shit.

lpi.usra.edu/publications/slidesets/marslife/slide_29.html
lpi.usra.edu/publications/slidesets/marslife/slide_31.html
lpi.usra.edu/publications/slidesets/marslife/slide_28.html

look it up, the studies are completely unreproducable. you can have a peer reviewed study say anything you want - so you're right, question everything.
>lets call it an educated guess
educated by what measure? the fact that "scientists" get away with fakery proves that you can't take them at their word. academia in general has little to do with actual learnedness and more to do with ass kissery, money and politics.
>MUH PEER-REVIEWED PAPERS
50% chance that there is fakery afoot in both of them, lol. the fact is that even if they are telling the truth as they believe it, there's no way for them to prove it: ultimately, it's guesswork and our understanding of the world is in a constant state of change based on our current technology. either way what you cited says nothing about primordial soup (which is also just a theory). i find it funny how offended you are that someone would question scientists... it truly is the new religion.
>The 50% figure isn't about fake papers, it's about data is shown to have some empirical flaws
that's a very funny way of saying "50% chance of lies/incompetency that renders the paper largely or completely invalid".
everything you just said is guesswork/theorizing. i want to know the truth too, i just can't trust science anymore. there's "science" that says trannies are a natural part of life therefor we must accept them.. peer-reviewed studies "prove" it too!

I love how you're willing to be cynical about primordial microorganism life, but your answer to that is a deity with literally zero evidence. Aliens being on Mars is nonironically a prospect of greater likelihood than God in Heaven. Since we have zero evidence of God at all, the stupid bacteria rock on Mars wins.

mfw this guy actually believes that uttering the words "peer-reviewed paper" must immediately dispell any confusion about the validity of his claims

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>mocks religion
>employs the religion of scientism in defense of "the data"
hmm

>if you reject MY position you MUST agree with this other position!
>that position is more retarded than mine, therefore mine is better by default

science

The 50% isn't faked; it's flawed data, ranging from everything definitions, models, presentation of negatives, outcomes, etc... and it's not 50% of the data. Secondly, it is more applicable to new data in the last ten years. Furthermore according to the actual paper itself:
>In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller.
--the fields effected most are dumb shit like tranny studies and sociology. Hard science is less evocative of these sorts of errors and it is a large field where studies as typically corroborated and found to be in-line with one another and based on EVIDENCE and not studies.

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This. Anti-natalist fags don't deserve the exquisite gift of life.

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What if life on Mars came from micro bacterial life on Earth (created by God)

How low does your IQ have to be to consider life a gift? Maybe you are a privileged parasite who gets handed everything but tons of people out there have bad luck and get nothing but suffering in life.

The idea in 3 is that "all good things must end". It was also a meta commentary about how the series felt fresh in the beginning but now it's "rotting" from repeating the cycle too much.
The whole thing about the girl painting a new world was a reference to how the creators of the souls series need to make a new kind of game. She needed to see fire (inspiration) one more time to be able to do it.

Well, no shit. 'Peer review' is a masturbatory practice popularized by social """scientists""" in order to make it seem like they are actually doing real science despite never seeming to be able to recreate a single experiment with statistically similar results in the known history of their field.

I have no problem with gods or religion, I'm just reasonably cynical and doubtful of them. If the data is proven wrong and god is proven right tomorrow, great. I'm not worried about it frankly.
>greentext thing other person says reading it back to them without introducing anything.
>this is supposed to mean something.
Good job.
>too retarded to greentext.
Good job.

hard science... you mean like how we "used to be soup"? so this is is science, huh.. hmm
>taking issue with specific words used
fake/flawed/not real. it all means the same shit, you're just trying to minimize the fact that science has been co-opted by politics, money and incompetence
spotted the bitter atheist. the issue in life isn't suffering, it's how you react to it. you act like a bitch, therefore you are one.

Good thing geology isn't an experiment in that case. Studies and experiment models can always be wonky... empirical fields aren't.

how does it feel seath?

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>the issue in life isn't suffering, it's how you react to it
spoken like a standard privileged parasite that has never experienced actual suffering, but rather minor setbacks that he exaggerates to pretend he has overcome hardships. you are scum.

>Undead Curse is really the Curse of Want
>Even before Hollowing, Undead suffer from a compulsion to acquire more and more things, even if the reason why isn't very clear
>Dragons considered to be immune to the Curse, hence why Undead pursue the Path of the Dragon/why Aldia believes research into Dragons may hold a cure/booster to the Curse
>Primordial Serpents are described as being somewhat related to the Ancient Dragons
>Primordial Serpents are also referred to as avatars of greed and gluttony, aspects derived from the base emotion of Desire, ie Want
>Primordial Serpents are simply Dragons that have been afflicted with the Curse of Want, the Undead Curse

In other words, Aldia pretty much wasted all his time on Dragon research when Dragons themselves were just as susceptible to the Curse as any other being was

Furthermore, people who believe the Curse was Gwyn's fault are literal Dark-fags that foolishly think they wouldn't be anything but feedgrain for Serpents and Insects in an age of Dark--Gwyn was a dick, but the Curse was around before he even threw himself into the Flame, and realistically is actually at it's worst when the Flame starts to fade, indicating it's root in Darkness
By being Undead and cursed to be remade again and again, Serpents and Insects have a food supply that is too resilient to be wiped out but too mindless to fight back

>he thinks using the world "geology" proves we used to be soup
what kinda soup? mushroom perhaps?

Pure data tells me life is a gift. Endless beautiful ecstasy. Everything I want, given to me by virtue of hard work, and the love of others. Truly life is good for those who are not lazy or retarded.

I aint no munky didt come from no munky nether

Adopt buddhism idiot

you reek of insecurity, despair and jealousy. you are the reason why you are miserable.

That's the DLC. Outside the DLC, the Pontiff had already won. Friede, presumably the only other Unkindled who could challenge him, fled to Ariandel. There are echoes of this in the dialogue of Vilhelm and Shira.

>Woe is me, you have never known true suffering like I have
was right, you are quite a faggot

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>80 IQ just world fallacy facebook "wisdom"
never gets old. you deserve to have nightmare levels of misfortune, smug trailer trash

Rate from best to worst:
Curse
Frenzy
Terror

You need to be more positive; can you honestly say that you are a good influence on the people around you with that attitude?
Also I like videogames.

I didn't call anyone soup.
Geology has never been commandeered by politics because it's not a political field and the study of the fossil record and radiocarbon started in the 40's finding organisms millions of old even then. You're actively trying to cloud the issue by implying that sciences are compromised. Hard sciences aren't effected, and the figure you're using, the paper that you believe (that is in-and-of-itself a social and study/sample-based paper) says this is an issue in smaller social fields.
You need to argue in good faith and not dishonestly.

eastern philosophy is self refuting garbage nonsense, just peak nihilism. buddha was a rich kid, thats the only way you can actually engage in it, completely financial security.
lol you're so bitter it's funny to witness

You're being too literal. The curse isn't LITERAL want, it's that being alive means one is always wanting. Nashandra wanted to covet the First Flame instead of being content to live by Vendrick's side.

All available information suggests evil and stupid people get to enjoy life more (business school parasites, networkers, actors, models, athletes, etc), and all of the people who actually support civilization (laborers) suffer endlessly with no payout at the end.

>still minimizing
face it, science is your religion.

Hello

What is "world geology"?
And does it prove? No. but nothing can be proven at all ever, so I suppose that's fine... but going forward we use the best data available to us and try to learn more instead of sitting on our laurels.

>empirical fields aren't wonky
Chemists were discovering the weight of the electron in a charge-to-mass ratio at the same time they still believed light propagated through the presence of a luminiferous aether

>nothing can be proven at all ever
this is an amazing line to use when you want to announce losing a debate, lmao. you just ceded that science is pointless (which it isn't)

We were made as a food-source for a Higher Being that feeds off of our deaths not much unlike a soulfeeder in this very series, all our developments and discoveries have already been done in the past, our existence is cyclical.

what are you basing this off of? something you heard in a video game or on r/atheism?

Frenzy
Curse
Terror

Nothing, it's just something I think is cool yet sad, so I'd like it to be true.

You're the one minimizing.
You're saying some data in some fields is corrupted thus all data is corrupted.
This would also imply half of all religious scripture is corrupted--arguably more since it was politically and motive driven.
I'm not particularly against god, that's the best part. Religion is a scam, but belief isn't.

positive people don't even deserve to be called intolerable

It's a modern application of deist theology to adapt for contemporary events such as abortion movement.

you actually like frenzy? why?

Who's losing? In all debates you vote on the greater likelihood based on evidence to which you have none and can't present any. If you want to say "well, you can't prove this" you might as well go full Cartesian since you're so willing to dismiss anything resembling evidence just to keep an arbitrary belief "in the game."

What is deist theology?

When I saw the thumbnail, I unironically thought ut was a girl in a breast yoke

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The fuck? We all get nothing but suffering. It's a cold, indifferent universe waiting to kill us all. That's not nihilism, it's fact. Worms eat the rich and the poor. But life is a gift because we all have the ability to make it better. Maybe not by much, maybe in paradigm shattering ways. You honestly think Martin Luther grew up thinking he'd break the most powerful organization of all time? Or that George Washington signed up for military service to topple the largest empire in history? And those are equally moves on the behalf of good as giving a sandwich to a bum or helping an old lady reach high up at the grocery store.

I help people when I can, I don't tear others down. I try to teach my kids to not be assholes and I don't let my shitty lot in life sour me. I'll never be rich or famous. I barely scrape by. But then my son will laugh or my daughter will hug me and it's worth it. The blood and sweat of my efforts are a gift because I get to be here for them at least a while longer.

Being a bitter little cunt about how hard you have it when the entirety of human history is at your fingertips, you aren't hungry, you aren't scared a warlord is going to butcher you tonight...fuck you pal. You have it better than 99% of every human that ever lived. The poorest people on the planet live better than the average 200 years ago. Get over yourself. Life is great if your head isn't jammed up your bleeding twat.

>He thinks that he got what he has from hard work when tons of people work just as hard or harder and get jack shit.

enough of peer-reviewed studies are fake to a sufficient degree that they cannot be called upon as a source of evidence as readily as you do. at best you could use them as a point of reference... which is not evidence, just a point of view. thats the whole point.
we need to get onto the real issues, like the truth about 9/11, iraq/afghanistan, the moon landing and whatever other government lies we are being fed. since you won't find peer-reviewed studies about any of those things i suppose you find them impossible to question lmao
the fact that society is ruled over by a satanic elite doesn't mean we have to assume their world view

Kuhn theorized about this at length. Science goes through paradigm shifts when a new model is discovered, so you have to throw out a lot of bathwater. That's the thing about science, you change it as you go. We don't use Newtonian physics anymore, but a great deal of what Newton discovered is still around.

pure delusion. must be amazing to be dumb enough to swallow all this nonsense

frenzy is interesting
curse is alright
terror is kinda boring

>point of the game being that the journey and the struggle are their own reward
>game misses this very same point by having tons of different weapons, armors, rings and shit to collect along the way
Why did modern devs forget how to make progression rewarding wit out shitty rpg mechanics or shit to clutter your inventory?

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>You have it better than 99% of every human that ever lived
false. this is some real basic bitch "fiscal-conservative" "GDP is the true measure of human happiness!" garbage
i would rather be materially poor and spiritually rich than middle class and godless. the death of christianity in europe is the entire reason why it's been invaded by muslims... and THAT is a significant issue that may never be resolved. you're worrying about things that don't actually matter. either kill yourself or start working on improving your life, you sad sack

What the absolute fuck are you talking about?

Actually when I think about it, Frenzy probably would make more sense in Sekiro since itäs a line of sight thing. It would fit in line with the lite stealth theme. Terror and curse are basically the same thing but at least curse gives you a cool stone statue thing.

people who believe in god are legit dumb as fuck. it's the most obvious example of "ignorance is bliss."

>bitter little cunt
its in my nature

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>enough of peer-reviewed studies are fake to a sufficient degree that they cannot be called upon as a source of evidence as readily as you do
Wrong. 50% of papers in obscure social fields about social and gender studies having flaws in the last ten years doesn't invalidate thousands journals that have been written since the 40s about geology and the fossil record. This is active hand-waving and dismissal. There are literally hundreds of thousands of fossil exhibits that corroborate.
>like the truth about 9/11, iraq/afghanistan, the moon landing and whatever other government lies we are being fed
I see. You're insane.
The fossil record is not motivated by this sort of thing.

>people who believe in god are legit dumb as fuck
interesting perspective coming from someone who is completely miserable. please, tell me more about how to live a good life!
and don't forget to tip your fedora :)

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>obscure social fields
wishful thinking
>thousands of journals
scientism: science as a religion: more wishful thinking
>This is active hand-waving and dismissal
weird how you don't realize the projection
>There are literally hundreds of thousands of fossil exhibits that corroborate.
again, assuming that scientists know what they're doing and are being truthful about it
>I see. You're insane.
more hand-waving and dismissal, huh?
its people like you that would have burned people like me back in the day :)
question everything... EXCEPT science!

>You have it better than 99% of every human that ever lived. The poorest people on the planet live better than the average 200 years ago.
If you have to tell people this then isn't it clearly not true? There's a segment of the population for which this is true (parasitic, handsome, lucky, totally worthless), but clearly there were people in the past far happier than the average is now. Clearly it's not necessarily worse to live in a small town in the 1800s than it is to be an average slave nobody in 2019. The reasons for that are numerous.

>The first souls game is ds1 remaster
>Make it to these assholes and get cursed
>Didn't know I could buy stones in ub
>Replayed at least three times without knowing of stones
>be me

Having a good life is not respectable in the least, nor is it an indication of having accurate beliefs. Happy people are always either dumb or lucky.

I have been mentally ill my entire life, I have tried to get better tons of times and failed, it wasn't until I started treatment that involves spending 12 hours at a hospital Mondays to Fridays 9 months ago that I understood that I nor any psychologist/psychatrist could have been able to fix this shit.
I'm now 26 years old, I still have at least three years of treatment left until I can start living my life in a proper way
I feel I have been truly cursed and I haven't experienced having free will once I my life, am I fucking alive? Or can life really be absolute dread too?

the fact that you still think a "good life" is about what you believe and not how you feel and how you live says everything about how ignorant you are. i'm probably right in assuming you're a veritable black cloud and wet blanket on everyone around you.

The worst part is your mental illness was most likely caused to you by evil people who will never face justice.

>Why am I a miserable asshole?
>It must be because I'm better than everyone else
You are a tragic person, user. You only suffer because you refuse to fix your miserable life.

artausa.org/choosing-a-residential-mental-health-facility/

>more hand-waving and dismissal
>declaring people as mentally ill because no arguments
the powerful argumentation skills of a practitioner of Scientism! burn this heretic who dared question peer-reviewed studies!

Why did they make curse a useless effect in ds3? Used to shrink your hp back in dark souls, fighting the basilisks was actually scary because of this. And yet they removed the mechanic and dumbed down their game, why. I don't understand.

>Gain control over cortisol
>Win at life

delusions of grandeur?

no really though, do you feel people are out to get you. are they coming to burn you at the stake right now? if so please seek help

fixing a miserable life isn't really a thing because by the time you do it you've already missed out on all the good years and you'll always be behind the rat parasites who started out with advantages

*the blessing of want
Dopamine is the only thing you enjoy, meatsack. Might as well git gud at procuring things that stimulate its release, do you won't be a depressed wannabe commie who wants happiness handed to them for the extraordinary achievement of fucking existing.

>gain control over cortisol
>lose anyway to all the people who never had bad luck to begin with, and never had to spend decades achieving normalcy
lol

trans humanism when?!

There used to be games where you didn't level up or acquired any new gear in the entire campaign, devs used to reward exploration with
>cool environmental design
>Easter eggs
>more lore
>getting to experience something extra like hearing two henchmen talk
>extra boss battles
I always felt that the amount of chests and body's with loot in the game take away more than they add, I feel the same way about the massive amount of items, the game doesn't need more than a few sets of armour and a couple weapons, they could reward you for completing some hard part or reaching a hard to reach place some other way

>wishful thinking.
It's not wishful thinking: it was in the paper you're citing actually. Smaller experimental fields were the ones being scrutinized. It is mostly healthcare and sociology. Here's the study: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/
The source you're using as the base to attack studies in general cedes that is confined to smaller fields.
>scientism: science as a religion: more wishful thinking
Truly, you're the one that is wishfully thinking since religion is only wishes with not even flawed evidence. The beauty of science is you don't have to due on a hill like a zealot. The fact that you're typing on a machine right now means that science works pretty well all things considered. I hope you don't eat fish on a friday, masturbate, and follow the 21 Sacraments of Paul.
>weird how you don't realize the projection
You have presented nothing to hand-wave frankly. You won't present anything because I don't have to hand-wave it when there will likely be a full debunking out there. Your whole argument is built around a paper that you believe to be true that asserts some science papers are wrong, even though the author cedes it is to a specific place specific fields. Even if 50% is wrong, you don't even need papers. You can just point to the exhibits themselves with their corroborated data.
>again, assuming that scientists know what they're doing and are being truthful about it
Geology is a field where people spend their whole lives looking for things. It's the field with the best chance of finding any evidence of of a deity. It's not a field of sensationalism or social upheaval.
>more hand-waving and dismissal, huh? its people like you that would have burned people like me back in the day :) question everything... EXCEPT science!
That's the beauty of science--you always question it. You think I'm stuck to it, but you're just waiting around for one of Kuhn's scientific revolutions. Only a fool is attached to a belief even in data

>questioning peer-reviewed studies makes you mentally ill
hmm

again, either kill yourself or start fixing things. there's no middle ground. nobody wants to listen to shit like this. i bet you also wonder why you have no friends or support. lol. that kind of mentality tears other people down, you are literally a danger to other people

i'm not going to bother reading your entire strawman of a post.
2 points:
science has become a religion
peer-reviewed studies cannot be trusted
be well, my scientism friend!

Must have terrible vision then with that nonexistent neck it has.

>nobody wants to listen to shit like this
the world's unlucky people want to listen to shit like this, and their only real option is to work to tear down the people who undeservedly have more.

I would run too if I was horse-whipped as bad as you were my plucky friend.
A scientist would hop on the god bandwagon if it ever showed up, but I don't think that'll be happening in the lifetime of this planet. Be well and know this:
Fossils themselves aren't studies--they're raw evidence. And inevitably, that's all that matters.

not you "questioning peer-review" its you talking about being burned at the stake. you seem to have some kind of martyr complex. and you don't seem to understand there are more than one user in this thread.

>completely give up and post this as your argument erodes to save face.
ggs breh

19yo libertarians have to discuss capitalism in unrelated video game threads because they literally have no one to speak to

i really doubt there has ever been a happy person who earned their happiness

must be something wrong with his medulla oblongata

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??? LOL
people like you should unironically be in prison. you're the elliot rodger incel type, just a pressure cooker waiting to explode
ok. peer-reviewed studies are still not trustworthy and scientism is still a religion
well, you're wrong. and you would be kind to burn people for questioning things back in the day since you're unable to consider the other position and get defensive about it.
>waste time giving a full response to a 500 word essay full of strawmen and bad faith arguments
nah haha. missed me with that gay shit. funny how he typed all that shit and i didnt even read it tho

>well, you're wrong.
well fuck me wouldn't be the first time. just ask my ex. I don't want to see the world burn I just want to learn/teach others.
>consider other words that confuse and arouse me and stuff
I'm not not considering your position I'm simply saying you are wrong. thats not being defensive its disagreeing with you

when does this pic happen

i dont get where arousal comes into it?

I was being facetious and I'm kinda drunk and randy by now you gonna put out or what?

ashen mist heart in the tseldora boss room

no sorry.....clearly, alcohol is bad for you. you should stop drinking

imagine being a useful idiot shit that defends the privileged

Thank god you don't need peer-reviewed prove we started as primordial sludge because the fossil record is ion-and-of-itself empirical evidence that we were far predated by organisms that exist today.

lol nice talking to you user. god bless and good night.

the nostrils are plainly visible on the front of its snout, doofus.

>fossil record
do you seriously believe these 2 words prove that we used to be soup?
you as well! =)

>calls other Elliot Rodger incel-type.
>has weird fetish for being burned at the stake while decrying alcohol and being a 9/11 truther.
user... Elliot hated alcohol and was a 9/11 truther.

Don't like these guys fuck you for posting these guys OP I don't like these guys fuck you.

he wants to hurt other people for having a better lot in life and refuses to try and fix anything in his life. he's probably going to rape a woman, he should be in an institution, preventative measure.

Going on good faith, it proves we were the first things here not by a long shot. It also proves that we had hominid ancestors that were not human and they can be traced down to lower mammalia.

how? its not like you touch them and see the history of humanity. the coal dating method or whatever, how do you know that's accurate whatsoever?

carbon dating

the determination of the age or date of organic matter from the relative proportions of the carbon isotopes carbon-12 and carbon-14 that it contains. The ratio between them changes as radioactive carbon-14 decays and is not replaced by exchange with the atmosphere

and its pretty accurate

I could explain it to you, but basically it's measuring radioactive carbon istopes. It is understood to be accurate by basically everyone in every field from physics to chemistry. This is how I'd explain it to a child:
Say you have a water bottle that's a little leaky, and water leaks out constantly. You actively keep the water level up by refilling it all the time.
If you died, no one will refill this water bottle, so the water level will begin to drop. If I know what level you've kept it at, and the rate at which the water level drops, I can tell when you've stopped refilling it, and when you died.
It's the same with carbon dating. Carbon-14 is an isotope of carbon that decays at a known rate. Your sample is considered to have a level of carbon-14 carbon-14 that is in equilibrium with its environment, and this equilibrium is not maintained when the organism dies. By knowing the equilibrium condition and the rate of Ca14 retrograde, you can work back to when the equilibrium ceased to be maintained.

but how do you know its accuraste after hundreds of thousands or millions of years? i would say you dont?

scientists have this down to a .... science as far as telling how fast the carbon decays. soooo testing how much carbon in the fossil they can tell how old the fossil is

but how do they or you know that? its circular reasoning to say "they know"

What a prick you are.

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>hurt other people
bringing them down to the level of unprivileged people is hurting them? guess you're admitting your whole world view is stupid.

if you know better than "them" and can prove "them" wrong then publish your findings and win a Nobel prize and shut "them" up forever about carbon dating or just keep posting on an anonymous mongolian horse weaving forum about how you know better

Damn man. Go easy on him.

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>larping as a commie on Yea Forums dot com
it was an honest question. if you immediately resort to challenging someone rather than just giving your best explanation, it's a tell that you're wrong and trying to cover up for that.
the fact is that nobody can tell for sure whether or not its possible to detect how old an item is if you go far back enough, there's no telling how variables change the older something is. obviously i won't be able to produce a word salad sprinkled with big sciencey words and thats probably what you're looking for.
i'm more into actual substance than fluff like that, though.
in other words, you don't know and probably neither do them. it's just more guess-work and theorizing...

How do you defend the most worthless people having the best lives? How do you defend an evil dumb person who goes to business school to learn how to be a parasitic shitstain having a better life than even something like a janitor who actually does something useful?

life is unfair, get over it... or dont and just kys. utopian ideologies will never become real no matter how much you sperg. you're no different than all the rapists and pillagers that go back thousands of years, you're just too much of a wimp to actually do anything about it lol.

You buncha nerds. If you want to argue about philosophy or the validity of religion go to Yea Forums. If you want to argue about geological findings go /his/ and /sci/.

Where are the video games?

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>life is unfair, get over it
The useful idiot's mantra

It doesn't need big eyes to see. Why evolve big ones?

Rather, those large fake ones are probably a lizard's best trick - extra, intimidating body mass that can be discarded in a pinch.

I never realized who drew that comic until just now.

huh.

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Yea Forums was never meant for video game discussion. Only shitposting.

>rapists and pillagers
not even this user but that is some nice false equivalency you got there

>challenging someone rather than explain
its already been explained how carbon dating works. either you refuse to accept it or don't understand what you're being told. if the former, deal with it, if the later git gud.

>its already been explained how carbon dating works.
nobody explained how they know that it accurately dates things that are supposedly hundreds of thousands of years old or millions... therefore i can only conclude that nobody actually knows this and they're just taking what "seems" like the best explanation, which is not scientific, merely a guess.

you keep calling me useful idiot as if you aren't the useful idiot advocating for government mandated mass theft. people like you will never be happy, it's the endless spiral of communism. all you'll achieve is mass murder (during which the leaders get filthy rich, btw lol). remember the 100+ million.

Humanity improved by wanting "better" wanting "more" has resulted in disaster

>people are idiots for accepting the reality that sometimes things don't always go your way

>half life
so the isotopes decay at a constant rate yes!?
this isotope in question being carbon-14
test for this carbon-14 to see how much there is and you have your answer its not that hard to understand or test for

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the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

DSII protag was the best by far

>Dude sit on the magic throne and start the cycle over lol
>"Fuck all yall with this dumb shit. I just want to cure this gross zombification going on"
>Fucks off away from this stupid plot nonsense
>Travels into dreams and memories to get magical artifacts
>Basically cures himself and peaces out

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but how does that prove that something hundreds of thousands of years (or millions) is actually that old? iirc there was a controversy involving carbon dating in that it was actually as accurate as it was first thought to be. this gives you no pause?

>Lives forever with his half dragon waifu and all his friends that he presumably saved from hollowing
Unambiguously the best ending for a Souls protag

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Both can be true.

is DaSII a nietzschean videogame?

Are buddhist monks dead then?

>give you no pause
isotopes decay. they have a half life. their argument is if its "as old" as they think it is. meaning does it decay as fast as they claim which given a -/+ 5 thousand years per carbon atom its still pretty fucking OLD

Am I crazy, or do the Angel cocoon whatevers look similar to the Abyss Locusts?
Like, they could be divergent paths on some kind of metamorphosis, or maybe one becomes the other?

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so the rates of decay were always the same? literally since the "beginning of time" which supposedly is trillions of years ago, or more? how would any human that ever existed know that? our recorded history only goes back a few thousand years, actual science even less than that...

>always the same
as far as we can tell and test/observe yes its pretty accurate. we have made atomic clocks more accurate than any other clocks possible based on this principle alone.

Don’t care for communism, but lucky people deserve to lose everything.

i think there is a disconnect here. so we have only been observing this half life for what, decades? 100 years? you're basically saying that we can know something seemingly unknowable based on a few decades of observation... it doesn't really jive.
>as far as we can tell
this is what i don't like about "established truths" in science, they always seem to lead to questions answered in this manner - "we think" - "likely know" - i'm believe we know a whole lot less than we think. i wish more people would be up front with the "we believe" part of what they say is objectively true
why?

Just because their lucky? Also what does communism have to do with anything involving the fact that sometimes life sucks ass?

>established truths
science isn't written in stone, its not a holy manuscript that must be obeyed. the laws of gravity or motion aren't actual laws if you can defy them or prove them wrong you aren't going to jail.

you should tell the science community that. people lose their jobs, income, status and honors for opposing the popular narrative. they guy who discovered the double helix was punished for making some fleeting remarks about human biodiversity... it's basically a religion at this point to most people

capitalism is literally destroying the planet

the locusts do say that they're linked to humans, and the lower half of angels resemble something from an insect rather than a human

Well, Shira does bitch at the Ashen One for his "shameless yearning", so I guess that concept carried over.

So what was the Want?

I'm not claiming to be a scientist or historian,I barely passed high school. I'm not going to argue that there isn't shitty things that happen in academia because there is(fuck those cunts) but at some point either test it yourself and show your findings or stop with the tinfoil tier assertions.

Yeah, DaS3 went hard on insect horror imagery
>Painted World flies
>Pilgrim Butterflies
>Mangrubs
>Locusts
>Angels
>those worm parasites outside the Cathedral of The Deep
>The Deep is apparently full of tiny biting insects
>Centipede women

Well, the whole theme of 3 is how festering and rotten things got because its been perpetuated forcefully instead of allowing the cycle to move.

Lol you're very passive aggressive to call it tin-foil hattery. you literally just said "test it yourself and show your findings or stop talking about it". why would i test it? i don't even believe that the results can be proven because there are unknown variables at play. to believe in the carbon dating method is to make some pretty serious leaps of faith.
i can't imagine being annoyed by someone asking the simple questions of "how" and "why".

>i can't imagine being annoyed by someone asking the simple questions of "how" and "why"
you've never been around small children

>humanity only improved thanks to competition and wanting more
>competition

Idiot1: Oh wow, let's kill each other to evolve faster.
Idiot2: Sure let's do it!

why do you want to know?

Since Gwyin trying to prolong the age of fire is what caused all the suffering, I would guess the message is that trying to cheat time and avoid change is pointless, you cant turn back the clock or change the past, and life will always go on, with or without you.

i have been and it's endearing. they just want to know stuff :)